*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:18 - Background of the Guest 1:30 - Topic of the Discussion 2:54 - Introduction to the Topic 4:36 - Causes of the Rise of Anti-Islam sentiment in Europe 14:17 - Rise in Atheism & its various beliefs 17:52 - Fear tactics used by the Anti-Islam Parties 28:32 - Christian General building a Mosque in Poland after the Great Turkish War 32:27 - Anti-Islam Politics of the Far Right 34:51 - Theory of the Great Replacement 39:14 - Professional Organization of the Anti-Islam Parties 43:56 - Political Representation of Anti-Islam Parties in Europe 47:04 - Public Perception of Islam in Europe 48:30 - Need of Dawah in Europe 50:50 - Rise of Islam & Atheism in Europe 52:01 - People's Need of Religion 54:06 - What Islam offers to Humanity 55:10 - Strange Beliefs of Geert Wilders & people alike 59:06 - Acceptance of Islam by Europe 1:04:48 - History of Islam in Europe 1:06:02 - Closing Remarks 1:07:46 - Islamic Museum in Netherlands 1:09:01 - Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖 Fabulous Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻
Isn’t it just crazy how 5 years ago we would have called Joram an enemy of Islam who would be severely tormented in the hereafter but now he’s a Muslim.
Quran 41:34 : "And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon, the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend."
I'm so happy that I had a chance to interview you both on my channel, so I was excited to see you talk about this topic. As an Eastern European Muslim, I'm happy to say that even some of my family members changed their views on Islam after my reversion, and slowly but surely with smart Dawah, we can change the European mindset about Islam inshallah.
Why not just adopt islaam and send all the brown ppl back ? You are completely erasing your own identity with mass influx of people from outside of euurope
“Non-Muslims don’t read the Qur’an or Hadith, they read you” - Joram 10:55-10:58 Wow that’s so true, I’ve never thought of it like that. Our behaviour is a big thing.
O yes we Pagans do we know all of it and vile filth hadiths of Mohammed Hadith 1:229 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible). Hadith 1:231 Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar: I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible Hadith 1:232 Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun: I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them
True. Which is why Islam came down in stages; first is Akidah, 2nd Akhlak and 3rd Ibadah. Islam is spread through Akhlak because people notice who you are than anything else first.
Indeed, the best Dawah is being a good example of yourself. Don't drink, don't cheat, don't lie, don't insult, always smile, be generous and gentle, etc.. You don't need to speak because actions speak louder than words.
@UCSNsJeIf34xbxgWdJlXWLRA if i showed you will you stop being hater at least? In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful: "For your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And honour your parents. If one or both of them reach old age in your care, never say to them ˹even˺ ‘ugh,’ nor yell at them. Rather, address them respectfully And be humble with them out of mercy, and pray, “My Lord! Be merciful to them as they raised me when I was young our Lord knows best what is within yourselves. If you are righteous, He is certainly All-Forgiving to those who ˹constantly˺ turn to Him Give to close relatives their due, as well as the poor and ˹needy˺ travellers. And do not spend wastefully Surely the wasteful are ˹like˺ brothers to the devils. And the Devil is ever ungrateful to his Lord But if you must turn them down ˹because you lack the means to give˺-while hoping to receive your Lord’s bounty-then ˹at least˺ give them a kind word Do not be so tight-fisted, for you will be blameworthy; nor so open-handed, for you will end up in poverty Surely your Lord gives abundant or limited provisions to whoever He wills. He is certainly All-Aware, All-Seeing of His servants Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely killing them is a heinous sin Do not go near adultery. It is truly a shameful deed and an evil way Do not take a ˹human˺ life-made sacred by Allah-except with ˹legal˺ right. If anyone is killed unjustly, We have given their heirs the authority, but do not let them exceed limits in retaliation, for they are already supported ˹by law˺ Do not come near the wealth of the orphan-unless intending to enhance it-until they attain maturity. Honour ˹your˺ pledges, for you will surely be accountable for them Give in full when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is fairest and best in the end" The Night Journey 23-35 What we learn in a very short summary? 1- be kind & merciful with your parents, love them, ask God to have mercy on them 2- be close to relatives, help poor needy people, god will reward you for your job 3- don't be wasteful, wasting food, money ...etc 4- don't be stingy neither too generous 5- don't kill your children for fear of poverty or poor, this verse (17-31) came to protect babies and children from arab pagans who were killing their babies back in time in pre-Islamic age, nowadays so many people are wasting their babies life in what we call now abortion, unfortunately ... 6- adultery is worng 7- don't waste human life ever, unless he deserves it justly 8- don't steal orphan wealth 9- be just, showing a strict regard for what is morally right go read tafsir for more explanation, if you want to understand islam, please go learn it, don't judge anything before you have a very well understanding of it
Alhamdullilah. It's simply beautiful to see 2 reverts engage in such a thought-provoking discussion. Islam has truly spread to every corner and household on this planet, alhamdullilah.
The fact that Islam has spread so far and wide is what scares people or should I say is food for those people wanting to spread fear and incorrect message about Islam, fuelled by the (predominantly) right wing media.
