For those who may concern, Daiwa cut part of the gear box then use a plastic plate there instead of whole metal gearbox. I do not why they prefer this design, but once I know it, I sold the 23tatula immediately. Tatula 150 is more solid made.
Thanks for the info! I have not had the need to open up the gear box side but assumed it's all metal. It does feel pretty solid tho. The rotation is really smooth and quiet.
@@TTangOutdoors actually you do not have to open the gearbox, you can check the side wall of the gearbox next to the spool. You can easily see the gearbox is not a whole piece of metal. It is where you put your ring finger when you are holding it. I hate to point it out, but once I know it, I know it. The reel is good, I prefer the older version.
I looked into this reel a bit more as I have the previous 100 and it seems Daiwa's marketing for this reel is false/misleading. They claim the pinion gear has dual bearing support however at 2:55 when you inspected the parts schematic you can see that the pinion gear(45) lacks the extra protrusion/nipple past the gear teeth and only rides on a single frame bearing(32). It might mate up against the spool tension knob bearing(47) but that is what your spool shaft rides in. For a true dual supported pinion you'd have to refer to their Zillion's pinion gear, a shimano curado, or even a lew's p2 super pinion that has the extra protrusion past the teeth so that it can ride in a bearing. Now I'm not in any hurry to upgrade.
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The lighter spring on the inductor cup will probably allow the new tatula 100 to cast lighter baits into the wind better. But I think with the new 100 there's practically no reason to pay extra for the elite unless you want your spool tension knob to be metal rather than plastic. I almost think daiwa might raise the price to $200 once they realize that. I haven't been a fan of Daiwa's price hikes in the last 3-4 years so I've been going with Shimano that gets you more for your money.
Aliexpress solves all your pricing issue lol. I don't like that fact that they budget Daiwa Revros LT is now a $65 reel... so much price jump from 2020.
@TTangOutdoors welp, I picked up a jerkbait rod and ordered this reel from Ali like you mentioned. Could have ordered it from Amazon prime Japan for $5 cheaper so idk hope I don't get scammed or burned. Never order a name brand item from Ali, worried about getting a fake or factory second.
That's a sweet deal! I actually tried casting with it and I can definitely tell the upgrade from the previous version of the Tatula. That spool is free!
I haven't fished with the new 100 yet but I fished the 80 last year. In terms of the ability to cast lighter lure I think they may perform similarly. The 100 spool is actually 1 gram lighter than the 80... but the 80 spool takes less line so might end up the same weight as 100 or lighter. I wasn't about to cast the 80 far and I think 100 is probably further casting. Both reels are comfortable to hold but if you have smaller hands the 80 is definitely better to palm. You got me thinking about doing a casting comparison between the 100 and 80.
Do not buy tatula 2023 if you want a solid reel. Daiwa cut the gear box plate and use a plastic plate to cover the hole. I sold mine as soon as I got it.
Hey, I'm thinking of getting either the Tatula ct or Tatula 100. I'm mainly gonna use it for bass and pike fishing. From where I'm getting the reel from, the 100 is only about 30$(CAD) more than the ct. Do you think for 30 bucks it's worth the upgrade? I'd appreciate feedback👍
This new 100 has a better frame better gear. I get sore hand fishing the CT frame and I don't with this new 100. I guess that depends on how big your hands are. The CT will do fine for bass and pike. 150 is a even bigger frame than the CT and I think it's mainly used for throwing heavier bait like swim baits for pike. I have since put the CT back in the reel box since the new 100 does everything better.
Dc xt is better because light lures tend to backlash more but the price is way more expensive than this. If you have the money go for SLX DC XT. If not, Tatula works just fine.
Hi, I was wondering if this new Tatula have the clicking drag when you hold the spool like the higher-end Daiwa's? Not the drag star clicker but the drag in it self when big fish pulls. Anyways, great open box review! Keep it up!
Thanks for the comment! The SV has the same frame as the Elite shown in the video but with a smaller spool. I think for a 1/2oz lure or up you probably want the regular tatula or the elite cuz they use the regular Magforce brake good for distance and heavier lure. If I only have one reel to cover multiple weight and applications I would go with the SV.... very good at handling light and heavy lure. I'm gonna use the 23 Tatula 100 for frogging and swim bait.
