Mossberg 590A1 Review: Still the Ultimate Tactical Pump Shotgun?
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- In this episode of TFBTV, @JamesReeves gives you a long-overdue review of the Mossberg 590A1. The Mossberg 590A1 is known for its durability: This shotgun has been tested and proven in some of the toughest environments, including military trials. It can handle a wide range of ammunition types and conditions, and it has a smooth and reliable action that makes it easy to use even in stressful situations. The Mossberg 590A1 is versatile as well: Whether you need a home defense shotgun or a tactical shotgun for law enforcement use, the Mossberg 590A1 is good to go. However, with semi-auto shotguns like the Mossberg 940 Tactical and Beretta a300 Patrol approaching the same price point as this top of the line pump, is the Mossberg 590A1 still worth your attention? Especially the Vang Comp "Standard" edition James reviews in this episode - at $1,000 MSRP, should you just get a semi-auto instead? James opines today on TFBTV.
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Love my 590A1 Retrograde. Looks awesome, built like a tank, accurate, shoots basically any ammo.
Definitely on my “to buy” list! Gotta get a bayonet too!
The 590A1 Retrograde is on my wish list.
I’m not even a shotgun guy but my retrograde was too cool to pass up
The retrograde is a sexy beast, I think every man should have one.
A man of taste.
Thanks for sharing this, we appreciate you guys helping get the name Vang Comp in front of the next generation of shotgunners. Great shooting, James and Ryan! Let's do an SBS next...
The best shotguns are short and Vanged. It is known
An SBS? What is that? And yes TFB did a great job getting your company name out there.
@@amiracleone2803 SBS = short-barreled shotgun
Hey! Love your work, but I'm curious: how much louder (*to people around you, like at an indoor range) does the Vangification make a shotgun?
Additionally, as an SBS owner, I definitely agree that should be next on the docket.
Do a 870 sbs with that sweet mid barrel red dot mount y’all offer!
I have an old Mossberg my dad bought used in the early 60s. It shoots and feeds anything and to my knowledge has never jammed. He left it to me and my son will get it when I'm gone.
My grandpa sold a a 30-30 lever he used a lot in his youth. One of his biggest regrets was not passing it on. He doesn't even remember why he sold it lol.
This is the way.
I have an old 1100 that was my grandfathers, roughly same time frame. That things seen some neglect over the years but still runs like a champ.
We want more torture tests James
Maybe James should be torture tested.
@@Aperson156 he’d enjoy it way WAY too much
Using his reasoning the “Modified” M4 would pass with flying colors also…. Just saying
@@davism131 biden cult much?
This
I just bought a 590A1 and was surprised at how much they’ve gone up in price but definitely still worth it to me. Nothing beats the feeling of having a reliable pump shotgun.
Yeah the 1301 went up $300. All thanks to inflation.
Grabbed my 590a1 for 400 bucks years ago 200 off. Bought it not knowing how damn good it was. Great find.
I know…the 590 is my only shotgun. Don’t feel the need for another. I love the mechanics of a proper tube loaded pump action 12 gauge with a 20 inch cylinder bore. Not a fan of semi auto shotguns. Think they’re overkill and picky with shells.
@marksullivan2978 same here, 400 bones. Took it home, popped on a magpul forend and rattle-canned camo'ed it to protect the finish.
Got mine 3 mos ago, used, with a USMC tube stock for $360
I own a 590A1 just like this one, but I have the optic rail with ghost ring sight on it. It's a great shotgun and I figured buy once cry once.
Well-said. I bet there's still room in the safe to cry again.
@@VangComp I might need a bigger safe.
Yeah that’s a shotgun you keep to pass down. Truly is a beauty or a pump.
Heck yeah man! I I just got myself a 590a1 with the magpul stock! Can’t wait to test it out
I just bought a Maverick 88, and I love it. I wish it had some extra features like the 500 and 590, but it's still a great gun.
it's about half the price
@@BiffBuffchest 1/4 the price
I suggest looking into Defender Tactical for their minishell adapter. Turn your Maverick 88 into a 590S without the price tag. Installation is easy, no special tools needed.
