"Junior developers can't think anymore..."

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  • @SaraGarcia_6123
    @SaraGarcia_6123 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

    This whole AI impact on our brains thing is a similar one to the introduction of cars and other vehicles. They help get us to places much quicker than by foot - yet the benefit of walking isn't simply to get us from one place to another, it makes us move our body, our heart pump and our blood flow and many other important bodily processes, that if we were to stop moving, eventually we would develop physical health problems, and perhaps the day we need to walk again we are no longer able to like we could before.

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SaraGarcia_6123 very well put

    • @subashbaskota9948
      @subashbaskota9948 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      indeed. Couldn't agree more

    • @sohamjain8599
      @sohamjain8599 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      right

    • @fernandoz6329
      @fernandoz6329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The example is similar but different, in the sense that it is a parallel at the physical-material level.
      In the past there was something similar, more striking and more subtle that is directly correlated to AI
      Around 1995-1996 Intellisense was created, a tool that facilitated access to object properties, which turned out to be a tremendously useful tool and was quickly adopted by every self-respecting language. This made developers rely on this tool, leaving behind any conventional editor.
      What was overlooked is that this tool lowered the effort needed to be able to program. It was no longer necessary to inspect objects, properties, methods, the tool did it for us.
      Jumping a little further, raise your hand if you did NOT use stack overflow to solve particular (and not so particular) programming problems.
      It was no longer necessary to solve a problem for us, it was enough to google it.
      AI is a new level of the same: making our lives 'easier'. What we have already figured out is that this has a cost on our quality of life that we need to control.
      Part of the video contains a good proposal, although I consider it incomplete. Internal values ​​and discipline are lacking; recognizing that 'making our lives easier' can end up harming us in the long term.
      Like the car example, it will be necessary to recognize that even if we have the best car in the world, we will have to walk (and very often) to maintain our quality of life.

    • @colto2312
      @colto2312 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i have to build so fast i don't even have time to look back

  • @vargonian
    @vargonian 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    If you use AI because you don’t want to learn, you’re gonna have a bad time. If you use it because you want to learn, it’s an amazingly powerful tool.

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's the crazy thing the technology is almost designed for people that don't use it.

    • @Kyouma.
      @Kyouma. 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @vargonian 100% agree. There's a lot of prejudice about AI because many people let it do their work or thinking. I predict that people who use AI to learn a skill will have an edge over people who lable it as "evil."

    • @YourComputer
      @YourComputer 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      In the field of programming, though, it's really only useful for autocomplete within certain contexts.

    • @vargonian
      @vargonian 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@YourComputer I actually find it extremely useful for software engineering even without it completing any code for me (which I disable anyway; I find those tools too intrusive). I regularly ask it for advice on how to approach modeling different systems and their relationships, which design patterns apply most appropriately to the situation, etc., and it often introduces me to context-specific concepts that I wasn't previously familiar with. For example, the other day, without going too far into specifics, I was trying to design an efficient pattern-matcher for words and it introduced me to a data structure that makes searches dramatically faster than what I was doing previously, as well as formalizing concepts in my mind like the "most-constraining-variable heuristic".
      If I were exploring an unfamiliar field like Big Data or something, it would be extremely valuable to learn from. I used it extensively a short while ago to learn Docker beyond the basics, for example. And the real power, in my opinion, is being able to ask it "why" instead of just "what" to really solidify your knowledge.

  • @sleepyinseattle4615
    @sleepyinseattle4615 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +175

    AI isn’t destroying Junior Dev jobs- it’s destroying the Junior devs directly 😂

    • @Ragnar452
      @Ragnar452 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Yes. It is a very dangerous tool if they are allowed to use it. Hell, it can even ruin a senior if he relies too much on it. Thinking is a skill that needs to be constantly trained. And AI is very very tempting. You can spend 4 hours thinking about something or asking AI and not thinking at all. It's a real danger.

    • @DavidDamian-s2y
      @DavidDamian-s2y 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Ragnar452 using the O1 GPT model or Claude, I almost always find that they cannot solve my problem so i end up having to think. After a certain level of complexity they turn useless

    • @frankfahrenheit9537
      @frankfahrenheit9537 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @DavidDamian-s2y Exactly. We should not be too worried about AI

    • @leoym1803
      @leoym1803 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As another commenter put it
      >Ok, so I am using sand that has been processed for 4-5 months in a remote factory in taiwan
      >using machines made in amsterdam
      >shipped 2-3 months via evergreen
      >stockpiled in some warehouse I never see
      >delivered to me via a truck that runs on dinosaur bones
      >in a box made of dead trees
      >installed in a motherboard that followed a completely different path, made of completely different materials, lithium for the 2032 battery from cancun, the gold for the circuits is mined from zambia, the fan is designed by some random in uruguay that had the credit stolen by him from someone in california that had them manufactured in china
      >running an OS made by some swedish or norse or danish guy idk
      >maintained by thousands of people
      >stolen and re-done by some fruitarian in Palo Alto that died of liver cancer
      >running on a mix of electricity from uranium mined in Ural Mountains and hydroelectricity from a dam, and geothermal powerplants and wind turbines
      >getting information to it over long glass wires that reflect light with almost 0 reflectivity loss
      >displaying it on an array of millions of pixels
      >and all I do is string together API calls that were written by people long dead before I was born
      BUT GOD DAMN IT I WILL NOT USE AI CUZ THAT'S ONE ABSTRACTION LAYER TOO MUCH

    • @zbyniew
      @zbyniew วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@leoym1803And now we become incapable of peeling back any of those abstraction layers, because AI has killed our ability to learn. Your comment is extremely asinine

  • @GuitarWithBrett
    @GuitarWithBrett 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    I think this isn’t an AI problem but a lack of learning to think logically and slow .. which is also a lack of reading books, articles, or documentation at all .. also not wanting to feel the discomfort of a hard problem. This effect is very real and something I’ve struggled with as a Sr dev and now manager with Jr and even Mid level devs.

    • @jamesclark2663
      @jamesclark2663 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I'm not a dev at all but I've often wondered if people pushing themselves to solve so many problems 'in real time' is a bad idea. And it probably doesn't help that online culture seems to give the impression that everyone is writing code the way they do in movies - moving their fingers nonstop as they talk out the problem in a matter of seconds and when they stop the program is done and works perfectly. I would think that slowing down and actually thinking through the whole process and then once you have a working model, verifying that with tests and line-by-line walk throughs would help in more ways than one. But like I said, I'm not a dev. So I might just be spitting BS at this point.