@@fedesetrtatio1 i pray Allah guides you to Islam the same way He guided Brother Joram. Stay true to your user name, Inquisitio Veritatis. Maybe we will meet each other in Paradise
@@fedesetrtatio1 Brother i appreciate your question and statements. I should expand and say that every Muslim has been guided by Allah. I could say i was similar to you, seeking the answers to why things are the way they are, and how they came to be. Brother we are simply energy. Allah has willed everything into existence. Im no expert but at the quantum level everything is just waves of energy that somehow solidify into matter. Our conscience is unquantifiable. But then our language and intellctual capacity to quantify the universe stems from this. Islam is like carrying a backpack full of proof for everything brother. We are ignorant compared to Allah. We only exist 6 or 7 decades, what can we truly come to know? As humans we need to be taught and all knowledge is from Allah in the limits amounts He provides. I Iove hearing the stories of reverts, because you asked what guided me to Allah, and every revert has their own marvelous story of guidance. Science and astronomy first expanded, and then shrunk my mind to know that i am a shrunken tiny creation that is barely smart enough to realize that I am created, just like everything out there.
@@fedesetrtatio1 You have a beautiful answer from the person with whom you re discussing, so i will clarify just one point : The exegetes are not necessary to understand the divine message, but the Holy Quran is an exceptional text in its meaning, linguistic style, in the diversity of its contents, the unusual and "blowminding" description of the human being, of the universe, of the human being within this universe and his relationship with this universe ( with its animate and inanimate aspects, with its visible and invisible realities ) etc, so it is necessary and/of interesting to carefully study its linguistic aspect, which reveals hidden or other meanings than at first view ; it is necessary to study the historical context of some revelations, not to understand their message, but to better understand their meaning and importance. I can go on, but i think you have now an idea of what the work of exegetes is. Nowadays exegetes can come with answers when it comes to questions about anything in the Quran, but it has not always been so. For example exegetes in the past could not explain why God The Merciful says that He sends iron from above, or what He means by "...the earth was a compact massa and We have ( made it burst ). ( between brackets because i don't know the exact translation ). Or about the end of the sun and the moon....or the countless other "mysteties" which are no longer mysteries because now scientifically explained. They used to say " God knows better". And God knows better why you are here talking the way you do about Allah The most merciful and His universal message. Only God knows what is in your soul that even you yourself don't know. I hope it is that deep rooted sense of the truth we all are born with, according to Islam, and that you will soon give up fighting against it, though you are not aware of this fight.
I am from Holland and got utmost respect for him A very very intelligent person. When he talks and gives dawah in Dutch he is very easy to understand and also has a lot of knowledge about history and also i am a big fan of you Paul:) May Allah give you both good health and increase your knowledge even more .ameen
@@elisabeth5285 het verleden is het verleden Elisabeth. God heeft hem geleid naar de waarheid wie zijn wij dan om te oordelen over ze verleden.. we hebben allemaal wel een verleden toch. Het gaat erom dat je berouw toont en goede daden verricht. Niemand is perfect.
It’s very inspiring dialogue and Joram has shed some interesting facts of the history in Poland. Keep your good work dear Bro Paul. May Allah Swt bless you both. Ameen.
Salaam Alaikum br. Paul, thank you for bringing again br. Joram . After the last interview , I bought the book APOSTATE , and bought one more to share with friends . Once I statred reading the book written by br. Joram I could not put it down until I finished it . I do have a request to be made to br Joram , he should enter politics again and may Allah give him success and he will educate the uneducated in the parliament, regarding ISLAM . Thanks for all your efforts br Paul. . May God bless you both with long life .
Thanks Paul and Joram for this eye opening discussion, really appreciate all your effort. O Allah please give comfort to our brothers and sisters that are in pain and suffering due to this calamity. Ameen
"They condemn what do they not understand" What a powerful phrase. O Muslim brothers and sisters, if you ever confront jerks, slap them with this phrase.
indeed.. one must always be patient and thoughtful especially with those who are opposed to us .. though it is difficult to control ones emotions ..but one must try ..
They condemn what they dont understand. No more explanations is needed. Thanks very much brother paul for conducting such quality interviews as they are very much needed for those who are living in the west not only muslims but also non muslims.
Thank you Paul again for your tremendous efforts having such wonderful guests. It is very helpful to keep updated with the current events in Europe. It is indeed worrying, but eventually let us not forget of what Allah says: "They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it" 61:8.
And in turn the reversion of staunch enemies of Islam 😏 It's incredible to think this guy was ever such an enemy of Islam when you see how much peace he's at and how much he advocates Islam
😍🤩Looking forward to watching this, God Bless you both! Edit: Very informative and clearly wise and educated insights from both gents. Fruitful as always.
Watching this video for several times and i still got insightful messages... Both of you brothers got soothing voice to my ears ;) Can't wait to hear another topic &discussion in future. Bravo bro Joram & bro Paul! Lots of love from Malaysia!
maa'shaa'Allah TabarkAllah the causer of causes .. absolute gem you are mr Paul .. and peace and blessings be upon the wonderful man joram ..may he and us remain steadfast and sincere to him who deserves all praise and worship.. peace and blessings be upon you mr paul..
