NIETZSCHE ON: Amor Fati
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- Friedrich Nietzsche had a particular fondness for a concept called (in Latin) 'amor fati', a Stoic acceptance of one's fate and a commitment to embrace reality, in all its beauty and pain.
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“One of the strangest yet most intriguing aspects of Friedrich Nietzsche’s ideas is his repeated enthusiasm for a concept that he called amor fati (translated from Latin as ‘a love of one’s fate’, or as we might put it, a resolute, enthusiastic acceptance of everything that has happened in one’s life). The person of amor fati doesn’t seek to erase anything of their past, but rather accepts what has occurred, the good and the bad, the mistaken and the wise, with strength and an all-embracing gratitude that borders on a kind of enthusiastic affection…”
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The School of Life Amor Fati seems to be a life's goal. I have always tried to live by this, without ever hearing of it. But to accept ones life path is to feel satisfied in my opinion. That doesn't mean that you make poor choices, but by making ones initially that will leave you with no regrets.
It seems like an incredibly hard ability and concept to manage, to know when to accept thing that are beyond us and when to fight for what should be fought for.
I don't know if I understand the concept entirely but, as what I see it, it's something that we should learn to apply to our past and use it to try to be the better version of ourselves without working our minds too much about the results not being the ones we expected.
To be honest, it's a habit to stress about things we cannot change and it's incredibly hard to change a habit.
Thank you school of life for this amazing video.
I think this is why I like Byronic heroes so much: Good or bad doesn't matter as long as life is epic.
Thank You. I am writing a love story between a gay couple where I planned for amor fati to be the stories moral. This video will help me a lot. thank you
One of Neitzche's most powerful quotes is : Anything perfect is worth destroying, in fact it is desirable to destroy it, true beauty lies in imperfection.
From Beyond good and evil.
Hamza Saleem is anything perfect?
Why true beauty lies in imperfection?
Because it has the wisdom of showing you life as it is. A wounded face is a more human face
You know , that also is in the ‘eye of the beholder’
Some people would say ( Titanic movie is perfect) , some would say ( My House is perfect) , others would argue ( Paris is the perfect city).
And since nothing really IS perfect, it's a weird thing we keep aspiring to reach perfection. What do you think ?
What if you see a person young and innocent that you want to ruin ? Will it become more beautiful or just ugly ?
When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves
When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set yourself on fire
Carlos Rodríguez i like that
Did you come up with that yourself? If not, I'd be very interested in knowing the source
Devin Jones That's one of Viktor Frankl's quote from Man's search for Meaning
Apemanwithcalculator Revolution of one's own spirit indeed.
“I judge you unfortunate because you have never lived through misfortune. You have passed through life without an opponent-no one can ever know what you are capable of, not even you.” - Seneca
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Brilliant.
trust fund babies felt that
Powerful
How can you know yourself if youve never been in a fight?-Tyler Durden
Amor Fati: "Accept your fate which in fact is your life."
more than accept, love your fate. amor means love, so, love your life
Life affirmation. This ties into asceticism and the will to truth.
or lurv your farts
Combine this with metaphysics of Fatalism, one has powerful weapons to love the moment at all times.
@@uttaradit2 prob more insightful than Nietzsche comment. I mean, who doesn't love it?
Nietzsche's philosophy makes me stronger, it's like a psychotherapy
Nietzschean Philosophy "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." By Nietzsche’s own logic, if it (his philosophy) doesn’t kill you, then it must make you stronger.
Zarathustra was Freud's source for the overarching concepts of psychoanalysis.
maybe because it is proto-psychotherapy. Love of fate and will to power are very contradictory notions, but that is ok, it is just another version of the old adage, change what you can, accept what you can't. To be able to control one's passion, to tame one's fire is what psychotherapy is all about.
Totally agree 💜
Brad Parker, "Love of fate and will to power are very contradictory notions"
How so?
