I like the color coding of the jacks and cables. That is what I did on mine, but I used punch down RJ-45 jacks instead of pass through jacks. This eliminates one more failure point. I also did the patch panels above and below. You should also consider putting on small zip ties around the Ethernet cables and attach them to the strain relief bar behind the patch panels.
I have a similar setup with the Enterprise POE24 and I was able to snag a Unifi UCI. The only difference is I ran everything through the Agger, and ran a 20G LAG to the Switch.
I hate crimping cables, especially the thicker Cat 6A. I had the electrician do that for me while adding Ethernet to a build in an ADU. I still checked though to make sure it was running at the right speeds. Those slim cables are nice! I need to get some to clean up my small 8 port patch panel at home.
I am looking at adding an aggregation switch also. I was under the impression you are supposed to run from your UDM Pro into the aggregation switch with 10G. Then from your aggregation switch to all of your other switches. It looked like you went from your UDM Pro to your 24 port switch and then into the aggregation switch. I may be wrong but wanted to mention it.
For my home, and most small business, it wont matter. There is plenty of switching capacity in the Pro switch and I am only really using it between my office and my synology. If I had 2 or 3 switches it would help. This is all way overkill for my needs anyway lol.
@@JerrySchulze understand my network is absolutely overkill for my needs also, but I don't play golf, so. LOL. Have a good one and appreciate the reply
Nice! I have a similar setup, but no aggregation. UDM Pro 10 GbE to 10 GbE switch, computer to the UDM Pro 10 GbE WAN (but port changed to LAN mode in the controller), Synology to the other 10 GbE switch port
@@JerrySchulze 100% I'm most likely going to have just 1 3u. But in a smaller rack which is half way up a narrow closet this will make mounting something into a rack soooo easy. Right now it's trying to hold something in place while screwing things in.... This can hold the weight making life soo easy
I would have had the 10 gig port on the UDM-Pro go directly into the Aggregation Switch and then connected the 24 Port switch to the Aggregation Switch, definitely not essential just a slightly more standard way of doing it.
What a difference that made! Well done, Jerry! Question for you... Is there any particular reason you're going from your aggregation switch --> 24-port switch --> UDM Pro instead of 24-port switch --> aggregation --> UDM Pro? that way your aggregation switch is, well, aggregating all other switches and feeding that into your firewall?
Thanks for watching. Just because it doesn’t matter in my small home network or most small businesses. I really just wanted to keep using 10g for my office and symbology and step up from the 2x 1g uplinks. For that, I needed more ports but wanted rack mount otherwise the flex 10g would have been fine.
I used to love Ubiquiti, but the access point stinks. They start out fine, then just get bogged down for some reason. I don't even have a lot of Wi-Fi devices in my environment. all the other gear is awesome though. all though I did have an 8 port poe switch just up and die for no reason after about 3 weeks.
I order millions of dollars of equipment for my day job and even the big boys like Cisco have hardware issues. Crap shoot no matter what you buy these days.
@@JerrySchulze Ok, for the computers and the Nas is "fine" as there is no other option, at least for the uplinks will have much less heat, power consumption and latency.
I think you made two "mistakes". (Big word, you not doing it that bad). You should have gone with (toolless) Keystones with connecting the cables directly to the back of the Keystone, instead of couplers with RJ45's. You got another point where contacts van fail, and they are easyer to put on then a RJ45. And I think that you should do, from top to bottom: UDM > Agg > and then to all devices from there. I also think that you should have put it in that way, physically. And get the SFP+ card for in the back of that Synology and use a DAC between the Agg and the Synology. That works great (have done it at two customers like that, works great).
