I did a couple of these oil fills on cheapo casios I got to practice dial customization and some other mods. They look brilliant but I was worried about the battery life so I ran some probes into one of them and found the current draw was 3-4 times higher after the oil fill as the movement has to work harder to keep time. This means a three year battery will last about 10 months in 50ct oil. Also make sure the crown is fitted but in the out position as you tighten the back otherwise the hydraulic pressure that can be caused as the back closes can pop the front glass off!
Couple of months on and the dial prints have faded quite a bit faster than I would have expected. They were cheapo transfer types rather than tampo prints (these were just trial pieces) but I would had be expected years not months before fade became noticeable. I wonder if the oil dissolves the inks?
Silicone oil is 'minimally reactive,' meaning the likelihood of stripping dyes and paints are minimal in relation to mineral oils. However, this doesn't mean that it's 100% non-reactive; as an oil, it's eventually going to strip and fade any reactive dye (ie, 99.9% of colored dials and markers in watches.) This is why you don't see anyone doing these to expensive watches; the hydromod began as a purposeful mod done by divers in the fifties who couldn't afford a Fifty Fathoms or Rolex, and needed to quickly increase the density of a minimally waterproof cheap watch like a Timex or Caravelle in order to use once for a deep dive. Afterwards, the watch got tossed, as it was now basically useless for everyday wear.
Marvin, I agree. After the faded test dial last year I got curious... I made up about 30 vials and put a bit of brass with a different combination of dial printing type in each, with various fluids. Transfer print, sublimation print, acrylic paint, enamel paint, different undercoats, lacquers etc. Some vials got silicone oil, some got flourinert, some just air. Left most in the sun, hid some away as controls. Learnt a lot. Main takeaways were that silicone oil accelerated fading in sunlight but made no difference in dark. The transfer inks performed worst, then acrylic. Sublimation wasn't affected and was still looking as good as the control a year later. Enamel was fine as were quality artists acrylics. Put some lume on some of them and found super luninova changed colour a bit when it got wet but still glows fine. Glow in the dark plastic was unaffected. If you are doing this, either punch dial markers from thin sheet or buy ones with glow already in them and it'll look great. Also flourinert caused less fading but it's horrible and escapes from pretty much any enclosure. It will certainly get out of normal crown seals over a few months and will pass through some plastics and rubbers. I suspect the vapour is nasty. Not for mods - don't go near it unless you are making a metal case specifically to contain it.
Great! I just watched a video of an oil filled Pulsar quartz! No damage to 800 Bar! Now I know I can dive to nearly the bottom of the Puerto Rican trench ( 24,000 ft ) with no worries!
You know it’s funny that there are two points of view from this video(I also just did one on the vaer solar diver) and you either love it or hate it. Not sure why people hate it
Maybe just buy a U-Boat. I did, I bought the cheapest one in their range because I liked it the best. I’ve changed the battery once via the cover of the separate battery chamber. The clarity of the watch is off the scale and with the expantion bubble you get a free spirit level. I’ve never owned a watch that has recived so many comments, I love it.
After a year of doing this to a couple of watches, they all stopped running. They were quartz watches. I did it to 6 watches of different brands. Some leaked little by little, and they all stopped eventually. I absolutely love the look, but they stopped. So I stopped doing it to the new watches I bought. I did try to change batteries on them, nothing.
I get it. I never had a problem leaking for changing the battery in the Mathey. Here’s a link to show about 6 months later. I compare it to another non-oil watch. Both changing the time as well as water resistance. I’d say try again… th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
In digital watches, ok. But when you put oil at the movement, the some parts needs more power to slide. Yes, the battery will shortly end and the accuracy will not be the same... Talking about dive, the watch with oil will increases the limits!
When I changed the battery recently, I just filled a small container with oil and changed everything underneath to avoid bubbles in the future. It was pretty easy.
I have reservations about doing this to one of my watches. My collection is small and I saved up to get what I got. Not sure I want to gamble on my abilities or whether the watch movement can handle this mod. Also, I'm not sure what the point is, I'm not a saturation diver, but to each their own. Have fun. 😂
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I just did this and yes, it so easy. I did the Casio and it looks amazing. Thanks for the tutorial. (mine's been running fine a few weeks and I used mineral oil for cutting boards.)
Having some experience using mineral oil for PCs, I would advise against it. Mineral oil will make any plastic or rubber components brittle over time and will accelerate the eventual destruction of the watch. I do not have experience with silicone oil so cannot say it's long term effects.
Does it works on any watch? What kind of watch we should avoid doing this? And what are the cons of filling oil inside watch? Great content brother! Neat explanation❤ happy to find your channel!
I'm glad you checked it for accuracy, but it just seems like the increased viscosity would slow down the watch. Any long term results on this? I love the look!
Watch needed a battery change about 2 years in. I recently did the same thing to a Vaer Solar dive, check it out on the channel, so a battery change is not necessary
@@rehakmate Water WILL get in when the crown is out for time adjustment. They always say always ensure the crown is secure before allowing the watch to get wet.
hello I have a U-boat rainbow watch. The watch battery ran out and the oil decreased during the replacement process. While looking around, I came across your video. Ask if you can fill the U-boat rainbow watch with oil in the same way. Please reply.