"If he's so smart, how come he's dead" - Homer Simpson
Gamma this made me laugh for the first time in two days lmao
Gamma Hahahahaha good one hahaha
“I think the saddest day of my life was when I realised I could beat my dad at most things, and Bart experienced that at the age of four.” - Homer Simpson
D Ay G me too
Pahahaaa
Amor Fati and Will to power. The shield and the sword..
Nick Diaz yesssss
Great analogy
Well said. My formula is to use the sword 3x then use the shield 1x. Then repeat.
so beatifully you described the two opposing ideas! Great!
Awesome!
Yes to the whole of life ... so so true ! I have no regrets, my life has been chaotic since the day I was born (alcohoolic father, my beloved mother died when I was a child, lived in various places, etc, etc, etc too long to tell it all) but I regret nothing. One day at 29 years old I had a dark night of the soul that lasted 3 years, it was awful and at the same time so enlightning... .life is a mystery with it's ugliness and beauty and from that moment on I accepted it all...I'm 45 now and I feel at peace in my heart...my love for knowledge and learning about myself and life has been my saviour...will never stop learning :) Love these videos about philosophers, keep on doing more pls ;-)
Know Thyself and you'll know the world thanks! I'm 32 and making some big changes this year.
Sausage King of Chicago!?
Thank you and I hope you have continued success for all our pain is worth something of value
Cry and you will cry alone, laugh and the world will laugh with you.
This is great.
This mindset along with stoicism in general has saved my life.
Happy for you! ☺️
Same
Funny you say that, Nietzsche hated the stoics in every bone of his body
@@etgarmoyal why?
@@oscarmoreno2585 he thought they did the same mistake religions did. religions pretended to know right from wrong (structured morality) which he very much disliked (aka beyond good and evil) - the stoics claimed that they managed to avoid such concepts (of black and white) by being oblivious about everything - but by doing that they did exactly what the religions did - they said whats good (being oblivious) and whats wrong (letting emotions affect you for example).
he also hated them because he thought (and rightfully so IMHO) that what they wanted to achieve was inhumane - you can't avoid getting sad if a family member you loved died and you can't avoid getting pissed when someone spits in your face
Life is only a long and bitter suicide, and faith alone can transform this suicide into a sacrifice.
- Franz Liszt
deep af
jet black Faith is not wanting to know what is true. -Nietzsche
the sickness that monotheism has turned your mind into.
Bull shit
yeh.. learning la campanella at superfine performance is sacrifice..
Nietzsche is the bravest of all thinkers that came to be known.
Felipe Bezerra The line between brave and edgy grows smaller as time goes on.
But yes, for his day, he was truly the edge master.
What is edginess but bravado. It's the Internet's insincerity that makes you assume that the bravery in edginess is hollow. Being on the edge IS being brave.
What about Max stirner
The bravest known.
That spot forever belongs to camus...
Today is my birthday. This is video is the best present I could recieve ..this year especially.
The past 3 years have been incredibly difficult for me, my brain started eating itself, I've never met a more horrible bully.
I've been trying to get myself out of it, to learn and read and listen to anything that could save me and teach me how to have healthier thoughts.
I fell in love with Hesse and Nietzche..two men who were far from perfect, who struggled a lot. But I owe them so much.
Thank you.
Happy birthday !
I've been reading philosophies since years, but one thing i learnt only through practice and observations. That some form of mind training exercises like breathing techniques or meditation is a necessity for our subconscious to respond to the logics we believe to be correct.
Oscar thank you so much for the suggestion! I'll look into it
Taylor Meek I sure will. And I love how you said "embrace misery"..I totally agree. Ignoring it, denying it or sweeping it under the rug only makes matters worse.
Navneet Yadav Thank you!!
You are right!! I've struggled with anxiety since middle school and breathing exercises always helped my body relax..at least for a moment
Happy birthday Ana :) ! .. you should congratulate yourself that you are able to identify your position first and have begun to question things. It should mark the beginning of long but a rewarding journey and everyday you are a more wiser , exposed to experiences and stronger and that is growth. Of all the things you could have done, you picked up Hesse and N. If these resonate to you , you already know it’s worth it. Easier said than done but keep going on , I am sure you will be proud of yourself one day and can see it all :) ..
