Bird Farms are nothing but huge Surface Targets that are fantastic for making movies on, and pumping Torpedoes and Missiles into. Not much else though.
@@billysmith1797 Most of us agree with that assessment - up to a point. There are some big errors (e.g., whiskey doesn’t do anything to diesel), but where it’s most accurate is depicting our personalities. The video shows us as deadly serious about everything - but again, only up to a point.
I was a staff instructor at NPTU Idaho Falls, S5G prototype in 1974. During a scheduled repair shutdown, I was the Reactor Compartment Entry Watch. Adm. Rickover came to the prototype for an inspection. He requested permission to enter the reactor compartment but I could not give him permission as he did not have a green card on file. The officer escorting started to berate me, asking me if I did not know who he was, etc. Rickover looked at the officer and told him that this young petty officer was only doing his duty. He looked at me and said, "Well done, son." Stayed in for 20 years, 2 months, and 28 days. Most respect for this man.
In 1949, Admiral Rickover became Director of the Nuclear Power Division, Bureau of Ships, and was appointed chief of the Naval Reactor Branch, Reactor.. etc. He has been known as the Father of the nuclear submarine.. Instrumental in the development of the world's first nuclear submarine the Nautilus . All I'm going to say now is, that's quite a tall tale you told...lol
When Adm Rickover passed away, I commented the fact to a friend of mine, a retired Navy Commander was immediately incensed at the mention of the Admiral's name and began to regale me with the Admiral's nature If you saw It's a wonderful life, where Jimmy Stewart goes to meet Mr Potter only to find the front legs of his chair unevenly sawn off, you have Admiral Rickover because he wanted you to be as uncomfortable as possible when you were sitting before him. Also, as an officer in the submarine service, if he didn't like you, you would immediately be transferred out of the nuclear sub service, blacklisted, and never again serve on a nuclear sub while he was in charge of it. So, I'm surprised that the officer that was escorting him didn't have that happen to him. Nevertheless, my congratulations to you for having the presence of mind to ask for his green card when he requested entry to the reactor room, he was likely testing you to see if you were doing your job.
My uncle was a sonar operator aboard the Lafayette at some point in the 70's, i thought that was the coolest thing when i was a little kid (still do!) -- and i'm still amazed by the whole concept of submarines.
That is exactly the correct response. Nobody no matter who they are should be able to bully or smooze their way past a clearance. In my industry (IT). They hire people who's job it is to get into all sorts of places and do things they're not allowed to do, or steal your info. Well can them pentesters (Penetration testers). They are sneaky bastards and will pull every trick to get where they want... I did it for a while when I was younger and I got into places you wouldn't believe. Military bases, police stations, telecoms companies (People hold doors open for you when you have a ladder in one hand and a toolbox in the other, even secure doors)
As a former British seaman, I'm so glad these guys are on our side. Brave, professional, friendly, and proud submariners God bless the US submarine service.
God bless our fierce fighting allies on the British isles. Our histories are intertwined from the 16th century onward. We are like a set of brothers. The little brother has out grown the big brother and thinks he has eclipsed him. The big brother has to remind the lil bro that they are still not to be disrespected, much as they did in 1812. But the brothers will fight to the death for each other. We will always be great allies, along with Australia, because we three brothers are the Anglo world. We will protect freedom and democracy. Much love to the UK and Australia and our other fierce allies like France and Germany.
My father served in the Navy for 26 years, most of that time as a submariner. He went to the Naval Academy, class of 1954. Served on one diesel boat, the USS Segundo, followed by the Swordfish, the FBM Sam Rayburn, the Guitaro and the Vallejo. He served as a navigator, a weapons officer, an executive officer and twice as a CO. He finished as a division commander and finally as a squadron commander. He absolutely loved the submarine service and was gone on patrol for nearly eleven years during his career. The crews are as close or closer than any flight crew or SEAL team, IMO.
My dad was class of '50 and few jets. My uncle class 52 and did submarines. After talking with him, when I joined I went subs. It was awesome, the people. Which made a big difference after standing topside watch in Scotland during the winter.
I was a submarine officer for 8 years.. and born the year this film was made. Amazing how little has changed from the submarine accommodations, to the training, to the legacy of Rickover. Thanks for sharing.
Rickover and Naval Officer/President Carter made a good team. "Stationed in Hollywood" for the War but tough-TALKER RonOld Raygun however... 1. Brought back the B-1 Bomber that Carter had canceled in time (because Cruise Missiles made it obsolete) 2.Never turned down a bribe for more dresses for Nancy and couldn't otherwise tell,the difference between worthy and unworthy spending. 3. I could go in all day about that prick, I used to like Reagan when he was first elected - TV told me to.
It would be nice if someone went back to see how many of the men in this video were still in the submarine fleet. There is another much newer video on TH-cam and the "kids" who are officers are just total nerds. They are so freaking smart. I don't think one of them was over 35 and a few were younger other then the Captain. They basically had to know how everything on the sub worked. Captain looked like he hadn't slept in a week. Have to believe now with Russia and China these subs are taking a much more "active role". Makes me wonder just how many are sitting somewhere off the various coast of Russia and China. If anyone ever has a chance to see a WW II sub, please do. It will make you really appreciate what these men did. You really have no idea just how bad the conditions were on those subs till you get into one.
Having served on USS Ohio (Gold Crew) SSBN-726, I can say that leadership is especially important on a submarine. A bad leadership team is toxic. And a good one is elevating and inspiring. I served both.
@@levisguy53ya young wipper snappers had it easy boy... I fought on a submarine in WW2, we didn't have this fancy training, in billion dollar subs. We got 4 hours of training then we sailed to Japanese waters. We either fought or we died, it was that simple son.
I’m an aviator, but I totally understand the submarine ethic. It speaks volumes of talent, and desire to be part of a specialized tribe. When you chose to become a member, you join a brotherhood that can’t be explained outside your sub. I was also part of a specialized aviation unit and it was exciting and fulfilling .I salute all those working in subs because you’re doing work most couldn’t do.
i did a full career in Submarines...then worked 8 years in the Carrier Aviation Community - the attitude and comradery are quite similar...but, you guys are still just a TARGET to us! 😜 Cheers my friend! Thank you for your service
When we volunteered for sub duty in basic training, 3 of us really didn't give it much thought. The extra pay sounded good, plus knowing we would have 18 months of in classroom training before going to sea. Next thing you know, 21 yrs later and 4 boats, 2 tenders and shore duty, retired. Best time of our lives, great teamwork, really miss the sense of mission. Took good while to adjust to civilian life where co workers only cared about getting the paycheck, do least amt work possible. This is highly accurate...but can't recreate the smells, noise, constant hum of ventilation below decks. :)
My dad did over 21 years and I did as well on boats. When I got stationed on the USS HAWKBILL SSN-666, I called my dad and asked him why didn't he tell me anything about submarine service. He told me that I had to experience it for myself and he was right. Be safe and be 😎
@@davidwelch2791 Submarine have their own odors. They become ingrained in your subconscious until you notice when they are absent. Same with sounds. Hell could be breaking loose but if it was normal you didn't hear it, if it was out of place it would wake you up from a sound sleep. Happened to me many times. "...flooding AUX3..." back to sleep. "...blowing sanitaries..." back to sleep. You identify the sound and evaluate it and carry on. 24 hours a day. The smells, we called it "Eu du Submarine..." (that special 'perfume' all subs have) that particular combination of fuel oil, hydraulic oil, ozone, cigarette smoke, (I served in the 1960's) body odors, cooking odors, shoe polish, soap and list goes on to make up what you are breathing and then when you finally surfaced after 2 month submerged, the stench of the outside atmosphere when the hatches are first opened. Once experienced you never forget!
I should have gone to the military. It sounds great, for someone like me who likes a sense of teamwork, a mission, who likes to work and solve problems. I have to hold myself back to fit in with the normal workers who don't want to do any more than they absolutely have to. But I am too old now. Shouldn't have wasted my youth.
What an awesome piece of history! My father was in the navy, did two tours in Vietnam on a river patrol boat. He also spent some time on a sub. He always told me how impressed he was with the sub, how organized everything was, the synchronicity, professionalism, and the sheer power of stealth. These are weapons of war that have the power to change the world forever. America's ability to build these weapons and operate them give us an incredible edge. Every president knows the power of our subs and prays they never have to use them. Subs are part of America's insurance policy in an unsure world.
I was a sonar technician on the USS Salt Lake City SSN-716 from 1997-2001. This documentary brings back so many memories. I could sit down at those sonar stacks and operate them like I was still in. Thank you for making this available.
GSSM tech, Q-5 208/209 tech, 1986-1995. if you've ever visited the museum in CT, they have a CDC on display... (and one was actually used in the movie "The Rock"
After 18 years under water in 688 and 637 class submarine I feel I can comment meaningfully. Best group of co workers in my life with a level of dedication found no where else! Lots of good times with moments of shear terror, not for everyone, but I would do it all again if I were a younger man. Go Navy!
@Ben Dillin Fellow Bubblehead! Not at all like a Sturgeon-Class from the inside. They were an S5W plant with an S3G core -3. My Narwhal was a one-of-a-kind. It was an S5G plant with a damn-near symmetrical engine room. The forward areas were laid-our great. A 688-vet told us that a perfect sub would be to put an LA-Class nosecone on our Engineering Spaces. Were you a Nuke? S6G, right? EM1(SS) and a Plankowner on the MTS Sam Rayburn at NPTU Charleston. Now decommissioned, as I've read... GTFO in 2/91!!!
David, MM1/SS Puig here. Here are some sub anecdotes I collected over the years... enjoy: Part 1: Kenneth Reed • I was a section adviser at NNPS in Orlando. One of my students had just failed an exam, and I took him to the Class Director (MMCM) for further counseling. The Class Director (MMCM) was dressing down the student for not completing his required study program. The CD told him, "I'll lead a horse to water, but I'll be damned if I'll suck on his ass to make him drink!" I was in tears, standing behind the student. Dave Smith • Early 60's...USS Von Steuben on patrol...family grams were limited to 15 words, and were carefully censored for cryptic or 'suggestive' messages. According to my RM buddy, one that he saw get through read: "Me, kids and parents fine. Love and miss you. Car won't start. Bring home crank." David Riegler • A long time ago I was convinced that I needed to fill out an ID-10-T form. To this day I still use it. A neighbor was recently running for County Councilman and I asked him if he had filled out his required ID-10- T form. He asked the County Clerk and the Republican Party Leader before someone had him spell it out. Priceless! Tom Mitchell • Once a coner came to maneuvering and said that he must have an ear infection, because “his Fallopian tubes were swollen”. Phil Saner • SK 3rd Laundry Queen doing the CO's laundry. Toasted them! Use Gomer Pyle voice, "When they're smok'in they're dry'in, when they're burnt they're done." CO had to 'borrow' underwear for the rest of the patrol. Butch Ford • Back on my first boat The Daniel Webster SSBN 626, I was standing Sonar Supervisor and a JO came in for his 4 hour sonar indoc before going to his CO interview. We of course explained all of the equipment how it worked what it was used for etc. One of the pieces of gear the BQR-7 had a steering wheel like device on the front panel and a red button in the center of it. He asked what the button was for, and I explained with a strait face that is was a low frequency whale horn to chase away whales. He wrote it down like what I told him was gospel. A few hours later the CO comes and finds me on the mess decks watching the movie and was laughing so hard while he was trying to chew my a$$ out. That JO wound up being my DivO the next run. He never trusted me... I wonder why? Mark Martin • On the Teddy R back in the late 70's we had a RM2 from Puerto Rico with a thick accent. When he stood Below Decks you would hear on the 1MC "There are divers in the sail and mens in the water, no radiate or rotate nothin" Gray Miller • where to even start… the cook that came aft with a box of crackers ready to 'feed the shaft seals'. Christopher Reyes • We had a guy who talked really slow . One night, about 4 AM, he was testing the bridge case before surfacing, "This is a test of the 1MC from the bridge. 5...4....2..1...Correction, 3. This completes the test." Same guy, different day. I was Ship's Duty Officer onboard USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul SSN 708. The officers had just been lambasted for topside routinely not piping the CO off correctly. I hear " Minneapolis departing." XO is already turning red. I looked at him and said "Don't worry XO, he'll pipe you as Saint Paul when you leave." Port and Starboard. Norman Brent WHAM • I believe one of our SOPs stated; "Cussing is prohibited, but, a salty comment now and then may be appropriate". Duane Kleven • One of our XOs famously explained that there is no yelling and screaming on submarines, it’s “training at a high decibel level.” Robert Leeper • the KISS principle… Keep it simple stupid. First Chief in A school, use it to this day. Michael Beezley, P.E. • The 50-50-90 Rule. If there is a 50-50 chance, you will be wrong 90% of the time. Mike Wheeler The version I know of that statement is "if a nuke is given the 50-50 chance, 90% of the time he will get it right." Steven Grim • Another gem from ol' Navy days: Why fart and waste it, when you can belch and taste it! Mark Gaskill • My XO called the PRT the "semi annual brush with death" Franklin Gillis • The one that sticks with me the most is returning from my first patrol on USS Rhode Island as the Maneuvering Watch Petty Officer of the Deck, MM1 Fred Mounce (crusty A-Ganger, and my former sea dad) popped his head out of the Missile Compartment LET and asked if I could see any FAT, UGLY, WOMEN on the pier. I replied no I hadn't. Fred sighed and said "Damn, my wife’s not here" and went back below. I was speechless and still think about it. Stephen Chickos • I still use "If you ain't got nothing to do, don't do it here..". Since all the techs are ex-Navy or retired Navy, they scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on. Mike Arsuaga • How about to old rejoinder to quit the yacking and bring the results that goes something like "I don't want to hear the labor pains. I want to see the baby." Joe Perry • The stupid shall be punished - Lou Sykes SUBLANT CMC and my personal favorite after regaining consciousness following a 450vac arm to head electric shock then EM3 (now LCDR) Mark Yates - "Man, what that like tasking copper, smelling ozone and feeling the wrath of God?" Brian Blodgett • Don't worry about the fire - the flooding will put it out!