Yes, if the Watch itself was first filled with oil, use the same oil that I recommend. If you like the look, I’ve also done this on a vaer solar so that I never have to replace the battery The U-Boat purposely had a bubble in it so make sure you don’t overly fill it
You can technically time an additional time zone without a gmt function. The standard hour hand acts as the first time zone, the 24 hour bezel can then be adjusted to should an additional time zone either ahead or behind.
I do this very thing a year later after having the watch. Watch the video you’ll see me do complete functionality setting the time and it has never leaked once. th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7epJ1zv9Gl3i0Qr_
I have changed the battery. Nothing other than maybe a shorter battery life. I have a Vaer dive watch in route, solar quartz, which I am reviewing then re-doing the oil filling video. It’s older and needs updating. But the solar is to make sure the battery never has to be changed.
No, there is an internal gasket. What the video below, I go through how it doesn’t leak in real time th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Rv7sryjJ7wMmQr3G
It is not a screw down but offers 50 meters for water resistance. Here is a link where I show all the functions showing it does not leak th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
I've got a MT rolly GMT, I would be terrified to fill it with oil. But It does look great though, especially with that crystal. I think on the down side, youre going to have a messy battery change
@@melody3741 apart from the fact this in time will possibly destroy the quartz movement and the seals in this watch. This is not a technique for any mechanical watch, would love to see the hair spring on the balance operate, rotor and gear train operate if anyone did 😂🤣
@@a0r0a7 I have doubts a mechanical watch would even run at all once submerged in that oil. Why do suppose this would ruin the gaskets though? Many rubber gaskets actually get improved longevity when regularly exposed to light oils.
@@Strideo1 Of course a mechanical watch would not run. A sticky hairspring because of oil on a balance will make a mechanical watch run super fast or not at all. As for the gaskets, depends on the oil used.
I did in this video, there’s no leaking, no issues. I also show the watch underwater, because the oil also makes it more water resistant. th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
It would be interesting to do it on a solar watch and see if the solar cells still recharge the battery. Also if the watch includes a small LCD display, can that LCD still be read?
That’s not necessarily true. An additional 24 hour hand, like a gmt Ads a third time zone, not a second. So using the 24 hour bezel, you can adjust a second time zone using the standard hour hand.
Nothing so far, I really love though the way the Dial image pushes out against the curved crystal. I am still considering getting a 200 m diver and then doing the same thing
Apparently using silicone oil turns the lime yellow, however others use a another oil which doesn't do that and more runnier but is like 40 dollars per bottle
Basically just looks, but it does increase the water resistance rating quite a bit. Water intrusion is basically impossible because it’s filled with oil which is far more dense
Define water proof. Every watch has a level of waterproof resistance. My recommendation is 50 m and you’ll be fine. Even if you choose a watch that is a timex for example with only 30 m of water resistance, it would still work
Most the time, 99% of the time the case is the exact same. The only thing you have to be careful of is the movement holder, and the movement crown stem being the right length. Everything else should line Up just fine
Yeah, it’s gonna improve the legibility of any watch. I am doing this video again with a solar watch and updating it. Stay tuned. It’ll release in a couple weeks
Not that I’ve noticed. An argument can be made it may take the life of the battery down a few months. But is it the oil or the battery? As for the accuracy, I haven’t noticed a real change
@@allthingsrandom8137 that’s interesting. Thank u for thr reply. Yes, I later came across the battery life comment too. Interesting. It seems quite a deal breaker if it were only 10 months after all the hassle and rinse n repeat. But good experiment and also historical use for scuba. I’ll be trying it on my Patek for tomorrow’s dive.
It definitely does not, I will leave a link to a video where I compare it to a normal watch and I go through all the functions and you can see that there’s no leakage at all th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
Did I miss something. You don't explain why you would do this. What is the benefit of doing this? Would this not cause a problem when you press the button - ie: a Casio?
It helps in a few ways, not only does it project the dial on the inside of the crystal, making it easier to read, underwater, and easier to read above water, but it also improves of water resistance rating of your watch As the viscosity of the oil is heavier and more dense, it makes it so water can’t intrude into the case And there is no leakage whenever you change the time or use a button.
Hi, i have a blancpain villeret 40mm watch in stainless steel 2 years old (2020) watch and i noticed that it is stiff when i try to wind it. It has 72 hours power reserve. Example: When i wind it, it is tight.. I have to pull out the crown then i have to push it back in, in order for it to be buttery smooth when i wind it. It keeps excellent time BUT it is just stiff/tight if i wind it without pulling out the crown and pushing it back in first.. feels like resistance.. Any idea on what could it be? I dont have warranty. My jlc reverso is so smooth , i dont have to pull out crown and push back in for it to be smooth wind. Do you think with silicone grease on the crown seal/gasket will make it better?
I don’t think I would do anything that I wasn’t 100% sure of. The gasket may be dry and that’s why it’s resistance when it’s pushed all the way in. A little silicone is not gonna hurt, Just be very conservative about the amount you use
Honestly, it’s easier than putting in the oil initially. Because as long as you keep a watch completely submerged, when you’re disassembling to place a new battery in it, there won’t be any more bubbles
@@ckkbleev You have to top up the oil before putting the case back on. The pain is having the oil and changing the battery frequently on any watch with a second hand.