@CHALLENGEChristianity we don't have problem with Christianity growing there, christians are welcome to islamic countries, but Christianity is declining in western countries, go save your brothers there instead of blaming muslims
@CHALLENGEChristianity yes i know that, you can't build a church there in arab peninsula because it's a sacred land, just like Vatican, Mohammad pboh said to not turn or help to turn this sacred land to idolatry once again, i don't know if the hadith is talking about all peninsula or only Makkah & Medina, but it doen't mean a Christian can't live there in KSA
Thanks Paul and Joram for this knowledgeable discussion. A couple of points that really touched me: 1. Unlike in the US and some countries in Africa and Latin America where muslims have to deal with fundamentalist Christians, the focus of Dawah in the mostly-secular Europe should be on calling people towards belief in God. 2. Dawah should be more walk than talk; show people what belief in the one true God does. People read us before they read our book.
I just bought his book. I’m from the Netherlands and owwww Joram is so inspiring, intelligent and so humble. The people who speak Dutch know what I’m talking about. He’s so well spoken in Dutch and English. Much respect ❤️
A very interesting discussion.Many thanks for you both : the interlocutor and the guest. Mr. Karvelen , an apology if you have the opportunity to debate In Dutch universities do not hesitate to do so because many people are in a great need for it .I met a kind girl for a few hours she told me about her reverting to Islam and she was very happy,but when she returned to Neitherlands her father was against her reverting.He is a professor of religions and has false thoughts about Islam because of fake news promoted by bad media.
Genghis Khan sent 3 sons to conquer northern Europe. One of the sons became Muslim and from him came the Tartars. What is now Ukraine, was their homeland called Crimea. Here Muslims lived peacefully with Jews and Christians. These same tartars prevented Ivar the Terrible from conquering Mecca with the help of the Egyptian Mamluks. I knew Muslims started to turn on each other, because of non-religious reasons, which was the main reason of the fall of the Ottomans. But I never ever knew they fought the Ottomans in Vienna. Nice one Joram.
Masha'Allah.... you 2 guys are great and doing un imaginable work..!! Some people especially politicians have big HATE of Islam... We who know the power of Islam are lucky... among the few... BUT you Brothers Paul & Joram are among the VERY FEW or rather i can say you could be messangers to Europe...! You 2 have great knowledge. YOU are chalanging great IGNORANCE in EUROPE somehow SIMILAR to ARABLANDS at the time of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). Inshort.... May ALLAH protect you guys.This DUA from your Brother in Islam from Mombasa Kenya.
I got "Apostate" and read from cover-to-cover. It is one of the best books I have ever read. It is easy to comprehend, logic, investigative & informative. It goes with the reader narratively step-by-step from prologue to epilogue showing the journey of a "Beautiful Mind" to TRUTH.
Mashah Allah may Allah protect you all. We did not move anywhere until we complete long discussions. You are most lucky people. As a born Muslim, we feel very sad when we learn religious knowledge from you guys. Pls keep it.
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “A time of patience will come to people in which adhering to one’s religion is like grasping a hot coal.” Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2260 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
@CHALLENGEChristianity it’s from our prophet. Who had knowledge of the future by the permission of Allah And yes it is definitely coming true . As liberalism takes over, more people leave religions , tempted by worldly glitter and glam. already. If you are a practicing Christian then you can see how it affects Christians. Very few western Christians are secular liberalists.
very happy to see both of you that you are speaking about the True religion of Islam which is faceing many trouble in the world . May Almighty Allah (swt) reward you both in Duniya and Akhira. Ameen 🤲❤️
AssalamuAlaykum wrwb brother Paul! I think we could have an entire series dedicated to the pre-modern relationships between European nations and Muslim Nations, the pre-colonial ones as well, from the Ottomans to the North African etc
assalam'alaikum to both of you from Jakarta. Very insightful indeed and listening to you like I'm updating myself the development of Islam in Europe. Waw!!! amazing development indeed. For example the three Gs in the Netherland, Islamic museum in Rotterdam, etc exactly like in Jakarta (north) an Islamic museum is now being built also. Great and I look forward to watching you both next time. Wassalam' alaikum wrwb.
Great to hear that you include indonesia as the example.of.moslem country but non-arabic. Yes, as we know islam is for all human being regardless countries, cultures etc May Allah bless all of us
No matter how hard they try to supress the Islam...this religion will keep rising...higher and higher.. because Islam is the truth and eventually truth will reach out every household on earth.
Wonderful discussion that should help,broaden peoples perspective. History should never be forgotten as it has always dictated the future. Many of the ideals, cultures, architecture, engineering principles etc in Europe is here thanks to the knowledge spread by Muslims.
Assalam Alaykum. Ma-shaa-allah what a great combination of presenters: brothers Paul and Joram. Really a great video, very easy to follow, scary but also inspiring because it shows if we (Muslims) engage properly, we could help bring back into Europe belief in God, family and sense of community that it has lost. Obviously Christianity has failed in Europe and without realising it Europeans are pining for it's replacement. Thanks so much for this wonderful discussion. May Allah SWT bless you both and everyone that contributed. 🤲🏽🤗
The surge in monkeypox cases across Europe have been linked to a Belgium fetish festival and a superspreader event at an adult sauna in Madrid, Spain. Most of Spain's 30 cases have been associated with a sauna in the country's capital, according to officials. The region's health chief, Enrique Ruiz Escudero, told reporters that health officials detected a “notable proportion” of the European cases are in gay and bisexual men. While three cases in Belgium were linked to fetish festival Darklands in Antwerp.
