Is Dismantling the Zemsky Sobor the WORST Soviet Path? - Hoi4

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  • @BubblesZest
    @BubblesZest  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I really wanted to have the thumbnail be just "Yes" but as the answer was a tiny bit more nuanced than that we've ended up here, but one day that will be needed and that'll be a good day for me. Anyway, I was going to say it was a surprise it's taken so long for me to play this monarchist path again, but then I realized. Oh no, it isn't. Whoops.

  • @eze0430
    @eze0430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Master impact basically just reduces the autonomy of puppet states automatically. Its a positive thing to have if you use puppets.

  • @MapletreePaper
    @MapletreePaper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Cowed by Stalin ❌
    Cow'd by Stalin ✅

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Moo.

    • @nono_real04
      @nono_real04 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Moo

    • @austria-hungary7680
      @austria-hungary7680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Moo

    • @genzedaph
      @genzedaph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Moo

    • @Elyseon
      @Elyseon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stalin dropping cows on people now?

  • @yoshihammerbro435
    @yoshihammerbro435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I think a reason for removing monarchist sympathizer might have something to do with the fact that many of those generals came from the soviet civil war. It would just be like "oh ya those people we fought against and destroyed ya I just randomly support them now"

    • @АрхивСпутника
      @АрхивСпутника 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last time I played Russian civil war I ended up with 0 generals, only White Fields which is ridiculous because new generals still costed around 70 command power

  • @Lemmonny
    @Lemmonny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    i got confused at first when i saw the title cause the zemsky sobor was not a soviet thing but an imperial russian thing so i thought it was gonna be a video about going communist as the russian empire for some reason

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      This would be possible if Paradox hadn't disabled the communist referendum.

    • @donpollo3154
      @donpollo3154 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Mladorossi moment

    • @Lady_Amelia-Eloise
      @Lady_Amelia-Eloise 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@donpollo3154you can actually hire Kazembek as an advisor if you want Mladarossi Russian empire

    • @piment0_420
      @piment0_420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Lady_Amelia-Eloisereally? is name or flag diffrent? has anyone mada a video on it?

    • @valerijssurvilo
      @valerijssurvilo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@piment0_420 nope just an advisor that simultaneously adds monarchist and communist support

  • @Labargoth
    @Labargoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Gotta love PDX having parts of their focus tree paths broken and never fixing them, because all they focus on is the wacky monarchist trees that most TH-camrs love and play to death.

    • @yoshihammerbro435
      @yoshihammerbro435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Ikr, like it's a WW2 game not crusader kings or whatever

    • @socire72
      @socire72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      for real, like why the fuck does it even exist.

    • @yaboi672
      @yaboi672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@socire72 because monarchism is based

  • @Lady_Amelia-Eloise
    @Lady_Amelia-Eloise 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    3:48 i disagree the German civil war is perfect the way it is, because having to fight a civil war where by the time its over the 2nd world war has already started. Also Germanys is easier because you don’t have to push across Siberia with no supply
    Instead of nerfing Germany, buff the provisional government

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Germany is insanely easy and buffed. You don't have to make any preparation. Just one day Msckenson woke up from his bed and "you know what? Lets f*ck nazis" this is ridicilous
      Also like he says Germany's repair boost gives you more consumer goods penalty and actually Germany is already insanely op country repair itself before reach focus. So yes Germany needs to nerf

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@doctorwhat779 Disagree, since the game heavily relies upon Germany's actions to generate tension and conflict, you need them to get through the civil war quickly, and regain their strength fast afterwards, or otherwise the game outright breaks to the point of becoming a total snoozefest.

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@vahlen5281 this is also another problem. I think they should ai a bit more compenent to follow their ahistorical paths. So shen Germany fall into civil war UK, France, Italy or Soviets should take its role. I really get bored insanely op Germany as any ideology

  • @giulianopisciottano8302
    @giulianopisciottano8302 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I mean, can't you just take the war goals and dismantle the faction, then do the Berlin Moscow axis?

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sure, but at that point you may as well just join the Axis and justify wargoals. It doesn't make it look any better.

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah also you can reach some stuff of romanov wargoals but I think his point is unique things of fascist path is really useless

  • @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
    @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I went this path because the leader looks like my history teacher

  • @engels754
    @engels754 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Still not fixed... I usually use the fascist Russian path to speed up my expension in the west. It also allows you to join the Axis without the Berlin-Moscow-Axis focus, good relations fully suffice to join them. Later in the game I do the Third-Rome and flip it fascist for a cool black third-Rome flag. Sad that its so useless, one would have expected more.

