The police fulfilled their duty, bravely facing threats and sustaining injuries while protecting others, which is an unacceptable reality in our society. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport, where officers were assaulted, serve as a stark reminder of the dangers law enforcement personnel encounter daily. Those who perpetrated these attacks should have acted in accordance with their training, which emphasizes the importance of maintaining safety in public spaces. Instead, their actions not only endangered the lives of the officers but also compromised the safety of countless individuals who rely on law enforcement to uphold order and protect them. The fact that the individuals responsible for these assaults have evaded consequences is deeply troubling and highlights significant flaws in our justice system. It raises questions about accountability and the effectiveness of legal repercussions for those who choose to engage in violence against those sworn to protect the public. This lack of accountability sends a dangerous message that such behavior may go unpunished, potentially encouraging further acts of aggression against law enforcement. Moreover, it is crucial to recognize that law enforcement officers should not be held accountable for their responses when they are acting to ensure their own safety and that of the public. The nature of their work often places them in high-stress situations where split-second decisions must be made to protect themselves and others. To penalize them for these decisions undermines the very essence of their role and could deter individuals from pursuing careers in law enforcement, ultimately jeopardizing public safety. In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds offenders accountable but also supports and protects the brave men and women who dedicate their lives to ensuring our safety. Only then can we hope to restore faith in our institutions and create a society where law enforcement can perform their duties without fear of retribution or violence.
In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds perpetrators accountable but also ensures the safety and well-being of law enforcement personnel. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport are not isolated occurrences; they are part of a troubling trend that has seen an increase in assaults on police officers across the country. This alarming rise in violence against those tasked with maintaining public order underscores the urgent need for comprehensive reforms within our justice system. We must prioritize the protection of law enforcement officers, ensuring they have the necessary support and resources to carry out their duties safely and effectively. One critical aspect of this reform must involve a thorough examination of the legal frameworks that govern the treatment of individuals who assault police officers. Stricter penalties for such offenses could serve as a deterrent, sending a clear message that violence against law enforcement will not be tolerated. Additionally, we must ensure that cases involving assaults on officers are handled with the seriousness they deserve, with swift and decisive action taken against offenders. Furthermore, it is essential to foster a culture of respect and understanding between law enforcement and the communities they serve. Building trust and open lines of communication can help mitigate tensions and reduce the likelihood of confrontations that lead to violence. Community engagement initiatives, educational programs, and outreach efforts can play a vital role in bridging the gap between police officers and the public, fostering a sense of shared responsibility for safety and security. Moreover, we must also address the mental health and well-being of law enforcement personnel. The psychological toll of facing violence and danger on a daily basis can be immense, and it is crucial that officers have access to mental health resources and support systems. By prioritizing their well-being, we can help ensure that they are better equipped to handle the challenges of their profession and respond effectively in high-stress situations. In conclusion, the recent assaults on police officers at Manchester Airport serve as a stark reminder of the dangers faced by those who dedicate their lives to protecting others. It is imperative that we confront the systemic issues within our justice system that allow such violence to go unpunished. By implementing meaningful reforms, fostering community trust, and prioritizing the well-being of law enforcement personnel, we can work towards a safer society where those who serve and protect are respected, supported, and held accountable for their actions. Only then
i would expect that an armed officer would keep his hands on there guns and use whatever part of the body that is free which means there FEET....i support the officers who were attacked and await action to be taken to support our POLICE ..........
@@polmcsuibhne7657 The police fulfilled their duty, bravely facing threats and sustaining injuries while protecting others, which is an unacceptable reality in our society. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport, where officers were assaulted, serve as a stark reminder of the dangers law enforcement personnel encounter daily. Those who perpetrated these attacks should have acted in accordance with their training, which emphasizes the importance of maintaining safety in public spaces. Instead, their actions not only endangered the lives of the officers but also compromised the safety of countless individuals who rely on law enforcement to uphold order and protect them. The fact that the individuals responsible for these assaults have evaded consequences is deeply troubling and highlights significant flaws in our justice system. It raises questions about accountability and the effectiveness of legal repercussions for those who choose to engage in violence against those sworn to protect the public. This lack of accountability sends a dangerous message that such behavior may go unpunished, potentially encouraging further acts of aggression against law enforcement. Moreover, it is crucial to recognize that law enforcement officers should not be held accountable for their responses when they are acting to ensure their own safety and that of the public. The nature of their work often places them in high-stress situations where split-second decisions must be made to protect themselves and others. To penalize them for these decisions undermines the very essence of their role and could deter individuals from pursuing careers in law enforcement, ultimately jeopardizing public safety. In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds offenders accountable but also supports and protects the brave men and women who dedicate their lives to ensuring our safety. Only then can we hope to restore faith in our institutions and create a society where law enforcement can perform their duties without fear of retribution or violence.
It’s not the country but it’s politicians-the more who realise/say this the quicker we can get on with fixing the issue (politicians) Have a good day ✌️
The copper was on film bootin the guy in the head after he was tazed. You might think that holding that person to account is throwing them under the bus but police shouldn't be free to batter suspects.
@@ginorobinsonI completely agree arresting or restraining someone is one thing but attacking/assaulting them while they're restrained is completely a bully/thug mentality!😢, that being said the person shouldn't assault a police officer either!😂
@@ginorobinson and when will they be holding the Manchester Airport thugs to account? The police were attacked from `all sides’ in what could be described as a fluid situation. They police were attacked 23 July, STILL no charges, while people who threw items and `hurty words’ at the police during the riots/protests have since been arrested, charged, and in many cases convicted.
The hierarchy of the British soldiers have not protected the squad dies for decades, the senior brass dare not stand up against woke politicians and mainly those who disagree with UK foreign military policy, so how do we defend ourselves against our haters and killers...
There will be some 'new police' recruited soon, so not to worry. They're being trained right now, to add to the years of 'instruction' they've already received.
Its the same in other western countries, that means the agenda is from a centralised organisation. The people in power in these countries are taking orders from an outside agency.
Why on earth have those who assaulted the police not been charged and on remand? The police were clearly assaulted, including women, caught on camera. It’s straight forward. I believe it is time for the government to equip the police for the threat that they face today, then support them. 🙏 respect Jako 🙏
@@uonecar It isn't whether they broke the law or not. Even if they haven't broken the law they are immediately being thrown under the bus by their superiors because they are afraid the usual suspects will go out and riot or they might get called hurty names.
1. Same pay as unarmed officer. 2. No support from leadership within their own organisation. 3. Trial by media, guilty until proven innocent. 4. Deal with the nastiest most violent and evil members of society, but if there's a perception that you've been "excessive," you will be judged by people who have never been in that position and never will be.... I could go on.....
Those are terrible elements of the situation for armed cops to have to pre-consider, and be afraid of tripping over. Nothing works in their favour, in this.
It's a sad state of affairs, but the media love pulling the police up about these things. Wonder how any of them would react if they were put in these situations, even if you've had lots of training most of this is spur of the moment & they have to decide what to do. Seriously would any of us want the responsibilty knowing you'd be pulled to pieces by the public & press
Police forces have been undermined, ostensibly through those in charge inviting in so-called ‘progressive’, critical social justice values. Any organisation that subjugates themselves to the EDI nonsense will eventually eat itself from within. They’ve become politicised. Grievance mongers/witchfinders infest and proliferate in HR departments, especially in public bodies. Finding* (*creating-because their job depends on it) ‘problems’ and issues to ‘solve’ then enforcing wringing of hands, bending of the knee, repentance/reeducating, subservience to all and every ideology or ‘oppressed’ minority. Walking on eggshells so as not to hurt/harm/offend. No wonder they’re demoralised. Solving crime seems to not be a priority, they’re more interested in rooting out political freedoms and Facebook miscreants. Feel sorry for the good ones at the coal face. Was a time when being a police officer had status, now they’re a joke. Lowered standards, diversity hires, barrel scraping; because who would want to be a cop today? They need a top down purging, but that’s never going to happen. Too many fat cats and busybodies enjoying their salaries and waiting it out for their public-funded pensions.
Because they are fed up with the Sick people in charge who are defending criminals and hence AIDING and ABETTING Criminal acts. Against their own laws.
It’s because they are racist even after investigations they were found to be racist towards minorities. The people in charge are corrupt and cover up their officers racist crimes. Now that they are being scrutinised they are having a hissy fit. Seriously 2 tiered policing in this country but it’s against minorities and for whites.
More like racist police higher ups, they want wanton violence towards minorities to be normal. That’s why they left their jobs they don’t want their racist crimes investigated. What you are talking is completely bollocks.
At Manchester Airport last week, we saw police wandering through the crowds. Everyone was whispering and laughing at them. It really needs sorting quickly. Its an utter disaster and Starmer needs to be held to account.
@@clive373 if you ignore a problem such as violently assaulting armed police, then you make a mockery of the police force. As head of the government, Starmer is ultimately responsible. And as the ex head of the CPS, he knows exactly what is going on. As for claiming not to see his involvement, are you his mum ?
there is absolutely zero consequences anymore, unless you post hurty words online you can do literally anything and get away with it with a minimal sentence as the jails are full and police dont want to get involved
Because he IS the end point of your govt systems, AND, if you had actually listened to this, you'd've heard 95% of police believe lack of support from govt is having a negative effect on their job 🤷 it's pretty obvious though, you've got a uniparty, so it doesn't matter who is the person in charge
govt worried about allegations of racism. Best is to outsource police job to India - punjab or Bombay police can do a tremendous job with manchester like criminals.
@@pankaja7974maybe we could start by stopping more of those type of people from coming here in the first place . The government isn't only worried about racism they're worried about offending islam
A good friend of mine was a firearms officer. On a night out he was asked by one of our friend circle if he would ever shoot to kill?. He surprised us all by saying that he wouldn’t even pull the trigger because he’s got a clean criminal record! We thought he was joking but less than six months later he had resigned and now chauffeuring people to the airport. He seems a lot happier 👍🏻
Tbh England hass a pretty bad rate with police shotings they seem to get it wrong quite a bit they have shot the wrong person a good few times like 2023... they only shot 1 person and it was a completely innocent guy... 100% of their shootings for the year. It's mainly the met... never been to london but the met seem like a really poorly trained, corrupt police force. We rarely question our police shootings in N Ireland these days they don't hapen often but they are rarely in the wrong these days.