Happy birthday again !
More Nietzsche videos please
1 in a billion mind
Or.. read the books
@@OOOOOOOKKKKKKK69 that's really is not as easy as it sounds. Nietzche's books are not easily understood by everyone
@@alirezademon well as N would tell you himself. Certain aspects of a message are lost in translation. Or summarization for that matter. Watching a video of a rocket taking off is awesome but it only barely conveys of how and why it is taking off.
Basically nietzche was trying to say “let it be”
André Muñiz if you do this for every video they upload, i will give you a like. Theyre too smart for my understanding
Rather "Let It Be!" "than let a it be.."
I hear he was a huge Beatles fan
Speaking words of wisdom..
"Ja-sagen"
I have dealt with depression and anxiety most of my life and I learned several years ago to forget the psychologist for help; go to the philosophers.
Exactly! I spent some time in therapy for anxiety disorders and learned the same. My therapist was very surprised by my progress, and in the end asked me why I did so well with my anxiety. I told her because I have philosophical understanding of reality.
@@zarathustra7974 which philosophers did you find helpful?
@@mryan4452 try Stoicism. Amor Fati is one of the key pillars of stoicism
@@buffaloblack3993 thanks really good timing I need to apply it tonight. V annoyed with something at work. Easier to understand the concept than apply it though, when the stressful thought just keeps coming back again and again like a washing machine lol. Sometimes I have mixed thoughts on the effectiveness of amor fati..
Good..... do not forget, though, psychology is partly based on the ideas of the big philosophers;-)..... and literature!
Let life flow, Don't force happiness
Brian you're everywhere!! nice videos tho
That's what I thought too, all of that could be summed up in only that 😉. Of course there are many layers to it, but I think that is a simple and easy way to put the message of the 7 min video 😁
What a simplistic and shitty conclusion for an unknown metaphysical direction of life that only Nietzsche devised in the most painful of moments.Short thinking takes you close to short living eternity.
Society doesn’t exactly make that easy, especially if you work in customer service.
Darth Ruin No. He means that after you have talked to the beautiful woman over and over again and she keeps rejecting you, and after you go to the gym day after day and nothing changes, it is pointless to be consumed by regret. In essence, you should see these failures as inevitable and embrace your fate.
My man nietzsche
Everytime I study Nietzsche I always think "man, I want that mustache".
But really I actually like this idea of amor fati, I feel like this a lot, great video school of life.
why do u like it,why should u LOVE your fate/life just because it was necessary that things happen just the way they did etc? I mean, I understand,and is logical,that you should ACCEPT them,you ofc shouldn't lament and regret about stuff etc;but why should you LOVE them ffs? doesn't make any sense
the way I understand it goes something like this (very short description)
love => self sacrifice => progress => overcoming one self
the opposite would be Cristian way of accepting your sins => confessing and getting absolution from the priest => no progress at all => you'r stuck where you were waiting for death and heaven
ergo.
you have to LOVE all the shit life sends your way because every shitty situation you find your self in is an opportunity for growth... just accepting it isn't enough...
bullshit
nice argument dude... lol...
thanks m8
So sad that he died a horrible way- alone, unrecognised, crazy and without love. So much brave for such a man to say "Amor Fati"
For him it wouldn't 4:00 be looked in a horrible or sad way; just fate of life and embracing the moment of it
i am 17, for the past few years ive struggled with some mental health issues brought upon by some 'not-so-nice' events. I remember when i'd first discovered Nietzsche, i fell in love with his teachings and they really helped me quite alot, i find myself going back to his work everytime im unsure, feeling down or simply need a reminder of why i am pursuing what i am, why i want what i want. Nietzsche taught me how to find that in myself, how to deal with things and how to find my own bliss within the turmoils life and isolation bring. (its quite annoying of me i'm aware) i show his work to all my friends & family & really anyone who will listen. huge idol of mine, his work made an incredible impact on my life and some of those i've shown his work to (most were like *side-eye*)
I’m 18 and I’ve been meaning to read Nietzsche’s work for like 3 years now… i know 😭 I just haven’t gotten around it somehow. Since you seem like to explain it to people, I wonder if you would wanna be friends and discuss that kind of stuff with me? :)
I’m also a young follower of his teachings, you’re meant for greatness never forgot that !
