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Most portable gas burner explosions are caused by using cooking tools that are too large. When the cooking tool covers the gas storage area, the hot heat is transferred to the gas can, which expands with the heat, so it swells up and....explodes. So it's important not to cover the gas storage area when cooking.
Oh had I wish we’d known this could happen, unfortunately I was sitting right next to the can when it exploded and the whole left side of my body was burned, I was in and out of hospital for about a year dealing with infections and new burns every single day. Who knew such a little can could cause such a massive explosion 😢
Exactly. Most butane gas has this as a warning. And some people still do it! I use just the right cooking tool not ones that can transfer heat on my butane canister. And I check the temperature of my canister sometimes but it gets like cold it has that thing so it doesn't get too hot and explode.
Very important. Over the last years an article has been circulating on several German websites about how to use these safely. The size of the pan is the one thing, the other is that as soon as the stove is turned off, you should remove the pot/pan, as leaving it on there could also make the canister overheat. Apparently while cooking, the butane changing from liquid to gas produces cold, so that the canister self-cools to a certain degree. So when that stops, the hot pan or pot on the stove could be too much heat.
@@rebal1681 This sort of gas cartridge does not have to stay in until empty. As a matter of fact, the user manual of my gas stove (Kemper 104987 smart) says to remove the gas canister when the stove is not used for a while. Other sources mention removing the cartridge when storing or transporting the stove. So you can unlock and remove it directly after cooking (and then preferably store it upright until next used).
@@bambubombon I'm thinking of buying an Iwatani. Do you leave the canister indefinitely until it is empty? It doesn't leak over time while plugged in?
@@Mr-E. HI Mr E.. I can confirm I have never had any problems leaving the cannister in. I am now using a different model of Iwatani and I'm also very happy. It's a very good brand, totally safe if you leave teh cannister connected on a day to day basis. If you see the soup video on my channel you will see an Iwatani stove working. The model I have now is more modern, with a different design, but just as good. I recommend the product 100%. If you have any other questions, please get back to me.. Incidentally I will be publishing a new video about my new Iwatain soon, in case you're interested. Take care!
Great information! the most important point she said in the video, which is probably the primary reason for those canisters (with or without a safety valve) to explode is people using a pot or a skillet that is TOO LARGE for the stove, which causes the area where the canister sits to heat up, causing the pressure to build up in the gas canister which later might explode. Always read what is the largest thing you can cook with on that stove, and never think you can exceed it - I'd even say, if the stove is built (per instructions or said on the box) for a max 25cm diameter skillet, I would use a max 20-21cm diameter skillet on it, just to be on the safe side
@@faithmoore7520 Don't take my word for it, but I think that as long as the skillet is not weighting like 20kg, you could use it, as long as the diameter does not exceed the max allowed diameter for your camping stove. I'd also say it depends on how robust your camping stove is, I have seen some that were very light weight and were not meant to do a lot of work, and some heavier duty camping stoves, that were made so that people would cook on them entire meals for days.
Thank you so much for posting this video. Who knows how many lives might be saved because you were thoughtful enough to share this information. I know of someone who was just burned severely when one of these exploded. She was completely engulfed in flames, if there had not been people close by who were able to put the fire out and cut her clothes off of her, she wouldn't have survived. She is now in the burn unit of a local hospital and faces a long and painful recovery.
I immediately went to my shed and checked my fuel canisters. So glad I seen this video and so glad all my fuel cans have the release ports. You'll never know how many people you might have saved from a really bad experience.
Did she?... how many news reports have you heard of these canisters randomly exploding in just hot weather?... I've never heard of it myself... and wouldn't there be a Consumer Safety Bulletin put out on it?... both of those "exploded" images look kind of sketchy, like they were set up to explode....
Great advice..I saw one of these canisters/stoves explode on a beach in South UK a few years ago. Fortunately it rocketed about 20 feet in the air in a fireball and didn't engulf the kids or parents sitting around it cooking! They were obviously very shaken and packed up straight away and left..no injuries luckily but the experience was a lesson learned.
Oh there were injuries alright. What you don't know is I was the father of that family. We ended up driving off a cliff due to my wife's crappy driving and kids fighting in the back. Boooooooooo!
These stoves can be very safe to use, but care should be taken using them. The cylinder has to get very hot to burst A CRV can stop the tank from actually exploding but it achieves this by releasing all its fuel at once. If the stove is lit, this can result in a large fire ball. Don't let the CRV label make you think there's no danger .
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST Whichever Chinese company makes the stoves for sale in Australia. By law they must have an overpressure safety gas shut off and an overpressure safety canister ejection shut off, and all canisters must have Rim vent safety overpressure release.
I have a question that I can't find the answer to, I'm a lazy reader. What should I do if I just boiled water on this stove to make sure my parents could use it and now that their power is back on, the can has plenty of fuel left in it? Should I pull the can out, mark it and store it with the new ones or does the can store in the stove safely? Thanks
Not only informative but that flip on those eggs was Gordon Ramsey smooth. Thank you for sharing this information, it was a pleasure to watch, learn and listen to your soothing voice.
@@RainbowGardens It was a pleasure. Just a quick question if you don't mind, what type of frying pan was that, it looks like a perfect fit for the burner.
I just bought a Iwatani YAKIMARU II CB-SLG-2. Although it looks like food will be going on the top and not a pan, this still feels to me that you saved my life by introducing the CRV label I knew nothing about. I was on my way to the hardware store to get gas, and now know that I will only purchase canisters with the CRV label. Many blessings to you and yours for posting this!
Absolutely agree. In my youth I used to get up to all kinds of pyro shenanigans out in the garden, generally involving a bin incinerator, petrol and other flammables. (dont judge me, I was young and stupid). One time we poured a gallon of petrol into the steel bin, lit it and then threw in a full can of bug spray. When it eventually cooked off, it exploded with a thunderous bang, sent a black mushroom cloud into the air, and exploded with such force that it extinguished the damn petrol fire. It literally went off with such concussive force that it blew out/vaporised, the petrol fire. A can of bug spray is almost identical to a can of butane regarding size, chemical energy and thermal output. I can say from first hand experience that when they cook off, its shockingly explosive. With pipe bombs, the contents explodes and this causes the shell to expand and fracture, causing the "explosion". With cooked off fuel containers, thermal expansion of the contents causes the container to fail. ergo, explode, and THEN the flammable contents erupts outwards, igniting when it hits the heat source,. This results in a huge, outwardly expanding gas bomb. Its not thermobaric but rapidly expanding hot fuel gasses exploding outwards and hitting an ignition source sure makes for a huge, hot, dangerous explosion. The funny thing is that these cookers, if used correctly, are largely self regulating. If you use them correctly and carefully, and dont use an over-sized pan, the butane canister stays VERY cool. Expanding gases cool down. I use mine regularly, and I always check temps, and the butane canister is usually very cold to the touch after use. Use them right, and they actually refrigerate the butane can, making them safer as you use them Use them wrong, and you are quite literally playing with fire. I guess its like a car, a lawnmower, or power tools in that regard. Personally, I love mine. I use it carefully, usually with a cast iron skillet, and turn it off-and-on during the cooking so the pan dont get too hot. [Edit] I would just like to reiterate that this video is exceptional. I think its one of the best safety videos Ive seen on the internet.
