Blizzard: "Hanzo has increased lethality with these health decreases, so we brought down his health too." Meanwhile, Ashe and Junkrat with their one shot combos back: "be very very quiet, they can't see us if we don't move"
@@juanaguilar3812 That only works in low to bottom midranks. Soon as you hit Diamond that doesn't work. At least not often enough to rely on that playstyle to maintain the rank. Skill and positioning is required.
@@Jidom_101 yeah cus going out of scope with a hit scan high fire rate weapon takes so much more skill or throwing a mine after landing the most luck based left click in the game
Actually not Moreweth. I do think its cringe that they've been one tricking Mercy for months now but they've been in diamond for a while now, and the username is different
That’s partially why I hate placements. I will go 8-2 on support have the best heal stats while also getting kills and my placement rank will go from gold 5 to gold 2.
I still think it's a little weird that Hanzo got the health nerf despite not fitting the criteria of "high mobility". They said "Hanzo has potential to kill enemies at long range like Widow" (Even though Widow is one of the best DPS right now in High MMR since she has better effective range, 300 dmg on headshot (60 more than Hanzo) so she can one-tap way more heroes than Hanzo, better mobility and escape, and is easier to land shots with simply because she's hitscan). Hanzo was already arguably the weakest dmg hero, and he requires way too much effort for such little payoff. Yet, they nerfed his health anyway (Hanzo having really bad mobility that's dependent on if he's near a wall that has a ledge). Being able to one-tap like 5 more heroes that have insane levels of movement that make landing a headshot on them incredibly difficult is cool and all (Widow can one-tap every hero in both the dmg and support role way more consistently than Hanzo can btw), but they nerfed him for a reason that really doesn't make any sense. Hanzo isn't all that good at long range anyway (Widow is), and Hanzo's effective range requires being in close to mid range. They indirectly buffed him in a FEW situations, but directly nerfed him in ALL situations. (It's very similar to the Dragonstrike "buff", which is mostly a nerf disguised as a buff) Why the hell would they net nerf one of the weakest heroes in the game? Why would should I even bother playing Hanzo when I can get much more pay off with a hero that is less mechanically demanding and can hit shots much more easier? Ashe is a hitscan too, and has both better effective range and a much faster firing rate, and yet she didn't get a health nerf. I really hope they revert Hanzo's HP nerf cuz he just doesn't need it. It just feels like Blizzard is nerfing Hanzo and giving him weaknesses to accommodate for strengths that Hanzo doesn't even have.
Facts on Facts. if anything they should've nerfed Bap who has 3 Health Bars with other supports who got nerfed as well. They SHOULDN'T have buffed Sombra ...
Hanzo is a scapegoat for the dev teams incompetence. The hate for Hanzo has been high and long standing since OW1 which is why he will never get a direct buff and if he ever does you can bet he will receive a direct nerf to compensate, most changes for Hanzo beat around the bush anyway. The devs and community hate Hanzo so much they would rather punish other characters just to avoid throwing Hanzo a bone.
10:30 definitely agree with you also considering that blade can be hard to actually use when you're getting stomped and the mercy doing that right after is crazy...
I find it really, REALLY funny that the supposed "hanzo buff" ended up having more negative impact than positive. Widow and Genji have just been gifted 10x easier access to countering him while receiving ZERO drawback whatsoever. Still incapable of oneshotting genji when he dives, yet he can oneshot you with nanoblade (which can slash dash 225 targets), near-instant kill with a rightclick melee dash, or even just deflecting YOUR arrow back into YOUR head. Widow gets to stand even FURTHER away, since falloff now applies even less to the shot since you have less HP for the falloff to matter, and has to charge her shot even less to oneshot meaning she gets even more freedom to stand far enough to simply dodge any arrows coming her way. I am incredibly thankful for the hp reductions, and the defense matrix moving back down to 3s, but reducing hanzos health to "make up for his oneshot" while a character like junkrat still exists is insane. the increased arrow hitbox does NOT make up for losing his oneshot. Not even close. I would much rather get more value out of a harder shot to hit than to get less value out of an easier shot. Taking away skill ceiling and replacing it with a higher skill floor is about as far from balancing a sniper based character that I can think of. Hanzo's kit in its entirety relies on being able to hit shots, that is why he has always been a more niche character who non-hanzo players call "luck based." If the enemy hanzo feels like he's hitting heads every fight and is "just so lucky!" then hes probably just shooting at people who walk in straight lines or dont pay attention. (A large reason I say all of this is also due to the fact that sojourn received yet another buff this patch and the dps role as an entirety is feeling more and more stale within the state of 5v5.)