@@victoriasvetlana18 i’m only just seeing this but i’d love to!
I’ve just started reading his work now, I feel like it’s what I’ve been looking for this whole time
The artworks of Gustav Klimt that have been used in this video are exactly right on! Hats up for who selected them! 👏
This is my favorite genre of The School of Life videos.
Beautifully done. Thank you all.
There is a light, there is a darkness and we are apart of both - Amor Fati.
As I've become only recently aware of "amor fati" thru the lockdowns, TH-cam and this wonderful channel, I realized I've been embracing it since I was a kid. Just before Mom would spank me for not doing my chores, she'd declare, "You LOOOVE to suffer!" Somehow I accepted the term "long-suffering," likely because I romanticized it. Then I got hip to the Buddhists first, because they embraced suffering, via Peck's "The Road Less-Traveled." Decades later I began to tell myself, "Everything is EXACTLY the way it's supposed to be" to manage my expectations. It's great to have multi-cultural confirmations of a single idea of the human condition. I wish the world could live with ambiguity, impermanence, wisdom and patience... but that's the way it's supposed to be.
"By the time we learn to live, it is already too late."
True :(
Tell that those who are decades older than you... 😉
that's unfair when we born stupid and expected to have best life since then when we don't know how to live. it's unfortunate that I don't have wisdom since baby or understanding of life since baby so maybe if I have the knowledge I can be better person since then hahaha
"What happened, happened, and couldn't have happened in any other way".
Eternal recurrence
Same life over and over?
Your videos are therapy. This particular video is so necessary and so well done. Thank you.
It is only when we accept fate are we allowed to alter and become one with it.
-Kalki
I got over my breakup by Amor Fati, it took me literally 3 hours and the rest is history. This shit works!
That's fantastic!
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Sometimes I think this channel is able to read my mind, every new video I watch always relief the suffering and pain that I'm feeling at that time. I can't find words to thank you for this amazing job, please, keep it up.
Thank you so much The School of Life!!!! Recently I have been struggling with this moral dilemma of either accepting myself or trying to change for the better. Nietzsche's concepts resonated very closely to me.
INCREDIBLE GRAPHICS! The animations haven taken a huge step up on this channel.
Boethius, huh? He pretty much doesn't matter anymore.
"Sometimes, good enough is... good enough."
This idea was also talked about in one of his allegorical anecdotes. A deamon had appeared before a man and said "Once your life has ended, you will be thrown right back at the start of it, and be condemned to live it exactly as you did the first time, forever."
My textbook called this the "Eternal Return" and stated that only those who could laugh with glee upon such a statement had the balls to be considered supermen.
happy Sisyphus.
Funny thing is at least in my case I'm aware the eternal return isn't just allegory its actually happening I have a mode of being that's been playing itself out over and over again in different environments and different circumstances for the at least the past 5 years and that's likely all I wish to admit it to rather than the full duration of existence because its not a mode of being I wish to be.
Nietzsche called it the Eternal Reoccurrence
I simply love your videos, fantastic, amazing, pure poetry with a lovely voice representing some authors ideas... it is just great, this one is one of my favorites. Thank you
This video is definitely by far my favorite video in School of Life. It is like a master piece. Very beautiful. Thank you Alain de Botton for sharing this video with his beautiful voice and words.
Amor Fati was just Nietzsche’s version of “it be like that sometimes”
No its really „im glad it be like that“
not really! its more like "its like that sometimes, and for the better of it all!"
This is beautiful. To accept one’s own life, regardless of the good and bad moments in our narrative, is a wonderful concept.
This radical sense of acceptance of whatever was, is and comes ahead lays the foundation for a strong character and true self improvement. Thank you for this
I just love this channel.... thank you so so much!!!!
It is beautiful.
If you observe closely, the whole video was an absolute marvellous masterpiece. It had important and famous art pieces, sculptures and whatnot.