Rowley blames the abuse of officers on social media for putting his officers at risk on a daily basis which is a joke, Rowley has thrown his officers under bus during the policing of so called “right wing” protests and the clear two tier policing of other protests and disorder. The demise of the Met police starts at the top and Rowley is to blame. The police have now become politically motivated.
You are dumb and brainwashed. Two tier policing is true but it’s the opposite of what you’re stating. The pro-Palestine marches were heavily policed and people arrested and brutalised by police despite of being OVERWHELMINGLY peaceful with plenty of evidence everywhere. You racist right-wing drunk violent nobheads attack random people and destroy infrastructure and the police still are hesitant and only arrest a few people. If the Palestine marches were acting like you uncivilised nobheads they would ALL get arrested. Two-tiered policing exists but its the opposite of how it works out in your delusional pea brained mind.
It is also how many ex-soldiers feel, charging someone for an accidental discharge 40 years after they had left the forces. That was after the terrorists had been given a clean sheet.
Hear hear I agree. My ex husband was in the forces and was at war and I saw how he came home after having three weeks out, and to investigate these BRAVE soldiers when they were up against so much and were fighting for there country. These solicitors courts and government should be ashamed very very ashamed. Disgusting. The police !! I am disgusted not with your normal day to day policemen but I AM WITH THERE SUPERIORS whose orders they have to obey. They are appalling not the on the ground policemen. God help them as they must be so disgusted with there superiors😈😈😡😡😡
@@kathleenfederl5121 i signed up for the infantry when i was 15 years old, luckily in hindsight i was refused on medical grounds, its stories like these that make me relieved i never made it past selection.
It's not worth being a Firearms Police Officer if your superiors won't support what you are required to do at an incident such as the incident at Manchester Airport a few months ago . This is the consequences of the Government enabling the Thugs within the Islamic faith get away with criminal offences and if there are no Firearms Police Officer then it falls upon the non-specialist Police officers to deal with the thugs .
The firearms officer should of been taken off suspension and given a medal for non use of firearm kept his cool after he was violently attacked yes the kick looked bad but he couldn't risk taking his hands away from the firearm under any circumstances considering the brutal attack on the officers he should of been given a medal and the attackers should face full force of the law because there was a possibility they could of got a firearm and there could of been fatalities it's outrageous that the attackers have not been charged and the police got suspended Outrageous!! British people get sent to prison for a post on social media how can anyone say there's not a Two Tier System 🤨😤
Well depends what their duty is. Your grossly over simplifying things. For example those being prosecuted for bloody Sunday should face justice just as those complicit in the SAS operations in Afghanistan should. Being a soldier or firearms officer doesn't mean a free pass to shoot people. We are lucky to have police by consent where firearms are so meticulously scrutinized otherwise it's easy to have a slippery slope. But I do also agree that the police need far more support then they currently get.
And all those that are safeguarding our duplicitous Prime Minister, the MPs and judges should also stand down. If the public can't feel protected, then why should the elites?
The firearms officers have good reason to quit. Every time they fire a weapon they are subject to years of investigation. Every time they fail to fire a weapon they are subject to years of investigation. It's happening to armed forces personnel now too.
being a police officer is like being married to a woman, anything you do is wrong or not good enough, you zigged when ya should've zagged and you are always the problem.
If I was a firearms officer in the Met I'd hand in my license as well Mark Rolly is a useless Chief. That and having the idiot mayor khan it's a toxic system....
Wow !!!! You must be the brain of Britain. The police force is not there for the Mayor. He has no operational control. Thousands of factors . A rotten apple in England going back to Thatcher. The police in her day just had a jacket and white or blue shirt . No tasers, pepper spray ,guns ,stab proof vests everything is at her door . She created problems for nutters like you to get angry about and vote Tory. Try education.
You cannot give Officers weapons then tell them that they can either not use them or face prosecution if they do. Why would any sane person put themself voluntarily in that position??
Irony is off the scale here. On the one hand police officers are not getting the support from their senior officers that they deserve. At the same time the police service as an organising has treated the largely law abiding public with absolute contempt for several years. Their descent into authoritarianism has been steep and as a result have lost the confidence of much of the public they supposedly serve. For myself, the best I can do is consider the police the lesser of 2 evils. A further irony is that these comments come from Sir Mark Rowley who has probably done more to reduce public confidence than any police commissioner ever.
I couldn't agree more. I'm 64 & used to have great respect for the police. Now I really really don't like them. They are becoming the government's Brown Shirts.
@chetyoubetya8565 yes, and they people they treat badly are not the people who treated them badly. Scumbags be Scumbags but they're seems to be little difference between how the police test them and the average citizen. Indeed, they frequently treat the Scumbags better than they do the average citizen.
I remember a policeman stating "I have seconds to decide whether to shoot someone or not" and the Courts have 12 months to analyse whether I made the correct decision! Not wanting to carry a firearm in the UK is a no brainer".
It's the same in every western country and too often some wheezy fatso, sitting safely behind a desk, is taking his time analyzing the event while he is totally informed about the suspect, his mental issues and his history of (non)-violence, while an officer has to make the same judgement in a split second without all that information but facing a threat on his life. American cops have qualified immunity, why don't have police officers in western Europe that same privilege if we want them to protect us from muslim terrorists and other violent criminals?
My son is a Police Officer, he is Tazer trained. My wife is Jamaican so my son is mixed race. He regularly gets spat at, and racially abused. He has been considering leaving the force, and with the way the Police Force threw their colleague under the bus at Manchester airport, I don't blame him. He has applied for a transfer to dispatches, and get this, the people in despatches are on a higher salary than front line Police Officers, you couldn't make it up, I'm not saying despatches have it easy, but they aren't at risk of being attacked every day.
Give up your fear of the police. They're a gang to protect the BBC class. There aren't enough to do anything about you anyway. You're answerable to your peers, not the police. Make arrangements in your community to protect one another. Police and gangs prey on individualists, only as a community can you protect yourself.
Not 'the police', the front-line officers and constables. Are the bosses thrown to the wolves? No, they are the wolves. On the other hand... policing people for commenting on Twitter/X doesn't help to make us feel sorry.
In my opinion, the cause of these police officers resigning begins and ends with police commissioner Mark Rowley....never has a police commissioner let police officers and the public down as much as this man!!!.. That is my opinion and I'll be damned if I'll change my mind on that!!!!
They probably would have been charged had it not been for the actions of that stampy cop. As it stands there's no guarantee that a conviction would be realistic and that's one half of the decision to prosecute. Remember that in a trial the cop would have to explain to the court why he kicked a prone suspect in the head and then stamped on it.
Has it crossed your mind that the lads with their Mum where the victims of the racial abuse and the Police had no right to arrest them? That's why the lads have not been charged - it was self defense. The 'not wanting their guns taken off them' is absolute nonsense and strictly for the mugs. Don't send armed Police to intercept unarmed suspects. AT no point where the Officers guns at risk of being taken - that is clear from the video. Finally but most condemning - the Police are responsible for tethering their weapons to themselves. Otherwise they are just bringing guns into an unarmed society.
From what i have read, there was more to this story, that this was caused by an argument with a woman that preceded this incident and the police went after the wrong party. I guess we will find out in due time
Police officers are not robots.A firearms officer being attacked is entitled to neutralise his attacker. IMO if kicking the attacker does this,do it,preferable to discharging your firearm.🤔🤔
@@Neil-Aspinall I agree, Except in extreme cases when they've acted way outside of their "warrant". Currently only the special forces are offered this kind of protection, but even they're finding themselves more and more subject to deposition and loss of their anonymity.
Spot on Crims have to be clear in their minds if they mess with our Armed police their is a much higher chance of being injured /killed. and if it was a reasonable action the police should be not done for aught. In Italy the Police system is quite complicated but they always said on our drunken weekend forays in Rome, "Don't fack with the Caribinieri" those being the "serious" police with the big guns. If you did they said there is a good chance very bad things could happen.
They forget that if the officer had he used his weapon there was a good chance that more innocent bystanders would have been injured. These brothers were overly vicious, obviously trained in fighting, so they shd be arrested, jailed then deported along with their mother who has defrauded the UK Govt.
Or give warning collectively that this is going to happen on a future specified date. Then if this doesn't bring about a very quick change, do it on the date given. We'll see what the reaction is to that!
My dad refused to carry a gun ever, and this was back in the 1970s. I can only imagine how much worse it has got for the Police trying to protect the public. But then Two-Tier Keir is only interested in protecting criminals like Jimmy Savile.
@@ianreidthis is the issue I have with this now. The replacements would have been selected for the colour of their skin or for representation over good decision making or decisive thinking. They are allowing in some way the police force to be taken over.
British are stronger than that or they were during WWII - be strong for the children's sake - they are the future we all fight for! Love from the USA - Trump 2024 = pray for us too - we all have a stake in this -
@@AleadaA I agree people have to stay strong, but during WW2 the country was being defended and not letting our borders be penetrated. All that is out the window now, because our government is too soft and worried about offending people. Our country has already been invaded and practically taken over! Our ancestors who fought and died for this country would be ashamed of the direction it’s taken! I pray for Trump to win as well.. he’s the only politician not afraid to speak truth and fight for his country. Much love from Scotland💙🏴
I can think of no greater example of government duplicity than Blair giving ‘get out of jail cards’ to terrorists but denying them to the military personnel deployed….
After Harry and Meghan, and Andrew, all a result of QEII's decisions, and Charles' checking out of both debacles, or of anything more than showing up in a skirt and fluffy socks, the monarchy is a laughing stock too.
Yeah the same thing happened in Victoria Australia during Covid when people were manhandled slammed to the ground for not wearing masks...Shot with rubber bullets for protesting....Police are not very well respected there!!!
If you was to put a timeframe on it, what would it be? As to be honest I'd say that had been going on since the inception of the police force as a concept, I think I would argue that it's Inherently political, even if it should not be that way.
@@neonwired4978 It literally does though. Threaten an MP and you're very likely going to prison, download hundreds of paedo pics and pay another paedo £1500 for them, you get a suspended sentence. Which one of those is the worst offence? I know which one I'd rather someone go to prison for. Maybe if we did it the other way around MPs would actually think about their constituents
As a retired officer and ex instructor and adviser in use of force, my advice to any officer now is to not use force and get out of the job completely. I’ve seen officers that avoid conflict have long careers, drawing money for nothing, while I’ve seen good officers that challenge criminality and use proportional force when necessary, get injured for life or are wrongly targeted by managers looking to have a CV that shows they have reported on other officers.