The maverick may not be as robust when it comes to taking heavy abuse, but it's plenty robust and reliable for the vast majority of shooters out there. I've had them all, the 590 series really doesn't feel any different in terms of operation, but it was heavier and it definitely felt robust. Imo, there's only a few other shotguns that gives a 590 a run for it's money in terms of reliability and durability, a pre '07 870, the Ithaca model 37 (hope I got the model correct, but it's their version of the riot shotgun/police model). Obviously the military ended up choosing the 590 and LE agencies went with the 870 while a few departments did go with the Ithaca.
@@teawithaura just curious - what have you found minishells good for?
I have a 590 retrograde, I no longer have no problems with low T.
"I no longer have no problems with low T." HAHAHAHA
Back in 1989 I was fresh out of college and had my first apartment in a so so neighborhood. Someone tried to break in one night. He didnt make it in, but I thought I need a weapon for home defense. At the gym the next day I spoke to a friend who was a prison guard and he suggested a Mossberg 500. he told me Service Merchandise was selling a 500 that came with both 16" and 20" barrels for $99.00. That same day I went and bought the shotgun. Even though I have bought several guns since then, the 500 is still my bedside go to home defense weapon. It has never failed.
Yes!! My friend and I also purchased 500s from Service Merchandise around the same time, 1990 I think it was. Came with two barrels, classic walnut furniture with the corn cob pump, heat shield and a pistol grip, All for $99. Sick deal even back then. Because I was using it for home defense, I installed the pistol grip, switched to a synthetic forearm and stored the wood furniture. I kept the 500 in that configuration for decades until recently, when I decided to switch back to the retro trench gun look. Reinstalled the wood furniture with the heat shield and wow, Such a beautiful shotgun. Fell in love with it all over again. Thanks for igniting that memory of Service Merchandise, my friend whose now passed, and our Mossys.
My uncle handed me a single shot break open 12 ga with a 32” barrel when I was 9. Light as hell and kicked like a mule. I still have that gun.
I had one with a 36" barrel 😂
Save some barrel for the rest of us!
Hell of a bird gun!
Love the 590A1 - indestructible and has survived many rough hunting trips. Never had an issue with it
How well does the 590A1 pattern buckshot? I'm looking to get a 590 Barrel Variant that takes adjustable chokes. 👍👍
@@joeruiz4010 Honestly haven't shot many shotguns in my life but I don't think it's any better than a good quality shotgun. What makes this gun awesome is the sheer density of it. It's a tank and will literally last forever
@@joeruiz4010 decently. I've only ever shot at 20 yards and in. But I figure federal flight control would be pretty huntable.
@@waholoopesorry74 would you recommend a 20” 590a1 retrograde? Looking for a do all shotgun and it seems like it fits the bill.
@@JohnnyYK I don’t own a retrograde but they look amazing. I’m sure the quality is just as good as the normal A1
I bought a '590 M-lok' for $480 not long ago and I love it. Hell of a deal for a 9 shot, 20in barrel with sights and swappable chokes.
Cool!
Yeah that’s a great shotgun…and especially for that price. I’m happy with my 20 inch barreled 590 and see no need for a semi automatic 12 gauge.
“Just buy a double barrel shotgun and fire a few blasts outside”
Nevermind you’re in an apartment in New York
“Just buy a 22. A 9mm blows a lung out.”
I hate ignorance
they hate you more.
Just buy F-13 jets and cornpop missiles, Jack.
@@herknorth8691 may as well. We gave all of that to Afghans
I am certain that the Presidential security detail has just one double barreled shotgun... --Old Guy
pedo pete needs his 10% …c’mon, man! FJB
Got a 590 A1 SPX came with pic rail, ghost ring sights, blade protected fiber optic front sight, and M4 bayonet for 750 added magpul stock and forend oh yeah and the barrel was ported from factory! What a beast
Back in the stupid "panic" of the year 2000, I bought a 590a1. Obviously didn't need it that night. Soooo glad I bought it. Its a reliable faithful beast!
Great vid guys! Cannot wait for full on summer reviews and the return of the short shorts!
That was a great investment.
Have a 590A1. Just bought a regular 590 and threw the metal parts on it and it balances better in my opinion compared to the A1 and I love the dark black matte blued finish more. Can’t go wrong with any 500 variant
I own a 500 ATI Scorpion. It’s a pretty good deal from the factory, but it needs some small upgrades to really shine.
From your comment I assume that the regular 590 has the same barrel profile than the 500s, and not the extra thick that comes with the 590A1. Good to know the 590 balances better, so I’m not losing much with a 500 (there isn’t a heavy barrel option for them, as far as I know).
