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Glad you did a two-parter and included a mid movie discussion after part 1. Since "Serenity" was picked up by Paramount, FOX did not share what they owned, which is the series name Firefly, the theme music, and the series itself. Instead we get a movie at a movie's pace. It's a soft reboot written for newcomers that also had to satisfy Firefly fans, and set up for 2 possible sequels that didn't happen :( . Because the actors for Wash & Book had other obligations, it was known they would not be able to participate in Serenity 2 & 3. Whedon wrote them in a way that would make sense why they didn't appear after Serenity 1.
For Buffy, if you stick with it, at a point that will be them obvious. You will need to also watch a spin-off due to connections. How Simon rescues River is described completely differently in the show. He hired people to get her. In here, he's suddenly a superhero. I'm also not a fan of the change in relationship between Simon and Mal.
I appreciate the extra time we get because of the split, and given that Mikey picked the breakpoint without knowing what was coming next you chose very well!
I saw this in theaters opening night. The crowd in my showing was about 50/50 fans and general audience. When Jayne first appears holding a gun and grenades, half the audience shouted "VERA!!!" and the other half was very confused 🤣🤣🤣
Apparently the stunt choreographer was so amazed by her athletic ability that he wrote in stunts as he learned what she could do. "She can kick backwards around a pole.....can we put that in the scene."
Serenity got a general release in theaters, not a select. It opened at #2 in the US and stayed in the top 10 for 2 weeks. DVDs of Firefly and Serenity were brought aboard the ISS and are still a part of the Space Station's library today.
Just a minor touch that I love is when we see Inara happily presenting herself to a new client, only to read the Operative's body language and instantly know he means trouble. We can see her expression change in that moment. "Serenity" was Joss Whedon's second chance. "Serenity" is story arc 1 of 3 story arcs. That is why there are some unanswered questions. Had it done better at the box office then we might have gotten a movie trilogy. Comic Books & Novels answers those unanswered questions, continues the story arcs, and along with a role playing game - adds more to the lore.
Yes! I LOVE that moment, when we see the smile run away from her face, replaced with open fear. I really like that where most people judge others on what we see, companions are great readers... of body language, stance, dress, grooming etc., and are able to "see" a person far more clearly. We would just see a man, but in just seconds she realizes there is a very dangerous man in front of her, a trained assassin, AND that she's in trouble AND already caught.
One of my favorite lines is when mal is talking to the guy in the vault and jayne comes down screaming for him and mal mutter "every gorram job he has to star yelling my name" :)
Yay, Buffy! It's one of my all time favorites. Allows for in-depth discussions too! Looking forward to your reactions! Btw, it's been hinted that Joss Whedon thought about having Buffy and Firefly be in the same universe by having a known vampire from Buffy casually sip a drink in one of the Firefly bars. There's an interesting fan theory too that River is so special not only because of her training and brain alterations but because she's a Vampire Slayer too. (Certain girls are born with special powers that "activate" at some point). It will be interesting to see if you find similarities between River and Buffy at all and if you find this theory plausible. Edit: The first season of Buffy can be rough (low budget, network influence, monster of the week etc). The second is one of the best seasons though
I loved how they maintained continuity. Best example is in the scene where Mal is shirtless, he has the scar from the knife Crow threw at him in Episode 2 "The Train Job."
14:48 'He didn't lie down. They never lie down.' I think River is referring to the people on Miranda. The ones who died just laid down and let themselves die. The people who became reavers didn't lie down. And she may know this from some random bit of trivia she read from one of the 'key members of parliament.'
On Buffy; the first half season (it was a mid season replacement) is not quite a slog but it's a bit average. By mid second season it really starts getting good and keeps getting better throughout the rest of the run.
"I swallowed a bug" is the most relatable ( & favorite as its so simple) line in any movie for me, as I swallowed, unwillingly! quite a few when was out walking my dog during summer nights lol
Awesome to hear you're doing Buffy the Vampire Slayer next! I'll stay for that! May I recommend at least two seasons to properly give it the time it really needs. It's really in the middle of the second season it truly hits its classic stride. Good first half of the reaction. One scene we're always looking forward to is River's scene in the bar. Your reaction went well for that scene!
And that's the line II wanted to quote some time ago..."I ain't had nothin' 'twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!" (OH crap !!! It's in the movie!!!)
I think that Book and Inara between them were informal counselors for all the rest of the crew, and with both of them gone, there was nobody for Mal to talk to and figure stuff out, so his relationships with some of the others deteriorated. Hence the conflict between him and Simon.
In the novel, the look River gives Simon when he asks "Am I talking to Miranda now?" is accompanied by her thinking "My brother is too stupid to live." She gave Simon the same look when he walked away from Kaylee at the docks.
There was dialog for River in that scene that had her saying something like "No", but Joss cut out her verbal answer because her impromptu facial expression said it all.
Been a fan of the show since its very first garbled-order series run on Fox, though I don't have a lot of memorabilia on me, these days. I do want to point you to the Bedlam Bards, a filk music band that released a Firefly/Serenity-inspired album, On the Drift, back in the day, which you can find on TH-cam. My favorite track from that is a recreation of Saffron's Wedding Dance, which if you listen carefully, is actually a highly stylized version of Pachelbel's "Canon in D," a little easter egg that I'm sure nobody caught in the moment, but was a nice little piece foreshadowing about the plot of that episode. Anyway, great to see you guys had such a good time with the series over 20 years after it came out!