This seems to be the case in most professions, in the UK. Professions are all set up and geared towards keeping the worst type of people, who do the minimal in the job, and aren't prepared to put their head above the parapet..
An old friend of mine who had an excellent working record and had received medals from the work he did as a policeman, he was a good policeman, left because he was sick of the politics. He said being told that they had to write their preferred pronoun on a white-board everyday was the last straw so he left the force.
I have a mate in the West Midlands Police. He's left now. Treated like crap. Made feel like being a native British heterosexual male was wrong. Having to carry female and BAME colleagues who were lazy, weak, cowardly and useless...he was an armed officer required to work around the country on serious crime. Away from home they had shit conditions, barracks style, whilst female and Muslim colleagues had their own rooms and ensuite facilities. He'd had enough as have most of his mates.
@@eleveneleven572 The problem is the good ones who have lots of experience and working knowledge are leaving and so not sharing experiences and advising the new ones to develop them. Its just a different form of de-funding the police. Marxists don't like those who follow the law, they like Brownshirts.
The problem's doesn't lie with the public criticizing the police it's not prosecuting criminals who attack them or giving them the sentences the crime disserves, not prosecuting the Manchester airport thugs sends a message to people of the same disposition the public aren't complaining about the police using firearms, it's two tier policing and prosecuting people for hurty words, this is just an attempt by Mark Rowley conflating two different issues in an attempt to shut the public up, the problem lies with him and his organisation.
Totally allowed under British law. Racial and Religious Hatred act 2006. 29JProtection of freedom of expression Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.
I think you are missing the point: the whole issue lies with the CPS. It would seem that, if they don't have signed confessions from the criminals, accompnied by a copy of their birth cerificate, mortgage docs etc, they will not bring charges. Just watch some of those Police programmes on Channel 5 etc where you can see toe rags arrested for all manner of offences and count how often the programme will end with "no charges were brought".
@@scousedavies565 I don't disagree with your post, Rowley blames criticism from the public as one of the reasons officers are handing in their firearms, i stated that has nothing to do with or why the public are criticizing the police has an whole.
Im a retired law enforcement officer, and part of my duties were to serve as a firearms instructor and manager of our firearms and use of force training program. When officers become concerned that they will be the targets of highly politicized investigations and even prosecutions, should they be required to discharge their firearm in the performance of their duties, they are not focused on the situation at hand. That is extremely dangerous . Not just for the officers involved, but the general public and bystanders. The use of force, whether it be open hands, closed fists, batons, tasers or firearms, requires split second decisions. It is very easy to look back after an incident, and critique the officers harshly. Yet none of the critics where there or involved in the dangerous situation. Being an armchair quarterback, after the football (American) game is a national pastime here. If you are a small, 5' 2", female officer, who has just been beaten to the ground and bleeding from a briken nose, i guarantee you that there are two immediate concerns running through that officer's mind: 1; am i going to make it home tonight and are my partners going to as well, and 2; if this guy gets ahold of my firearm, both the officers and the nearby public are in deadly danger. They must be free to act in a manner, commensurate with their training, which ends the violent situation in the quickest and safest manner. If that officer is lying there wondering whether or not they'll be prosecuted or lose their job, they will hesitate to act, and the incident will only get worse. Police departments are obligated to insure that their officers receive the best training possible, then allow them to do their jobs free of concern as to whether or not their department will back them up. The real fact is the 99.9 % of police officers in civilized, western nations, are honest, well intentioned people, who do a thankless and dangerous job for what amounts to very little money.
I dont blame them for quitting. With the recent Manchester airport issue as well, it seems the police themselfs, the law and MPS dont support the police. In the same breath they are still protecting the very people who dont support them. I worked in mental health and I got punched, kicked, bitten. We were encourged to tell the police for record sake but all the police said was "well its kinda your job to be hurt like us" I dont know why or when we decided violence towards people trying to help is ok?
@neonwired4978 I don't think you understood... If you read it you would of known I wasn't asking them to "solve" mental health issues. Just that their attitude of violence towards people who help society has changed to include that it's "ok" ....as in the police that spoke to me didn't see it as a big deal or a crime if the public lash out at people who work with the public. Ie: nurses, HCAs bus drivers, servers or even themselves. Why would police even think/say that?
@@abr32155 I dont think its anyones job to be assaulted by default? It can be a reality of a job for sure but the Police, secruity or army is a very diffrent role to a healthcare worker who is getting attacked just as much if not more often and then being told "thats part of your job" when we complain to the Police or public. Most HCA's who get attacked get fired btw, cant move the violent paitent so just fire the HCA, dime a dozen anyhow. I know many who have been scarred for life via violent actions and "nothing" is done about it. Edit: might of misunderstood you comment, I get what you mean now. So sorry if it came off a bit overly argumentative
Increasing people aren’t being police officers I spoke to my local officer who’s tutoring a new guy to find out to my horror the new guy was part of a class of 30 out of which only 5 passed out and are now in the streets ! 1 didn’t even turn up on the first day and when called said he wasn’t interested any more Reason unknown 4 failed the training course and were dismissed or made to do it again 1 was pregnant and although she finished most of the training will have to return later to finish the course but what was most disturbing was that 19 resigned before they completed training because they had received better job offers or changed their minds about policing ! One of those who resigned an ex army bloke decided that he would rather go abroad and serve in the Australian police who were offering him a job and help getting him and his family though immigration than serve in the British police.
Obviously because of the two tier legal system .politicians aren't bothered because they will always have their own security team looking after them at taxpayers expense.
If someone that had been arrested decided to make a complaint against the Police, It was always policy to deal with the offenders first (by way of court proceedings) and later deal with the complaint. Otherwise, every person being arrested would make a complaint in an attempt to delay being charged/bailed to court. The ones that did make complaints soon realised that their delaying tactics were futile and they would usually drop the complaint.
My eldest stepson had a career in engineering but always wanted to be a police officer. He stuck it for 5 years and towards the end he would not approach an ethnic minority without the direction of a senior officer. They always pulled the race card and he would have no support from senior officers. Totally disillusioned he left and returned to engineering and the force lost a good officer. I have great sympathy for plod on the front line as they have little or no support from their seniors.
Very true, I served in the 70s wouldn't join now or want any of my children to join. My daughter has had 3 friends leave totally disillusioned. There's absolutely no support from the top, they just get thrown under the bus.
I would pull the race card too as an ethnic minority because I have had numerous racist encounters with aggressive racist police officers before. Stereotypes exist for a reason and you racist plod who have been investigated and have been found “institutionally racist” are the reasons why the job is not very attractive.
And you should stop making excuses for your police’s reputation of harbouring extreme violent racists and address the problem and get them out of the force and maybe everyone will stop hating you.
@@bigbasil1908 Of course not, he has just been handed the reins. They are all acting as puppets of the WEF. It's not just Starmer, it is EVERY Western country (bar Hungary which is being fined huge amounts of money for refusing to bring in these mostly young fit men). I can only assume that this is for nefarious purposes, my bet that they'll soon appear wearing UN blue helmets to enforce restrictions on us leading to Agenda 2030.
Wait, Who was in power for the last 14 years? I personally can't stand him, But It has next to zero to do with Starmer, And if you tried to think past what the DM tells you, You may remember the same firearms offers that are leaving, did their paper work to leave over a year ago under the Tories.
Well I have to agree with allenfauljlkner All fighting fit Mugrants. They say there is a reason for everything, even if you don't see it. Apart from Theresa May signing The Global Migration Compact.
I have done some work recently for a former police officer. He had various roles through his career, from walking the streets to the riot squad. He told me there is nothing that would make him go back, and many of the people he used to work with feel the same and have left or are in the process of leaving. Anyone with any common sense or scruples wants out.
I don’t often comment however this is one of those times that warrants my view. Being a Police Officer today, is akin to being told that you’ve been selected for a free ticket on a completely save dive to see the Titanic on the mini sub Titan. Or being thrown into a river wearing lead boots with your hands tied. The woke society that we have allowed to take over has consequences, and this is one. Keep up the good work Dan 👌.
The upper echelons of the police expect a police officer, who just got punched repeatedly in the face and saw his female colleague get punched too, to act calmly in the situation. This is rubbish to the extreme and if I was putting my life on the line for someone who isn’t watching my back then I would do exactly the same.
@@tomriley5790 She would have to seek permission to take a private prosecution from her police authority. Yes, it's the beyond reasonable doubt but if she wanted to take a civil case with, as you point out, the balance of probability she would still need permission to go ahead. Also, the CPS can take over a private prosecution and offer no evidence.
The problem is poor management and recruiting throughout the police force, in addition to the new thought police people do not trust the law makers, the law enforcers and the judiciary. Rowley and Khan are two of the main concerns for the population. Just remember Rowley attacking a journalist for asking a question. You cannot have a law for one and anther for others.
if we are to expect the police to protect the public, first they must be able to protect themselves. The thugs at Manchester airport should be behind bars by now serving a very long sentence. If I was a police officer, I think I would have quit after that as well.
No, they dropped the charges and the family is now suing the police. Greater Manchester Police already paid renowned gang member and child molester (famous non consentual muscle feeler) £70,000 as an officer used the popular nickname for him "purple aki" as his name is difficult to pronounce, as he claimed calling him purple was racist because it referenced his skin colour. Expect at least these payouts to the attackers at Manchester Airport.
I said a long time ago. You dare not use your weapon as your investigated immediately. What's the point. Same in the military. Soldiers being prosecuted for catering out their duty as per training. I am speechless.
Unfortunately the system only protects the thugs. I used to taxi drive for a living, and I carried a 3-cell Maglite torch in the door pocket, principally for finding door numbers at night, but also as a self defence weapon. Fortunately I never needed to use it for this purpose, but a police officer friend once told me that had I used it as such, then no matter what the mitigating circumstances, it was likely I'd get charged with carrying and using an offensive weapon. As a torch it was perfectly OK. Go figure!
Yeah, maybe you should've carried something more serious. Certainly not legal advice, but you can diffuse a situation by clear demonstration of your 'tactical advantage' it can save your life, and you get a much less serious charge, if any at all. Certainly not a weapon, of course, but perhaps a large tool used to give extra leverage to install a spare tyre for example. Worst comes to worst you get the same charge against you. But it only turns into a weapon when you need to use it, and in that case, the repercussions of not defending yourself should be higher anyway.