@@TTangOutdoors Thanks for the info! My only concern about the sv is the line capacity, I'm planning to spool 40lbs braid on it. Btw does the 23 tatula backlash easily? Im new to bait casting so that's another consideration for me
@@bwFuture107 yes you're right, SV spools do have a shallower depth but it's not that bad. I was able to spool maybe 100 yards on my 103 size SV spool with 30 pound braid. Use Japanese braid they are thinner but still strong. I have not used the 23 Tatula yet, where I am in Canada it's very cold and ice fishing season. Casting review will have to wait till Spring! You're not gonna go wrong with the 23 tatula, just don't adjust the tension knob, only adjust the magnetic dial. A lot of new Daiwa users don't understand how easy it is to tune it in... The zero adjuster tension knob is carefree. Your casting motion with the rod is more important to avoid backlash, it takes some practice but Daiwa reels make it easy for beginners!
Just like the Tatula 80, what's drawn in the diagram is not actually a dual support pinion only single support. Thanks for showing the diagram but it was a letdown for me. Great reel otherwise.
When I got the 80 I saw on Daiwa Japan website they clearly excluded the dual pinion support feature from the hyperdrive design which I talked about in my 80 review video. Yes, the diagram can be inaccurate and I have yet to open up any BC reel gear box. This is important facts that Daiwa marketing can get away with unless someone opens up the reel and show to the world, yet most people just don't bother to care. I do have the 70 size as well which is supposed to have the dual support and in the hand it feels the same as I turn the 80 reel... might not be an obvious feel.
I'm probably still going to get the new 100. But yeah it's just disappointing knowing that Daiwa would market it that way. With the handle side plate being aluminum it has strength and added sensitivity so for ordinary use the dual support is really not needed but it's a feature I always want in a reel.
@@TTangOutdoors yup I agree on dc too but dc is on another level it really bomb cast every thing far against the wind too. Me personally don't own and dc but I use to own almost every steez n zillion in the late 90 and early 2000 it just not for me too bulky and too much braking.. jdm ftw
Have you used any recent zillion or Steez models with the SV boost models? They are very compact now and the 2 staged breaking is pretty worry free. I agree the older frames are bulk and not comfortable to palm. I heard the idc4 DC models like the Shimano SLX DC is so overbreaked you can't cast far at all... I honestly don't think DC is for distance at all.
@@TTangOutdoors yup they are a bit better for palming but still a bit bulky for my liking that one reason I barely touch my conquests . Well we do a lot of bank king salmon fishing where distance is almost guarantee a catch, experience fisherman who use DC out distance every one by a lot we're talking bout 20+ yards easily with similar setup besides the reel.
Which DC tho? IDC5 is much better than IDC4 for distance. I'd take a DC any day just for the ease of use and backlash free. Price can be a little be high compare to Daiwa SV.
Ayy Peterborough represent! Nice video!
Tackle Bro got some cool stuff and amazing sales. I gotta visit Peterborough one day!
For those who may concern, Daiwa cut part of the gear box then use a plastic plate there instead of whole metal gearbox. I do not why they prefer this design, but once I know it, I sold the 23tatula immediately. Tatula 150 is more solid made.
Thanks for the info! I have not had the need to open up the gear box side but assumed it's all metal. It does feel pretty solid tho. The rotation is really smooth and quiet.
@@TTangOutdoors actually you do not have to open the gearbox, you can check the side wall of the gearbox next to the spool. You can easily see the gearbox is not a whole piece of metal. It is where you put your ring finger when you are holding it. I hate to point it out, but once I know it, I know it. The reel is good, I prefer the older version.
that's very interesting... good to know the difference is at the spring!
Thanks for the comment Jimbo! I learned that watching the reel test TH-cam channel!
I looked into this reel a bit more as I have the previous 100 and it seems Daiwa's marketing for this reel is false/misleading. They claim the pinion gear has dual bearing support however at 2:55 when you inspected the parts schematic you can see that the pinion gear(45) lacks the extra protrusion/nipple past the gear teeth and only rides on a single frame bearing(32). It might mate up against the spool tension knob bearing(47) but that is what your spool shaft rides in. For a true dual supported pinion you'd have to refer to their Zillion's pinion gear, a shimano curado, or even a lew's p2 super pinion that has the extra protrusion past the teeth so that it can ride in a bearing. Now I'm not in any hurry to upgrade.