May Allah Swt bless you both for this inspiring and thoughtful discussion; many many beautiful points discussed. Plz do continue these wonderful discussions…..
His last appearance was interesting but this discussion was absolutely fascinating. You can make multiple shorts out of so many interesting facts that both of you mentioned throughout the video.
I love your videos. Would you consider also publishing short versions of these with highlights? I share them but many people do not have patience or time to watch them in full
Great talk. I think the problem in Europe is also the problem im USA. Regardless of what your religion as once said “ if you are tolerant for everything you stand for nothing” Just on a note to Mr. Williams as a born muslim from makka living in nyc I am noticing a greater turn to religion in the west and the opposite im the muslim contries could be political could be freedom issues in the middle east. I feel that the change of islam will come from the west to the east.
It was a joy listening to this podcast, very eye opening, more of this would be great not only in the English language, but also in Dutch, French, German, Spanish, etc. Muslim communities need to understand this and act accordingly with the intellect that Allah (swt) gave us. We need to make us heard and teach the general population that Islam is beautiful and it brings solutions to many deep problems among the now secularized populations ; and show the "eurocentric extremist nationalist biggots" how weak their arguments are in regards of criticizing the beautiful Islam.
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*Timestamps:*
0:00 - Introduction
0:18 - Background of the Guest
1:30 - Topic of the Discussion
2:54 - Introduction to the Topic
4:36 - Causes of the Rise of Anti-Islam sentiment in Europe
14:17 - Rise in Atheism & its various beliefs
17:52 - Fear tactics used by the Anti-Islam Parties
28:32 - Christian General building a Mosque in Poland after the Great Turkish War
32:27 - Anti-Islam Politics of the Far Right
34:51 - Theory of the Great Replacement
39:14 - Professional Organization of the Anti-Islam Parties
43:56 - Political Representation of Anti-Islam Parties in Europe
47:04 - Public Perception of Islam in Europe
48:30 - Need of Dawah in Europe
50:50 - Rise of Islam & Atheism in Europe
52:01 - People's Need of Religion
54:06 - What Islam offers to Humanity
55:10 - Strange Beliefs of Geert Wilders & people alike
59:06 - Acceptance of Islam by Europe
1:04:48 - History of Islam in Europe
1:06:02 - Closing Remarks
1:07:46 - Islamic Museum in Netherlands
1:09:01 - Wrapping Up
SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖
Fabulous Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻
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Isn’t it just crazy how 5 years ago we would have called Joram an enemy of Islam who would be severely tormented in the hereafter but now he’s a Muslim.
His story is so touching and always reminds me of story of Umar Ibn Khattab(RA) who became a mentor for so many Muslims today.
As a Muslim our responsibility is to convey the true message of Islam and should strongly avoid sentencing non Muslim to Hell fire it's not our job.
Quran 41:34 :
"And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon, the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend."
Alhamdulillah...
You cannot say someone will be tormented in the hereafter. This is Allah's authority only.
I'm so happy that I had a chance to interview you both on my channel, so I was excited to see you talk about this topic. As an Eastern European Muslim, I'm happy to say that even some of my family members changed their views on Islam after my reversion, and slowly but surely with smart Dawah, we can change the European mindset about Islam inshallah.
Masha Allah my brother...
Why not just adopt islaam and send all the brown ppl back ? You are completely erasing your own identity with mass influx of people from outside of euurope
Aamien YaRabb
Ma'sha'allah
May Allah bless you
“Non-Muslims don’t read the Qur’an or Hadith, they read you” - Joram 10:55-10:58
Wow that’s so true, I’ve never thought of it like that. Our behaviour is a big thing.
O yes we Pagans do we know all of it and vile filth hadiths of Mohammed Hadith 1:229
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).
Hadith 1:231
Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar:
I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible
Hadith 1:232
Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them
True. Which is why Islam came down in stages; first is Akidah, 2nd Akhlak and 3rd Ibadah. Islam is spread through Akhlak because people notice who you are than anything else first.
Indeed, the best Dawah is being a good example of yourself. Don't drink, don't cheat, don't lie, don't insult, always smile, be generous and gentle, etc.. You don't need to speak because actions speak louder than words.
So true....
So pedo, a role model.
Joram is such a wonderful human being. He exudes kindness and peace. Glad to watch him again on your channel.
@CHALLENGEChristianity if you read you will know
Your prophet Mohammed was a vile cunt he fucked a child do you want the Hadiths ?
@UCSNsJeIf34xbxgWdJlXWLRA if i showed you will you stop being hater at least?
