Lord of Spirits - Torah 2: Back in the Habit [Ep. 88]

Continuing their examination of the Torah and its place in the Christian Church, Fr. Stephen and Fr. Andrew look at Torah themes of worship, uncleanness, and the death penalties.
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Lord of Spirits - Torah 2: Back in the Habit [Ep. 88]
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[@FearghusTaggart]

In Scotland we have an amusing variation on the goat/cliff story (unrepeatable here, of course). Delighted to discover its an Israelite thing. All the best 🐳🐋

[@TheDroc1990]

Thank you, Fathers. Please say a prayer for your viewers.

[@torreyspencer4928]

Powerful. I will be relistening

[@easymentality]

Am I the only absolutely pumped for the Great Tales comin' this fall?!

[@frandrewstephendamick]

You are not the only one.

[@rockytopbritt]

I'm excited as well.

[@etheretherether]

You are not the only one.

[@soulchristen]

Bless. In the last Torah episode, i thought you were saying Latvia. Now i hear Lafayette, LA. Im dead. 😅 ... i will be bringing Cajun Owl the next time i drive through

[@etheretherether]

The ending discussion of anathema was super useful as a Protestant listener struggling to understand Orthodoxy. It doesn't "answer" my questions, but it's useful to understand the perspective much more clearly.
The natural thought that of course comes to mind is:
1) What of a would-be convert in another denomination? Say a Roman Catholic or a Protestant, should they be obedient to their spiritual fathers, or convert?
2) The obvious problem of Austria in the 1940s arises. There where many Catholics who where told by their spiritual fathers to just go along with things. Some obeyed their spiritual fathers while others, like Franz Jagerstatter refused to comply with the government to the point of imprisonment and ultimately death.
So from the Orthodox pov, where is the line between personal accountability and obedience drawn?

[@randy8081]

The last part about internet orthodox is key fathers thank you.

[@NorthAmerican-zo3ob]

Some Priests and bishops need to be corrected from their hypocrisy. And some defrocked.
We need more accountability

[@andreaurelius45]

The system works better than you think.
If you go looking for Perfect people, you will never find one over the age of 3.

[@NorthAmerican-zo3ob]

@@andreaurelius45 thanks for your wisdom sir. God works best. I don’t look for perfect people, I seek those who strive for perfection in Jesus Christ in His Church. And those people who can be humble, be accountable and not punch me in the face when I speak the truth in love to them. Again, I speak to priests

[@campomambo]

And many under 3 who are less than perfect too

[@davidstaudinger1543]

Thanks for addressing no one in particular at the end there, I was wondering what the church stance is on anathema due to no one in particular

[@olgakarpushina492]

Regarding shellfish, I am surprised that the hosts do not know that in Russian Orthodox Church shellfish isn't allowed during Lent and other so-called strict fasting periods. We go completely vegan, no animal products, maybe except for honey on some days. ROCOR, on the other hand, does allow shellfish, at least some piests do.

[@essboarder23]

My god family (Deacon includes) are all Russian, who follow the fast strictly. But they don't abstain from shellfish. Perhaps it's not a universal Russian practice?

[@olgakarpushina492]

@@essboarder23 they must be from ROCOR (Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia). Not Russia itself.

[@essboarder23]

@@olgakarpushina492 they're immigrants from Russia.

[@olgakarpushina492]

@@essboarder23 but they're under the ROCOR's now. That's exactly what I'm saying. I was in ROCOR and we celebrated Christmas on Jan 7, then I went under OCA, Orthodox Church of America,and there Christmas is celebrated on Dec 25. Depends on the Patriarchate.

[@essboarder23]

@@olgakarpushina492 they're not rocor, they're in the same non-Russian jurisdiction as I am. Just that there fasting praxis as they were taught in Russia doesn't include shellfish. But perhaps it's because they were in a very remote part of Russia

[@andrewternet8370]

41:40 Skulls for the Golden Throne!

[@easymentality]

2:07
"I eschew the Facebooks"