Lotr Rise To War Version 2.0 Ultimate Breakdown Guide To Prepare u for the Future of the Game
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- Todays videos in lotr rise to war is a super long one but be breakdown and explain every change and aspect in the new upcoming version 2.0 update coming soon all info is based from interviews with devs and pbe testing all this info is subject to change and the devs are actively working on the feedback received I love for you guys leave your comments and feedback in this video cheers
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0:00 Intro
0:15 Version 2.0 guide
1:00 What to expect in video
1:30 What the devs are doing
2:50 Formations guide
3:11 Why Formations are being added
4:46 Building a formation
5:30 Formation line-up slots
6:20 Surrport formation slot
7:21 Formation and commander healing system and rules
8:32 Formation Reinforcement system and rules
10:12 Formations supply and stats
10:34 Aspects that effect formations
11:12 Unit size Countering system
11:56 How Commander stats effects formations
14:29 How commander skills effect formations
16:13 Commanders and ascension system
17:25 New rarity levels and ascension system details
20:05 New commander level system data
22:28 Commanders skilling system in-depth
24:31 Gear and commander gear changes
24:50 Keep your old gear like frenzy Hammer
25:15 New gear stats and skilling system
26:42 Two Gear new skill set
27:20 Four gear new skill set
29:11 Commander gear and changes
32:11 New energy system and possible fixes
35:09 Troops and Barracks system
37:55 Ring and map changes
39:52 Understanding the new battle and reports system
43:41 Commander respect refund full system breakdown
47:18 New gear refund and exchange system and mithril changes
53:23 Video recap
54:22 Outro
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Dear Netease: You should have realized by now that the absolute only source of fun in your game is pvp. This game doesn't have anything else to offer the players, whatsoever. You should prioritize creating meaningful and fun PvE (and even new PvP) events in the game that require multiple and even specific commanders. What you are doing in PBE will not end the meta in the game, but create a new and more powerful one. With this new stupid energy system, you no longer need more than 4 commanders and everyone should quickly invest everything they have in the new 4 meta commanders. There are tens of ways that come to my mind (and I'm sure all other veteran players) to make this game more fun and enjoyable, but it looks like you're trying to find a new market at the expense of your current player base. Oh, and having the same 6 or so skills for all the equipment is so dumb! If you wanted to make a game for 8-year-olds, you should have made a new game, not destroying the one you already have!
I hope they see the comments, because most of them coincide with each other and the same requests are everywhere
Adding formations doesn't address the meta change the correct way, just buff weak commanders you don't need to force diversity through volume which is what this does.
Yes, exactly. Now we will use even less commanders than before. How on earth could they not see this coming.
@@GamingTremor Its not about balancing the game, its probably to force players to spend more. Seems like in the new version you will need to focus on at least 4 comms. Right now, if you focus on 1 or 2 comms, you can still fight well enough. But 2 strong comms probably wont be enough to run the whole formation.
I am sorry, but if someone trusts the devs, that they came up with formation to balance the comms, its IMO just naive. They could at least try to do some balancing in the last year. The community was begging them over and over again for more than a year to balance the comms so more of them are useful, they didnt do a single thing. Yes, they are right, many of the comms are not used at all in fights. What a great discovery, players are saying this for more than a year. If the devs didnt have the ideas, there were many of interesting ideas in the suggestions on discord.
This new version will probably end up with the same problems. After a while players will find out the best comms, builds and formations. There are some new version comm tier lists already on the internet.
But it does address the most important issue: how to make whales with perfect gear spend money again.
Hi guys finally got this done in todays video we breakdown everything that we can expect in the version 2.0 coming very soon based on pbe which a test only and subject to change as u will see in the video as well as information from talking's to the devs please feel free to leave your feedback this video will be shared with the dev team and many others cheers
I feel like if they wanted to change up meta they could’ve just tweaked the commanders damage or skills or stats instead of doing the whole formation thing such as in part 1 of the video
Yeah it is a complete big change
Wow! Excellent video! Will be sharing this with my friends. Really did a fabulous job of covering all aspects of the changes and going through the updates. Thank you very much EJU-BU 🐧
Thanks mate I really appreciate it
The minimal amount of pushback on the energy system is criminal. Limiting play and engagement is idiotic by any metric. You want people to play your game more not less
Unless you don’t care about good gameplay…..
