Testing Pirelli and Metzeler tyres on BMW R1250 GS TEs // A brilliant day in Wales! 🏴
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- So Mike and I spent a day riding the beautiful Welsh Roads on a day out with Metzeler and Pirelli, testing lots of tyres out their range.
We were hit with all weather conditions which was great for us to really put the tyres through their paces!
We did this exercise at the BMW Offroad Skills School. For more information on the BMW ORS - click here:
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Thanks for watching!
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Hi Kate,
Loved the come along type tour / testing footage. Nice to have that weaved with your personal sharing and commentary. Thanks for the experience breakdown. 👍🏍🇨🇦
I shall now and forevermore refer to a church as a “cemetery castle.” Too perfect 😇
Such a beautiful ride.
I saw a gs plastered in mud In Knighton, Wales. I nearly fell over!
😉
Had the Metzler Tourance on my new Tiger GT pro - hated them (felt wooden). Changed them for Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2’s - wow what a difference ! Corners sooo much better and much more feel - love them !
I agree. I have tried a few tyre brands over the years, but love the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2. Provides the best all-round performance.
I've had Angel gt2 on my vfr800 and they were really grippy for the first 1/4 of life (2000miles) then crap after that and really bad in the rain. Keep up the good work Kate.
Cemetery Castle 😂😂 just brilliant 😜
Tyre review was pretty good also 👍
Great comparison of all the tyres. I have just purchased the Tourance Next for the GSA, taking off the old Anakee Adventure. More reviews with Mike, he is good
Tyres are a very personal thing. Hours of endless discussion there. 👍
Good video Kate. Great to see you in my neck of the woods as I live about 3 miles from the Off Road Center also the roads you were riding on I used to ride regular before I packed up Motorbiking about 7 months ago.
HI Kate, some great rides on these beautiful and scenic roads, under some adverse weather conditions, and your Go Pro performed beautifully, with just the occasional blurring. I thought your comments on the tyre performances was very interesting and informative with such a variety to consider, and no extensive testing.💗💑💗
Black desert off roading is what I meant!Got to try it!Good luck in your new adventure!😁👍
Hi Kate,
that looked like a great day out.I enjoyed watching that.
Thanks Trevor!! It was a wonderful day filled with great road after great road! 👍
🤓🏍😎nice roads 😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 thanks for sharing
I have the roadtec 01 se tyres well impressed with them.
i’ve the Karoo street on my AT adventure sport from new done 2000 i think they are good gives you confidence to ride hard through the corners, not had any bad moments with them, do ride in lanes a lot down here in cornwall 😉, Kate great blog keep them coming
I've run Roadtec 01's on my K1300S and like 'em just fine.
Nice job UK! 👍🏼
Love you kate ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤from India 🇮🇳
Like the test ride Kate. Anyone forget to swap keys?
Take care and have a wonderful weekend too.
A great variety of selection Kate,don't think I could get used to such narrows roads at the speed of knowing traffic is two-way...not what we Canadians ride on the west coast.Headeaneau K60's were my go to for 70,000km on my last GSA but have switched to Continental TKC70/TKC70 ROCKS on my 2021 Rallye GSA...a dedicated 40/60 tire with awesome rain handling characteristics.Back roads as in fire service roads in the mountains are my idea of what a GSA is all about...but that's just me.
Thanks for sharing Steve, I appreciate your comment :)
Going to the pirelli STR's on you recommendation. Think this was great. Can't wait for the off road bit. I'm going to have to get over to Wales soon. I'm only in Bristol after all.
I just noticed, you have the Reebok in your intro. Enjoyed this one.
Nice 2 cu back on, must b busy there, and back on the Beemers! :-) I have an older K12RS and like the Marathons by Metzeler, took a spike in the rear m so put on a road tech Z8 spec M, decent tire and well priced, I hear the angel GT's do well, but stick with Metzeler for the time being. Great vid, and beautiful country, as you say "Go-(r)geous!" Ride safe ride often! Cheers! DF
Great vid Kate. I run Michelin tyres on my GSA and love them but would consider a move to Pirelli or metzler
Hello, good afternoon, I like bridgestone more, I just did a race and for me, k1200s is the best thing, a greeting from Valencia 🙏 Spain
LIKE YOUR LOOK WITH GLASSES !!!!
I have had a few pairs of Karoo Streets on my old 1200GS, and I think they were really good but fell short in the wet indeed. I found them to be the opposite of confidence inspiring when it’s raining heavily.
I found them to be very good in the dry and better than expected in off-road conditions.
I don’t have personal experience with any other tyre you tested in this video.