I agree with completely with your last sentence.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 yea the regular 590 is a thinner profile barrel than the A1. The heavy barrel is a Navy requirement, and I find it too nose heavy and unnecessary
@@nickpethan3083
Exactly, unless we're running through a battleship and risking hitting the barrel hard on some steel, the extra heavy barrel profile is not required, but the extra weight does help with muzzle rise when shooting in comparison to the lighter profile if it's not ported.
@@toddk1377 this, exactly.
My first gun purchase was a Mossberg 500 in 2015.
I still have it today and wouldn't even consider selling.
I named her Barbara, and she's my favorite gun.
That's a good start! Congrats.
I own a Winchester 1300 Defender (used by military and law enforcement when it first came out). I installed an Spec Ops up-folding grip stock (built in spring-recoil -- 40% reduction in felt recoil). $150 pawn shop find several years ago ... 7+1, It's a keeper.
None of them left after the beer times.
I deployed to Iraq with a well-worn m500 in 2005 but I've owned a m590 since the late 1990s. Bought new for around $300 with ghost ring and the speed feed stock and standard pump fore end. Have used it a lot for hunting in the rain and snow. The finish still looks good. Mossberg pumps are incredibly reliable. The only problem I've ever had was with Mexican short case slugs with extraction. Cases rims were too thin.
You can buy an adapter for like a few dollars.
I got the 590 with 8 + 1 capacity, and set it up with tactical forehand and buttstock and the shotgun is a tank that spits out anything it is fed. I love the reliability of the Mossberg true time tested piece.
What exactly did you switch to? Thanks
Other than rate of fire and reliability, there's one big difference between pumps and semi-autos, and that is the use of short shells.
For defensive use cases specifically, the short shell packs enough power to make it lethal without being overwhelming, and gives you a 10 round capacity.
So really you should do a 590S 20in (13+1) vs. maybe a 940 pro tac.
Thought the same thing regarding the 590S but it doesn’t have the heavy barrel…
@@tomorender6479 Fair, but I personally find it overrated, probably better for semi-autos and mag feds imo. It's not like you see tons of people having barrel issues with the regular 500s and 590s.
@@JackTagar personally I don’t see the point of short shells. There is virtually no scenario where you will find yourself in need of more than 8-10 2-3/4 slugs or buckshot. Also you are sacrificing shot count and velocity for capacity (something the 12 gauge just doesn’t need). Also the heavy barrel soaks up recoil way better.
Defender tactical makes an upgrade for the regular 590 that allows use of shells ranging from shorty's to 3 inch shells. They have a video on TH-cam about it.
We're going to need more ammo manufacturers on board before the short shells are plentiful enough for us to recommend. Need a 00B or 1B load, no more of this duplex B.S.
I loved my 590 with the ghost ring sight. Also had the M-16 bayonet mount. Man that gun was great with slugs too. I sold my high power shoulder fired guns after 2 neck surgeries. Thank God for .22s
Great video! Love my 590A1! Had it for about 10 years, have run it through some high speed classes, and it never disappoints. OTOH, I don't discriminate against my semiautos. The Beretta 1301 is incredible, as you have amply demonstrated, and my couple of 930's are also solid and reliable.
The 940 tactical deserves some more love. It's a machine.
Benelli SuperNova enjoyer here. I originally wanted a 590A1, but missed out on the pre-covid normal price of around 400 dollars. When they shot up to 700+ I just opted to spend that same money on a SuperNova and have been enjoying that purchase ever since. Only issue with the thing is that there is virtually no aftermarket for it whatsoever and with the Mossman 5000 series being around since the dawn of time, everyone makes everything for it.
i just got a 590A1 leo trade in for 350!
I've got a Supernova Tactical. I really like it!
Paid 650 for my 590 retrograde
@@minonuno3041 Leo trade in 590a1 - $370
$40 ship
$30 ffl
$69 GG&G mlok barrel clamp
$35 grovtec qd sling swivel/ rear stock qd(2 pk)
$110 Andys leather 1.25 Rhodesian chestnut.
$71 heat shield/two sling swivels
Man thats rough. Im only like $100 more than you for a fully built A1retro clone.. Used wood furniture off my 500ab riot and put the speed feed stock on the riot.