I am very thankful to come across this video. I have owned my butane stove for four or more years, but have not used it. I purchased approximately 12 cans, not at the same time, but over time. I have stored my canisters in my closet above in one house, and stored my canisters in a bedroom closet which nobody sleeps in. I noticed you mentioned about not storing inside, but Kmart, Walmart, and other stores have them on their shelves. It would be a great disaster for a customer to have a canister explode in a store. If the stores store butane canisters on the shelves until they are purchased, I would and have been comfortable storing my canisters. So far, so good without having any explosions. I have not checked to see if my canisters have CRV or the blue ring. All I knew was to purchase the canisters brand as my butane stove. Your video also had me reading many of the comments. I live in the southern Gulf coast area less than a mile from the beaches. I have a huge umbrella if I decide to go on the beach or in a park. Much love to a commenter about being in the sunlight. Also, much love to another commenter about cold temperatures. It is always best to be safety first, and most definitely important to read both the butane stove instructions and the butane canister instructions. Also, thanks for mentioning using proper size pots and pans. That safety tip was an upfront safety warning and tip for me. I hope and pray everyone that has a butane stove or planning on purchasing one, check out your TH-cam video or any other videos first. I did not do all the research on previous owners, but only focused on the various brands. I guess the companies that make and sell canisters without the CRV or the blue ring have other things in mind. Thanks to all that read my comment. I am glad to be part of a group of people that have the same things and interests.
Thank you. I have been using one on and off for years during my bedridden situation and I always thought about the dangers of it. I try not to cook on the highest setting. I use cast iron on a simple carnivore diet now so I dont have to use it much or long any more. And I also suggest people never leaving in on high and walking away from it for a long time. I thank God for it because it's so convenient for many different scenarios. I'm a young man that can't do much of anything for my family right now but I'm am a prepper and they are not. so having this gives me a little more relief that in case of anything they will be able to use it along with the other things I store. They look down on it now but that's ok. Hopefully they won't ever need it like I do before I can get to the stove again. And when that happens I'm skipping the stove and going outside to cook on a open fire lol. God bless in Christ Jesus Yeshua HaMashia for it is written; Jeremiah 29:11 New International Version 11 For I know the plans(A) I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper(B) you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future Amen
Thank you for taking the time to post this. I immediately went and looked at the canisters I purchase locally and they are indeed CRV type. Great information!
As a rule, I always use mine outdoors only. As an additional precaution, I wrapped my canister with strip of aluminum foil prior to inserting it into the unit to isolate from heat since there is not much insulation between canister and burner. Do not use for extended period, allow it to cool down between uses.
It’s not a problem. I watched some of these videos and I was all bugged out but then after I got a stove I learned that the butane cans actually get cold because when the fuel releases it’s just like refrigerant in fact many of the new stoves have a metal plate that attempts to transfer heat to the can because it gets TOO COLD!!!
SUPER appreciative for your effort to make this informative video. I am an EX-pat with ten years in the Philippines. There are literally hundreds of variation of these neat little stoves offered for sale here. A recent plan I had was to purchase a quantity of stoves either from Korea or Japan to give as gifts to family. NONE of the information you provided is ever listed with the on-line sales promotions. When you think about it, pan sizing (no overlap on top on the fuel cylinder) only makes sense. I do have a couple of fuel cylinders in stock for use with a small torch. The labeling is different than back home in the US as you demonstrated. I was pleased to see a locally produced brand of fuel cartridge is prominently labeled RVR in a bold circle with information on what "Rim Vent Release" system is all about and how it functions. There is no blue line or dye around the rim. I will absolutely ask any on-line seller if there offerings are also labeled with the RVR symbol. My guess is that fuel canisters from Japan and Korea will be so labeled but again, ask first and avoid any return problems.
You should check out the 'NJ NSD-11 Portable Gas Stove Single Burner Camping Cooker Indoor LPG' Obviously not as portable as those Butane can stoves, but it is such great quality.
I had an incident where the wind was blowing and I surrounded a camp stove with a foldable aluminum windbreak (designed and sold for this purpose). The windbreak caused a build up of heat and melted or overheated something inside the stove. The burner started to *violently* flame up and caught the food on fire. Fearing an explosion, I quickly soaked a bath towel and threw it over the fire. It extinguished the burner flame and no explosion. I still use butane stoves but with a new level of caution and respect.
I am new to camping and considering one of these stoves. However, safety was a big factor for me and I was scared to buy/use one. Between you and one other content creator, I now feel that I have enough information to be sure to use this camp stove safely. I really appreciate you putting this video together!
I think part of this is due to the design of the stoves. The cheaper stoves made with cheaper and thinner materials are more likely to sink heat to the canister. I have a pretty high quality Iwatani burner, and the cans are usually cold when I pull them out after using them for a while, and I've had non-CRV cans before and used an entire pack without issue.
curious on which Iwatani burner you have. I was looking into the highly rated 35FW, and that model has a mechanism which helps to warm the can to allow for full use of all the butane.
Actually they have a little piece of metal that surrounds the burner and lays underneath the can to heat it slightly. A really cold can, from my understanding , will not let all the fuel out so they made these little warming shelves.
I have recently bought a nice cheap stove. I was amazed to think the can is very near burner. Surely a layer of fire/heat proof wadding could protect it to some extent. AND Make sure the pan holder can only take a smaller pan.
I just bought a portable butane stove with six cans from Amazon I did try it it works nice but I didn’t know about the RCV thing until I watched your video I checked them right away they all have that blue line on the top but no “RCV”written on them I’ll take this precious information in account whenever I buy new fuel canisters thank you so much !
This is apsolutely necessary for everyone using this type of portable stove, to follow the life saving instructions, so concisely expressed by your in this video, thank you so much, you've saved someones life. I salute you.
Just brought a foreign brand from a local farmers market. Glad I saw your video so I won't be using it for what I thought. Unfortunately I can't return it 😕 but I'm sure it will come in handy. Will use with caution.
Thank you so so much. I just noticed I do not have CRV on my canisters. I will take them to the fire department to dispose of them. I love you accent and it’s a delight to listen to you. 🥰
Thank you for the excellent presentation regarding butane safety. Based on the information I called Coleman about their product which has the blue ring, but not the safety logo. Coleman stated their butane product can has the CRV, indicated by the blue ring.
Another thing to keep in mind is these stoves do not work well in cold weather. At a couple degrees above freezing, they stop working altogether. That's because the butane fuel has a vaporizing point of several degrees above freezing. At & below that temperature, it will not gasify to feed the stove.
You neglected that the newer safety devices could include a Triple Seamed Rim (TSR) and Rim Vent Release (RVR). Sterno and others, in addition to using CRV, use a Temperature Sensing Valve (TSV) safety device if the canister is over heated. The cans will be labeled as such.
Great info. CRV is not the omly name for vented can. Sterno brand fuel cartridge has an RVR label (over pressure release rim vent release} if you check the rim of the can you will three small lines spaced around the rim. these are the vents. Can has no colored paint on the rim. Coleman cartridge has the label not listed but has greenish blue paint on the top with the vents being visable. Gas one cartridges now have the label TSR on them (Triple seaming rim vent release) You can see the groupings of three vents around the top of the cartridges, but no colored paint.. Looks like the makers have seen the light.
