World of Warships- Its Time For This Outdated Premium Ship To Get Buffed (Błyskawica)
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- Hello guys, today we go over the Tier VII Premium Polish Destroyer Błyskawica, enjoy!
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Remember the Blyska from the old golden days of wows, when it was one of the best ships in the game, based on her long range and the capability to stealth fire 🔥 that was just ridiculous in those times
And even back then her AA wasn't anything to write home about despite her description and feats IRL.
Oh yeah I remember running away from clear sea, that's spamming shells at my 20kt Colorado.
Stealth fire was stupid, there is no need to return that kind of no-counterplay bs to any ship in the game, let alone Blyska that's a perfectly alright DD by itself.
Stealth fire fire rocks!
...stealth fire was as much BS as Russian Radar, Subs, CV's and Superships are now.
Remember days for 152mm ATF, days when Murmansk could fire at 21km range
Thanks to World of Warships and I discovered quite an odd link to ORP Błyskawica
In May 1942 t was instrumental in the defence of the town Cowes (yes, like Cows) on the Isle of Wight which is just south of (old) Hampshire in England. Which also was very close to the shipyards J. Samuel White where she was built.
When I was a kid living near Southampon in England we used to sail over to Cowes from Calshot which has old WW2 hangers turned into indoor activity centres where I spent far too much of my childhood.
I wrote this up a few years ago to summarise the story.
The ORP Błyskawica was commissioned by the Polish Navy in 1934 from J. Samuel White, a British shipyard based at Cowes at the Isle of Wight.
It was (along with it's sister ship "Grom"), at the time one of the, if not the biggest, fastest and most potently armed destroyers in the world.
As the writing on the wall in the lead up to WW2, despite all the hopeful appeasement, the Polish Navy were faced with a tough choice.
Leave their most modern warships to defend the homeland... against overwhelming odds, or withdraw to the safety of allied nations, where they could survive, escape capture and be useful in the long war to come.
They finally choose the later and on 30th August 1939, two days before the invasion of Poland; Błyskawica, Grom and Baltic Sea. (The Peking Plan)
They were spotted by the Kriegsmarine Cruiser Königsberg (yes, the Tier 5 German cruiser in WoWS) but since hostilities hadn't begun no conflict occurred and they made it to Britain just before their homeland was attacked.
As history tells, sadly France and Britain were ill prepared to effectively aid the valiant defenders of Poland, who did a stunning job of stalling a far superior army (as I listen to Sabaton's 40:1).
Błyskawica then teamed up with the Royal Navy in the Norwegian Campaign (which saw her sister Grom sunk by Lufftwaffe bombers)
Błyskawica then provided anti-aircraft covering fire during Dunkirk and towed the damaged British destroyer Greyhound, carrying some 1,000 allied troops, back to Dover. She also escorted the French destroyer Cyclone, badly damaged in a torpedo attack, into Dover.
Błyskawica returned to Cowes multiple times for repairs, maintenance and upgrades during the war and this proved very, very fortunate for the town in May 1942.
Despite providing a shipyard, Cowes had minimal anti aircraft defences and probably relied upon being overlooked in favour of juicer targets of nearby Southampton and Portsmouth.
Captain Wojciech Francki had noticed this, and requested ammunition from Portsmouth so the Błyskawica could act as an AA platform.
This request was denied by the Admiralty, who saw little benefit in arming a destroyer in dock.
... This however didn't stop Captain Francki who *somehow* acquiring ammunition from Portsmouth, contrary to his superior’s orders.
Alongside scouting by reconnaissance aircraft a Luftwaffe probing strike occurred on 28th April 1942, six aircraft made a hit-and run sortie on Cowes, and nearly sank ORP Blyskawica.
On the night of the 4th May 1942 the Luftwaffe came to Cowes, estimated to be 160ish bombers, in two sorties.