Ordered it from kings firearms. They drop a batch of LEO trade in 590a1s cheap every month
I carried a mossberg in the military, and the one I own now is the exact same. Neither has the extended tube, they’re 5+1. Built like a tank. Legend has it that the heavy barrel was required by the Navy because they required it to still be functional if it got slammed in a steel watertight door.
Nice! Extenders are just there to make up for OEM deficiency. Mossberg gets the factory tube length right.
I watched this video a couple of days after purchasing my own 590A1 as my first firearm. Glad that my opinion that this shotgun is fantastic has been reinforced. I love it. Like you did, I subjected it to all kinds of ammo and it worked flawlessly. Didn’t have the brackish water available at the time, but perhaps I will give it a go at a later range date. Thank you for the video!
I have the 590 A1 marine version Mariner version. I'll probably have it till the day I die. That's all I can say about that
Nice!
I have 4 590s and I darn love em up
Awesome! Send us a barrel and you'll love it more!
I will NEVER get rid of my 590A1 20"! Nothing has yet to surpass the LEGEND
Nice!
Beretta 1301 superior in every way.
@@elitetrader5468that’s nice. Not interested in your semi auto here. Go be fan boy on some beretta video.
@@bruiserbong4001 Hey you are poor, I get it. Enjoy being slow with your archaic pump gun.
@@elitetrader5468I own both 590 A1 and 1301, so let’s be real with each other. You’re probably not John Wick. If you’re in some sort of combat someone with an AR/AK is going to wax you 9 times out of 10 at most distances, even with slugs in a shotgun. Even for home defense shotguns aren’t ideal for most people. Most people’s best use for a tac shotgun is probably either as a range toy or popping off at hogs. Feeling some sense of superiority for spending ~$600-700 more for negligible return is just a sad flex.
It’s definitely a badass rendition of the 590 platform. But for the price I’m leaning towards the 940 Tactical
Thanks for the compliment. 940 is good, too.
Buy both!!!!!!
@@VangComp can we buy a stand alone barrels for our old 590's and other shotguns?
I love my 590. Heavy barrel, ghost sights, bayonet lug, cut for accuchokes. I added a heat shield and magpul pump and stock, ahh I love it so much.
Sounds great.
I built a Winchester 1300 for Heavy Metal 3 Gun (faster than a 590) back in like 2008. It had a 24" Vangcomp barrel on it. Ported just like this and also got their forcing cone lengthening package and OMG what a difference in recoil and muzzle climb. I had the same experience with Vangcomp back then that James is having now. Nice to hear they're still in business making great shotguns greaterer.
Thanks man! We appreciate it. Yessir, 33 years this July and we're still going at it. Glad you've had a good experience.
@@VangCompive only heard good things about you guys. keep it up guys
I saw the 590 in 20 gauge 9 shot model! Im def interested in that gun. Ive already got an 870 in 12GA, but kinda want to downsize to 20 for lighter weight. Throw a light and collapsible stock and a mesa tactical 6 round holder and youve got a light weight, light recoil, devastating shotgun!
Funnily enough, I took leave for a while and got to do my own 500 round burndown. It wasn’t all at once, and it was closer to like 700 shells, but the 590a1 has taken literally close to no damage from it.
I absolutely love my 590A1. The only pump you ever really need
Have carried both Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 series shotguns on duty. I preferred the Mossberg as it was lighter and I liked the position of the safety better. Very important when clearing buildings, felony stops and working with K-9 handlers on building and area searches. If I had to carry a pump shot gun instead of my patrol rifle, it would be a 590. Right now they are available in my area at Ky Gun Co. for under $500.
🤥
I just picked up my THIRD Mossberg 590 that I have owned over the years. I always end up coming back to the 590 and my newest one is the 590 retrograde with the beautiful wood furniture and I couldn't love it more!!
Reliability is paramount. Under fire it maters not why your weapon failed….dead I’d dead. The 590 is a proven reliable weapon. Great review, keep it
When I first got my 590A1 when I turned 18 it would not cycle well at all. I had to pump it two or three times to get it to release a shell from the magazine tube. Turned out it was the bar that retained the shells in the magazine being bent a little off from the factory. As a result the bar would push inward rather than outward to release a shell. A quick straightening of the bar and filing of the burr that resulted from the initial malfunction and every since then my 590A1 runs like an absolute champ.
Great problem solving!