I was stationed on the USS Hyman G. Rickover SSN-709, reported onboard very shortly after this was filmed and knew many of these guys. I served onboard three surface ships before volunteering for sub duty and servicing on three fast attack submarines. I'm very proud to have severed onboards submarines. Many exiting, very boring, funny, strange and even a few scary times and events. My favorite submarine was the USS Hammerhead (SSN-663). Thanks for posting.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmakerI was on the Rickover as crew augmentation for the Sonar Division and left just before you filmed this (just before Christmas). I later served with two of the Sonarmen at a subsequent command. Thank you for filming this.
@@maximodwh4440 I was aboard in '86 performing a STAG on her. I remember when this film came out. I like the narrative and I think it presents my experiences from back in the day... I think I would miss the Sonar Shack which fell out of favor!
I wish I would have had some time with you on the boat to discuss the transition. I also came onboard right after this movie was made and came from the surface fleet. I must admit that it was a hard transition for me. With the challenges of the job and the stress on my family, it forced the end of my Navy career. I ended up transitioning into the Air Force and finished a thirty year career. I hope it all worked out for you.
Back when documentaries actually taught you something rather than just entertain you. There aren't many military docs that I've seen in the last 10 years that were even half as good as this. Excellent job.
@@michaelmcneil4168 "They didn't get made by women back then. Coincidence?" Funny, I read that as "They didn't make by women back then. Coincidence?" That explains the crew composition of the boat :D
22 year LA Class submarine vet here. This is an amazing film! Most authentic I have seen. It gave me “flashbacks” of a sort. Thank you for your painstaking capture of detail including what the uninitiated might think are mundane. They’re not. They’re the context that gives true, unvarnished meaning.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri Being on the surface sucks. There's no keel, so think of riding in a bottle next to your rubber ducky. Once you dive things usually calm immediately, unless there's a significant storm, think hurricane, then it can still cause movement when deep.
Cavalry vet here. I watched this with amazement. I now have a better understanding and a profound respect for submariners. Different breed for sure. Tip of my Stetson to you all.
Great Documentary! My oldest brother served on SSBN726 (Ohio). I joined the army and became a Green Beret. We each thought the other one was crazy. Mad respect to all the crews of our silent service. De Oppresso Liber!
I was a surface Sonar Technician (STG) assigned to two Knox Class Frigates during the Cold War (1977-81). Finding and tracking Soviet subs was our primary mission (Anti-Submarine Warfare) while deployed. At that time, the Soviet Navy had more submarines than anyone on the planet. Our main targets were the "Boomers", or ballistic subs. The US Navy used their own Fast Attack subs to track boomers, along with ASW surface ships and various aircraft. There were also stationary sonar arrays near Greenland and in the Bering Sea. Many of the Soviet subs were noisy, and we took advantage of this. One of my ships, the USS Hewes, FF-1086, deployed a passive towed sonar array (TASS). We nicknamed it the 'tail'. We often acquired and tracked very long range targets (in the thousands of miles) when temperature, salinity and other factors were good. Our own subs also deploy TASS.
worked in ICU for 35 years after my nuc sub short career. Took 20 of those years for medicine to learn to repeat back verbatim any order to prevent errors of understanding. This film brings back vivid memories of those two month patrols.
Dear Mr. Hoffman, It is highly remarkable how far we've come in the class of Submarines we have today. Having first hand knowledge & experience of how vulnerable the men were who served on these boats during WW2 was night & day compared to today. They truly were beyond brave. There should be a memorial in Washington DC just for them.
As a Navy Nuclear Power Operator, we never went to Sub School (circa 1988 to 1994). We got vetted in a completely different (and unique) way. I volunteered at MEPS for Sub's and knew that is what I wanted to do as a US Navy Nuke. I then qualified almost everything in the forward end of The Boat (which is what you witnessed in this movie) after qualifying everything in the Engine Room. I loved (almost) every minute of the 6 years I served the USN. Great folks in a demanding career. I've never experienced that level of teamwork (before or) again. I work at a Commercial Nuclear Power Plant today thanks to the USN and its mentoring / schooling. A good number of us reminisce about our Sub-Life (past tense) and we are still in the business of picking on the Surface Sailor's every chance we get. Some things never change!
C J of all the armed forces these are the greatest heroes to my mind. You guys are the scariest deterrent there is. And the conditions are the harshest. The risk the greatest. And the thanks the most lacking. Cheers mate. Never forget.
I served on the USS Florida (B) from 1991-1994. My best stories are still things that occurred on the boat. Everyone is stellar, and it was a big drop down from the quality of the crew to a normal civilian work environment.
Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that TH-cam is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker
Other documentary directors should take note : What an excellent documentary ,no stupid music no silly camera angles and clear narration ,thank for the film 10/10
@@charliem989 ..."Das Boot"...is as close as any movie ever came to "smellovision"....liked the part where everybody had to rush to the front of the boat in a crash dive....
My nephew when asked by his mom if one aspect of his job was dangerous replied: "We fill a 400' long tube with pipes full of 1500 psi live steam,440 volt current running everywhere, torpedoes, ballistic rockets with massive warheads and a nuclear reactor. Then we SINK IT ON PURPOSE. EVERY thing we do is dangerous.."
Steam is much higher and air goes to 3000 psig. 880 volts aren't the problem, it's the amps that will kill you. Static electricity is probably 10, 000 volts. ETR2SS Williams
The overall risk depends purely on the design characteristics of the machine involved. The specific danger of structural failure of submarines is due to the ambient pressure of the water at any specific depth, that's why being in a submarine is more dangerous than being on a surface ship anything else is the same risk as that would be on the surface. The submariner incurs no more risk than any other seafarer on the surface from electrocution from high voltage or from burns from high pressure steam. A nuclear powered aircraft carrier poses exactly the same risks for the crew. Submariners aren't the only ones who face this risk
Aimless Studios amine (type of ammonia) absorbs CO2 when cold then releases it overboard when heated and we make oxygen by separating water and pump the H2 overboard
That is the way it was. I was an MS, or CS, as it is called now, for 4 years on Augusta SSN 710. Next ship after this one. I miss it every day and watching this brought back fond and froughtfull memories.
My father left the Navy in the late 1950's. He was an officer and a scientist. Dad helped build atomic reactors at Westinghouse Corp, Admiral Rickover's program! I still remember when the USS Thresher was lost on her sea trials! Dad and his co-workers were relieved when there was no problem with the reactor. Sad loss for the submarine fleet! I was only a child but I knew how terrible that loss was for the USA! ⚓⚓⚓⚓
@@mieaab Learn the hard way, as a nuke submariner we have the utmost respect, we also understand the dangers that come with it. Without failure there is no improvement.
You hear about SUBSAFE from the recounts of history, but never the wording for the intent of the program. SUBSAFE is a program for design and training that provides maximum, reasonable assurance that the crew and the ship can recover from flooding or other catastrophic events. Since that time, other events have occurred on submarines, but never with the lethality and loss of an entire submarine and crew like happened with USS Thresher and USS Scorpion. Just last year the SEAWOLF-class sub, SSN Connecticut, struck an underwater geographic feature in the South China Sea and came home afterward. The SSN San Francisco hit an uncharted, underwater mountain in the Pacific in an incident that destroyed her forward ballast tanks entirely and cost the life of a crew member, but she came home with the remainder of her crew. SSN Hartford was struck by a US Navy surface ship, nearly tearing off her sail and ripping open 2-inch thick, incredibly strong steel. The event turned the entire boat on her side, and one sailor was fatally injured when that occurred. Hartford also came home with the rest of her crew. I was at an all-hands, training seminar hearing about Hartford's accident from a man who served as an officer onboard when that occurred. I worked with another man who was on the shipyard repair crew, and he told me what he saw in the torn hull plates on Hartford. To the credit of the shipbuilder's who built SSN Hartford, not a single weld joint failed on her hull. The crew aboard subs respond bravely and professionally due to their integrity of purpose and the rigorous training they endure. I remember a retired sailor speaking to us about being stationed in Portsmouth Naval Yard right after the Thresher tragedy and telling how it really hit home because of seeing tow trucks. Over one-hundred tow trucks lined up to take away cars from the parking lot, each of which belonged to a person who expected to go home afterward that test cruise. In the same way, beyond any technical or military implication, the thing that impacted me most was that former Hartford officer showing a picture at the end of his speech from the day he arrived home from that deployment and was holding his baby girl.
This is an excellent documentary. My father was a career submariner during the Cold War. His first command was an attack boat, U.S.S. Cubera 347. Then on to command SQD 6 SUBDIV61. I was very fortunate to have spent a great deal of time on the boats. From U.S.S. Skipjack SSN 585 and the legendary Nautilas SSN 571 way back in the 1960s, in addition to several deisel-electric boats, including the Cubera. Memories I will cherish for the rest of my life.
So it's the same . . . be it, doing point, at the front . . . or, keeping those birds operational . . . to accomplish the mission. If you weren't an effective member of a team . . . people died ! ! !
Lee Olson: I know exactly how you feel Lee. I’m 64 now, I’ve been retired from the Nav for 25 years. There’s no way I could go back to subs now. Just getting up and down the ladders would not be fun.
“You never really leave the boats” So true! 23 years on SSN’s, been retire since 2005 and would go back today… Only a Bubblehead can understand. Almost made me tear.
Extremely proud to be part of building the Virginia class and soon the Columbia. Every day we remind each other about the importance of our product and those who are aboard.
I was on subs as a nuke on a fast attack and a boomer. Boomers were definitely better duty. I met Rickover 4 times - each time was very memorable. The fact that you could put 96 guys together on a sealed boat for ~95 days and still have 96 guys sane and in one piece when you pulled in was amazing and a testament to the screening involved to be a submariner. Note that the video left the back (engineering) half of the boat out of the video (classified / no-foreign). The video brings back a lot of memories. Zumewalt's book On-Watch had a chapter called the Rickover Connection which described Rickover to a T. An excellent read that I highly recommend. - Thanks so much for uploading it!
I was wondering for a second if they were actually going to let him back there before they shut the hatch. Would've been nice to see the engine room again. :)
I will never forget deploying on the USS Tarawa LHA1 on my first Westpac in 1986, while watching as we left port I watched as our submarine submerged, never to be seen again until 6 months later as our battle group returned it came to the surface, I'm so happy that I wasn't a bubblehead...
As a retired submariner, it is nice to see a realistic portrayal of what went through, the space, the closeness, the stress and the day to day grind that is a submarine patrol. I tip my cap to you David for this film, and all that assisted in the making of it. It is a shame, that way too many people simply don't understand what we went through, and maybe that is for the best!
I agree with you, I never served aboard subs, nor ever had any intention of, but I was able to tour one, when our ship was providing boats to a sub that was allowed to go to a foreign port. First and only time we ever did that. I was a hole snipe, and it is very hard to convey to people what it was like, especially when you can not visualize it.
I was stationed in Charleston doing boomer patrols as a sonarman out of Kings Bay when this was made. This is a really good film. I'm surprised at how much access they gave the filmmakers. We were still heavy into the Cold War. This really hits home. Thanks for making it available. I never saw it before.
@@michaelw.lemaster9779 yeah that's a reminder that we always did that for you that was our job the submarine service took out 3/4 of the Japanese Navy so you're welcome for that too
Love this Film! I spent 20 years on submarines. Probably the best life choice I ever made. I served under Capt. Lemkin aboard the Michigan SSBN 727 on my last tour. Quite a guy. I really liked the British guy, CDR Compton-Hall, he seemed to really understand what a submarines are all about. One thing they didn’t or couldn’t tell you is that Admiral McKee is pretty much a legend. Read “Blind Man’s Bluff” great book about submarine missions in the Cold War, If you want to know more about him and the others of that era. If you’ve got the aptitude I highly recommend the Submarine Service you’ll never find a more challenging or fulfilling life.
Served aboard SSBN 635(B) early seventies. SK2(SS) Six patrols in the North Atlantic. Some of the most dedicated and professional crews you could imagine. In addition to my 24hr on call supply duties, I stood diving planes and later sonar watches. One of a thousand memories can be triggered by a sound, smell, even a number. The narrator was right. You never really leave the boat. We volunteered twice.
I jumped out of planes for the Army,15 years and submariner's always had my respect it takes real bravery to get into a boat and sink in intentionally hat's off to you guys
I joined the Royal Navy in 1962, served on surface ships until 1972, then joined the submarine navy in Australia, as they said in the video it was like I had found my little slot in the world, this is where I belonged. I served until 1988. We had diesel boats, but the dangers and comraderie were the same.
scouring the youtubes for submarine tours ? , yep ! . maybe you should mention this series in one of your submarine videos . thanks to you , i am getting really interested in submarine design .
