ASK This Old House | Preventing Plumbing Disasters (S19 E2) FULL EPISODE
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- In this episode, Richard and Ross Trethewey explain why, when, where, and how to prevent major plumbing failures.
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Richard explains how, where, and why plumbing systems fail.
Richard gives a deep dive on when and how plumbing pipes and connections can be repaired or replaced.
Ross explains and demonstrates how to prevent plumbing failures with new technology.
Preventing Water Damage
Kevin O’Connor and damage prevention specialist Michael Milligan toured a home to identify ways to prevent plumbing leaks and other flood damage.
How a Frozen Pipe Bursts
Richard demonstrated that pipes, when frozen, expand in volume, which exponentially increases the water pressure and forces the pipe to burst. In these circumstances, shut the water off at the main and immediately call a plumber.
To prevent the pipes from freezing in the first place, Richard recommended keeping cabinet doors open and insulating the pipes with pipe insulation. This can be found at home centers.
How to Replace Polybutylene Piping with PEX
Richard travels to Richmond, Virginia to help a homeowner replace her polybutylene piping with conventional PEX.
Where to find it?
Polybutylene pipes are no longer to code and need to be replaced by a licensed professional. Richard was assisted by Capital Mechanical. The tools and materials required to replace the pipes, including the PEX lines, fittings, and the expansion tool, can all be found at home centers and plumbing supply houses. The PEX piping for this project was supplied by Uponor.
Future House | Smart Automatic Water Shutoff Valves
Ross travels to Los Angeles to learn about innovations being made to automatic water shutoff valves.
Where to find it?
While automatic water shutoff valves have been around for quite some time, there are a number of different companies that are now modifying the units to make them smart devices.
In this segment, Ross learned about the functions of a Flo by Moen automatic water shutoff valve. During the discussion afterwards, Ross and Richard also talked about the Phyn automatic water shutoff valve, which is a similar device in the smart automatic water shutoff valve space.
Testing Smart Automatic Water Shutoff Valves
Richard Trethewey tests two different styles of smart automatic water shutoff valves.
Where to find it?
Richard explained that most modern automatic water shutoff valves fall under two categories of design: sensor-activated and valve body activated.
The sensor-activated valves are usually more economical and have a faster response time, since their primary function is to detect leaks and other plumbing failures. The sensor-activated valve Richard demonstrated was a Floodmaster App-Based Wireless Plumbing Leak Detection & Automatic Water Shut-Off System, which is manufactured by Reliance Detection Technologies. The kit comes with two sensors and additional ones can be purchased and paired.
The valve body activated valves have more features to them, including usage reports and running health tests to try and catch plumbing failures ahead of time. The all-in-one smart valve Richard demonstrated was the Phyn Plus Smart Water Assistant + Shutoff, which is manufactured by Phyn.
Expert assistance with this segment was provided by the Walter F. Morris Company.
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Products and Services from this Episode
Technical guidance:
State Farm Insurance
Automatic shutoffs:
IntelliFlow
Flo by Moen
Phyn
Floodmaster App-Based Wireless Plumbing Leak Detection & Automatic Water Shut-Off System
Phyn Plus Smart Water Assistant + Shutoff
Expert assistance:
Capital Mechanical
Walter F. Morris Company
PEX piping:
Uponor
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ASK This Old House | Preventing Plumbing Disasters (S19 E2) FULL EPISODE
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my hot water heater blew up this morning. Me and my father replaced it today. Shows like this old house have been stoking my interest in home improvement and repair for a long time. now that im 35 and have been watching for 20+ years, all the lessons ive learned are being put to work
Blew up? 😳
Why would you need to heat hot water
@@kalijasinaha, ikr, water heaters don’t blow up except for Myth Busters.
@@woohunter1The rumor is that some people see the T & P valve dripping and replace it with a plug (or nipple and cap).
@@DouglasGross6022 yes that’s one of the things that has to happen. Even if you plugged your temp and pressure relief valve, it would probably be ok, (I strongly advise not to do this!) first, your heating element or gas valve would have to be malfunctioning, 2 most residences don’t have a backflow device by the water meter, therefor letting ‘excess’ pressure go past the meter and into public water supply.
One thing we always do when we go away on vacation is shut the main water shutoff to the house, that way if something does spring a leak the house doesn't get completely flooded only the water that's in the pipe can leak out.
I do that too! Keeps neighbors from helping themselves to your outside hose too!
Turn off main, open highest and lowest faucets to drain pipes.
@@jamesrecknor6752Also hose bib/silcock/spigot.