I think it is interesting that widow and Hanzo who are considered snipers have their health reduced and Ashe isn’t considered in the same category… she can snipe just as effectively as those two
Hi i'm the flaming mercy, i came here to say that you are right.. it was my fault. I was having a bad day and i shouldn't lash out on people trying to have fun playing a game... i'm really sorry, and i feel on the spotlight now. I thank you, this embarrasement i feel will make me a better person next time.
I’m actually so excited for more videos where u pop off even more bc of this buff. Like this video just came out but I’m already refreshing the channel page. Great work arrge❤
I used to play Hanzo, a lot... when Overwatch 2 released... I have JUST returned to the game, fresh account, 1 and a half years later. First game with Hanzo... Very first shot as well... Went through a bush, to a random spot on the map, and head-shotted a random Juno DEAD in the HEAD getting me a insta-kill, not 5 seconds into the match... I still got it! :)
Never knew the spot at 2:15.. I would LOVE to see a new video including new maps with new of these spots or rollouts. I got some for you in Hanamura (tested the map for hours in solo player to find cool ones) let me know if you want to see them Arrge!
This placement video was great, it's insightful, shows the good and the bad, excellent content. Would love an overview of season 12 as a video as you ride the wave of ranked ups and downs in a similar fashion. If anything it might showcase to the devs just how chaotic and weird ranked can be (which is bad).
Same. 3 wins and 7 losses in placement and got dropped from Plat 5 to Gold 3. Made it up a week later then dropped in Gold again. Made it up again to Plat 2 and now I'm trying to claw out of Plat 4 and 3.
ever since season 9 buffs + nerfs, as a masters hanzo player havent been able to enjoy this game at all, props to you being able to somewhat enjoy the game still lol
On the subject about tilting. Maybe im a bit more mature because of responsibilities, but if im get called something im not going to throw because i love winning and nothing shuts somebody else faster then proving them wrong. One of the best feelings!
Also im never going to take what a mercy/Moira player says seriously. I'm sure statistically speaking those 2 (and zen) players talk the most crap first without actually impacting the game. 7/10 times a mercy will start beef with everyone for no reason, friend or enemy.
The mercy was another streamer. Not saying who but I recognized the voice immediately. They should not have flammed the genji but 100% ulting in spawn is not ok. Turned team moral further down. However, that mercy game play was questionable at best from the few parts down (we all make mistakes tho). Mental is the mini game of overwatch (which I'm currently losing as a ball player)
16:50 as someone who plays a lot of echo/hanzo who is kinda stuck in dia i have to say the most annoying thing to play with is these mercy players who pretend to pocket you before the fight and when you go for sometyhing they just fuck off and leave you to die
It happend to me as Lifeweaver. Predicted rank was Silver 4. I won three games in a row, one of them I finished deathless and my rank at the end of these three matches was... Silver 4. I healed more than the other support, died less and why did the game leave my predicted rank unchanged? At least, after a lot more losses than wins I finished placements at Gold 5. Not touching that role in ranked again until next season. Or at least not until I understand how the algorithms make that decision.
Why do you have diamond damage as title arrge? Last time i got you in my matches that was masters! Either way great seeing you upload, make sure to try archery for real! Lemme know when, im in Finland for the month 😂
Omg I recognize that Mercy from Junkertown A living menace I was carrying a game as widow and tracer on Illios? (the Italian payload map) and bro was flaming me the whole time. Def has a chip on their shoulder.