Rather then a barely defended seaside town, they found a 2000 ton steel sentinel spewing 4 inch flak shells into the heavens.
This forced the bombers to fly to maximum altitude to evade the AA fire and greatly limited their accuracy, which being a night-time raid was pretty pot luck as it was.
And as every good WoWS destroyer captain does, the Błyskawica activated it’s smoke generators, shrouding itself and the town, making night-time bombing precision even more difficult.
Her guns fired so continually that they apparently glowed red hot, and had buckets of water thrown over them, some of the gunners received burn scars for the rest of their lives. Extra ammunition was hastily ferried from Portsmouth
The 160 bombers inflicted a hellva lot of damage, but the damage and casualties are considered to have been greatly mitigated by the actions of Captain Francki and the Błyskawica’s crew.
This is a story I’ve only learnt relatively recently.
But throughout my childhood living near Southampton, my childhood included visits to the Isle of Wight and sailing across to Cowes.
And it’s odd to thing that 50 years before people were fighting and dying to protect it.
… And Cowes did not forget either, there was a memorial to the bravery of it’s crew apparently a fair number of Polish settled in Cowes and nearby in it’s aftermath. Cowes has hosted visits by Polish naval vessels on behalf of Błyskawica for the 70th, 75th and 80's anniversary.
onthewight.com/80th-anniversary-of-defence-of-cowes-and-east-cowes-by-polish-destroyer-orp-blyskawica-commemorated/
So QQ WG Buff her!
Thank you for telling this story. I learned alot about the Błyskawica's history. I knew about her run to Great Britain, but not of her actions in the war. Best regards, Armored_Roman
Thank you for the history lesson! Such brave men who fought valiantly! It’s amazing that the Blys didn’t get sunk.
Blys is the most powerful T7 DD in the game. Kind of weird the only other T7 you could mention that you think is better is the Italian DD line with their high detection and awful gun range. Blys's guns are by far the best, with good balistics as you mentioned. Even though Mahan has better reload, the number of guns on Blys makes up for that so it has the same DPM.
The sad thing is, Lenningrad has pretty much the same play style but does everything better. (Guess who doesn't like Polish)
Blys is still one of my most played ship, hope wg would give her some buffs
While you're right, Blys doesn't need much. Maybe a slight detect reduction to 6.2 or 6.3km. It wouldn't take much to buff her to OP status.
yeah slight buff to concealment and maybe slight buff to turret turn time would do amazing for her. ideally she would get those + pan euroepan torpedo option. Change faster, longer rage torpedoes with less damage. Buuuut this is WarGaming...
Yeah lower the detect range and speed up the traverse... Maybe a bit more torp range
Ah the Bliss, the stealth firing thing was really fun way back when. And yes she could really use some love. The Sims also could but she still has her baked in XP bonus that is really handy for keeping your star should rank battles between tier 7. I think the biggest ship class that needs above after the Bliss is the Atlanta and Flint. And it's just a range buff because we used to be able to extend the rain to those guns and now we can. If the range would go back to what you can get it before the commander rework that would be awesome and not overpowered.
Though there are a lot of ships I'd like to see added, I also feel like wg should just take a break from adding new ships and focus on balancing already existing ships.
Błyskawica was one of my favorite DD's in the game. I still play her but not as much as in days past. She needs a good buff.
Blyska was my first premium ship buy, and my most played ship back in the day. Stealth firing was so much fun, and she was so versatile!
Basically, there are too many ships in game and as new mechanics get introduced, ships like this get left behind and forgotten by the devs.
Just one thing, one ONLY thing Blys could had have, and she will be a strong ship !! Give her the radar of the main tech line ! Just keep her stat like this now is ok, but with a radar, she will just dominance every single fight she's engage !! Even for a high tier opponent !
Błyskawica was the first premium I bought way back when I first started actually playing, sometime around 2018. And yeah, she hasn't aged well. I wouldn't mind her getting updated a bit. I'd really like her 50s refit in game, as long as her guns got some kind of improved performance to make up for just being 100mm.