    • @GuitarWithBrett
      @GuitarWithBrett 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The biggest thing I try to do and the Leads when teaching how to think and analyze is to have them
      1. State the problem clearly
      2. Explain at least 2 solutions to the problem
      Many don’t know to do this and try to just solve stuff without even knowing the problem
      The next step is then to explain the tradeoffs of the problem, which is tricky and often requires more experienced coders to help .. but if they follow then they’re learning
      I think in part it’s the google it mindset , some also is a lack of critical thinking and analysis skills. A lot of coding also has become more abstracted so I notice also many developers don’t get the fundamentals ..’which would be like knowing calculus but not really understanding say the trig formulas used or having strong command over algebra.
      There does seem to be so many more distractions these days and say sitting down for a month and doing the basics seems a big ask. Even if there’s time given at work. This I think is a symptom of our smart phone distraction culture
      I was a literature major before switching to tech and noticed I couldn’t focus like I used to
      I realized it was mostly not reading paper books where I can’t get distracted ..so when I need to really learn new concepts even in tech I’ll often get a paper copy of a book so I can focus then I’ll go do hands on stuff
      So learning how to learn and finding a way to learn challenging concepts versus watching an easy to consume video is part of the challenge too

    • @jamesclark2663
      @jamesclark2663 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@GuitarWithBrett I get that. I find videos just make my eyes glaze over and I learn nothing. But I have loads of old programming books that I learned with. Something about actually sitting in a quiet room and reading actually made my brain work through the entire line of reasoning from the writer and I often found I was getting way ahead of the material as I started to grasp what possibilities were available to me.

    • @GuitarWithBrett
      @GuitarWithBrett 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ yeah, it’s hard … really you need the right next level step ideally and a real world problem .. for example I learned to setup background queues as the sr architect asked me to set that up.. I tried , got it wrong , then he explained why was wrong , then I redid .. then after that reading books on queues made total sense because I had the problem and also got stuck
      I’m also super selective on books I’ll read and I don’t read them straight through
      So right now I need to remember the graphql pipeline and how the middleware works .. I found a great book that explains that years ago for my language and graphql implementation.. so I’ll reread that part because we need to do stuff with it next week
      What are you wanting to learn ?

    • @jamesclark2663
      @jamesclark2663 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@GuitarWithBrett Sounds like you were lucky to have a Sr that could take the time to explain something to you. I gather from channels like this that everyone is kinda expected to just come out of the womb fully-formed as a full-stack developer or something these days. As for me, I've never worried about what I want to learn and instead focused on what I wanted to do. The learning seemed to come from that, I guess. Though it also leaves huge gaping holes of knowledge too.
      I'm currently making a video game that is deliberately going for an early 90s DOOM-like aesthetic. I want to utilize the flat, billboarded, sprites for characters but I don't have time to draw every frame for every character and I want to use more modern tools like motion retargetting and modular character outfits. This lead me down a rabbit hole of creating a system to pre-render 3D characters as sprites in real time. But it's too slow for what I want. I can only get a few hundred on screen at once and I'd liked to aim for 1k+ so I'm going to have to get creative about it. I have some ideas but time's been short lately and I don't think I'll have the opportunity to try them all so I'll have to take a guess at the one that most likely will succeed and go from there.

  • @brukmekonnen1541
    @brukmekonnen1541 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I'm a junior dev at the start of my career, and I'm really thankful for hearing this message. I will try my best not to kill my brain and career with AI. Thank you.

    • @UnexpectedBooks
      @UnexpectedBooks วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Excellent! Aside from improving your job security, that perspective will open doors to more interesting opportunities. You’ll develop the reputation of an out-of-the-box thinker, rather than someone waiting to be told what to do next.

    • @jeffsteyn7174
      @jeffsteyn7174 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Do not listen to this guy.
      Learn how to use the tools to speed up your coding. Otherwise you will be replaced by the people who know how to use the tools for coding. Just like this guy will be. Telling people not to use ai is like telling people not to use prebuilt libraries because you should build your own because you wont understand the underlying low level code.
      Your worth as a developer is not going to be your ability to write code as it is today it's going to be your ability to guide the ai.
      You going need to break down the problem into smaller parts, keep the ai focused on the issue because it has this tendency to do to much in one go.
      Don't listen to this guy he is going to lead you down the wrong path.
      In fact focus on how to build easy to use apps. Easy to use for your users, not you or another coder. And learn how to figure out what the core issue a user needs solved and give them that in app form.

    • @mr.k8660
      @mr.k8660 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jeffsteyn7174 True . At the end of the day they prefer people who can ship code faster

    • @JoeHacobian
      @JoeHacobian 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not only will you be replaced by people who are using the new tools it is imperative to understand the new food chain.
      At the bottom, you have the consumers they are the ones that use large language, models, and pre-artificial general intelligence.
      Then you move one level up and you understand there are people using the available open source models, and the API based proprietary ones to build custom Integration solutions. You could call these people the AI integrators.
      From there, it gets more complex the higher end of the AI integrators are using agent architectures and coming up with novel solutions for limits to context as well as relevancy search using vector databases.
      Also, at the stratified higher end of the AI integration echelons, you will begin to see developers, fine-tuning models that is to say augmenting the training of an existing model with additional training data to steer that model towards particular specialized domains.
      Finally, at the very top of the AI food chain are the machine learning researchers that are implementing as well as writing scientific papers in the cutting edge of model architecture and development.
      If you want to remain relevant, your goal as a software engineer is to recognize this food chain and begin moving up that food chain as fast as possible.
      If you remain a consumer of the cognitive service of these AI solutions, then you are on the road to replacement.

    • @robertcowher
      @robertcowher 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@jeffsteyn7174 I'm going to add my two cents as an IT manager. My most productive people are the ones who embrace AI, but have done so AFTER learning the basics, and understanding the technology they're working with. They're the people who could build the solution anyway, but can build it faster with AI. Someone who starts out with AI tools isn't going to have the grounding to know when the AI is wrong, or fix the problems it creates. Also, people should absolutely implement low level libraries from scratch as part of their learning journey. Maybe you don't use your home-grown version in production, but it's very limiting to be completely reliant on high-level tools for everything all the time.

  • @H8KU
    @H8KU 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    No, teachers were 100% right about calculators. It's not about being able to do calculations, it's about flexing your brain.