In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful:
"For your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And honour your parents. If one or both of them reach old age in your care, never say to them ˹even˺ ‘ugh,’ nor yell at them. Rather, address them respectfully
And be humble with them out of mercy, and pray, “My Lord! Be merciful to them as they raised me when I was young
our Lord knows best what is within yourselves. If you are righteous, He is certainly All-Forgiving to those who ˹constantly˺ turn to Him
Give to close relatives their due, as well as the poor and ˹needy˺ travellers. And do not spend wastefully
Surely the wasteful are ˹like˺ brothers to the devils. And the Devil is ever ungrateful to his Lord
But if you must turn them down ˹because you lack the means to give˺-while hoping to receive your Lord’s bounty-then ˹at least˺ give them a kind word
Do not be so tight-fisted, for you will be blameworthy; nor so open-handed, for you will end up in poverty
Surely your Lord gives abundant or limited provisions to whoever He wills. He is certainly All-Aware, All-Seeing of His servants
Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely killing them is a heinous sin
Do not go near adultery. It is truly a shameful deed and an evil way
Do not take a ˹human˺ life-made sacred by Allah-except with ˹legal˺ right. If anyone is killed unjustly, We have given their heirs the authority, but do not let them exceed limits in retaliation, for they are already supported ˹by law˺
Do not come near the wealth of the orphan-unless intending to enhance it-until they attain maturity. Honour ˹your˺ pledges, for you will surely be accountable for them
Give in full when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is fairest and best in the end"
The Night Journey 23-35
What we learn in a very short summary?
1- be kind & merciful with your parents, love them, ask God to have mercy on them
2- be close to relatives, help poor needy people, god will reward you for your job
3- don't be wasteful, wasting food, money ...etc
4- don't be stingy neither too generous
5- don't kill your children for fear of poverty or poor, this verse (17-31) came to protect babies and children from arab pagans who were killing their babies back in time in pre-Islamic age, nowadays so many people are wasting their babies life in what we call now abortion, unfortunately ...
6- adultery is worng
7- don't waste human life ever, unless he deserves it justly
8- don't steal orphan wealth
9- be just, showing a strict regard for what is morally right
go read tafsir for more explanation, if you want to understand islam, please go learn it, don't judge anything before you have a very well understanding of it
This was indeed a very enjoyable interview! Joram and Paul did well!
And knowledge too!
Alhamdullilah. It's simply beautiful to see 2 reverts engage in such a thought-provoking discussion. Islam has truly spread to every corner and household on this planet, alhamdullilah.
The fact that Islam has spread so far and wide is what scares people or should I say is food for those people wanting to spread fear and incorrect message about Islam, fuelled by the (predominantly) right wing media.
@@fedesetrtatio1 i pray Allah guides you to Islam the same way He guided Brother Joram. Stay true to your user name, Inquisitio Veritatis. Maybe we will meet each other in Paradise
@@fedesetrtatio1 Brother i appreciate your question and statements. I should expand and say that every Muslim has been guided by Allah. I could say i was similar to you, seeking the answers to why things are the way they are, and how they came to be. Brother we are simply energy. Allah has willed everything into existence. Im no expert but at the quantum level everything is just waves of energy that somehow solidify into matter. Our conscience is unquantifiable. But then our language and intellctual capacity to quantify the universe stems from this. Islam is like carrying a backpack full of proof for everything brother. We are ignorant compared to Allah. We only exist 6 or 7 decades, what can we truly come to know? As humans we need to be taught and all knowledge is from Allah in the limits amounts He provides. I Iove hearing the stories of reverts, because you asked what guided me to Allah, and every revert has their own marvelous story of guidance. Science and astronomy first expanded, and then shrunk my mind to know that i am a shrunken tiny creation that is barely smart enough to realize that I am created, just like everything out there.
@@fedesetrtatio1 You have a beautiful answer from the person with whom you re discussing, so i will clarify just one point : The exegetes are not necessary to understand the divine message, but the Holy Quran is an exceptional text in its meaning, linguistic style, in the diversity of its contents, the unusual and "blowminding" description of the human being, of the universe, of the human being within this universe and his relationship with this universe ( with its animate and inanimate aspects, with its visible and invisible realities ) etc, so it is necessary and/of interesting to carefully study its linguistic aspect, which reveals hidden or other meanings than at first view ; it is necessary to study the historical context of some revelations, not to understand their message, but to better understand their meaning and importance. I can go on, but i think you have now an idea of what the work of exegetes is.
Nowadays exegetes can come with answers when it comes to questions about anything in the Quran, but it has not always been so. For example exegetes in the past could not explain why God The Merciful says that He sends iron from above, or what He means by "...the earth was a compact massa and We have ( made it burst ). ( between brackets because i don't know the exact translation ). Or about the end of the sun and the moon....or the countless other "mysteties" which are no longer mysteries because now scientifically explained. They used to say " God knows better". And God knows better why you are here talking the way you do about Allah The most merciful and His universal message. Only God knows what is in your soul that even you yourself don't know. I hope it is that deep rooted sense of the truth we all are born with, according to Islam, and that you will soon give up fighting against it, though you are not aware of this fight.
No it hasn't dreaming
A joy to listen to two broad minded, informed, and informative people who are genuinely interested in understanding the truth.
Thank you
I am from Holland and got utmost respect for him
A very very intelligent person. When he talks and gives dawah in Dutch he is very easy to understand and also has a lot of knowledge about history and also i am a big fan of you Paul:) May Allah give you both good health and increase your knowledge even more .ameen
Had je ook zo'n respect voor hem toen hij 7 jaar lang keiharde islamkritiek bedreef?