Thank you for this Mr. Hoffman. “Former” submariner here, electrician in the nuclear power program, got out in 1986. Served on USS Tecumseh and USS Lafayette. Hopefully I can get my wife to watch this!
I left service in 2005, i miss it every day. I will always be a submarine sailor. Its in my will to be buried at sea from a submarine on westpac. Amine still runs through these veins. Lol
@@scottbarber8515 Looking into your world . . . I aee this NOT as Lol . . . but serious business/existance . . . you inevitably will take, to your last breath . . . on this earth. I'm speaking from the view of an infantryman, with submariners . . . as relatives !
Benc65753// You Can never leave my friend, It is Inbreed in you once you chop the ice away to the Floating Platform in New London CT. in the winter time. Once they Tag your Dolphins to your chest. I still have the Pin marks on my Chest.
Only one way out CPO we our not their yet if still on the green side........ We Had a cook Tom Ramsey, Best in the Navy, Whats for Dinner, ....? Cake and Coc_ and we just ran out of Cake.......Made the mistake said it to my New Bride she said I'll take (B)......
Sub vet here. Great documentary! I got out in 1985, so this is all very familiar to me. One note on your comments about the skipper. On one boat we went from a Captain we respected and admired to one that, during our WEPS qualification, showed he was timid and indecisive. That made us feel like we had a good chance of him getting us killed in a hostile situation. The effect on attitude and morale was devastating. Compare that to another boat I was on where the skipper was smart, aggressive, tactically brilliant, and would back his crew to the hilt. We would go anywhere and do anything for that man, and it made a bond in the crew that was stronger than steel.
Thanks David for making this excellent documentary available to the TH-cam audience. These were brave souls that our Nations security seriously and I will be forever grateful for their service, unfortunately people like The Walker Family made all of these men's efforts at being stealthy irreverent as they hold sold the Crypto codes for communication to the Soviets so at any given time our Nations vital assets positions were known by our enemy. I served proudly 4yrs in USN 2yrs on Patrol Gunboat 92 USS Tacoma including Vietnam tour in '72 but never intentionally went below the sea like these brave sailors did for our National security which so many take for granted these days.
The traitorous Walker's should have been publicly and graphically executed as soon as their guilt was established. To allow them to live, sends a dangerous signal to others contemplating a similar course. I served in the U S Navy, Aviation Anti-submarine Warfare community in the 70's, with S-3 Vikings aboard the USS America and have tremendous respect for submariners. Semper Fi … Never Forget ! ^v^
Served on SSN-664 (Sea Devil) and SSN-688 (Los Angeles) fast-attack nuke boats. Great video!! On a Med cruise we (SSN-688) the newest fast-attack in the fleet was on one side of a sub-tender ship and the Nautilus (SSN-571) was on the on the other side. Crews got to see the old and the new. Later after leaving the Navy I was a project engineer on the Seawolf SSN-21 development. Got several opportunities to fix the designs from shipyard and Navy engineers who had never worked at sea. The qualification training was so engrained I can still walk my way thru starting up the engineroom after 40 years. Miss it all and the video brings back some great memories.
Outstanding doc. on subs. I lost an uncle during World War Ii while he was serving on a sub. Ever since thenI have been fascinated by them . This video is by far the best example that I've come across . I now know what life was like back then . The film " Das Boat" was very good at depicting life on a sub. during the war . Many thanks for posting
I joined the submarine service in 1962 qualified on 5 submarines including a diesel boat. I think of the life often. The COB was very wise you never leave. The men I served with were some of the finest I have ever known. I just wouldn’t let my daughter date one.
Victor, an old friend of mine served about the same time as you. He was on the post WWII Tang, also a diesel boat. He passed away about 15 years ago, but I still remember a couple of his cold war stories.
I was a qualified Reactor Operator (RPCP) on a Permit (Formerly Thresher) class fast attack submarine. My enlistment ended in 1972. This documentary brought back many memories.
I served on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 as a member of the Navigation Division. Miss those times, many of my Facebook friends were brothers I served alongside with. Every submariner, male or female, is part of a close-knit community, and I would do it all over again if given the chance. It was hard, stress levels were high, and you felt isolated. So why would anyone want this you may ask? Because, if a person can handle being on a submarine, if he or she can prove to themselves and their fellow Submariners that they deserve the coveted title of a Submariner, then no matter what, that person will always be a Submariner. A Submariner could have qualified in submarines over 50 years ago, and he is still a Submariner. This is a title only bestowed to those truly worthy of it, and very few people have earned it. Every Submariner reading this, you are my brother or sister, and I'm damn proud of you and I would gladly serve with you. I qualified in submarines in December 2003, a moment I'll remember always, and I'll always be a Submariner. ETV2(SS) Glenn Scroggins 🇺🇸
I am so proud of our guys that silently roam around our waters as well other locations protecting us and our interest. Submariners that I have known and met are very special and very strong and independent people. Thank you for your service and all that you and your families sacrifice to ensure our country is safe.
The new USS Rickover (SSN-795) is a Virginia class sub placed in service in August 2021. I wish her good luck and trust that she will equal or surpass SSN-709's fine service record. I'm guessing that 11 months later that she has completed her sea trials and may possibly be on patrol as I write this. GODSPEED brave crew, Submariners are America's finest. We all can take pride in our Silent Service, the best in the world.
I was 611 and 642 blue crews. Every submarine disaster still hits me hard and my last patrol ended September 1975! All submarine crews are family. Every one even the Russians presumably hunting for me back then. I hope the men and now women are kept safe. Smooth sailing.
Just checked this, its disputed that George Orwell said it first and Rudyard Kipling said something very similar before him. Its a good quote though regardless of who said it :-)
@@ColdWarVet607 Meh. I lived with and around the sub force for decades. Rough is a bad description. Far from rough, sub personnel are among the most polished individuals I've ever met.
Dear Mr. Hoffman, I am the Carrier Sailor who has corresponded with you about Flight Deck previously. After retiring, I worked for many years with a retired Sailor who served in the 'Silent Service'. He used to regale me with stories about hunting U.S. Navy targets - including my former carriers! Everything was a 'target' to them, and much of the time our sub-service technicians were unable to locate or identify such subs. Much respect to your meticulous attention to detail in this video.
When I was in the Marine Corp I had the utmost respect for the submariners! Even being in a branch of service that serves on the sea you still have no clue what these men go through. Like the movie said they are in a war state at all times. They are fighting the sea. Keeping the water out. Making sure you dont hit a surface ship. Playing cat and mouse if you encounter an opposing sub. Making sure you dont hit an undersea mountain, drilling rig pipe, derelict wreckage. Your alertness is required at all times. It is a level of stress and tension that is unperalelled. We had some submariners join us for a short time in 2nd AAV so they could understand what coastal assualt was. So they could develop and practice tactics to cover our ass. While we are out there launching helicopters, VTOL jets and driving out assault vehicals off the back of the ship how could they help us. How could they best sink the frigate, destroyer, or other sub gunning for us without getting in our way. Without making a mistake and taking us out. Anytime I would see the sub badge over a row of ribbons or sewn on the tops of fatigues I knew they could be depended on. That they strived to be the best at whatever task they had. As a Unit Diary Clerk i was also a Rifleman and in one of my units a recon patrolman too. With that sub badge you knew they could be a cook but also needed to be a mechanic capable of stopping a leak, a corpman capable of stoping someone's bleeding, a fireman, a counselor, a teacher and so much more. They are among those elite of the services that do not get the same recognition as SEALS, Green Berets, Air Assualt but they deserve so much more. There dedication, knowledge, sacrifices and security they provide us put them in a class of there own.
When I was on subs we hung out with marines when in Port. We didn't really get along with the surface members. Civilians didnt get it when they saw us together.
@@tombkds1 i can sort of understand that. The Marine Corp instills a certain feeling of...for lack of a better word...superiority..in you. Marine training is longer and harder than any other armed force unless you go into special ops. Being a submariner puts you in that superior class of training, discipline and self respect you only get from being in the Marine Corp, Submariner, SEAL, Green Beret, Rangers and such. Not all but a lot of the surface fleet sailors just looked at there jobs as whatever.
And I you. I was somewhat peeved for not getting a PUC, having expected it. Then I heard it was awarded to those Devil Dogs in Fallujah, and I felt terrible for expecting such an accolade for my service.
What luxuries. I served in Fire Control on two Diesel/Electric "boats" the late 1960's. No laundry, a 30 sec shower every 8 days, hot bunk, and coffee with a film of diesel. Narragansett Bay.
I was on in 80, still hot bunking when squadron officers got their sea pay for taking our bunks. One of the reason I got out. Three days a quarter was it?
This movie was filmed on my boat (Hyman G Rickover) less than a year before I arrived. I served with the majority of the folks in the movie. It was an honor to serve on such a complex machine. Coming from the surface fleet, I earned new respect for the tenacity of crew and life on the boat. The sub Navy compared to the surface Navy is very different which I wasn’t fully prepared for. The hours worked both in primary duties and training are not for the light of heart. I was never bored, but 20 plus hour days were not uncommon. Every moment of sleep you could get was all that you yearned for. There was no time for anything else. Every other moment of every day was filled with day to day work and training, training, training. Very strong coffee kept the boat purring. Still love strong black coffee to this day. You couldn’t function without it.
I served on a nuclear submarine for four years from 1977-81. The Officers from LT (O-3) Up had been personally interviewed by ADM Rickover when they applied for nuclear power school. Man did they have stories about him!
I would be interested to see how today's officers would stand up to ADM Rickover. Many a man left his office in tears, from my understanding. I was lucky enough to talk to someone who had been interviewed by Admiral Rickover.
@@Dick_Interritus: You're probably right. I met a submariner who did that and thought he'd failed. He was accepted with some words of support from Rickover.
@@KutWrite I heard Rickover convinced some young Ensign to cancel his wedding, because he wouldn't have time for a wife He then pointed at his phone and told the Ensign to call his fiancee and cancel the wedding. The Ensign, then dialed the phone, and Rickover then really let him have it....
Visited the submarine memorial in Pearl Harbour in 2014 and was shocked to learn that the USN lost 52 submarines in WW2,that equates to about 1 a month during the war.Forever on silent patrol .RIP .Lest We Forget.
Still nothing compared to the losses German Uboats took. Those are really almost shocking, especially since that was _not_ a volunteer service. It was something like 4/5ths of _all_ German Uboat crewmen didn't survive the war. Crazy.
@@justforever96 Russian submariners had no walk in the park with the vessels they were handed for their mission. WidowMaker was a real thing, radiation poisoning her own crew because of shortcuts in design and safety. Those who work at General Dynamics Electric Boat take pride in designing and supplying our warfighters with the best possible means to protect our sailors, our families, and our country.
Airdale Navy, ASW. Looking back, we did a few drills with subs but I never had an understanding of quite what they do. I personally could never see myself on a ship that sinks on purpose. Much respect to all those that are or have done this. You guys are the real MVPs!
Excellent. Well worth watching. I’ve known only a couple submariners, and this fills in many things I always had a curiosity about regarding the men on board. These are great men, and I am lucky to know them.
Even though I served in the United States military myself in another branch, I totally understand and respect any sailor who served the silent service.
Superlative documentary. Really good work. "No manoeuvre here can ever be routine". No margin for error. How did this sub captain feel about being commander of the Rickover. Considering the gigantic status of the namesake. ... What an excellent crew of sailors.
Almost 40 years on Active Duty in the United States Navy... My two Submarine tours rank amongst the most challenging and rewarding tours I have had... to include Combat ashore... So proud to serve with such dedicated, intelligent, and hard working people... Will be with me the rest of my life, my Navy Submarine Family. V/r “TRACER”
An absolutely fantastic documentary. Time in service...unlike any other part of my life. True, one never leaves it. Out 23 years now, and I still dream of it...the boats, the sea, my fellow crew members.
I was a 3rd generation USN and 2nd generation submarine veteran. Alot of people and even my family has asked what it is like serving on submarines. I give them a vague answer, but they don't understand. My dad and I have talked about our times on boats, but there are things that we don't talk about. Be safe and be 😎
Excellent video! I was in surface sonar, anti-submarine warfare. I rode on a diesel boat and a fast attack for a few days trading each to observe evasive maneuvers from surface attacks. Great training, a real eye opener! That being said, I was more than ready to get back on my destroyer. My hat's off to these brave men!
I was an AO at Whidbey NAS. I don’t think I’d be a great candidate for submarine duty, I have huge respect for those that do. It looks like this was filmed in the late 80’s on a LA class 688? Very well done documentary.
That first scene on the bridge where the OOD, Conning Officer, Diving Officer, Helmsman, etc. (Excuse me if I'm not calling them the correct thing I was a surface guy) are all communicating and giving and taking orders makes me nostalgic.
I served on the older diesel electric boats, I qualified on the USS Harder, SS568 and on the USS Odax, SS484. I was the navigator (QM3SS). I was in 1963-1966. I sure miss those days.