    • @TheNefastor
      @TheNefastor วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Also, you need to know math to use a calculator, not the opposite.

  • @zshn
    @zshn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    Recently during a debugging session with a junior dev (us trying to reproduce a bug), I asked them to add another item to an existing array list; and they started typing out a comment for copilot to do it. To 'effin add an item to a simple array list! I was like c'mon! Please don't do this.

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@zshn 😳

    • @mike5629
      @mike5629 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just to clear , use the push method to achieve this ? @zshn

    • @AllHandsOnEveryThing
      @AllHandsOnEveryThing 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @hopeseekr
      @hopeseekr วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I've never met a junior who could do better than ChatGPT. It will lead to a huge shortage of senior devs. Once AI has cannibalized all code and can't get better, we seniors in our 30s and 40s and 50s will be in super demand in the 2030s. Watch.

    • @malaysiaterdedah3934
      @malaysiaterdedah3934 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Soon they wont just destroy junior devs. They will destroy any senior dev too. Now, a person who can't code for nuts, will be able to code just as well as a coder who spent 20 years of his life learning. It's amazing. What a perfect opportunity to get ahead of the curve.

  • @TH3BL4CKH4WK
    @TH3BL4CKH4WK 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Maybe the issue is that the devices we use are constantly interrupting us and leverage necessity to do it? A parent gives their kid a phone to keep in contact or so they aren't socially isolated and then every business in the world is trying to interrupt their thought processes in the hopes making a little money. Hard to learn how to complete a thought if the thoughts are never allowed to complete. I notice many of you are real quick to blame the younger generation for systems created by older generations that exploit younger minds. Almost as if you didn't complete the thought...

  • @dhritiman2345
    @dhritiman2345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    im not employed yet but i found myself in a similar situation, so i bought a thinkpad installed arch, learned vim and started using books and docs instead of videos and chatgpt, it's been hard but i'm getting better slowly

    • @Kyouma.
      @Kyouma. 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Curious question: Learning something with your approach in 5 years or learning the same thing in 2 years by including gtp in the learning process. Which approach is more streamlined and effective?

    • @dhritiman2345
      @dhritiman2345 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Kyouma. well you'll pick up speed gradually which will decrease the time it takes to get to a certain point, and later you can utilise both in a strategic way like after you have your basics strong, that will increase the speed of learning by a lot. and by any means im not an expert im just trying to improve myself in a way i think will make me better. i just want to fall back in love with computers man

  • @frogery
    @frogery 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    we have a lost generation of college grads, students who were able to cheat their way through school using AI before schools could get it under control.

    • @bullpup1337
      @bullpup1337 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      A generation? Bro its been like 4 years.

    • @frogery
      @frogery วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bullpup1337 generation definition 1.c on Merriam-Webster: a group of individuals having contemporaneously a status (such as that of students in a school) which each one holds only for a limited period

  • @YTMichaelFromTexas
    @YTMichaelFromTexas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Multiple times this year, I've had Junior Devs come to me, expecting that "we have documentation for how to fix/resolve everything." If we had that, why wouldn't we have already fixed those things??
    I don't think this is just an AI problem. I believe you touched on "asking Google and getting an answer." I think that was the start of "not having to think as much." I fear AI is just accelerating that. :(

    • @danielgilleland8611
      @danielgilleland8611 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      That response of junior devs is also a by-product of how we teach them. I know. I teach computer programming at the post-secondary level. We've been in a building crisis over quality control in our teaching for decades now, and AI has just made it worse. But it's hard to bring about change in educational institutes (it often moves at the speed of tenure). I remember trying to bring in unit testing 20 years ago, and no-one wanted us to have it in our program (mostly because no-one else had tried it, used it, or understood it).

    • @razum1448
      @razum1448 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@danielgilleland8611 Totally agree. Schools teach you to give an already known answer. What it doesn't teach is, that your answers are the most valuable, when nobody knows it yet.

  • @tamathacampbell4985
    @tamathacampbell4985 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Don't entirely trust AI for basic facts, either. Google-searches seem to like to have an AI answer at the beginning. Both the ones I read recently were factually wrong. (One was about whether a particular plant is native to a certain part of North America, and the other was about sources of vitamin B-12 in foods. So, they weren't difficult, complicated topics.)

  • @cdarklock
    @cdarklock 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    Back in the 1960s we had a fairly serious problem with university students using Cliffs Notes for everything instead of reading the books. At the same time, there was a movement in primary schools to teach "new maths" and give students a stronger footing on which to build a knowledge of calculus and number theory.
    When the professors banged on the table and said "read the whole book, it is important" the students laughed and asked why they should bother. And while the primary school students didn't know enough to protest the new maths being taught in schools, their parents raised eight shades of hell about the homework being too difficult.
    Sixty years later, we have the exact same problem: people are weak and stupid. They LIKE being weak and stupid, and they will fight you to REMAIN weak and stupid. The number of people willing to be strong and smart just keeps going down, because why should they? Weak, stupid people are doing JUST FINE in the modern world.
    Nothing has actually changed with the invention of generative algorithms, or with the ubiquitous awareness and availability of the garbage-farting machine people are using to do more and more of their work - because they are too weak to do better themselves, and too stupid to know it's garbage. People have always been like this.

    • @technolus5742
      @technolus5742 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      They are doing better than fine, they are the president now.

    • @cdarklock
      @cdarklock 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@technolus5742 And one of them is the richest man in the world

    • @CSPlayerDamon
      @CSPlayerDamon 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amazing comment!

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cdarklock Funny enough it had takne some time for those from opposite side of asile to recognize, that Musk is no genius.

    • @mikali1704
      @mikali1704 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What is the benefit of tryharding?

  • @lalitsharma3137
    @lalitsharma3137 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I'm a fresher from India. And I'm not the one to read. And the problem IS the Internet and our cellphones. I've still manged learn everything except building my own projects because I'm deeply interested in ML. The main issue with my generation is the lack of time and time management due to our addiction of our smartphones. I find myself scrolling garbage on Instagram and watching geopolitics on TH-cam. All because sometimes doing stressful work seems like an active assault on my stressed brain. We also don't have mentors with time and patience to teach us the ropes. Because they themselves are addicted to smartphones. Now all we can do is make AI our mentor. Make it teach us how to do things. Because our own peers are lacking leadership and patience.

