This is so brilliant - previously I was told this trick only worked on white oak because of its tannins but adding your own tannin with the black tea is such a no brainer. Thank you for sharing!
You will get an even deeper and more convincing black when you use this on white oak, whose tannin content is a lot higher than red oak's. On white oak you probably won't need the tea, though you can use it to balance the color on an uneven board. Black walnut also responds super well to this treatment.
New to the channel. But you laid everything out and made everything known. I’ve seen a few videos. But never anything about the black tea. Subscribed. Thank you sir.
pressed subscribe the moment i saw that double clamp funnel holding solution. so simple so smart! Ebonizing oak is the only "staining" of oak acceptable imo!
Love this video - super helpful! I’ve found trying this out, you make make the solution much quicker if you use strong 20% vinegar - sometimes referred to as ‘cleaning vinegar’ Hope it helps - keep up the good stuff!
if you were using this on a chair how would you recommend sealing the stain in? do you need to worry about transfer of iron onto white clothing and would it help prolong the life of the color?
I'll definitely be using the black tea treatments inbetween from now on. Is there a shelf life on the iron acetate? Meaning after the 7 days it takes to make it? Awesome video
Don't wait for a week. Find enough old rusty nails nuts and bolts etc to fill a small jar. Fill with white vinegar and 2 or 3 hours later you are on your way
I do not know if you will see this but do you use two different sponge brushes or the same one and do you let the black tea dry before applying the iron acetate. Thank you if you do see this.
Nice, I'll try this with the black tea between each layer. I have to make a new pommel for my car and with its black and plastic interior any plain wooden pommel would look silly. This finish would keep the character of the wood and would fit perfectly into my car! Thanks a lot for the precious informations!
Is there a way to ebonize would so it's food safe? I wanted to do a checkered flag, end grain cutting board. Would this finish go deep enough to hold up? Thanks, Greg
Awesome info. Will this only work on specific wood types? Lets say doing this on brazillian rosewood having much denser characteristics. do you think this will work?
Iron(II) sulfate (copperas, green vitriol) gives the same effect without the stench and worries. After staining, the wood must be washed with a soda solution and water.
@@Crowhollowwoodworks thanks for this vid. Nice to see a video from someone who knows what they are doing (so many have absolutely no clue). Side note from a finishing specialist. Wax in itself is not a finish, it's a finish 'conditioner'. It will dissipate over time. You'll need a sealer/finish. Which finish will depend on how the piece will be used or what you want to bring out in the wood. A shelf (light duty) might only need an oil finish, whereas a kitchen table or chair (heavy duty) would benefit from a more durable finish like urethane or lacquer.
Very nice color indeed. I get more reddish tone when using this, but I saw a few things I made different. Thanks for sharing! Happy to found your channel! :-)
From watching other videos out there, the red-ish stuff should just wipe off. It's the "rust" from the steel wool, which shouldn't soak into the wood. I've never tested this, but, like I said, others have said that who have used this method.
As a guitar builder, I've been looking for ways to ebonize rosewood and maple. Stains, dyes, and inks don't seem to really do the job. Black tea and iron acetate just might.
I just made the mix and it didn't darken right away at all. I think because it is alcohol vinegar. This destilated vinegar that you use is hard to find here in Europe. will it work with this alcohol vinegar? ...we wil see in a week!
Why is it that when i pour white vinegar onto that steel wool, it doesn’t change color instantly like how it is in the video, and even after a couple of hours the solution is still clear even after I shaked it?
I believe I used. just one pad that was all pulled apart, but you could try it with two. One quart of vinegar will only dissolve so much, and the rest will be filtered out anyway.
Hi, great video, I want to make a guitar fretboard dark but I'm afraid if I use this method I'll get all my fingers stained to the touch, how can I avoid that?
I made my gun stock black unintentionally, I used steel wool and vinegar and rubbing alcohol to remove the old finish but it turned black, how can I get rid of black stain? Thanks
@yggjbkbygames4923 thanks for your reply but I got it fixed by this cleaner called Bar keepers friend. I am not an expert and I don't recommend this to anyone but my stock had turned black as a result of oxidation and it wasn't a stain, but this product worked for me surprisingly.