In UK law, any object is classed as an offensive weapon of you're carrying it to use as protection. *NEVER* say you're carrying it as protection. Always have an innocent and real use for it, and insist you picked it up as it was the nearest object to hand (e.g. you're in trouble if you go to the boot to get it. You're likely fine if it's next to you in the door pocket).
Higher management do not support the front line, My son a sergeant with the MET retired as soon as his 25 years was up as he said there was a total lack of support from the MET for himself and his team and to many pen pushers at the top.
Do you realize that "policy enforcers" is *EXACTLY* what the words "police force" mean? Compare the words 'Policy' and 'Police'. Did you notice the similarities? It's not a coincidence.
If I were that policewoman that had her nose broken I would be seriously considering whether I wanted to continue serving in the UK when it seems apparent that the government, police hierarchy and the judiciary don't have my back.
I'm sure the government would tell you they are against violence against women, okay though for people of a certain ethnic background to break s woman's nose. I wonder what pressure I'd being brought on her by GMP to not sue under common law?
Nope. In NK when someone attacks you in order to Grape you, steal your possessions or just hurt you, the attacker goes to prison not you. If someone deliberately k**** your children, it's a death sentence for the murderer. (I have not heard about a single attack on kids but the law is there.) You are not labeled a hater and racist because you defended yourself. It would not even cross the NK authorities' mind to demand that you show love and compassion toward your attacker. There are many things we can criticize about NK but the statement above is 100% true. Also, what is the law in NK it used to be the law in the western countries, too.
@@vesnalazar5537Marxist-Leninist States like Cuba and North Korea aren't woke-leftists. Venezuela, the African countries and some others are the end result of the West if they do not purge leftist ideology from their countries.
I was a police officer for 8 years, it's one of the hardest jobs there is and it's even harder when your superiors do not support you. I miss it, but I'm also glad I left. Even recruitment does not care about you, they chose people just to tick boxes instead of choosing the most capable people. The police I miss no longer exists.
I mean, we really miss having peelers too. But they're starmer's yeomanry now, not police. No police by consent, police aren't civilians anymore by a long shot, and are political appointees. By rights they should be arrested for impersonating such. Now you call the police and they say 'oh, that's an area controlled by a gang, you should be careful' Right, I mean, I can call the boys and we can deal with it, but i'm sure the POLICE will be round THEN. Result is, they are enabling crime gangs to rule our lives, and police are complicit in their crimes. We have no legal recourse whatsoever. You have to 'make friends' with your local 'community groups' to have any degree of safety where I live. Maybe bake cakes for the motorcycle club and they know a guy who knows a guy. You know, back to the bad old days. And it wouldn't be so bad if the police didn't still cost us a fortune, forbid someone leaves tyre marks on the local rainbow crossing, post on twitter or other high crime, but oh gosh how understaffed they are if there are violent attacks, gangs, theft, stalking, sexual assault that we've had the past few years. Well. What they've reaped now, is that if someone attacks a woman round here, they end up 'going back to london' and they aren't seen again, no need to bother the busy police. This isn't the world I wanted to be in or raise my children in. 'Police are there to keep you safe' is what I wanted to tell them, not 'chris next door is in the biker gang, they'll keep you safe' Or, 'it's okay, that's the drug gang, they keep us safe from the child sex ring gang' If the police went away, the front businesses and cronies would be smashed up like in the protests, all those open secret crime syndicates with ties to the council. And we'd probably have to pay more racket money of course. Ex police deal weed in the posh areas, that's gone on decades. Maybe it's always been a bit like this. But it's not very secret anymore where I live.
@@crow4936The law is racist extremely in favour of anyone with yt skin. You are just angry some equality is slowly being phased in. You people will only be happy when the darkies are in chains working the field again. That’s what you really want to say.
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The police fulfilled their duty, bravely facing threats and sustaining injuries while protecting others, which is an unacceptable reality in our society. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport, where officers were assaulted, serve as a stark reminder of the dangers law enforcement personnel encounter daily. Those who perpetrated these attacks should have acted in accordance with their training, which emphasizes the importance of maintaining safety in public spaces. Instead, their actions not only endangered the lives of the officers but also compromised the safety of countless individuals who rely on law enforcement to uphold order and protect them. The fact that the individuals responsible for these assaults have evaded consequences is deeply troubling and highlights significant flaws in our justice system. It raises questions about accountability and the effectiveness of legal repercussions for those who choose to engage in violence against those sworn to protect the public. This lack of accountability sends a dangerous message that such behavior may go unpunished, potentially encouraging further acts of aggression against law enforcement. Moreover, it is crucial to recognize that law enforcement officers should not be held accountable for their responses when they are acting to ensure their own safety and that of the public. The nature of their work often places them in high-stress situations where split-second decisions must be made to protect themselves and others. To penalize them for these decisions undermines the very essence of their role and could deter individuals from pursuing careers in law enforcement, ultimately jeopardizing public safety. In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds offenders accountable but also supports and protects the brave men and women who dedicate their lives to ensuring our safety. Only then can we hope to restore faith in our institutions and create a society where law enforcement can perform their duties without fear of retribution or violence.
In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds perpetrators accountable but also ensures the safety and well-being of law enforcement personnel. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport are not isolated occurrences; they are part of a troubling trend that has seen an increase in assaults on police officers across the country. This alarming rise in violence against those tasked with maintaining public order underscores the urgent need for comprehensive reforms within our justice system. We must prioritize the protection of law enforcement officers, ensuring they have the necessary support and resources to carry out their duties safely and effectively. One critical aspect of this reform must involve a thorough examination of the legal frameworks that govern the treatment of individuals who assault police officers. Stricter penalties for such offenses could serve as a deterrent, sending a clear message that violence against law enforcement will not be tolerated. Additionally, we must ensure that cases involving assaults on officers are handled with the seriousness they deserve, with swift and decisive action taken against offenders. Furthermore, it is essential to foster a culture of respect and understanding between law enforcement and the communities they serve. Building trust and open lines of communication can help mitigate tensions and reduce the likelihood of confrontations that lead to violence. Community engagement initiatives, educational programs, and outreach efforts can play a vital role in bridging the gap between police officers and the public, fostering a sense of shared responsibility for safety and security. Moreover, we must also address the mental health and well-being of law enforcement personnel. The psychological toll of facing violence and danger on a daily basis can be immense, and it is crucial that officers have access to mental health resources and support systems. By prioritizing their well-being, we can help ensure that they are better equipped to handle the challenges of their profession and respond effectively in high-stress situations. In conclusion, the recent assaults on police officers at Manchester Airport serve as a stark reminder of the dangers faced by those who dedicate their lives to protecting others. It is imperative that we confront the systemic issues within our justice system that allow such violence to go unpunished. By implementing meaningful reforms, fostering community trust, and prioritizing the well-being of law enforcement personnel, we can work towards a safer society where those who serve and protect are respected, supported, and held accountable for their actions. Only then
i would expect that an armed officer would keep his hands on there guns and use whatever part of the body that is free which means there FEET....i support the officers who were attacked and await action to be taken to support our POLICE ..........
@polmcsuibhne7657 me too
@@polmcsuibhne7657 The police fulfilled their duty, bravely facing threats and sustaining injuries while protecting others, which is an unacceptable reality in our society. The recent incidents at Manchester Airport, where officers were assaulted, serve as a stark reminder of the dangers law enforcement personnel encounter daily. Those who perpetrated these attacks should have acted in accordance with their training, which emphasizes the importance of maintaining safety in public spaces. Instead, their actions not only endangered the lives of the officers but also compromised the safety of countless individuals who rely on law enforcement to uphold order and protect them.
The fact that the individuals responsible for these assaults have evaded consequences is deeply troubling and highlights significant flaws in our justice system. It raises questions about accountability and the effectiveness of legal repercussions for those who choose to engage in violence against those sworn to protect the public. This lack of accountability sends a dangerous message that such behavior may go unpunished, potentially encouraging further acts of aggression against law enforcement.
Moreover, it is crucial to recognize that law enforcement officers should not be held accountable for their responses when they are acting to ensure their own safety and that of the public. The nature of their work often places them in high-stress situations where split-second decisions must be made to protect themselves and others. To penalize them for these decisions undermines the very essence of their role and could deter individuals from pursuing careers in law enforcement, ultimately jeopardizing public safety.
In light of these events, I maintain that our justice system is fundamentally corrupt. The systemic issues that allow for such violence against police officers to go unpunished reflect a broader failure to uphold the rule of law and protect those who serve our communities. It is imperative that we address these flaws and work towards a justice system that not only holds offenders accountable but also supports and protects the brave men and women who dedicate their lives to ensuring our safety. Only then can we hope to restore faith in our institutions and create a society where law enforcement can perform their duties without fear of retribution or violence.
Seriously this country is a joke
This country is under attack by infiltrated institutions.
Life is a joke not just this country,always helping the criminals and punishment for the rest the law is a mess.
@@crow4936 That does not happen everywhere.
It’s not the country but it’s politicians-the more who realise/say this the quicker we can get on with fixing the issue (politicians)
Have a good day ✌️
Fact
Home secretary's immediate response was to throw the Manchester officers under the bus. Who can blame them.
The copper was on film bootin the guy in the head after he was tazed.
You might think that holding that person to account is throwing them under the bus but police shouldn't be free to batter suspects.
@@ginorobinsonI completely agree arresting or restraining someone is one thing but attacking/assaulting them while they're restrained is completely a bully/thug mentality!😢, that being said the person shouldn't assault a police officer either!😂
@ginorobinson did you only watch the edited edition?
Acting before you know the facts for political reasons, then?
@@ginorobinson and when will they be holding the Manchester Airport thugs to account? The police were attacked from `all sides’ in what could be described as a fluid situation. They police were attacked 23 July, STILL no charges, while people who threw items and `hurty words’ at the police during the riots/protests have since been arrested, charged, and in many cases convicted.
Naming an armed officer before his trial then wondering why officers are quitting 😢
The hierarchy of the British soldiers have not protected the squad dies for decades, the senior brass dare not stand up against woke politicians and mainly those who disagree with UK foreign military policy, so how do we defend ourselves against our haters and killers...
They make the choice. Probably giving it all the blue line bs. It is what it is.
Like naming oh I don't know, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC?
So police officers walking away, prisoners released en-masse and courts making a mockery of sentencing.... Law and order is breaking down folks.
We are also being made very aware of this.
Problem, reaction, solution.