Wow, a very rare comment from another Queenfish sailor. I was on the commissioning crew and stood at parade rest on 12/6/66. I made RM1 and became one of 51 E-6s. Took her to HI, made an 8 month Westpac trip, we were the closest USN vessel to the Pueblo when it was captured by N. Korea, and was transferred to FLEET SUB PAC (changed to NASTIPAC) to teach refresher courses in the maintenance and repair of 2 crypto receivers. Stay safe and healthy amigo. RMCS(SS) Ret.
One of my brothers (now deceased) was a submariner for many years, served mainly on the USS Halibut, running and maintaining the reactor. Seeing this film really educated me about him and his personality. Though he was very successful in his Naval career, he was a terrible sibling. The NAVY saw something in him that we didn't. I didn't like him (you can't choose family members), but I admired him for his military service. That "shell" did bring on marital issues with 2 divorces. And yes, he was always "on guard," keeping much of his life a secret, even for the years after he retired. Thank you for posting this video...much appreciated!
"It could be that you're already killed, you just haven't found it out yet" Capt Edward L Beach referring to the highly technical nature of modern undersea warfare. Chilling.
I'm only ten minutes into the movie, and I can already tell how different this is from documentaries of today, I'm not gonna name any of those diferences since I know smart people will understand, however I do want to point out this: the video format used captures their reality in such a fidelity that is beyond pixel count, today we have such a fetiche in high resolutions and frames that something was lost in the way. Thank you for uploading this.
I'm only 5 minutes in, and the fact that every spoken line hasn't been repeated at least 3 times just confirms that this documentary is a notch above the rest.
got to work on that decommissioning project at Shippingport. PA...ostensibly, the worlds first nuclear plant...my first reaction when I saw the reactor shell was that it looked like part of a submarine...since this built at the time of Rickover and the Nautilis, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised......
I reported aboard my first Submarine in Dec 1970. It was an experience like no other. It was a job that demanded more from you personally, mentally, physically and emotionally than anything else I ever had to deal with. Builds character
G'day Mr Hoffman, As a documentary maker let me congratulate you on an excelent film. I'm ex-RAAF, however, I've been fascinated by submarines for decades. I got to go on-board one when it was docked and I decided I simply could not live aboard one, ever. Yet, I'm still in awe of them and I've seen just about every submarine documentary available. This is one of the best I've seen. I don't know how you coped with a full tour, I would have been a wreck after a few days and nights. I have nothing but the deepest respect for submariners. I've only known two well enough to call mates but, as you say, as they say in your film no one but a fellow submariner really knows them. Thank you for a first rate film, all those years ago. It's outstanding! Cheers, BH
Bill Halliwell - After multiple Special Forces combat tours, a USN Submarine Service Torpedoman gave me a tour of his old fleet boat. Even though he wouldn't answer many of my questions (I had a TS but no "need to know." That's how it works!), I fell in love with the aromas and tight quarters. After that, becoming a submariner became a dream never realized. [What a laugh it would have been to be a bubblehead with a Combat Infantry Badge (CIB), Master Parachutist Wings, foreign Parachutist Wings, and a Pathfinder Torch!] De Oppresso Liber
STS2 (SS) '81-87 Man-o-Man was this a trip in the wayback machine for me. BRAVO-ZULU to the production crew, and the men that I call Brothers. Fair winds....
Thank you for this video. I am not a submariner. I was in the Gator Navy mostly. I was however stationed in Groton and repaired and modified them. Most of the personnel I meet were great. I learned a lot and did many repairs that most could or were not allowed. The crews were always grateful for my work.
My dad served many years in submarines starting with Silversides (SS) 236 and ending on Scamp SS(N) 588. He put her in commission. He was proud of serving in submarines
Mr. Hoffman, thank you so much for this presentation and tribute to the Silent Service. Military service is a sacred thing to me. Acknowledging and remembering these patriots is something we should all take time to do. I have never met a submariner. If I did the only question I would ask him would be, "please, feel free to tell me what you can. Anything you can share with me would be deeply appreciated. Thank you for your service".
David Hoffman you lucky somebody....thank you for this excellent production! In 1967-68 the world's record free dive was held by Robert Croft, first to exceed 200' on one breath. Tom Clancy had consulted with experts at NSRDC division in Annapolis, MD, where I believe there was/is a tank around 300' deep used in research. Growing up about a mile from the gate of the complex, Bob Croft was a legend to us 10-12 yr olds :) My father was stationed 20 years at the US Naval Academy, was a member of the Fleet Reserve Club where he'd come to know Capt. Dix, the skipper of a 53' research sub "X-1". One morning while getting ready for school my father's at my bedroom door saying "Downstairs!!!! NOW!!!!" I'm wondering what the Hell'd I done NOW? In the kitchen he says "you wanna go on a submarine today????" Uh yeah..... and not just a little..... ya see........ this can't be real...... I wouldn't let him throw out our defunct hot water tank...... I'm gonna build a submarine..... yeah I'm serious!!! It won't be roomy, but cruising the Chesapeake is the mission. He drove me to the yard at NSRDC, dropped me off for a pretty long day...... out to the sub on what I recall was a PT boat..... on board Capt. Dix introduces the crew. One of the pilots is Bob Croft...... I think he wasn't aware of what a hero he was. We went across the Bay, submerged...... of course when you're 11 and a submarine enthusiast the periscope is cool as it gets :) Last I saw of the X-1 she was on display across the street from the Field House at USNA. The narrator's voice is really familiar...... you say "filming" in description...... literally film, and 16 or 35 mm?
Thanks for the memories. I qualified on the first ballistic missile submarine. USS George Washington SSBN 598. 1971-1975. I worked on several pieces of equipment which had serial numbers like: XXX, 00001, 0000. Not a very comforting feeling at 200 ft depth. We experienced flooding, fires, radio active water spills. My longest without surfacing was 72 days. I was 21 when I came onboard. The average age was about 23. ETN2 SS 1969-1978. Today I was in contact with 3 friends that were on the boat with me. Life long friendships. 50 years.
Rad-Con 67-69 AS-33 USS SIMON LAKE. was aboard the Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, T.Roosevelt, Madison, and a few I can't remember. Repair of those subs was only done, when someone recognized a problem. We were only as good as the crew reporting problems. I never once saw a work order turned down for lack of money or a laz-e-fair attitude. The only thing I could see during my time in Repair, was crew inexperience due to such a new engineering experience with Nuke Reactors. Repair were done with extreme care and diligence and the finest testing techniques available at the time. Thanks to Adm Rickover for his dedication and flat common sense that the Nuclear Navy is what it is today.
as a retired sailor and submariner i get asked all kinds of questions regarding life aboard the boats, i then point them to this documentary. thank you for posting it to youtube.
"even when he retires, he never really leave the boats" - the Truest statement in the life of a Submariner. I would go to sea today if given the opp to serve again.
Going 'full circle' displaying the CO's rack would be valued. I've seen the CO's quarters, for an aircraft carrier . . . however, being that space is at a premium, his quarters on a sub are inevitably miniature to that, above water !
Although this film was done in 1986, I have to admit that it was one of the best documentary I have seen about submarines and its crew. I am not a submariner but I do admire the bravery and intelligence that these sailers have. Even in youth I could not do this job.
I praise your work, David. One of the best no-nonsense looks at submarines I'd ever watched. Your interviews are fabulous and the script made from these interviews is to be studied for their perfect editing!
Rob. Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that TH-cam is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts. David Hoffman filmmaker
Submariner myself, Plank Owner USS SCRANTON SSN- 756 , seeing this brings back so many great memories. To this very day the friends I served with I consider them family even more than my actual blood relatives.
@kevinc4632 . I had to look up the term Plank Owner. This may be an understatement, but the pride that seems to come out in you and others mentioning it, speaks volumes👍🏽. E-7 USAR RETD.
@@vinyltapelover You are correct, as initial crew members we were the ones whom helped build her in the shipyards, sea trials, then commissioning ceremony. Then out on patrols, nothing compares than serving on a Submarine " you" actually helped to create. That boat is literally a part of all us Plank Owners for the rest of our time on earth. Thank you
I really long for geniune human connections like these guys have. I'm surprised how many pure hearts there are in a submarine, I never could have imagined. I'd like to believe this kind of love and respect is still possible among all of us. This is so well shot, so true to the facts. I would love to meet all these guys... Where are they now...
Those of us who are still alive are living our lives and doing what ordinary folks do. We have our memories, our uniform insignias, the medals, the knicknacks we gathered in a drawer and very few people know who we were or what we did. Still go to reunions and once a month lunches with other submariners and tell sea stories. We are older, grayer but still kicking.
Aircraft carriers are as spectacular as submarines. Here's a piece of my movie from the flight deck th-cam.com/video/sDG7GQqwbzY/w-d-xo.html
i always been interested in them both but never served, id give anything just to see it in person
I thought Down Periscope was the best submarine documentary?
If someone farts on an aircraft carrier it would not be noticed. But on a submarine...
Bird Farms are nothing but huge Surface Targets that are fantastic for making movies on, and pumping Torpedoes and Missiles into. Not much else though.
@@billysmith1797 Most of us agree with that assessment - up to a point. There are some big errors (e.g., whiskey doesn’t do anything to diesel), but where it’s most accurate is depicting our personalities. The video shows us as deadly serious about everything - but again, only up to a point.
I was a staff instructor at NPTU Idaho Falls, S5G prototype in 1974. During a scheduled repair shutdown, I was the Reactor Compartment Entry Watch. Adm. Rickover came to the prototype for an inspection. He requested permission to enter the reactor compartment but I could not give him permission as he did not have a green card on file. The officer escorting started to berate me, asking me if I did not know who he was, etc. Rickover looked at the officer and told him that this young petty officer was only doing his duty. He looked at me and said, "Well done, son." Stayed in for 20 years, 2 months, and 28 days. Most respect for this man.
In 1949, Admiral Rickover became Director of the Nuclear Power Division, Bureau of Ships, and was appointed chief of the Naval Reactor Branch, Reactor.. etc.
He has been known as the Father of the nuclear submarine..
Instrumental in the development of the world's first nuclear submarine the Nautilus
. All I'm going to say now is, that's quite a tall tale you told...lol
@@karaDee2363 nice
When Adm Rickover passed away, I commented the fact to a friend of mine, a retired Navy Commander was immediately incensed at the mention of the Admiral's name and began to regale me with the Admiral's nature
If you saw It's a wonderful life, where Jimmy Stewart goes to meet Mr Potter only to find the front legs of his chair unevenly sawn off, you have Admiral Rickover because he wanted you to be as uncomfortable as possible when you were sitting before him.
Also, as an officer in the submarine service, if he didn't like you, you would immediately be transferred out of the nuclear sub service, blacklisted, and never again serve on a nuclear sub while he was in charge of it. So, I'm surprised that the officer that was escorting him didn't have that happen to him.
Nevertheless, my congratulations to you for having the presence of mind to ask for his green card when he requested entry to the reactor room, he was likely testing you to see if you were doing your job.
My uncle was a sonar operator aboard the Lafayette at some point in the 70's, i thought that was the coolest thing when i was a little kid (still do!) -- and i'm still amazed by the whole concept of submarines.
That is exactly the correct response. Nobody no matter who they are should be able to bully or smooze their way past a clearance. In my industry (IT). They hire people who's job it is to get into all sorts of places and do things they're not allowed to do, or steal your info. Well can them pentesters (Penetration testers). They are sneaky bastards and will pull every trick to get where they want... I did it for a while when I was younger and I got into places you wouldn't believe. Military bases, police stations, telecoms companies (People hold doors open for you when you have a ladder in one hand and a toolbox in the other, even secure doors)
As a former British seaman, I'm so glad these guys are on our side. Brave, professional, friendly, and proud submariners God bless the US submarine service.
And God bless all who serve with the Royal Navy. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
some of the best❤
I loved the time spent at the Faslane pub. UK Submariners are so fun. Thank you guys.
God bless our fierce fighting allies on the British isles. Our histories are intertwined from the 16th century onward. We are like a set of brothers. The little brother has out grown the big brother and thinks he has eclipsed him. The big brother has to remind the lil bro that they are still not to be disrespected, much as they did in 1812. But the brothers will fight to the death for each other. We will always be great allies, along with Australia, because we three brothers are the Anglo world. We will protect freedom and democracy. Much love to the UK and Australia and our other fierce allies like France and Germany.
I love British Semen
My father served in the Navy for 26 years, most of that time as a submariner. He went to the Naval Academy, class of 1954. Served on one diesel boat, the USS Segundo, followed by the Swordfish, the FBM Sam Rayburn, the Guitaro and the Vallejo. He served as a navigator, a weapons officer, an executive officer and twice as a CO. He finished as a division commander and finally as a squadron commander. He absolutely loved the submarine service and was gone on patrol for nearly eleven years during his career. The crews are as close or closer than any flight crew or SEAL team, IMO.
My dad was class of '50 and few jets. My uncle class 52 and did submarines. After talking with him, when I joined I went subs. It was awesome, the people. Which made a big difference after standing topside watch in Scotland during the winter.
I was a submarine officer for 8 years.. and born the year this film was made. Amazing how little has changed from the submarine accommodations, to the training, to the legacy of Rickover. Thanks for sharing.
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Rickover and Naval Officer/President Carter made a good team.
"Stationed in Hollywood" for the War but tough-TALKER RonOld Raygun however... 1. Brought back the B-1 Bomber that Carter had canceled in time (because Cruise Missiles made it obsolete) 2.Never turned down a bribe for more dresses for Nancy and couldn't otherwise tell,the difference between worthy and unworthy spending. 3. I could go in all day about that prick, I used to like Reagan when he was first elected - TV told me to.
