Nikon ZF - Unboxing and why YT previews are wrong about this camera
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- Nikon ZF - Unboxing and why YT previews are wrong about this camera
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Came here for the Nikon video. Stayed for the very insightful perspective about the different ecosystems. You have a great calming presence and it's a nice change. It's almost like ASMR lol.
Haha thank you very much Noi! Means a lot hearing that from you 🙏😊
@@IntrovertAmateur Haha! I'm just an internet nerd :P
I agree with this statement hahahah
You are going to be a successful TH-camr. What I appreciate about your analysis is how honest and self aware it is. Few people would admit the degree to which hype on TH-cam influences their decisions, most pretend it's rational, and as a result of that honesty you gave an original take on the zf. Incidentally I was looking to decide which system I was going to go into, and the Nikon zf is the reason I decided to go with Nikon. Keep doing a good job, only criticism id make is put more effort into the editing (specifically audio).
P.s. your english is a little awkward but easy enough to understand and I like your accent.
Thank you so much for your kind words and the constructive criticism! I'm well aware my videos are currently very basic, specially the editing, but for now that's the way for me to put at least some videos out beside having a young family with a 2,5y and a 0,5y old daughter :)
For now I hope I improve small steps one video after an other.
Regarding my English I'm also aware, since English is my 3rd language and unfortunately I don't use it currently every day. But for the English part I also hope to improve over time like Peter Lindgren did. At least you can understand it :)
Thank so very much for your feedback! Very much appreciated!
Fill the frame -- you're using 40% of it. You aren't the subject of the video; the camera (i.e. shiny object) is.
Manually focus your lenses pre-shoot, and move items of interest (e.g. the lens, the camera body) into the focused plane as needed; having out-o-focus hunting constantly -- or even for a second -- is annoying to the viewers, since it's entirely avoidable.
Either use your mic (a lavalier, if I'm not mistaken) a little closer to your mouth, or get something like a boom mic or something with greater sensitivity; your voice levels are too low, and the viewer shouldn't have to crank their own volume to compensate.
Thank you for this video! I agree with your analysis and share the same sentiment on how social media easily influences us especially when it comes to our gear purchases.
That Leica autofocus sucks bad. But got to love the Leica hype. But you are spot on with the Nikon strategy. I never thought I would see myself holding a Nikon in my hand. Thanks to social media. Guess what, that’s right. I did it. Thanks to social media.😀😀
Haha so true about the AF! First thing I noticed with the Zf was how fast and reliable the AF got my children 😁
And welcome to the club regarding social media purchases 😀
Good unboxing video! Curious about how you prepare your Leica Q3 for a talking head video. Would you consider showing that?
Thank you very much! I'm planning to do a 3 months "review" of the Leica Q3 from my experience and I can add how I use the talking head shot with the Q3 :)
Great video and intelligent thoughts. Thanks for making it.
Thank you for your time watching and leaving a comment! Much appreciated!
Your analysis is perspicacious and original. I noticed that most of the commenters here are also insightful and have posted comments worth reading. You seem to have attracted the discerning TH-cam content watcher. Kudos. Just subbed.
Thank you very much for your kind words! Appreciate your time watching!
The reason they released the ZF before the Z6III is the Z8. Nikon can't afford to outcompete one of their flagship products that soon after it's release. With the ZF being a completely different style of camera it is a lot less likely to cannibalize Z8 sales.
On the camera itself: The ZF is what the Df should have been 10 years ago. It is still flawd in a few ways, at least to my taste. But it is by far the best retro camera Nikon has ever produced.
Since I left the Nikon F-mount system around 2015 or so, I jumped from brand to brand and back. Fuji, Sony, Leica, Panasonic, Sigma, Hasselblad ... with native and adapted glass. It cost me a good chunk of money but it made the differences clear in a way that no review ever could. There is no substitute for experience. The Z9 was the first camera from Nikon I was interested in again, mainly for the shutterless design and the tech behind it. With the ZF I now own my first Z-mount body and as far as I can tell they put a lot into it.