My 590 is ten years old. Use the shit out of it. Still going strong & begging for more! Still the best pump gun on Earth.
Nice! Replace your magazine spring.
I love my 590A1 Retrograde. It's a solid beast that never lets me down! Worth every penny!
I've had one of these for the last 9 years. Awesome gun. I was inspired to go get one because it was the shotgun used by Jon Bernthal's character in The Walking Dead.
Ha! Nice.
My local gun store had these on sale for 400 bucks. It included the heat shield. Best investment I've ever made.
Only two guns I've ever bought are a glock and a mossberg.
Wouldn't change it for a thing!
If you train with them, you'll probably still be more effective than something like 70% of people who have safes full of firearms they constantly cycle between.
Now all you need is an AR. The only 3 guns every respectable American needs.
I did an SBS NFA register on my Remington TAC-14. Installed a mag tube extension to give it a 5 plus 1 capacity and a REMINGTON 870 SGA BUTTSTOCK on it. I love the way it handles with the 14 inch barrel!
Choice upgrades. Send us your barrel and you'll love the way it handles even more.
My 590A1 is my go to pump. Added a Vang Comp +1 extension, Mesa Tactical LEO stock with their Crosshair recoil reducer, CT Laser saddle, top rail and Vortex Crossfire red dot.
The classic 870 is a fantastic shotgun. I will always give it props but I prefer Mossberg.
Thanks for the support! We appreciate you.
@@VangComp Once I have my store open I’ll be sending you a Shockwave M to work your magic on. I have a Gen 3 Knoxx Breacher’s grip waiting for it. The back extension of the grip plus the slightly longer barrel ensures that it is still just a “firearm”
I’ve owned a Vang Comp Mossberg for over 20 years, it pairs nicely with Remington low recoil buckshot and slugs. The buckshot patterns small so that may be an issue for you. No reliability issues or problems. 100 yard slug shots to center mass is not that hard with those sights. I will pick this over my Benelli any day.
Best gun channel on this "platform". I bet you just sold another 1000 590s.
I would love to see James do a video with Nutinfancy. Bridge the generations, James.
I run a Mossberg 590 with the heat shield, it otherwise basically looks like this one! I will definitely keep eyes out for this one! Thank you for the review!!!
I have an old 590 with the bead sight and speedfeed stock. I put a red dot on it. There is no telling how many rounds have gone through it. It has the plastic trigger group and still no problems from it. Nothing compares to a Mossberg 590, 500, or Maverick 88. Possibly the best home defense firearm ever made.
Nice! Red dots on shotguns are underrated.
Around the 7:23 point when you referenced the uncle that was into guns letting a kid shoot a 12ga. brought back so many memories, lol.
I identify as that kid.
Love my 590-A1 Special Purpose. 8+1 of standard shells, and 13+1 of mini shells
How mini can you go?
@@zilch7116 just the opsol
@@ETC_Rohaly_USCG does the opsol cycle them reliably, I’m stuck between the a1 and the 590S. But I want the heavy specs of the a1. However also want to cycle minis and whatever I stuff into it.
@@zilch7116 but yes, was able to cycle through the entire tube, multiple times without any problems
@@zilch7116 granted, the only drawback I had was once I jammed that piece of rubber in, it was a bit difficult to remove if I wanted to run 2 3-4 to 3”
I have liked Mossberg shotguns for decades. My first one was the Maverick. Then I got a 535 and 835. Still have both and neither one has ever failed after hundreds of slugs, buckshot and various birdshot. I did put a tactical setup on both with shock piston in the buttstock. That in combination of a muzzle brake reduces recoil of a 3 1/2 " shell a lot. ( Grizzly Gun Works ). At 65 I am not wanting to abuse my body, but also not giving up my shooting guns.
I have the 930. My go 2 for home defense
Mine has never jammed, I was really surprised by that.
I have the 930 JM pro and it is a solid with over 1500 rounds through it
@@cameronnorton5898 lol
My favorite is the 590A1,built like a tank with magpul furniture. It runs & runs. It rocks hard. Get one!
Thanks Richard!
TFB TV KILLING IT with the new videos I LOVE IT! This is my thirst traps here!!!
Gurl, same.
Vang comp also changes the forcing cone to produce the tight groups both buckshot. It’s a patented method and it’s DOPE! Thanks for this video dude
Very loud on the left and right. Maybe too loud.