HEY BUDDY!!! nothing gets buffed until they do something about my poor neglected Atlanta. I remember the days of AA terror and carriers actively avoiding me, ahh good ttimes.. Keep up the good work Sir love your work
I remember one ranked game, way back in the days of Stealthfiring, where i watched a Myoko and a Atlanta being hunted by a Blyska 🤣
Anything could help Blys, drop her rudder shift and turning circle would be nice, or a 1KM more range on her torps (hadn't thought abouth giving her Pan-Euro torps, but that would be nice too).
Blyska's torps are good in the right situation. I just played a match in her, got rushed while in smoke by 2 dds (a Shiratsuyu and a Gajdah Mada) and blind torp both of them lol
I never knew it in it's heyday, for me it was just an ok coal ship.
Look at it this way, in her prime there were two BBs of the tier. One goes 20kt and the other is spotted from the moon. And even in those conditions she had a very nasty no-counterplay stealth fire going on.
Being that more powerful against the MM today, I don't know what buffs would that be.
As a DD main and old player, it wasn't balanced back then. Shima from 2016 is bollocks ala submarines. Literally nobody was against introducing radars because of it. Can't use the old game as a measuring stick today.
I remember when i first got the Blyska for coal, I could have 150k damage games, was such a fun ship to play. Even though that wasn't all the way back, it was still a good bit ago.
Actually, still kinda is in all honesty.
And here I thought you were talking about California ;P
But yeah, Blys needs a helping hand too. There's quite a few ships that need a leg up, tbh.
Was going to buy this with coal, but I will get one of the tier 6's instead. Thanks for the heads-up 👍
As U possibly know new European tech tree branch of destroyers is being developed now. There surely be a premium destroyer related to it. And it can be Błyskawica 41 with different main guns of 102 mm playing in Akizuki style and this would be historicaly acurate as She was rearmed i the summer of 1941. I belive developers would rather like to introduce a new ship than get buffed old Błyska. And that is possible knowing that Błyska sistershiip ORP Grom will be in a new tech tree branch and has to differ from Błyska in a way...
The Blisk is a good DD for me. Yes, a possible rudder shift or torp buff would be awesome.
miss those stealth firing days in the Sims
Print Eugen needs a DPM buff! She’s been outclassed for years now!
I'd give it some more HP or a Euro heal to preserve its identity as kind of a clumsy, large, fast French-style DD.
Its hard to really imagine it being weak in any way, since i still regularly see players completely decide battles or tear down pretty much anything with it.
The "Kamikaze" needs a buff....Yeah that's the ticket!
The Blyska was my second premium ship. I got it from a super container and at that point, I was still new to the game
The result- I couldn't win in that ship at all and now there are much better ships out there
With Błyskiawica is the same problem as with ships balanced around dead eye (in her case stealth fire) - no one knows what to do with them. I think she should get a slight buff to detection and give her possibility to instal T7 PE torps.
I believe that Blyzka is still very strong and surprisingly easy to play
enemies don't regard you as a threat making you completely free to pick your targets however you like
I have like 4k pr in this ship, love it and it is super easy to boost your stats
Plus with the new pan EU line coming in she will be a very convenient trainer for you captains
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I was 1 mil away from having a 19 point captain in the Blysk, way back when it took 9,999,999 mil capt xp to go from 18 to 19. I haven't bought a ship from WG since they nerfed her.
I have hopes that the devs will give her some love with the new line of DDs coming
I have this ships and I really like it. Every time I play it, I always say to myself ¨I wish it had lower detection.¨ 8 km range on its torps is fine for T7. It would be great if WG buffed its detection down to 6.1 or 6.2.
Meh, many many many other aspects in this game need attention before Blysh really needs work. Still a fun and good destroyer to play, and only hurt because to the many many many other aspects that ruin this ship. Sure, she's not OP anymore, but still a fun T7.