Please don't try this with a mechanical watch. It can be done, but only if the dial side and the movement side are completely closed off from one another, which is very often not the case.
Yeah. I like it, but not with the bubble.. I get why, but… I’m getting a Vaer dive watch in soon. I am doing that watch as well… better video… stay tuned
@@Williamchan87 I think by now the only ones who managed to do this are the guys at Ressence, but at 20k$ minimum they're not exactly cheap... Plus the movement is well separated by the oil filled part and (if I remember right) the motion is transferred from the movement to the oil filled part with no contacts (magnetically)
I found a watch in the dirt it's a psycho very old and I put a battery in it after I cleaned it up now it doesn't it doesn't take should I put oil in it or I don't know what to do
th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html All then way. It’s an internal gasket, so there’s no issue. Here’s a video where I actually just the time six months after it’s been filled
Aesome video, thanks! Does the oil come out when you pull out the crown to adjust the time or date? Is it best to only attempt this on screw down crown watches?
@@allthingsrandom8137 The only other potential issue is changing the time. I’m guessing it’ll leak oil when you pull the crown out. Maybe it would work with an atomic radio or Bluetooth one, although that might get expensive if it fails!
@@allthingsrandom8137 I did it, it worked really well. I'm lucky to have a vacuum chamber (used in cooking) and so didn't even need to disassemble the watch. I just placed the watch in an oil bath (I used 20 cSt), put the whole thing in a vacuum chamber and all the air boiled out. Here is a before and after, no batteries to change! :) th-cam.com/video/DTlQGnp6Qp4/w-d-xo.html
Sadly you will at some point need the capacitor changed in any solar or kinetic watch. Capacitors don't last forever either. So changing the capacitor will be a messy business just like a battery change.
Kevin Kuntz in this video I actually show when you unscrew and adjust the time nothing happens. It’s a little more than halfway through th-cam.com/video/uQzUaD5p9rU/w-d-xo.html
Can you please explain what is the purpose of filling a watch with oil? I’m not being negative I’m interested in knowing the benefits or purpose of such a reason. Thanks
Not at all. Check out this video. This is about 6 months later and I show how I adjust the time with no problem th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
@@allthingsrandom8137 Second hand no longer ticks. Just stuck in place. Tries to advance, but doesn't. Oil Filled a Casio Forester and a Timex Expedition. Any suggestions?
I am wondering that since both have illumination systems (Casio has a light and Timex has Indiglo) that could be playing into the issue? Both the light and the Indiglo still work, but they're no longer keeping time.
The oil shouldn’t have any effect on the second hand really. And it also shouldn’t effect the electronics. I’ve done it to more than one watch, but one was the Swiss and another was a citizen. Maybe try it on a more robust movement? Honestly I’ve watched it work on so many watches, you maybe the outlier.
@@allthingsrandom8137 After the first failed, I was like well, maybe that was just a fluke. And then when it happened again, I just thought I was doing something incorrectly. I have assembled and repaired many watches, so I didn't think it was an issue with technique. I may try a watch without an illumination feature and see how that turns out. I'll chime in with my results later this evening. :D
New Man check out this th-cam.com/video/BSeZ3HKHoMA/w-d-xo.html. The last video is the original review of the watch with a Lume shot. Lume Doesn’t hangs with the oil.
This is by far the best video on the topic. Great job! I am now determined to give it a try - will of course start with the Casio guinea pig :-) As the oil is bound to cause some resistance, even if it is 50 cSt, I am just really considering using 10 cSt (I have seen a post somewhere where the guy used 0.65 cSt oil - but they are so pricey!) instead of 50 cSt, that should decrease the resistance and hence keep batter life almost normal. Of course I'd be happy for you to try it first ;-) On a different note, you haven't replaced the crystal, right? Is that domed like this from the factory? It really looks great.
No, everything on it was stock. I wanted to choose something that would give that awesome domed affect. So I looked for a long time at the mathey-tissot and decided just to say what the hell.
Thanks for the tutorial. So you know whether these oil-filled mods ’fly’ well? I want to do one for my father who lives overseas but I am concerned that the oil might pop the crystal out when the air pressure falls in flight (when it’s being shipped to him)
Here is what I would say, if you choose a watch with a screw down in case back and screw down crown shouldn’t have any issues. For example Mathey-Tissot has a quartz diver that looks the exact same that offers 200 m of water resistance, with a screw down crown and case back for $108. That would be a good option, and I couldn’t see that failing in flight
liquids barely compress with air pressure, only air does. so with the watch being oil filled, the risk of popping the cystal is even lower than without (which is already almost non-existent). The real concern should be temperature. So make sure that the oil isnt too cold or warm when you fill the watch
I did a couple of these oil fills on cheapo casios I got to practice dial customization and some other mods. They look brilliant but I was worried about the battery life so I ran some probes into one of them and found the current draw was 3-4 times higher after the oil fill as the movement has to work harder to keep time. This means a three year battery will last about 10 months in 50ct oil. Also make sure the crown is fitted but in the out position as you tighten the back otherwise the hydraulic pressure that can be caused as the back closes can pop the front glass off!