I cannot believe I'm in an Arrge video because I'm the weird Gibraltar Sombra, I thought the name "Streamer" is just for attention, and... yeah... 😂 Watching that match was giving me serious deja vu until I remember the specific scenario at 6:33 and my frustration after missing. That was a few weeks or so ago, brains are so weird.
i rly appreciate u uploaded some of these clownfiesta games. I peaked mid plat last time I played comp ( about a year ago ) and have been considering trying it again. I can see it’s still a toxic mess 😂
It’s unbelievable how I am a whole 6 divisions higher than you while not having half of your game sense or mechanical skills. Just because they gutted your hero and made him less skillful.
This video took WAY TOO LONG to make... im so sorry! Never making a placements video again 💀I
I love you Arrge
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turned out great though! will you be streaming anytime soon now that it’s done? much love!
This was really fun though. It was worth it.
we appreciate it honestly ❤
5:02 xd the pigeon juno
Blizzard: "Hanzo has increased lethality with these health decreases, so we brought down his health too."
Meanwhile, Ashe and Junkrat with their one shot combos back: "be very very quiet, they can't see us if we don't move"
& ontop of that junkrats playstyle can be so annoying. you can win by sitting back, aiming up, and jusr randomly spam ur weapon & get kills
@@juanaguilar3812 That only works in low to bottom midranks. Soon as you hit Diamond that doesn't work. At least not often enough to rely on that playstyle to maintain the rank. Skill and positioning is required.
Those are combos it’s pretty different from a hanzo headshot
Well, JunkRat is a low tier character 😂.
@@Jidom_101 yeah cus going out of scope with a hit scan high fire rate weapon takes so much more skill or throwing a mine after landing the most luck based left click in the game
I don't think the counter is distracting at all. I actually really like it
Actually very curious about if people found it distracting. everyone, fight under this comment! 👇
@@ArrgeThe counter is a good addition and not distracting
I think a small counter with a quieter ding would be alright
counter’s not that bad, maybe a smaller ding
@@Arrge Counter was fine and not distracting.
I believe that flaming Mercy is "MOreweth" a former ball otp stuck in platinum for 1000 games straight on Mercy.
The voice did sound familiar tbh.
laughing stock of the ow community honestly... worse than metro
Actually not Moreweth. I do think its cringe that they've been one tricking Mercy for months now but they've been in diamond for a while now, and the username is different
@@Randomness662 100% Moreweth he's even talking to Arrge by name.
Oh my lord... 11:25 is rough, but the SLOW TEABAG by the Valking Mercy is just a new level of brutal.
5:00 the pigeon lmao
Thanks Arrge, genuinely the most satisfying Overwatch tuber to watch. Feels borderline ASMR to me
Thank youuuu! ❤️❤️
Is it just me or the Mercy on Junkertown sounded like Moreweth?
Didn't know who that was, looked them up, considering they went from ball to Mercy and sound exactly like that mercy.... Yeah it probably is
"I've never been solo ulted by a tree" LMAOOO i don't think anyone has been before this point sob 😭
editing is fantastic! Very creative :) the security camera effect at 6:47 made me laugh
That’s partially why I hate placements. I will go 8-2 on support have the best heal stats while also getting kills and my placement rank will go from gold 5 to gold 2.
i won 7 games and lose 3 on support and it gave me gold 3
@@juanaguilar3812 I finished last season in diamond5 and went 4W-6L (3 of which had leavers) and it placed me plat3 annoyingly but it is what it is.
@@juanaguilar3812 Lmao I literally won 8 out of 10 placement matches for tank and got placed gold 4.
Love you!
Thank you so much!!
the man that made me play hanzo when i knew i was trash but i have improved thx to your vids
9:22 the entire dps experience atm.
I still think it's a little weird that Hanzo got the health nerf despite not fitting the criteria of "high mobility".
They said "Hanzo has potential to kill enemies at long range like Widow" (Even though Widow is one of the best DPS right now in High MMR since she has better effective range, 300 dmg on headshot (60 more than Hanzo) so she can one-tap way more heroes than Hanzo, better mobility and escape, and is easier to land shots with simply because she's hitscan).
Hanzo was already arguably the weakest dmg hero, and he requires way too much effort for such little payoff. Yet, they nerfed his health anyway (Hanzo having really bad mobility that's dependent on if he's near a wall that has a ledge).