I have a feeling you and I crossed paths
It would be nice if someone went back to see how many of the men in this video were still in the submarine fleet. There is another much newer video on TH-cam and the "kids" who are officers are just total nerds. They are so freaking smart. I don't think one of them was over 35 and a few were younger other then the Captain. They basically had to know how everything on the sub worked. Captain looked like he hadn't slept in a week. Have to believe now with Russia and China these subs are taking a much more "active role". Makes me wonder just how many are sitting somewhere off the various coast of Russia and China. If anyone ever has a chance to see a WW II sub, please do. It will make you really appreciate what these men did. You really have no idea just how bad the conditions were on those subs till you get into one.
@@trvman1 pig boats are very different than nukes.
Having served on USS Ohio (Gold Crew) SSBN-726, I can say that leadership is especially important on a submarine. A bad leadership team is toxic. And a good one is elevating and inspiring. I served both.
when i reported to the 738 G it was so bad it was referred to as the Moral Suppression Team by several of the other junior sonarmen.
When I got out of the service my first job was working at EB in 1976. I saw the first hull sections of the Ohio come together.
Thank you for serving on tha namesake sub of our shitty state!
@@levisguy53ya young wipper snappers had it easy boy... I fought on a submarine in WW2, we didn't have this fancy training, in billion dollar subs. We got 4 hours of training then we sailed to Japanese waters. We either fought or we died, it was that simple son.
It would be hell on one of those things with lousy leadership .
I’m an aviator, but I totally understand the submarine ethic. It speaks volumes of talent, and desire to be part of a specialized tribe. When you chose to become a member, you join a brotherhood that can’t be explained outside your sub. I was also part of a specialized aviation unit and it was exciting and fulfilling .I salute all those working in subs because you’re doing work most couldn’t do.
i did a full career in Submarines...then worked 8 years in the Carrier Aviation Community - the attitude and comradery are quite similar...but, you guys are still just a TARGET to us! 😜 Cheers my friend! Thank you for your service
When we volunteered for sub duty in basic training, 3 of us really didn't give it much thought. The extra pay sounded good, plus knowing we would have 18 months of in classroom training before going to sea. Next thing you know, 21 yrs later and 4 boats, 2 tenders and shore duty, retired. Best time of our lives, great teamwork, really miss the sense of mission. Took good while to adjust to civilian life where co workers only cared about getting the paycheck, do least amt work possible. This is highly accurate...but can't recreate the smells, noise, constant hum of ventilation below decks. :)
My dad did over 21 years and I did as well on boats. When I got stationed on the USS HAWKBILL SSN-666, I called my dad and asked him why didn't he tell me anything about submarine service. He told me that I had to experience it for myself and he was right.
Be safe and be 😎
Thank you for your service.
@@davidwelch2791 Submarine have their own odors. They become ingrained in your subconscious until you notice when they are absent. Same with sounds. Hell could be breaking loose but if it was normal you didn't hear it, if it was out of place it would wake you up from a sound sleep. Happened to me many times. "...flooding AUX3..." back to sleep. "...blowing sanitaries..." back to sleep. You identify the sound and evaluate it and carry on. 24 hours a day. The smells, we called it "Eu du Submarine..." (that special 'perfume' all subs have) that particular combination of fuel oil, hydraulic oil, ozone, cigarette smoke, (I served in the 1960's) body odors, cooking odors, shoe polish, soap and list goes on to make up what you are breathing and then when you finally surfaced after 2 month submerged, the stench of the outside atmosphere when the hatches are first opened. Once experienced you never forget!
I should have gone to the military. It sounds great, for someone like me who likes a sense of teamwork, a mission, who likes to work and solve problems. I have to hold myself back to fit in with the normal workers who don't want to do any more than they absolutely have to. But I am too old now. Shouldn't have wasted my youth.
@@justforever96 I heard that...
What an awesome piece of history! My father was in the navy, did two tours in Vietnam on a river patrol boat. He also spent some time on a sub. He always told me how impressed he was with the sub, how organized everything was, the synchronicity, professionalism, and the sheer power of stealth. These are weapons of war that have the power to change the world forever. America's ability to build these weapons and operate them give us an incredible edge. Every president knows the power of our subs and prays they never have to use them. Subs are part of America's insurance policy in an unsure world.
I was a sonar technician on the USS Salt Lake City SSN-716 from 1997-2001. This documentary brings back so many memories. I could sit down at those sonar stacks and operate them like I was still in. Thank you for making this available.
Bro how do you feel?
I feel the same about my former job... I pine sometimes...
SSN 763 sonar here. 00-04
GSSM tech, Q-5 208/209 tech, 1986-1995. if you've ever visited the museum in CT, they have a CDC on display... (and one was actually used in the movie "The Rock"
We served together; 1999-2001. Howdy Shipmate! All the best!!
After 18 years under water in 688 and 637 class submarine I feel I can comment meaningfully. Best group of co workers in my life with a level of dedication found no where else! Lots of good times with moments of shear terror, not for everyone, but I would do it all again if I were a younger man. Go Navy!
Fellow Bubblehead. I was on the 671-class from '83-'88.
We were different...
Sempur Screw You!!! Where's my beer?!
@Ben Dillin Fellow Bubblehead!
Not at all like a Sturgeon-Class from the inside. They were an S5W plant with an S3G core -3. My Narwhal was a one-of-a-kind. It was an S5G plant with a damn-near symmetrical engine room. The forward areas were laid-our great. A 688-vet told us that a perfect sub would be to put an LA-Class nosecone on our Engineering Spaces. Were you a Nuke? S6G, right?
EM1(SS) and a Plankowner on the MTS Sam Rayburn at NPTU Charleston. Now decommissioned, as I've read...
GTFO in 2/91!!!
David, MM1/SS Puig here. Here are some sub anecdotes I collected over the years... enjoy:
Part 1:
Kenneth Reed • I was a section adviser at NNPS in Orlando. One of my students had just failed an exam, and I took him to the Class Director (MMCM) for further counseling. The Class Director (MMCM) was dressing down the student for not completing his required study program. The CD told him, "I'll lead a horse to water, but I'll be damned if I'll suck on his ass to make him drink!" I was in tears, standing behind the student.
Dave Smith • Early 60's...USS Von Steuben on patrol...family grams were limited to 15 words, and were carefully censored for cryptic or 'suggestive' messages. According to my RM buddy, one that he saw get through read:
"Me, kids and parents fine. Love and miss you. Car won't start. Bring home crank."
David Riegler • A long time ago I was convinced that I needed to fill out an ID-10-T form. To this day I still use it. A neighbor was recently running for County Councilman and I asked him if he had filled out his required ID-10- T form. He asked the County Clerk and the Republican Party Leader before someone had him spell it out. Priceless!
Tom Mitchell • Once a coner came to maneuvering and said that he must have an ear infection, because “his Fallopian tubes were swollen”.
Phil Saner • SK 3rd Laundry Queen doing the CO's laundry. Toasted them! Use Gomer Pyle voice, "When they're smok'in they're dry'in, when they're burnt they're done." CO had to 'borrow' underwear for the rest of the patrol.
Butch Ford • Back on my first boat The Daniel Webster SSBN 626, I was standing Sonar Supervisor and a JO came in for his 4 hour sonar indoc before going to his CO interview. We of course explained all of the equipment how it worked what it was used for etc.
One of the pieces of gear the BQR-7 had a steering wheel like device on the front panel and a red button in the center of it. He asked what the button was for, and I explained with a strait face that is was a low frequency whale horn to chase away whales. He wrote it down like what I told him was gospel.
A few hours later the CO comes and finds me on the mess decks watching the movie and was laughing so hard while he was trying to chew my a$$ out. That JO wound up being my DivO the next run. He never trusted me... I wonder why?
Mark Martin • On the Teddy R back in the late 70's we had a RM2 from Puerto Rico with a thick accent. When he stood Below Decks you would hear on the 1MC "There are divers in the sail and mens in the water, no radiate or rotate nothin"
Gray Miller • where to even start… the cook that came aft with a box of crackers ready to 'feed the shaft seals'.
Christopher Reyes • We had a guy who talked really slow . One night, about 4 AM, he was testing the bridge case before surfacing, "This is a test of the 1MC from the bridge. 5...4....2..1...Correction, 3. This completes the test."
Same guy, different day. I was Ship's Duty Officer onboard USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul SSN 708. The officers had just been lambasted for topside routinely not piping the CO off correctly. I hear " Minneapolis departing." XO is already turning red. I looked at him and said "Don't worry XO, he'll pipe you as Saint Paul when you leave." Port and Starboard.
Norman Brent WHAM • I believe one of our SOPs stated;
"Cussing is prohibited, but, a salty comment now and then may be appropriate".
Duane Kleven • One of our XOs famously explained that there is no yelling and screaming on submarines, it’s “training at a high decibel level.”
Robert Leeper • the KISS principle… Keep it simple stupid. First Chief in A school, use it to this day.
Michael Beezley, P.E. • The 50-50-90 Rule. If there is a 50-50 chance, you will be wrong 90% of the time.
Mike Wheeler The version I know of that statement is "if a nuke is given the 50-50 chance, 90% of the time he will get it right."
Steven Grim • Another gem from ol' Navy days:
Why fart and waste it, when you can belch and taste it!
Mark Gaskill • My XO called the PRT the "semi annual brush with death"
Franklin Gillis • The one that sticks with me the most is returning from my first patrol on USS Rhode Island as the Maneuvering Watch Petty Officer of the Deck, MM1 Fred Mounce (crusty A-Ganger, and my former sea dad) popped his head out of the Missile Compartment LET and asked if I could see any FAT, UGLY, WOMEN on the pier. I replied no I hadn't. Fred sighed and said "Damn, my wife’s not here" and went back below. I was speechless and still think about it.
Stephen Chickos • I still use "If you ain't got nothing to do, don't do it here..". Since all the techs are ex-Navy or retired Navy, they scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on.
Mike Arsuaga • How about to old rejoinder to quit the yacking and bring the results that goes something like "I don't want to hear the labor pains. I want to see the baby."
Joe Perry • The stupid shall be punished - Lou Sykes SUBLANT CMC and my personal favorite after regaining consciousness following a 450vac arm to head electric shock then EM3 (now LCDR) Mark Yates - "Man, what that like tasking copper, smelling ozone and feeling the wrath of God?"
Brian Blodgett • Don't worry about the fire - the flooding will put it out!
I was stationed on the USS Hyman G. Rickover SSN-709, reported onboard very shortly after this was filmed and knew many of these guys. I served onboard three surface ships before volunteering for sub duty and servicing on three fast attack submarines. I'm very proud to have severed onboards submarines. Many exiting, very boring, funny, strange and even a few scary times and events. My favorite submarine was the USS Hammerhead (SSN-663). Thanks for posting.
Thank you for your service. How interesting that you knew some of the guys in my film.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmakerI was on the Rickover as crew augmentation for the Sonar Division and left just before you filmed this (just before Christmas). I later served with two of the Sonarmen at a subsequent command. Thank you for filming this.
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@@maximodwh4440 I was aboard in '86 performing a STAG on her. I remember when this film came out. I like the narrative and I think it presents my experiences from back in the day... I think I would miss the Sonar Shack which fell out of favor!
I wish I would have had some time with you on the boat to discuss the transition. I also came onboard right after this movie was made and came from the surface fleet. I must admit that it was a hard transition for me. With the challenges of the job and the stress on my family, it forced the end of my Navy career. I ended up transitioning into the Air Force and finished a thirty year career. I hope it all worked out for you.
Back when documentaries actually taught you something rather than just entertain you. There aren't many military docs that I've seen in the last 10 years that were even half as good as this. Excellent job.
Sean Nordeen Restrepo?
You've seen a military doc made in the last 10 years?
Mark Bell yes
They didn't get made by women back then. Coincidence?
@@michaelmcneil4168 "They didn't get made by women back then. Coincidence?"
Funny, I read that as "They didn't make by women back then. Coincidence?"
That explains the crew composition of the boat :D
22 year LA Class submarine vet here. This is an amazing film! Most authentic I have seen. It gave me “flashbacks” of a sort. Thank you for your painstaking capture of detail including what the uninitiated might think are mundane. They’re not. They’re the context that gives true, unvarnished meaning.
im in the middle of designing coins for the COB of the USS San Juan (which I think is an LA class).
Well put Mike. -JayHef
Any scary times out at sea? What is a storm like in a sub?
@@Chironex_Fleckeri Being on the surface sucks. There's no keel, so think of riding in a bottle next to your rubber ducky. Once you dive things usually calm immediately, unless there's a significant storm, think hurricane, then it can still cause movement when deep.
michael berg Thank you for your service
Thank you. I was a submariner 45 years ago, and this really hit home.
Cavalry vet here. I watched this with amazement. I now have a better understanding and a profound respect for submariners. Different breed for sure. Tip of my Stetson to you all.
I really appreciate what you said. I served aboard 5 different subs during a 20-year career and was very proud to have served.
Great Documentary! My oldest brother served on SSBN726 (Ohio). I joined the army and became a Green Beret. We each thought the other one was crazy. Mad respect to all the crews of our silent service. De Oppresso Liber!