@@DouglasGross6022 That's right
This old house has taught me so much and gave me confidence to tackle projects on my own
Great video. I'm surprised they didn't go into more details about shut off valves. From my experience, 95% of water leaks came from a shut off valve under the sink. We've lived in our home over 25 years, and I have replaced pretty much all the shut off valves. It's a good idea to buy extra shut off valves so when this happens, you can just fix it and not leave the house to buy one.
Install US made ball shutoff valves (not cheap quarter turn stops).
Even US made regular shutoff valves won't shut off the water.
Sink shutoff valves, and toilet shutoff valves too! This is especially with multi-turn valves, where the rubber washer that seals the valve degrades over time and does not allow the valve to completely shut off the water.
Richard really does know his plumbing
Its called master plumber
He knows how to lay the pipe
When I go into home depot and start crimping pipes, they kick me out for some reason but Richard gets away with it
I'm sure they got permission to film there, and either bought product, or brought it in to demonstrate. This is a job for the producer, or production assistant to take care of.
Really educative video! Thank you!
Frankly, most of these devices that require services like an app or website to detect are horrible. Making sure you can use a device either nearly or 100% without an internet connection is a must
Criminals I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Absolutely!
I think some still work even without an internet connection. When I installed Flo on my house, it said something about it will still work even without WiFi, but I just won’t get to use the app features or be able to shut it off remotely. But it would still shut off if it senses a potential leak.
Outstanding. Great advise and great product pex. Will use it when i build my house
Very helpful & I learned a new (actually it's the old version) of a non transitory verb - 'bursted'
WE LOVE YOU RICHARD !!!!
robg I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
A pan under a washing machine would fill up pretty quickly with a major leak. Like when a mouse shoved a nut into the supply line of my 32 year old GE. We had grown to trust it after all this time. But the thing is in the basement and it only a hassle.
Also, my best story re. water damage. Decades ago I had a job doing punch out on some crappy condos in South Carolina. Winters there are usually warm, except when they are not. A couple of really cold days a year. That, and the thin copper water lines run in parts of the building with no insulation, and hardly any of that stuff resulted in at least a couple of dozen units with frozen pipes, deep into the units. The next day warms up and all those frozen, but now broken pipes thaw.
I remember coming to work watching waterfalls down folks stairs, ceilings on floors, a billion yards of ruined carpet and everything else. We spent the next few days repairing leaks, but not fixing any damage.
Shortly after that, we were all laid off, I guess right after the people that were liable were all safely in Mexico.
But isn't the idea to have a drain in the pan that you can plumb to a main drain so it doesn't overfill?
Michael is realistic. Thank you
Thank you very much.
Great video and information. It would have been great if you have discussed more the copper Viega connections more. I think with hand tool or the pro-press tool it is very good alternate product.
Wow! That's a really "clear" and good "explanation!"
Much better than 95% of the "greedy" "clickbait" on TH-cam.
I did not know how much a simple drop could help!
Some years back, customer in an older 28 story high rise, had Miele washer and dryer installed using supplied Miele supply lines. Customer was gone, one of the supply lines broke, took 45 minutes before water was turned off. Gravity did its thing. 28 stories flooded and $10 million in total damages.
Water pressure was briefly mentioned in a few of the segments, but high water pressure from the street was never mentioned. My city water pressure is 115lbs! This is up from 105lbs from 6 years ago. After discovering 2 water claims on my house before purchasing 6 years ago, I immediately installed a pressure reducing valve (PRV) and kicked it down to 60lbs. I’m very surprised this was not covered. Appliance solenoid valves are more susceptible to failure due to high water pressure.
a great episode. Owners need to insure a home shut off valve works quickly and know where it is, in an emergency. If a leaks occurs anywhere, its faster to shut this one valve than locatr the shut off for a particular line. Many homes have gate valves, which tend to malfunction over time, and should be replaced with a ball valve. As a commenter mentioned, if you routinely shut off your home water when away, you get a solid feeling how well this works, were the valve is, and how quick it is to get to.
These guys are really helpful!
Flo by Moen is a great system, and they've later on added in point sensors to assist in the system's leak detection.
is the the brand used in the video ?
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A few years ago a rat chewed the p-trap under the kitchen sink and slowly leaked into an empty room in the basement. Went unnoticed for a while and when I went to the basement one day there was water on the floor. water damage ceiling and wall. Another time when I worked maintenance I was sent to check an apartment, where the residents had been out of town for two months. Apparently the sink back-flowed and soaked the carpet. There was mold on everything!
I use Uphonor and worsbo fittings and pipe much more simpler than the methods shown in this video. Used in Europe so it works. They should do a video on that method.
Good mooning everyone.
I had a black washer hose with a high leak for weeks, it was outside feeding my darkroom.
Good work .
any body knows the tool Richard used at 13:13 to expand the pipe, what is it call?
My tub faucet is leaking and I don’t know what size stem to replace it. Can I buy the kit with all three Will it fit.