I don't use Black Tea in my solution and I get a Jet Black finish every time. One coat only. I probably mix mine stronger using a higher concentrate vinegar and more steel wool.
Why would you put a hole in a mason jar? The whole point of the design is to let pressure escape all you have to do is not tighten the lid all the way.
If you’re still wondering, iron acetate is in fact considered a stain/dye. It’s just a traditional, easy to make stain with materials most people have at home. You can also use old nails in a jar instead of steel wool like the French typically do for an even easier recipe
This is' How to ebonize red oak' not how to ebonize wood. This does not work for many species. I thought I was going to learn something here. One word does make a difference.
@@dwightl5863 you make no sense. The gases in the vinegar and steel wool mixture needs to escape. If you turn the lid upside down the seal of the lid will not block the gases from escaping. When you are done and would like to use the lid for canning you can flip it around. He’s not canning the vinegar and steel wool.
@@Dragondezznuts I fully understand what you are accomplishing by having the lid upside down so it doesn't seal. Just saying I don't think it is a good idea to use the same lid for preserving food. Why risk the chance of contaminating food with vinegar/steel wool solution. Save the lid and jar for another batch or whatever.
Excellent video! I always wondered how this dark finish was accomplished. Ebonized wood and stone interiors bring out the best in each other. images.app.goo.gl/FsE9UqadQzMPxf7HA
This is so brilliant - previously I was told this trick only worked on white oak because of its tannins but adding your own tannin with the black tea is such a no brainer. Thank you for sharing!
No problem at all, happy to help!
Many videos out there with this method, but you actually took the time to show the how-to of the acetate. I thank you for the thoroughness!
Thank you Andrew, happy to help.
You can speed up the process by adding hydrogen peroxide to the vinegar. I still waited about a week to use it though.
Interesting... and thanks.
You will get an even deeper and more convincing black when you use this on white oak, whose tannin content is a lot higher than red oak's. On white oak you probably won't need the tea, though you can use it to balance the color on an uneven board. Black walnut also responds super well to this treatment.
New to the channel. But you laid everything out and made everything known. I’ve seen a few videos. But never anything about the black tea. Subscribed. Thank you sir.
Your video is very well laid out, concise and informative. Thank you.
pressed subscribe the moment i saw that double clamp funnel holding solution. so simple so smart! Ebonizing oak is the only "staining" of oak acceptable imo!
Thank you!
Love this video - super helpful!
I’ve found trying this out, you make make the solution much quicker if you use strong 20% vinegar - sometimes referred to as ‘cleaning vinegar’
Hope it helps - keep up the good stuff!
When I was looked into cleaning vinegar it was full of chemicals. Strange as I was, corn wasn't one of the ingredients listed.
if you were using this on a chair how would you recommend sealing the stain in? do you need to worry about transfer of iron onto white clothing and would it help prolong the life of the color?
I'll definitely be using the black tea treatments inbetween from now on. Is there a shelf life on the iron acetate? Meaning after the 7 days it takes to make it? Awesome video
Kick ass video.
Deep yet simplistic.
Thanks for the detailed tutorial
Don't wait for a week. Find enough old rusty nails nuts and bolts etc to fill a small jar. Fill with white vinegar and 2 or 3 hours later you are on your way
Thanks very much I need to do this as I am making a red oak campaign chest with ebonitzed accents . Very appreciated.
Awesome, glad I could help. Good luck with the chest, I love campaign furniture👍🏻
by far better than the black stain I used in the past. I've got to give it a try
Great to hear! I’ve used a homemade walnut stain in the past also, it darkened the wood but it just sort of looked dirty haha
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Yes, I've heard that another alternatve is india ink. but I find this better at first sight
I do not know if you will see this but do you use two different sponge brushes or the same one and do you let the black tea dry before applying the iron acetate. Thank you if you do see this.
Nice, I'll try this with the black tea between each layer. I have to make a new pommel for my car and with its black and plastic interior any plain wooden pommel would look silly. This finish would keep the character of the wood and would fit perfectly into my car! Thanks a lot for the precious informations!
Awesome!
That was rad!
Thank you!