Mwahaha...just what Klaus Swab at the WEF 'predicted'
WEF Agenda and Starmer is one of them so not surprised
There will be some 'new police' recruited soon, so not to worry. They're being trained right now, to add to the years of 'instruction' they've already received.
Side show shit show at the shit show
England where criminals are treated like victims and victims are treated like criminals a very sick country .
While criminals make our laws and innocent people rot in prison “justice” is just a myth.
You can quote me on that 😉
"A M@rx!st system is recognised by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalises political opponents."
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
I truly believe & feel in my instincts that we are doomed & living in the End times... 🕰️✝️🕰️
Britain
Its the same in other western countries, that means the agenda is from a centralised organisation. The people in power in these countries are taking orders from an outside agency.
Why on earth have those who assaulted the police not been charged and on remand? The police were clearly assaulted, including women, caught on camera. It’s straight forward. I believe it is time for the government to equip the police for the threat that they face today, then support them. 🙏 respect Jako 🙏
Skin colour.
Thats the problem, no support from higher up.
If a firearms officer feels he does not have the support of their superiors, why put themselves at risk of prosecution ? It’s just not worth it.
so if they break the law they should be exempt
Did you mean 'prosecution'?
@@uonecar It isn't whether they broke the law or not. Even if they haven't broken the law they are immediately being thrown under the bus by their superiors because they are afraid the usual suspects will go out and riot or they might get called hurty names.
@@muddywitch9016 we need one of them to come out and tell us why this is happening.
Covid police, meme police so no respect from the ordinary people anymore, stop voting for crap
1. Same pay as unarmed officer.
2. No support from leadership within their own organisation.
3. Trial by media, guilty until proven innocent.
4. Deal with the nastiest most violent and evil members of society, but if there's a perception that you've been "excessive," you will be judged by people who have never been in that position and never will be....
I could go on.....
Those are terrible elements of the situation for armed cops to have to pre-consider, and be afraid of tripping over. Nothing works in their favour, in this.
It's a sad state of affairs, but the media love pulling the police up about these things. Wonder how any of them would react if they were put in these situations, even if you've had lots of training most of this is spur of the moment & they have to decide what to do. Seriously would any of us want the responsibilty knowing you'd be pulled to pieces by the public & press
Absolutely true.@@judidonnie1167
BBC and other British media don’t belong to British public anymore. TV license money should not finance it!
Police forces have been undermined, ostensibly through those in charge inviting in so-called ‘progressive’, critical social justice values. Any organisation that subjugates themselves to the EDI nonsense will eventually eat itself from within. They’ve become politicised. Grievance mongers/witchfinders infest and proliferate in HR departments, especially in public bodies. Finding* (*creating-because their job depends on it) ‘problems’ and issues to ‘solve’ then enforcing wringing of hands, bending of the knee, repentance/reeducating, subservience to all and every ideology or ‘oppressed’ minority. Walking on eggshells so as not to hurt/harm/offend.
No wonder they’re demoralised.
Solving crime seems to not be a priority, they’re more interested in rooting out political freedoms and Facebook miscreants.
Feel sorry for the good ones at the coal face. Was a time when being a police officer had status, now they’re a joke.
Lowered standards, diversity hires, barrel scraping; because who would want to be a cop today?
They need a top down purging, but that’s never going to happen. Too many fat cats and busybodies enjoying their salaries and waiting it out for their public-funded pensions.
Quite simply their spineless leaders do not have their backs. They do not deserve their authority to manage proper police officers.
Because they are fed up with the Sick people in charge who are defending criminals and hence AIDING and ABETTING Criminal acts. Against their own laws.
It’s because they are racist even after investigations they were found to be racist towards minorities. The people in charge are corrupt and cover up their officers racist crimes. Now that they are being scrutinised they are having a hissy fit. Seriously 2 tiered policing in this country but it’s against minorities and for whites.
Those in charge do not want to lose the opportunity of having their name on the "Honours List"!
Wasn't the paperwork for this done a year ago? Whilst the tories were still in? I think so.
@@briantyler689 the police force have become just another unelected political party , nothing now to do with right and wrong
@@UncleBenjsno, this airport incident was just before the riots, under labour.
Why, because they have all been thrown under the bus, absolutely no backing from woke police higher ups.
Hahahahahahahaha far left lefties and clowns 🤡🤡🤡🤣😉🇬🇧
More like racist police higher ups, they want wanton violence towards minorities to be normal. That’s why they left their jobs they don’t want their racist crimes investigated. What you are talking is completely bollocks.
@@AKMilli-sn4nx what wanton violence against minorities, do you have statistical evidence to back that up ?
@@dinogoldie9716 INSANE.
@@dinogoldie9716 Radical social leftism drawn out to the point of insanity.
At Manchester Airport last week, we saw police wandering through the crowds. Everyone was whispering and laughing at them. It really needs sorting quickly. Its an utter disaster and Starmer needs to be held to account.
how is starmer responsible? I don't like the bloke, but seriously how do you think starmer has anything to do with this?
@@clive373 if you ignore a problem such as violently assaulting armed police, then you make a mockery of the police force. As head of the government, Starmer is ultimately responsible. And as the ex head of the CPS, he knows exactly what is going on. As for claiming not to see his involvement, are you his mum ?
there is absolutely zero consequences anymore, unless you post hurty words online you can do literally anything and get away with it with a minimal sentence as the jails are full and police dont want to get involved
Because he IS the end point of your govt systems, AND, if you had actually listened to this, you'd've heard 95% of police believe lack of support from govt is having a negative effect on their job 🤷 it's pretty obvious though, you've got a uniparty, so it doesn't matter who is the person in charge
@@dbz9393 why are you not robbing banks if you believe that nonsense?
I don’t blame them. If the Government don’t support them in the work they do why should they put their jobs and more importantly their lives in danger
govt worried about allegations of racism. Best is to outsource police job to India - punjab or Bombay police can do a tremendous job with manchester like criminals.
so when they arrested the rioters and people on facebook they are just doing their job
so you support the same police what are arresting people for Facebook posts
@@pankaja7974
Well said and I agree 💯
@@pankaja7974maybe we could start by stopping more of those type of people from coming here in the first place . The government isn't only worried about racism they're worried about offending islam
Hats of to genuine honest police officers , it must be difficult.
You can't wear a hat as there are none
It's difficult when you've got the left wing,labour and media against you not a spine in any of them,they seem to love immigrants
The scary thing is that it appears to be the ones with morals and intelligence are leaving. Who's gonna be left 🙈
The men arriving by the day across the channel sadly. It’s a replacement
thats probably what they want.
Stasi
Time for the ones with morals to start their own security services.
Agree 100% seems like we're reaching for the bottom of the barrel!!!
A good friend of mine was a firearms officer. On a night out he was asked by one of our friend circle if he would ever shoot to kill?. He surprised us all by saying that he wouldn’t even pull the trigger because he’s got a clean criminal record! We thought he was joking but less than six months later he had resigned and now chauffeuring people to the airport. He seems a lot happier 👍🏻
Tbh England hass a pretty bad rate with police shotings they seem to get it wrong quite a bit they have shot the wrong person a good few times like 2023... they only shot 1 person and it was a completely innocent guy... 100% of their shootings for the year. It's mainly the met... never been to london but the met seem like a really poorly trained, corrupt police force. We rarely question our police shootings in N Ireland these days they don't hapen often but they are rarely in the wrong these days.
Good for him. And i thought they were all bstards. Ive been oroved wrong even though one kicked the sht out of me when i was' 14 (for nothing)
The health service hmmm. 2020\21 to present day??!!
The met are the worst by far...@@bloodandhonorireland3329
No such thing as a ‘Clean Criminal Record’. You’ve either got one or you haven’t.
Rowley blames the abuse of officers on social media for putting his officers at risk on a daily basis which is a joke, Rowley has thrown his officers under bus during the policing of so called “right wing” protests and the clear two tier policing of other protests and disorder. The demise of the Met police starts at the top and Rowley is to blame. The police have now become politically motivated.
You are dumb and brainwashed. Two tier policing is true but it’s the opposite of what you’re stating. The pro-Palestine marches were heavily policed and people arrested and brutalised by police despite of being OVERWHELMINGLY peaceful with plenty of evidence everywhere. You racist right-wing drunk violent nobheads attack random people and destroy infrastructure and the police still are hesitant and only arrest a few people. If the Palestine marches were acting like you uncivilised nobheads they would ALL get arrested.
Two-tiered policing exists but its the opposite of how it works out in your delusional pea brained mind.
I agree with you. Rowley is the problem, he’s not a cop, he’s an activist running the Police force.
It started well before him.
@@nickbrough8335 True, Hogan-Howe and Dick are also right up there.
The last true Chief Constable was James Anderton of GMP the rest have been sops
It is also how many ex-soldiers feel, charging someone for an accidental discharge 40 years after they had left the forces. That was after the terrorists had been given a clean sheet.
Hear hear I agree. My ex husband was in the forces and was at war and I saw how he came home after having three weeks out, and to investigate these BRAVE soldiers when they were up against so much and were fighting for there country.
These solicitors courts and government should be ashamed very very ashamed. Disgusting.
The police !! I am disgusted not with your normal day to day policemen but I AM WITH THERE SUPERIORS whose orders they have to obey. They are appalling not the on the ground policemen. God help them as they must be so disgusted with there superiors😈😈😡😡😡
Terrorists are British soldiers who where tying to take over someone else’s country It is there country not Britton’s get it yet facts
@@kathleenfederl5121I know the amount of disrespect towards our men absolutely angers me.
@@kathleenfederl5121 i signed up for the infantry when i was 15 years old, luckily in hindsight i was refused on medical grounds, its stories like these that make me relieved i never made it past selection.
It's not worth being a Firearms Police Officer if your superiors won't support what you are required to do at an incident such as the incident at Manchester Airport a few months ago . This is the consequences of the Government enabling the Thugs within the Islamic faith get away with criminal offences and if there are no Firearms Police Officer then it falls upon the non-specialist Police officers to deal with the thugs .
The firearms officer should of been taken off suspension and given a medal for non use of firearm kept his cool after he was violently attacked yes the kick looked bad but he couldn't risk taking his hands away from the firearm under any circumstances considering the brutal attack on the officers he should of been given a medal and the attackers should face full force of the law because there was a possibility they could of got a firearm and there could of been fatalities it's outrageous that the attackers have not been charged and the police got suspended Outrageous!! British people get sent to prison for a post on social media how can anyone say there's not a Two Tier System 🤨😤
This is a terrible thing. They want all the sturdy ones out of the force. They will be replaced by the dancing policemen and women and..