Dear Sealord, in a new techline we are not getting "Gdynia" we are getting "Gdańsk" a tier X which is a neighbouring city to Gdynia.
Sims is my first premium ship
I love it
had some people play it in ops and it was good
If only the player base wouldn’t have lost there minds over weegee wanting to bump the gc up to tier 6 we could have seen some of the older premiums get buffed/nerfed but all chance of that is gone unless it’s a post flandre ship
Having haida at tier 7 with those stats I think it needs a buff speacialy to its concealment should be 5.8 or 5.9
Love the Blysk first prem I brought followed Kutuzov haha been playing for 7years
Either buff her concealment to be around 6.3 range with CE would help a lot in DD hunting. But for me personally i would love an AA buff as well to be on par with tech tree line so she can open water farming more comfortably. I think the relode is fine now, kinda like IJN DD with high alpha per salvo but not quite low DPM
Aa yes. It's AA consists of a guy shouting 'Kurwa' (dog in Polish) at the planes
@@agniray3235 'Kurwa' means bitch, prostitute. Dog is 'pies'.
@@gabrielkowalski3613 Oh my bad. I was reading a book about Wanda Rutkiewicz where they wrote dog as kurwa
@@agniray3235 probably because bitch is also a female dog, so it could be a translation error.
@@gabrielkowalski3613 suka is a female dog, which can also mean bitch
Funny, That is my favorite destroyer.
Stealth fire was absolutely broken and stupid, it's removal was a good change. I distinctly rmb being in the og Akizuki, before Kita and Haru were added, farming BBs from 10km away in open water. They can't spot me because the penalty was so low, I can spot them because their stealth was so bad, and with AFT there's no way they can get within the firing concealment range.
Reload buff or significant torp range buff would make this a good T7 again.
Interesting
Still great in ranked, needs a turret traverse buff.
My highest PR ship in the gane, should tell you something about this ship
Buffing Błyskawica concealment doesn't solve underlying issue of concealment gap created by Concealment upgrade. Remove that and suddenly a lot of tier 6-7 destroyers become "viable" or even fun to play.
Sadly this concealment gap, just like HE pen gap for CLs and lack of overmatch resistance for BBs is intentional, so players don't have too much fun playing midtiers.
"Needs a little love", as he does 108k.....
With only a 13 point captain....
You have sort of proved it's a strong and balanced ship.
Just gave her better dpm or concealment, 6,8 km in tier VII is ridiculous
Agreed. They buffed the turret angles at one point but it's not enough.
Blyskawicza is dealing with T9s a lot of the time now and it is outgunned and outspotted by almost all of its competition. Torps aren't exactly amazing either and the AA is bad (despite her historically being known for fighting off a Luftwaffe raid).
@@Joshua-fi4ji well sure if you compare her with t9s she does not perform as well, but you have to compere it with OTHER T7s, and blyska is very confortably sitting along side them, most of the time sitting in the top part when it comes to her gun performance and shells characteristics, where it loses on is concealment by 0.2-0.3 km however that rarly if ever actauly matters, why? well because the servers are so bad that by the time the ship model renders in the game you are already inside the blyska view range, but that is indeed something she is worse at comperaed to others, however REMEMBER she is a t7 MEANING this thing WILL face T5, witch means that if you make it stronk enf to give t9s a run for there money IT WILL BE COMPLEATLY BUSTED in T7 vs T5
I have this ship, i like it, just needs faster reloading guns to be perfect for me
Would be really cool if we got a Błyskawica ‘41 or a Błyskawica ‘50
its pretty much almost each and every old ships , but especially DD cause DD by nature got no armor, no HP and no margin of error to play around , but especially for T6/7 that got to face T8/9 , CV ( double CV ) , 12KM Radar , and now SS and all the new gimmicks which their spec were never balanced to match nor to deal with
Hood is another week premium.