Being able to one-tap like 5 more heroes that have insane levels of movement that make landing a headshot on them incredibly difficult is cool and all (Widow can one-tap every hero in both the dmg and support role way more consistently than Hanzo can btw), but they nerfed him for a reason that really doesn't make any sense. Hanzo isn't all that good at long range anyway (Widow is), and Hanzo's effective range requires being in close to mid range. They indirectly buffed him in a FEW situations, but directly nerfed him in ALL situations. (It's very similar to the Dragonstrike "buff", which is mostly a nerf disguised as a buff)
Why the hell would they net nerf one of the weakest heroes in the game? Why would should I even bother playing Hanzo when I can get much more pay off with a hero that is less mechanically demanding and can hit shots much more easier?
Ashe is a hitscan too, and has both better effective range and a much faster firing rate, and yet she didn't get a health nerf.
I really hope they revert Hanzo's HP nerf cuz he just doesn't need it. It just feels like Blizzard is nerfing Hanzo and giving him weaknesses to accommodate for strengths that Hanzo doesn't even have.
Facts on Facts.
if anything they should've nerfed Bap who has 3 Health Bars with other supports who got nerfed as well.
They SHOULDN'T have buffed Sombra ...
good nerf that hero to the ground
Hanzo is a scapegoat for the dev teams incompetence. The hate for Hanzo has been high and long standing since OW1 which is why he will never get a direct buff and if he ever does you can bet he will receive a direct nerf to compensate, most changes for Hanzo beat around the bush anyway. The devs and community hate Hanzo so much they would rather punish other characters just to avoid throwing Hanzo a bone.
The editing is mwuah! Chef's kiss! Worth the wait!
Finally, i've been waiting for this video all month
Don't rush Sensei
10:30 definitely agree with you also considering that blade can be hard to actually use when you're getting stomped and the mercy doing that right after is crazy...
Actually im willing to wait even months for you to upload, your videos are getting SOO good, love the editing!
All I could think about this season was waiting to see a video from you with the new changes. I always appreciate your uploads, truly.
Bro the editing on these videos is S tier . Awesome work as always Arrge :)
I find it really, REALLY funny that the supposed "hanzo buff" ended up having more negative impact than positive. Widow and Genji have just been gifted 10x easier access to countering him while receiving ZERO drawback whatsoever. Still incapable of oneshotting genji when he dives, yet he can oneshot you with nanoblade (which can slash dash 225 targets), near-instant kill with a rightclick melee dash, or even just deflecting YOUR arrow back into YOUR head. Widow gets to stand even FURTHER away, since falloff now applies even less to the shot since you have less HP for the falloff to matter, and has to charge her shot even less to oneshot meaning she gets even more freedom to stand far enough to simply dodge any arrows coming her way.
I am incredibly thankful for the hp reductions, and the defense matrix moving back down to 3s, but reducing hanzos health to "make up for his oneshot" while a character like junkrat still exists is insane.
the increased arrow hitbox does NOT make up for losing his oneshot. Not even close. I would much rather get more value out of a harder shot to hit than to get less value out of an easier shot. Taking away skill ceiling and replacing it with a higher skill floor is about as far from balancing a sniper based character that I can think of. Hanzo's kit in its entirety relies on being able to hit shots, that is why he has always been a more niche character who non-hanzo players call "luck based." If the enemy hanzo feels like he's hitting heads every fight and is "just so lucky!" then hes probably just shooting at people who walk in straight lines or dont pay attention.
(A large reason I say all of this is also due to the fact that sojourn received yet another buff this patch and the dps role as an entirety is feeling more and more stale within the state of 5v5.)
FINALLY HE UPLOADED. WHATS UP HANZO KING😎
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The Security Camera shot 😆😆😆😆 lolol
When rewatched I noticed a lot of details and nice transitions that I had not noticed before. Thanks for your work, Arrge
I think it is interesting that widow and Hanzo who are considered snipers have their health reduced and Ashe isn’t considered in the same category… she can snipe just as effectively as those two
19:35 I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS C9 THING ARRGE PLZ MAKE IT A SIGNATURE OR SOMETHING ITS HILARIOUS LMAO
Hi i'm the flaming mercy, i came here to say that you are right.. it was my fault. I was having a bad day and i shouldn't lash out on people trying to have fun playing a game... i'm really sorry, and i feel on the spotlight now. I thank you, this embarrasement i feel will make me a better person next time.