Thank you. I will be more diligent with inspecting the can and keeping it in an area away from heat. I had no idea. Fortunately my pan is 6 inches. You may have saved many lives by posting this.
Excellent info... I bought a 4 canister pack at the Asian Market yesterday.... I saw the blue line but had to search for CRV which I found among the instructions written in Chinese.... 👍
So glad that you explained this precautionary measure, because I was just thinking about buying one of these stovetops. I've never used propane anything because I've just always been afraid to use propane...just hearing rumors about the dangers if don't know how to use it. I've never taken the time to trust and really learn how to use propane. Now I feel more confident about trying to use it.
There's another issue with these stoves. I have an older stove that's not affected but newer stoves(at least some) have a piece of metal under the flame that continues through and goes under the fuel can. This for wintertime use because the fuel cans tend to freeze up. I'd bend that piece down away from the flame so it can't wick the heat to the fuel can. Very nice to learn about the CRV issue.. cheers!
You really have NO IDEA of what you're talking about. That heat transfer strip was specially designed to keep the cannister from freezing which is exactly what they do as they release fuel for the stove. Before this new design the last 30 minutes of fuel slowed down dramatically so much that you'd have to take the cannister out and warm it up. This video was mostly fear mongering since many users of butane powered stoves/heaters are nomads that live in vehicles than NEVER have had these units EXPLODE!!!
@@micjam1986 , LOL, you can't take the truth that you're actually talking about doing a modification that the manufacturer did to improve the stove. God, I pitty your husband if you're married!!!
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I am very glad that I ran across this video. I've had one of these stoves for a number of years and never knew or heard anything about the CRV Certification. While I don't recommend this but I've used mine while Duck Hunting in a Boat..! I'd used it in a permanent Ground Blind many times to make a hot breakfast with awesome results. But the Boat Blind was a tad... tricky. We got it done and everyone including Ace, our Black Labrador Retriever enjoyed hot Sausage, Egg & Cheese Biscuits during a lull in the Hunting. Thanks for spreading such important information. 👍
Your point are Spot-On. GOOD THAT YOU USED THE WORD EXPLODES. Oftentimes people think it will simply Catch Fire 🔥 but that's a common Myth many people do believe. Having a Fire Extinguisher is good in most situations (if they can find or operate it) BUT IN AN EXPLOSION THEY DO VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE FIREBALL DURING THE ACTUAL EXPLOSION. MICRO SECONDS COUNT and most of us are NEVER FULL-ON READY for such a potentially deadly event, especially when it's directly infront of us unfolding.
I wish the butane nuzzle faced away from the operator when in use. I turn the whole unit away from me, but aware that safety can be a concern. These sort of devices were very popular in Korea and actually part of the experience for a large number of Korean restaurants at the table that you were seated at. (20 years ago now)
WOW.. I had no idea those can explode. I've noticed and wondered about the blue ring on top.. I love using the stove to make my cowboy coffee.. I just bought 2, 3 pack of Butain canisters form the swap meet last weekend and thinking I was getting a great deal.. Now I can wait to get home and check to see if the have the CRV label.. Thank you so much.. You might of saved me from alot of healing.. Lol
Thank you for sharing this. I bought one yesterday and used it yesterday with a a large pan. I think your video was a forewarning to me. Thank you again subbed.
Wonderful safety tips. THANK YOU!!! I bought one of these stoves several months ago, but have yet to buy the gas canisters for it. Now I know an important safety feature I need to look for on the canisters, as well as the size of the cooking pans I should use.
Good information and thanks to you I just checked my cans and all of them are the safe ones. Been using my backpacking stoves for Hurricanes and decide to get a couple of these for the wife ( & myself ) to use for power outages. Basically for the ease of operation and identical stove top cooking.
I just took a look at a few butane cans that I have and of course they don't have the CRV indication on them. But they do have the blue ring. I'll just be extra careful when using them. Thank you for this video!
Did you ever have any problems? I’ve got the same deal where the can has the blue ring but not the CRV indication, but it’s Coleman brand and my stove is Coleman so if I had to guess it’s probably fine.
Thank you for this valuable information! I have been researching about portable gas stoves and it's fuel because my daughter wants one for Christmas. However, I'm so worried about it exploding or leaking. I never knew about the CRV. This is very helpful for my decision making. Thank you so much!
Always read the labels, and read the instructions. Excellent! 👍 👍 So remember : CRV does not mean confortable for Recreative Vehicles 😁😁😁. Xoxo from Argentina! 👍 👍 👍
Explosions using portable butane stove also caused by high temperature, minimize setting the the flame on high for too long. Let us consider the design of the stove as it uses thin layer of materials or thin metal plates and is not intended for heavy duty use. Once it reached the maximum temperature recommended by the butane manufacturer on the label, it may explode.
Thank you for this, I love cooking in my living room with my stove, I have had one for since I can remember, and on two occasions my gas blew into a flame, as I thought it might be the table I had water to throw over it....I tried KERAN KING...I have never ever had this problem before...x
If you look carefully at the can which does not have CRV (the one on the left) you will see markings on the rim (typically 12 groups of 3 little indentations). This is another safety features called Rim Vent Release or RVR. I usually get the cans with triple seaming rim vent release.
Thanks, I just purchased my first butane stove and two cans of butane fuel. They have blue lines, and the indentions, but no CRV on the back of the can. I'm a little nervous about using the stove.
I've never trusted butane canisters for cooking. I always use propane. I try to make sure I have what's needed to use the 15-20 pound cylinders as they are much more cost effective. I do keep a few 1 pound bottles just in case. But I steer clear of butane stoves. Why? Because butane canisters are made of thin sheet metal. Propane bottles and tanks are made much thicker and can handle the pressure better. Just my two cents.
Does the can on the left have a different type of safety release perhaps? I know I have Woods butane fuel canisters that don't have the CRV label. Canadian Tire has said they are protected with a Triple Seamed Rim Vent Release. They said "This device will automatically releases gas when the inner pressure reaches a critical level, alleviating the possibility of explosions." And when I looked this up online, I learned that the three hatched lines along the top of the rim (which (I also see in the can you have on the left) are the vents where the excess gas pressure would be released.
One simple thing you can do help divert the heat some, is cover the gas compartment with heavy duty aluminum foil, shiny side up. I have the wall behind my woodstove covered with insulated self-sticking foil used in the HVAC industry on ductworks. It never gets hot.
I added a reminder label to my canister lid. Checked my spare butane cylinders and discovered some with and some without the safety valve. Important difference! Thank you for pointing this out.
Ye I get you. When you use a wide bottom pan. The flames spread out wider. Closer to the cannister compartment. Creating heat in the cannister. Then pressure builds and thats when a possibility for an explosion can happen. So not ideal for a wide pan but narrower ones.
The heat from the wide pan can reach the gas compartment. Building pressure. Cooking and use of the stove has to be done under a shade. With cool winds.
I have a Martin single burner a friend got me thru Amazon. It has safety release, but not sure I need matches or it ignites on its own. I finally found Coleman 8.8 oz. butane that has the blue around the top with the notch. I been so worried I would not insert can right and might blow up🙄 so looked for help and found your video. It helped me understand better what to look for. ♥️🙏♥️👍
The first time I ever bought a stove was a Coleman and that was back in 1999 and it exploded on my first use, and Flames were shooting up 10 or 12 ft high and I was screaming fire fire in the middle of the night and nobody came to my rescue. I was panicking thinking I was going to set a whole Forest on fire. Then the next morning the Father and Son came by and said that they had heard me and saw the Flames but they weren't worried. Last night I just bought my second stove and it's a Sterno butane.