"Tell that to Inara." What I love about that line is the pause before it. Kayley doesn't just lash out. She considers it, and then she tells Mal what's what.
I love how Mal has trouble making an accurate shot when he tries to calmly line up his shot, but when he takes a spontaneous shot, he nails it perfectly!
damn i hoped we had patreon at this time so we would have an uncut version for this :) the intro is the most amazing thing ever, it looks like an uncut walk trough the whole ship, BUT there is a "hidden" cut in the middle, because the set of the ship are 2 parts, the upper and lower decks so they had to do a hidden cut as they are not connected :) still the intro is SOOO good it makes you feel how the ship is as you can see it all in a walkdown and you now feel how small or big it is :) also the explanation that its a star system and they left from earth and this star system has alot of planets but its all inside ONE system ... this explenation would have been nice for the series honestly xD
This will be posted uncut on patreon don't worry! I didn't want to rush the patreon, as I've been working and managing normal edits in the spare time. I'm aiming to finish a good chunk if not all of them by this weekend!
jaeh but lets be honest, who can wait to watch the reaction, you guys are to funny and i am on sick leave since 2 months so i have so much time xD @@732ReviewCrew
Buffy! I actually just started watching it this year for the first time. Its been crazy going back to a show from 1997. I was in high school at that time and it's just crazy to see that time period again.
I saw this movie 5 times in theatres. By the fifth I was one of 5 people in the theatre. Renamed my 2001 Pontiac Grand Am with galaxy silver to 'Serenity'.
The lore of the show is that things have gotten worse since the TV show- they're living much closer to the edge, Mal is a lot more desperate, and it's rubbing off on everyone.
After watching the movie, I saw both River and Mal as the only successful Reavers. Mal became one through the trauma of war and River was made into one. Check out the name of the medicine the Alliance used on Miranda. It's the same one given to River in the Tam Tapes. I always wanted more of the show to see if the Alliance made any more successful Rivers.
I was going to add the same comment. Like what we saw in the series pilot, Mal gets less fun & more pessimistic when life gets more difficult. JUST TO ADD: From strictly the social perspective, If the crew are looked at as a family, then Mal is Dad and Inara was always Mom. Inara leaving the crew also affected Mal negatively - making him even more grumpy.
The fact that they have turned to armed robbery is an instant red flag for me - things have got so desperate they can no longer get by as scavengers and petty crooks. Also, just the way that Kaylee's face is so much less rounded.
Great reactions. This movie had to made for fans and people who never saw it. When the show was cancelled, fans were upset. There is a documentary called Done the Impossible (on TH-cam) to show why the movie got made. The show makes more sense during a rewatch.
The movie Serenity had a full theatre release. I actually saw it before seeing a single episode of the series. That's crazy knowing what I know now, but surprisingly at the time the movie was totally understandable.
As a normal film release they had to balance informing a general audience of the backstory without boring or overwelming that audience. At the same time not boring the fans who had already seen the backstory via the show.
Loved your reaction to the first half. It's amazing what more budget and a couple of years of tech evolution can do to a show, huh? I will be watching your Buffy reactions, but please, give it at least a two seasons try. The first season is shorter, and the show was still finding it's footing.
Thanks, enjoyed the first part reaction. Looking forward to part 2. Also greatly looking forward to Buffy. Just as an FYI, the first season of Buffy (a mid-season replacement of only 12 episodes) is definitely enjoyable but I'd put only 2 or 3 of season one in the top 50 Buffy episodes. The show becomes much more creative, complex, and serial in nature after the first season.
this I believe is the first time I really realized the meaning behind Rivers "He didn't lie down, they never lie down" Oo, Buffy might be a very long project! But I'm here for it! I've been thinking about a rewatch for a while now!
I can't find it any more, but I read an honest-to-god essay about Sheppard book called "Not Very Christian Of Me". Essentially, it posits that the Sheppard's past isn't really important. What's important is what he's looking for. He became a priest, a life of rule and order because he's looking to make sense of the universe, and ultimately to find certainty and order. In the first episode we meet him he's trying to lay down the law, decide who's right and wrong and swearing to protect people, but it doesn't work. The man he swears to protect is the villain and is killed by Mal, and Book isn't even sure he's wrong to do it. All he finds on Serenity is grey area, nuance and uncertainty and he finds himself slipping back into older, less savoury mindsets as again he's failing to follow the rules - getting into violence, talking about Shan Yu and River's mind reading of him. Eventually he leaves Serenity to pursue a simpler life, as we see him in the movie. I'm assuming you have already watched the whole movie? I don't want to spoil anything.
as much as you were impressed by the ways in which the budget was boosted, there was actually one big cut -- the chinese. the show had accurate written chinese in the backgrounds as well as chinese lines (tho the cast struggled to deliver them), all the product of professional translation. for the movie, someone randomly copied and pasted a bunch of "asian-looking characters", none of it has any actual meaning, and there are no chinese lines.
The production cost for the tv series was around $1M/ep (some stuff like sets and costumes get amoritized over the entire run) so the orginal Firefly show cost about $15-20M for a runtime of over 10 hours. Serenity had a budget of $39M for a run time of just under 2 hours. Thats why you see such a quality difference.
Also. the Serenity did have to be rebuilt. Only possible because Nathan Fillion had taken pictures of the original set blueprints during the tv production. (Also led to the Easter egg of crate markings, not to be destroyed.)