Hey Jessica! My thoughts too! What have you settled on now? 😊
Hello Kate. At the moment I am using the stock Anakee Adventure tyres that came with my new R1250GSA.
So far these are the best tyres I have had (as a complete package: very good in the dry, good enough in the wet and good enough for me off-road), but I'm also someone who's happy to try something new and I've heard good things about the Dunlop Trailmax Mission so I'd like to try those next ;-)
At the current pace, the Anakees have about 1.5 - 2 months left before they'll need to be replaced.
I wonder how many nods or waves I would get from the GS SQUAD if I rode past 🤔 😉🤣
Good review..the Pirelli Rally STR's are the tyre for me. Just fitted a new set on my T7...as you said considering how chunky they are the wet weather grip is awesome 👌. And even better in the dry 😀. A brilliant tyre that looks great on bikes with off road abilities. Ps...it always rains in Wales!! Cheers, Steve
Pirelli Scorpion2’s on my gs1250 second set. Good mileage also.
It’s spending £2-300 and finding you don’t like them is a bigger issue. Riding is confidence and your tyres are key 🔑
Hi Kate, As I am from Wales some roads for you to try is the A483 from Newton to Llandovery, superb. Also try the A44 from Aberystwyth to Brecon, I have a R GS 1250 Te, fab roads with lots of great B&B to stay on. if you go up north try the A470 from Betws y coed through Blaenau Festiniog, takes you all the way to Machynlleth, amazing road. Keep the vids coming
Thanks for the insights John!
I know Sennybridge far too well, it was ALWAYS raining, always😭
I'm playing catchup,m with ya vids.. been distracted as of late.. I think I am going to explore Wales a bit on me bike at somepoint in the summer.. Not been out on these roads, but I am thikning I would love to get out on them.. No Prefrence on Tyres for me.. Mainly motorway driving for work.. Although it would be nice to get something good for that, but also Fab for off road..
Now in regards to being Blonde.. You colour the hair, you take on the traits :-P Mucho love.. keep em coming x
Hi Kate. It's been great watching you test these tyres and seeing your experience with them. I have thought about the Metzeler Road Tech 01 but not got round to trying them yet.
My Gs came with the Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2 with I have found, like you to be good with grip wet or dry.
My next set though, I may try the new Metzeler M9rr as they are available for the big gs now.
Cheers,
🤘🎥
Those cemetery castles--- they are called a Church
🤣🤣🤣 come on, you see a roof like that on conventional churches?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cemetery Castle sounds cooler
@@hagbardceline711 way cooler 😎🤣
@@UsernameKate at least 20% cooler as rainbow Dash would say!
Metzeler roadtec 01 se on my bandit 1250
One time i had a Metzler on my K75 as a front tire and with me on it it cuped like crazy...soo.
After that i had Michelin street pilotes and they were beter for me.
I have Metzler tourance 2 on my F650, fantastic on the dry but lairy in the wet, or maybe that's just me.. 🤔
Hi Kate,
You asked about other routes in South Wales, take a look at our channel, my brother's and I recently had a great time based in llandrindod wells.
Not much in the way of production values but great routes.
Mark
FANTASTIC video Kate. Great riding, great views and I really enjoyed your opinions on each tyre you experienced on the day. I'd definitely buy a set of tyres on the strength of what you say. 🌟 🙂 also Si Pavey is a total legend. Proper off roading royalty. He's done the Dakar many times. 👌
I know those roads well,lived there all my life.(Live in Cheshire now)Some of that road was supposed to be the Welsh TT!Unfortunately,cancelled for some reason,would have been sooo good!Look into Black mountain off road experience with Craig Bounds!Ex Paris Daker,trials&Enduro champ,You won’t regret it!😁👍🏴
Welsh TT... IMAGINE!!
Wonderful voice Kate. I Think i mentioned that before 😊
One question. Are you comfortable with 1250 GS? I mean for a lady, lighter in weight etc. How was it getting used to it? Would you recommend a girl to start with 850? Which is your preferred bike today and why
? Finally What are your thoughts on RnineT?
Thx
The roadtecs are a great road tyre, really confidence inspiring, but they sure don't like gravel.
Hi Kate, not seen anything of you since your hols in Scotland, good to see you doing the tyre business, as you said, it is a personal thing, my GS has the original Anakee Adventures, done 6000, not a hard rider and they have been good for my style, chatted with TP 1 and now have a pair of Dunlop Mutant sat in the garage ready to fit, what was your view of these on your trip? Super vid and yes Wales is superb all round, ride safe. D
Nice to see you getting to try different tyres and give your conclusions.