Some of my personal gripes with it:
- Ergonomics. You can make a camera with retro dials that is still fits human hands, Nikon. Fuji has been doing that for over a decade now, please learn from them. Give me something to hook my thumb into on the back, at least.
- Flip out display: I don't like it on this camera. The ZF could have had a completely flat back from the 2x2 buttons to the other side of the camera where the plasticky, protruding display-hinge now sits. The camera would be lighter, less annoying to hold in your left hand and it would remove a potential point of failure.
- Micro SD: This is almost a non issue to be honest but with a slightly more ergonomic design and a somewhat bigger grip it would have also been possible to fit a second full size SD slot, I think.
- The button layout could be better. Most obvious example: The mignify + and - buttons. When shooting a manual lens and you want to zoom in to check focus, you have to reach down with your right thumb and hit that magnifier button three times ... and then you have to reach down even further and hit the other button to get out of that view again because half pressing the shutter doesn't do that. The only way around that: Set a custom button to 100% zoom. So now you have 3 buttons wasted to accomplish one thing. ... Why, Nikon?
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Overall I am still happy with the camera for now and especially with the level of tech in it. Top end processor, solid sensor, great AF and IBIS, dual card slots, fantastic screen and EVF and all of that in a relatively compact package. But as much as I love physical dials... when the Z6III comes out and fixes those ergonomics for me, I might switch. Or I find another solution until then. We'll see.
Good video, I agree with most of it. Keep it up and ... moin aus Hamburg. :)
Lord you have a long negative list, I’m glad you saw some positives in the end. There’s no such thing as the perfect camera, remember it’s just a tool to release your creativity, so in the end despite a couple of niggles Nikon has delivered a solid product. I just love mine and yes I have big hands so I bought the smallrig grip and now it feels fantastic in hand. Cheers and have fun!
@@GhostRider_SR I do have the smallrig grip too. It helps for sure. It doesn't entirely fix it though. (For me! Hands are different.) And when holding it in your left hand those ridges underneath are not very nice to the touch, I think. Of course no camera is perfect but on the other side no camera is actually bad anymore either. Just think about the core specs. Full frame 24mp, IBIS, solid AF, good video, dual card slots and so on. Even with all of these specs listed out there are Canon, Sony and Lumix cameras that fit all of those, none of them bad either and all in the same price range. So the niggles are what decisions are based on now. And I am still thinking about switching to be honest.
None of this should matter to you if you're happy. I know I'm a bit of a stickler so by all means ignore me and go shoot and have fun. As a tool to make images it is as good as any other out there. :)
@@noenken Agreed, we have reached a point where pretty much any camera on the market is excellent and only now a matter of individual tastes. I used to shoot triple A hockey with a Nikon D300 and the images were definitely appreciated by the clubs. So in the end we agree they are great tools, you just need the one that fits your style. Cheers!
I love my new ZF, I think it's a fantastic camera but still I am angry at the Nikon engineers: they put a thread in the shutter button, so I thought, GREAT, I can use my fourty years old release cables again: nope, doesn't work. Ah well, let's take my release cable of of my Z7II: nope, doesn't work, no input port. WHY NIKON? WHY ????????
@easyki Wait, seriously? They did the same stupid thing Leica did on the Q3? ... That's actually ridiculous. That is something not even Fuji did. 😕
Great video dude, really excited to get mine in after watching this! Will you be releasing a hands-on video once the camera is charged?
Thank you very much! I have several video ideas for those camera and I think I will make content about it parallel to my Q3. Used it for few days now and I’m excited using it 🙂
Enjoy yours when it arrives! Thanks again for watching and your time commenting.
Great video - I share a similar sentiment regarding the design and the timing of the release. Nikon has such a rich history in their f line up of film camera's and tapping into the FM2 as a design language was a great idea. I often see Nikon F3, FA, FE, F2, FM etc cameras in the film community being held in high regard. Additionally, in this retro design full-frame market, its really only Leica who is doing it with fuji offering only the APSC or Medium Format. For me, Leica is a large jump in commitment, and would require me to sell gear to move into it, where as the Nikon ZF allows me to stay with my other fuji cameras, but also use some of my older film camera lenses and retain the same focal length.