  • @dissolvedgirl_za
    @dissolvedgirl_za 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I had a junior dev who didn't know what a bookmark in a browser was. Couldn't get her to understand a project's directory structure as well. She installed the same project in itself multiple times and thus ran out of disk space on her laptop. It hurt so much. I asked my boss to release me from having this person in my team.

    • @TabletMini
      @TabletMini 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Maybe you should have trained her in those missing steps. 😊

    • @frankfahrenheit9537
      @frankfahrenheit9537 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      How can you not know what a bookmark is?
      Anyway, how could this person make it through college?

    • @Stephanthecuteblondie2567
      @Stephanthecuteblondie2567 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @TabletMini If only it was this easy

  • @steyr190
    @steyr190 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In the 80s we wrote small cheat sheets to fit on pens and rulers only to end up not needing them at all. The process of processing the information and producing the condensed knowledge was all we needed to learn it properly.

  • @MisteryBio
    @MisteryBio 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Curiosly, studying with AI has somehow taught me to catch BS in arguments. When corrected it just says like "oh you are right that is not actually correct". Its really like having a studying mate, you work with it but dont make it think for you.

  • @BinaryMaestro1
    @BinaryMaestro1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    So relatable although as a student it kind of makes me sad as I see my classmates use AI for literally anything: essay writing or even simple tasks given by the teacher. I found this video helpful, telling me what I should avoid.

  • @D.von.N
    @D.von.N วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am old school. Was at the airport, flight delayed. I had a phone with internet access in my pocket, but I pulled out my years old walkie man, with tons of music on a micro sd card and started playing 20yo music into my ears. I even danced a bit, lost in the present moment. Nice balance ahead of hours of sitting afterwards. AI helped me to take on a journey with Linux, answering my many questions and troubleshooting, but I don't see doing it all for me, like Windows and Microsoft are promoting it to us. That's why I am running away from this AI organised life. I want to keep control over my devices, not being navigated around by someone's algorithms like a vegetable. I am also back to reading books and watching movies I own. No streaming, no ads.

  • @gordonfreimann
    @gordonfreimann 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    as a senior dev, I don’t use ai in my editor at all. I used to but realized that it made me lazy so i stopped using it. I just use chatgpt occasionally to search a piece of information or a bootstrap code example or something. Thats all

    • @trentirvin2008
      @trentirvin2008 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m about to finish an app I’ve been making since April, with a few collaborators. And that’s what i find AI to be really useful for. It helps me understand documentation. at this point i rarely need any explanations after building up a vocabulary to better understand documentation

    • @hopeseekr
      @hopeseekr วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here. ChatGPT is the most epic tutor I've ever had, and really teh only one. But I do all of the coding.

    • @antiquechrono
      @antiquechrono 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Seniors need to be very wary of relying on ai as well. I have experienced brain rot from using it and had to force myself to stop. One of the smartest people I know also regressed back to the point where he literally can't program without it. Luckily this seems like it's reversible with effort.

  • @dovh49
    @dovh49 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I find getting enough sleep and exercise helps with my cognitive ability and my desire to pick up a book.
    But, yes, the internet in general is really addictive and learning to have quiet time is extremely important.

  • @JennHayden
    @JennHayden 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    It's not a thinking issue, in my opinion. It is learned helplessness. They don't think because they don't have to.

    • @taufiqurrahmansagafkelrey2833
      @taufiqurrahmansagafkelrey2833 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      before one can think, one must can read. There r no excusses to not read.

    • @thinkIndependent2024
      @thinkIndependent2024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Domino !!! Effect!!! there little reward for being knowledgeable.... IN AMERICA TODAY.
      My grandparents taught me how to farm but also purchased the Tandy TRS-80 later I learned Programming and Electronics

    • @crypticsailor
      @crypticsailor 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They have to and they don't from my experience. It's the tik tok brain melt.

    • @mxz2024
      @mxz2024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      its because chatgpt resolves 50% of tasks

    • @TAiCkIne-TOrESIve
      @TAiCkIne-TOrESIve 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@crypticsailorThroughout history, most people simply can't think. We think too highly of people. It's the same before and after TikTok. If older programmers could think, they would follow Dijkstra's path to not create so many bugs for the coming generation to fix.

  • @themayhemera3046
    @themayhemera3046 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you for the awesome video. As a "Junior Dev" I've been getting this nagging feeling that I have been over reliant on AI and your thoughts and the comments on the video really encapsulate how I feel. Im going to try and ensure i use AI as a tool when needed but also actively solve problems and reflect on new things i learn by reading.

    • @jeffsteyn7174
      @jeffsteyn7174 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you don't learn the tools you will be left behind. I'm a lead dev and I'm writing code in days that used to take me 3 weeks+
      Don't listen to this guy or anyone telling you the opposite.
      Take your time to learn how to use the tools. It's immensely important.

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    TH-cam addiction did that to me long time ago

  • @XxLuvverofMusicxX
    @XxLuvverofMusicxX วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The thing is though that most companies are fully embracing AI and want their workforce to use it as much as possible. Cynically thinking I believe this is so that in the future they can have less staff, so less direct costs.

  • @Lattey
    @Lattey 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The forgetting words while speaking or writing is so true. I also feel like I'm getting dummer. I never though it's because of ChatGPT but after watching this video and thinking about it, I think it's true.
    I wonder how to get over it and become what I was before. Everytime I speak I've to ask my friends what is that words.

  • @mwwhited
    @mwwhited วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Here we were worried about 1984 becoming true when the real thing to be worried about was Idiocracy.

  • @Pierre-zh3ed
    @Pierre-zh3ed 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Recently I stepped back from using IDE and sophisticated tools to a bare-bone text interface. Confort is great but too much of it kills you. It is quite similar to sport: if you want to evolve, you need to know your limits to better challenge them.

    • @janekschleicher9661
      @janekschleicher9661 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also, it protects you from being helpless, once the IDE screws you or lacks a feature, or IDE is not available (like some problem on a remote computer). I'm used to get called in these situations, and it's really shocking to see that *devs* might not know anymore how to open a terminal and use it, or even not know how a computer is doing the work in the end, or not know how to use curl, the plain debugger, ...
      I had this shock on myself long time ago, when I worked complety from inside an IDE, but did not even know how to start the program without clicking the run button inside the IDE, when I got the task to run the program on the server. For me, this was such a shameful experience, that from there I always started to do anything from the rudimentary level and upgrade later to use more powerful tools when I know how to do it without them. Helps me all of the time, and I'm even more efficient (yes: tools are nice, but limited and slow), as I can always switch to the most appropriate way, and I never get stuck, because I have no idea what the tool really does under the hood.