Sooty S great points to know, especially the battery life
Couple of months on and the dial prints have faded quite a bit faster than I would have expected. They were cheapo transfer types rather than tampo prints (these were just trial pieces) but I would had be expected years not months before fade became noticeable. I wonder if the oil dissolves the inks?
Silicone oil is 'minimally reactive,' meaning the likelihood of stripping dyes and paints are minimal in relation to mineral oils. However, this doesn't mean that it's 100% non-reactive; as an oil, it's eventually going to strip and fade any reactive dye (ie, 99.9% of colored dials and markers in watches.)
This is why you don't see anyone doing these to expensive watches; the hydromod began as a purposeful mod done by divers in the fifties who couldn't afford a Fifty Fathoms or Rolex, and needed to quickly increase the density of a minimally waterproof cheap watch like a Timex or Caravelle in order to use once for a deep dive. Afterwards, the watch got tossed, as it was now basically useless for everyday wear.
Marvin, I agree. After the faded test dial last year I got curious...
I made up about 30 vials and put a bit of brass with a different combination of dial printing type in each, with various fluids. Transfer print, sublimation print, acrylic paint, enamel paint, different undercoats, lacquers etc. Some vials got silicone oil, some got flourinert, some just air. Left most in the sun, hid some away as controls.
Learnt a lot. Main takeaways were that silicone oil accelerated fading in sunlight but made no difference in dark. The transfer inks performed worst, then acrylic. Sublimation wasn't affected and was still looking as good as the control a year later. Enamel was fine as were quality artists acrylics. Put some lume on some of them and found super luninova changed colour a bit when it got wet but still glows fine. Glow in the dark plastic was unaffected. If you are doing this, either punch dial markers from thin sheet or buy ones with glow already in them and it'll look great.
Also flourinert caused less fading but it's horrible and escapes from pretty much any enclosure. It will certainly get out of normal crown seals over a few months and will pass through some plastics and rubbers. I suspect the vapour is nasty. Not for mods - don't go near it unless you are making a metal case specifically to contain it.
@@sootys4024 yes, it does.
Great! I just watched a video of an oil filled Pulsar quartz! No damage to 800 Bar! Now I know I can dive to nearly the bottom of the Puerto Rican trench ( 24,000 ft ) with no worries!
You know it’s funny that there are two points of view from this video(I also just did one on the vaer solar diver) and you either love it or hate it. Not sure why people hate it
Maybe just buy a U-Boat. I did, I bought the cheapest one in their range because I liked it the best. I’ve changed the battery once via the cover of the separate battery chamber. The clarity of the watch is off the scale and with the expantion bubble you get a free spirit level. I’ve never owned a watch that has recived so many comments, I love it.
After a year of doing this to a couple of watches, they all stopped running. They were quartz watches. I did it to 6 watches of different brands. Some leaked little by little, and they all stopped eventually. I absolutely love the look, but they stopped. So I stopped doing it to the new watches I bought. I did try to change batteries on them, nothing.
I get it. I never had a problem leaking for changing the battery in the Mathey. Here’s a link to show about 6 months later. I compare it to another non-oil watch. Both changing the time as well as water resistance.
I’d say try again…
th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
you put oil on quartz watches? oils are meant for automatics
In digital watches, ok. But when you put oil at the movement, the some parts needs more power to slide. Yes, the battery will shortly end and the accuracy will not be the same... Talking about dive, the watch with oil will increases the limits!
I do it to digital watches like the Casio AE-1200 and 1300. I also use 1,000 cst, which means no leaks and better water resistance.
Looks so cool! Seems like you’d want a container that you can turn the watch on its side to let the bubbles out.
When I changed the battery recently, I just filled a small container with oil and changed everything underneath to avoid bubbles in the future. It was pretty easy.
Did this yesterday with a similar mathey-tissot I already owned and came out great.
Great to hear!
I have reservations about doing this to one of my watches. My collection is small and I saved up to get what I got. Not sure I want to gamble on my abilities or whether the watch movement can handle this mod. Also, I'm not sure what the point is, I'm not a saturation diver, but to each their own. Have fun. 😂
I can only imagine what a pain in the ass it is going to be to change that battery later XD
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I just did this and yes, it so easy. I did the Casio and it looks amazing. Thanks for the tutorial. (mine's been running fine a few weeks and I used mineral oil for cutting boards.)
Having some experience using mineral oil for PCs, I would advise against it. Mineral oil will make any plastic or rubber components brittle over time and will accelerate the eventual destruction of the watch. I do not have experience with silicone oil so cannot say it's long term effects.
You can also add different colour dyes to change the colour of the oil😊
I'm a massive watch lover, and had NO IDEA this was a thing. nice video, proper interesting.
Does it works on any watch? What kind of watch we should avoid doing this? And what are the cons of filling oil inside watch?
Great content brother! Neat explanation❤ happy to find your channel!