Is there a way to ebonize would so it's food safe? I wanted to do a checkered flag, end grain cutting board. Would this finish go deep enough to hold up?
Thanks, Greg
if you want consistent Tannin source go to a homebrew shop and buy the tanin there, is used to improve wine and add flavor to cider.
I'm trying this with a non oak axe handle (had to de rust a bunch of tools might as well use the left overs)
Very informative. Thank you.
Brilliant, can you do this to golden oak cabinets or does it only work on plain not previously stained oak. Tks
Well done thanks
Thanks! Looking forward to trying this!
Amazing video, man! Can I finish it with Tung oil?
Thank you! Should be able to.
Brilliant! Does it wear well? I assume so as the colour is under the surface as well?
Awesome info. Will this only work on specific wood types? Lets say doing this on brazillian rosewood having much denser characteristics. do you think this will work?
Iron(II) sulfate (copperas, green vitriol) gives the same effect without the stench and worries. After staining, the wood must be washed with a soda solution and water.
Thanks for the info👍🏻
Can you please advise on what to seal the finished Ebonized wood with? I have an antique wood table and I want a satin type finish.
I love the look, but I hesitate to try it on the furniture because of the smell. How bad is it?
Is it possible to finnish it off with some lineseed oil? To protect the black Color and the wood
Yes, that would be a good finish.
my steel wool and vinegar solution didn't get brownish when i combined them, how concentrated is your vinegar?
At the beginning of the video you can see what brand he uses. I think it’s says 5% acidity.
Thanks for the video. How do you recommend sealing the finished ebonized wood? Does this process create a natural seal/durable finish?
Boiled linseed oil, danish oil, or plain wax would work great. A regular varnish finish should work just fine also.
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks, I'm looking forward to trying it out!
@@Crowhollowwoodworks thanks for this vid. Nice to see a video from someone who knows what they are doing (so many have absolutely no clue).
Side note from a finishing specialist. Wax in itself is not a finish, it's a finish 'conditioner'. It will dissipate over time. You'll need a sealer/finish. Which finish will depend on how the piece will be used or what you want to bring out in the wood. A shelf (light duty) might only need an oil finish, whereas a kitchen table or chair (heavy duty) would benefit from a more durable finish like urethane or lacquer.
Would I need to add some other finish at the end if the wood will have direct contact with the skin for couple of hours per day?
Yes. Like a poly finish or varnish
Thanks so much for this video, very informational.
Thanks!
How deep does the color penetrate? And will this work with African mahogany?
How long should I wait between layers?
What would you use to give it a clear coat?
Thank you !
Can I use this technique for OBS plywood as well?
Not sure how the glue would affect the color saturation, you might try a smaller piece and see how it turns out.
will these finsih bleed or rub off without a clear coat? what would be the best clear coat? wipe-on or spray?
No, it doesn't rub off
Very nice color indeed. I get more reddish tone when using this, but I saw a few things I made different.
Thanks for sharing! Happy to found your channel! :-)
Glad I could help! Hopefully I’ll be adding some more content in the near future.
From watching other videos out there, the red-ish stuff should just wipe off. It's the "rust" from the steel wool, which shouldn't soak into the wood. I've never tested this, but, like I said, others have said that who have used this method.
@@TheOrcasRule yes and the iron smell is strong. If I get it on my fingers it smells all day like pennies.
nice video . do the solution penetrate deep in to the wood or just 1 or 2 mm in surface ?
As a guitar builder, I've been looking for ways to ebonize rosewood and maple. Stains, dyes, and inks don't seem to really do the job. Black tea and iron acetate just might.
Hopefully it works for what you are looking for!
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Nothing seems to yield a true ebony look. India ink seems to work best for darkening.
I just made the mix and it didn't darken right away at all. I think because it is alcohol vinegar. This destilated vinegar that you use is hard to find here in Europe. will it work with this alcohol vinegar? ...we wil see in a week!
Did it work
Would this wood be food safe?
Is this recommended on guitar fretboards
Why is it that when i pour white vinegar onto that steel wool, it doesn’t change color instantly like how it is in the video, and even after a couple of hours the solution is still clear even after I shaked it?
Would this make the wood poisonous or unsafe in anyway ? Like if something/someone chewed it ?