  • @Exhithronous-y1n
    @Exhithronous-y1n 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    To be fair, I only use Ai to answer questions to thoughts I cannot answer myself (simply because I don't know). It's a game changer. But totally relying on Ai would be learning nothing. But I know that's not what humanity does, we're always looking for efficiency. We both know where consumerism is going, endless, mindless consumption, that's going to be the world soon. Where I in my maths class today, I could just photograph the whiteboard and it can answer it for me.

    • @pythonxz
      @pythonxz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @Exhithronous-y1n The endless pursuit of efficiency is killing the willingness to engage in anything at a deeper level.

  • @BaronBlud
    @BaronBlud 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    All the juniors can do is LeetCode problems since that's how they got through the tech interview. Unfortunately, LeetCode has nothing in common with real world software development.

    • @TheMrblaster2012
      @TheMrblaster2012 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In this case, is it better to focus on projects rather than coding exercises? Or both but more focused on the former?

    • @BaronBlud
      @BaronBlud 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheMrblaster2012 Hand them a print out of a large stored procedure and ask them what it does and if they see any issues. Alternately hand them the code for a API endpoint that works correctly most of the time but occasionally throws a stack trace. Ask them how they would address this. These are real world problems they will see every day.

    • @TheMrblaster2012
      @TheMrblaster2012 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@BaronBlud thanks

  • @utm05tt
    @utm05tt 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The story of a 22 year old Stanford graduate forgetting simple words because they're so used to having chatgpt complete their thoughts is so farcical that my take away here is that anyone will post anything sensational for the clicks.

  • @youshouldntdothis5747
    @youshouldntdothis5747 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a junior dev i use ai like a much faster and straight to point browser to solve a problem. If i dont understand the answer. I tell him to explain it more till i understand. I dont just copy paste and move on.

  • @sealsharp
    @sealsharp วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As an employee you get paid your worth. If you can do nothing without the chat bot, your value is "anyone willing to tell the chat bot to do it".
    Well, that doesn't sound well payed.

  • @trollingdirty8910
    @trollingdirty8910 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As an old timer, starting in a time when RTFM was the default response, not even google. Young people have no idea how things work and cannot think outside of the box.

  • @EduardKaresli
    @EduardKaresli วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The internet is destroying my ability to read books.
    Early in my younger days I used to read a book every couple of days.
    Now I struggle to read anything that's not technical, and even that comes through a display of some sort, be it my PC, laptop, tablet or the damn phone (which very negatively impacted my eyes).
    I was lucky to get my degree in math before the internet took complete control of life.
    I wonder how the new generation is going to be as skillfull as our generation managed to become.
    Reading books is essential to maintaining a thinking society.

  • @fuzonzord9301
    @fuzonzord9301 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How is it even possible with requirements to get a junior dev position being so high? It sounds like AI basically allowed a bunch of people who have no talent and would have zero chances to get a job in the field before to jump through the hoops.

  • @naraa6775
    @naraa6775 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As someone that's been learning software development for a year and a half for in hopes of becoming a junior dev, I've progressively started relying on chatgpt to summarize manuals or give me easy to understand explanations of concepts. It sure did help a lot with progressing through projects! But I've noticed it's detrimental to actual problem-solving for more complex problems. In scenarios where you can't use chatgpt, I'd feel stumped. I caught on to this big issue and started taking a step back to read more and think more without chatgpt. I agree with the video wholeheartedly and it has helped me bring out my issue with chatgpt into spotlight 🙏. Dont use chatgpt as an easy shortcut for learning, take the time to learn concepts to heart.

    • @TheMrblaster2012
      @TheMrblaster2012 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been working on a project lately and I wonder if I've been using AI effectively or not when it comes to learning and growth. I mean I have hardly used any code Ai has provided me other than a refactor. As for solving problems I have used it to walk me through a problem or at least brainstorming, but in the end I have to think and decide if the suggestions and walkthrough fit the bill or I have to think of a difference approach to solve a problem. It's a dilemma

  • @MiniBeas
    @MiniBeas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think part of the problem is that people are just getting the answer without trying to process how to get to that answer. One of the aspects that I find very fascinating about AI is being able to have an ongoing dialogue back and forth on various given subjects. It's not just a transactional response. It's an in-depth conversation where I'm trying to better understand the root of the problem and I think that's really what we need to do. Ai and chat GPT are more than just a Google search. It's literally like having a person you can discuss ideas with and it's a missed opportunity when Debs are just asking for the code snippet without actually understanding the logic behind the code snippet.

  • @malachiwhite5955
    @malachiwhite5955 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just graduated and I been working as a junior dev in my first rotation for 6 months. I personally have struggled with finding that balance with thinking and when to use chat gpt. For me personally it’s kind of a since of paranoia of am I getting my work done fast enough and is good with all these tech layoffs happening. I’m not trying to have excuses but trying to find the line.

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@malachiwhite5955 this is a very honest assessment about the struggle.

  • @ElonTusk..
    @ElonTusk.. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very right. I often struggle reviewing Jr Dev code. They must not understand how anything works anymore. The fallacy of AI won't replace you; people using AI will get many.

  • @olafbaeyens8955
    @olafbaeyens8955 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is draining junior devs because we force them to do it the old ways.
    But the world changed, AI is here, the old ways are becoming obsolete.

  • @whatmusiciwant
    @whatmusiciwant วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Has nothing to do with AI, it's been a degenerative process in public schools for many a year. AI has helped me overcome and understand, it's an amazing tool in many respects. Two sides to every coin. For me, AI is like a senior developer that I can have on hand any time I want, to teach me and help me understand concepts. Love it. In fact, it helped me today spin up two VM's, run a client in one on windows, server 2022 on the other, set up a domain using active directory, make some GPO's and link those to an OU. Took me 6hrs and I was able to learn so much more about Active Directory than if I had to stumble around like some boomer scared of AI.

    • @Kyouma.
      @Kyouma. 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The prejudice about AI is insane. And mostly because creatives and artists demonize it. They're actually in favor of taking a decade to learn a skill the old way instead of learning it in half the time through AI assistance. Why? Because the latter feels unfair to them

    • @whatmusiciwant
      @whatmusiciwant 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Kyouma. Precisely. You can look back to so many times in history an invention caused stir and outrage, the ones who succeeded? The ones who learned it and adopted it. Exactly what I will do with AI, I will leverage my non-fear and ability to interact with AI to make more money than developers scared to death of it.