Just like the Tatula 80, it's not the full hyperdrive design. I do like palming feeling better on this new 100 over the last version.
@TTangOutdoors what about the thumb bar, is the actuation more positive?
About the same... however I do feel the thumb bar to be more rigid and confident on the tatula 80 and 70
Now I know that the Tatula 2023 isn’t so bad, I’m getting it
I've used it a few times now. Caught walleye pike and bass. I love the smoothness and solid body. Casting is very stable too!
Very good review sir,every detail is easy to understand..so for that,u deserve 1more subscriber..keep the good job,helpful video for me btw..thanks again👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped!
The lighter spring on the inductor cup will probably allow the new tatula 100 to cast lighter baits into the wind better. But I think with the new 100 there's practically no reason to pay extra for the elite unless you want your spool tension knob to be metal rather than plastic. I almost think daiwa might raise the price to $200 once they realize that. I haven't been a fan of Daiwa's price hikes in the last 3-4 years so I've been going with Shimano that gets you more for your money.
Aliexpress solves all your pricing issue lol. I don't like that fact that they budget Daiwa Revros LT is now a $65 reel... so much price jump from 2020.
@TTangOutdoors welp, I picked up a jerkbait rod and ordered this reel from Ali like you mentioned. Could have ordered it from Amazon prime Japan for $5 cheaper so idk hope I don't get scammed or burned. Never order a name brand item from Ali, worried about getting a fake or factory second.
beautiful reel
You should have waited till get this new 100 tatula haha
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Very good!
G acheter l'ensemble canne et moulinet tatula je te fais confiance mon ami
I haven't tried the Tatula rods but I felt them in my hand in store. They are very well made.
Cant wait to get mine got it for $110
Where you bought it from?
@@TTangOutdoors American Legacy. I get a military discount and I had store credit
That's a sweet deal! I actually tried casting with it and I can definitely tell the upgrade from the previous version of the Tatula. That spool is free!
Thank you.
Muchas gracias.
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Hi any thoughts on which reel is better ? Is it tatula tw80 or the tatula 100 2023
I haven't fished with the new 100 yet but I fished the 80 last year. In terms of the ability to cast lighter lure I think they may perform similarly. The 100 spool is actually 1 gram lighter than the 80... but the 80 spool takes less line so might end up the same weight as 100 or lighter. I wasn't about to cast the 80 far and I think 100 is probably further casting. Both reels are comfortable to hold but if you have smaller hands the 80 is definitely better to palm. You got me thinking about doing a casting comparison between the 100 and 80.
Do not buy tatula 2023 if you want a solid reel. Daiwa cut the gear box plate and use a plastic plate to cover the hole. I sold mine as soon as I got it.
Hey, I'm thinking of getting either the Tatula ct or Tatula 100. I'm mainly gonna use it for bass and pike fishing. From where I'm getting the reel from, the 100 is only about 30$(CAD) more than the ct. Do you think for 30 bucks it's worth the upgrade? I'd appreciate feedback👍
Or would something like a Tatula 150 do better?
This new 100 has a better frame better gear. I get sore hand fishing the CT frame and I don't with this new 100. I guess that depends on how big your hands are. The CT will do fine for bass and pike. 150 is a even bigger frame than the CT and I think it's mainly used for throwing heavier bait like swim baits for pike. I have since put the CT back in the reel box since the new 100 does everything better.
@@TTangOutdoors Thankyou🤝
@no_rules_today6131 my pleasure
hi, can you recommend lubricants for this reel size 100 spool?
I've only used one lube that's from my local tackle shop that's Ardent Reel Butter Oil. I'm sure there's lots of options out there.
Hello brother,which one is better the shimano slx dc xt or this tatula
Well I don't think there's a comparison... obviously the slx DC xt is better
Dc xt is better because light lures tend to backlash more but the price is way more expensive than this. If you have the money go for SLX DC XT. If not, Tatula works just fine.
Sometimes Japanese stores have some good prices for the dc xt
Hi, I was wondering if this new tatula got pinion double support system?
Not advertised so I don't think so...
Great video.