This, plus a nice AR coated sapphire crystal for zero glare
I'm glad you checked it for accuracy, but it just seems like the increased viscosity would slow down the watch. Any long term results on this? I love the look!
Watch needed a battery change about 2 years in. I recently did the same thing to a Vaer Solar dive, check it out on the channel, so a battery change is not necessary
Don't do it. It screwed up my Casio Duro. Slowed time, Leaked, Messy, Overall effect not worth it!.
What oil did you use?
still no answer :)
Olive oil💀
Coconut oil
Grapeseed oil
It looks great. Wow, I never knew this was a thing! Subscribed.
Thanks!
looks awesome. might do it with my citizen quarz
Looks good but I’d like to see it before and after on a timegrapher.
A question. Should a mechanical watch have a screw down crown to be suitable for oil filling ?
No mechanical watches. Only quartz
@@allthingsrandom8137 Ah, that makes sense ! 😂 Thanks!
When you're adjusting the time does any oil leak from the Crown?
James Barrie I was going to ask the same question.
Yes.
@@psanto13 If it has a rubber gasket, no. If water doesn't get in, oil doesn't get out.
Here is the answer th-cam.com/video/sZkrjHINtU8/w-d-xo.html
@@rehakmate Water WILL get in when the crown is out for time adjustment. They always say always ensure the crown is secure before allowing the watch to get wet.
Use Florunite oil not silicone oil. It is runnier than silicone plus silicone oil will turn everything yellow overtime including lume.
Thanks for the tip.
What would you think about filling a quartz seiko ssc701? Also does anybody know how a seiko mechaquartz would work out with flourinert?
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It's the first I'm seeing this. What is the reason for doing this? Does it not ruin the watch in the long run??
hello
I have a U-boat rainbow watch. The watch battery ran out and the oil decreased during the replacement process.
While looking around, I came across your video.
Ask if you can fill the U-boat rainbow watch with oil in the same way. Please reply.
Yes, if the Watch itself was first filled with oil, use the same oil that I recommend.
If you like the look, I’ve also done this on a vaer solar so that I never have to replace the battery
The U-Boat purposely had a bubble in it so make sure you don’t overly fill it
@@allthingsrandom8137 Thank you.
I think your advice will be very helpful.
I hope you have a nice day. ^^
It would be interesting to see how deep the watch could go in a pressure test now it's oil-filled.
In theory, there is now no limit to how deep it can go as the oil doesn't compress like air does.
Behind the Press tested one. It surpass Vostok Amphibia, but the back case bent inwards and some oil leak out.
It was first designed for deep diving
The quartz crystal is in an aluminum can. That can will be crushed at depth.
I have seen test video of watches under water deeper then 940m for over 2 weeks!
Dumb question: What is the function of the 24 hour pepsi ring with no 24 hour hand?
You can technically time an additional time zone without a gmt function. The standard hour hand acts as the first time zone, the 24 hour bezel can then be adjusted to should an additional time zone either ahead or behind.
What about when you have to adjust the date or set the time?
I do this very thing a year later after having the watch. Watch the video you’ll see me do complete functionality setting the time and it has never leaked once.
th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7epJ1zv9Gl3i0Qr_
Any update to how this affected your watch long term? :)
I have changed the battery. Nothing other than maybe a shorter battery life. I have a Vaer dive watch in route, solar quartz, which I am reviewing then re-doing the oil filling video. It’s older and needs updating. But the solar is to make sure the battery never has to be changed.
Would leak out when you pull out the crown to set the time?
No, there is an internal gasket. What the video below, I go through how it doesn’t leak in real time
th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Rv7sryjJ7wMmQr3G
Seems like a bad idea. What's it like when temperature falls below room temperature?
It’s not olive oil…. Nothing. You could argue maybe -20 degrees. Anything above 30 degrees f, is fine
You did a great job
Thanks! I also have another more recent video with a Vaer solar diver
I'm confused. Is it a screw down crown? If not, oil doesn't come out?
It is not a screw down but offers 50 meters for water resistance. Here is a link where I show all the functions showing it does not leak
th-cam.com/video/1d5sj9B4e20/w-d-xo.html
Going to attempt my first one of these on my Casio MRW200H next week! Hopefully it turns out as well as yours!
Did you try it?
@@gmansplit Did he try it?
Can you let me know if you use the crown Will oil leak out 4:28
@@allonsypyreneesit depends on your watch and how thin is the oil you used but just to be sure adjust the time with the crown pointing upwards 😂
@@Strideo1 did he did told you that did he did it or not?
Vacume chamber ? Maybe get all bubbles out.
Just simply submerging it seemed to work. I got no bubbles
I've got a MT rolly GMT, I would be terrified to fill it with oil. But It does look great though, especially with that crystal. I think on the down side, youre going to have a messy battery change
To be far, as easy as the process was, if only once every two or three years? No biggie. I only wish I used the dive watch Instead of the one here
Please do not ever do this on a mechanical movement like a rolex PLEASE
@@melody3741 apart from the fact this in time will possibly destroy the quartz movement and the seals in this watch. This is not a technique for any mechanical watch, would love to see the hair spring on the balance operate, rotor and gear train operate if anyone did 😂🤣
@@a0r0a7 I have doubts a mechanical watch would even run at all once submerged in that oil.