Guys. Guys. Guys. I've paused you at 2:05 so I can go and settle my cat down - I just FREAKED him the heck out, by jumping out of my chair and shouting *YES* I'm so happy. There are conflicting comments here around watching the Buffy movie beforehand or not, I'm adding my vote to the 'not' side. It sets up similarly but some aspects don't carry across, others are done completely differently, and the rest should be allowed to rest in peace. *My* opinion, is to let the show be itself, and if you're curious, watch the movie later. That way your experience of the movie won't flavor your view of the show. Hopefully, you've caught the *UNANIMOUS* opinion of Buffy fans who entreat you to avoid the 'remastered' episodes, and instead watch the older version. The difference is profound, and is an awful change. Onto Serenity. Thank you for pausing halfway and having that brief discussion, it's something I didn't know I wanted - and now I need it from every reactor ever - hearing your thoughts and theories as the movie is underway is fantastic, and because you've paused it, the conversation isn't being had over events on the screen causing you to miss vital things. Perfection. Love it. Brilliant. Do it more. I'm in NZ, and the time zones mean that part 2 will be a Christmas present for me. Thanks guys! 💝
I saw this in the theaters on opening day. As a TV fan of the show, even as chopped up as it was, I was still a big fan. The dark and angry tone of the movie was a bit disturbing to me. "A purpose-built killing machine" is an apt description of the protagonist.
The entire series of 'Firefly', is based on the stated belief that Simon had no idea what the Alliance Government did to River, or that he was unaware that she was a psychic, trained for combat. That is totally tossed aside within the first few scenes where Simon infiltrated the facility and rescued her. He knew full well of these things.
I love this movie and it's fun to experience it with you guys. Everything is just on point in this IMO, especially the humor. I was fortunate to get my hands on a collectors edition. looking fwd to part 2 and buckle up.
Hey guys, just so you know, there are two blooper reels, one from the T.V. show and the other from the movie. Hey Joe - Since you're a Nathan fan, you just have to check out a couple more TH-cam videos; perhaps you and your friends can even do reaction videos (?). The first one is titled "Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog." It's another masterpiece from Joss Whedon, it's hilarious, and it's only about 40 minutes in length. The second video I'm recommending is "Uncharted: A Fan Film." Everyone wanted Nathan Fillion to play Nathan Drake in the "Uncharted" film, so this fan film gives everyone an idea as to how the movie would have turned out if Fillion had been cast; Oh, and it's only about fourteen minutes.
Just scheduling time since Sunday is our usual Firefly and we are a little behind due to Mikes move and the holidays, this will cover the lack of bloopers that we intend to record this weekend
Thanks for doing the two parter. Looking forward to Buffy. The first 3 seasons are my favorite. I watched this show as a teenager as it aired. I've rewatched it too many times to count. As others are saying, please watch the original version not the remastered. It's not better. Please don't watch the movie Buffy the Vampire Slayer 1992 before watching the tv show. It's absolutely nothing like the show. I think it will give you wrong expectations of the show. Maybe if enough people want you to, watch it between seasons 1 and 2? I'm never watching it again personally. It's like those parody movies made after actual good movies.
I have to compliment you guys on keeping the talking to a minimum and the listening to a maximum. Of course, assuming you watched the whole thing at once, you know that the pace of events only increases as the movie continues. I can't wait till Sunday to see you watching the second half. We all enjoy watching you almost as much as you enjoy watching the movie. Here's a good blooper reel: th-cam.com/video/nPMfEPPSfhQ/w-d-xo.html Here's a video of some of the characters having lunch with Joss and talking about Firefly. It's very interesting: th-cam.com/video/SXuH_wXKOZ4/w-d-xo.html
If Kaylee looks a little different - she didn't have to regain the extra pounds they wanted her to have for the show. They're never satisfied - Carrie Fischer had to lose weight; Jewel Staite had to gain.
Right? I do like the reason for it though, Joss wanted to subliminally tell the audience that Kaylee made the most of life, taking all the joys it offers, good food, bad men, full friendships...
Saw the movie in the theater, so glad I did. I hadn't seen the show, but it was my friend's favorite show and her turn to pick the movie. Definitely do not recommend seeing the movie first. But I've probably watched the show and the film about a dozen times, if not more.
Couldn't make a better decision than moving on to Buffy if you guys enjoyed Firefly. Keep in mind the first season was a midseason replacement with a suuuuuper limited budget and it doesn't really hit its stride until season 2 when it gets a budget and staff! Still even the first season is a fun ride, just doesn't really hit Firefly levels of quality with every episode being a banger until a little bit later on. Thanks for the great ride with the Firefly reactions!
So. Buffy is the greatest show ever. Some people say the first season is a bit campy. But So good!! And only gets better every episode. So let’s make we keep spoilers to 0% and have some fun. Enjoy it guys.
There was a 3 part comic, "Serenity-Those left behind" IIRC, that tells a little of what happened in between the show and the film. Excited for the Buffy viewing, though there's some jumping around required after season 3. Worry about that later then. Also, just a head's up on Buffy season 1. It was a "mid-season replacement" for a canceled show, so there are only 13 episodes in season one and it does kinda give a "monster of the week" vibe. Patience. It's not bad at all, but really takes off with season 2. Another side note as it appears you guys enjoy Nathan Fillion and Joss, during the writer's strike several years back, Joss wrote something "for the internet" as writing for tv/film wasn't allowed. It's 42 minutes of every emotion in the book. Easily searched on youtube, "Doctor Horrible's Sing-along-Blog". link: th-cam.com/video/Of9kHpCv1ts/w-d-xo.html
I might have suggested watching the whole thing and posting the reaction in two parts, instead of splitting the viewing into two parts. Feels rather awkward tbh.