The only thing good it has going for it are turret angles and a lot of health.
It is really underwhelming as a bb at tier 7 even compared to other tier 7s.
Think I would take the Blyska over the Sims tho... Not that play either ship really but to have comfortable guns that will actually hit rather than float is beneficial
Why would you take BFT when you can take Fearless Brawler? (unless your saving 1 skill point for something) When you fire your guns 99% of the time your gonna get spotted anyway so may as well take advantage of the -10% reload rather then -5. Plus it gives you an extra Flak puff if this ship has any.
Tbf, the Blyska has a smokescreen, and you shouldn't be spotted while you're in there farming damage.
@@landochabod7 Fair enough, that said very likely to see Radar of some sort.
take both if you have a 21 point commander, esay build
@@landochabod7 blys used to be good at open water. Take demolition expert and aft and just light fires on everything. T7 MM used to put you top tier a lot too.
Ship definitely is in need of love now though.
@@landochabod7 You can play it like soviet gunboat, no CE and get AFT+Fearless brawler. with her speed and around 14km range you can reliably dodge most cruiser shell at her tier. but the existant of CV make it much harder to do so.
Blyska is great tbh, i think Z-44 needs buffs, this ship feels like t8 not t9
oolloooo :)
I like this ship, but I don't like trying to cap with it. It's good in Standard Battles.
I was hoping it was USN Texas.
We hated those when they came out because they were so broken.
Flint and Atlanta badly need a range buff
with those ballistics range buff is more trap than buff. You would need to decrease air drag value per shell if you add range. Hitting anything that moves outside BB 9 + KM is quite feat. Hitting anything past 11 KM outside stationary target with this air drag value would be pointless. I mean if you be able to hit 16 km mark (like with bft and aft) shell literally travelled 10+ seconds.
@@thejamppa with all of the 12km radars on game nowadays I started practicing hitting moving targets at max range. It takes time but I've gotten pretty good at it. French DD's are the hardest by far to hit
The ship that basically broke stealth fire.
Split is city in Croatia and ship is ex Yugoslavian
They should buff her AA rating too imo.
Agree. It used to be a good DD
"...she was pretty much ellipsed..." ? 🕳
Still do okay with it.
This ship always makes me laugh. Why? The patch that they nerfed her and also changed her gun reload so the single barrel gun wasn’t slightly faster then the double barreled guns. I got a super container with her. Never had her when she was the best but I like her.
the atago is getting a little long in the tooth to
Played her like a year ago and got my ass kicked. She was such a good boat when she was released but those were the good old days.
Don't agree on buffing. Had stealth fire, so what, it used to be broken and it was removed. That can't be a reason for buffing. There is a shit ton of ships on low-mid tier that need fixing because they're literally unplayable under certain MM conditions. This ship has great alpha, good DPM, a ton of HP and it can stealth torp. It pays with concealment. Very simple.
Bismarck is also quite shitty compared to what it was before all the powercreep and before the smoke fire changes. Back on release it was OP.
The problem in both cases is that perception of the ship has been skewed due to the badly implemented mechanics. Once a mechanic was globally reworked the ships fell into more natural position. For instance Zao was always bound to be an opportunistic HE striker, but due to badly implemented stealth fire it was used for shadowing BBs at 14km and having them on constant fires because of no counterplay. However today noone mentions that Zao should be buffed because it used to be the most situationally OP cruiser in the game, people want buffs because Zao underperforms in the primary cruiser role compared to others. Does Blyska underperform? I don't think so.
"a ton of HP" Above-average HP. Her HP is artificially nerfed compared to her displacement.
"good DPM" Slightly above-average DPM.
"stealth torp" Wow what an amazing feature! Only 17/19 destroyers at Tier 7 can do that!