Why do suppose this would ruin the gaskets though? Many rubber gaskets actually get improved longevity when regularly exposed to light oils.
@@Strideo1 Of course a mechanical watch would not run. A sticky hairspring because of oil on a balance will make a mechanical watch run super fast or not at all. As for the gaskets, depends on the oil used.
Sure, now try to set the hour pushing out the crown
I did in this video, there’s no leaking, no issues. I also show the watch underwater, because the oil also makes it more water resistant.
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Try filling up a Rolex with vegetable oil I'm sure it'll work a treat!
Turns out nice but i don't think I'm gonna do this to my precious watches....
Which is why I chose a $100 watch…
Why does the oil not interfere with the battery/electrical system of the watch?
Because the oil is a non-conductive oil. You can either use a ferrite oil or a silicone oil. All of which does not conduct electricity.
It would be interesting to do it on a solar watch and see if the solar cells still recharge the battery. Also if the watch includes a small LCD display, can that LCD still be read?
Solar works fine. I did it with my buddies citizen. LCD screen is unaffected so it’s read fine
It improves LCD displays.
Sooooo....what happens when you unscrew the crown to change the date?
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Nothing,
Umm I gotta ask. Arent you going to have to redo this every time you change the battery? That kinda sucks.
Check one of the most recent videos I did, oil filling a vaer solar. So you don’t have too
is there an alternative oil that can be used? microlubrol or even fluorinert fc-40 is hella expensive to buy and also difficult to find
Itself came out itself good itself itself.
The 24 hour bezel is a mistake sent by DIY and has no function without a 24 hour hand. Should have sent you a 12 hour or minute bezel.
That’s not necessarily true. An additional 24 hour hand, like a gmt Ads a third time zone, not a second. So using the 24 hour bezel, you can adjust a second time zone using the standard hour hand.
I am seriously considering doing this to my CWC royal navy diver. Have you noticed any drawbacks to doing this yet?
Nothing so far, I really love though the way the Dial image pushes out against the curved crystal. I am still considering getting a 200 m diver and then doing the same thing
Apparently using silicone oil turns the lime yellow, however others use a another oil which doesn't do that and more runnier but is like 40 dollars per bottle
I can’t see a reason to do this. Does the oil thicken if it gets cold.
So, the reasoning on doing this it’s only for the looks? Any other improvements? Thank you!
Basically just looks, but it does increase the water resistance rating quite a bit. Water intrusion is basically impossible because it’s filled with oil which is far more dense
@@allthingsrandom8137 understood. Not for me though. Appreciate you sharing.
@@allthingsrandom8137 £50 buys me a Casio Duro waterproof to 200 metres. Few divers go much beyond 30 metres.
This can only be done to waterproof watches, correct?
Define water proof. Every watch has a level of waterproof resistance. My recommendation is 50 m and you’ll be fine.
Even if you choose a watch that is a timex for example with only 30 m of water resistance, it would still work
Can you convert a automatic to Quartz movement , because I have a broken omega seamaster 007 clone an I want a Quartzmovement in it
Most the time, 99% of the time the case is the exact same. The only thing you have to be careful of is the movement holder, and the movement crown stem being the right length. Everything else should line Up just fine
I think a really cool vid idea would be trying to build your own custom watch (not an homage) from parts on the internet. Would be awesome
I did this but it was still sort of an homage in a way because the dial was the big pilot style.
I would only use extra virgin olive oil,in case of a salad emergency.
LOL
just wondering if this mod would improve legibility of a white dial/golden hands combo? thank you
Yeah, it’s gonna improve the legibility of any watch. I am doing this video again with a solar watch and updating it. Stay tuned. It’ll release in a couple weeks
@@allthingsrandom8137 thank you. solar with analog dial or digital display?
Does the viscosity of the oil affect longer term time keeping accuracy?
Not that I’ve noticed. An argument can be made it may take the life of the battery down a few months. But is it the oil or the battery? As for the accuracy, I haven’t noticed a real change
@@allthingsrandom8137 that’s interesting. Thank u for thr reply. Yes, I later came across the battery life comment too. Interesting. It seems quite a deal breaker if it were only 10 months after all the hassle and rinse n repeat. But good experiment and also historical use for scuba. I’ll be trying it on my Patek for tomorrow’s dive.
Can you do this to an automatic homage watch? Like one of those homage Rolex with a Miyota 8015 movement ? Any thoughts 💭? Thanks 😊
I would not. The oil will slow the balance wheel and make it non-operational. Only for quartz!
@@allthingsrandom8137 batery life will decrease a lot if filled with oil?
NO!!!
Better use 10 or 20 CTS silicone oil, battery Last Longer !
Luminescence glow shot???
Does the oil come out when u pull out the crown to change the time
It definitely does not, I will leave a link to a video where I compare it to a normal watch and I go through all the functions and you can see that there’s no leakage at all
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what will, If I want to adjus the date or time, will Oil will be leaked?