  • @maozedong69420
    @maozedong69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    5:43 What did bro do to you 😭😭😭

  • @DawidKov
    @DawidKov 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best way I found of doing the non-communist Russia is to actually go democratic. The game doesn't want you to, and has no actual path for it, but you can.
    Ban fascism as soon as you can. Only do the civil war tree up to Unification of the Exiles, then go full onto the right part with the Article 124 and down even before the civil war begins. Don't pick the Chita decision. Trigger the war through paranoia going over 90%, best way is to get it to 60% and then wait for Stalin to do the Terrorist Center focus. You get a random spawn for your capital, which can potentially be right next to Moscow (I once spawned in Nizhniy Novgorod for example, which is damn close).
    With this path, you can start the civil war in the summer of 36 and potentially win it before spring of 37 (though this one's down to luck and exploits, still, most of the time I managed it in autumn of 37 at the latest). You skip the entire left side of the political branch of the tree while moving ahead with the other half, so Zemsky Sobor doesn't take half a year to get to. You get all the monarchist focuses but a democratic tension limit and alliances.
    It's still significantly shittier than any of the communist paths, but it's better than non-aligned or fascist.

    • @BubblesZest
      @BubblesZest  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You literally quoted my own video back to me, I made this strat. I wrote the book on Democratic Russia.

  • @rembojy
    @rembojy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't seem find any information about it but has anyone else encountered a "military coup" event in USSR after Beriya comes to power due to Stalin's assasination?
    And then a general "Kuzma Galitsky" comes to power. I never ever saw it before and I can't find any info on him for hoi4

    • @prohacker5086
      @prohacker5086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I think random generals were able to become leader through some paths. There was even a wacky way to put a spanish volunteer general in charge of soviet union.

  • @viligerm6592
    @viligerm6592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate it when Paradox doesn't fix focus trees

  • @lewy-jj2eo
    @lewy-jj2eo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I once did the tsarist civil war and managed to get blessed by the hoi4 gods and the only general that detected was zhokov (not sure if that's how to spell it)

  • @noahjohnson935
    @noahjohnson935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    since its possible to make a general the leader of the Soviet Union, is it theoretically posisble to have Tukachevsky in charge?

  • @Kartikoberoi15
    @Kartikoberoi15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Election in july 1937 but the date in game is 12 oct 1938😂😂

  • @DeutschSozialUnion
    @DeutschSozialUnion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk last week I went Fascist as Russia, joined the axis took over Turkey early game, and defeated the Allies, invaded Finland Sweden and baltics, took out the tuvans, sikiang and Mongolia and then joined with Japan and Germany to fight USA

  • @kidfox3971
    @kidfox3971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not really since it lets you join the Axis, meaning youre free to expand everywhere besides West.

  • @Phantlos
    @Phantlos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Bubbles. Is the right oppozition still the best path? Considering you no longer can get under 10% consumer goods no matter what you do...

    • @Nexsyana
      @Nexsyana 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's good because you can do the bloodless coup, and you also get better puppets.

  • @Ratich
    @Ratich 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so weird you don't get a democratic path as Russia.

  • @Tzarscord
    @Tzarscord 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play dismantle zemsky sobor all the time and i never go down that path because the other one is better imo either way

    • @Tzarscord
      @Tzarscord 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (by that path i mean both berlin-moscow alliance and into central asia)

  • @fredericchopin4821
    @fredericchopin4821 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zemsky Bobr

  • @skille3805
    @skille3805 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bubblezest can you do what's the point of anti fascist coalition as France?

  • @Riskystache
    @Riskystache 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does Poland own half of Lithuania at 10:42 ?

    • @maozedong69420
      @maozedong69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For some weird reason if you go monarchist as Germany or Russia, Poland will invade Lithuania for no reason even with historical on.
      This and/or UK will declare war on Norway/Sweden.

    • @doctorwhat779
      @doctorwhat779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      there is focus at lithuanian focus tree which ask soviets "hey, can I get vilnus when you guys split poland into two" but when Soviets or Germany goes unhistorical it just turns a wargoal agains Poland. So probably Lithuania used it, capitulated and lost some states. Idk why but Poland always took a few states and left Lithuania alive

    • @austria-hungary7680
      @austria-hungary7680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@doctorwhat779when world tension is high enough Lithuania justifies on Poland for wilno. Idk why Lithuania is left alive, but if Germany invades, it takes the states that Poland doesn't. When Japan beats china, it takes its claims, gives mengkukuo its cores, and makes a Chinese puppet, bur for some damn reason leaves Ma alive in the same 2 states and Xinjiang untouched and justifies on them one at a time, idk why the Japanese Ai does this but PDX needs to fix some of these things.

    • @Riskystache
      @Riskystache 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting thank you guys for the information

  • @yernoi2167
    @yernoi2167 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fight japan first, you get a lot of tools to built and refit your navy and japanese one as well.

  • @vertixz
    @vertixz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why do you sound exactly like Wheat Waffles

  • @Elyseon
    @Elyseon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Typical Paradox. Pushing out broken overpriced badly designed DLCs and moving on to the next one instead of fixing their shit.

  • @salamander5865
    @salamander5865 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi 😇