'Slims
They don’t want sturdy police they want police officers who can get sturdy and twerk at notting hill and pride😎
No different than Soldiers doing their Duty and now are being taken to Court for Doing Their DUTY.
Well depends what their duty is. Your grossly over simplifying things. For example those being prosecuted for bloody Sunday should face justice just as those complicit in the SAS operations in Afghanistan should.
Being a soldier or firearms officer doesn't mean a free pass to shoot people.
We are lucky to have police by consent where firearms are so meticulously scrutinized otherwise it's easy to have a slippery slope. But I do also agree that the police need far more support then they currently get.
Yip they prosecute the soldier for doing what he was ordered to do, but the one giving the order gets a pass keeps their rank and pension.
@@jamiemacdonald5203 you are talking s*** so if they ordered to kill women and children that's fine
@@alistairjclark2433 Armchair warrior welcome.
@@jamiemacdonald5203 the nazi soldiers used an excuse
And all those that are safeguarding our duplicitous Prime Minister, the MPs and judges should also stand down. If the public can't feel protected, then why should the elites?
I'd support the police but we have a two tier police system in this country and unfortunately I'm not in the preferred tier.
The firearms officers have good reason to quit. Every time they fire a weapon they are subject to years of investigation. Every time they fail to fire a weapon they are subject to years of investigation. It's happening to armed forces personnel now too.
That's because they have had years of covering things up. Now people aren't scared of the elites and will testify.
Robocop will become the replacement
being a police officer is like being married to a woman, anything you do is wrong or not good enough, you zigged when ya should've zagged and you are always the problem.
If I was a firearms officer in the Met I'd hand in my license as well Mark Rolly is a useless Chief. That and having the idiot mayor khan it's a toxic system....
Wow !!!!
You must be the brain of Britain.
The police force is not there for the Mayor.
He has no operational control.
Thousands of factors .
A rotten apple in England going back to Thatcher.
The police in her day just had a jacket and white or blue shirt .
No tasers, pepper spray ,guns ,stab proof vests everything is at her door .
She created problems for nutters like you to get angry about and vote Tory.
Try education.
Good we need less racist muppets in authoritative positions.
'Khan'?, that's not an English name, is it?
@@Carmine_Lupertazzi yes many english people have the name
@neonwired4978 No, they don't. A chicken born in a stable isn't a horse. Dunce.
You cannot give Officers weapons then tell them that they can either not use them or face prosecution if they do. Why would any sane person put themself voluntarily in that position??
Irony is off the scale here. On the one hand police officers are not getting the support from their senior officers that they deserve. At the same time the police service as an organising has treated the largely law abiding public with absolute contempt for several years. Their descent into authoritarianism has been steep and as a result have lost the confidence of much of the public they supposedly serve.
For myself, the best I can do is consider the police the lesser of 2 evils.
A further irony is that these comments come from Sir Mark Rowley who has probably done more to reduce public confidence than any police commissioner ever.
I couldn't agree more. I'm 64 & used to have great respect for the police. Now I really really don't like them. They are becoming the government's Brown Shirts.
Exactly. Great comment.
Contempt??If you look at the stats and you see that more officers are harmed than any of the people who are whining about them.
Why do you equate contempt with( physical) harm?@@chetyoubetya8565
@chetyoubetya8565 yes, and they people they treat badly are not the people who treated them badly. Scumbags be Scumbags but they're seems to be little difference between how the police test them and the average citizen. Indeed, they frequently treat the Scumbags better than they do the average citizen.
I remember a policeman stating "I have seconds to decide whether to shoot someone or not" and the Courts have 12 months to analyse whether I made the correct decision! Not wanting to carry a firearm in the UK is a no brainer".
If plod needs seconds to decide, then too long was taken, shit goes down in milliseconds.
Very true indeed
It's the same in every western country and too often some wheezy fatso, sitting safely behind a desk, is taking his time analyzing the event while he is totally informed about the suspect, his mental issues and his history of (non)-violence, while an officer has to make the same judgement in a split second without all that information but facing a threat on his life. American cops have qualified immunity, why don't have police officers in western Europe that same privilege if we want them to protect us from muslim terrorists and other violent criminals?
It’s about time the police had crown immunity to allow them to carry out their jobs.
@@robwakefield4699 because giving people immunity from their actions is a brilliant idea
My son is a Police Officer, he is Tazer trained. My wife is Jamaican so my son is mixed race. He regularly gets spat at, and racially abused. He has been considering leaving the force, and with the way the Police Force threw their colleague under the bus at Manchester airport, I don't blame him. He has applied for a transfer to dispatches, and get this, the people in despatches are on a higher salary than front line Police Officers, you couldn't make it up, I'm not saying despatches have it easy, but they aren't at risk of being attacked every day.
How can UK citizens expect to defend themselves when the UK police arrest citizens who fight back against criminals?
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6...
become ungovernable
Give up your fear of the police. They're a gang to protect the BBC class. There aren't enough to do anything about you anyway. You're answerable to your peers, not the police. Make arrangements in your community to protect one another. Police and gangs prey on individualists, only as a community can you protect yourself.
What makes you think you’re allowed to defend yourself in the UK? UK people all surrendered your rights to the government decades ago.
@@michaelbritain5546 Is it?
The police are sick of being thrown to the wolves 🐺 as much as us loyal British.. it’s obvious the clown show must stop 🛑 for the sake of our sanity
No sympathy for the plods that still arrested Bernadette after they were told by their own lawyer it would be illegal and without warrant.
Not 'the police', the front-line officers and constables. Are the bosses thrown to the wolves? No, they are the wolves.
On the other hand... policing people for commenting on Twitter/X doesn't help to make us feel sorry.
In my opinion, the cause of these police officers resigning begins and ends with police commissioner Mark Rowley....never has a police commissioner let police officers and the public down as much as this man!!!.. That is my opinion and I'll be damned if I'll change my mind on that!!!!
Those airport offenders should have been charged. It is outrageous they were not. Why would Police not resign after that?
They probably would have been charged had it not been for the actions of that stampy cop. As it stands there's no guarantee that a conviction would be realistic and that's one half of the decision to prosecute. Remember that in a trial the cop would have to explain to the court why he kicked a prone suspect in the head and then stamped on it.
Has it crossed your mind that the lads with their Mum where the victims of the racial abuse and the Police had no right to arrest them?
That's why the lads have not been charged - it was self defense.
The 'not wanting their guns taken off them' is absolute nonsense and strictly for the mugs. Don't send armed Police to intercept unarmed suspects. AT no point where the Officers guns at risk of being taken - that is clear from the video. Finally but most condemning - the Police are responsible for tethering their weapons to themselves. Otherwise they are just bringing guns into an unarmed society.
They were arrested, a large group of people went to the police station and threatened the cops so they were released and let off.
@@jannenreuben7398the copper was repeatedly punched to the ground so they are not innocent
From what i have read, there was more to this story, that this was caused by an argument with a woman that preceded this incident and the police went after the wrong party. I guess we will find out in due time
Police officers are not robots.A firearms officer being attacked is entitled to neutralise his attacker.
IMO if kicking the attacker does this,do it,preferable to discharging your firearm.🤔🤔
These type of serious Police must be given total indemnity, with the authorities absolutely taking their back.
@@Neil-Aspinall I agree, Except in extreme cases when they've acted way outside of their "warrant". Currently only the special forces are offered this kind of protection, but even they're finding themselves more and more subject to deposition and loss of their anonymity.
Spot on Crims have to be clear in their minds if they mess with our Armed police their is a much higher chance of being injured /killed. and if it was a reasonable action the police should be not done for aught. In Italy the Police system is quite complicated but they always said on our drunken weekend forays in Rome, "Don't fack with the Caribinieri" those being the "serious" police with the big guns. If you did they said there is a good chance very bad things could happen.
Source ? The deep deep crevasse of your ass.
They forget that if the officer had he used his weapon there was a good chance that more innocent bystanders would have been injured. These brothers were overly vicious, obviously trained in fighting, so they shd be arrested, jailed then deported along with their mother who has defrauded the UK Govt.
ROWLEY should NOT be in the JOB he is currently in !!
Every single police officer should hand back their firearms and taser authority.
Or give warning collectively that this is going to happen on a future specified date. Then if this doesn't bring about a very quick change, do it on the date given. We'll see what the reaction is to that!
Their uniforms as well and bring in the military oh wait their leaders are as woke
My dad refused to carry a gun ever, and this was back in the 1970s. I can only imagine how much worse it has got for the Police trying to protect the public. But then Two-Tier Keir is only interested in protecting criminals like Jimmy Savile.
Yes, the worst thing is that the ones that choose to stay will be the ones you would least want to have them.
@@ianreidthis is the issue I have with this now. The replacements would have been selected for the colour of their skin or for representation over good decision making or decisive thinking.
They are allowing in some way the police force to be taken over.
We’re all doomed.. the country is fckd😑
British are stronger than that or they were during WWII - be strong for the children's sake - they are the future we all fight for! Love from the USA - Trump 2024 = pray for us too - we all have a stake in this -
@@AleadaA I agree people have to stay strong, but during WW2 the country was being defended and not letting our borders be penetrated. All that is out the window now, because our government is too soft and worried about offending people.
Our country has already been invaded and practically taken over!
Our ancestors who fought and died for this country would be ashamed of the direction it’s taken!
I pray for Trump to win as well.. he’s the only politician not afraid to speak truth and fight for his country.
Much love from Scotland💙🏴
Seconds away, round 2
There is no doubt that these men have not yet been charged due to their “heratige” and the uproar it would cause in certain ethnic groups.
Of course not. No one is allowed to touch the precious “protected species”
I can think of no greater example of government duplicity than Blair giving ‘get out of jail cards’ to terrorists but denying them to the military personnel deployed….
The law and this country is fast becoming the laughing stock of this world
After Harry and Meghan, and Andrew, all a result of QEII's decisions, and Charles' checking out of both debacles, or of anything more than showing up in a skirt and fluffy socks, the monarchy is a laughing stock too.
Armed Forces should refuse to protect the politicians and judges etc they’d soon get treated as they deserve.
The police lost public support when they became politicised
No sympathy from me either they only allow certain people to protest and have a hobby of arresting people for words that hurt peoples feelngs, f'em.