Alhamdulilah
@@elisabeth5285 people change man..
@CodeWeb well racism is everywhere unfortunally
@@elisabeth5285 het verleden is het verleden Elisabeth. God heeft hem geleid naar de waarheid wie zijn wij dan om te oordelen over ze verleden.. we hebben allemaal wel een verleden toch. Het gaat erom dat je berouw toont en goede daden verricht. Niemand is perfect.
It’s very inspiring dialogue and Joram has shed some interesting facts of the history in Poland. Keep your good work dear Bro Paul. May Allah Swt bless you both. Ameen.
Thank you 🙌
@@Sczxcksy001 yes he is, u can watch how he ended up reverting on his yt channel
May Allah bless brother Joram. 💚
It's always a treat to hear him, he is really knowledgeable.
Arabs hate blacks ---Allah allows sx with 5y old little girls th-cam.com/video/OfYbUsNMlng/w-d-xo.html
We have best scholars in islam in past from non arabs...scientists n poets
@@snowmoon7385 That's so true.
Your false Antichrist prophet was a pédophile
Salaam Alaikum br. Paul, thank you for bringing again br. Joram .
After the last interview , I bought the book APOSTATE , and bought one more to share with friends . Once I statred reading the book written by br. Joram I could not put it down until I finished it .
I do have a request to be made to br Joram , he should enter politics again and may Allah give him success and he will educate the uneducated in the parliament, regarding ISLAM .
Thanks for all your efforts br Paul. . May God bless you both with long life .
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Thanks Paul and Joram for this eye opening discussion, really appreciate all your effort.
O Allah please give comfort to our brothers and sisters that are in pain and suffering due to this calamity. Ameen
i could listen to joram for hours...he can talk with different perspectives which makes it so insightful
Glad to see him on Blogging Theology again. Thanks for inviting him.
btw, hoping to see Adnan Rashid and Dr. Ali Ataie on BT again.
Soon inshallah
"They condemn what do they not understand"
What a powerful phrase. O Muslim brothers and sisters, if you ever confront jerks, slap them with this phrase.
indeed.. one must always be patient and thoughtful especially with those who are opposed to us .. though it is difficult to control ones emotions ..but one must try ..
Joram has a very calming personality. There is a certain glow on his face, may allah protect you both
it's a joy to listen to two book-lovers. Very informative. Thanks Paul and Joram! Greetings from Indonesia
They condemn what they dont understand. No more explanations is needed. Thanks very much brother paul for conducting such quality interviews as they are very much needed for those who are living in the west not only muslims but also non muslims.
Thank you Paul again for your tremendous efforts having such wonderful guests. It is very helpful to keep updated with the current events in Europe. It is indeed worrying, but eventually let us not forget of what Allah says:
"They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it" 61:8.
And in turn the reversion of staunch enemies of Islam 😏
It's incredible to think this guy was ever such an enemy of Islam when you see how much peace he's at and how much he advocates Islam
M your viewer when you hv only 50k subscriber...
Great to see you growing , you deserve this Sir
😍🤩Looking forward to watching this, God Bless you both!
Edit: Very informative and clearly wise and educated insights from both gents. Fruitful as always.
Watching this video for several times and i still got insightful messages... Both of you brothers got soothing voice to my ears ;) Can't wait to hear another topic &discussion in future. Bravo bro Joram & bro Paul! Lots of love from Malaysia!
maa'shaa'Allah TabarkAllah the causer of causes ..
absolute gem you are mr Paul ..
and peace and blessings be upon the wonderful man joram ..may he and us remain steadfast and sincere to him who deserves all praise and worship..
peace and blessings be upon you mr paul..
Joram and Paul both r wonderful people doing excellent job.
Interesting conversation again.
Continue your good work Mr.Paul👌
Watching and listening from Malaysia. May Allah preserves and protects Bro Paul and Bro Joran Van Klaveren
@CHALLENGEChristianity 🤣🤣🤣 The country with the national embarassment eh?👌🥱
@CHALLENGEChristianity who is the only true god according to Jesus?
@CHALLENGEChristianity oh so growing infidels wow!!🥱👌
@CHALLENGEChristianity we don't have problem with Christianity growing there, christians are welcome to islamic countries, but Christianity is declining in western countries, go save your brothers there instead of blaming muslims
@CHALLENGEChristianity yes i know that, you can't build a church there in arab peninsula because it's a sacred land, just like Vatican, Mohammad pboh said to not turn or help to turn this sacred land to idolatry once again, i don't know if the hadith is talking about all peninsula or only Makkah & Medina, but it doen't mean a Christian can't live there in KSA
God bless you brother Paul and brother Yoram. Greetings from your brother from Jerusalem , and from AlAqsa Mosque.
A very worrying topic. But we should be grateful for people like Joram- may God bless you and help you in your efforts, brother ...
Discovered your channel recently and can't stop watching your videos. May ALLAH bless you.
This was a beautiful dialogue, really engaging and time went very quickly
This channel is awesome! Its politics, philosophy, literature reviews, theology, debate all rolled into one! Hats off to you sir!