I'd say go with the 590 Retrograde for that sweet sweet Bayonet lug and heat shield. Nothing is more reliable than impaling someone with an M9 bayonet sticking off your retro-aesthetic riot gun.
👌🏻
That's why I wanted a classic AR-15 A2 so I can throw a M7 bayonet on it to make the liberals cry even more.
😂
Remington quality is back to normal now that they got away from the "freedom" group.. Just bought an 870 Tactical and the fit and finish is very nice, iv ran probably 100 slugs thru it, bout the same of buckshot and a few hundred birdshot rounds with no failures. My only complaint is weak ejection, however it's never failed to get the spent shell completely out of the action.. The 590 A1 is deff an awesome shotty tho.
I have no plans on buying that. However, if a person lives behind enemy lines and cant have a semi auto with more than a 5 shot tube, I could definitely see buying it.
Amen, thanks man.
Poured my morning coffee and said please God let there be some fresh shotgun content... 🙏
The Vang Comp system is definitely worth the money, the ports and the lenghtend forcing cone do make a difference, combined with a Knoxx recoil reducing stock my 590 has very little recoil.
I have an 870 Police with the vang comp porting and it is surprisingly effective.
@@brandonrupp5880 Thanks man!
Thank you very much.
I got that same model when it first came out like 10 years ago. I still have it. I put in a better quality magazine spring and follower, magpul stock to shorten the LOP. It’s a tank, shoots everything. Heavy duty to the max.
Him: “in this marijuana field.”
The ATF: “Sir, what is your location?”
I love my 590 A1, but I'm also a huge fan of my 870. A good pump gun is just hard to beat.
No it isn't. It is easy to beat. A good semi gun smokes a pump gun any day.
@@elitetrader5468 Like the Beretta 1301 Tactical.
@@user-bz8cr6wi1r Exactly. I really so no reason to own any other shotgun than the 1301. That's why I own two. Nothing else. I am also always laughing at the pump guys in glass. They are so slow and they constantly have issues with short stroking the gun. The 1301 just eats everything flawlessly. It is like cheating. The Langdon version takes it up a notch (albeit I question the price but that's another story). Throw an Aimpoint T2 on it and it is unbeatable in terms of speed. I also saw the Benelli M4 guys having malfunctions so there's that. The M4 is great, but really just made for buck/slugs. The 1301 eats everything, albeit I primarily run 00 buck, because I practice with what I'd use in a defensive situation. Plus you can fire buck all day long and not get beat up like you do with the 590A1. I used to run a 590A1, and I've broken ribs with it before. I'm not a tiny guy either and I know how to mitigate recoil, but it happens with some of the more punishing loads, especially if you adopt more of a fighting stance with the shotgun.
An interesting side thought is one's comfort level with a particular platform. I recently purchased a Benelli M4, but when my local gun store received a Mossberg 590 A1, I couldn't resist. I feel like I "fell off the wagon" when admitting that I prefer the 590 A1 because I grew up hunting for so many years with a similar Mossberg 500. I'm so accustomed to the operation of the Mossberg platform that it enables me a higher user proficiency.
I have a 535😳 I love it, kicks like mule but reliable and accurate. And I get the benefit of going up to a 3 1/2” she’ll!!
Send the barrel to us and it'll tame it a bit.
I own a 590S Non A1 and it rocks. Great video. KEEP ON ROCKING
Nice! Send us your barrel and you'll like it even more.
The standard 590 is a good bit cheaper than the A1 and that thicker barrel on the A1 is not necessary for the vast majority of people. They're good enough to pass down when you go.
But; Breaching, Bro. 😎
A heavy barrel means it takes longer to heat up and it helps absorb some recoil. And its aesthetic AF.
James, I recently purchased the Standard myself. Haven’t received it yet. I think it’s going to be my first “review” video when I get it. I bought a TON of accessories. Not needed, but looking to make it the “standard” for home defense shotguns. 😅 Thanks for the review brother!
Even at 100 yards that slug hitting that steel sounds like a sledgehammer.
Truth.
I have a 500 mariner and I absolutely love it but I've been wanting a 590A1 forever.
How about a 590A1 Mariner? I have two of them and they are awesome. Also Have that 590A1 standard without the vang comp and a Thunder Ranch 590 with that badass door breacher, cookie cutter muzzle that can act as its own weapon if you run out of ammo.