This is a great safety video. I just purchased an Outbound single burner butane burner. I purchased some Woodland butane canisters and they did have the relief valves you described in your video. Thanks so much for sharing.
I think you may have just saved me from hurting myself. I was going to use an oversized 15" pan on this, and I think that would have been bad. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
It’s not a problem. I watched some of these videos and I was all bugged out but then after I got a stove I learned that the butane cans actually get cold because when the fuel releases it’s just like refrigerant in fact many of the new stoves have a metal plate that attempts to transfer heat to the can because it gets TOO COLD!!!
I believe there’s now an option to use different larger canisters and an adapter nozzle to keep the tank “off site”, but that’s more about the touching the compartment part.
Hi I accidently knocked over a new pack of butane gas canister. It laid sideways but it didnt have a big impact cos it dropped on a soft surface. im worried it will explode cos i read it should be kept upright. should I just buy a new pack? I did immediately put it back upright
This is very good information. CRV heat and pressure in the cans. Pan covers butane🚫 and cooking when the can can get 🔥 hot. Last but the best. Eggs really 🤤😢 did you have to cook eggs😭🤤🤤🤤😮💨🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
lol I had this portable stove for few months haven't used it and just got some canisters for it. Some have the blue on it and both of them don't have that CRV. Also I didn't know I could turn knob all the way to ignite fire after all this time haha. Good information. I will now be getting canisters with that marking.
Hi there..was told by Home Hardware Martin butane stoves were recalled 2021. I bought one from them today.2024 /May. Your video was dead on about the issues. Cans were crved to solve explosion issues and I even knew Not to use an oversize pan..thats' just common sense. If you use an oversized pan the flame spreads too far underneath the pan causing plastic to melt and pressure to build up in the can. Being a 3 year old video my stove looks exactly like yours. The issue really wasn't the stove at all..just misuse and faulty cans. Thanks for caring. Appreciate the explanation very much.
I have a potable butane stove and I use it a lot, it cost me almost 80 to 100 dlls, I don't remember, this is from the Iwatani 15000 BTU brand, it's Japanese and it has a device that automatically disconnects the cartridge when it heats up or sea It is designed with an automatic safety shut-off device to ensure that you can use it with confidence. Heating is what causes them to explode. I use it a lot because my induction cooker has a very small burner and it doesn't work for me, I use it in my wok and for that I need a lot of heat (15000), but cooking with a wok is very fast, 5 minutes and it's already cooked. It also depends on the pan you use, a very large one with high heat will reach the area where the cartridge is and will heat up. There have already been several times that due to my mistake, it has been automatically disconnected and that makes me happy, I just change to a new cartridge and take more precautions. I buy the cartridges in Asian stores, they are much cheaper 4 x $5.00 dlls, because they do not use it for camping but to put it on the table and cook there, I do not know if the security device is in the American brands.
This is really an awesome bit of information for those of us camping in this brutal heat. I will now travel with my butane in a somewhat cooler controlled climate, thank you for sharing.
Just read the can and make certain it has the pressure release technology. And don't have a large surfaced frying pan that pushes the flame over the area of the gas bottle location. It's not like it will immediately explode if you do. If you ever place a pan out pot on high the flame and heat will push outwards. Naturally the pan deflects the flame and it usually pushes heat up the sides of pots and frying pans. So just be aware that using a large frying pan or huge pot is a no go on these little cookers. And maybe never turn it up to full bore to manage the heat source.
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Most portable gas burner explosions are caused by using cooking tools that are too large. When the cooking tool covers the gas storage area, the hot heat is transferred to the gas can, which expands with the heat, so it swells up and....explodes. So it's important not to cover the gas storage area when cooking.
Mine came with no instructions. How do I know if it is butane or propane?
@@niania7022 The green propane cans are 16 oz while the butane cans are 8 oz. A propane can will not fit into the compartment.
@@andybaker1784 Thank you!
Oh had I wish we’d known this could happen, unfortunately I was sitting right next to the can when it exploded and the whole left side of my body was burned, I was in and out of hospital for about a year dealing with infections and new burns every single day. Who knew such a little can could cause such a massive explosion 😢
Exactly. Most butane gas has this as a warning. And some people still do it! I use just the right cooking tool not ones that can transfer heat on my butane canister. And I check the temperature of my canister sometimes but it gets like cold it has that thing so it doesn't get too hot and explode.
Very important. Over the last years an article has been circulating on several German websites about how to use these safely.
The size of the pan is the one thing, the other is that as soon as the stove is turned off, you should remove the pot/pan, as leaving it on there could also make the canister overheat. Apparently while cooking, the butane changing from liquid to gas produces cold, so that the canister self-cools to a certain degree. So when that stops, the hot pan or pot on the stove could be too much heat.
Can you immediately remove the cannister once you finish cooking or do you have to leave it in there until used up?
@@rebal1681 This sort of gas cartridge does not have to stay in until empty. As a matter of fact, the user manual of my gas stove (Kemper 104987 smart) says to remove the gas canister when the stove is not used for a while.
Other sources mention removing the cartridge when storing or transporting the stove.
So you can unlock and remove it directly after cooking (and then preferably store it upright until next used).
i have been using my iwatani every single day for over three years. i never take it out when ive finshed cooking.
@@bambubombon I'm thinking of buying an Iwatani. Do you leave the canister indefinitely until it is empty? It doesn't leak over time while plugged in?
@@Mr-E. HI Mr E.. I can confirm I have never had any problems leaving the cannister in. I am now using a different model of Iwatani and I'm also very happy. It's a very good brand, totally safe if you leave teh cannister connected on a day to day basis. If you see the soup video on my channel you will see an Iwatani stove working. The model I have now is more modern, with a different design, but just as good. I recommend the product 100%. If you have any other questions, please get back to me.. Incidentally I will be publishing a new video about my new Iwatain soon, in case you're interested. Take care!
Great information! the most important point she said in the video, which is probably the primary reason for those canisters (with or without a safety valve) to explode is people using a pot or a skillet that is TOO LARGE for the stove, which causes the area where the canister sits to heat up, causing the pressure to build up in the gas canister which later might explode.
Always read what is the largest thing you can cook with on that stove, and never think you can exceed it - I'd even say, if the stove is built (per instructions or said on the box) for a max 25cm diameter skillet, I would use a max 20-21cm diameter skillet on it, just to be on the safe side
In the safety manual the max diameter stated is indeed 20cm.
What about the weight as a skillet? Can I fry chicken?
@@faithmoore7520 Don't take my word for it, but I think that as long as the skillet is not weighting like 20kg, you could use it, as long as the diameter does not exceed the max allowed diameter for your camping stove. I'd also say it depends on how robust your camping stove is, I have seen some that were very light weight and were not meant to do a lot of work, and some heavier duty camping stoves, that were made so that people would cook on them entire meals for days.
David e : For those of us who use inches....20cm is about 7.5 inches
You're welcome
@@davideyt1242 Or...7 7/8 exactly.