@@732ReviewCrew I liked it this way because if your whole reaction was after the whole movie then almost none of what you discussed would be included in your discussion.
Is this too early to explain the Jayne/River shipping fan fiction? From Jayne's side it is easy. She is a willing woman. From her side, consider she had a crush on him since Ariel where she asked him "copper for a kiss" when she woke up despite him planning on turning her in for the reward. And you can't sneak up on a psychic if you think. Jayne sneaked up behind her in the bar because he doesn't think in combat, he reacts. It's not objectionable to her and keeps a potential weakness covered. BTW, more of Inara's story in the deleted scenes. You know, not much, but some. Oh, not to Spoil Buffy, but in Firefly season 2 in an opening bar scene Mal was going to meet Spike, just to make everyone gasp that this is the Bufffy-verse future.
In my opinion, Mr. Universe was the one mistake Joss made with this movie. He reads like an easy shortcut out of a writing dead-end. And giving his death the same wait before the end credits as Wash and Book was stupid.
You might want to pre-start the Buffy series by watching the movie first. It sort of sets up the character and some of the back story. It is a bit different with a young Kristy Swanson as Buffy and with Donald Sutherland and the PeeWee Herman actor (Paul Rubens?) in supporting parts.
"The quality sure has improved." It's a movie, not a TV show. "This is film quality." Because it's a movie. "Was this released in theaters?" YES because it was a general release movie not a made for TV anything! I can appreciate going in as blind as possible to a reaction. Deciding to turn your brains off entirely, though?
I delayed watching the TV show because the movie was so bad. I only started because friends told me that it was worth my time. And it was. The show does a decent job of introducing the character all by itself. But it might be interesting later on, once the quality of the show has been established for "the crew".
Joss hated the way that that movie ended up, he needed to do the television series to make up for it. It had the interference by the studio, divas demanding edits, goofy where he wanted grim...
Hey all! Some viewers requested we do a 2-part movie review to not only allow ourselves to have a discussion in-between scenes (at the end) abut also to allow more footage to be seen by you all!
Checkout our December movie pol! : forms.gle/6fadc8C5DJBjjjgk8
Glad you did a two-parter and included a mid movie discussion after part 1.
Since "Serenity" was picked up by Paramount, FOX did not share what they owned, which is the series name Firefly, the theme music, and the series itself. Instead we get a movie at a movie's pace.
It's a soft reboot written for newcomers that also had to satisfy Firefly fans, and set up for 2 possible sequels that didn't happen :( . Because the actors for Wash & Book had other obligations, it was known they would not be able to participate in Serenity 2 & 3. Whedon wrote them in a way that would make sense why they didn't appear after Serenity 1.
For Buffy, if you stick with it, at a point that will be them obvious. You will need to also watch a spin-off due to connections.
How Simon rescues River is described completely differently in the show. He hired people to get her. In here, he's suddenly a superhero.
I'm also not a fan of the change in relationship between Simon and Mal.
I appreciate the extra time we get because of the split, and given that Mikey picked the breakpoint without knowing what was coming next you chose very well!
Thank you! I was waiting for what felt like set up for the next part of the movie! @@elvwood
Chewitel Ejiofoir is a stellar actor, and was perfect as the Operative.
"Well now I know that." is a phrase my wife and I use ALL the time.
I saw this in theaters opening night. The crowd in my showing was about 50/50 fans and general audience. When Jayne first appears holding a gun and grenades, half the audience shouted "VERA!!!" and the other half was very confused 🤣🤣🤣
Summer Glau actually did that fight scene, it was written to play to her dancing history. She also did the ceiling stunt.
Apparently the stunt choreographer was so amazed by her athletic ability that he wrote in stunts as he learned what she could do.
"She can kick backwards around a pole.....can we put that in the scene."
Shebis such an underrated actress and plays weirdo characters so well. I thought she was great in the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Serenity got a general release in theaters, not a select. It opened at #2 in the US and stayed in the top 10 for 2 weeks.
DVDs of Firefly and Serenity were brought aboard the ISS and are still a part of the Space Station's library today.
The long shot following Mal through the ship in the beginning as he encounters the whole crew is exquisite.
Feels like it also is meant as an introductory scene for any new viewers! We get a little taste of each member
@@732ReviewCrew which was handy, since I saw this in the theater without seeing the show first 😬
jaeh it really looks like a 1shot, (its a 2 shot, there is a hidden cut as it was 2 sets but its so well done)
@732ReviewCrew you guys seem to miss a lot of "oners" Every season of The Expanse has had one, and you've missed them, at least on your YT reviews.
I'm very happy you guys are picking up BtVS.
You won't regret it.
You know... except for all the tears, suffering and desperation, but we like those.
Just a minor touch that I love is when we see Inara happily presenting herself to a new client, only to read the Operative's body language and instantly know he means trouble. We can see her expression change in that moment.
"Serenity" was Joss Whedon's second chance. "Serenity" is story arc 1 of 3 story arcs. That is why there are some unanswered questions. Had it done better at the box office then we might have gotten a movie trilogy. Comic Books & Novels answers those unanswered questions, continues the story arcs, and along with a role playing game - adds more to the lore.
