hachiman's sacrifice | Oregairu Season 1 Episode 12 Reaction!
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the drama 😳😳😳
but the real "drama" is on season 2, and its gonna be good
Sagami really deserved that from hikigaya , the amount of issues she created for them was not shown in anime (cut off) . And as always hayama played the good guy which hikigaya expected .
Please don't skip the ova
Hachiman is such an S tier character. One of my fav characters ever. Let him cook
He definitely cooked
I'm pretty sure like a major theme of the show is that he should let other people cook for him sometimes
@@brianchen1302 shh just let us have fun
I love the rooftop scene because it really shows how polar opposite Hayama and Hachiman are. Let me explain:
Hayama's method is caring and kind, but it isn't effective in making Sagami feel better by saying it's not her fault but because Sagami feels useless and unwanted in the committee, *making her not wanting to do the closing ceremony.*
While Hachiman's method is dirty and harsh, but effective, he plays tricks on Sagami making her feel more guilty, seeing her true intention by telling her she is like him, a low and selfish person (but she really is XD), to trick her into not wanting to be like Hachiman and *making her decide fast to prove she is better than him by doing the closing ceremony.*
*THAT'S A CLEVER WAY OF GASLIGHTING A GUILTY BAD PERSON.*
While they are polar opposites in their methods, I think that Hachiman and Hayama actually kind of struggle from the same thing. Hachiman is sacrificing himself for others and plays the "bad guy" because he's unable to play the good guy or people make him out to be that, and Hayama is so popular that even if he does something selfish or wrong, people will not punish him which could make him feel guilty for his actions. He may also be unable to tell people what they need to hear because people expect him to be the good guy.
@@murasame1450 bro 8man is far better character than hayama
@@domainexpansion1775 I never argued about that. I just said that they are more things in common that what someone might believe.
@@domainexpansion1775 No one said hayama is better than hachiman, tf are you on about
@@domainexpansion1775 who are you arguing with? nobody said Hayama was better
Whats more sad about this is Hachiman said many times that people keep on giving him their work but NO ONE has thought to help him at all. All of them are more focused on helping Yukino.
Hayama is so kind = Hayama cannot make solutions because he cannot tell people what they need to hear to actually induce change. He's so pro status quo that he'll let a situation go FUBAR if that's what it takes to maintain his social standing and prestige. He had all the social capital he ever needed to coax Sagami into doing her job, but he didn't. That's basically Hayama in a nutshell.
True
But u know i cant bring myself to hate him
He is a nice guy who is actually not nice but just taught to be nice
And his social standing doesn't allow him to be harsh to them
Tho i bet he can be harsh if sagami was really close (he will try to do it if it can do them better and thinks of it as worth risking his image )
So in nutshell: he is a nice guy who cares abt those close to him and for others he just pretend to be nice
heh basically he has a fake identity of being this perfect kind handsome guy . while hes just a normal guy like others or rather he wants to be normal be he cant .
Hayama when a girl got real talked: 🤬
Hayama when Hachiman is being made fun of and being treated shitty by his friend group: ☺😊
You guys noticed how this Hayama gets so hella mad as hell when it's a girl who's getting what they deserves but when it's Hachiman who's being looked down on and being made fun of by his friend group he looks like he doesn't care at all and doesn't give a sh*t lololol
@@jakeguillero9804I still don't get it how the creator of the vid said hayama is her fav when he's arguably the worst charchter in the show
@@krepsoo to be fair, it's the first season and it's really hard to see subtleties of some characters in first watch.
I think you're being a bit too harsh on Hayama. I don't exactly remember if this was properly explained in the anime but in the light novels, Hayama knew Hachiman was right. But instead of telling people the harsh truth and risk being seen as the bad guy, Hayama prefers to act like a nice person. Hayama respects Hachiman a lot although the two disagree regarding their methods. This is best shown in season 2 when Hayama defends Hachiman from two girls who are bullying him. He trash talks them but later admits he felt horrible doing so and wishes to never do something like that again.
Even in this moment, Hayama was on Hachiman's side. He didn't stop Hachiman from talking to safe Sagami's feelings, he did it because Hachiman was socially digging his own grave and Hayama wanted to prevent that. The proof presents itself shortly after when Hayama asks Hachiman why he does things this way. He doesn't look angry or disgusted at Hachiman for hurting Sagami, he looks sad because he keeps on seeing Hachiman hurting himself with his methods.