  • @truthontech
    @truthontech 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What a brilliant message,Thanks Travis Media. After months of AI anxiety it finally occurred to me that AI should be used as an assistant to help humans learn better. Those who stop learning are doomed. This is really a very important topic. In fact TH-cam is also contributing to the ills as most people dont do research anymone.

    • @apricotmadness4850
      @apricotmadness4850 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you feel anxious over chatbots?

  • @gronkhfp
    @gronkhfp 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think Part of the Problem is that people started taking this career although they don’t enjoy thinking and solving problems. Many people just took this path to earn big money, not knowing that you have to put in a lot of time and ellbow grease into learning

  • @dadecky5276
    @dadecky5276 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    wow how ironically relatable this is is to me, in this age my attention span is shrinking so much that i literally can't do anything if its haven't nearing the due date

  • @jordansprojects
    @jordansprojects วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What stinks too as a junior is that when I do make something or use new skills by myself, I’ll occasionally get asked “this is good- did you ask chatgpt to do this?” . It was likely because I had consistent descriptive comments to track what I was doing- but still

  • @davehilling3944
    @davehilling3944 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It not just devs, it all IT roles. Most of our new employees are terrible at basic networking, simple concepts in both windows and linux and just about everything else. Even some of our "mid" level guys cannot seem to fix anything without help or weeks of back and forth (I work remotely) in the end one of our team members almost always has to seem to travel to find a simple mistake that takes hours at worst then discovers 10 other things they didn't even know were broke then work on fixing those.

    • @redhotbits
      @redhotbits 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      why IT? how about doctors, lawyers, teachers?

  • @matt_milack
    @matt_milack 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    December 29th 2024:
    Junior developers can't think anymore...
    means:
    December 29th 2034:
    Senior developers can't think anymore...

    • @engineeringmadeasy
      @engineeringmadeasy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      🤣

    • @crypticsailor
      @crypticsailor 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      *December 29th 2025

    • @Mr-Sinister
      @Mr-Sinister 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mission report: December 16th, 1991.

    • @pythonxz
      @pythonxz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If my last job was any indication, senior developers already have. It's just an extension of all the clean code nonsense.

    • @crypticsailor
      @crypticsailor 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@pythonxz yes everyone at my job right now is a tech lead or senior in the system (/somehow), yet I am shoveling preventable garbage daily -- I am a senior dev as well if going by title.

  • @Sergio_Loureiro
    @Sergio_Loureiro วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the exact reason why I avoid the use of GPS when I can. Jim Kwik named this phenomenon very well as digital dementia, even before the massive popularity of AI nowadays.

  • @frogery
    @frogery 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    just like we have to intentionally go to the gym or go running to give our bodies what machinery took from us, we'll have to intentionally give our brains challenging problems to keep it healthy and active in a world of AI. and just like there are physically fit and unfit people today, we're going to have mentally fit and unfit people who experience life very differently from one another.

  • @jonathanjohnson2785
    @jonathanjohnson2785 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks Travis 👍 Great insights covered here. I feel sorry for little kids who grow up with these AIs. Too easy for them to outsource every challenge 😢

  • @DouhaveaBugatti
    @DouhaveaBugatti 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can i use it to get reallife analogies to understand react better or compare it with python.
    You know i learned basic python that way and can solve simple problems

    • @oliviatheunknown
      @oliviatheunknown วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd say that's a pretty good use for it. I'm just beginning in development, but personally I try to code things myself when doing personal projects, so when I do use AI in the future, I can understand WHY ChatGPT's code works, so I can integrate and adjust it for my use case

  • @pedgarcia
    @pedgarcia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video should be played at any new hire onboard presentation in any company. You managed to tackle all the points I’ve seen lately, but not only for young developers. You advices are applicable to any person of any age that is too dependent on social media or AI tools. You nailed it.

  • @DS-kr3lm
    @DS-kr3lm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In my case it is not like that. I use the documentation, I understand the framework and the theory. Even what steps I have to take. And I get to do what I have to do. The problem is that I barely have to write code. At most I correct it. It's weird, because I understand it but I can't start writing it. It's a problem of foundations.In my case, they also completely changed my stack...So I think it's more than normal that it happened like this, although of course it shouldn't be like this, in fact I suffer because of it, because I know that's not how things should be.

  • @Dynamite3783
    @Dynamite3783 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's a self fulfilling disaster. You outsource your cognitive deep thinking and reasoning thus you become weaker in these and fall behind the AI .then people will say I told you so AI is better

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Dynamite3783 that sums it up

  • @modaesth
    @modaesth 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great advice, amazing video! Whats even more amazing is this message isnt just for devs, its for every human being the this modern era

  • @EVanDoren
    @EVanDoren 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    11:00 I don't think LLMs can summarize texts. I tried it, and it was just a common blah-blah on the article's topic. The facts from the article weren't there. It makes sense, of course, LLMs use the training data to answer.

  • @rakidawood
    @rakidawood วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a UI UX designer and a no code developer, I am aware of this issue. So what I do is, I never ask AI to ideate when it comes to problem solving, I do it by researching and reading. I do use AI to help me with coding and stuff because I dont know how to code but at the end of the code I ask them to explain what the code is which is important because it helps me level up my knowledge.

  • @jurgspiess2328
    @jurgspiess2328 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent advise. It mirrors my experience. I think there is a place for AI as a tool. But we should never ever loose the ability to think things through and form our own opinions. Also as a senior dev with 30+ years of experience I see the great value of seeing the bigger picture and creating real value by questioning and shaping feature and design decisions.

  • @jeffcauhape6880
    @jeffcauhape6880 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Well said, but this is a bigger issue than just software development. I'm going to share this as best I can.

    • @crypticsailor
      @crypticsailor 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      has been happening increasingly but especially during COVID lockdowns.

  • @vasttimes
    @vasttimes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good points and observations! Your content doesn't disappoint, and I'm glad I found your channel.