Thanks Ben!
@TTangOutdoors your welcome you do a really good job on your videos
Hi, I was wondering if this new Tatula have the clicking drag when you hold the spool like the higher-end Daiwa's? Not the drag star clicker but the drag in it self when big fish pulls. Anyways, great open box review! Keep it up!
Nope this new Tatula 100 doesn't have a drag clicker and I'm not surprised. The lowest end Daiwa with the clicking drag is the Salamandura SV TW 70
Hey nice review! Any thoughts on this vs the 2020 sv tw? Was thinking of which one to get for 1/2oz and up lures. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment! The SV has the same frame as the Elite shown in the video but with a smaller spool. I think for a 1/2oz lure or up you probably want the regular tatula or the elite cuz they use the regular Magforce brake good for distance and heavier lure. If I only have one reel to cover multiple weight and applications I would go with the SV.... very good at handling light and heavy lure. I'm gonna use the 23 Tatula 100 for frogging and swim bait.
@@TTangOutdoors Thanks for the info! My only concern about the sv is the line capacity, I'm planning to spool 40lbs braid on it. Btw does the 23 tatula backlash easily? Im new to bait casting so that's another consideration for me
@@bwFuture107 yes you're right, SV spools do have a shallower depth but it's not that bad. I was able to spool maybe 100 yards on my 103 size SV spool with 30 pound braid. Use Japanese braid they are thinner but still strong. I have not used the 23 Tatula yet, where I am in Canada it's very cold and ice fishing season. Casting review will have to wait till Spring! You're not gonna go wrong with the 23 tatula, just don't adjust the tension knob, only adjust the magnetic dial. A lot of new Daiwa users don't understand how easy it is to tune it in... The zero adjuster tension knob is carefree. Your casting motion with the rod is more important to avoid backlash, it takes some practice but Daiwa reels make it easy for beginners!
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Just like the Tatula 80, what's drawn in the diagram is not actually a dual support pinion only single support. Thanks for showing the diagram but it was a letdown for me. Great reel otherwise.
When I got the 80 I saw on Daiwa Japan website they clearly excluded the dual pinion support feature from the hyperdrive design which I talked about in my 80 review video. Yes, the diagram can be inaccurate and I have yet to open up any BC reel gear box. This is important facts that Daiwa marketing can get away with unless someone opens up the reel and show to the world, yet most people just don't bother to care.
I do have the 70 size as well which is supposed to have the dual support and in the hand it feels the same as I turn the 80 reel... might not be an obvious feel.
I'm probably still going to get the new 100. But yeah it's just disappointing knowing that Daiwa would market it that way. With the handle side plate being aluminum it has strength and added sensitivity so for ordinary use the dual support is really not needed but it's a feature I always want in a reel.
I agree the metal gear box definitely improved the overall stability and increased smoothness.
Hey bro tatula tw 100 or tw80😊
Tatula 100
What is the price ?
About $190 USD
Is this available in India
If yes can i have address ?
Sorry I'm not really sure...
@@TTangOutdoors ok thanks
Daiwa is for ppl don't know how to use a baitcaster, too much braking
I get what you're saying but I mean a lot of pros use Daiwa bait caster. What about shimano DC lol
@@TTangOutdoors yup I agree on dc too but dc is on another level it really bomb cast every thing far against the wind too. Me personally don't own and dc but I use to own almost every steez n zillion in the late 90 and early 2000 it just not for me too bulky and too much braking.. jdm ftw
Have you used any recent zillion or Steez models with the SV boost models? They are very compact now and the 2 staged breaking is pretty worry free. I agree the older frames are bulk and not comfortable to palm. I heard the idc4 DC models like the Shimano SLX DC is so overbreaked you can't cast far at all... I honestly don't think DC is for distance at all.
@@TTangOutdoors yup they are a bit better for palming but still a bit bulky for my liking that one reason I barely touch my conquests . Well we do a lot of bank king salmon fishing where distance is almost guarantee a catch, experience fisherman who use DC out distance every one by a lot we're talking bout 20+ yards easily with similar setup besides the reel.
Which DC tho? IDC5 is much better than IDC4 for distance. I'd take a DC any day just for the ease of use and backlash free. Price can be a little be high compare to Daiwa SV.