Can't wait to see some of your thoughts on the zf, and how you find the camera.
Thank you very much! Appreciate your time for watching and writing a comment. I will do additional videos, where I will share my experience + images / footage.
Danke! Schönes Video.
Vielen Dank! Und danke für deine Zeit es anzuschauen!
If this was just a z6 iii there would not be so many people picking this up. The ZF is a unique camera with the excitement behind its uniqueness. I shoot street I will be picking up the 26mm, 28mm, 40mm and several manual lenses with aperture control on the lens.
The Zf is definitely popular and if I look at the comments of this video, a lot had similar thoughts, which drove their purchasing decision.
Thank you for time watching and writing a comment. Your lens choice is excellent. I will probably add the 28mm retro design to my 40mm at some point.
If only Nikon would have partnered with Kodak and had the option of JPG film simulations, these would have sold out already
Oh man, that would be soo epic! Thanks for watching!
Thoughtful and considered meditation on Nikon’s approach to the Zf. Though I would not have thought the Zf would be the best “next release”, Nikon’s marketing savvy appears to be “on target”. I wish Nikon (and yourself) well.
Thank you so much!
I caved and ordered one. I am a current Fuji user--currently have the X-T4 and XH2. I plan to replace my X-T4 with the Nikon Zf and sell the X-T4.
I had a XT4 before and in my opinion you will feel the upgrade in AF and low light (depending on which lens you have / attach). Enjoy it when it arrives! I still have plenty of fun with mine :)
Nice video, was looking at Nikon ZF/mirrorless, the plastic lens mount on a lot of the new Nikon lenses is a real disappointment, so I went and purchased a minty used D850 for a fraction of the price of the ZF instead, and the old f mount lenses can be excellent and good value. Mostly stills, so still happy with using a dslr :)
Same. But I want with the D700
Thank you for watching and your time leaving a comment! That's a create decision! If you focus is only on stills the D850 is till today a killer camera.
This is not true. Nikon released so far 40 lenses.
8 of which are with plastic mount. All those are under 200g. (Except one 206g)
Z DX 12-28mm f/3.5-5.6 PZ VR
Z DX 16-50mm f/3.5-6.3 VR
Z DX 24mm f/1.7
Z 24-50mm f/4-6.3
Z 28mm f/2.8 (SE)
Z 28mm f/2.8
Z 40mm f/2 (SE)
Z 40mm f/2
I have not heard complains regarding Nikon plastic mount yet.
However, most lenses are dust and moisture sealed. Which is extraordinary. Build of all those lenses I found better then similar lens of some concurent brands. Optics quality is among highest.
All the S line lenses are metal mount and extremely well made and almost every single one is offering top class performance, in many cases far outpacing anything from F mount years. The 28/2.8 and 40/2 are not S line but still optically very good and very well priced. Something has to give. I have the 40/2 and love it for a smaller walk around package on any Z body when I really want small (not so important to me), but the Z 35/1.8 S, or the 24/70 2.8 S, tends to be mounted the most. I've no doubt the 40/2 plastic mount lens will be going strong many many years from now.
@@solutionrouteyou are wrong. And there is nothing bad with plastic in lenses.
Interesting and thought provoking. I’m still trying to decide whether to keep my Zf or go back to the XT5. Or wait till something ticks all the boxes. Screen like x-t5, user profiles, full frame. Tactile and retro. Happy with Nikon AF, better than Fuji.
While this was a fantastic video about what looks to be a great new camera, the truth is that if he filmed this with an A7IV, the AF in this video would’ve worked flawlessly. Sony is the clear king of AF
@pancakelens75 not even a question, it’s a toss up between the a7iv and the cii for me now
Thank you for your time watching and leaving a comment! I guess it also depends on your wallet and your lenses you currently own. After a few days I find the size of the Zf sometimes to bulky and wish it would be the size of the XT5 or at least between the XT5 and Zf.