My former husband served on the Ohio as well.
I was a surface Sonar Technician (STG) assigned to two Knox Class Frigates during the Cold War (1977-81). Finding and tracking Soviet subs was our primary mission (Anti-Submarine Warfare) while deployed. At that time, the Soviet Navy had more submarines than anyone on the planet. Our main targets were the "Boomers", or ballistic subs. The US Navy used their own Fast Attack subs to track boomers, along with ASW surface ships and various aircraft. There were also stationary sonar arrays near Greenland and in the Bering Sea. Many of the Soviet subs were noisy, and we took advantage of this. One of my ships, the USS Hewes, FF-1086, deployed a passive towed sonar array (TASS). We nicknamed it the 'tail'. We often acquired and tracked very long range targets (in the thousands of miles) when temperature, salinity and other factors were good. Our own subs also deploy TASS.
worked in ICU for 35 years after my nuc sub short career. Took 20 of those years for medicine to learn to repeat back verbatim any order to prevent errors of understanding. This film brings back vivid memories of those two month patrols.
Dear Mr. Hoffman,
It is highly remarkable how far we've come in the class of Submarines we have today. Having first hand knowledge & experience of how vulnerable the men were who served on these boats during WW2 was night & day compared to today. They truly were beyond brave. There should be a memorial in Washington DC just for them.
As a Navy Nuclear Power Operator, we never went to Sub School (circa 1988 to 1994). We got vetted in a completely different (and unique) way. I volunteered at MEPS for Sub's and knew that is what I wanted to do as a US Navy Nuke. I then qualified almost everything in the forward end of The Boat (which is what you witnessed in this movie) after qualifying everything in the Engine Room. I loved (almost) every minute of the 6 years I served the USN. Great folks in a demanding career. I've never experienced that level of teamwork (before or) again. I work at a Commercial Nuclear Power Plant today thanks to the USN and its mentoring / schooling. A good number of us reminisce about our Sub-Life (past tense) and we are still in the business of picking on the Surface Sailor's every chance we get. Some things never change!
I was onboard when this was filmed. Really miss my time with these guys. We did alot of drills for the film crew.
Lots of drills for special events. . . the Navy way-. ;-)
My question is- how many field days did you have before the film crew arrived? :-D
Whats the story with those silly glasses?
RE the glasses... probably getting night vision ready for PD trip
Thank you for your service and sacrifices.
C J of all the armed forces these are the greatest heroes to my mind. You guys are the scariest deterrent there is. And the conditions are the harshest. The risk the greatest. And the thanks the most lacking. Cheers mate.
Never forget.
I served on the USS Florida (B) from 1991-1994. My best stories are still things that occurred on the boat. Everyone is stellar, and it was a big drop down from the quality of the crew to a normal civilian work environment.
FTB2/SS Gress SSBN 729 B Georgia July 88- January 93. Sharks of Steel filmed by the Discovery Channel while I was onboard.
This was my first submarine from 2003 - 2007. Great memories from my time there. This was simply excellent. Excellent.
Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that TH-cam is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Other documentary directors should take note : What an excellent documentary ,no stupid music no silly camera angles and clear narration ,thank for the film 10/10
No Time For bullshit!
Also. British narrators put me to sleep instantly.
plus Tom Clancy looking like an absolute god of the silent service. when is the last time they brought out an author...
@@charliem989 ..."Das Boot"...is as close as any movie ever came to "smellovision"....liked the part where everybody had to rush to the front of the boat in a crash dive....
@@westrnite u 0 0 loo l.p.
My nephew when asked by his mom if one aspect of his job was dangerous replied: "We fill a 400' long tube with pipes full of 1500 psi live steam,440 volt current running everywhere, torpedoes, ballistic rockets with massive warheads and a nuclear reactor. Then we SINK IT ON PURPOSE. EVERY thing we do is dangerous.."
Steam is much higher and air goes to 3000 psig. 880 volts aren't the problem, it's the amps that will kill you. Static electricity is probably 10, 000 volts. ETR2SS Williams
The overall risk depends purely on the design characteristics of the machine involved. The specific danger of structural failure of submarines is due to the ambient pressure of the water at any specific depth, that's why being in a submarine is more dangerous than being on a surface ship anything else is the same risk as that would be on the surface.
The submariner incurs no more risk than any other seafarer on the surface from electrocution from high voltage or from burns from high pressure steam. A nuclear powered aircraft carrier poses exactly the same risks for the crew. Submariners aren't the only ones who face this risk
David Williams “your mother” would not understand those details...
Aimless Studios amine (type of ammonia) absorbs CO2 when cold then releases it overboard when heated and we make oxygen by separating water and pump the H2 overboard
David Williams we had 4500# air 450 3 phase AC steam maxed at 550 down to 300# at a flank bell
That is the way it was. I was an MS, or CS, as it is called now, for 4 years on Augusta SSN 710. Next ship after this one. I miss it every day and watching this brought back fond and froughtfull memories.
I was on board when you guys filmed this. Was an FTG2. Thank you for putting it on TH-cam!
My father left the Navy in the late 1950's. He was an officer and a scientist. Dad helped build atomic reactors at Westinghouse Corp, Admiral Rickover's program! I still remember when the USS Thresher was lost on her sea trials! Dad and his co-workers were relieved when there was no problem with the reactor. Sad loss for the submarine fleet! I was only a child but I knew how terrible that loss was for the USA! ⚓⚓⚓⚓
U must also been a scientist like him👍👍👍
@@mieaab Learn the hard way, as a nuke submariner we have the utmost respect, we also understand the dangers that come with it. Without failure there is no improvement.
You hear about SUBSAFE from the recounts of history, but never the wording for the intent of the program. SUBSAFE is a program for design and training that provides maximum, reasonable assurance that the crew and the ship can recover from flooding or other catastrophic events. Since that time, other events have occurred on submarines, but never with the lethality and loss of an entire submarine and crew like happened with USS Thresher and USS Scorpion. Just last year the SEAWOLF-class sub, SSN Connecticut, struck an underwater geographic feature in the South China Sea and came home afterward. The SSN San Francisco hit an uncharted, underwater mountain in the Pacific in an incident that destroyed her forward ballast tanks entirely and cost the life of a crew member, but she came home with the remainder of her crew. SSN Hartford was struck by a US Navy surface ship, nearly tearing off her sail and ripping open 2-inch thick, incredibly strong steel. The event turned the entire boat on her side, and one sailor was fatally injured when that occurred. Hartford also came home with the rest of her crew. I was at an all-hands, training seminar hearing about Hartford's accident from a man who served as an officer onboard when that occurred. I worked with another man who was on the shipyard repair crew, and he told me what he saw in the torn hull plates on Hartford. To the credit of the shipbuilder's who built SSN Hartford, not a single weld joint failed on her hull. The crew aboard subs respond bravely and professionally due to their integrity of purpose and the rigorous training they endure. I remember a retired sailor speaking to us about being stationed in Portsmouth Naval Yard right after the Thresher tragedy and telling how it really hit home because of seeing tow trucks. Over one-hundred tow trucks lined up to take away cars from the parking lot, each of which belonged to a person who expected to go home afterward that test cruise. In the same way, beyond any technical or military implication, the thing that impacted me most was that former Hartford officer showing a picture at the end of his speech from the day he arrived home from that deployment and was holding his baby girl.
@@Isadore123L True.. Very True
❤Tremendous loss, but we learned & improved through SubSafe program.
This is an excellent documentary. My father was a career submariner during the Cold War. His first command was an attack boat, U.S.S. Cubera 347. Then on to command SQD 6 SUBDIV61. I was very fortunate to have spent a great deal of time on the boats. From U.S.S. Skipjack SSN 585 and the legendary Nautilas SSN 571 way back in the 1960s, in addition to several deisel-electric boats, including the Cubera. Memories I will cherish for the rest of my life.
34 years in the Nav and 5 Subs. I miss the intensity and professionalism. I am proud of it but it is a young man's game and I could never hack it now.
So it's the same . . . be it, doing point, at the front . . . or, keeping those birds operational . . . to accomplish the mission. If you weren't an effective member of a team . . . people died ! ! !
Even if it is a young man's game, everybody could use the the wisdom of experience. But, I respect your retirement.
Lee Olson Sir! You have my ultimate respect because of the job you did. Thank you for your service! Not many men can do that job.
Lee Olson: I know exactly how you feel Lee. I’m 64 now, I’ve been retired from the Nav for 25 years. There’s no way I could go back to subs now. Just getting up and down the ladders would not be fun.
God bless you, your fellow Navy men, and all of your loved ones. YOURS WAS A CRUCIAL PART in defeating the Soviet Union. (causing its break-up)
This is documentary filmmaking of the highest order. It gets under the skin of the subject without being intrusive. Bravo.
Never see the filmmaker. Not that is something I do not expect of someone in films. True professionalism worthy of men men you are with.
“You never really leave the boats” So true! 23 years on SSN’s, been retire since 2005 and would go back today… Only a Bubblehead can understand. Almost made me tear.
Same here brother.
Extremely proud to be part of building the Virginia class and soon the Columbia. Every day we remind each other about the importance of our product and those who are aboard.
Thank you Sir, from a Boat Sailor. Yard professionals are a MAJOR part of our success. Relay to all others from me, eternal gratitude. James Timlin
The Galley and Crews Mess arrangement sucks. Return it to the 688 arrangement pls. Big long tables - stupid idea.
I was on subs as a nuke on a fast attack and a boomer. Boomers were definitely better duty. I met Rickover 4 times - each time was very memorable. The fact that you could put 96 guys together on a sealed boat for ~95 days and still have 96 guys sane and in one piece when you pulled in was amazing and a testament to the screening involved to be a submariner. Note that the video left the back (engineering) half of the boat out of the video (classified / no-foreign). The video brings back a lot of memories. Zumewalt's book On-Watch had a chapter called the Rickover Connection which described Rickover to a T. An excellent read that I highly recommend. - Thanks so much for uploading it!
I was wondering for a second if they were actually going to let him back there before they shut the hatch. Would've been nice to see the engine room again. :)
I will never forget deploying on the USS Tarawa LHA1 on my first Westpac in 1986, while watching as we left port I watched as our submarine submerged, never to be seen again until 6 months later as our battle group returned it came to the surface, I'm so happy that I wasn't a bubblehead...
My grandfather just keeps me interested.. .very proud of him and his talent. Serving silent service ww2. RIP Pappa.... USS SCABERFISH
RIP shipmate.
As a retired submariner, it is nice to see a realistic portrayal of what went through, the space, the closeness, the stress and the day to day grind that is a submarine patrol. I tip my cap to you David for this film, and all that assisted in the making of it. It is a shame, that way too many people simply don't understand what we went through, and maybe that is for the best!
I agree with you, I never served aboard subs, nor ever had any intention of, but I was able to tour one, when our ship was providing boats to a sub that was allowed to go to a foreign port. First and only time we ever did that. I was a hole snipe, and it is very hard to convey to people what it was like, especially when you can not visualize it.
I was stationed in Charleston doing boomer patrols as a sonarman out of Kings Bay when this was made. This is a really good film. I'm surprised at how much access they gave the filmmakers. We were still heavy into the Cold War. This really hits home. Thanks for making it available. I never saw it before.
I served on this boat from '89 to '93. I miss all the friends I served with while onboard the Rickover.
having served in the Marine Corps, I don't know how you submariners do it....alot of respect.
Thanks.
I always liked the Navy.....they give us Marines rides everywhere. 😏
Feeling is mutual, Marine!
We eat good, have a clean place to sleep, etc. Don't underestimate yourself. You had it rough too. Submarines are just a different kind of rough.
@@michaelw.lemaster9779 yeah that's a reminder that we always did that for you that was our job the submarine service took out 3/4 of the Japanese Navy so you're welcome for that too
Love this Film! I spent 20 years on submarines. Probably the best life choice I ever made.
I served under Capt. Lemkin aboard the Michigan SSBN 727 on my last tour. Quite a guy.
I really liked the British guy, CDR Compton-Hall, he seemed to really understand what a submarines are all about.
One thing they didn’t or couldn’t tell you is that Admiral McKee is pretty much a legend. Read “Blind Man’s Bluff” great book about submarine missions in the Cold War, If you want to know more about him and the others of that era.
If you’ve got the aptitude I highly recommend the Submarine Service you’ll never find a more challenging or fulfilling life.
Served aboard SSBN 635(B) early seventies. SK2(SS) Six patrols in the North Atlantic. Some of the most dedicated and professional crews you could imagine. In addition to my 24hr on call supply duties, I stood diving planes and later sonar watches. One of a thousand memories can be triggered by a sound, smell, even a number. The narrator was right. You never really leave the boat. We volunteered twice.
Same era for me Shipmate...but on an attack sub....snorkeling through the sewers of Moscow.
I wore poopie suits during 3 patrols aboard SSBN 608(B), and got to read all of the family grams, some were hilarious.
I jumped out of planes for the Army,15 years and submariner's always had my respect it takes real bravery to get into a boat and sink in intentionally hat's off to you guys
I was a submariner and cold not see jumping out of a perfectly good. airplane.😁😁😁
I joined the Royal Navy in 1962, served on surface ships until 1972, then joined the submarine navy in Australia, as they said in the video it was like I had found my little slot in the world, this is where I belonged. I served until 1988. We had diesel boats, but the dangers and comraderie were the same.