I'm a value tyre user: I like to use them for good mileage and use them in all conditions, then get whatever good quality tyres are going for good value. I've had Pirelli Angel GT 2 before and loved them - got them in a deal where the front was free. Now I'm on Metzeler Z8 which are really good, just not the latest release so cheaper than 2021's fad tyres. They've done 5k miles so farand have been 👍👍👍, still going strong.
Probably get S22s when they launch S23s 🤣
Thank you for posting. My 2017 GS has Michelins at the moment. Although I am getting decent wear out of them the tire (tyre) noise level is very high. Of your top two or three tires, which do you think was the quietest (your riding style seems very similar to mine, i.e. very to no dirt riding)? Also, while you were riding the 66 bike, the warning light was on. Do you know what was wrong with the bike?
I appreciate your effort to make a video, but we all need more technical information and less weather forecasts or landscaping, that we can observe in the video, but we want to hear: what you feel while riding, the tires are not object to be seen, we have to hear sensation you feel. How they handle in dry/wet conditions are they fast or slow while changing direction, how they react on inputs, how does they feel in fast slow corners, are they mushy, the feedback from pavement, acceleration, braking…
That’s the whole point watching this kind of videos, for the rest we can watch NGC or WC :)
Cheers 🍻
I would have thought that the telelever suspension would have made the GS a little bit disconnected for a proper feel for what the tyres were doing?
Great video again Kate. What was the jacket that Nike was wearing on that ride?
He was wearing the Oxford Mondial textile jacket :) and thanks!
Aren’t metzler and Pirelli made in the same factory?
I am confused, those GS's have the mirrors on. I hope they take them off again before I get back there 😂😂
Probably only because it was the test on the road this time.
What metzler tyres can i get for my Triumph Tiger Rally Pro 21 front & 17 rear thanks
"It's like a cemetery castle..." Can't stop laughing - sorry Kate :-)
I'm sure you knew it was a church and cemeterey ;-)
Right... the roof totally threw me off and I'm not sure I've ever sounded more dumb 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@UsernameKate Don't change.... it's all part of why we love watching your videos. Down to earth, up for a laugh and telling us what we want to know without all that other faff... and you can certainly handle a bike ! Keep going.
The castle church is just a Norman church
Jealous of the scenery, I have a question about taking mirrors of during testing the tyres is that an UK thing? I don t get it I’m from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 Nice one Kate 👍👍
Mirrors were on but you couldn’t see them when they were stood up.
WHY DID I COME OUT IN A COLD SWEAT WHEN SENNEYBRIDGE WAS MENTIONED ( STILL GETTING FLASHBACKS TO OCTOBER 1984 , ARMY TRAINING EXERCISE )
Omg I'm sorry for the trauma!!! 😫😅
METZELER GREAT FOR BMW'S
I’ve always been curious if you can fit Metzeler M9RR’s to a 1250 fitted with wire wheels. I know they come in the right sizes, but was never sure if the wire wheels would be an issue. Anyone have any thoughts? 🙈
I ride in Wales on a regular basis... Oh SORRY... New South Wales in Australia I meant to say😲🙃
My favourite road in New South Wales is Summerland Way between Kyogle and Woodenbong just south of the Queensland border.
Its smooth fast and very twisty 🥰🥰
I currently have a 2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye shod with Bridgestone A41's. DO NOT FIT THESE Bridgestones or they WILL kill you!
I neither saw ABS or ASC/DTC disabled nor heard you mention doing so. If that's the case, I'd be concerned how much that would hide smaller handling characteristics of the tires. None of you appeared to be pushing the tires anywhere near their limits, either, as I'd expect that's where most of the differences would be exposed. Fresh tires on newer bikes with advanced ABS/ASC/DTC systems ridden at posted speed limits on tarmac are all going to be good enough for nearly anyone, rain or shine, IMO.
I typically have put Metzler Roadtecs on my BMWs (R80, R11RS, K11RS), with a mindset of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". :)
I get that Craig, but realistically, how many people disable all that stuff when on the road? As I mention, I'm just speaking as a normal rider. Also, when youtubing, you can't really share tyres being 'pushed' that's how you get unwanted attention.. 😉
@@UsernameKate None, but my point was disabling all that stuff would more readily expose tire handling differences and I thought that was the purpose of the ride (& video). Perhaps another way of looking at this would be to think of how many people have really expensive modern bikes with all the riding assistance doo-dads vs how many more have older or less expensive bikes without? As for pushing -- fast accelerations from stop or slow speed, emergency braking, deliberate courses over different surfaces like steel grating or tar strips, etc can all be used to test grip and tracking characteristics safely and legally.