Alhamdulillah
Muslim from the Philippines here.🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Thanks Paul and Joram for this knowledgeable discussion. A couple of points that really touched me:
1. Unlike in the US and some countries in Africa and Latin America where muslims have to deal with fundamentalist Christians, the focus of Dawah in the mostly-secular Europe should be on calling people towards belief in God.
2. Dawah should be more walk than talk; show people what belief in the one true God does. People read us before they read our book.
I just bought his book. I’m from the Netherlands and owwww Joram is so inspiring, intelligent and so humble. The people who speak Dutch know what I’m talking about. He’s so well spoken in Dutch and English. Much respect ❤️
this is one of the best youtube channels i have have come across.... thank you for your hard work you put into making these videos....
A very interesting discussion.Many thanks for you both : the interlocutor and the guest.
Mr. Karvelen , an apology if you have the opportunity to debate In Dutch universities do not hesitate to do so because many people are in a great need for it .I met a kind girl for a few hours she told me about her reverting to Islam and she was very happy,but when she returned to Neitherlands her father was against her reverting.He is a professor of religions and has false thoughts about Islam because of fake news promoted by bad media.
Very informative.
Thank you both.
Genghis Khan sent 3 sons to conquer northern Europe. One of the sons became Muslim and from him came the Tartars. What is now Ukraine, was their homeland called Crimea. Here Muslims lived peacefully with Jews and Christians.
These same tartars prevented Ivar the Terrible from conquering Mecca with the help of the Egyptian Mamluks.
I knew Muslims started to turn on each other, because of non-religious reasons, which was the main reason of the fall of the Ottomans. But I never ever knew they fought the Ottomans in Vienna. Nice one Joram.
This is awesome, Paul. Thanks so much!!
May Allah swt blessed both of you and grant the highest jannah. Ameeen
Masha'Allah.... you 2 guys are great and doing un imaginable work..!! Some people especially politicians have big HATE of Islam...
We who know the power of Islam are lucky... among the few... BUT you Brothers Paul & Joram are among the VERY FEW or rather i can say you could be messangers to Europe...!
You 2 have great knowledge.
YOU are chalanging great IGNORANCE in EUROPE somehow SIMILAR to ARABLANDS at the time of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).
Inshort.... May ALLAH protect you guys.This DUA from your Brother in Islam from Mombasa Kenya.
Alaways a pleasure to watch intelligent and smart people. Masha Allah
Great watch to start my morning thanks from the US
This is the best channel on Islam thanks again so informative
Why this channel has not got over a millions subscriber? We should push more.
I got "Apostate" and read from cover-to-cover. It is one of the best books I have ever read. It is easy to comprehend, logic, investigative & informative.
It goes with the reader narratively step-by-step from prologue to epilogue showing the journey of a "Beautiful Mind" to TRUTH.
Very informative and lines up with what you see happening not only in Europe but throughout its allies as well, may Allah protect the Muslims
Mashah Allah may Allah protect you all. We did not move anywhere until we complete long discussions. You are most lucky people. As a born Muslim, we feel very sad when we learn religious knowledge from you guys. Pls keep it.
Two beautiful brothers having beautiful coherent conversation. May Allah reward you both for your efforts!
Hope he becomes a regular on your channel! I learn a lot about Islam and the West whenever he's on. Need to get me a copy of Apostate.
Joram is a hero for bravery in quest of the truth
This guy is a genius, a lot of the stuff he says is extremely important he should write a book
He really is a genius and I would highly recommend his book!
Beautiful discussion with lot of information in it. Very much enjoyed it.
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “A time of patience will come to people in which adhering to one’s religion is like grasping a hot coal.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2260
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
A prophecy came true ayy?
Jazakallah khair for sharing this hadith
@CHALLENGEChristianity Yes. Problem?
Weak hadith
@CHALLENGEChristianity it’s from our prophet. Who had knowledge of the future by the permission of Allah
And yes it is definitely coming true . As liberalism takes over, more people leave religions , tempted by worldly glitter and glam. already. If you are a practicing Christian then you can see how it affects Christians. Very few western Christians are secular liberalists.
very happy to see both of you that you are speaking about the True religion of Islam which is faceing many trouble in the world . May Almighty Allah (swt) reward you both in Duniya and Akhira. Ameen 🤲❤️
Thank you Paul for the gigantic work you're been doing for the good of our Ummah, May Allah grant you paradise ❤️
9ol---Allah allows sx with 5y old little girls th-cam.com/video/OfYbUsNMlng/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Mr Joram Van Klavern for your valuable insight. Amazing session asusual gentlemen
Joram Van Klaveren... Excellent choice !
AssalamuAlaykum wrwb brother Paul!
I think we could have an entire series dedicated to the pre-modern relationships between European nations and Muslim Nations, the pre-colonial ones as well, from the Ottomans to the North African etc
This could be very interesting. Saved for later.
Great discussions thank you
assalam'alaikum to both of you from Jakarta. Very insightful indeed and listening to you like I'm updating myself the development of Islam in Europe. Waw!!! amazing development indeed. For example the three Gs in the Netherland, Islamic museum in Rotterdam, etc exactly like in Jakarta (north) an Islamic museum is now being built also. Great and I look forward to watching you both next time. Wassalam' alaikum wrwb.