Not to mention the way succinctly explained the meaning of Amor Fati.
I am so moved by this video, I definitely vote it as one of the most beautiful videos on YT.
Thank you so much.
May God bless you and your team :)
Loving fate is more than trying to unconditionally enjoy our life's consequences.
The love of fate I see, is a symptom of loving making the right choice, regardless of the consequence but still striving powerfully and meaningfully towards the very best consequence conceivable.
Waited six long months for another philosopher dedicated video - THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
Wow! I follow you guys from Colombia (South America) and I wanted to thank you for this helpfull and very well narrated explanaition about so many topics, that are so usefull for human beings. Thank you very much again and a huge hug!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video. And for many others you have created and shared too.
Thanks for finally doing another Nietzsche video.
Thank you!!!
What a beautiful video! I love the ending especially!
I fell in love with 'Amor Fati's' phrase without fully knowing what it entails. I just know that it means the love of fate. This happened after I finally accepted to myself that I was suffering from High Functioning Depression. That my failings and toxic becoming were a mere part of the process. And I had to accept it in order to move on and carry living. Like a baggage I continuously carry and comprehend so that in time, I could finally heal. Amor Fati. To love life, bad or good.
I most enjoy when you examine an idea from one of the great philosophers. Your overview videos help to gather interest for the great thinkers, but the singular ideas that these men and women professed are so numerous and varied that some need an amount of time allocated to explaining them in order for the layperson to wrap their heads around them. Thank you for helping me to better understand "amor fati."
I have my own saying for when I regret something- "let cuts be scars"
How do you expect to stop bleeding when you keep picking at a cut? Long lasting scars serve as a reminder to yourself.
i really like that! I’m def using this pragmatically
I had to learn this lesson myself and often turn to his writings as a reminder, what a compelling inquiry this was!
I love Nietzsche. I really think he knew what this "life" was really about. And in the case of his madness.. It only persuades me even more. Thank you for the video! 💗
This is my favorite Nietzche videos. Every time I have a bad day, or something like that I will always come back to this video and this video always lighten my mood. This amor fati helped me through a terrible breakup, this video helped me when I was a loser and wanting to give everything up.
Thank you very much Nietzhce.
Thank you very much School of Life.
Much love from Myanmar
Hey past me and future me. It’s my birthday, and I always cry on my birthday and this video is useful for me again. Happy 22 lol. I’m useless fucking loser lol.
i was almost drowned in self pity and depression - then i was like let me watch this video again - i did and i always come back to it whenever i feel a slight feeling of depression
Thank you to School of Life! I love your videos!!!!!!
I'm surprised you guys are still doing these videos, yet glad too because I missed them.
"Despite knowing the journey... and where it leads... I embrace it... and I welcome every moment of it." - Arrival
Beautiful animation in this video!
Best video you've done in awhile. More videos on concepts please.
These are the videos I look forward to the most from the school of life.
One of the million reasons as to why Nietzsche is my idol, as he should be for many
You probably didn't read or understood much of Nietzsche if you made him your "idol".
once again, perfect and impressive cinematography! It is astonishing how much Nietzsche has in common with buddhism.
Vini Is Laif - I was reading through the comments to see if someone else noticed that this is a Buddhist concept - Acceptance. Thank You!
Not surprising seeing as Nietzsche based much of his thinking on the works of Schopenhauer who in turn had sourced much of it from the Eastern philosophies and religions and applied it to Western societies.
Nietzsche was opposed to buddhism, because similar to christianity, buddhism had an already finished moral set that did not allow for things like selfish behavior, he was more in line with viking and germanic paganism.
A great many western philosophical ideas of the past 2000+years seem to have always been present in the Buddha's teachings
And in that way a lot in common with Christian and Taoist thoughts as well.
Beautiful animations and thank you so much for all your videos
The only two sentences you needfor a happy life: Amor Fati & Memento Mori
And biscota y capuccino
And Hakona matata
I have a dog tag on me, that says:
Amor Fati.
Memento Mori.
Carpe Diem.
😉
@@Zett76 Best dog tag!