I like your content otherwise. Bike & tire handling reviewing is just a peeve of mine I guess, as most reviews I see don't really offer much in terms of depth or detail. Modern bikes & tires are all so good nowadays that I feel far more value is provided in discrimination.
@@Pyrrho_ wow who took the jam out of your donut… 🤭 she said in the video that she’s not a professional rider or tester that it was just her opinion, so why the fudge would she turn off TC etc 🤷🏽 I’ve been riding on the roads for 32yrs and I wouldn’t turn them all off… if you’ve got something that makes it safer why turn it off… call me a fanny but after a life changing off on an industrial diesel spill 17yrs I love rider aids!!! Anyway all entitled to our own opinion just cut the girl some slack this isn’t MCN doing a full tyre test. Peace ✌🏻 my friend 😊👍🏻
@@Pyrrho_ I think the way ride was a planned event and the bikes were all borrowed this test was carried out under their controlled conditions at least every tyre got the same chance. There are plenty of other channels on TH-cam for each tyre pushing them much harder. If the aids were turned off and Kate crashed I'm not sure what the outcome would have been. those things on the GS are life savers. I'm so careful now on old bikes that don't even have ABS the tyres don't get pushed at all.
@@chrishart8548 It wasn't clear if they re-rode identical routes after each bike change or not, and even if so, the highly variable weather conditions would mean each tire couldn't get the same chance. Maybe by design (see my last point below).
I've ridden RRSes and KRSes year-round in upper-midwestern US in rain, snow, ice, wind, etc with and although always with ABS, without the other aids and I've never come close to crashing due to loss of control. I'm not saying this to brag but as a demonstration that rider aids aren't required for safe riding even in excessive conditions. They're a useful tool and a safety buffer but ultimately a crutch. It always, always depends more on the rider's skill & experience.
I understand why modern bikes have these aids as they want to make riding more approachable and safe for casuals who only ride on weekends in good weather. Aids can be life savers if the rider puts themselves in situations outside of their abilities, but anyone riding on two wheels puts their safety at increased risk every time they roll the throttle. However, I expect people that review bikes and gear to be more like me. Maybe that's unreasonable and I'm really that much of an outlier. 🤷♂️
If the testers are scared of doing anything that pushes them out of a gadget-coddled comfort zone either out of fear of hurting themselves or loaned equipment, it's not really a useful test IMO. I'd say trying different tires on far cheaper and lighter bikes, each time running identical routes under the same weather conditions, without riding aids or ABS would be preferable and ultimately produce far more valuable reviews for viewers. Otherwise it just seems like a way for manufacturers to market their products via tailored environments that don't allow for meaningful critical differentiation.
I live in S.Wales, and ride, south and mid Wales a lot.
Loads of videos on my youtube channel Grumps Rides (shameless plug).
Come over to Wales for a few days, and we can show you some awesome roads.
Grumps.
each Test resume make only sense ,till there is no "special offer at a dealer next door..."
If i have round-about 5000miles/km to change both tires i look at first at the sale/price offer because some dealers clear the storage
And in Climate Change we have temperature which switched from day to day ,also in rush hours sometimes with oil(diesel) on roads/streets 🤔
It’s a church div. cemetery castle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ listen right... that roof threw me off 😭🤣
What’s a skoo well 😂
You're a bloody savage you 🤣
@@UsernameKate only kidding love your channel. Also love all the defending of you too, it’s not you as I have a GS1250 and love it it’s a great bike. When I was originally looking it was never really explained to me “it’s a lower chassis” or ‘lower frame” which is true it is, but never how. I like the longer suspension travel especially off road or on our crappy roads. No one ever said it’s the suspension travel, almost like actually nothing that special or magical . I get it and it’s brought more people to the bike who would never have ridden one. In the end I went for the regular version and managed to get the seat height down to where I can virtually flat foot even though I have a 30” leg. 😁
It’s quite apparent that you need a bullshit alarm when listening to some people at motorcycle events
The only english language i don't understand is the English language speaks by British
Watching me won't help you 🤣🤣🤣
35 minutes of Kate’s sexy voice!!! How can it get any better???
Sexy?!?!!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wish you could visit me in South Africa. I'll take you down to the Garden Route. Google it please, most beautiful stretch of the Country
Oh wow, I've just googled it and my gosh!!! 😍
@@UsernameKate yes I'm going there every 6 weeks. It's 806km from my town so it is quite a stretch.
you don't look 30!
Hopefully not older 🤣🤣
@@UsernameKate no - younger - you must have had a small paper round!
Sit down Mike ! You’ve not got haemorrhoids ffs
That's what you think... 😅
@@UsernameKate lol