Yeah it's very limiting atm and I play alot and don't want be limited in the amount time I want play game but they taking this info on board alot when we discussed it
@@EJU-BU imagine playing a game and feeling like you weren’t rewarded for playing more/ trying harder. That shud never be a thing. A good game shud reward you for putting time and effort into a game. This stam change takes that away
@reckross331 I agree fully from my discussion with them there working on options of increasing the energy total amount or reducing the cost of energy usage
They already made some commander change and commander r10 gear changes today after discussions so it's some steps forward pbe is a test for them tweak but there very aware of the energy system issues we have
Thank me later please feel free leave any comments cheers
0:00 Intro
0:15 Version 2.0 guide
1:00 What to expect in video
1:30 What the devs are doing
2:50 Formations guide
3:11 Why Formations are being added
4:46 Building a formation
5:30 Formation line-up slots
6:20 Surrport formation slot
7:21 Formation and commander healing system and rules
8:32 Formation Reinforcement system and rules
10:12 Formations supply and stats
10:34 Aspects that effect formations
11:12 Unit size Countering system
11:56 How Commander stats effects formations
14:29 How commander skills effect formations
16:13 Commanders and ascension system
17:25 New rarity levels and ascension system details
20:05 New commander level system data
22:28 Commanders skilling system in-depth
24:31 Gear and commander gear changes
24:50 Keep your old gear like frenzy Hammer
25:15 New gear stats and skilling system
26:42 Two Gear new skill set
27:20 Four gear new skill set
29:11 Commander gear and changes
32:11 New energy system and possible fixes
35:09 Troops and Barracks system
37:55 Ring and map changes
39:52 Understanding the new battle and reports system
43:41 Commander respect refund full system breakdown
47:18 New gear refund and exchange system and mithril changes
53:23 Video recap
54:22 Outro
Hi not sure if this was addressed (I’m almost 100% certain it was) BUT I have 3 commanders who had their relic gear prior to update obviously mentioned it’s destroyed into pure material. Does my commander need to be “legendary” in order to actually equip the relic? They are all of “epic” rank currently
@kylerkavalle2048 yes has be legendary
if theres anything else u dont see in the video and like answers for please let me know ill be replying to every comment
The thing i have an issue woth goes to the gap of ftp vs ptw. Now to have a strong army, you will need 4 commanders with gear. This is no issue with people that pay a lot of money. For the people that had 1-2 strong commanders and could at least contribute is something me way, they will get steamrolled every time. This was the ballance as most people have 1-2 strong commanders and could gang up on the people that had 4-8 strong commanders (just a few people).
On top of that, theu put refinement back in. Meaning the gap between base gear and fully strengthend/refined gear is that much more. That is something that lead to more of a gop between ftp and ptw.
There are very few games that cares about non spenders because the main goal of these games it's profit,that's what pays the people developing it and makes millions for the owners,I've quit the game once they lowered the drops and made changes to the season pass
I started playing 10-14 days ago after quitting State of Survival. The server is pretty much dead. Plus 4 commanders is probably more viable for whales(=more money). As long as the top 1% spends, that should keep the servers going. That was the motto on SoS. The "whales" in my server would probably just be a very low spender in SoS, I spent roughly 500 so far, I'm considered a high spender lol I was 35k deep on generation 1 on SoS, I spent 140k or so playing SoS
appreicte the feedback mate
@@EJU-BU I'll probably just quit tbh. There's nothing going on in this game whatsoever. Just a war between the two clan/kingdom that consists of old players that just don't want to quit lol
I also heard the devs mention they don't want the players to be forced to spend many hours per day to progress and enjoy the game. I'm actually with the devs on this one. The best way to achieve this is to reduce the current stupid march time! It takes sooooo much time to send troops from here to there. Most of my time playing this game is wasted by just watching my troops walk like a crippled turtle across the screen, and it's really painful! Particularly, pathing (paving) is the single most frustrating aspect of the game by far! Just eliminate the rule for connected land (like what you did for sweeping) and the game is so much more enjoyable and less time-consuming for everyone.