Yes! I LOVE that moment, when we see the smile run away from her face, replaced with open fear. I really like that where most people judge others on what we see, companions are great readers... of body language, stance, dress, grooming etc., and are able to "see" a person far more clearly. We would just see a man, but in just seconds she realizes there is a very dangerous man in front of her, a trained assassin, AND that she's in trouble AND already caught.
One of my favorite lines is when mal is talking to the guy in the vault and jayne comes down screaming for him and mal mutter "every gorram job he has to star yelling my name" :)
Can't wait for the Buffy journey. It is quite a ride. it's one of those shows that gets better with each season.
Hey, should we tell Joe that Nathan Fillion is in the last season of "Buffy .....?"
Yay, Buffy! It's one of my all time favorites. Allows for in-depth discussions too! Looking forward to your reactions!
Btw, it's been hinted that Joss Whedon thought about having Buffy and Firefly be in the same universe by having a known vampire from Buffy casually sip a drink in one of the Firefly bars. There's an interesting fan theory too that River is so special not only because of her training and brain alterations but because she's a Vampire Slayer too. (Certain girls are born with special powers that "activate" at some point). It will be interesting to see if you find similarities between River and Buffy at all and if you find this theory plausible.
Edit: The first season of Buffy can be rough (low budget, network influence, monster of the week etc). The second is one of the best seasons though
Well there is one Buffy/Firefly connection ........... Nathan Fillion is in both!
"Did you see us fight?"
"No."
"TRAP"
One of the best sequences in all of Firefly!!!
I loved how they maintained continuity. Best example is in the scene where Mal is shirtless, he has the scar from the knife Crow threw at him in Episode 2 "The Train Job."
14:48 'He didn't lie down. They never lie down.' I think River is referring to the people on Miranda. The ones who died just laid down and let themselves die. The people who became reavers didn't lie down. And she may know this from some random bit of trivia she read from one of the 'key members of parliament.'
On Buffy; the first half season (it was a mid season replacement) is not quite a slog but it's a bit average. By mid second season it really starts getting good and keeps getting better throughout the rest of the run.
Season one is getting their feet planted solidly. After that they start swinging. Not everything is a home run, but there are very few misses.
"I swallowed a bug" is the most relatable ( & favorite as its so simple) line in any movie for me, as I swallowed, unwillingly! quite a few when was out walking my dog during summer nights lol
It is worth mentioning that River beautifully presented a telepath engaging in hand-to-hand combat with non-telepaths.
In what way did she "beautifully present" that?
It's not about how many years in the future. It is all about TV vs Movie productions. CGI existed in great quality since the early 90s
Awesome to hear you're doing Buffy the Vampire Slayer next! I'll stay for that! May I recommend at least two seasons to properly give it the time it really needs. It's really in the middle of the second season it truly hits its classic stride.
Good first half of the reaction. One scene we're always looking forward to is River's scene in the bar. Your reaction went well for that scene!
And that's the line II wanted to quote some time ago..."I ain't had nothin' 'twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!" (OH crap !!! It's in the movie!!!)
I think that Book and Inara between them were informal counselors for all the rest of the crew, and with both of them gone, there was nobody for Mal to talk to and figure stuff out, so his relationships with some of the others deteriorated. Hence the conflict between him and Simon.
Exactly. They were both mediators for the entire crew.
In the novel, the look River gives Simon when he asks "Am I talking to Miranda now?" is accompanied by her thinking "My brother is too stupid to live." She gave Simon the same look when he walked away from Kaylee at the docks.
There was dialog for River in that scene that had her saying something like "No", but Joss cut out her verbal answer because her impromptu facial expression said it all.
Been a fan of the show since its very first garbled-order series run on Fox, though I don't have a lot of memorabilia on me, these days. I do want to point you to the Bedlam Bards, a filk music band that released a Firefly/Serenity-inspired album, On the Drift, back in the day, which you can find on TH-cam. My favorite track from that is a recreation of Saffron's Wedding Dance, which if you listen carefully, is actually a highly stylized version of Pachelbel's "Canon in D," a little easter egg that I'm sure nobody caught in the moment, but was a nice little piece foreshadowing about the plot of that episode. Anyway, great to see you guys had such a good time with the series over 20 years after it came out!
Also, check out Mikey Mason's song, "She Don't Like Firefly".
It ran in theatres on wide screen. Overwhelming..
"Tell that to Inara." What I love about that line is the pause before it. Kayley doesn't just lash out. She considers it, and then she tells Mal what's what.
It's the moment of disconnect between 'I love my Captain!' Kaylee and 'Wow Mal you're a piece of shit!' Kaylee.
I love how Mal has trouble making an accurate shot when he tries to calmly line up his shot, but when he takes a spontaneous shot, he nails it perfectly!
The note from Joss: "Mal shoots best when shooting angry."
Remember the gunfights in the pilot?
damn i hoped we had patreon at this time so we would have an uncut version for this :)
the intro is the most amazing thing ever, it looks like an uncut walk trough the whole ship, BUT there is a "hidden" cut in the middle, because the set of the ship are 2 parts, the upper and lower decks so they had to do a hidden cut as they are not connected :)
still the intro is SOOO good it makes you feel how the ship is as you can see it all in a walkdown and you now feel how small or big it is :)
also the explanation that its a star system and they left from earth and this star system has alot of planets but its all inside ONE system ... this explenation would have been nice for the series honestly xD
This will be posted uncut on patreon don't worry! I didn't want to rush the patreon, as I've been working and managing normal edits in the spare time. I'm aiming to finish a good chunk if not all of them by this weekend!
jaeh but lets be honest, who can wait to watch the reaction,
you guys are to funny and i am on sick leave since 2 months so i have so much time xD @@732ReviewCrew
Hope all is well Dax!!!