Thank you so much for posting this video. Who knows how many lives might be saved because you were thoughtful enough to share this information. I know of someone who was just burned severely when one of these exploded. She was completely engulfed in flames, if there had not been people close by who were able to put the fire out and cut her clothes off of her, she wouldn't have survived. She is now in the burn unit of a local hospital and faces a long and painful recovery.
Oh no! That is terrible. Prayers for her.
@@RainbowGardens Thank you for your prayers.
I immediately went to my shed and checked my fuel canisters. So glad I seen this video and so glad all my fuel cans have the release ports. You'll never know how many people you might have saved from a really bad experience.
Did she?... how many news reports have you heard of these canisters randomly exploding in just hot weather?... I've never heard of it myself... and wouldn't there be a Consumer Safety Bulletin put out on it?... both of those "exploded" images look kind of sketchy, like they were set up to explode....
Halleluyah I thank Our Heavenly Father and Savior for leading me here!
Great advice..I saw one of these canisters/stoves explode on a beach in South UK a few years ago.
Fortunately it rocketed about 20 feet in the air in a fireball and didn't engulf the kids or parents sitting around it cooking!
They were obviously very shaken and packed up straight away and left..no injuries luckily but the experience was a lesson learned.
Oh there were injuries alright. What you don't know is I was the father of that family. We ended up driving off a cliff due to my wife's crappy driving and kids fighting in the back. Boooooooooo!
These stoves can be very safe to use, but care should be taken using them.
The cylinder has to get very hot to burst
A CRV can stop the tank from actually exploding but it achieves this by releasing all its fuel at once.
If the stove is lit, this can result in a large fire ball.
Don't let the CRV label make you think there's no danger .
I just figured that it converts your fireball to a flame thrower. That way it's only terrible in one direction instead of all around the stove
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST In Australia it is compulsory to have both these systems, but some importers sneak in uncertified fuel canisters.
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST Whichever Chinese company makes the stoves for sale in Australia. By law they must have an overpressure safety gas shut off and an
overpressure safety canister ejection shut off, and all canisters must have Rim vent safety overpressure release.
I have a question that I can't find the answer to, I'm a lazy reader. What should I do if I just boiled water on this stove to make sure my parents could use it and now that their power is back on, the can has plenty of fuel left in it? Should I pull the can out, mark it and store it with the new ones or does the can store in the stove safely? Thanks
@@l6j8b32You might want to put her @TH-cam name in the beginning of your post to hopefully ensure she gets it.
Not only informative but that flip on those eggs was Gordon Ramsey smooth. Thank you for sharing this information, it was a pleasure to watch, learn and listen to your soothing voice.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@RainbowGardens It was a pleasure. Just a quick question if you don't mind, what type of frying pan was that, it looks like a perfect fit for the burner.
@@MusicforMe123 Apparently she minded.
@@someguy2972 Doesn't matter... I found it.
@@MusicforMe123 So I presume you haven't blown yourself up with one of these stoves? I got one a few months ago but am yet to use it.
This is literally a life saving video! Thank you for sharing your finds and how to lookout for CRV!!!!! Thumbs up and Thank You.
Sure thing!
I just bought a Iwatani YAKIMARU II CB-SLG-2. Although it looks like food will be going on the top and not a pan, this still feels to me that you saved my life by introducing the CRV label I knew nothing about. I was on my way to the hardware store to get gas, and now know that I will only purchase canisters with the CRV label. Many blessings to you and yours for posting this!
If the difference between price of something questionable and decent is an extra $3, we both know which one to get.
They should not be allowed to sell it without CRV! Thank you for this very important video!
i agree
Yes I did not know about this, I bought 100 of them canisters without the CRV and I can’t get a refund i either.
What is CRV?
Absolutely agree. In my youth I used to get up to all kinds of pyro shenanigans out in the garden, generally involving a bin incinerator, petrol and other flammables. (dont judge me, I was young and stupid). One time we poured a gallon of petrol into the steel bin, lit it and then threw in a full can of bug spray. When it eventually cooked off, it exploded with a thunderous bang, sent a black mushroom cloud into the air, and exploded with such force that it extinguished the damn petrol fire. It literally went off with such concussive force that it blew out/vaporised, the petrol fire.
A can of bug spray is almost identical to a can of butane regarding size, chemical energy and thermal output. I can say from first hand experience that when they cook off, its shockingly explosive.
With pipe bombs, the contents explodes and this causes the shell to expand and fracture, causing the "explosion". With cooked off fuel containers, thermal expansion of the contents causes the container to fail. ergo, explode, and THEN the flammable contents erupts outwards, igniting when it hits the heat source,. This results in a huge, outwardly expanding gas bomb. Its not thermobaric but rapidly expanding hot fuel gasses exploding outwards and hitting an ignition source sure makes for a huge, hot, dangerous explosion.
The funny thing is that these cookers, if used correctly, are largely self regulating. If you use them correctly and carefully, and dont use an over-sized pan, the butane canister stays VERY cool. Expanding gases cool down. I use mine regularly, and I always check temps, and the butane canister is usually very cold to the touch after use.
Use them right, and they actually refrigerate the butane can, making them safer as you use them
Use them wrong, and you are quite literally playing with fire.
I guess its like a car, a lawnmower, or power tools in that regard.
Personally, I love mine. I use it carefully, usually with a cast iron skillet, and turn it off-and-on during the cooking so the pan dont get too hot.
[Edit] I would just like to reiterate that this video is exceptional. I think its one of the best safety videos Ive seen on the internet.
I agree this actually happened to me!! thanks for sharing..
I am very thankful to come across this video. I have owned my butane stove for four or more years, but have not used it. I purchased approximately 12 cans, not at the same time, but over time. I have stored my canisters in my closet above in one house, and stored my canisters in a bedroom closet which nobody sleeps in. I noticed you mentioned about not storing inside, but Kmart, Walmart, and other stores have them on their shelves. It would be a great disaster for a customer to have a canister explode in a store. If the stores store butane canisters on the shelves until they are purchased, I would and have been comfortable storing my canisters. So far, so good without having any explosions. I have not checked to see if my canisters have CRV or the blue ring. All I knew was to purchase the canisters brand as my butane stove. Your video also had me reading many of the comments. I live in the southern Gulf coast area less than a mile from the beaches. I have a huge umbrella if I decide to go on the beach or in a park. Much love to a commenter about being in the sunlight. Also, much love to another commenter about cold temperatures. It is always best to be safety first, and most definitely important to read both the butane stove instructions and the butane canister instructions. Also, thanks for mentioning using proper size pots and pans. That safety tip was an upfront safety warning and tip for me. I hope and pray everyone that has a butane stove or planning on purchasing one, check out your TH-cam video or any other videos first. I did not do all the research on previous owners, but only focused on the various brands. I guess the companies that make and sell canisters without the CRV or the blue ring have other things in mind. Thanks to all that read my comment. I am glad to be part of a group of people that have the same things and interests.
I store my fuel canisters in a fireproof bag, usually used for batteries, for peace of mind
@@et8603 - a 'vented' bag, of course.