Waiting for something which ticks all boxes ... to be honest I wish Canon would jump on this retro train and do something with the AE1 design :D
Thank you :)
Just to state the fact correctly: I recorded this video with the Leica Q3 and Leica's AF is just ... mid :..)
Sony and Canon definitely dominate the AF game. I had the A7IV and never missed a shot and video AF was flawless.
But somehow when shooting stills it wasn't fun for me. Therefore I moved on checked out other brands.
Agree, I had the Q2 and stills and as a camera 👌if I could afford the a7r5 I’d probably go that way because the screen is as it should be. Interestingly Fuji did it previously with their cheap xt100 plastic bayer filter cam. Maybe I should get that. The x-t5 was as good as the q2 for me. I’m sending the xf back today and my z7 because I find them too noisy.
Just to let you know, Nikon started their homage back to their FM and FE range of cameras (begun in 1977 & 1978 respectively) in 2013 when they released the Nikon Df. This was also a full frame camera, but it had only an optical viewfinder and no video support. It's a great camera an I still use mine today, but I now prefer both my Nikon Zfc and Zf, both of which are smaller and more functional. But it began 10 years ago with the Df.
Thanks for this nice video! Personally, Nikon's choice to release the Zf before the Z6 3 was great timing, as I was about to jump ship to Fujifilm, whose X70 I've been greatly enjoying. The Zf, which I am getting for the retro design as well as the surprisingly generous specs, will be my gateway to the Z system and what keeps me in the Nikon fold. Good move, Nikon!
In my opinion Fujifilm missed the opportunity to continue great cameras this year. That’s why I thing people like you who were on the fence are jumping on this great Zf. Enjoy it when it arrives 😊
Hear my voice: ZfR next year
Hey, good video! The audio is a bit too quiet, I was running my headphones on max volume, that's something I never do for other videos.
Thank you for watching and your feedback! I will be aware of it for my next videos.
Good video, I have been thinking lately if I should upgrade my "old" XT-2 to the XT-5 or the new Zf. The controls are important to me and being able to see aperture/time/ISO at a glance. The Zf is a great camera but with the zoom lenses it is relatively large and heavy. The Zf is an XT-5 for full frame and looks just as good. But that's not enough for me to change systems.
Thank you very much for your time watching :)
If you have lenses for your Fuji cameras I would personally upgrade to the X-T5 in your case. The X-T5 is a great camera and still gives that retro vibe like the Zf. Although I bought the Zf because of retro and fullframe, using it now a few days, I find the size / design a bit to bulky. If I now put on zoom lenses as you said, the Zf is just an ergonomic "disaster" in that category. If you are on the fence, just go to your local camera store and hold the Zf yourself :)
I have an xt 2 & was thinking about the exact same thing , with a 16-55 or 8-16 the xt2 is not as good ergonomically either , such cameras in both lines are better with smaller primes . Many with Fuji May also need the grip accessories also with Nikon smalll rig not yet out it would seem. I tried the zf in store with 40mm & 50mm mc , ok but will be better with a grip.
As for social media neither camera will get much love from those who are used to customisation & there’s no doubt Sony has very strong influences amongst the you tube reviewers , so I expect Nikon to get canned a bit in general regardless of the outcome of this or a z6 iii.
The new fuji cameras feel like shit imo. You definitely don’t feel like you get quality.
@@missisuppi the xt5 does feel very plastic & poorer than before . ZF very solid
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Recommendation: instead of holding camera up to lens, do a cut away to a b roll of the camera on a rotating platform.
Thx for the video!!!
Thank you for watching and your tip. I want to improve my video quality, but for now I do an done is better then perfect approach due to two small kids age of 2.5y and 0.5y :)
Hope I'll be able to spend more time on the quality of the videos in the future.
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Thank you! 😊
I was waiting for the Z6iii to come out but got the Zf instead. It's on backorder. The thing is though, I won't now be getting the Z6III. If there are thousands of people like me it might not auger well for the Z6III release.