"Are those grenades?" you can hear Jayne and Zoe continuing the conversation as Mal walks away. I love that.
@@brauliob callback to War Stories. :)
your jovial discussion mid movie... love it for us viewers knowing what's to come.
Buffy! I actually just started watching it this year for the first time. Its been crazy going back to a show from 1997. I was in high school at that time and it's just crazy to see that time period again.
I saw this movie 5 times in theatres. By the fifth I was one of 5 people in the theatre. Renamed my 2001 Pontiac Grand Am with galaxy silver to 'Serenity'.
Love how it starts as a video display inside a classroom inside a dream inside a surveillance recording...
The lore of the show is that things have gotten worse since the TV show- they're living much closer to the edge, Mal is a lot more desperate, and it's rubbing off on everyone.
After watching the movie, I saw both River and Mal as the only successful Reavers. Mal became one through the trauma of war and River was made into one. Check out the name of the medicine the Alliance used on Miranda. It's the same one given to River in the Tam Tapes. I always wanted more of the show to see if the Alliance made any more successful Rivers.
I was going to add the same comment. Like what we saw in the series pilot, Mal gets less fun & more pessimistic when life gets more difficult.
JUST TO ADD: From strictly the social perspective, If the crew are looked at as a family, then Mal is Dad and Inara was always Mom. Inara leaving the crew also affected Mal negatively - making him even more grumpy.
The fact that they have turned to armed robbery is an instant red flag for me - things have got so desperate they can no longer get by as scavengers and petty crooks. Also, just the way that Kaylee's face is so much less rounded.
Great reactions.
This movie had to made for fans and people who never saw it.
When the show was cancelled, fans were upset. There is a documentary called Done the Impossible (on TH-cam) to show why the movie got made.
The show makes more sense during a rewatch.
"Hey, a tussle!"
Jayne's grasp of the obvious is nothing short of masterful.
Speaking of the 'grasp of the obvious', River hit Jayne first below the belt before clocking him in the head. No limb shots, no core shots.
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The movie Serenity had a full theatre release. I actually saw it before seeing a single episode of the series. That's crazy knowing what I know now, but surprisingly at the time the movie was totally understandable.
As a normal film release they had to balance informing a general audience of the backstory without boring or overwelming that audience. At the same time not boring the fans who had already seen the backstory via the show.
Loved your reaction to the first half. It's amazing what more budget and a couple of years of tech evolution can do to a show, huh?
I will be watching your Buffy reactions, but please, give it at least a two seasons try. The first season is shorter, and the show was still finding it's footing.
Absolutely we shall! Thank you for joining us
Thanks, enjoyed the first part reaction. Looking forward to part 2.
Also greatly looking forward to Buffy. Just as an FYI, the first season of Buffy (a mid-season replacement of only 12 episodes) is definitely enjoyable but I'd put only 2 or 3 of season one in the top 50 Buffy episodes. The show becomes much more creative, complex, and serial in nature after the first season.
Glad you picked Buffy. Make certain you watch the original 4:3 version, not the "improved" (barf) remaster.
I second this! The remaster was a disaster...
I third this! Quality advice. Seriously. The remaster is *painfully* bad.
Another TV series to consider in the future is "Resident Alien", starring Alan Tudyk (Wash). I would classify of it as a Sci-fi Comedy.
this I believe is the first time I really realized the meaning behind Rivers "He didn't lie down, they never lie down"
Oo, Buffy might be a very long project! But I'm here for it! I've been thinking about a rewatch for a while now!
Browncoats Forever!!
Serenity is a bittersweet ride.
Just so you know, the first 5 or so episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer might be a little rough to get through, but it picks up pretty quickly.
I can't find it any more, but I read an honest-to-god essay about Sheppard book called "Not Very Christian Of Me". Essentially, it posits that the Sheppard's past isn't really important. What's important is what he's looking for.
He became a priest, a life of rule and order because he's looking to make sense of the universe, and ultimately to find certainty and order.
In the first episode we meet him he's trying to lay down the law, decide who's right and wrong and swearing to protect people, but it doesn't work. The man he swears to protect is the villain and is killed by Mal, and Book isn't even sure he's wrong to do it. All he finds on Serenity is grey area, nuance and uncertainty and he finds himself slipping back into older, less savoury mindsets as again he's failing to follow the rules - getting into violence, talking about Shan Yu and River's mind reading of him.
Eventually he leaves Serenity to pursue a simpler life, as we see him in the movie.
I'm assuming you have already watched the whole movie? I don't want to spoil anything.
Serenity is worth a 2nd watch for all the little things they seed in the beginning.
as much as you were impressed by the ways in which the budget was boosted, there was actually one big cut -- the chinese. the show had accurate written chinese in the backgrounds as well as chinese lines (tho the cast struggled to deliver them), all the product of professional translation. for the movie, someone randomly copied and pasted a bunch of "asian-looking characters", none of it has any actual meaning, and there are no chinese lines.
The production cost for the tv series was around $1M/ep (some stuff like sets and costumes get amoritized over the entire run) so the orginal Firefly show cost about $15-20M for a runtime of over 10 hours. Serenity had a budget of $39M for a run time of just under 2 hours. Thats why you see such a quality difference.
Also. the Serenity did have to be rebuilt. Only possible because Nathan Fillion had taken pictures of the original set blueprints during the tv production. (Also led to the Easter egg of crate markings, not to be destroyed.)