Better with solar watches so you don’t have to change batteries and fill it again
Great point
Did I miss something. You don't explain why you would do this. What is the benefit of doing this? Would this not cause a problem when you press the button - ie: a Casio?
It helps in a few ways, not only does it project the dial on the inside of the crystal, making it easier to read, underwater, and easier to read above water, but it also improves of water resistance rating of your watch
As the viscosity of the oil is heavier and more dense, it makes it so water can’t intrude into the case
And there is no leakage whenever you change the time or use a button.
@@allthingsrandom8137 Thank you for your reply Sir.
Great tutorial! THank you :) I'm thinking of doing this for my Casio F-91W
Sweet!
Lol
Hi, i have a blancpain villeret 40mm watch in stainless steel 2 years old (2020) watch and i noticed that it is stiff when i try to wind it. It has 72 hours power reserve.
Example: When i wind it, it is tight..
I have to pull out the crown then i have to push it back in, in order for it to be buttery smooth when i wind it. It keeps excellent time BUT it is just stiff/tight if i wind it without pulling out the crown and pushing it back in first.. feels like resistance..
Any idea on what could it be? I dont have warranty.
My jlc reverso is so smooth , i dont have to pull out crown and push back in for it to be smooth wind.
Do you think with silicone grease on the crown seal/gasket will make it better?
I don’t think I would do anything that I wasn’t 100% sure of.
The gasket may be dry and that’s why it’s resistance when it’s pushed all the way in. A little silicone is not gonna hurt, Just be very conservative about the amount you use
"i have a blancpain villeret 40mm watch", No, you have a fake. That's why you say later "I dont have warranty." You liars are so easy to spot.
Should be better to leave a little ar bubble to alow oir to expand when hot ?
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It's gotta be a royal pain to change out the battery now...
Honestly, it’s easier than putting in the oil initially. Because as long as you keep a watch completely submerged, when you’re disassembling to place a new battery in it, there won’t be any more bubbles
@@allthingsrandom8137 ohh ok I didn't think of that. I was thinking about all of the fluid leaking out and having to refill.
@@ckkbleev You have to top up the oil before putting the case back on. The pain is having the oil and changing the battery frequently on any watch with a second hand.
My OCD is going insane looking at that bezel
Well at least the parts will be well lubricated. LOL! I wonder if this can be done on a mechanical watch?
Please don't try this with a mechanical watch. It can be done, but only if the dial side and the movement side are completely closed off from one another, which is very often not the case.
Absolutely not
I've always liked the U-boat Capsoil with the air bubble
Yeah. I like it, but not with the bubble.. I get why, but… I’m getting a Vaer dive watch in soon. I am doing that watch as well… better video… stay tuned
when i read the name, I thought you might use an automatic watch, and I was like woah that sounds crazy, but its a quartz :|
Yeah. I already know what would happen with an auto, which is a mess. And I’m not a quartz lover, but man that dial looks cool as hell
@@allthingsrandom8137 well I was just wondering maybe you some how got a auto to work with oil and that would be cool
Williamchan87 trust me, I so wanted to do the same thing. We’re in the same boat
auto can't be hydro modded, since it has a tons of moving parts, and especially the oil will give the balance wheel a lot of friction
@@Williamchan87 I think by now the only ones who managed to do this are the guys at Ressence, but at 20k$ minimum they're not exactly cheap... Plus the movement is well separated by the oil filled part and (if I remember right) the motion is transferred from the movement to the oil filled part with no contacts (magnetically)
I found a watch in the dirt it's a psycho very old and I put a battery in it after I cleaned it up now it doesn't it doesn't take should I put oil in it or I don't know what to do
Is that a sapphire crystal?
Domed mineral
@@allthingsrandom8137 would this mod work with sapphire?
@@Pehr81 here is an oil filled Vaer with a flat sapphire that I did a few weeks ago
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That looks amazing!! Thanks for the video, made a subscriber outta me.
1962hellen thanks!!
Would this work on automatic watches?
Negative
You should do it with a Rolex.
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can I apply oil in my swatch watch? and make the sound quiter?
What's the point you can even pull the crown to adjust the watch ..
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All then way. It’s an internal gasket, so there’s no issue. Here’s a video where I actually just the time six months after it’s been filled
Thank you that's was what I'm wondering about 👍🏼
Aesome video, thanks! Does the oil come out when you pull out the crown to adjust the time or date? Is it best to only attempt this on screw down crown watches?
I’m this video I adjust it and answer that question! Which is no
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A before and after would have been nice to show the difference.
Before and after is all in the video
This would be perfect in a solar powered quartz so you never need to worry about a battery change.
I agree. It is a project for this summer
@@allthingsrandom8137 The only other potential issue is changing the time. I’m guessing it’ll leak oil when you pull the crown out. Maybe it would work with an atomic radio or Bluetooth one, although that might get expensive if it fails!
FazerWiz look at the Strapsco vid I did about 2 months ago. I show how it doesn’t leak at all
@@allthingsrandom8137 I did it, it worked really well. I'm lucky to have a vacuum chamber (used in cooking) and so didn't even need to disassemble the watch. I just placed the watch in an oil bath (I used 20 cSt), put the whole thing in a vacuum chamber and all the air boiled out. Here is a before and after, no batteries to change! :) th-cam.com/video/DTlQGnp6Qp4/w-d-xo.html
Sadly you will at some point need the capacitor changed in any solar or kinetic watch. Capacitors don't last forever either. So changing the capacitor will be a messy business just like a battery change.