@@alpha-samaI feel like if that was really what Hayama is thinking and feeling then his actions should match that, prior to this he kept smiling whenever his friend talked sh*t about Hachiman and sometimes he would even add comments to his friend's weird remarks about Hachiman similar to 9:02 If it was another person Hayama would say "He probably have reasons why he did that" but he's a bit different toward Hachiman for some reason. Honestly, it might just be him subconsciously thinking that his "good image" and his friend's remarks weigh more than Hachiman's reputation which is understandable since they weren't friends to begin with. In season 2, he also knows Hachiman wouldn't mind sacrificing his reputation but he still asks him to save his petty and shallow friend group.
There's no point in me liking and understanding Hayama since I really dislike people who have no spine to stand up for someone who is being misunderstood and being unnecessarily bullied. He honestly reminds me of Miki Kawai from Silent Voice although he has more depth.
What Hachiman said to Sagami is the bitter truth about her. But people don't want to hear truth, everyone wants a sugarcoated lie. But sugarcoated lies only spoils you to the core. A truth can be bitter and hurtful but still it can force you to change and improve yourself. Hachiman chose the "Truth" strategy where whole world is addicted of hearing lies.
Some people can really handle the truth. But now the question is, do you believe it?
I stopped believing unless I was involved in something I didn't know about. It better be the real one or I'll just not waste time
If the truth is cruel then lies must be kind -- the goat himself said that
I love that it only takes the first season to prove that the characters are some of the most complex and interesting in anime. Hachiman is intelligent and perspective, but his low self-esteem and pessimistic vision of those around him lead him to act distant while in essence he is a good boy who wants to help people, only his way of doing it is sacrificing himself since he doesnt see himself as someone who deserves affection or support.
Yuki is also intelligent, but with the drive and determination to want to change the world. But at the same time has an almost idealistic vision of herself and those around her, the standards set by her family make her believe that if she is not the "best" version of herself she will not achieve anything in life, but at the same time she has created walls with her pride that doesnt allow her to accept that it is okay to receive help, especially from the people who love you.
Yui seems the most emotionally and socially adapted of the three, she knows how to identify what others feel and what she herself wants from the people around her, but at the same time she is a people pleaser,
Even though she knows what she wants for herself, she is not willing to fully act on that feeling in order for her friends not to suffer or for the "peaceful" space she has created to change drastically.
Each one has qualities that, when taken to the extreme by their insecurities, can turn into their worst defects. God, I'm happy that you've reached the next two seasons because the journey that's coming is wild
It's so low key that nobody mentions it, but after the school festival is over and Hachiman and Yukino are back in the club room, they both turn and _finally_ face each other. Huge. No longer looking away, no longer avoiding eye contact, the face each other and talk _to_ each other - and both look happy. They don't need an after-party. Their fireworks are going. off. right. here.
This show's greatness is how those two are such true human beings - betraying their inner state through tiny acts like this that if you're not paying careful attention, you'll miss. Their dialog is so multi-level, layered with hidden meaning, it's like a rich flavor that must be savored and contemplated to get its full depth.
Can't wait for season 2!! It's much better than season 1 in my opinion. Love your reactions, keep it up!!
Hayama always gets looked over , He only stands up for people when it matters to him, and his way of doing things mostly sugaar coating and being goody two shoes which would only help for the small instances where as hachiman strikes at the root of the problem
I disagree with Hachiman wanting to help Sagami, he did what he did to protect Yukino's hard work. He said it himself that he could have gone about it in a simpler and nicer way, but he couldn't bring himself to do it because of how much of an asshole Sagami is. She wanted all of the clout with none of the responsibility and Hachiman couldn't let her off the hook.
Im glad you like Yukino... She's such an insanely interesting character, you will get to see more aspects of her relationships in the following seasons and her path in life.
Hachiman is the real man here. He directly told the pure truth. No sugarcoating. And took all the responsibility for that. This is a very adult-like decision
I agree with your conclusion about Hachiman at the end. He just doesn't realized it yet.