It’s okay man we all go through it every now and then and we don’t notice our own mistakes when we’re mad
Your name isn't Moreweth
Shits happens and I think we all sometimes tend to use an “easy but lazy” way to deal with the bad mood; best of luck; hope you feel better now :)
Pog
Hey bro we all get tilted
You are human we all want to get tilted especially in overwatch let's be honest
Our king is finally back i was hyped for this vid about hanzo buff
Been eagerly awaiting this video, thanks Arrge!
I love your editing man, some of the funniest videos in the Overwatch community by far ! :) Loving the pigeons lmao
You know Hanzo sucks really bad when you are able to see Arrge on your games 😅
Was enemy tank in last game, cam confirm lol
0:11 i can see the pain in his look
I’m actually so excited for more videos where u pop off even more bc of this buff. Like this video just came out but I’m already refreshing the channel page. Great work arrge❤
2:16 OMG! it's me xD
God the quality of these videos, this is why i always come back to your channel
great video arrge!! it feels so good to be playing hanzo now
"I feel like bob ross with happy accidents". What a line hahaha amazing.
I really liked the editing this time. Especially the parts with the cameras. Just laughed so hard with the slow zooms and sounds😂
The bob Ross ref at 4:28 is legendary
Papa Arrge doesnt disappoint with the new video
this guy sounds like the pro gamer version of austin powers goldmember
Arrge might be going insane, and i love it🙏🔥🔥
Am i the only one to notice that at 19:40 it said contested with 0.01 m?
You're right, they should've had overtime 100%! That's super weird.
Yea sa that to
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE. Can’t wait to watch later
Thank God he's getting buffed. Might actually come back to overwatch finally.
2:14 thank you i can't unhear now forever
This was an amazing video. Very dramatic! The feels when the guy asks what you're doing in his plat game!!!
Thanks for ur hard work arrge i enjoy when you upload 😊
5:01 hahahaha I had to go back because my brain and my eyes weren't seeing the same thing hahaha
3:33 "Not now, Genji." 😂😂
I hope these videos are worth your time and effort because they are really good and fun to watch ❤
The editing is so good i like it ❤
Great editing on this one :)
@Arrge your story telling is off the charts! Please more!!!
I used to play Hanzo, a lot... when Overwatch 2 released... I have JUST returned to the game, fresh account, 1 and a half years later.
First game with Hanzo... Very first shot as well...
Went through a bush, to a random spot on the map, and head-shotted a random Juno DEAD in the HEAD getting me a insta-kill, not 5 seconds into the match...
I still got it! :)
I like a minimalist style dink counter without the sound. That way you let the game do the dinking and you the counting.
the editing on this video is insane
Arrge! I have been wondering where you have been. Hope you are well good to see you uploading again!
Bro when I saw the pigeon I thought I was hallucinating lmao
Gotta be one of your best videos 👌
12:50 I'm still waiting for the what💀💀💀
These security camera angles are great 10:27
Dude that whole junkertown match is just the sum of overwatch the blame game even tho mercy is straight up throwing
Never knew the spot at 2:15.. I would LOVE to see a new video including new maps with new of these spots or rollouts.
I got some for you in Hanamura (tested the map for hours in solo player to find cool ones) let me know if you want to see them Arrge!
This placement video was great, it's insightful, shows the good and the bad, excellent content. Would love an overview of season 12 as a video as you ride the wave of ranked ups and downs in a similar fashion. If anything it might showcase to the devs just how chaotic and weird ranked can be (which is bad).