When I leave home I turn off my well pump and all other circuits that don't need to be on in the fuse box therefore decreasing the chance of an electrical fire also.
While cleaning the drain in the shower, I dropped the inspection cap in the drain. Since then, the following day my bathroom smells horrible. I have had three plumbing companies, the last one with a camera, which he looked down the shower drain and all was clean and clear. However, he did not look in the bath tub or sink pipes which are higher than the shower drain pipe. I'm wondering if this little hard plastic top is somehow jammed somewhere between these three pipes causing the smell. All good advice welcome, thanks in advance.
a lot of the piping materials such as copper and plastic have been around a lot longer than they say in this video.
if you listen carefully, he talks about when they became popular, or commonly used. This is NOT the same as when they were first used.
Indeed. My house was built between 1905-1908 time period, but didn't have plumbing initially until likely the 20's when the kitchen was redone and a bathroom was added. Clue was the drain/waste/vent lines, they are on the outside of the house, and the bathroom is next to the kitchen, common prior to the 1920's and in working class areas of a city.
The kitchen still sports galvanized piping, don't know if original to the 20's or not, but it's been around a good while. Bathroom was redone in 2009, and it got fresh copper, sadly, the dufus that did the plumbing apparently stuck copper to galvanized, so now I have galvanic corrosion going on and in 2021, we had a major snow, then a cold snap, I had an old galvanized pipe that came in from the street split at the sill plate just before the one, lone spigot that also needed to be replaced due to age and that was when I had lost use of the shower, the bathroom sink, the toilet, and the kitchen sink/laundry but by end of day, got the shower working so for a short while, the sink and washer had no water. it's all fixed now, but the entire kitchen/bathroom really needs a total redo, due to the issue with the plumbing.
@@johnhpalmer6098 ... Ha, very common for a DIY to do repairs for now... and a few years later they sell the house. The next guy has no clue. Been there. done that.
@@rupe53 Would not doubt it, BTW, the drain/waste/vent stack was redone from cast iron to ABS a number of years before I bought the house. Clue was the junction where the ABS and cast iron met the sewer line just above the ground, the rest was black ABS, inside and out. Did have the concrete sewer line replaced in 2016 when I bought the house, on the seller's dime. 😁
@@johnhpalmer6098 ... in my area, black ABS is so 1970s. PVC was what would pass inspection circa 1990. That should tell you something about when it was done last.
From what I've seen, the valve fails far more often than a hose. The problem with the washer shut off, is if you keep turning on/off valve repeatedly, it may cause it to fail sooner. Instead, keep it on for the most part but turn it off during long periods away from home.
What brand of pex a is the one with the brass ring around the expanded pipe? I am used to Uponor
Viega
Was that Bob Villa?¿
13:06 "This is too wide a diameter"
13:14 "You crank it up, you can actually see the pipe expanding right here"
Kevin...master of the obvious.
So basically Ask This Old House has become a clip show this season?
Straight to the points without use of multiple apps.
I had a plumbing leak upstairs one time that I like to have never found. Found the ceiling wet so I go upstairs and look and I can't find a leak. I take the ceiling down go up on a ladder and start looking and I don't see a drop of water anywhere coming down. But it's clearly been leaking that ceiling is soaked. I had my wife go upstairs and start running water. Nothing, not a drop anywhere. Nothing from the shower nothing from the sink nothing from the toilet.
And then she said on the toilet and the leak started. They had used a hard line to plumb the toilet instead of a flexible line. And the toilet wasn't completely solidly mounted. That had cracked that line just a little tiny bit but it only leaked when you sat on it. And the water was literally running down the side of that pipe through the floor and into the ceiling so there wasn't even a drop to be seen up top. That was a tough one to find
Hi freind witch place is she stady the shop off outill of plumbing "thanks
How do people plan on transferring all these smart devices to the new owners when they sell the house with all these app-based devices?
If you listen carefully, young Kevin had a slight "New England" accent which he seems to have lost in more recent episodes.
when you go away for a weekend you flip the lights off, right? Why not turn off the well pump or main water valve when you go on vacation? I also turn the heat down when I leave for more than 24 hours. It's just common sense.
Does anyone with experience using PEX know if it is prone to leaking at any joint areas? I heard an argument that over time, the constant pressure and pressure changes inside PEX lines may weaken locations where there are connections of various sorts.
Thanks in advance!
Here in europe, we use it in most buildings, its bullet proof. When done corectly, it survives 40 - 50 years or even more. Its also easy to install it in brick houses, you yust foam it in the wall + plaster + paint, your done 😁
@@damjans7514 Thank you for the inside knowledge, Damjan. So if copper piping would be installed in brick buildings, what would make the process more tedious?