But I just want to share my opinion about Hayama. Many liked him and thats fine. I know he seems like a good guy, but after watching this show for multiple times, I keep finding his selfishness more and more. And it shows more in the upcoming seasons.
In this festival arc, you can tell that he only volunteer just for Yukino and for her alone. He doesn't plan to help anybody.
In this episode, when he heard they need extra time, he asked Miura to sing again, even though she doesnt want to. But bcoz he knows Miura cant say no to him so he keep on insisting.
In Sagami part, I know Hachiman went too far to his speech to her, but she needs to hear it. But I think what Hayama did to Hachiman is too much too and its weird. Why would he do that? Bcoz he wants to be seen as the one who helped Yukinon the most.
I know this is not that convincing alone but if you combined this to what he did in Season 2, you guys can see how selfish he is
I don't know, I don't see it as "selfishness" per se. From my perspective the show makes Hayama clearly out to be the polar opposite of Hachiman which he mentions himself in one of his inner monologues if I remember correctly. While polar opposites, they kind of have the same weakness though. Hachiman actually doesn't want to be the "bad guy" but his method to do things is to sacrifice himself and take a hit for others. Hayama is the opposite in that he is so popular that people can't or don't want to see if he acts "selfishly" or does something wrong. They will just forgive him cause of his charisma and aura of popularity. And I think that he, like Hachiman, struggles with that, because on one side he doesn't seem to have the courage to tell people what they need to hear like Hachiman can, cause that would not fit in with the image that people put on him to be the nice and popular guy. That also seems to put a strain on his mentality cause if he feels bad about manipulating Miura for example but nobody ever reprimands him for it, then you will develop guilt for your actions.
@@murasame1450 Im trying to view your point and I really cant. I know you already finished this anime too and like I said there are others things that he do in other seasons thats shows his selfishness.
Like what he did with Tobe. He doesnt respects Tobe's feelings, his own friend, just bcoz he doesnt want his "comfortable" place to be disturbed by his friends feelings. And then he asked Hachiman for another sacrfice just coz he doesnt want be seen as the bad guy. And after all that, he said that he felt bad for asking that favor BUT HE NEVER SAID "SORRY" EVEN ONCE to him. I dont know about you but that just so rude and selfish.
You said people are just forcing him to that "image of perfect guy" but I say he also like it to be there thats why he never left there. He never did anything to get out of there
Also about the thing about Muira, he did not look like he felt guilty there. He is actually look happy bcoz he got to help Yukinon.
What's the point of talking about upcoming seasons if the author is currently watching the first one? I mean, you can say that you liked the season more than the first one, but why reveal the dynamics of the characters, etc. She will see it for herself soon.
@@KingFiercer_zip She said in one of her past videos that she is already at season 3 in real time. So this is not a spoiler
Hayama does whats expected of him thats his character as a whole. His attitude towards Yukinon is a product of guilt brought on by him not standing up for her when they were kids. This destroyed his relationship with her older sister who he was very close with. As for his view of Hachiman he both likes and hates him. Hachiman freely does what ever he wants and Hayama wishes he could be the same way. He went after Hachiman because he hates when he puts himself down that moment has nothing to do with Yukino. Hachiman is one of the few characters Hayama truly respects and because of this if Hachiman puts himself down its as though he drags Hayama down with him. Its the idea of having a worthy adversary.
Hayama is my favourite character
Said no one ever
People who likes Hayama character won't watch this type of show lol
I would say I admire Hachiman for saying it out loud ~ Honestly if a freeloader does nothing and later act like she was a victim just so others would say nice things, is not going to help her grow as a person ~ She'll just take people's kindness for granted and repeat the same mistake again
That's why Hachiman action on this episode help everyone on the show even Sagami herself. Truly a self sacrifice hero
When Hachiman decided to cook something, he'll cook hard 🥶
I really like your analysis and commentary on these characters! Keep it up
I love that your noticing the words being said and the how well written the characters are,
As someone who relates to hiki it gets when the world around you treats you a certain way you start to believe that that's where your supposed to be... on the bottom you Learn to survive like that and eventually its the only way you know how to live and operate daily. It becomes addicting feeling lonely, you feel comfortable. Sometimes it takes the people around you to show you that how you feel matters, and maybe the world isn't so cold after all
and now you know why hachiman really is THE DARK KNIGHT
Interesting. I’ve never liked Hayama. I always felt like he was fake nice. He’s just incapable of telling the truth when needed. But would constantly just be nice anyway. Not truely a bad thing but have some back bone and speak the truth.