Yeah the same thing happened in Victoria Australia during Covid when people were manhandled slammed to the ground for not wearing masks...Shot with rubber bullets for protesting....Police are not very well respected there!!!
Police and Crime Commissioners need to be scrapped.
The police were put in a shocking position all by design
If you was to put a timeframe on it, what would it be?
As to be honest I'd say that had been going on since the inception of the police force as a concept, I think I would argue that it's Inherently political, even if it should not be that way.
When the law appeases criminals at the expense of the lawful, what remains the purpose of remaining lawful.
it doesn't, at all.
@@neonwired4978 are you saying the law doesn't appease the criminal or are you saying there isn't a remaining purpose to remain lawful?
@@neonwired4978 It literally does though. Threaten an MP and you're very likely going to prison, download hundreds of paedo pics and pay another paedo £1500 for them, you get a suspended sentence. Which one of those is the worst offence? I know which one I'd rather someone go to prison for. Maybe if we did it the other way around MPs would actually think about their constituents
@@The_Phoenix_Saga Are you saying the rioters behaved lawfully?
@@laurastuart3814 Did the BLM rioters behave lawfully? But no one talks about them, do they.
Sharing this in America to warn us to keep our guns.
What do you expect with someone like Mark Rowley in charge.
As a retired officer and ex instructor and adviser in use of force, my advice to any officer now is to not use force and get out of the job completely.
I’ve seen officers that avoid conflict have long careers, drawing money for nothing, while I’ve seen good officers that challenge criminality and use proportional force when necessary, get injured for life or are wrongly targeted by managers looking to have a CV that shows they have reported on other officers.
This !!
Only police we'll have left in a few years are twitter nannies
This seems to be the case in most professions, in the UK. Professions are all set up and geared towards keeping the worst type of people, who do the minimal in the job, and aren't prepared to put their head above the parapet..
The dropping of charges to the attackers was a key part of the provocation towards the riots. Fear and favour.
After the attack in the airport and the government refusing to hold the violent thugs to account. Why would anyone both with being a police officer?
Bother
An old friend of mine who had an excellent working record and had received medals from the work he did as a policeman, he was a good policeman, left because he was sick of the politics. He said being told that they had to write their preferred pronoun on a white-board everyday was the last straw so he left the force.
I have a mate in the West Midlands Police.
He's left now.
Treated like crap.
Made feel like being a native British heterosexual male was wrong. Having to carry female and BAME colleagues who were lazy, weak, cowardly and useless...he was an armed officer required to work around the country on serious crime. Away from home they had shit conditions, barracks style, whilst female and Muslim colleagues had their own rooms and ensuite facilities.
He'd had enough as have most of his mates.
@@eleveneleven572 The problem is the good ones who have lots of experience and working knowledge are leaving and so not sharing experiences and advising the new ones to develop them. Its just a different form of de-funding the police. Marxists don't like those who follow the law, they like Brownshirts.
Bit like my job then being told that I need to embrace pregnant men 😂😂😂
@eleveneleven572 some are incapable of doing their job they are so fat
I have more respect for cops that leave the job than stay in it a be a political puppet. Police forces are a joke now.
No charges for the Manchester airport incident no prison nothing.
The problem's doesn't lie with the public criticizing the police it's not prosecuting criminals who attack them or giving them the sentences the crime disserves, not prosecuting the Manchester airport thugs sends a message to people of the same disposition the public aren't complaining about the police using firearms, it's two tier policing and prosecuting people for hurty words, this is just an attempt by Mark Rowley conflating two different issues in an attempt to shut the public up, the problem lies with him and his organisation.
Totally allowed under British law.
Racial and Religious Hatred act 2006.
29JProtection of freedom of expression
Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.
I think you are missing the point: the whole issue lies with the CPS. It would seem that, if they don't have signed confessions from the criminals, accompnied by a copy of their birth cerificate, mortgage docs etc, they will not bring charges. Just watch some of those Police programmes on Channel 5 etc where you can see toe rags arrested for all manner of offences and count how often the programme will end with "no charges were brought".
@@scousedavies565 I don't disagree with your post, Rowley blames criticism from the public as one of the reasons officers are handing in their firearms, i stated that has nothing to do with or why the public are criticizing the police has an whole.
Because being told to target the British public, while letting foreign criminals go, is disgraceful!!!
Letting foreign criminals go is the Gov't, not the police.
literally doesn't happen, nationality is irrelevant when making an arrest.
@@neonwired4978 Your either blind or paid to say that.
The goal is to create division and chaos and it's working.
@@neonwired4978in theory yes.
In practice... very much no.
Two tier policing is a very real thing.
Im a retired law enforcement officer, and part of my duties were to serve as a firearms instructor and manager of our firearms and use of force training program.
When officers become concerned that they will be the targets of highly politicized investigations and even prosecutions, should they be required to discharge their firearm in the performance of their duties, they are not focused on the situation at hand.
That is extremely dangerous . Not just for the officers involved, but the general public and bystanders.
The use of force, whether it be open hands, closed fists, batons, tasers or firearms, requires split second decisions. It is very easy to look back after an incident, and critique the officers harshly. Yet none of the critics where there or involved in the dangerous situation. Being an armchair quarterback, after the football (American) game is a national pastime here.
If you are a small, 5' 2", female officer, who has just been beaten to the ground and bleeding from a briken nose, i guarantee you that there are two immediate concerns running through that officer's mind: 1; am i going to make it home tonight and are my partners going to as well, and 2; if this guy gets ahold of my firearm, both the officers and the nearby public are in deadly danger.
They must be free to act in a manner, commensurate with their training, which ends the violent situation in the quickest and safest manner.
If that officer is lying there wondering whether or not they'll be prosecuted or lose their job, they will hesitate to act, and the incident will only get worse.
Police departments are obligated to insure that their officers receive the best training possible, then allow them to do their jobs free of concern as to whether or not their department will back them up. The real fact is the 99.9 % of police officers in civilized, western nations, are honest, well intentioned people, who do a thankless and dangerous job for what amounts to very little money.
Rowley has brought this upon himself by being totally unclear in his policing approach , long overdue for the sack with loss of pension rights
I dont blame them for quitting. With the recent Manchester airport issue as well, it seems the police themselfs, the law and MPS dont support the police. In the same breath they are still protecting the very people who dont support them. I worked in mental health and I got punched, kicked, bitten. We were encourged to tell the police for record sake but all the police said was "well its kinda your job to be hurt like us"
I dont know why or when we decided violence towards people trying to help is ok?
If people like you are working in mental health it’s no wonder the mental health system in this country is completely fked.
police aren't mental health specialists, what do you want them to do?
@neonwired4978 I don't think you understood... If you read it you would of known I wasn't asking them to "solve" mental health issues. Just that their attitude of violence towards people who help society has changed to include that it's "ok" ....as in the police that spoke to me didn't see it as a big deal or a crime if the public lash out at people who work with the public. Ie: nurses, HCAs bus drivers, servers or even themselves. Why would police even think/say that?
@@abr32155 I dont think its anyones job to be assaulted by default? It can be a reality of a job for sure but the Police, secruity or army is a very diffrent role to a healthcare worker who is getting attacked just as much if not more often and then being told "thats part of your job" when we complain to the Police or public. Most HCA's who get attacked get fired btw, cant move the violent paitent so just fire the HCA, dime a dozen anyhow. I know many who have been scarred for life via violent actions and "nothing" is done about it.
Edit: might of misunderstood you comment, I get what you mean now. So sorry if it came off a bit overly argumentative
Who’d be a Copper in these PC times. Criminals have the full weight of the law behind them whilst the police are fully exposed. Idiot Politicians.
Increasing people aren’t being police officers I spoke to my local officer who’s tutoring a new guy to find out to my horror the new guy was part of a class of 30 out of which only 5 passed out and are now in the streets ! 1 didn’t even turn up on the first day and when called said he wasn’t interested any more Reason unknown 4 failed the training course and were dismissed or made to do it again 1 was pregnant and although she finished most of the training will have to return later to finish the course but what was most disturbing was that 19 resigned before they completed training because they had received better job offers or changed their minds about policing ! One of those who resigned an ex army bloke decided that he would rather go abroad and serve in the Australian police who were offering him a job and help getting him and his family though immigration than serve in the British police.
@@travis9062856 very interesting reply thank you , and I have to say I’m not at all surprised
Obviously because of the two tier legal system .politicians aren't bothered because they will always have their own security team looking after them at taxpayers expense.
It’s a huge responsibility carrying a firearm and a lack of support from senior officers make it very unattractive to serving officers
If someone that had been arrested decided to make a complaint against the Police, It was always policy to deal with the offenders first (by way of court proceedings) and later deal with the complaint. Otherwise, every person being arrested would make a complaint in an attempt to delay being charged/bailed to court. The ones that did make complaints soon realised that their delaying tactics were futile and they would usually drop the complaint.
My eldest stepson had a career in engineering but always wanted to be a police officer. He stuck it for 5 years and towards the end he would not approach an ethnic minority without the direction of a senior officer. They always pulled the race card and he would have no support from senior officers. Totally disillusioned he left and returned to engineering and the force lost a good officer.
I have great sympathy for plod on the front line as they have little or no support from their seniors.
Very true, I served in the 70s wouldn't join now or want any of my children to join. My daughter has had 3 friends leave totally disillusioned. There's absolutely no support from the top, they just get thrown under the bus.
I would pull the race card too as an ethnic minority because I have had numerous racist encounters with aggressive racist police officers before. Stereotypes exist for a reason and you racist plod who have been investigated and have been found “institutionally racist” are the reasons why the job is not very attractive.
And you should stop making excuses for your police’s reputation of harbouring extreme violent racists and address the problem and get them out of the force and maybe everyone will stop hating you.
What a stupid person , engineering to police.....
@@AKMilli-sn4nxah look someone who's not confident with their colour. Your problem sweetie not my fault 🙄
The risk doesn’t lie with carrying firearms, the risk lies with Starmer and his violent immigrant invasion.
Erm I can't stand Starmer and his [far] right wing labour party. But this immigrant thing didn't start with Starmer.
@@bigbasil1908 Of course not, he has just been handed the reins. They are all acting as puppets of the WEF. It's not just Starmer, it is EVERY Western country (bar Hungary which is being fined huge amounts of money for refusing to bring in these mostly young fit men). I can only assume that this is for nefarious purposes, my bet that they'll soon appear wearing UN blue helmets to enforce restrictions on us leading to Agenda 2030.