@@johnraguso4910 nice collection, I think we could be friends.
No time like the present.
@@johnraguso4910 I'd prefer to have the 590A1 mariner, it has to match it's lil brother.
Glad to see another 18.5" model like I got but mine just has a bead sight. Added Magpul furniture, QD cup and barrel clamp, high vis aluminum follower and Wolff mag tube spring (the factory spring was a tad weak as the last shell was hard to unload manually or wouldn't feed on rare occasion). 6 shell holder that straps to the stock. Surefire mini scout light. Definitely zombie apocalypse ready.
Wolff rocks. Choice upgrades. Keep an eye on that aluminum follower, they can burr and will jam up in the tube when they catch an edge with enough reps. Especially with the extra power wolff spring.
@@VangComp Thank you for the advice. I'll keep an eye out for that in future cleanings.
Got a magpul furniture 590A1. It's nothing short of a beast
Send the barrel to us and it'll be more beastly.
Remington 870 is trembling in fear right now.
That gun has been a piece of shit for at least a decade now.
I have the 590 M-lok 50674. It’s such a sweetheart to shoot, and built like a tank. Couldn’t justify to myself spending the extra for an A1.
Injecting sand into small precision machine parts is a bit like seeing how many car wrecks a vehicle can withstand and still keep going.
I have a 5901 A1.... I have never had one jam. It's the best PUMP made in the world. I want that compensated barrel though!!
I’m really trying to decide between Beretta A300 U Patrol and this 590A1 with ghost rings. It’s about a $400 difference. I’ve never owned a shotgun before.
Handle both, see if you like the position of things to press, watch a few videos on safe loading and unloading, try a few shotguns at a range if you can. Those shotgun videos of Paul Harrell are great to know more about the ammo, usage of shotguns, pattern of shot and distances. They aren't running away, take your time.
@@onpsxmember good advice!
Like James says in the video, it depends on whats important to you, Speed or Reliability.
Great review, need that fore end
Indeed. We may put them on the site as take-offs for the limited Magpul models we put out.
My preference is the 590S 20" barrel.
Good for defense and hunting.
Easier to shoot with the 1 3/4 shells.
Absolutely brother! 20” is king!!!
*defense
@@SocialismDoesntWork ty
I tried the mini shells. Fun to shoot and what not, but I've always gotten eratic patterns especially with the buckshot loads so I went back with normal 2.75" #4 buck.
@@toddk1377
For hunting I can see your point.
They reduce the powder.
But as a 000 buck for defense, you might be good.
For hunting you might be better with 2 3/4 - 3 inch shells.
Before I went full Berettard on my 1301T, the 590A1 was in the running to be my first shotgun. If I’m ever in the market for a pump shotgun - I’m gonna have to go with the Standard.
Thanks man! That means a lot. The 1301 is no slouch.
@@VangComp yes, love my 1301. Your Work on the Standard looks awesome!
James! You Lawyer with a Shotgun, You! That was an excellent video. Really considering the Semi-Auto version, but this is also a contender. If I buy one AI will blame it on you for forcing me to! Just kidding....or am I? Keep up the great work, this must be a palette cleanser after those crap can Turkish models. Keep being awesome! Ciao!
Thanks for the compliment, Jack! We appreciate your consideration.
I’ve been waiting for you to get around to one of these!
Thanks!
This dude has a shoulder of Steel
I've always loved my Mossbergs ❤❤❤❤
I learned on both the 590 and the R870 in my time with the Navy. Ended up liking the 870 more, and it's what I own currently. I'd ask if you guys ever plan on doing a burn down on one, but I can't tell if it would be a good or bad thing cos their quality has really went downhill up until very recently. Probably still better than a Turkish gun, but I wouldn't be surprised if even the maverick 88 was built better lol. Thankfully my 870 was some sort of special run with blackhawk knoxx furniture from the 2000's...but it's a 20 gauge. Still can do work with it, ammos just a problem today lol
I fired a 590 at a joint assignment range, I didn't know navy had 870s as well. Army doesn't really use shottys except for breaching.