Great to hear that you include indonesia as the example.of.moslem country but non-arabic. Yes, as we know islam is for all human being regardless countries, cultures etc
May Allah bless all of us
Very insightful conversation.
Assalamualaikum Paul & Jerome. Gretings from Indonesiarabia. Btw, the PRESIDENT of Singapore is the Hijabi Muslim Woman.
Barakallahu fik
Wa alaykumu s-salam
No matter how hard they try to supress the Islam...this religion will keep rising...higher and higher.. because Islam is the truth and eventually truth will reach out every household on earth.
If the God wills, it will keep rising as long as haters stop lying about our religion to make us look like bad people
it was amazing talk, thanks everyone
It was really good to listen to you, brothers. May Allah bless you.
Great episode, very informative and worrying developments in Europe
Wonderful discussion that should help,broaden peoples perspective. History should never be forgotten as it has always dictated the future. Many of the ideals, cultures, architecture, engineering principles etc in Europe is here thanks to the knowledge spread by Muslims.
Dear brother Paul Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet ❤
Thank you kindly
Glad to see Erik Ten Hag in Blogging Theology 👻
lol
Would be the best Wankchester Urinated manager ever
Thoroughly enjoyed learning through this conversation. Alhumdhulillah
Ma Sha Allah, fascinating and insightful!
thank you, dear Paul and Joram❤❤❤
Thank you so much for this informative discussion
I enjoyed listening your conversation! Good people can reverse prejudice and hatred!
Assalam Alaykum. Ma-shaa-allah what a great combination of presenters: brothers Paul and Joram. Really a great video, very easy to follow, scary but also inspiring because it shows if we (Muslims) engage properly, we could help bring back into Europe belief in God, family and sense of community that it has lost. Obviously Christianity has failed in Europe and without realising it Europeans are pining for it's replacement. Thanks so much for this wonderful discussion. May Allah SWT bless you both and everyone that contributed. 🤲🏽🤗
00.-----Allah allows sx with 5y old little girls th-cam.com/video/OfYbUsNMlng/w-d-xo.html
The surge in monkeypox cases across Europe have been linked to a Belgium fetish festival and a superspreader event at an adult sauna in Madrid, Spain.
Most of Spain's 30 cases have been associated with a sauna in the country's capital, according to officials. The region's health chief, Enrique Ruiz Escudero, told reporters that health officials detected a “notable proportion” of the European cases are in gay and bisexual men. While three cases in Belgium were linked to fetish festival Darklands in Antwerp.
We love you Brother Joram, InshaAllah Allah bless you.🇲🇨
100% extra ordinary journey , may god-Allah SWT protect this dutch man
May Allah Swt bless you both for this inspiring and thoughtful discussion; many many beautiful points discussed. Plz do continue these wonderful discussions…..
Amazing discussion, learned so much from you both.
Again I feel bleessed to have a brother in Britain called Paul, and in Nethrlands called Joram.
Two great guys .... may God bless
Amazing video. Learned a lot
His last appearance was interesting but this discussion was absolutely fascinating. You can make multiple shorts out of so many interesting facts that both of you mentioned throughout the video.
I always proud of our brother Joram here ❤ MasyaaAllah
Welcome to Islam my dear brother. You are so brave, leaving everything for Islam. May Allah swt give you reward here and here after.
I love your videos. Would you consider also publishing short versions of these with highlights? I share them but many people do not have patience or time to watch them in full
I really enjoyed it Thank you for this video and may Allah swt grant you both the highest jannah.
Sir Joran is so famous in my country...
and what country is your country? :)
@@sazalimohamedsalleh3970 Your annoying neighbor country sir,,,
@@sazalimohamedsalleh3970 what country is your country??
Should have been, "which country are you from?"
@@slickperspective2745 OK
@@sazalimohamedsalleh3970 holland
I love these two brothers they both put out so much on the front line.
Most non Muslims don't read the Qur'an and hadith They READ You!!! Greatest quote I've heard so so true
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.
Amazing and imaan boosting Alhamdulillah
Wa alaykumu s-salam
Great enlightening episode and a wonderful channel.. thank you very much
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great talk. I think the problem in Europe is also the problem im USA.
Regardless of what your religion as once said “ if you are tolerant for everything you stand for nothing”
Just on a note to Mr. Williams as a born muslim from makka living in nyc I am noticing a greater turn to religion in the west and the opposite im the muslim contries could be political could be freedom issues in the middle east.
I feel that the change of islam will come from the west to the east.
Statistically people are getting more religious in Arab countries though.
It was a joy listening to this podcast, very eye opening, more of this would be great not only in the English language, but also in Dutch, French, German, Spanish, etc.
Muslim communities need to understand this and act accordingly with the intellect that Allah (swt) gave us.
We need to make us heard and teach the general population that Islam is beautiful and it brings solutions to many deep problems among the now secularized populations ; and show the "eurocentric extremist nationalist biggots" how weak their arguments are in regards of criticizing the beautiful Islam.
Paul much appreciated for the work you put in, JazakAllah khair
we're lucky to have the two of you