It gives us opportunities to look at things to buy in the shop while we wait to land from a march.
I like some changes but not some like energy system but you said they may adjust that so thats good
yeah there already making changes so thats great
Thanks for the video mate. Regarding the unique equipment for the commanders, I'm a bit worried how every commander can now have a unique weapon slot, will increase the gap between F2P and P2W. Mithril cost a lot of gems or takes a long time to get through the Traven tips. This makes the P2W getting them on every commander a bit op and having a unfair advantage.
They just debugged the commander gear alot yesterday in a update
@@EJU-BU would be better to make the uniques better and you can use it as a "joker" for the abilities and stick with the 4 slots
i mean how ridiculous would a WK look with an (old)aegis helmet above his angmar crown? :D
just thinking for 5 minutes and dont get money for it, maybe they could get better results if they work for free? (netwase would love this idea)^^
Whew this gave me a headache. Great overview but too many changes. Game was fun while it lasted. Looks like I'll have to use my money to buy groceries for the fam again. Unfortunate!
honestly u got least give it a go before giving up oin it
Please mention to devs:
They absolutely must allow you to turn in your items for the same item with a new random effect. They cannot continue with a random item plus random effect. MANY players have specifically spent tickets for their types of items. This is only way to allow a relatively seamless item transition.
finaly i was waiting
Yeah sorry man a long video and had alot family stuff going on but I covered alot
i just did not understand the part of equipment, like we have the chance to keep old skills or switch to new,,, the logic is to all old be automatically converted to new with random skills@@EJU-BU
seeks like a very string combo will be Isildur main , supported by Strider , Boromir , and elrohir
I dont understand how the order of commanders works still... Why put the support in the third slot?
Very nice work bro, is a very good tutorial for the 2.0!
thanks mate what u think the new commander changes and commander gear
I was playing this game to pull out tranquility helmet for my MOS so that I could main him, with these changes there won't be any mechanics such as right? and even if i manage to pull out the item with specific unique it will not effect the formation so that won't be strong i guess..
I think the system will change gear pulls to new skills so unless u get it before v2.0 hits u screwed
@@EJU-BU yeah thats what i thought so…
I'm waiting for a movie in which some whale will simply remake his entire account into a new version.
i will be converting all my old gear and such when the refund and exchange system is active
Hey guys,
I didn't fully get why it's important to put specific commanders in specific slots. For example why does it matter if the support commander is #2 #3 or #4?
Когда это все вступит в силу?я не совсем понял.у меня полно командиров р6 и выше,которыми я не играю.можно будет обнулить их уровень и вложить в тех,за кого хочу играть?
Today it launched my whole server has no clue what to do and what will work or not. The comfussion mid season is complete
Can you reset the power of bloodline? I have 14 points in it on kirun but when I reset my points that value stays at 14. Will it reset at the new season?
thats a glitch bug for sure it should reset any time u pay the 20 gems to reset your skill points
Ummm i have a weird question I tried asking in game but nobody answers me... Okay so I've only been playing the game for a short time now I played most of season 1 as a super super noob in a very weak fellowship and then I have spent the last two seasons in very strong fellowships and have made a lot of progress unlock many commanders and begin leveling their respects up but I found in season 3 I have been facing a lot of players who have respect 10 or higher commanders and in the short time I've played I've only managed to get two commanders to level six and lots of others to ready for Ascension now what I'm wondering is it possible to play previous seasons over again without losing my current strength like for example can I go back to season 2 and keep doing that until my commanders are all higher respect levels or do I just have to keep advancing season by season cuz I noticed just before I started this season there was a list of season 1 2 and 3 and it seemed like I gave me the option to go back but I'm not sure how that works and I don't want to make a bad mistake
Yeah this is a major issue atm that I spoke about in the new system after first two it's like getting feed to the sharks and way unbalanced like tou could end up in a season with me for example
Great so we have to deal with four whale heroes instead of one in one army lol
4 commanders in 1 fight now what in the world thats crazy 🤪
thats just the start of it haha
And they still havent added Harad and Umbar expansion into the base game...