The Operative is one of, if not the, best villains in cinema.
Guys.
Guys.
Guys.
I've paused you at 2:05 so I can go and settle my cat down - I just FREAKED him the heck out, by jumping out of my chair and shouting *YES*
I'm so happy.
There are conflicting comments here around watching the Buffy movie beforehand or not, I'm adding my vote to the 'not' side. It sets up similarly but some aspects don't carry across, others are done completely differently, and the rest should be allowed to rest in peace. *My* opinion, is to let the show be itself, and if you're curious, watch the movie later. That way your experience of the movie won't flavor your view of the show.
Hopefully, you've caught the *UNANIMOUS* opinion of Buffy fans who entreat you to avoid the 'remastered' episodes, and instead watch the older version. The difference is profound, and is an awful change.
Onto Serenity.
Thank you for pausing halfway and having that brief discussion, it's something I didn't know I wanted - and now I need it from every reactor ever - hearing your thoughts and theories as the movie is underway is fantastic, and because you've paused it, the conversation isn't being had over events on the screen causing you to miss vital things. Perfection. Love it. Brilliant. Do it more.
I'm in NZ, and the time zones mean that part 2 will be a Christmas present for me. Thanks guys! 💝
Got it! We'll be releasing a video for the announcement soon and we'll probably looking into movie vs no movie to start! Non remastered, got it!
When the Rev gets on the ship in the tv series he drops the first hint he was an operative. Subbed.
Aww I was hoping for a full patreon version but can't find it.
I saw this in the theaters on opening day. As a TV fan of the show, even as chopped up as it was, I was still a big fan. The dark and angry tone of the movie was a bit disturbing to me. "A purpose-built killing machine" is an apt description of the protagonist.
5:56 Yep, that's not a special effect. Summer Glau really was just hanging off the ceiling.
The entire series of 'Firefly', is based on the stated belief that Simon had no idea what the Alliance Government did to River, or that he was unaware that she was a psychic, trained for combat. That is totally tossed aside within the first few scenes where Simon infiltrated the facility and rescued her. He knew full well of these things.
Welcome to the end of a wonderful journey. I've been here with you through every episode.
I love this movie and it's fun to experience it with you guys. Everything is just on point in this IMO, especially the humor. I was fortunate to get my hands on a collectors edition. looking fwd to part 2 and buckle up.
Nice touch that Mal kept the scare on his chest from the previous knife wound.
Love that you guys did a discussion after part 1. The speculation was great. 👍
I am so happy you are enjoying this movie & can't wait for you to experience Buffy. Buffy gets better with each season & will change your life. ❤
Hey guys, just so you know, there are two blooper reels, one from the T.V. show and the other from the movie. Hey Joe - Since you're a Nathan fan, you just have to check out a couple more TH-cam videos; perhaps you and your friends can even do reaction videos (?). The first one is titled "Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog." It's another masterpiece from Joss Whedon, it's hilarious, and it's only about 40 minutes in length. The second video I'm recommending is "Uncharted: A Fan Film." Everyone wanted Nathan Fillion to play Nathan Drake in the "Uncharted" film, so this fan film gives everyone an idea as to how the movie would have turned out if Fillion had been cast; Oh, and it's only about fourteen minutes.
Dr Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog is an absolute joy. With Neil Patrick Harris and Felicia Day co-starring it never gets old.
"Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" (2005) is a Christmas movie
A "Pax" sweatshirt for this movie?!? Amazing! You're unknowingly cranking out Reavers.
We blame Mike!
Actually have tears in my eyes, knowing that once again, it's the end.
Thanks for joining us through the entire journey.
I have to ask, Why wait till Sunday?
Just scheduling time since Sunday is our usual Firefly and we are a little behind due to Mikes move and the holidays, this will cover the lack of bloopers that we intend to record this weekend
Thanks for doing the two parter. Looking forward to Buffy. The first 3 seasons are my favorite. I watched this show as a teenager as it aired. I've rewatched it too many times to count. As others are saying, please watch the original version not the remastered. It's not better.
Please don't watch the movie Buffy the Vampire Slayer 1992 before watching the tv show. It's absolutely nothing like the show. I think it will give you wrong expectations of the show. Maybe if enough people want you to, watch it between seasons 1 and 2? I'm never watching it again personally. It's like those parody movies made after actual good movies.
The Haven settlement is on a moon orbiting Deadwood, the world where the brothel Heart Of Gold is found.
I have to compliment you guys on keeping the talking to a minimum and the listening to a maximum. Of course, assuming you watched the whole thing at once, you know that the pace of events only increases as the movie continues. I can't wait till Sunday to see you watching the second half. We all enjoy watching you almost as much as you enjoy watching the movie.
Here's a good blooper reel: th-cam.com/video/nPMfEPPSfhQ/w-d-xo.html
Here's a video of some of the characters having lunch with Joss and talking about Firefly. It's very interesting: th-cam.com/video/SXuH_wXKOZ4/w-d-xo.html
When our fans ask us to minimize talking or focus on something we absolutely will! Mikey told the guys to focus up especially as this moves fast
If Kaylee looks a little different - she didn't have to regain the extra pounds they wanted her to have for the show.
They're never satisfied - Carrie Fischer had to lose weight; Jewel Staite had to gain.
Right? I do like the reason for it though, Joss wanted to subliminally tell the audience that Kaylee made the most of life, taking all the joys it offers, good food, bad men, full friendships...