Thank you. I have been using one on and off for years during my bedridden situation and I always thought about the dangers of it. I try not to cook on the highest setting. I use cast iron on a simple carnivore diet now so I dont have to use it much or long any more. And I also suggest people never leaving in on high and walking away from it for a long time. I thank God for it because it's so convenient for many different scenarios. I'm a young man that can't do much of anything for my family right now but I'm am a prepper and they are not. so having this gives me a little more relief that in case of anything they will be able to use it along with the other things I store. They look down on it now but that's ok. Hopefully they won't ever need it like I do before I can get to the stove again. And when that happens I'm skipping the stove and going outside to cook on a open fire lol. God bless in Christ Jesus Yeshua HaMashia for it is written;
Jeremiah 29:11
New International Version
11 For I know the plans(A) I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper(B) you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future
Amen
True, leaving it on high for a long period might pose a problem too, I would think...
You must to upgrade that butain
Amen
Christ I was scared of the Russians 60 years ago when I was seven and I'm still scared of them...but don't worry too much.
@@FirstLast-ml7yf The Russians are gonna getchya!
Thank you for taking the time to post this. I immediately went and looked at the canisters I purchase locally and they are indeed CRV type. Great information!
I just bought a Coleman stove and had NO IDEA that this was a thing! Thank you for putting the info out there!
Me too now I need to check my cans.
Me too
Haven't found any butane yet locally. Thanks for the explanation.
As a rule, I always use mine outdoors only. As an additional precaution, I wrapped my canister with strip of aluminum foil prior to inserting it into the unit to isolate from heat since there is not much insulation between canister and burner. Do not use for extended period, allow it to cool down between uses.
It’s not a problem. I watched some of these videos and I was all bugged out but then after I got a stove I learned that the butane cans actually get cold because when the fuel releases it’s just like refrigerant in fact many of the new stoves have a metal plate that attempts to transfer heat to the can because it gets TOO COLD!!!
SUPER appreciative for your effort to make this informative video. I am an EX-pat with ten years in the Philippines. There are literally hundreds of variation of these neat little stoves offered for sale here. A recent plan I had was to purchase a quantity of stoves either from Korea or Japan to give as gifts to family. NONE of the information you provided is ever listed with the on-line sales promotions. When you think about it, pan sizing (no overlap on top on the fuel cylinder) only makes sense.
I do have a couple of fuel cylinders in stock for use with a small torch. The labeling is different than back home in the US as you demonstrated. I was pleased to see a locally produced brand of fuel cartridge is prominently labeled RVR in a bold circle with information on what "Rim Vent Release" system is all about and how it functions. There is no blue line or dye around the rim. I will absolutely ask any on-line seller if there offerings are also labeled with the RVR symbol. My guess is that fuel canisters from Japan and Korea will be so labeled but again, ask first and avoid any return problems.
You should check out the 'NJ NSD-11 Portable Gas Stove Single Burner Camping Cooker Indoor LPG' Obviously not as portable as those Butane can stoves, but it is such great quality.
I had an incident where the wind was blowing and I surrounded a camp stove with a foldable aluminum windbreak (designed and sold for this purpose).
The windbreak caused a build up of heat and melted or overheated something inside the stove. The burner started to *violently* flame up and caught the food on fire. Fearing an explosion, I quickly soaked a bath towel and threw it over the fire. It extinguished the burner flame and no explosion. I still use butane stoves but with a new level of caution and respect.
Oh my!!! Thanks for sharing your story!
I am new to camping and considering one of these stoves. However, safety was a big factor for me and I was scared to buy/use one. Between you and one other content creator, I now feel that I have enough information to be sure to use this camp stove safely. I really appreciate you putting this video together!
Yeah.... read about my experience!
What was the other information if you don't mind?
I think part of this is due to the design of the stoves. The cheaper stoves made with cheaper and thinner materials are more likely to sink heat to the canister. I have a pretty high quality Iwatani burner, and the cans are usually cold when I pull them out after using them for a while, and I've had non-CRV cans before and used an entire pack without issue.
curious on which Iwatani burner you have. I was looking into the highly rated 35FW, and that model has a mechanism which helps to warm the can to allow for full use of all the butane.
Actually they have a little piece of metal that surrounds the burner and lays underneath the can to heat it slightly. A really cold can, from my understanding , will not let all the fuel out so they made these little warming shelves.
I have recently bought a nice cheap stove. I was amazed to think the can is very near burner. Surely a layer of fire/heat proof wadding could protect it to some extent. AND Make sure the pan holder can only take a smaller pan.
Thank you. This is very valuable to know to use a smaller pan so not to get the canister hot. Much appreciated ❤
Glad it was helpful!
I just bought a portable butane stove with six cans from Amazon I did try it it works nice but I didn’t know about the RCV thing until I watched your video I checked them right away they all have that blue line on the top but no “RCV”written on them I’ll take this precious information in account whenever I buy new fuel canisters thank you so much !
Thank you so much for this! I live in a hurricane prone area and I have to use these potentially every year. Never heard of this. Life-saving advice 🙏
This is apsolutely necessary for everyone using this type of portable stove, to follow the life saving instructions, so concisely expressed by your in this video, thank you so much, you've saved someones life. I salute you.
Glad it was helpful!
Just brought a foreign brand from a local farmers market. Glad I saw your video so I won't be using it for what I thought. Unfortunately I can't return it 😕 but I'm sure it will come in handy. Will use with caution.
Thank you so much for this! I'm new to using portable stoves so im looking for ways to prevent an accident from happening. This is so helpful!
@Amie Lynn we can do it ladies 💃🏼
Thank you so so much. I just noticed I do not have CRV on my canisters. I will take them to the fire department to dispose of them. I love you accent and it’s a delight to listen to you. 🥰
Excellent!
Thank you for the excellent presentation regarding butane safety. Based on the information I called Coleman about their product which has the blue ring, but not the safety logo. Coleman stated their butane product can has the CRV, indicated by the blue ring.
Thanks for sharing!
Nice! Nothing like a coleman product
Another thing to keep in mind is these stoves do not work well in cold weather. At a couple degrees above freezing, they stop working altogether. That's because the butane fuel has a vaporizing point of several degrees above freezing. At & below that temperature, it will not gasify to feed the stove.
Thanks for the info!
You neglected that the newer safety devices could include a Triple Seamed Rim (TSR) and Rim Vent Release (RVR). Sterno and others, in addition to using CRV, use a Temperature Sensing Valve (TSV) safety device if the canister is over heated. The cans will be labeled as such.
Thank you
Great information. Thanks.
Great info. CRV is not the omly name for vented can. Sterno brand fuel cartridge has an RVR label (over pressure release rim vent release} if you check the rim of the can you will three small lines spaced around the rim. these are the vents. Can has no colored paint on the rim.
Coleman cartridge has the label not listed but has greenish blue paint on the top with the vents being visable.
Gas one cartridges now have the label TSR on them (Triple seaming rim vent release) You can see the groupings of three vents around the top of the cartridges, but no colored paint..
Looks like the makers have seen the light.
Thanks for the tips!
Thank you. I will be more diligent with inspecting the can and keeping it in an area away from heat. I had no idea. Fortunately my pan is 6 inches. You may have saved many lives by posting this.
Excellent info...
I bought a 4 canister pack at the Asian Market yesterday....
I saw the blue line but had to search for CRV which I found among the instructions written in Chinese.... 👍
Great!