Hachiman is hands down one of the best main character of all time. He is my favorite in the series and that is saying something considering I really like a lot of the characters in the series like Saki.
When I was in high school after I watched this anime and read the light novel I literally put a note over the quotes Hachiman said
tysm!!!! Can't wait for s2 This series is so underrated thankyou for the reactions!!
8:30 on Yuigahama birthday they go in karaoke (8man, Yui, Yukino, Totsuka, Zaimokudza, Komachi), it was cut out from LN.
Hachiman just spit the truth, and all the fake people like Hayama and his group start to attack him and then played the good ones. This was when Yukino developed stronger feelings for Hachiman , he just defended Yukino, saying the things she couldnt . Also, in season 2 when Hachiman sacrifices for Tobe , Hachiman was so wrong, because he sacrificed for people that werent worth it , and hurt Yui and Yukino.
Some inner thoughts omitted:
*Hayama, I'm glad that you're so cool and nice. Hayama Hayato needed to be pissed*
[The final performance of this long, long festival. Now everything will come to an end. Oh, I remembered I had historian duties. In that case, I'll be sure to etch this into my memory. I'm just a silent onlooker at the very back of a roaring crowd. But even so, I will never forget this sight]
I'm VERY excited for your season 2 reactions now, great stuff
7:56 literally she said ''hayama my favorite character right now''
can't wait to see whether you change your opinion on hayama or not.
the most interesting part is... seeing people of the light point of view regarding this show.
thanks for the video.
Right she thinks hayama see right through him😂
@@prakhartripathi6167 she is correct though.. Hayama understands Hachiman that's why Hayama hates him.. he feels inferior to Hachiman
@@prakhartripathi6167 it's okay... she just havent seen anything yet.....
still. love her reaction w.
she's a kind person indeed,
Hikitani-kun best boi 😂 I mean, he was in the right, but the way he does things in the way he do things in his own "World"...
reference to my fave Hachiman quote is from the school trip, "Question: The World will nit change, but you can change yourself. So then, How will you change? Answer: You become the God of a new World"
1:58
It's a "conductor", haha - they "conduct" an orchestra, band and other various kind of ensembles ☺
Hiratsuka sensei as always being the best supporting character of this series, and it gets even better later on, she is probably my favorite character aside the trifecta of Yui, Yuki and 8Man
Analysis pretty much on point. Good job
Being kind like hayama isn't a bad thing but therse time that kindess is unecessary, sometimes harsh reality must be rub to your face even if it means rubing someone's pride for it for that person to genuinely grow,if you keep being kind to others their head will get big
Another thing, People only connected to hachiman cause he was forced to join the club and had to help or else he wouldn't have people caring around him. And when the teacher's says the sentence that PEOPLE CLOSE TO YOU GET HURT when he does stuff like that is opposite of what hikigaya originally was. If she hadn't put him in the club no one would have got hurt except him and that is his base of self sabotaging
Actually Sagami needed a reality check.
I love this anime so much that I bought all the original novels. I think it is one of the best school light novels, although the relationships and psychological descriptions are very complex and difficult to follow.
Yukino: we cant be friends!
Also yukino: but we can be lovers! 😉
She saved herself from getting into the friendzone honestly :D
Playing a villain role never easy...
Ahhh season 2... Where the drama begins...
I think you didn't get in the first why Hachiman have to say those words.
Like what i have ever said before, It is just a beginning. Really waiting for incoming S2 & S3
Seen this series so many times already still don't really like Hayama's character. He's not the worst character of the series, but it just seems fake to always be nice to everyone and Hachiman can see it cause it's always around him that Hayama shows cracks in his armor.
True, Hayama always seems so two faced especially in the novels
I hope you watch Suzume either in theatres, or react to it when it comes out digitally. I watched it yesterday and I fucking cried, it was so fucking beautiful. Personally it's my favourite Shinkai film so far, and I think you would love it.
bro tore her a new one...