you need to redo your patch panel cabliong the wires should never be exposed like here 3:29 you should always have alest 1 4th of inch orless in the rj45 head to protect the wires as well as prevent them fromcausing cross talk you did not make your cuts as short as you should have
If I could make a suggestion, first off you had a routing loop in the pre-work by wiring out two ports to two ports on the switch (P1/2). While they could be different vlan's it was accomplishing nothing of any value. The reason is that the way the UDM works, those 8 ports are a switch, with a 9th(phantom) port on the motherboard you don't have access to that runs to the CPU. That phantom port is only link to the rest of the network. So the total bandwidth of those 8 ports maxes out at 1Gbps leaving that 8 port switch. That is the reason that you couldn't LAG any of those 8 ports together as they are just a layer 2 stand alone switch. There are 4 ports that tie to the CPU, port 9/10/11 and the one hidden port (from the 1-8 ports). In the final layout, I would like to suggest a change for increase performance. * Take the 10G LAN port (11) from the UDM directly to the 8 port Agg switch and make sure that is set to VLAN 1 (which is all vlans trunking port). Then take port 25 SFP+ port to the 8 port agg swtich again on VLAN 1 as a trunk port. This will allow you to actually LAG together by taking port 26 there as well. So in this example you can Port 25/26 to port 1/2 of the 8 port agg and then port 11 from UDM to port 8 lets say. Then you can use all other ports for specific devices on the agg switch. What this will do is allow a 20Gbps LAG from to 8 port agg switch and any 10G devices to go faster. You could also move the layer 3 routing of the VLANs to the 24 port switch off the UDM. This will allow faster line rate devices not to have to go back to the UDM for routing and that traffic would stop in the 24 port switch. Don't do the intermediate hop from 8 port to 24 port to UDM. Make the aggregation switch actually aggregate all the traffic. It will help optimize the network. I normally take all the 10G ports from each switch and LAG them together for either a 20G port or 40G port to the aggregation switch. With the pro aggregation switch it has Layer 3 ability vs the only layer 2 of the 8 port so all the routing can be offloaded there and keeps that routing off the UDM all together. Like in your final config I don't use any of the ports on the UDM's either, one reason is that Ubiquity has really reduced the overall EMP/ESD capabilities of the UDM. The older switches were rated much higher than the newer series, and way more than the UDM's. With lightning and long cable runs the induced voltage can be high. I have had the switches panic and restart the power supplies for POE because of close by lightning. It really stinks because of course all the cameras reboot as well, so you never see anything of the actual strike except a bright flash and then no signal while the switch reboots. Otherwise great job. Looks much better and also your equipment will love you better because it will run cooler as well with the gaps (patchpanels) between them. 🤠👍
Very nice, Jerry. I find it satisfying to watch these types of videos. There’s no greater feeling than building your own home network.
Thanks for checking it out.
This is a good setup if I do say so myself. The color coding was a niche touch for knowing what was in the rack. Good job.
Well thank you!
I like the color coding of the jacks and cables. That is what I did on mine, but I used punch down RJ-45 jacks instead of pass through jacks. This eliminates one more failure point. I also did the patch panels above and below. You should also consider putting on small zip ties around the Ethernet cables and attach them to the strain relief bar behind the patch panels.
I have a similar setup with the Enterprise POE24 and I was able to snag a Unifi UCI. The only difference is I ran everything through the Agger, and ran a 20G LAG to the Switch.
I hate crimping cables, especially the thicker Cat 6A. I had the electrician do that for me while adding Ethernet to a build in an ADU. I still checked though to make sure it was running at the right speeds.
Those slim cables are nice! I need to get some to clean up my small 8 port patch panel at home.
Those ethernet cables are not crimped correctly., the blue jacket has to be inside the rj45 connector
Yep, I absolutely know that. I was just being lazy.
I cringed a little bit also, but at the end of the day they are in a protected place and will still function just fine.
I am looking at adding an aggregation switch also. I was under the impression you are supposed to run from your UDM Pro into the aggregation switch with 10G. Then from your aggregation switch to all of your other switches. It looked like you went from your UDM Pro to your 24 port switch and then into the aggregation switch. I may be wrong but wanted to mention it.
For my home, and most small business, it wont matter. There is plenty of switching capacity in the Pro switch and I am only really using it between my office and my synology. If I had 2 or 3 switches it would help. This is all way overkill for my needs anyway lol.
@@JerrySchulze understand my network is absolutely overkill for my needs also, but I don't play golf, so. LOL. Have a good one and appreciate the reply
Nice! I have a similar setup, but no aggregation. UDM Pro 10 GbE to 10 GbE switch, computer to the UDM Pro 10 GbE WAN (but port changed to LAN mode in the controller), Synology to the other 10 GbE switch port
@Jerry: First nice job, but your answer about bobby is not fully true. The way bobby would make it is better because off backplain L3 switching.
I like the setup! I am also looking forward to seeing the ultra line of products. More compact, same delivery hopefully from UniFi.
Do you do a budget video on building a home server rack? Then explain how each one works with each other
Looks clean. Unifi cable modem is back in stock btw
Loved this video. I guess the dev mounts won't work for 3u stuff. It's a shame they don't do a mix bag..
Yep, or even 2u. They are really nice for 1u, though.
@@JerrySchulze 100% I'm most likely going to have just 1 3u. But in a smaller rack which is half way up a narrow closet this will make mounting something into a rack soooo easy. Right now it's trying to hold something in place while screwing things in.... This can hold the weight making life soo easy
I would have had the 10 gig port on the UDM-Pro go directly into the Aggregation Switch and then connected the 24 Port switch to the Aggregation Switch, definitely not essential just a slightly more standard way of doing it.
I didnt because my little amount of traffic doesn't matter, BUT, I did re-work the whole thing again and did change that config.
What a difference that made! Well done, Jerry! Question for you... Is there any particular reason you're going from your aggregation switch --> 24-port switch --> UDM Pro instead of 24-port switch --> aggregation --> UDM Pro? that way your aggregation switch is, well, aggregating all other switches and feeding that into your firewall?
Thanks for watching. Just because it doesn’t matter in my small home network or most small businesses. I really just wanted to keep using 10g for my office and symbology and step up from the 2x 1g uplinks. For that, I needed more ports but wanted rack mount otherwise the flex 10g would have been fine.