The editing....top notch ^^
watching that reaper solo ult you was kinda validating tho tbh lmao you were getting under the man's skin
im relieved after seeing this diamond 5 gameplay
NO WAYYYY. look at 19:41 if u slow it down you can see that the mercy contested at 00.01 but it didnt register unlky man
Arrge, I picked up Hanzo because of you. I've never played him before as much as I do now.
cant sleep at 3 am but arrge saves the day
15second upload THANK YOU TH-cam
Same. 3 wins and 7 losses in placement and got dropped from Plat 5 to Gold 3. Made it up a week later then dropped in Gold again. Made it up again to Plat 2 and now I'm trying to claw out of Plat 4 and 3.
10:20 totally agree with you actually.
ever since season 9 buffs + nerfs, as a masters hanzo player havent been able to enjoy this game at all, props to you being able to somewhat enjoy the game still lol
I'd love to see you try out knockoff-Hanzo on Deadlock
I think you might have a blast and a half.
The ranked experience is so relatable
That Tree ult got you! That was funny
19:41 if you focus at the last frame you would see that the mercy or ram touched the payload 😔
On the subject about tilting. Maybe im a bit more mature because of responsibilities, but if im get called something im not going to throw because i love winning and nothing shuts somebody else faster then proving them wrong. One of the best feelings!
Also im never going to take what a mercy/Moira player says seriously. I'm sure statistically speaking those 2 (and zen) players talk the most crap first without actually impacting the game. 7/10 times a mercy will start beef with everyone for no reason, friend or enemy.
8:02 one MOONHAMSTER in your team and the second MOONHAMSTER in the ennemy team.. The streamsnipping is insane.
i think thats a streamer mode name so thats two different people that dont have anything in common
The mercy was another streamer. Not saying who but I recognized the voice immediately. They should not have flammed the genji but 100% ulting in spawn is not ok. Turned team moral further down. However, that mercy game play was questionable at best from the few parts down (we all make mistakes tho). Mental is the mini game of overwatch (which I'm currently losing as a ball player)
Arrge I wish you would have put a genji ult noise at 6 minutes in the video. would have definitely paid off during the later clip hahaha
16:50 as someone who plays a lot of echo/hanzo who is kinda stuck in dia i have to say the most annoying thing to play with is these mercy players who pretend to pocket you before the fight and when you go for sometyhing they just fuck off and leave you to die
19:40 does anyone else see the “contested” before the match ends
awesome montage
i have 10hrs on hanzo and stopped playing him for 6 months. i came back to him when the buffs happened and it was crazy. i got a 4k with hanzo
Was that mercy at 12:57 moreweth? Sounds exactly like him
It happend to me as Lifeweaver. Predicted rank was Silver 4. I won three games in a row, one of them I finished deathless and my rank at the end of these three matches was... Silver 4.
I healed more than the other support, died less and why did the game leave my predicted rank unchanged?
At least, after a lot more losses than wins I finished placements at Gold 5.
Not touching that role in ranked again until next season.
Or at least not until I understand how the algorithms make that decision.
"im pulling out my glock with bob shooting at me and wasting valk to teabag a sigma, its not my fault"
"Reaaad the patch notes" i swear im using that when I start tilting people 😭😭
Why do you have diamond damage as title arrge? Last time i got you in my matches that was masters! Either way great seeing you upload, make sure to try archery for real! Lemme know when, im in Finland for the month 😂
after the hanzo and sojourn nerfs , Overwatch just hasn’t been the same for me.
Omg
I recognize that Mercy from Junkertown
A living menace
I was carrying a game as widow and tracer on Illios? (the Italian payload map) and bro was flaming me the whole time. Def has a chip on their shoulder.
I cannot believe I'm in an Arrge video because I'm the weird Gibraltar Sombra, I thought the name "Streamer" is just for attention, and... yeah... 😂
Watching that match was giving me serious deja vu until I remember the specific scenario at 6:33 and my frustration after missing. That was a few weeks or so ago, brains are so weird.
i rly appreciate u uploaded some of these clownfiesta games. I peaked mid plat last time I played comp ( about a year ago ) and have been considering trying it again. I can see it’s still a toxic mess 😂
It’s unbelievable how I am a whole 6 divisions higher than you while not having half of your game sense or mechanical skills. Just because they gutted your hero and made him less skillful.
19:40 Mercy has arrived at 0.01m 😐😐