TIP: After oil filling place sealed wash the watch in isopropyl alcohol, it will remove all traces of oil externally.
It can remove some types of paint and ink though so be careful.
Does oil spill out when you unscrew the crown?
Kevin Kuntz in this video I actually show when you unscrew and adjust the time nothing happens. It’s a little more than halfway through
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u- boat make a watch with oil inside like this :)
jesper andersen except this one is a hundred bucks..
Did it ruin the lume? What about battery connection did you lose power later?
Nope lume is fine so far. It’s been over a year and everything works as it did
can i use only pure sillicone oil viscosity 1000 cst?
Can you please explain what is the purpose of filling a watch with oil? I’m not being negative I’m interested in knowing the benefits or purpose of such a reason. Thanks
It allows for better dial visibility at different angles and also underwater.
@@weasel9062 thanks for letting me know , I’ve not seen this before
I think Sinn can have my money if I want an oil filled watch (and I do).
Can we add color to the silicon oil In order to make the watch more colorful ? Thank u
Tobi Nguyen you can, but understand is may not be as clear
Wouldn't oil leak out when you pull out the crown to adjust the time?
Not at all. Check out this video. This is about 6 months later and I show how I adjust the time with no problem
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So, I did this last night to two watches and both failed. I used the exact oil you're using... any ideas why?
Failed in what ways?
@@allthingsrandom8137 Second hand no longer ticks. Just stuck in place. Tries to advance, but doesn't. Oil Filled a Casio Forester and a Timex Expedition. Any suggestions?
I am wondering that since both have illumination systems (Casio has a light and Timex has Indiglo) that could be playing into the issue? Both the light and the Indiglo still work, but they're no longer keeping time.
The oil shouldn’t have any effect on the second hand really. And it also shouldn’t effect the electronics. I’ve done it to more than one watch, but one was the Swiss and another was a citizen. Maybe try it on a more robust movement? Honestly I’ve watched it work on so many watches, you maybe the outlier.
@@allthingsrandom8137 After the first failed, I was like well, maybe that was just a fluke. And then when it happened again, I just thought I was doing something incorrectly. I have assembled and repaired many watches, so I didn't think it was an issue with technique. I may try a watch without an illumination feature and see how that turns out. I'll chime in with my results later this evening. :D
So how did this hold up? Is it still in good working condition? When you pull out the crown no oil leakage?
No leaks and is still running good. I know I’ll have to changed the battery eventually, but it’s been going with no issues for over a year
@@allthingsrandom8137 thank you for your kind response.
Hello from Rio de Janeiro!
Nice video!
What about the lume?
New Man check out this th-cam.com/video/BSeZ3HKHoMA/w-d-xo.html. The last video is the original review of the watch with a Lume shot. Lume Doesn’t hangs with the oil.
This is by far the best video on the topic. Great job! I am now determined to give it a try - will of course start with the Casio guinea pig :-) As the oil is bound to cause some resistance, even if it is 50 cSt, I am just really considering using 10 cSt (I have seen a post somewhere where the guy used 0.65 cSt oil - but they are so pricey!) instead of 50 cSt, that should decrease the resistance and hence keep batter life almost normal. Of course I'd be happy for you to try it first ;-)
On a different note, you haven't replaced the crystal, right? Is that domed like this from the factory? It really looks great.
No, everything on it was stock. I wanted to choose something that would give that awesome domed affect. So I looked for a long time at the mathey-tissot and decided just to say what the hell.
no want for free, too exposed and scratches too easily
The oil does not short out the battery or other electrical parts?
Nope, it’s non-conductive oil, perfectly ok for electrics
@@allthingsrandom8137 Thats amazing. Is all silicone oil non conductive ? (just wondering)
MetamorphicWonders silicone oil is non-conducive
Yeah. Great. Until you need to change a battery or get it serviced if it’s a mechanical
I have a vintage Omega Seamaster I was planning on trying this on. Wish me luck!
Good luck! I am redoing this video in 3 weeks with a Vaer solar diver. So I’ll never have to replace a battery…
Awesome! Thank you!!
Thanks for the tutorial. So you know whether these oil-filled mods ’fly’ well? I want to do one for my father who lives overseas but I am concerned that the oil might pop the crystal out when the air pressure falls in flight (when it’s being shipped to him)
Here is what I would say, if you choose a watch with a screw down in case back and screw down crown shouldn’t have any issues.
For example Mathey-Tissot has a quartz diver that looks the exact same that offers 200 m of water resistance, with a screw down crown and case back for $108. That would be a good option, and I couldn’t see that failing in flight
liquids barely compress with air pressure, only air does. so with the watch being oil filled, the risk of popping the cystal is even lower than without (which is already almost non-existent). The real concern should be temperature. So make sure that the oil isnt too cold or warm when you fill the watch
@@aole89 completly correct!
Can it be done to a seiko kinetic?