And that's exactly why I never liked Hayama because he sees Hikkigaya true self but still doesn't bother to help him genuinely and my last nail to the coffin was when he tries to use Hikkigaya to bridge a connection to Yukino just because he was nervous or couldn't get Yukino's attraction
to be honest what hachiman did shows a lot about the world, where people seeks for truth and justice yet want sugarcoated lies to cover thier faults sometimes. Anddd yess hachiman is kind of a jerk as im the same too, we do want to help people but the way we know is always the harsh one...(being less expressive as its embarrassing to be lovey dovey and then we cringe on it later).
another great reaction wait is this the finale?
Me encantan tus reacciones Alana, ojalá algún día veas "mahoutsukai no yome"(the magus ancient bride) es una anime que vale la pena, entre drama y fantasía, y ahora está en emisión la segunda temporada
OVAs are also a must watch!!!
the day hachiman become 8man!
Hayama "was" one of my worst character from this show. The way he just smacks hikki(to be seen as a prince infront of pick me girls) for helping a girl who doesnt deserves it but when Hikki was treated like shit by his so called friends and trashed talked he did ntg also with Yukino. He just spectated everything before but now he wants to be the "Good guy". Character like this are the worst. And i am a little mad at Alana for not understanding Hikki. But in later season he redeemed himself so i guess all's well that end's well
Season 2 lessgo
Hachiman just realistic character
Hayama just so unrealistic, he's so kind in every moment
Pissing off
Hayama is realistic too. people who lies and wanted status quo..
people like hachiman are rare who would sacrifice themselves for others.. most people are selfish and scared
i love Hachiman, and i dont like Hayama that much, he always wants to fix things kindly and ignoring the real problem, Hachiman is a real one
Going in season 2, guess who Fiona Frost is. Haha
I dont think he wants to be bottom of totsuka 🫣
Yes yes yes, sagami gets what she deserves.
waiting 2 season 🙏🙏🙏
8man besto batman
Season 2 Episode 2
The next episode is the OVA silly one that adds nothing to the plot. Anyway, this is how I define in one word each season of Oregairu: S1= Fun, S2= Drama, S3=Pain.
no next ep is ep 13 then theres ova for season 1
Day 71 of requesting Alana to watch plastic memories
First too
Also, screw Sagami man.
I dropped that anime, didn't feel it at all
@@akhutoYaro000 You do you man. I just want to see a reaction
@@skyoimiya hahahaha
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Hayama is basically a f-boy in my opinion
Thats interesting and dope that you like hiyama he's a guy with layers. Good character
My best character is sensei.
hayama is your favorite character? really? 😂
S2 and s3 probably gonna drain you out
I dont like what hayama did at all...he always wants to be the good cool guy and is always acting kind but kindness doesn't always help ppl. Sagami needed to hear the truth or she would always be the drama queen..in the long run I hope she realizes what hikki did for her
This is where I started hating Hayama
WALANA WISAKOOOOO
The best thing about this is that it shows that Hachiman would rather be correct than be happy. It's a very teenager thing to do and is absolutely not a healthy way to look at life.
idr the 1st season looking this bad.
Everyone in s2 and later on looked better, but I prefer Yukino's s1 design and tis a lot more similar to the LN
you like hayama? really?
What's wrong about liking genuinely kind and likeble guy?
@@sergeydvinskii3654 Have you... watched season 2 and 3?... Or read the novels?... 💀
@@elvisvasquez7553 I did, but she obviously didn't, that's what i've been pointing at.
@@sergeydvinskii3654 you don't need to go till season 2. Hayama pretty much shows his character early on. Oh well I guess she only can react superficially to whatever is in front of her. 🤷♂️ I lost interest and unsubscribed. Best wishes to her and all of you.
@@mkmfan3197 chill out man 😄
Hayama being you're favourite character is such an L take I'm sorry and because this show is a social commentary romcom hayama is good guy but more on the R/nice guy while hachiman is a good guy I might be overeating and I'm sorry if I sound rude
To be fair, Hayama's actions don't look that bad at first glance, plus the second season recontextualizes everything that came before.
It’ll be up to her to change her stance when she sees more of him. There’s nothing wrong about it in season 1
lol season 1 didn't really give too much insight into who hayama truly is, i thought he was a genuinely kind-hearted person at this point in the story¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you are overreacting, calm down it's not that serious