I’m curious about this too. For instance, would it be safe to use ebonized wood on a cutting board?
This is not a food safe finish.
What's the approximate ratio of steel wool to vinegar? That looked like about 2 "standard" size steel wool pads to one quart vinegar?
I believe I used. just one pad that was all pulled apart, but you could try it with two. One quart of vinegar will only dissolve so much, and the rest will be filtered out anyway.
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks for clarifying! I guess I need to watch more closely ;-)
Is this safe for spoons?
I don’t believe so.
Will this work on sanded veneer?
Hi, great video, I want to make a guitar fretboard dark but I'm afraid if I use this method I'll get all my fingers stained to the touch, how can I avoid that?
You could look at sealing it with a flat spray based finish, that should prevent it from coming off. Or a wax maybe.
Do you wait for the black tea to dry before applying the acetate solution?
No, just leave a few minutes to soak in
Would this be good to do on knife handles?
No, it would be perfect!
I made my gun stock black unintentionally, I used steel wool and vinegar and rubbing alcohol to remove the old finish but it turned black, how can I get rid of black stain?
Thanks
I am not an expert so I am just guessing but I think the only way to remove it is by sanding it down until it disappears
@yggjbkbygames4923 thanks for your reply but I got it fixed by this cleaner called Bar keepers friend. I am not an expert and I don't recommend this to anyone but my stock had turned black as a result of oxidation and it wasn't a stain, but this product worked for me surprisingly.
What type of wood is the big piece ?
Red oak, same as the others.
@@Crowhollowwoodworks Thanks!
How long did you wait for each coat to dry?
Just to touch, it’s mostly water so it doesn’t take long to dry.
Is this food safe?
Nice!
Jens Barsöe thank you!
Does it smell?
It does smell like vinegar.
and then oil it?
I made 3 glasses of steel wool and vinegar and it doesn’t turn my wood black.
Is this finish food safe?
It is not.
What you can do to achieve a similar look is the Shou Sugi Ban method. Finish with mineral oil.
Why not use a charcoal color stain instead of this ?
I don't use Black Tea in my solution and I get a Jet Black finish every time. One coat only. I probably mix mine stronger using a higher concentrate vinegar and more steel wool.
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Why would you put a hole in a mason jar? The whole point of the design is to let pressure escape all you have to do is not tighten the lid all the way.
Great video, but honestly, that looks way to dark! It's as if the wood were just painted black. It's really hard to even make out the grain.
You could vary the amount of times you apply it to the wood, or even vary the concentration of the black tea, to get different levels of dark.
Can you not just add the tea to the solution?
Why not just use black stain please?
If you’re still wondering, iron acetate is in fact considered a stain/dye. It’s just a traditional, easy to make stain with materials most people have at home. You can also use old nails in a jar instead of steel wool like the French typically do for an even easier recipe
Vinny Paul........
can i do this 100% northern white birch anyone???
You might have to add a lot of black tea to it to get enough tannin for it to change color, and even then I’m not sure how dark it would get.
How to Fokkerize wood.
This is' How to ebonize red oak' not how to ebonize wood. This does not work for many species. I thought I was going to learn something here. One word does make
a difference.
Tip: if you flip the lid upside down it will allow the gas to escape and keep the lid for canning later.
Canning is used for preserving food. I don't think I'd be so cheap as to reuse a lid that had been exposed to this solution for canning food. IMHO
@@dwightl5863 you make no sense. The gases in the vinegar and steel wool mixture needs to escape. If you turn the lid upside down the seal of the lid will not block the gases from escaping. When you are done and would like to use the lid for canning you can flip it around. He’s not canning the vinegar and steel wool.
@@Dragondezznuts I fully understand what you are accomplishing by having the lid upside down so it doesn't seal. Just saying I don't think it is a good idea to use the same lid for preserving food. Why risk the chance of contaminating food with vinegar/steel wool solution. Save the lid and jar for another batch or whatever.
@@dwightl5863 to each his own I guess.
Excellent video! I always wondered how this dark finish was accomplished.
Ebonized wood and stone interiors bring out the best in each other.
images.app.goo.gl/FsE9UqadQzMPxf7HA