  • @DaniloWaffis
    @DaniloWaffis 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am a junior dev, and I have to say that AI makes you lazier, I remember yesterday I was rewriting an expressjs API, I asked chatgpt if it was well written, and I copied and pasted the improvements he suggested, before, I would have gone to stackoverflow, now copilot can help me, and copilot from your code is just incredible, sometimes just lazy to parse, or loop over an object, copilot does it, I'm scared, I'm really scared, I ask myself am I doing well, I am always impressed by those who solve these problems and who come forward with the AI ​​market, am I a developer or a copy and paste, what to do, I also have the feeling that I am asked to master too many technologies, suddenly, you see, you are not yet sufficiently prepared in js, you are asked for reactjs, once reactjs, angular, then you haven't even finished with expressjs, nestjs comes out, companies ask you to master all that, it scares me, in fact I am self-taught, I must say that having a senior on your side to learn would be cool, but I can't afford it.

  • @joegaffney8006
    @joegaffney8006 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Think also initiative seems to be lacking and no desire to meet deadlines. But with a strong and capable tech stack knowledge.
    Sometimes just blindly following a ticket. Knowing that there will likely be a followup

  • @surajmsd
    @surajmsd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    was recommended this video for a week straight fine ill watch it

  • @SloMoMonday
    @SloMoMonday 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Its not just the junior developers changing attitude that worrying. It seems to be having impact across the board. I deploy and customize an off-the-shelf version of our software.
    We've been pestering a client for their work permitting process to configure it in the work order module. Its a major dependcy, a safety critical procedure and turns out it has been enforced manually at each site but through very different methods.
    Just before Christmas, the clients PM sends an LLM written response to "How do i make a work permitting procedure?" within an LLM drafted email that trys to make it our fault that the project is behind.
    People have lost jobs by trying to hide that copy/paste straight off stack overflow or reference docs. Why the hell are they encouraging LLM use when it amounts to the same thing? Yes, we're working to an outcome, but the way we get there is just as important.

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I feel the frustration

  • @AlexbongoKurban
    @AlexbongoKurban 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I found this only with US H1Bs or with the ones that are now outsourced. You need to provide them with all the steps to complete the task and if I have to do this .. I will better do it by myself

  • @maxlee3838
    @maxlee3838 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Writing is needed, but even just taking time away from devices in general and taking the opportunity to become bored and thinking about things. Giving the mind space to think is probably a prerequisite for writing.

  • @Eudemoni_
    @Eudemoni_ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you may dislike my comment but yea I think sadly that humanity is not an end in itself. We are in to create something way, way, way smarter than us all combined. And when I do see how the human society works, how do we treat each other and living species, I dont see why AI would trait us right and help us, I dont see that happening in the end.

  • @dennisribeiro5262
    @dennisribeiro5262 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Normally I use IA like this. "There is this design decision that I have to make what are the possible approaches and what can be the disadvantages" or "Is it recommended to do it like this with these technologies or it's better to use something else?". I commonly do a "How to do it" and adapt the code given, never a copy and paste.

  • @parkerbradley2457
    @parkerbradley2457 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's a cultural problem in how the culture educates children and in how we introduce kids to various technologies. Just based on my own experiences and observations over 50+ years (and conversations with other parents and teachers), proper brain and social development seems to require strongly restricting/curating use of certain tech during a child's first 16 years and possibly completely avoiding certain tech during the first 4 to 6 years of a child's development.

  • @engineeringmadeasy
    @engineeringmadeasy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi, I was thinking to do CS50. Should I consider doing it? Have you come across people who did it and how was their experience? Thanks

    • @engineeringmadeasy
      @engineeringmadeasy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@whydoIneedAchannel2024 I really appreciate your reply. Thanks :)

  • @zevspitz8925
    @zevspitz8925 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    6:00 Something's a little off with a video discussing decreased attention spans (in part) interrupting itself with a minute-long ad spot. I understand the necessity, but still.
    10:42 Having ChatGPT summarize an article for me is a non-starter; it deprives me of the intimate understanding of the author and their views I can get by reading and processing the whole thing.

  • @ernestomotta5178
    @ernestomotta5178 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of my hobbies is to read books on my phone, to practice this foreign language (English, of course)
    It was really hard to get the transition from real books to e-books on a screen, it took months, but once I managed to do it, it became a breeze and a habit of mine :)

  • @rickhoro
    @rickhoro 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just forwarded this to a bunch of people. Well said and on target.

  • @overflow7276
    @overflow7276 51 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I could not agree more! The thing is, the social AI-Transformation only gets worse, as the books and articles that are actually valuable and meaningful get burried under an ever growing pile of AI-generated slop! The internet is dying! And without it, our juniors will have it even harder, but perhaps also easier in a different way to fight their AI addiction.

  • @Raffaele0001
    @Raffaele0001 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i want the ia to do stuffs i already know on my pc to not do it by myself but when i ask to do it and ai say "do it by yourself and the explaination on how to do" -.-, it is useless because limits it received not because performances and quality on what the ai do...

  • @전유현-l7x
    @전유현-l7x วันที่ผ่านมา

    relevant points and info. hope I utilize it

  • @DeepStreamBits
    @DeepStreamBits 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    With regard to creating categories for AI you also have to understand what is the dataset that is being trained on. Want a javascript/python question answered? Sure. Want a Angular/Django question answered? Maybe. Want a ApexCharts/Seaborn question answered? Probably not.

  • @wellingtonmusicas3144
    @wellingtonmusicas3144 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was an excellent and a mind blowing video. Sometimes we dragged ourselves by the common sense thought of being knowledgeable without having the merit of thinking. I found myself falling into the abyss of rely on too much on AI tools that promises act and think for me. I'm happy to watch a video that helped me to open my eyes and improve and work on myself rather than let the new AI assist doing it for me. Travis you are an amazing and inspired professional. Best of all and happy new year.

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Covid infections affected our brains too. That really is the issue as to why cognition has being impaired en masse

  • @jm.101
    @jm.101 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As an aspiring junior developer, I appreciate the wisdom in this video as it articulates a lot of my concerns. I honestly resent AI because now I have to do extra work to figure out how to not let my brain atrophy while also not falling behind from not using it.

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls วันที่ผ่านมา

    The pace of everything has increased so fast, we’re using so many more heuristics and short cuts to get the main points out.

  • @danyst-laurent2093
    @danyst-laurent2093 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Here is I think, the natural cycle; Learn, understand, practice, rince and repeat. The phenomenon of monkey sees monkey does is not new, how many of us have seen juniors cutting and pasting code without really understanding what the outcome would be for processes and performance ? Unfortunately with AI and blind trust these side effects can compound to technical and intellectual bankruptcy.

  • @darrendrapkin4508
    @darrendrapkin4508 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am glad that I still keep a diary. It is a flat file in a plain text editor, for which I wrote a simple programme that date stamps the file at its end and scrolls to the bottom of it ready for today's entry. Go on, show me a new programmer who can do that. Then show me the one that can keep using that programme for more than 5 years.