@@Zett76 Perfect. My car skidded off the freeway today and tomorrow is my birthday. Uncanny how your dog tag found me at precisely the moment it would be useful. Thank you.
I am going to be 88 years old in 2 weeks. I have no regrets. I have practice amor fati all of my life. I love everything and everyone.
Still here?
Loved this video. I'm really glad it highlights the dichotomy between his ideas of radical acceptance and willpower. We need to look at our past as a whole, good and bad, as just that... our past. The bad moments were lessons or trials for us to learn from and overcome. The good are to remind us the beauty of the world we live in. It's honestly a very stoic and Eastern view on life.
Really nice take. Sometimes I wonder and imagine how the world would be just by living on stoicism and virtues. Thank you for sharing school of life.
Excellent summary.
This is how i live my life... I couldn't be happier
in my opinion, this is the greatest and most transformative and appliccable of nietzches ideas
Yes, few seconds in and I already knew this is the best advice anyone could get.
Mann, I wanna cry!
I am Azriel ok.. Do
I love the flexibility within the concept of Amor Fati. But like all concepts I think it would be counter productive to force it upon yourself. I like to think of it more like a filter to perceive life through if it serves you, which it probably will most of the time. At the same time leave out the idea of "I must, should, have to, need to love my fate!"
Well done, thank you for a sympathetic and insightful analysis of his writings and biography.
I keep coming back to TSOL videos whenever I need to figure out what's happening in my life. And I always find an answer.
If only I had bought Bitcoin. ;)
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If only I didn't dry my cat in a microwave oven. RIP Schrödinger, when observed you were indeed dead :(
You still can! ;)
Buy Litecoin!
alt coin bro.
If only I was born in USA in arich family... Where I could not see any tear in my eyes but smile all time
yet another amazing video, in the unique school of life style!
Cheers!
His voice is so soothing and calming. It makes me sleepy.
The tree that never had to fight
For sun and sky and air and light,
But stood out in the open plain
And always got its share of rain,
Never became a forest king
But lived and died a scrubby thing.
The man who never had to toil
To gain and farm his patch of soil,
Who never had to win his share
Of sun and sky and light and air,
Never became a manly man
But lived and died as he began.
Good timber does not grow with ease:
The stronger wind, the stronger trees;
The further sky, the greater length;
The more the storm, the more the strength.
By sun and cold, by rain and snow,
In trees and men good timbers grow.
Where thickest lies the forest growth,
We find the patriarchs of both.
And they hold counsel with the stars
Whose broken branches show the scars
Of many winds and much of strife.
This is the common law of life.
Good Timber
by Douglas Malloch
GIMME THAT NIETZSCHE! AWW YEE
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Nietzsche's work has completely transformed my life.
This now has become my #1 philosophical quote, thank you for explaining it
Neither fortune or suffering are morally derived
Let's face it, dude had the most epic mustache of all time.
These are such amazing videos!
For a long while I thought there was something wrong with me for never wanting to change my past despite all my mistakes and failures. It's good to know someone like Nietzsche shares this sentiment.
Friedrich Nietzche did not create the concept of "amor fati." it comes from the Roman stoics, nearly two thousand years prior to Nietzche.
I think that when your mind starts knawing and you can't sleep, I forces you to accept Amor Fati in order to be able to sleep again.
This video has helped me so much! Thank you!
Everything that has happened to me up to this point I’m my life has shown me the future I dream of now. Every moment was a lesson that taught me the possibilities I have accepted in my past and propel me toward greater ones in my future.
This is why I , as a pre-med student, plan on studying Philosophy as a major, rather than a practical STEM based major!
Gabby Rath just don’t forget to study for the mcat lol
Gabby Rath it does keep you sane mate. Med and pre med has the highest rate of depression and self harm... Gotta keep focused and stoic or else it could go wrong so easily.
As a STEM major, I hate it when people shit on philosophy just because it's a liberal arts major. Philosophy is an incredibly valuable major, not just at a personal level, but also economically.