"We had diesel boats, but the dangers and comraderie were the same." True that shipmate. 5 diesel boats and a 688 here.
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gotta love "O"Boats..
but the smell was much, much worse
They visit more ports. Some countries won't let nuclear subs visit.
The original Deep Dive series. This is awesome.
scouring the youtubes for submarine tours ? , yep ! . maybe you should mention this series in one of your submarine videos .
thanks to you , i am getting really interested in submarine design .
What’s up Destin
no place for a guy with claustrophobia!.....
remember seeing that "boat" coming up the Ohio River....[obviously submerging was out of the question!
submarines added a three-dimensional aspect to naval warfare.....
Thank you for this Mr. Hoffman. “Former” submariner here, electrician in the nuclear power program, got out in 1986. Served on USS Tecumseh and USS Lafayette. Hopefully I can get my wife to watch this!
The Teacup and the Laughalot. Good boats.
What a flood of memories. The year this was filmed I made Chief. You never leave the submarine service, no matter how long you've been retired.
I left service in 2005, i miss it every day. I will always be a submarine sailor. Its in my will to be buried at sea from a submarine on westpac. Amine still runs through these veins. Lol
@@scottbarber8515 Looking into your world . . . I aee this NOT as Lol . . . but serious business/existance . . . you inevitably will take, to your last breath . . . on this earth. I'm speaking from the view of an infantryman, with submariners . . . as relatives !
Benc65753// You Can never leave my friend, It is Inbreed in you once you chop the ice away to the Floating Platform in New London CT. in the winter time. Once they Tag your Dolphins to your chest. I still have the Pin marks on my Chest.
Only one way out CPO we our not their yet if still on the green side........ We Had a cook Tom Ramsey, Best in the Navy, Whats for Dinner, ....? Cake and Coc_ and we just ran out of Cake.......Made the mistake said it to my New Bride she said I'll take (B)......
As He said They never Let you Go.......... Once Dolphins our Tagged on they never come off.....
Sub vet here. Great documentary! I got out in 1985, so this is all very familiar to me.
One note on your comments about the skipper. On one boat we went from a Captain we respected and admired to one that, during our WEPS qualification, showed he was timid and indecisive. That made us feel like we had a good chance of him getting us killed in a hostile situation. The effect on attitude and morale was devastating. Compare that to another boat I was on where the skipper was smart, aggressive, tactically brilliant, and would back his crew to the hilt. We would go anywhere and do anything for that man, and it made a bond in the crew that was stronger than steel.
Same thing happened on our boat, a Fast Attack. I will keep the name to myself to protect the guilty. I got out in 79 BTW.
Thank you for your service to our country sir. I sleep soundly at night thanks to brave ones like you.
Thanks David for making this excellent documentary available to the TH-cam audience. These were brave souls that our Nations security seriously and I will be forever grateful for their service, unfortunately people like The Walker Family made all of these men's efforts at being stealthy irreverent as they hold sold the Crypto codes for communication to the Soviets so at any given time our Nations vital assets positions were known by our enemy. I served proudly 4yrs in USN 2yrs on Patrol Gunboat 92 USS Tacoma including Vietnam tour in '72 but never intentionally went below the sea like these brave sailors did for our National security which so many take for granted these days.
I got out in 2006. You'd be surprised how little had changed since then.
The traitorous Walker's should have been publicly and graphically executed as soon as their guilt was established. To allow them to live, sends a dangerous signal to others contemplating a similar course. I served in the U S Navy, Aviation Anti-submarine Warfare community in the 70's, with S-3 Vikings aboard the USS America and have tremendous respect for submariners. Semper Fi … Never Forget ! ^v^
Served on SSN-664 (Sea Devil) and SSN-688 (Los Angeles) fast-attack nuke boats. Great video!! On a Med cruise we (SSN-688) the newest fast-attack in the fleet was on one side of a sub-tender ship and the Nautilus (SSN-571) was on the on the other side. Crews got to see the old and the new. Later after leaving the Navy I was a project engineer on the Seawolf SSN-21 development. Got several opportunities to fix the designs from shipyard and Navy engineers who had never worked at sea. The qualification training was so engrained I can still walk my way thru starting up the engineroom after 40 years. Miss it all and the video brings back some great memories.
Outstanding doc. on subs. I lost an uncle during World War Ii while he was serving on a sub. Ever since thenI have been fascinated by them . This video is by far the best example that I've come across . I now know what life was like back then . The film " Das Boat" was very good at depicting life on a sub. during the war . Many thanks for posting
Das Boot explains why they called them pig boats Wonder what the quality of the air is? Like a locker room? Or a machine shop?
I joined the submarine service in 1962 qualified on 5 submarines including a diesel boat. I think of the life often. The COB was very wise you never leave. The men I served with were some of the finest I have ever known. I just wouldn’t let my daughter date one.
Well said Shipmate.
"I just wouldn’t let my daughter date one."
It's the old adage: "Where do your parents get to know about the things they warn you about?"
Victor, an old friend of mine served about the same time as you. He was on the post WWII Tang, also a diesel boat. He passed away about 15 years ago, but I still remember a couple of his cold war stories.
Advice , Go To the Reunions.
Great. As a 1980's boomer sailer, can't imagine the life on board a diesel boat!
I was a qualified Reactor Operator (RPCP) on a Permit (Formerly Thresher) class fast attack submarine. My enlistment ended in 1972. This documentary brought back many memories.
I'm glad that it did bring back those memories. Thank you for commenting.
David Hoffman filmmaker
I served on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 as a member of the Navigation Division. Miss those times, many of my Facebook friends were brothers I served alongside with. Every submariner, male or female, is part of a close-knit community, and I would do it all over again if given the chance. It was hard, stress levels were high, and you felt isolated. So why would anyone want this you may ask? Because, if a person can handle being on a submarine, if he or she can prove to themselves and their fellow Submariners that they deserve the coveted title of a Submariner, then no matter what, that person will always be a Submariner. A Submariner could have qualified in submarines over 50 years ago, and he is still a Submariner. This is a title only bestowed to those truly worthy of it, and very few people have earned it. Every Submariner reading this, you are my brother or sister, and I'm damn proud of you and I would gladly serve with you. I qualified in submarines in December 2003, a moment I'll remember always, and I'll always be a Submariner.
ETV2(SS) Glenn Scroggins 🇺🇸
qualified in August 2003 aboard the 738 (gold crew)
I am so proud of our guys that silently roam around our waters as well other locations protecting us and our interest. Submariners that I have known and met are very special and very strong and independent people. Thank you for your service and all that you and your families sacrifice to ensure our country is safe.
Well said.
The new USS Rickover (SSN-795) is a Virginia class sub placed in service in August 2021. I wish her good luck and trust that she will equal or surpass SSN-709's fine service record. I'm guessing that 11 months later that she has completed her sea trials and may possibly be on patrol as I write this.
GODSPEED brave crew, Submariners are America's finest. We all can take pride in our Silent Service, the best in the world.
I was 611 and 642 blue crews. Every submarine disaster still hits me hard and my last patrol ended September 1975! All submarine crews are family. Every one even the Russians presumably hunting for me back then. I hope the men and now women are kept safe.
Smooth sailing.
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ― Winston Churchill
Just checked this, its disputed that George Orwell said it first and Rudyard Kipling said something very similar before him. Its a good quote though regardless of who said it :-)
polticians sleep ok there is a steel bunkers us poor bastards get killed
I've been around the silent service. These men aren't rough. They're intelligent, determined, and professional.
@@Falcrist We are also most definitely rough.
@@ColdWarVet607 Meh. I lived with and around the sub force for decades. Rough is a bad description.
Far from rough, sub personnel are among the most polished individuals I've ever met.
Dear Mr. Hoffman, I am the Carrier Sailor who has corresponded with you about Flight Deck previously. After retiring, I worked for many years with a retired Sailor who served in the 'Silent Service'. He used to regale me with stories about hunting U.S. Navy targets - including my former carriers! Everything was a 'target' to them, and much of the time our sub-service technicians were unable to locate or identify such subs. Much respect to your meticulous attention to detail in this video.
spot on, everything seen through the periscope is a target!
There are only two types of ships in the Navy, Submarines and TARGETS.
When I was in the Marine Corp I had the utmost respect for the submariners! Even being in a branch of service that serves on the sea you still have no clue what these men go through. Like the movie said they are in a war state at all times. They are fighting the sea. Keeping the water out. Making sure you dont hit a surface ship. Playing cat and mouse if you encounter an opposing sub. Making sure you dont hit an undersea mountain, drilling rig pipe, derelict wreckage. Your alertness is required at all times. It is a level of stress and tension that is unperalelled. We had some submariners join us for a short time in 2nd AAV so they could understand what coastal assualt was. So they could develop and practice tactics to cover our ass. While we are out there launching helicopters, VTOL jets and driving out assault vehicals off the back of the ship how could they help us. How could they best sink the frigate, destroyer, or other sub gunning for us without getting in our way. Without making a mistake and taking us out. Anytime I would see the sub badge over a row of ribbons or sewn on the tops of fatigues I knew they could be depended on. That they strived to be the best at whatever task they had. As a Unit Diary Clerk i was also a Rifleman and in one of my units a recon patrolman too. With that sub badge you knew they could be a cook but also needed to be a mechanic capable of stopping a leak, a corpman capable of stoping someone's bleeding, a fireman, a counselor, a teacher and so much more. They are among those elite of the services that do not get the same recognition as SEALS, Green Berets, Air Assualt but they deserve so much more. There dedication, knowledge, sacrifices and security they provide us put them in a class of there own.
When I was on subs we hung out with marines when in Port. We didn't really get along with the surface members. Civilians didnt get it when they saw us together.
@@tombkds1 i can sort of understand that. The Marine Corp instills a certain feeling of...for lack of a better word...superiority..in you. Marine training is longer and harder than any other armed force unless you go into special ops. Being a submariner puts you in that superior class of training, discipline and self respect you only get from being in the Marine Corp, Submariner, SEAL, Green Beret, Rangers and such. Not all but a lot of the surface fleet sailors just looked at there jobs as whatever.
And I you. I was somewhat peeved for not getting a PUC, having expected it. Then I heard it was awarded to those Devil Dogs in Fallujah, and I felt terrible for expecting such an accolade for my service.
Its the silent service for a reason.
You have an issue with "asphalt", apparently.
What luxuries. I served in Fire Control on two Diesel/Electric "boats" the late 1960's. No laundry, a 30 sec shower every 8 days, hot bunk, and coffee with a film of diesel. Narragansett Bay.
Diesel boats forever.
Hmmmmmm . . . makes your experience, almost desirable ! 🇺🇸
No laundry ? A particular 'locker room aroma' matures, as your mission evolved ! 😨😖😬
Ah yes, “Hot Bunking,” I remember it well! But - No showers ever!
I was on in 80, still hot bunking when squadron officers got their sea pay for taking our bunks. One of the reason I got out. Three days a quarter was it?
This movie was filmed on my boat (Hyman G Rickover) less than a year before I arrived. I served with the majority of the folks in the movie. It was an honor to serve on such a complex machine. Coming from the surface fleet, I earned new respect for the tenacity of crew and life on the boat. The sub Navy compared to the surface Navy is very different which I wasn’t fully prepared for. The hours worked both in primary duties and training are not for the light of heart. I was never bored, but 20 plus hour days were not uncommon. Every moment of sleep you could get was all that you yearned for. There was no time for anything else. Every other moment of every day was filled with day to day work and training, training, training. Very strong coffee kept the boat purring. Still love strong black coffee to this day. You couldn’t function without it.
I served on a nuclear submarine for four years from 1977-81. The Officers from LT (O-3) Up had been personally interviewed by ADM Rickover when they applied for nuclear power school. Man did they have stories about him!
I would be interested to see how today's officers would stand up to ADM Rickover. Many a man left his office in tears, from my understanding. I was lucky enough to talk to someone who had been interviewed by Admiral Rickover.
Yeah, Rickover must've been bullied as a kid. The stories I heard, I'd have flunked the interview I'm sure. I'd have given back as good as I got.
@@KutWrite Actually, from my understanding you probably would have passed the interview, if you could back up what you were giving.
@@Dick_Interritus: You're probably right. I met a submariner who did that and thought he'd failed. He was accepted with some words of support from Rickover.
@@KutWrite I heard Rickover convinced some young Ensign to cancel his wedding, because he wouldn't have time for a wife He then pointed at his phone and told the Ensign to call his fiancee and cancel the wedding. The Ensign, then dialed the phone, and Rickover then really let him have it....
Visited the submarine memorial in Pearl Harbour in 2014 and was shocked to learn that the USN lost 52 submarines in WW2,that equates to about 1 a month during the war.Forever on silent patrol .RIP .Lest We Forget.
Still nothing compared to the losses German Uboats took. Those are really almost shocking, especially since that was _not_ a volunteer service. It was something like 4/5ths of _all_ German Uboat crewmen didn't survive the war. Crazy.
@@justforever96 Russian submariners had no walk in the park with the vessels they were handed for their mission. WidowMaker was a real thing, radiation poisoning her own crew because of shortcuts in design and safety. Those who work at General Dynamics Electric Boat take pride in designing and supplying our warfighters with the best possible means to protect our sailors, our families, and our country.