@D R I bought an older model specifically because of their issues, and the previous owner took quality care of his firearms. I wouldn't buy a R870 today most likely, though I have heard their shockwave model has gotten much better. It's just the platform I feel the most competent with, but I'd gladly switch to the 590 or even 500 if I had the income to
@Logan Scott the 870s most bases or ships have are from super old stock. They've been largely phased out for the 590, but even then, that training has been phased out itself from bootcamp. These days if you learn how to run a shotgun in the Navy, you're either a Master-At-Arms (MP), VBSS member, or have a collateral as a firearms instructor. And obviously if you're in special Warfare operations or deploy with Marines.
Fudd
We have 4 Mossberg shotguns, they all work great. Maverick 88, 500, 535, 590A1.
Great collection! Send us a barrel and you'll like it even better.
I'm disappointed James didn't use his tactical spankers
I bought the 835 Ulti-Mag brand new back in 1988, Came with 10 3 1/2' shells right in the box.,GREAT TURKEY GUN.
Ended up buying a 24" barrel & porting it like Mossberg did later on. Also have a Ported Choke Tube on it but it still DOES NOT TAME THE 3 1/2" LOADS, DAMN THEY KICK. Use 2 3/4" for hunting mostly, not the 3' or the 3 1/2".
Put a Ghost Ring sight on it with a BIG DOT front sight, shot Turk's out to 90 yards with the XXFULL Comp-N-Choke Tube. It's still going strong since 1988 with not one problem.
I like pumps. I can't imagine a scenario where the extra rate of fire of a semi would make any practical difference.
Semis take out the extra variable of manually cycling the action, removing the [very real] potential of short-stroking
In a life or death scenario you may forget to pump after the first shot because your brain is in a complete fog
@@John_Redcorn_ But they also add potential feeding/cycling issues, so...boil it down to preference and call it a day.
I like both, for different reasons. If we're talking "practical" I'm thinking home defense, and either will do the job very well.
You're absolutely correct.
@@John_Redcorn_ short-stroking is not exclusively a pump-shotgun malfunction, semi-autos can do it, too.
I currently own two Mossberg shotguns. I was searching for an 590A1 when I saw a used 930 JM with Oregon 3 gun upgrades. So I took it home. Later I found a 590 with bead sight and camo furniture. I like the slender corn cob grip. I have lusted for the 590 A1 since before Hop was born. I also have a Wilson Combat Remington 870 Professional model since 2004. It has induced a slow drool from several law enforcement guys. I have used it to relegate a few big nocturnal jack rabbits in Clint Smith's A.O. However the safety selector is my favorite on the O.M. smokepole.
Drop the thought of buying any turkish shotguns and just buy a mossberg
Most Turkish shotguns last about as long as it took you to type that.
@@bluebeastsrt its faster to blow up money on turkish shotguns than on hookers n blow 😂
Love your shotgun videos. That's what brought me to your channel.
This channel has been a haven for 12ga fans for quite some time.
"Guns, not politics" is possibly the most idiotic sentence I've ever read. Guns ARE politics. You cannot enjoy your rights without constantly fighting for them. Otherwise (newsflash!) You will lose them!
Could it possibly be that the focus of the channel's content is on Guns and not the associated politics? Id be willing to bet the creators contribute in someway to supporting & preserving these rights its just probably not a feature of the content.
@@ianmuller2769 No, that is simply illusion peddling. They deliberately made the point that guns can be separated from politics. That is false. No other gun channel makes such a ridiculous mockery of gun ownership.
The guys at VangComp did an awesome job with the Mossberg Standard 590 A1. Their quality and attention to detail is outstanding! I love my Mossberg 590 A1!
Just cause something passed a 3k round test years ago doesn't mean what is currently on the shelves can do the same or has the same QC. A 590 from years vs. one today torn down would be nice. Comps and lead shot, but no chokes.
My first Mossberg pump was an 835 with the backbored, ported barrel. The 835 is basically a 590 with the receiver built to accommodate a 3.5" chamber barrel. I managed to get hold of a 590 barrel (3" chamber) to swap. That's what it wears at home. Really the only thing missing is the corncob pump handle. It's a tank of a gun. So I have a sporting 590 in essence.
Incidentally, my real HD shotgun is a 70s Mossberg 500 that has had enough wear to be super smooth. Hit the release and the action just falls open. When I bought it used the end of the long barrel had pitting. Excellent candidate for shortening to 18".
I have both the Beretta 1301 LTT and the Mossberg 590A1 LE. Wanted a fine example of semi and pump. I think my home defense is covered.