Wow! Thanks for the info about the crv rating. With all the videos I have watched on these, LOTS, not once has ANYONE mentioned that. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
So glad that you explained this precautionary measure, because I was just thinking about buying one of these stovetops. I've never used propane anything because I've just always been afraid to use propane...just hearing rumors about the dangers if don't know how to use it. I've never taken the time to trust and really learn how to use propane. Now I feel more confident about trying to use it.
There's another issue with these stoves. I have an older stove that's not affected but newer stoves(at least some) have a piece of metal under the flame that continues through and goes under the fuel can. This for wintertime use because the fuel cans tend to freeze up. I'd bend that piece down away from the flame so it can't wick the heat to the fuel can. Very nice to learn about the CRV issue.. cheers!
You really have NO IDEA of what you're talking about. That heat transfer strip was specially designed to keep the cannister from freezing which is exactly what they do as they release fuel for the stove. Before this new design the last 30 minutes of fuel slowed down dramatically so much that you'd have to take the cannister out and warm it up.
This video was mostly fear mongering since many users of butane powered stoves/heaters are nomads that live in vehicles than NEVER have had these units EXPLODE!!!
@@JoeMicalizziMPC nothing you said that I differ from about the stove.. maybe you just felt like being a douche today.. cheers!
@@micjam1986 , LOL, you can't take the truth that you're actually talking about doing a modification that the manufacturer did to improve the stove. God, I pitty your husband if you're married!!!
@@JoeMicalizziMPCearlier stoves of this type don't have the mod.. yup royal douche!( oh I see you deleted your douche comment )
You speak so well. What an amazing accent.
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I am very glad that I ran across this video. I've had one of these stoves for a number of years and never knew or heard anything about the CRV Certification. While I don't recommend this but I've used mine while Duck Hunting in a Boat..! I'd used it in a permanent Ground Blind many times to make a hot breakfast with awesome results. But the Boat Blind was a tad... tricky. We got it done and everyone including Ace, our Black Labrador Retriever enjoyed hot Sausage, Egg & Cheese Biscuits during a lull in the Hunting. Thanks for spreading such important information. 👍
Hunters are paedos
Your point are Spot-On. GOOD THAT YOU USED THE WORD EXPLODES. Oftentimes people think it will simply Catch Fire 🔥 but that's a common Myth many people do believe. Having a Fire Extinguisher is good in most situations (if they can find or operate it) BUT IN AN EXPLOSION THEY DO VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE FIREBALL DURING THE ACTUAL EXPLOSION. MICRO SECONDS COUNT and most of us are NEVER FULL-ON READY for such a potentially deadly event, especially when it's directly infront of us unfolding.
I wish the butane nuzzle faced away from the operator when in use. I turn the whole unit away from me, but aware that safety can be a concern. These sort of devices were very popular in Korea and actually part of the experience for a large number of Korean restaurants at the table that you were seated at. (20 years ago now)
WOW.. I had no idea those can explode. I've noticed and wondered about the blue ring on top.. I love using the stove to make my cowboy coffee.. I just bought 2, 3 pack of Butain canisters form the swap meet last weekend and thinking I was getting a great deal.. Now I can wait to get home and check to see if the have the CRV label.. Thank you so much.. You might of saved me from alot of healing.. Lol
Thank you for sharing this. I bought one yesterday and used it yesterday with a a large pan. I think your video was a forewarning to me. Thank you again subbed.
Thank you! Bought a Choice 2 burner propane stove- didn’t have any clue as to how to use it or safety guidelines. This video is so helpful!!!
Wonderful safety tips. THANK YOU!!! I bought one of these stoves several months ago, but have yet to buy the gas canisters for it. Now I know an important safety feature I need to look for on the canisters, as well as the size of the cooking pans I should use.
You are so welcome!
I found some of the CRV canisters on Amazon and pinned it above.
@@RainbowGardens Thanks! I've added them to my shopping list on Amazon!
Honda once again has proved to have good quality .
I'm still looking for a Vtech stove to cook my ramen faster
Thank you for Making this video. You may have saved the lives of several innocent people
Good information and thanks to you I just checked my cans and all of them are the safe ones. Been using my backpacking stoves for Hurricanes and decide to get a couple of these for the wife ( & myself ) to use for power outages. Basically for the ease of operation and identical stove top cooking.
I'm so glad I saw this video. I will make sure I don't try to use large pots that could over heat the gas cans.
This is so helpful! I have been thinking about buying a table top burner and I had no idea to look for this.
I just took a look at a few butane cans that I have and of course they don't have the CRV indication on them. But they do have the blue ring. I'll just be extra careful when using them. Thank you for this video!
Did you ever have any problems? I’ve got the same deal where the can has the blue ring but not the CRV indication, but it’s Coleman brand and my stove is Coleman so if I had to guess it’s probably fine.
@@fishymuff No issues yet.
Thank you for this valuable information! I have been researching about portable gas stoves and it's fuel because my daughter wants one for Christmas. However, I'm so worried about it exploding or leaking. I never knew about the CRV. This is very helpful for my decision making. Thank you so much!
Hello Nicole 🌹💐👋
How are you doing today?
Always read the labels, and read the instructions. Excellent! 👍 👍 So remember : CRV does not mean confortable for Recreative Vehicles 😁😁😁. Xoxo from Argentina! 👍 👍 👍
Explosions using portable butane stove also caused by high temperature, minimize setting the the flame on high for too long. Let us consider the design of the stove as it uses thin layer of materials or thin metal plates and is not intended for heavy duty use. Once it reached the maximum temperature recommended by the butane manufacturer on the label, it may explode.
good advice. crv and 10 inch max pan.
Thank you!
Thank you for this, I love cooking in my living room with my stove, I have had one for since I can remember, and on two occasions my gas blew into a flame, as I thought it might be the table I had water to throw over it....I tried KERAN KING...I have never ever had this problem before...x
Thank you for bringing this up!!! I'm more conscious about it. You may have saved me and others from being injured or killed.
If you look carefully at the can which does not have CRV (the one on the left) you will see markings on the rim (typically 12 groups of 3 little indentations). This is another safety features called Rim Vent Release or RVR. I usually get the cans with triple seaming rim vent release.
Thanks, I just purchased my first butane stove and two cans of butane fuel. They have blue lines, and the indentions, but no CRV on the back of the can. I'm a little nervous about using the stove.
You made me feel a bit more comfortable. Thanks.
Yep 👍🏼
I've never trusted butane canisters for cooking. I always use propane. I try to make sure I have what's needed to use the 15-20 pound cylinders as they are much more cost effective. I do keep a few 1 pound bottles just in case. But I steer clear of butane stoves. Why? Because butane canisters are made of thin sheet metal. Propane bottles and tanks are made much thicker and can handle the pressure better. Just my two cents.
Great point!
Thankyou for the info. This is a lifesaver. Never knew that you should never use a larger pan.
You are so welcome!
Does the can on the left have a different type of safety release perhaps? I know I have Woods butane fuel canisters that don't have the CRV label. Canadian Tire has said they are protected with a Triple Seamed Rim Vent Release. They said "This device will automatically releases gas when the inner pressure reaches a critical level, alleviating the possibility of explosions." And when I looked this up online, I learned that the three hatched lines along the top of the rim (which (I also see in the can you have on the left) are the vents where the excess gas pressure would be released.