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment! I'm curious what will happen when Nikon release the Z6III. I assume they will add some special feature, perhaps AI which the Zf doesn't have. Question is will it be enough to lure in customers.
How has been your experience with the zf? I’m deciding between this and the z7II (for 250 more) and I’m conflicting. I do product photography and studio portraits and this would be my jump into mirrorless.
@@macpaperts It's still on backorder so I haven't had a chance to use it at all. I think demand is high but Australia isn't high on the priority list for shipments. If you're doing product photography you might want a higher res camera but only you can decide that of course.
Great discussion, but your AF is killing me!
Thanks! I know, the Q3 AF is not that great... :..)
Access to the control knobs is a good move I guess. Convert to Nikon? Not so sure about this but the specs will help. Specs are one thing, Them performing as touted is another. I'm in the Nikon DSLR eco-system & waiting to see where they go over the next year. I shoot a lot of wildlife therefore I need an accurate AF Tracking system. I watch a ton of you tube vids on this stuff & Nikon still lags behind some. AF is to erratic. Jumps off subject like it is still using the phase/contrast detect rather than subject recognition & keeps hunting after the subject has been acquired. Even in some of Nikon's own vids they show it tracking & it jumps off & they cut the vid rite there. I might give Sony a try or maybe the Canon R5II that is rumored. With that said, I'll eventually purchase this camera with the FTZ adapter rather than lose money on my F-mount lenses. Ishoot the D810 but want the tilt screen & the Focus Stacking feature in my next camera. A jump up in mp's would be nice also since in wildlife photos there is usually cropping involved while editing. After you use the camera, give a report. Let us know how it does with faces. Pupil in focus using a wide aperture or did grab the eyelashes like some people say. Good luck with your channel & nothing wrong with your English. Not real smooth but I understand you perfectly. There are some succesful YT channels out there & they have some trouble translating what they want to say in english. Your not one of them. Happy shooting, stay safe & healthy.
PS: I still have my Canon AE-1 P that was purchased in 1984 & 2 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 that has been in the fridge for over 15 years.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I have some video plans with the Zf and will share my experience after using it for a while. Since the Zf is my first Nikon, everything is new :)
Regarding your special used case I think I would go the Canon or Sony route. Personally I would wait for the R5II :)
Reason is that Nikon has shown there current state of AF and that is the Z9 and Z8. This Zf might be slightly better, but without testing at the moment, I would say it would still happen, that the Nikon focuses on an eyeslash or the background instead of the subject.
Sony and Canon has shown there art of AF and brought that reliable technology already down to cheaper models, aka APSc line.
Just my thought on your subject :)
PS: Damn, these rolls of film stayed in your fridge as long as a teenage would grow up :D
I’m a Nikon fan through and through, would never buy a Panasonic with a Laica logo. With the Zf Nikon now has the best lineup in the world, if you add Z9 and Z8. Nobody can beat that.
It's definately a great line up and the Z6III and Z7III would complete it in the near future.
Sorry I fell asleep halfway the video
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Thats how cameras are supposed to be packed: nothing special
Fujifilm has a “fan base”
Bro, Fujifilm has a cult lol most of them are new photographer who grew up in the mirrorless age. Also mostly spec nerds and absolutely hate everything not Fuji . One of the top 3 reasons I can’t stand Fuji anymore is the “fan base”
A few years ago I had Canon and Sony cameras and depending where you look at on the internet, the same behaviour applies to these fan bases. Me personally don't understand why people treat their camera brand like hardcore sport teams, but in the end I think it benefits all. If different camera brands have their hardcore fans, they will be able to sell their new products to keep competing on the market. And diverse camera brand market benefits the customer (ideally).
Also I don't see anything wrong people being new photographers growing up in the mirrorless age. That's how you generate young people into sales by providing them value / incentive to buy as a company. If your customer base dies due to aging, your company dies with them.
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Did you learn English in Germany? After learning German?
@@michaelthibault7930I was born and raise in Germany, but yes learned German through kindergarten and later English in school :)