Dude you got 5 fires which is unheard of for me but still... What is your fire chance as compared to "what you got? Yeah... WoW is ripping us off on that one. Oland: I usually only get about 1 to 1.5% fires and I only shoot HE. Some-ting wong here!!!!! I've literally had 133 shell hits with NO FIRES, yep got "one" @ 134. This is all to typical for me!
The first step would be to buff her health pool. She displaces nearly 3 400t yet only has 15 500HP. For example the Maass has 17 500HP while displacing 100t less.
Wargaming follows the rule of "displacement = HP" most of the time and this exception should be changed.
No idea from were you took those 3400t of blyskawica. She is more like
1,975 tons standard
2,183 tons normal
In comparison to Maass she has almost same size and 1 m less draft
@@Erandon15 I took these stats from shiptool*st which datamines WoWS itself. In hindsight I probably should've crosschecked with real life.
Noticed a pattern when you keep saying " with the way Match Making these days " - yeah T6 got to see T8 often and T7 got to see T9 often and T8 got to see T10 often , and one got to ask why .. the disparity this game present to mid tier and low tier is putting them up just as food for the higher tiers and no one like to play just food for others , and so long this game force this +/- 2 MM and refuse to limit the super-tiered population in any team this kind of negative aspect of reception will simply drive players from not playing these handicapped tiers and further worsen the meta
I bought this ship recently just because i'm polish. Sadly not the best boat in the game :(
Nah... everything else needs a nerf.
Especially, subs, CV's and Superships
Wiz Khalifa hee hee hoo hoo
Your descriptive word “sad” can be used for most changes or additions WG makes in this game. How un fun can they make it.
Balancing ships so they don’t steamroll lower tiers but remain competitive when they’re up-tiered with the current +2/-2 matchmaking is nigh unto impossible. Everybody would be happier if they switched it to +1/-1 and it would be easier for the devs as well. Of course, this is too little, too late because this game is dying… well, it’s arguably being actively killed.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Maybe another game developer will learn from WG’s how NOT to guide.
blyska is one of the best t7 dds in the game, why would she need a buff?
the fuck you on about man??
Simple skill issue
Dude all of the Pan Euro DDs need buffs. Bly was ruined long ago. What is it famous for? It's been given credit for literally saving a town with it's AA so... where is it????? not here!
Skane AA used to be decent now it's total trash, Oland AA used to be "very good" now it's only "just decent". Pan Euro was given strong AA because they're slow and have no smoke so now with submarines what do they do? they gave Pan Euro DDs extremely weak depth charges, I've literally "sat "on" a sub" with Oland and hit him with 14 depth charges and only removed about 1/2 of his health! Not fair!!! Pan Euro guns used to be "good" now they're outmatched by nearly every other DD and certainly the newer ones "kick her ass" without remorse! Sure the torps are fast and long but they've always been weak and now we get ships with massive torp damage reductions, WTF? Pan Euro DDs have taken an unfair brunt of the games' advances. Radar has gotten thick, we now have Black with smoke and stealth radar, Atlanta, Edgar, and other cruisers with brrt guns. Pan Euros were given strong AA so that they weren't spotted by aircraft "for too long" so what of submarines, Radar, 6k hydro and Brrt guns even on other DDs? I'm one of only a few Pan Euro players these days... gee I wonder why? [BB68]Dutch_Tiger
P.S. 2,200+ games in Oland which remains my favorite ship to play but it's getting more and more difficult as time passes!!!!! (That's the 3rd most Oland plays in the entire N/A server)
got her when she came out, never get to play her. She is just so weak.
No it's time for WG to Nerf all the OP ships they keep putting out. Oh wait, they can never do that as they sold the dang things so the EU laws prevent them from nerfing them. Well I guess it's time to buff up every other dang ship. Oh wait, that destroys the value of what the people purchased so once more the EU laws prevent them from doing that. So basically the game is screwed into an every slowing increasing OP process where new ships get stronger and stronger if they are sold until the whole game breaks, thanks to stupid EU laws.