How will people do anything vs burn and fokus damage if no item or skills to prevent that? Normal atc have armor what we have vs burn now ?
Certain troops have burn resistance and u can keep old gear and troop burn damage has been lowered
So my armor with burn reduction will stay but only up side of buffs will change - might for atc and so on ?
If I use an old axe but new everything else I will only be able to group 2 other pieces of equipment and I would lose the opportunity to group 4 pieces together?
I cover all that at end of video in the equipment exchange system as there rules where u can only use like old gear to strengthen old gear but on new gear old and new can be used
Should I get isildur’s unique item now or should I wait and refund my gems spent for the gold mithril?
either way if u get now or after it be reset to base and need be re leved
I have a Faramir who is R 11, will I loose is R10 item? Or will I just not be able to equip it?
u will keep all gear u already unlocked it just go to base then u have option to strenthen and refine again
So if I have Gimlis unique it will be dismantled and returned to me in mithril? How do I go about getting it again?
U will have the base of it still just unstregthen and un refined
Do you know, if we have commanders that we didn't had a full pull and are friendly, are they going to be respect 0 now?
The friendly system will be going so so they will be unlocked as a r0
@@EJU-BU thank you for the reply and your efforts! Very informative video
thabks mate@@josecarvalho5382
I don't think power of bloodlines stacks. It states that it affects only the commanders formation.
yeah i ment in the fact if u used it on each commander in total u have a buff all formations in total
Nice video but overall 2.0 looks far too complicated and unnecessary, I’m f2p and only have 2 strong commanders so the 4 commander formation thing is gonna ruin me
They don't care about you,they want their millions flowing in
so instead of reworking other commanders to make them playable they rather screw up the game? - nice
formations not able to reinforce in battle zone - nice for everyone who gets calpped by whales
extra slot for unique - nice for whales, can clap even harder on low/mid spenders (dont even mention f2p in this game anymore)^^
i see a lot of great changes here tbh, they really do a good job...
but thanks that you put much work into this video, thats the only good part of all this changes
Thks for the video
You shouldn't spread the "marketing message" from netease about "why" they do the change.
But because i don't want to be angry with the untruth you said about it and i only want to thks you about the advise you gived. I will stop here ;)
i guess u talking about the chinese market right thats what i meant with the more player base coming in
@@EJU-BU don't even know if it's about chinese market
But 100% sure it's all to give us more reason to spend for and make more money with it.
100% of their intention with this 2.0 is all around this only reason.
Now we only have to see if we can still enjoy the game with those changes ... or not
I only hope my good account is not going to turn into a trash one ... but right now it seems to ^^
Alot the good commanders are great I'm working on a tier list for next video
So what about the refines on your old weap? Those are just gone?
No they will remain all old gear will stay same skill unless u convert it or break it down
@@EJU-BU so it’s better to convert it or keep it the same it’s so confusing?
@@justaghost5063 i personally am converting the new tool on the website helps out with seeing what it will change to for example
But like doesn’t this hella screw over people with full gold refine? Like I just got my gill almost fully gold cost insane amount of money and now I will just hav whine back at base no refines with they give your gear back spent on refines?
Sorry comment misspell I’m just lost this doesn’t seem good frustrating I thought the game was perfect just needed balance on some coms an frenzy
I saw some videos,i am confused... will i lose my items, heroes etc or ? Im f2p...but i played 10 seasons, grinded hard and made some friends..if i am about to lose everything,then i see no point. I got, t1 hero khaldon (R13 , unique gear max refined, other items purple max refined). T2- shadow R11, unique gear 5 stars, other items purple max refined. And R 7 kirun, he has 5,6 stars gold items, some are refined twice or x3, in short - i gave example. I have about 30 more purple items and about 5,6 gold items,but i have them on other heroes- about 6,7 R levels, t1 and t2, however,im not that precise in calculating the way i saw on video - so please,if possible,just let me know - is there a hope for me, to at least maintain unique gears on-my khaldon and shadow and at least gears enough to wear 3 heroes fully?? I don't know how value will change, it's just - im trying to say if only 60% of every thing i had -if i keep it,its all i need and im grateful to developers and every one. Please let me know or at least opinion. My gratitude
No u keep everything I unlocked and same with mithril
Your gear u will keep the special commander gear u just have restregthen and refine it but u will have all the items back from when u first did it
@@EJU-BU so, nothing lost,to be precise...and if it all goes into some points - I can simply rise my heroes,and- be at same R level -maybe even more since I got heroes I see as mistake for rising them... example..I have 2 t2 heroes....both respect level 8...and Instead return it ,I pick only 1 of them and lift him, maybe not level 16(8 + 8 ) but instead idk.. level 12,13...? The way I figured out.