I'm sure our 'new citizens' will be more than happy to join the force and carry firearms, so we will all be kept safe.😂
@@bigbasil1908 brainwashed twat,
Wait, Who was in power for the last 14 years? I personally can't stand him, But It has next to zero to do with Starmer, And if you tried to think past what the DM tells you, You may remember the same firearms offers that are leaving, did their paper work to leave over a year ago under the Tories.
Rowley need s to be removed from office, this is week disgraceful behaviour
Not to worry, the government has tens of thousands of fighting aged males waiting to pick up the gauntlet.
That's the idea.
I came here to say exactly the same 💯
Well I have to agree with allenfauljlkner All fighting fit Mugrants. They say there is a reason for everything, even if you don't see it. Apart from Theresa May signing The Global Migration Compact.
And not a dirty white one amongst them.
They probably have their own weapons as well.
The public have no confidence in them, even they have no confidence in their own organisation?
That's the plan
Its corrupt to the core.
Nearly all woke don't have confidence in _any_ superior.
I don't think they do any more
I have done some work recently for a former police officer. He had various roles through his career, from walking the streets to the riot squad. He told me there is nothing that would make him go back, and many of the people he used to work with feel the same and have left or are in the process of leaving. Anyone with any common sense or scruples wants out.
Manchester Airport is a prime example😊
I don’t often comment however this is one of those times that warrants my view. Being a Police Officer today, is akin to being told that you’ve been selected for a free ticket on a completely save dive to see the Titanic on the mini sub Titan. Or being thrown into a river wearing lead boots with your hands tied. The woke society that we have allowed to take over has consequences, and this is one. Keep up the good work Dan 👌.
The upper echelons of the police expect a police officer, who just got punched repeatedly in the face and saw his female colleague get punched too, to act calmly in the situation. This is rubbish to the extreme and if I was putting my life on the line for someone who isn’t watching my back then I would do exactly the same.
Rowley helped create this mess
As did Dickless Cressida
Imagine having a job where if you do your job you lose your job, get slandered in the mainstream media and go to prison, I'm not surprised
Could the assaulted female officer not bring a private prosecution?
I think she would have to apply for permission to take any proceedings.
@@alannorthdevonuk763 anyone can bring a private prosecution. She'd be better suing them for compensation though - lower standard of proof.
@@tomriley5790 She would have to seek permission to take a private prosecution from her police authority. Yes, it's the beyond reasonable doubt but if she wanted to take a civil case with, as you point out, the balance of probability she would still need permission to go ahead. Also, the CPS can take over a private prosecution and offer no evidence.
she would be called a racist, be fired and charged for hurting the feelings of the crminals that attacked her.
absolutely no support from their chief of police OR our Home Secretary...who can blame them
They let criminals out so they can lock up keyboard warriors!
Because hurty words are so bad. Obviously worse than assault, rape and murder.
@WeAreAllDoomed-n5i The police don't "let criminals out" the CPS decide not to charge.
If this was science fiction you wouldn’t believe it
The problem is poor management and recruiting throughout the police force, in addition to the new thought police people do not trust the law makers, the law enforcers and the judiciary. Rowley and Khan are two of the main concerns for the population. Just remember Rowley attacking a journalist for asking a question.
You cannot have a law for one and anther for others.
if we are to expect the police to protect the public, first they must be able to protect themselves. The thugs at Manchester airport should be behind bars by now serving a very long sentence. If I was a police officer, I think I would have quit after that as well.
No, they dropped the charges and the family is now suing the police. Greater Manchester Police already paid renowned gang member and child molester (famous non consentual muscle feeler) £70,000 as an officer used the popular nickname for him "purple aki" as his name is difficult to pronounce, as he claimed calling him purple was racist because it referenced his skin colour. Expect at least these payouts to the attackers at Manchester Airport.
I said a long time ago. You dare not use your weapon as your investigated immediately. What's the point. Same in the military. Soldiers being prosecuted for catering out their duty as per training. I am speechless.
Unfortunately the system only protects the thugs. I used to taxi drive for a living, and I carried a 3-cell Maglite torch in the door pocket, principally for finding door numbers at night, but also as a self defence weapon. Fortunately I never needed to use it for this purpose, but a police officer friend once told me that had I used it as such, then no matter what the mitigating circumstances, it was likely I'd get charged with carrying and using an offensive weapon. As a torch it was perfectly OK. Go figure!
All about convictions.
All about anarcho-tyranny… it’s sinister
Yeah, maybe you should've carried something more serious. Certainly not legal advice, but you can diffuse a situation by clear demonstration of your 'tactical advantage' it can save your life, and you get a much less serious charge, if any at all. Certainly not a weapon, of course, but perhaps a large tool used to give extra leverage to install a spare tyre for example.
Worst comes to worst you get the same charge against you. But it only turns into a weapon when you need to use it, and in that case, the repercussions of not defending yourself should be higher anyway.
In UK law, any object is classed as an offensive weapon of you're carrying it to use as protection. *NEVER* say you're carrying it as protection. Always have an innocent and real use for it, and insist you picked it up as it was the nearest object to hand (e.g. you're in trouble if you go to the boot to get it. You're likely fine if it's next to you in the door pocket).
Higher management do not support the front line, My son a sergeant with the MET retired as soon as his 25 years was up as he said there was a total lack of support from the MET for himself and his team and to many pen pushers at the top.
Too
The commissioner also said that the IOPC take too long to investigate complaints against police and as a result stop and search has dropped by 50%.
I thought the Police had a mandate to fast process old ladies through the courts why hasnt the Mother been processed yet
They are not a police force , just policy enforcers
👌🏼
They are not allowed ti do that by their superiors.
Couldn't have put it better
Do you realize that "policy enforcers" is *EXACTLY* what the words "police force" mean?
Compare the words 'Policy' and 'Police'. Did you notice the similarities? It's not a coincidence.
Go woke , lose your armed officers.
Rowley is the last one to spout about been held to a different standard, been white and British we know all about it
Rowley needs to look a bit closer to home when determining who the "thugs" are.
Rowley the clown.
Yes. This government and institutions have become master manipulators of the truth‐-we basically have sociopaths in charge.
😂👍
Rowley should resign.
If I were that policewoman that had her nose broken I would be seriously considering whether I wanted to continue serving in the UK when it seems apparent that the government, police hierarchy and the judiciary don't have my back.
How those suspects have not yet been charged for assault on EW is beyond words. 2 tier Keir is government needs to fall.
They’re giving up their authorisation because they know Rowley and other senior officers don’t have their back.
So why is there no charges YET!!! SERIOUSLY HURT, ASSAULT!!!! Where is the justice for the police officers
I'm sure the government would tell you they are against violence against women, okay though for people of a certain ethnic background to break s woman's nose. I wonder what pressure I'd being brought on her by GMP to not sue under common law?
we all know why we just can't say anything online or face being arrested
And still nothing done about the airport attackers 🤬🤬🤬
What is happening has already happened to a country called North Korea.
And half of Africa. So welcome to african politics.
Nope. In NK when someone attacks you in order to Grape you, steal your possessions or just hurt you, the attacker goes to prison not you. If someone deliberately k**** your children, it's a death sentence for the murderer. (I have not heard about a single attack on kids but the law is there.) You are not labeled a hater and racist because you defended yourself. It would not even cross the NK authorities' mind to demand that you show love and compassion toward your attacker. There are many things we can criticize about NK but the statement above is 100% true. Also, what is the law in NK it used to be the law in the western countries, too.
North Korea doesn't have Pakistanis
@@vesnalazar5537Marxist-Leninist States like Cuba and North Korea aren't woke-leftists. Venezuela, the African countries and some others are the end result of the West if they do not purge leftist ideology from their countries.
I was a police officer for 8 years, it's one of the hardest jobs there is and it's even harder when your superiors do not support you.
I miss it, but I'm also glad I left. Even recruitment does not care about you, they chose people just to tick boxes instead of choosing the most capable people.
The police I miss no longer exists.
I mean, we really miss having peelers too. But they're starmer's yeomanry now, not police. No police by consent, police aren't civilians anymore by a long shot, and are political appointees. By rights they should be arrested for impersonating such.
Now you call the police and they say 'oh, that's an area controlled by a gang, you should be careful'
Right, I mean, I can call the boys and we can deal with it, but i'm sure the POLICE will be round THEN.
Result is, they are enabling crime gangs to rule our lives, and police are complicit in their crimes. We have no legal recourse whatsoever.
You have to 'make friends' with your local 'community groups' to have any degree of safety where I live. Maybe bake cakes for the motorcycle club and they know a guy who knows a guy. You know, back to the bad old days.
And it wouldn't be so bad if the police didn't still cost us a fortune, forbid someone leaves tyre marks on the local rainbow crossing, post on twitter or other high crime, but oh gosh how understaffed they are if there are violent attacks, gangs, theft, stalking, sexual assault that we've had the past few years.
Well. What they've reaped now, is that if someone attacks a woman round here, they end up 'going back to london' and they aren't seen again, no need to bother the busy police.
This isn't the world I wanted to be in or raise my children in. 'Police are there to keep you safe' is what I wanted to tell them, not 'chris next door is in the biker gang, they'll keep you safe'
Or, 'it's okay, that's the drug gang, they keep us safe from the child sex ring gang'
If the police went away, the front businesses and cronies would be smashed up like in the protests, all those open secret crime syndicates with ties to the council. And we'd probably have to pay more racket money of course.
Ex police deal weed in the posh areas, that's gone on decades. Maybe it's always been a bit like this. But it's not very secret anymore where I live.
All they want is female,black or Asian officers.😢
The main problem is and always has been....politicians.
Many are waiting for the result of this case. If any charges brought against officers, many will hand in firearms, but also many officers will leave.
we are also waiting to make sure the courts punish the actual offenders in this situation appropriately
Good
@@lisah9561they won't the law is not fit for perpouse.
@@crow4936The law is racist extremely in favour of anyone with yt skin. You are just angry some equality is slowly being phased in. You people will only be happy when the darkies are in chains working the field again. That’s what you really want to say.
@@lisah9561the charges were dropped and the perpetrators are suing. Handsome payouts to the violent offenders is our current expectation.
I'm not surprised. No charges. WTF. 😅
The man in charge of the met should be sacked because he's nothing but a activist who wants to keep the country in fear