Philosophy teaches you how to think, and a person who can think is dangerous--a force to be reckoned with. As a matter of fact, philosophy majors have one of the highest average IQs across all majors, and although IQ doesn't necessarily mean everything, it does give some credence to the fact that philosophy is a deep and intriguing study requiring strong logical reasoning skills and the ability to interweave vicissitudes of nuanced information.
Trey S. Honestly, I agree that philosophy is very useful in a very personal way, to develop yourself and stand more firmly in this world full of dangers. However, I don't agree on the fact that it helps you think in a way that could (socio-economically, if that's even a word in English) help you forward. There are way better majors for thinking goal-oriented (e.g. Mathematics studies are all based around problem solving) , which, in this society is of the utmost importance. I could be wrong about this of course, since I haven't actually deeply explored the realms of philosophy
philosophy isn't about self-help gurus as TSOL makes it look like, but I'm sure you're gonna love it
So basically it's Bobby McFerrins' philosophy, "don't worry, be happy."
Fuck yeah, man! You’ve got it! 😀
PHILOSOPHY SERIES IS BACK! I'm happy for that.
It inspires some of the topics I cover on my channel, you do these videos wonderfully, and I hope to see more of them!
Thank you, i needed that.
I use to love Amor Fati, but now I take issue with a few aspects of it, or at least interpret it in a few ways I don’t like when put up against the backdrop of the rest of Nietzsche’s philosophy. Firstly, while it is good to live your life without regrets at the least, if not as if one planned it this way, it is even better to have some regrets which one regards as lessons. That to me is a way of “looking backwards”, or having a historical view of life as he calls it in Untimely Meditations. (Also, Nietzsche never seemed to me one to follow his intuition to its fullest, but that’s unrelated speculation). Secondly, I do think not only can we look to the past in a healthy way (and reframe it in our mental model as a way of overcoming inhibiting trauma), we can “look forwards” and shape our future based on our perceptions of our current needs. It is almost “ahistorical” in a way, as Nietzsche says, because one manifests a future divorced from the patterns of the past. And that’s not to say to always live one’s life looking forward and backwards in this way. One should also have a “supra historical” mode, which is sort of like living in the present and what this Amor Fati concept illustrates, in my view. But it’s a balance. Regret and longing are important feelings that one should not discount simply because they can cause suffering. They can also be great tools.
It sounds to me that your thoughts are very close to those of Nietzsche (as i understand them). Amor Fati doesn't mean having no regrets in the simple sense of the words - it means to love your mistakes and your failures instead of resenting them and simply ignoring/forgetting them.
If regret is feeling angry in the present because something you did in the past, then Amor Fati is loving your past self and forgiving his mistakes.
That's my take on the subject.
Regret and longing are a tricky thing! It can tell us how to improve ourselves but it can also needlessly torture us. It's hard to tell what is and is not necessary about our desires and outlook on past behaviors.
alaskaoalaska For me, a useful tool for that can be found in Buddhism by not identifying as thought and by taking on a non-self view of the mind. When you can detach from the sensation of thought, you can much easier evaluate good regret from bad, as well as longing and all the other double edged swords of human experience.
alex mir I suppose you have a good point. It just depends on how one defines what Nietzsche means when he says “looking backwards” and “looking forwards”. I do see the merits of your interpretation. It’s just that I always go back to looking at Nietzsche’s understanding of suffering vs other schools of thought and it leads me back to my own problems with it.
novembrine29 Bhuddism, like Christianity seems to take the easy way out in that it encourages escapism. I'm with Nietzsche in his critique of both as a rejection of the only world that ought to have value. I find it better to embrace and interact with the painful existence rather than lose oneself in an attempt to lessen the pain.
Not to be confused with "amor fatty"...
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This is simply excellent. Thank you.
Wow, this video was beautifully written and designed
1:12-1:23 "Looking away should be my only negation."
Do you want this guy as your friend? Think about it.
Perhaps, if I’m being that friend, I’m really saying «move on from here». From the present. Embrace the *now*.
If you've never felt like it, you're still too moral or religious to fully appreciate Nietzsche and i'm sincerely sorry for you