@@EJU-BU but nobody days anything about respect seriously...:( :( can I at least have it on 3 heroes if I got 6 at r 10 :( :(
@@kristianhajnrihkovac6985 there a whole section about the respect system
maybe I can shine then with shagrat or glasha^^
they actually looking pretty good
Let me say this: For a mobile game, there are far too many serious changes in this update, at the beginning of every game there is a learning curve and most people (myself included) might go through the information gathering process once, but certainly not a second time. This will further minimise the playerbase, which has already shrunk terribly since the game's launch. I think that's it for LOTR. There were so many good alternatives to make the game better, but unfortunately they decided to take the path of luring more money out of peoples pockets with changes no one ever asekd for in the first place.
Just saying they don't listen or they would have been updating and tweeking older commanders this whole time. But they don't touch them and that tells me everything I need to know about these developers. They don't care about game balance and never have. Just what makes them the most money, which is a new unbalanced format, commander, or unit.
i can understand where u coming from as it a entirely huge change that we where not expecting
BTW, they JUST updated a ton of commander skills and uniques, completely rebalancing things
yeah ive already been going over them mate i knew they where coming we discussed this other day in meeting so gives very good hope going forward hopefully we see changes to the energy system next
Great video
Well done
thanks mate
gonna be a slow start in the new season then i take it
yes there slowing down the game for sure
What does this update go live?
That info is under nda atm but pretty soon
@@EJU-BUok thank you!
What a headache, it’s supposed to be a game, not a degree in science or math
lol
un saluto a tutti 👋
Oh... bad news about new formation system.
*hayche* there I said it.
Nice. To see someone who actually talks about the changes and not just complain about a change but not understand everything envolvedd and that some is optional
Thankyou mate yes it's happening and people either accept and give it a go or not I like it personally it does have issues yes but they are being worked on my main issue is the limiting energy system but it's subject to changes
Like hold up at 3:10 you just explained the biggest issue. Some commanders just arn't being used. Well guess what they won't be used still because they still haven't touched their skills? like what a load of bull you're being fed and now sharing with us. I'm sorry but like come on man you can't believe the devs are doing formations for balance and letting people use none meta commanders? There will be a new meta in 2 weeks of the game coming out and it will now need people to have 4 stacked commanders instead of 1 or 2. Like geez be honest with us. I know you're a content creator and these guys give you a lot of incentive to give us this bull but come on man. Where is your honest opinion and comments on their lies. not even 4 mins in and I can't even. See what else you say.