  • @ignacionr
    @ignacionr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh didn't get much of it, can you summarize it? :)))

  • @made-simple
    @made-simple 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great Take on Adapting to Age of AI !

  • @robindeboer7568
    @robindeboer7568 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I dont use AI that much.
    But I noticed a few weeks ago myself asking AI for something that I would have looked up in the docs previously.
    Sounds fine, right? Not necessarily a problem, the AI was faster to ask
    Well sure, it WOULD have been fine if the answer the AI gave was correct and as good as the one in the docs....
    Not to mention, the docs has the answer for the next question I was going to ask right below it...
    I make an effort to try to use the docs first these days.
    ---
    1 nitpick
    "Sort this list, and put it in a map"
    Your example needs work... Maps are usually unordered key value data structures.
    Why are you sorting it before turning it into a map where it immediately no longer matters what order its in?
    Or do you mean just put it in the map like, mymap[k] = mylist
    With context the meaning would probably be clear as to what is needed but without context its not a good example XD

    • @TravisMedia
      @TravisMedia  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, it was a quick, off-the-cuff example.

    • @thechessmaster9291
      @thechessmaster9291 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TravisMedia You were probably distracted by your own background music ..... you need that , don't you ??? Like the neurotic behavior of those folks with their heads in the sand eh phones ....
      oh wait ! you put the fking background music in there for us !!!!
      really ???

  • @StephenRayner
    @StephenRayner 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What are your thoughts on rubber ducking with the GPT advanced voice?

  • @ozdenocak7937
    @ozdenocak7937 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks, really great video!

  • @drno87
    @drno87 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this essentially different from earlier complaints about today's youth not being as good anymore? Whether it's high-level languages like C letting the kids avoid learning assembly or junior devs copy-pasting from StackOverflow, there's always some recent technology that gets invoked to explain why things were better in the good old days.
    I think that most junior devs just aren't cut out to thrive in the field. They'll plod along, taking the path of least resistance to do their immediate tasks. Only a minority will take the extra time and effort to hone their craft. This has been true in the past as well.
    The junior careers of today's seniors are a biased sample. Think of how many of their peers went into non-developer roles or left the industry altogether.

  • @BeeKay-fm6in
    @BeeKay-fm6in 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This video was 💯 helpful. Listened to it three times. 🤔 maybe a few more in the future 😊

  • @MegaHellenkeller
    @MegaHellenkeller วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doesn’t this mean I did the right thing by turning off Intellisense because I felt it actually hampering my ability to reason the code I was writing?

  • @DarinM1967
    @DarinM1967 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Addiction is a very over used word and is very subjective. Everyone who uses their phones are not addicted it them, anymore than anyone who eats ice cream, plays video games, and or gambles. Many inexperienced or "young delves" suffer from the same problems they have throughout the ages, lack of discipline, in their actions, study and work habits, and in their thinking. Now, we can keep blaming outside forces but doing so always fails. There are more "young delves" now than there ever were, so the numbers of complaints about them are also the highest they ever were. The only solution for a company/team has always been the only solution is a trial period. If they pass or they are "good enough", which is the go to word for software developers for the last 50 years, then keep them, train them, if not, then don't. There is absolutely no other solution because the "lack of discipline" is 95+% the issue and whether they have phone in their hand, laptop, or a paper notebook and just rehashing this crap over, and over, and over does nothing but give you some view, and stoke the flames of frustration. Thumbs down because this issue has been repeated addressed since the 50s and probably in other trades for thousands of years.

  • @OrinThomas
    @OrinThomas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Charlie Stross was one SF author who predicted the delegation of cognitive function to AI (and the deleterious effects thereof) in his novel Accelerando.

  • @ncmathsadist
    @ncmathsadist 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The phone is ruining "third places." Go to a gym or a coffee shop. Most people have headphones or ear bud on and can't hear others. Places that used to be social are now social deserts. It is the mindless non-stop consumption of media that is a major curse of the 21st century.

  • @jeffsteyn7174
    @jeffsteyn7174 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree. We shouldnt buy cars we need to keep our horses. Its only going to make us lazy.
    Just like when we started using modern libraries, we not going to learn the underlying concepts. Same arguments came forward when we went from notepad for coding to full blown IDEs 😂
    Listern to this guy at your own peril.
    Besides these counter arguments against using AI, AI also saves you hours if not days worth of time doing research and troubleshooting which means you can spend more time building apps that solve your users problems

  • @ChiltonWebb
    @ChiltonWebb 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The AI doesn't have to worry about feeling like an imposter, or feeling like they're going to lose their job if they mess it up, or anything like that.
    If we treated AI the way we treat human employees, no one would use AI.

  • @mxz2024
    @mxz2024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    the problem is the capitalism. at work you are "forced" to perform . so if AI let s you get your work done faster, you will and have to use it as much as possible, even if it s bad for your brain , because you won't train it as much anymore. so it depends what you want and have to - fast results or personal education

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No; the problem is tying up everything to single metric: velocity.

  • @borbelyviktor3057
    @borbelyviktor3057 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Valid thoughts about AI.

  • @andrei4389
    @andrei4389 วันที่ผ่านมา

    >Ok, so I am using sand that has been processed for 4-5 months in a remote factory in taiwan
    >using machines made in amsterdam
    >shipped 2-3 months via evergreen
    >stockpiled in some warehouse I never see
    >delivered to me via a truck that runs on dinosaur bones
    >in a box made of dead trees
    >installed in a motherboard that followed a completely different path, made of completely different materials, lithium for the 2032 battery from cancun, the gold for the circuits is mined from zambia, the fan is designed by some random in uruguay that had the credit stolen by him from someone in california that had them manufactured in china
    >running an OS made by some swedish or norse or danish guy idk
    >maintained by thousands of people
    >stolen and re-done by some fruitarian in Palo Alto that died of liver cancer
    >running on a mix of electricity from uranium mined in Ural Mountains and hydroelectricity from a dam, and geothermal powerplants and wind turbines
    >getting information to it over long glass wires that reflect light with almost 0 reflectivity loss
    >displaying it on an array of millions of pixels
    >and all I do is string together API calls that were written by people long dead before I was born
    BUT GOD DAMN IT I WILL NOT USE AI CUZ THAT'S ONE ABSTRACTION LAYER TOO MUCH