But I did pick up a UniFi cable modem so maybe I will make the change and move it above the top patch panel.
Also, looks evenly spaced like this, lol. I’ll never stop messing with it.
Curious about what security cameras you use.
I used to love Ubiquiti, but the access point stinks. They start out fine, then just get bogged down for some reason. I don't even have a lot of Wi-Fi devices in my environment. all the other gear is awesome though. all though I did have an 8 port poe switch just up and die for no reason after about 3 weeks.
I order millions of dollars of equipment for my day job and even the big boys like Cisco have hardware issues. Crap shoot no matter what you buy these days.
Gosh, you are using 10GB adapters for the Uplinks !? :) , please put some DAC cables there, much less heat and latency.
I have Dac between UniFi devices now. Have to use baset to office and synology.
@@JerrySchulze Ok, for the computers and the Nas is "fine" as there is no other option, at least for the uplinks will have much less heat, power consumption and latency.
@JerrySchulze this video has me reminiscing about working in the WOC.
Not ideal in the closet but never the less great setup. :)
I think you made two "mistakes". (Big word, you not doing it that bad). You should have gone with (toolless) Keystones with connecting the cables directly to the back of the Keystone, instead of couplers with RJ45's. You got another point where contacts van fail, and they are easyer to put on then a RJ45.
And I think that you should do, from top to bottom:
UDM > Agg > and then to all devices from there. I also think that you should have put it in that way, physically. And get the SFP+ card for in the back of that Synology and use a DAC between the Agg and the Synology. That works great (have done it at two customers like that, works great).
Yes, I originally did switch first because I am not pushing anywhere near the max of the switch. I have since rearranged to UCI>udm>agg>pp>sw>pp.
Looks nice ! If you add a Unifi Modem, you wont have enough rack spaces :p
Yep, I just got the modem and ordered a 10u rack
What is the name of the software you are using to draw network diagram?
draw.io
you need to redo your patch panel cabliong the wires should never be exposed like here 3:29 you should always have alest 1 4th of inch orless in the rj45 head to protect the wires as well as prevent them fromcausing cross talk you did not make your cuts as short as you should have
Yep, I was being lazy and in a hurry.
If I could make a suggestion, first off you had a routing loop in the pre-work by wiring out two ports to two ports on the switch (P1/2). While they could be different vlan's it was accomplishing nothing of any value. The reason is that the way the UDM works, those 8 ports are a switch, with a 9th(phantom) port on the motherboard you don't have access to that runs to the CPU. That phantom port is only link to the rest of the network. So the total bandwidth of those 8 ports maxes out at 1Gbps leaving that 8 port switch. That is the reason that you couldn't LAG any of those 8 ports together as they are just a layer 2 stand alone switch. There are 4 ports that tie to the CPU, port 9/10/11 and the one hidden port (from the 1-8 ports).
In the final layout, I would like to suggest a change for increase performance.
* Take the 10G LAN port (11) from the UDM directly to the 8 port Agg switch and make sure that is set to VLAN 1 (which is all vlans trunking port). Then take port 25 SFP+ port to the 8 port agg swtich again on VLAN 1 as a trunk port. This will allow you to actually LAG together by taking port 26 there as well. So in this example you can Port 25/26 to port 1/2 of the 8 port agg and then port 11 from UDM to port 8 lets say. Then you can use all other ports for specific devices on the agg switch. What this will do is allow a 20Gbps LAG from to 8 port agg switch and any 10G devices to go faster. You could also move the layer 3 routing of the VLANs to the 24 port switch off the UDM. This will allow faster line rate devices not to have to go back to the UDM for routing and that traffic would stop in the 24 port switch.
Don't do the intermediate hop from 8 port to 24 port to UDM. Make the aggregation switch actually aggregate all the traffic. It will help optimize the network. I normally take all the 10G ports from each switch and LAG them together for either a 20G port or 40G port to the aggregation switch. With the pro aggregation switch it has Layer 3 ability vs the only layer 2 of the 8 port so all the routing can be offloaded there and keeps that routing off the UDM all together.
Like in your final config I don't use any of the ports on the UDM's either, one reason is that Ubiquity has really reduced the overall EMP/ESD capabilities of the UDM. The older switches were rated much higher than the newer series, and way more than the UDM's. With lightning and long cable runs the induced voltage can be high. I have had the switches panic and restart the power supplies for POE because of close by lightning. It really stinks because of course all the cameras reboot as well, so you never see anything of the actual strike except a bright flash and then no signal while the switch reboots.
Otherwise great job. Looks much better and also your equipment will love you better because it will run cooler as well with the gaps (patchpanels) between them. 🤠👍
when it comes to networking, you can't be lazy. I learned that years ago the hard way or it will bite you in the butt later.
I agree. Been my real job for nearly 20 years and will fix it when I get my new rack. Thanks for looking out for me.