It's a pbe a test mate that's why there actively making changes which they have already pbe is a complete test and many changes still need be made
For example they already made changes to certain commanders already as well to all the commander gear but still alot more changes to be done
Instead of changing the meta, upgrading weak commanders and making them better, the developers decided to completely change the formation of commanders, thereby killing the counter picks of the heroes, this is terrible
There is always a counter-pick in many games of this genre and this is normal, there are heroes who should be stronger than the other commander, one covers the other, but the second can be a counter-pick to the first
There is no all-powerful hero who can defeat everyone, this is part of the strategy, you always have to think and counter-pick the enemy hero to be effective. It’s a pity that this doesn’t reach them, they want all pvp to be the same and not interesting, no one will want to play this game. Their idea is to attract new players for the sake of losing old ones
We'll see what happens, but for me it's a disaster. The death of a game that many people loved and after 2 years of playing it will be sad to leave it and forget it, because the developers don’t want to hear from the players
Who have been with them for quite a long time and listen to their opinion
Сейчас играть неинтересно.все играют двалинами,серыми гендальфами и гильгаладами.у темной стороны король,грима,саурон.а ведь еще есть куча разных героев.многие вложили огромные деньги в игру чтобы прокачать т3 героя ,а он по итогу слабее т1 .конечно таким людям обидно и нужен ребаланс
Получается ,киты смогут 4 своими командирами уничтожать целые фракции,так как раньше нужно было одного командира в битве уничтожить,пусть на это потребовалось бы 3 армии,то сейчас кита охраняет сразу 4 таких героя ,которых уже обычный человек не сможет ни как пробить.потому что 4 командира уже в бою с китом ,у которого 4 точеных золотых героев одновременно бьют ваших…
TLDR for me, here are the new rules and system but erverything can change. You can keep your gear or change them but knowing the devs we are getting screwed either way. There are still stuff that dont work but dont worry, the devs "will" fix them before its rolled out. Its all a big mess and after all the screwing us they did they want us to trust them.
How is any of this helping the players? Its just gonna be harder to have a viable army.
by showing how everything is working as many people aint in to try it im also got way more videos coming out like commander tier lists and best formations builds and such
@@EJU-BU I meant the changes not your video. It's very descriptive.
The formations system makes it alot easier beat big whales I'm one myself and 2 armies can beat me
Right now the commanders are unbalanced. They need to balance the game.
they just made some commander adjustments and commander gear adjustments yesterday
Okay now that the update is out it is terrible. They need to get rid of the 4 commanders together makes it so stupid
I stopped playing for 2 seasons but this looks interesting seems they completely changing the game
YEAH ALOT HUGE CHANGES games changing alot mate
yes but it makes it much more grindy or more p2w. bcz the r10 items will now play a much more important role
This looks like shit and it is shit. They ruined the game and every gamer which is not bought by devs money (like creator of this video) can see this
Because now u can even take 200 or 230 if u have one or 2 good coms, u need 4 to think about it xD
Why
why what mate?>
Feels like paid promotion. Also, you've just used the same 4 commanders lol
That's my main army I used every commander in many formations doing t3sts
Everything is sooo P2W. Rip game.
people paying keeps the game going but i can tell u now the formation system is way better then just maxed frenzy commanders its alot easier to beat whales and i have 100s battle reports to prove it
This game have got one big problem, p2w and people who brake the balance and make game just horrible to Play. How to fair fight vs guy who spend a lot of money who have full golden upgraded items. You have lvl 50 full army and guy just beat you losing about 100 units, but you lose all units... I've been playing since the game was released and have 7 gold items (without any upgrade) :(, never spend any $ on this game but now this last season was just a trauma gameplay so many p2w users whole season cant just get one fair pvp fight. They should fix this because this stupid mathoms brake the balance... the best time and best feeling from game was at start when all players was new nobody have p2w items, people just starting a journey that was golden time off lotr. I'm thinking about leaving the game due to the conditions in the game where a free user who has been playing from the beginning to this day and the person who spends dollars is, unfortunately, a gap that makes the game unplayable for free players. Personally, I don't recommend starting from scratch unless you plan to spend around $2,000+
I can advise as a person who has spent alot the formation system evens it out alot I have alot reports to back it up I have a full lv 50 all 4 commanders max gear in pbe and it can be killed but 2 normal battles vs lv 41s cause there alot randomness in battles now and not just complete meta build and countering
o Jogo esta morrendo.Os desenvolvedores que não escutam os jogadores começam a forcar atualizações que ninguém pediu!
Ja pensou voce trabalhar com tempo construir suas coisas e do nada o Governo vem modifica sua vida e pega seus bens sem oferecer nada?!
Foi isso que aconteceu, inventem outro jogo ou então devolva o dinheiro e o tempo gasto de quem não quer essa nova versão piorada!
P2W wins big. F2P suffers immensely. Welcome to gaming.
Wrong. P2w pays all over again. And new gear that is zero stars is way stronger now. P2w has to pay for 4 heroes and not just one. Plus all their gear that was perfected is now going to all be randomly rerolled.