One simple thing you can do help divert the heat some, is cover the gas compartment with heavy duty aluminum foil, shiny side up. I have the wall behind my woodstove covered with insulated self-sticking foil used in the HVAC industry on ductworks. It never gets hot.
Great tip!
had no idea about this. Thanks. Had no knowledge of the CRV safety cans. Plan to get rid of my old ones and use your link to order the safer ones.
I added a reminder label to my canister lid. Checked my spare butane cylinders and discovered some with and some without the safety valve. Important difference! Thank you for pointing this out.
Ye I get you. When you use a wide bottom pan. The flames spread out wider. Closer to the cannister compartment. Creating heat in the cannister. Then pressure builds and thats when a possibility for an explosion can happen.
So not ideal for a wide pan but narrower ones.
The heat from the wide pan can reach the gas compartment. Building pressure. Cooking and use of the stove has to be done under a shade. With cool winds.
I have a Martin single burner a friend got me thru Amazon. It has safety release, but not sure I need matches or it ignites on its own. I finally found Coleman 8.8 oz. butane that has the blue around the top with the notch. I been so worried I would not insert can right and might blow up🙄 so looked for help and found your video. It helped me understand better what to look for. ♥️🙏♥️👍
Where did you find your cans?
I've got 4 cans that are CRV and three that aren't. Thanks for the heads up!!
The first time I ever bought a stove was a Coleman and that was back in 1999 and it exploded on my first use, and Flames were shooting up 10 or 12 ft high and I was screaming fire fire in the middle of the night and nobody came to my rescue. I was panicking thinking I was going to set a whole Forest on fire. Then the next morning the Father and Son came by and said that they had heard me and saw the Flames but they weren't worried. Last night I just bought my second stove and it's a Sterno butane.
I just checked the cans that i have and I have both. I’ve never noticed this blue rings before. Thank you for making this video!!
Glad I could help!
Great info. I just had one delivered at home. Will check the can when I get home.
Thank you for the advice. The tip about the 10.5 inch pan is worth knowing as it's probably the second thing we all look for.
This is a great safety video. I just purchased an Outbound single burner butane burner. I purchased some Woodland butane canisters and they did have the relief valves you described in your video. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you for sharing. Just bought this stove and will need to purchase canisters. Very helpful information.
I think you may have just saved me from hurting myself. I was going to use an oversized 15" pan on this, and I think that would have been bad. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
Hi! I hv a question. Shud unlock the cannister lever everytime after i use it?
It’s not a problem. I watched some of these videos and I was all bugged out but then after I got a stove I learned that the butane cans actually get cold because when the fuel releases it’s just like refrigerant in fact many of the new stoves have a metal plate that attempts to transfer heat to the can because it gets TOO COLD!!!
How you recommend storing the 8oz proppane canister in an apartment?
I believe there’s now an option to use different larger canisters and an adapter nozzle to keep the tank “off site”, but that’s more about the touching the compartment part.
Hi I accidently knocked over a new pack of butane gas canister. It laid sideways but it didnt have a big impact cos it dropped on a soft surface. im worried it will explode cos i read it should be kept upright. should I just buy a new pack? I did immediately put it back upright
Thanks for letting me know! I just bought one of these things.
Glad I could help!
Thank you for showing us to be safe using this! Going to buy CRV cans and use a smaller cook pan! 👍🏼🔥
You bet!
Thank u...can these be carried in car?
Not sure! Great question.
Great videos you share lots of safety measures thank you so much im planning to buy such type of stove
I hope this video helps you make a safe choice!
If you don't finish the bhutane can gas do you just leave it in the portable stove and turn it off?
Are you supposed to keep the canister in until the can is empty? How do you properly store these things?
Thank you so much for this information. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere else.
Glad it was helpful!
This is very good information. CRV heat and pressure in the cans. Pan covers butane🚫 and cooking when the can can get 🔥 hot. Last but the best. Eggs really 🤤😢 did you have to cook eggs😭🤤🤤🤤😮💨🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Very useful and practical info. this is one of those videos where what youa are saying makes perfect logical sense. thanks.
Very good video! To be honest, i have never thought of the risk with too large pans!!! Thank you for the wake up call!!
As an added safety precaution, I always put a wet rag over the gas compartment cover to shield it from heat.
Thank you for this safety reminder! I want to buy one but then I got scared 😂
Wow. Thanks for this. We Asian love to use these types of stove indoor for hot pots.
Our pleasure!
lol I had this portable stove for few months haven't used it and just got some canisters for it. Some have the blue on it and both of them don't have that CRV. Also I didn't know I could turn knob all the way to ignite fire after all this time haha. Good information. I will now be getting canisters with that marking.
Hi there..was told by Home Hardware Martin butane stoves were recalled 2021. I bought one from them today.2024 /May. Your video was dead on about the issues. Cans were crved to solve explosion issues and I even knew Not to use an oversize pan..thats' just common sense. If you use an oversized pan the flame spreads too far underneath the pan causing plastic to melt and pressure to build up in the can. Being a 3 year old video my stove looks exactly like yours. The issue really wasn't the stove at all..just misuse and faulty cans. Thanks for caring. Appreciate the explanation very much.
Sure thing!
I have a potable butane stove and I use it a lot, it cost me almost 80 to 100 dlls, I don't remember, this is from the Iwatani 15000 BTU brand, it's Japanese and it has a device that automatically disconnects the cartridge when it heats up or sea It is designed with an automatic safety shut-off device to ensure that you can use it with confidence. Heating is what causes them to explode. I use it a lot because my induction cooker has a very small burner and it doesn't work for me, I use it in my wok and for that I need a lot of heat (15000), but cooking with a wok is very fast, 5 minutes and it's already cooked. It also depends on the pan you use, a very large one with high heat will reach the area where the cartridge is and will heat up. There have already been several times that due to my mistake, it has been automatically disconnected and that makes me happy, I just change to a new cartridge and take more precautions. I buy the cartridges in Asian stores, they are much cheaper 4 x $5.00 dlls, because they do not use it for camping but to put it on the table and cook there, I do not know if the security device is in the American brands.
Iwatani makes the best stove. I use mine daily. I like how it pops the can when it gets hot. Then I can swap in a cool one for longer cooks.
This is really an awesome bit of information for those of us camping in this brutal heat. I will now travel with my butane in a somewhat cooler controlled climate, thank you for sharing.
Very useful info as I've just purchased one of these stoves. Thankfully my gas canisters are all of the CRV type.
Glad it was helpful!
I just got an Eureka Butane stove and I am really anxious about having this now. I would be traveling with it in a van.
Just read the can and make certain it has the pressure release technology. And don't have a large surfaced frying pan that pushes the flame over the area of the gas bottle location. It's not like it will immediately explode if you do. If you ever place a pan out pot on high the flame and heat will push outwards. Naturally the pan deflects the flame and it usually pushes heat up the sides of pots and frying pans. So just be aware that using a large frying pan or huge pot is a no go on these little cookers. And maybe never turn it up to full bore to manage the heat source.
Thanks for the tip. I have one of these atoves and didn't know this about CRV!
Although I use mine only on the rare occasions when the electrics go out, useful to have this info. Thanks!
Thank you for this very informative video I just bought one of these little stoves and all your information is really educational