Look into Congressman Andrew May's public comments which caused severe loss of life of WWII submariners
compared to those" historic subs" life on a "modern" sub of today seems almost luxurious.
Eternal patrol
My great nephew is on a nuclear attack sub. (US Navy) This film helped me understand a little bit of what's involved. Thank you for posting this.
Airdale Navy, ASW. Looking back, we did a few drills with subs but I never had an understanding of quite what they do. I personally could never see myself on a ship that sinks on purpose. Much respect to all those that are or have done this. You guys are the real MVPs!
Excellent. Well worth watching. I’ve known only a couple submariners, and this fills in many things I always had a curiosity about regarding the men on board. These are great men, and I am lucky to know them.
Even though I served in the United States military myself in another branch, I totally understand and respect any sailor who served the silent service.
Superlative documentary. Really good work. "No manoeuvre here can ever be routine". No margin for error. How did this sub captain feel about being commander of the Rickover. Considering the gigantic status of the namesake.
... What an excellent crew of sailors.
This Rickover has been Decommissioned a while ago, and a NEW one is being built in the NEW Virginia Class being built nowadays..
Almost 40 years on Active Duty in the United States Navy... My two Submarine tours rank amongst the most challenging and rewarding tours I have had... to include Combat ashore... So proud to serve with such dedicated, intelligent, and hard working people... Will be with me the rest of my life, my Navy Submarine Family. V/r “TRACER”
An absolutely fantastic documentary. Time in service...unlike any other part of my life. True, one never leaves it. Out 23 years now, and I still dream of it...the boats, the sea, my fellow crew members.
RIP Mr. Tony. He was one of my instructors going through aircrew school.
Been there done that....Im proud to be a part of the brotherhood of Submarine Shipmates. Salute to you all - past and present!
Got Plenty of T Shirts Brother of the Phin?
Trojan Horse Solutions, LLC. Thank you for your service
I was a 3rd generation USN and 2nd generation submarine veteran. Alot of people and even my family has asked what it is like serving on submarines. I give them a vague answer, but they don't understand. My dad and I have talked about our times on boats, but there are things that we don't talk about.
Be safe and be 😎
I personally hated it. I made a big mistake in going to subs. I served honorably, but I really don't miss it
Excellent video! I was in surface sonar, anti-submarine warfare. I rode on a diesel boat and a fast attack for a few days trading each to observe evasive maneuvers from surface attacks. Great training, a real eye opener! That being said, I was more than ready to get back on my destroyer. My hat's off to these brave men!
I was an AO at Whidbey NAS. I don’t think I’d be a great candidate for submarine duty, I have huge respect for those that do. It looks like this was filmed in the late 80’s on a LA class 688? Very well done documentary.
That first scene on the bridge where the OOD, Conning Officer, Diving Officer, Helmsman, etc. (Excuse me if I'm not calling them the correct thing I was a surface guy) are all communicating and giving and taking orders makes me nostalgic.
I served on the older diesel electric boats, I qualified on the USS Harder, SS568 and on the USS Odax, SS484. I was the navigator (QM3SS). I was in 1963-1966. I sure miss those days.
Served on the SSN-651 back in the 70's....awesome documentary David!
Thank you for your comment and your service.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
+flyinhawaiian49
How long did it take to get every one of your fellow Submariners turned on to Zappa, out of curiosity?
Wow, a very rare comment from another Queenfish sailor. I was on the commissioning crew and stood at parade rest on 12/6/66. I made RM1 and became one of 51 E-6s.
Took her to HI, made an 8 month Westpac trip, we were the closest USN vessel to the Pueblo when it was captured by N. Korea, and was transferred to FLEET SUB PAC (changed to NASTIPAC) to teach refresher courses in the maintenance and repair of 2 crypto receivers.
Stay safe and healthy amigo.
RMCS(SS) Ret.
Yes he did. I commissioned the Queenfish on 12/6/1966 3 months before the Sturgeon, lead boat in that class.
651...that was the Queenfish wasn't it?
One of my brothers (now deceased) was a submariner for many years, served mainly on the USS Halibut, running and maintaining the reactor. Seeing this film really educated me about him and his personality. Though he was very successful in his Naval career, he was a terrible sibling. The NAVY saw something in him that we didn't. I didn't like him (you can't choose family members), but I admired him for his military service. That "shell" did bring on marital issues with 2 divorces. And yes, he was always "on guard," keeping much of his life a secret, even for the years after he retired. Thank you for posting this video...much appreciated!
"It could be that you're already killed, you just haven't found it out yet"
Capt Edward L Beach referring to the highly technical nature of modern undersea warfare.
Chilling.
Yeah, well a couple of Japanese submarines found that out during WWII in the Pacific.
@@GaryMCurran and the Thresher
@@pedrolopez8057and the USS Scorpion in 1968.
I'm only ten minutes into the movie, and I can already tell how different this is from documentaries of today, I'm not gonna name any of those diferences since I know smart people will understand, however I do want to point out this: the video format used captures their reality in such a fidelity that is beyond pixel count, today we have such a fetiche in high resolutions and frames that something was lost in the way. Thank you for uploading this.
I'm only 5 minutes in, and the fact that every spoken line hasn't been repeated at least 3 times just confirms that this documentary is a notch above the rest.
got to work on that decommissioning project at Shippingport. PA...ostensibly, the worlds first nuclear plant...my first reaction when I saw the reactor shell was that it looked like part of a submarine...since this built at the time of Rickover and the Nautilis, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised......
I reported aboard my first Submarine in Dec 1970. It was an experience like no other. It was a job that demanded more from you personally, mentally, physically and emotionally than anything else I ever had to deal with. Builds character
G'day Mr Hoffman, As a documentary maker let me congratulate you on an excelent film. I'm ex-RAAF, however, I've been fascinated by submarines for decades. I got to go on-board one when it was docked and I decided I simply could not live aboard one, ever. Yet, I'm still in awe of them and I've seen just about every submarine documentary available. This is one of the best I've seen. I don't know how you coped with a full tour, I would have been a wreck after a few days and nights. I have nothing but the deepest respect for submariners. I've only known two well enough to call mates but, as you say, as they say in your film no one but a fellow submariner really knows them. Thank you for a first rate film, all those years ago. It's outstanding! Cheers, BH
Bill Halliwell
- After multiple Special Forces combat tours, a USN Submarine Service Torpedoman gave me a tour of his old fleet boat. Even though he wouldn't answer many of my questions (I had a TS but no "need to know." That's how it works!), I fell in love with the aromas and tight quarters. After that, becoming a submariner became a dream never realized. [What a laugh it would have been to be a bubblehead with a Combat Infantry Badge (CIB), Master Parachutist Wings, foreign Parachutist Wings, and a Pathfinder Torch!]
De Oppresso Liber
The nuke fast attack boats are underwater aeroplanes in the way that they can maneuver while submerged.
STS2 (SS) '81-87 Man-o-Man was this a trip in the wayback machine for me.
BRAVO-ZULU to the production crew, and the men that I call Brothers.
Fair winds....
Fleaswtracenpac.
Hey shipmates.
Thank you for this video. I am not a submariner. I was in the Gator Navy mostly. I was however stationed in Groton and repaired and modified them. Most of the personnel I meet were great. I learned a lot and did many repairs that most could or were not allowed. The crews were always grateful for my work.
Dallas (SSN-700) 1989-1992' Pittsburgh (SSN-720) 1996-1997. Machinery Division. Great film. Brought back memories.
My dad served many years in submarines starting with Silversides (SS) 236 and ending on Scamp SS(N) 588. He put her in commission. He was proud of serving in submarines
The Siversides is in a museum in Muskegeon, MI. On memorial day they start the engines and have a very nice ceremony.
Mr. Hoffman, thank you so much for this presentation and tribute to the Silent Service. Military service is a sacred thing to me. Acknowledging and remembering these patriots is something we should all take time to do. I have never met a submariner. If I did the only question I would ask him would be, "please, feel free to tell me what you can. Anything you can share with me would be deeply appreciated. Thank you for your service".
David Hoffman you lucky somebody....thank you for this excellent production! In 1967-68 the world's record free dive was held by Robert Croft, first to exceed 200' on one breath. Tom Clancy had consulted with experts at NSRDC division in Annapolis, MD, where I believe there was/is a tank around 300' deep used in research. Growing up about a mile from the gate of the complex, Bob Croft was a legend to us 10-12 yr olds :) My father was stationed 20 years at the US Naval Academy, was a member of the Fleet Reserve Club where he'd come to know Capt. Dix, the skipper of a 53' research sub "X-1". One morning while getting ready for school my father's at my bedroom door saying "Downstairs!!!! NOW!!!!" I'm wondering what the Hell'd I done NOW? In the kitchen he says "you wanna go on a submarine today????" Uh yeah..... and not just a little..... ya see........ this can't be real......
I wouldn't let him throw out our defunct hot water tank...... I'm gonna build a submarine..... yeah I'm serious!!! It won't be roomy, but cruising the Chesapeake is the mission. He drove me to the yard at NSRDC, dropped me off for a pretty long day...... out to the sub on what I recall was a PT boat..... on board Capt. Dix introduces the crew. One of the pilots is Bob Croft...... I think he wasn't aware of what a hero he was. We went across the Bay, submerged...... of course when you're 11 and a submarine enthusiast the periscope is cool as it gets :) Last I saw of the X-1 she was on display across the street from the Field House at USNA.
The narrator's voice is really familiar...... you say "filming" in description...... literally film, and 16 or 35 mm?
Thanks for the memories. I qualified on the first ballistic missile submarine. USS George Washington SSBN 598. 1971-1975. I worked on several pieces of equipment which had serial numbers like: XXX, 00001, 0000. Not a very comforting feeling at 200 ft depth. We experienced flooding, fires, radio active water spills. My longest without surfacing was 72 days. I was 21 when I came onboard. The average age was about 23. ETN2 SS 1969-1978. Today I was in contact with 3 friends that were on the boat with me. Life long friendships. 50 years.
The Sail of the 598 is on display at HS Nautilus Museum in Groton Conn. I helped install it there. 20 or so years ago.
Rad-Con 67-69 AS-33 USS SIMON LAKE. was aboard the Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, T.Roosevelt, Madison, and a few I can't remember. Repair of those subs was only done, when someone recognized a problem. We were only as good as the crew reporting problems. I never once saw a work order turned down for lack of money or a laz-e-fair attitude. The only thing I could see during my time in Repair, was crew inexperience due to such a new engineering experience with Nuke Reactors. Repair were done with extreme care and diligence and the finest testing techniques available at the time. Thanks to Adm Rickover for his dedication and flat common sense that the Nuclear Navy is what it is today.
as a retired sailor and submariner i get asked all kinds of questions regarding life aboard the boats, i then point them to this documentary. thank you for posting it to youtube.
I point them to the TH-cam video "Blind Mans Bluff" which gives them a glimpse into our lives during the cold war.
"even when he retires, he never really leave the boats" - the Truest statement in the life of a Submariner. I would go to sea today if given the opp to serve again.
I still remembered my rack when he filmed berthing.....
That’s my experience, as a former submariner from 1977-81
Going 'full circle' displaying the CO's rack would be valued. I've seen the CO's quarters, for an aircraft carrier . . . however, being that space is at a premium, his quarters on a sub are inevitably miniature to that, above water !
You would go to sea still, me too
A heartfelt salute from an aircraft carrier vet (USS Coral Sea, CV-43) to my brothers of the deep.
@@markloper5400 Nice to hear that shipmate! I was with VAW-127 'Seabats'
Good old girl. The Coral Sea. Spent three years on her from 77-80 as past of the Marine Detachment. Great duty.
I was a part of the crew for the last deployment in '06. Great seeing my old boat. Thanks for making and uploading this, David.
Although this film was done in 1986, I have to admit that it was one of the best documentary I have seen about submarines and its crew. I am not a submariner but I do admire the bravery and intelligence that these sailers have. Even in youth I could not do this job.
I praise your work, David. One of the best no-nonsense looks at submarines I'd ever watched. Your interviews are fabulous and the script made from these interviews is to be studied for their perfect editing!
Rob. Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that TH-cam is beta testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Submariner myself, Plank Owner USS SCRANTON SSN- 756 , seeing this brings back so many great memories. To this very day the friends I served with I consider them family even more than my actual blood relatives.
@kevinc4632 . I had to look up the term Plank Owner. This may be an understatement, but the pride that seems to come out in you and others mentioning it, speaks volumes👍🏽. E-7 USAR RETD.
@@vinyltapelover You are correct, as initial crew members we were the ones whom helped build her in the shipyards, sea trials, then commissioning ceremony. Then out on patrols, nothing compares than serving on a Submarine " you" actually helped to create. That boat is literally a part of all us Plank Owners for the rest of our time on earth. Thank you
I really long for geniune human connections like these guys have. I'm surprised how many pure hearts there are in a submarine, I never could have imagined. I'd like to believe this kind of love and respect is still possible among all of us.
This is so well shot, so true to the facts. I would love to meet all these guys... Where are they now...
Those of us who are still alive are living our lives and doing what ordinary folks do. We have our memories, our uniform insignias, the medals, the knicknacks we gathered in a drawer and very few people know who we were or what we did. Still go to reunions and once a month lunches with other submariners and tell sea stories. We are older, grayer but still kicking.
Why in medieval times men followed a St. Francis: Seeking complete trust in a worthy leader.