Also, what is the second most used material for water pipes? Copper, steel? Are any of these used in new construction at all?
Thank you!
@@nikolaiv1138 Well i'm not a plumber, but i guess copper piping is more expensive, its harder to bend - not harder, but your need more time to work with it, and you have to insulate it for hot water.
You can buy PEX already insulated, about 2,5€ for a meter, bend it with your hands, and its yust faster to install it
But copper is the most dependable and most used material for plumbing in the world so if you want to install it in your home, its the right material.
We still use copper and steel for everything else in EU, like heating pipes for radiators, heat exchange from heat pump to other systems...
@@damjans7514 Thank you, Damjan. You have confirmed my suspicions and thoughts on the matter.
why not have 1200psi valves on our water system incase the pipes freeze?
So PEX piping is the best / recommended for housing?
Copper has become very expensive.
Remember that rodents can chew through PEX!
BTW JohnM I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
PEX will be cheaper and easier, although not the best in every situation.
@@flat-earther lol
@@rupe53 ah i see thanks
Where's Richard? And his cutaways
If you are an installer/plumber... you love PEX. If you are a home owner... and you've had just one link in a PEX fitting... you HATE PEX and POLY.
Looks like 23:44 is the magic number, weird...
@7:27 full city water pressure mentioned
And don't forget about my suggestion oldtwins! I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
Haha he does love to say that.
I really thought there was birds on my windows when I was watching this 😂
Sharkbites
Does PEX have a long track record, or will it be like the plastic pipes of the 1970s that you talked about?
Time will tell. Already have different grades of PEX
@@DSGLABEL I have nephew who just texted me wanting to use Sharkbite.
@@ds61821 I have used sharbites successfully for years. I only use if the connection is visible. I wouldn't suggest using in an area that's gonna be covered.
Rodents chew through PEX
BTW ds61821 I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
PEX was originally used in floor heating over 50 years ago. This already tells me it's better suited than copper or black pipe in those areas. Ask anyone who has had to repair one of the early floor heating systems. I've done a few of those repairs myself.
I guess these clip shows are what they had to put together since they couldn't go out to anybody's home because of COVID
So I never really knew why PB was taken out of the U.S market. I just wanted to share this both because I think its interesting but also because I want to hear some plumbers explain it. Polybuetline isn't outlawed, rather some codes ban it but its not universal. The reason it failed so much was its chemical makeup was suseptable to Chlorene which degraded the material. Us there anyone who could expand on this, clear anything I got wrong etc...?
Excuse me sterlingodeaghaidh I don't know but I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
when code gets involved, it just means you can't use it for that purpose. Of course, that means the market falls off and you would have trouble buying it in that area. The new question is, what would you use it for?
@@rupe53 I don’t
As Richard explains, the Pacific NW (where I live) has it in many homes built from the 60's and 70's at minimum and it degrades. A former colleague of mine has his parent's house, which was built in 1968 and it's got this same PB piping, in the concrete slab and it's degrading and during 2019-2020, he was talking about having it replaced. Don't know if he has been able to get replaced or not.
@@johnhpalmer6098 ... they put copper in concrete years ago and most people left it alone till it failed. Some of it is still there 50-60+ years later.
Why do people always leave out grade 316 stainless schedule 40 pipe will literally last forever and is chlorine resistant. I think pex is UGLY and copper corrodes.
I agree that stainless would probably last longer, though it is susceptible to pitting and cracking due to chloride content. Do you have a cost comparison between copper and stainless? I think, but have no proof, that stainless is a lot more expensive than copper in both material and labor. I mean even 1/2" copper is $1.50 a foot at the big box stores now. The only good ways I know to connect stainless is to weld it or use flanges which are both very expensive. Threading stainless isn't usually done, though I guess it's an option for houses... It just galls and doesn't come apart. Or you could mega press it, but then the o-rings will probably fail faster than copper.
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2022: "So this is the polybutylene we took out and replaced it with PEX."
2032: "So this is the PEX we took out to replace it with Multilayer PexALPex."
2042: "So this is the multilayer Pex we took out to replace it finally with stainless steel which you should have used back in 2022."
Love this old house, have been watching it for decades; but, the background music in the last two videos is awful. Please get rid of it.
Houses and machine? I would say actually they are a headache potentially sometimes and the Art of home ownership is to not get suckered into Cricket crooked contractors you wipe you off the map
If insurance companies paid to have these Flo units installed in customers' homes, they would save $millions in claims every day!!!! Why don't they do this????
just wait... one day they will be required for new construction. Overflow pans are already required in some areas.
I like you
Troll. I’ll report you
christopherbaksh I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe.
I got it in my about tab.
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What's with all the clip show repeats?
@@Kevin-mp5of You mean laziness?