Define "happy ending."
Crew all lives :'(
they can hardly imagine what is to come. I can't wait for the second part!..
To paraphrase Inara: "Well, there is an ending"
"oh god, oh god, we're all gonna..."
Whoops, wrong DVD.
OK so I have to wait until Christmas Eve to watch part 2 and to see how you guys react.
Saw the movie in the theater, so glad I did. I hadn't seen the show, but it was my friend's favorite show and her turn to pick the movie. Definitely do not recommend seeing the movie first. But I've probably watched the show and the film about a dozen times, if not more.
Buffy really hit its stride in season 2 once Spike joined.
Couldn't make a better decision than moving on to Buffy if you guys enjoyed Firefly. Keep in mind the first season was a midseason replacement with a suuuuuper limited budget and it doesn't really hit its stride until season 2 when it gets a budget and staff! Still even the first season is a fun ride, just doesn't really hit Firefly levels of quality with every episode being a banger until a little bit later on.
Thanks for the great ride with the Firefly reactions!
Got it thank you!
So. Buffy is the greatest show ever. Some people say the first season is a bit campy. But So good!! And only gets better every episode. So let’s make we keep spoilers to 0% and have some fun. Enjoy it guys.
I saw this in the theaters and it was awesome!
There was a 3 part comic, "Serenity-Those left behind" IIRC, that tells a little of what happened in between the show and the film.
Excited for the Buffy viewing, though there's some jumping around required after season 3. Worry about that later then.
Also, just a head's up on Buffy season 1. It was a "mid-season replacement" for a canceled show, so there are only 13 episodes in season one and it does kinda give a "monster of the week" vibe. Patience. It's not bad at all, but really takes off with season 2.
Another side note as it appears you guys enjoy Nathan Fillion and Joss, during the writer's strike several years back, Joss wrote something "for the internet" as writing for tv/film wasn't allowed. It's 42 minutes of every emotion in the book. Easily searched on youtube, "Doctor Horrible's Sing-along-Blog". link: th-cam.com/video/Of9kHpCv1ts/w-d-xo.html
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We don't need the Shepard tell us who he is. There were enough clues, the fans know who he is.
Here's the link to the "Serenity" blooper reel: th-cam.com/video/nPMfEPPSfhQ/w-d-xo.html
I might have suggested watching the whole thing and posting the reaction in two parts, instead of splitting the viewing into two parts. Feels rather awkward tbh.
We did that! We did a minor discussion in the middle but did watch it in one sitting. Had a discussion, grabbed a snack and sat back down!
@@732ReviewCrew Ah, good! Can't wait for Sunday then!
@@732ReviewCrew I liked it this way because if your whole reaction was after the whole movie then almost none of what you discussed would be included in your discussion.
"I just want a happy ending" 🤦♀️
poor boys, if only they knew what was coming..
Is this too early to explain the Jayne/River shipping fan fiction? From Jayne's side it is easy. She is a willing woman. From her side, consider she had a crush on him since Ariel where she asked him "copper for a kiss" when she woke up despite him planning on turning her in for the reward. And you can't sneak up on a psychic if you think. Jayne sneaked up behind her in the bar because he doesn't think in combat, he reacts. It's not objectionable to her and keeps a potential weakness covered. BTW, more of Inara's story in the deleted scenes. You know, not much, but some. Oh, not to Spoil Buffy, but in Firefly season 2 in an opening bar scene Mal was going to meet Spike, just to make everyone gasp that this is the Bufffy-verse future.
Here's the link to the "Firefly" bloopers: th-cam.com/video/1mve-E23trk/w-d-xo.html
In my opinion, Mr. Universe was the one mistake Joss made with this movie. He reads like an easy shortcut out of a writing dead-end. And giving his death the same wait before the end credits as Wash and Book was stupid.
Was hoping for another space show to replace Firefly, oh well.
You might want to pre-start the Buffy series by watching the movie first. It sort of sets up the character and some of the back story. It is a bit different with a young Kristy Swanson as Buffy and with Donald Sutherland and the PeeWee Herman actor (Paul Rubens?) in supporting parts.
The movie didn't catch fire at the box office, hence a series reboot was doomed.
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The first season of Buffy is a rough watch so stick with it until Season 3. If you don’t like it after that, drop it.
Got it!
this is what the series could have been if it had received the necessary money and attention from Fox. 😡💩☠️💣💥💥💥
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Все сложил в ролик это уметь надо. красаувчег
Buffy - a little slow first season. Get's better as it goes along.
Shiny!
"The quality sure has improved." It's a movie, not a TV show.
"This is film quality." Because it's a movie.
"Was this released in theaters?" YES because it was a general release movie not a made for TV anything!
I can appreciate going in as blind as possible to a reaction. Deciding to turn your brains off entirely, though?
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If you're gonna watch the Buffy series, you've GOT to watch the movie, first! Kristy Swanson is the far better Buffy, in my book.
Swanson is good, but the film is terribly weak. However, I'm glad that you liked it.
I delayed watching the TV show because the movie was so bad. I only started because friends told me that it was worth my time. And it was.
The show does a decent job of introducing the character all by itself.
But it might be interesting later on, once the quality of the show has been established for "the crew".
Joss hated the way that that movie ended up, he needed to do the television series to make up for it. It had the interference by the studio, divas demanding edits, goofy where he wanted grim...
it is neither necessary nor desirable to watch the movie. if any of it's important, it will appear in flashbacks.