Half in the Bag Episode 24: Red Tails

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  • ORIGINAL UPLOAD DATE: January 26, 2012
    Jay and Mike see Red Tails then have a poignant discussion about race and George Lucas.
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  • @btr003
    @btr003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1645

    it's interesting looking back at this, the first action movie with an all-black cast. especially after seeing black panther, the first action movie with an all-black cast.

    • @frankmerker630
      @frankmerker630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

      Can’t wait till they finally have an action movie with an all black cast

    • @mombosibes107
      @mombosibes107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      I remember when I was a kid my dad took me to the cinema to see the first action movie with an all black cast, and I was amazed. Now I can bring to my son to see a new first action movie with an all black cast. I hope that in the future, new directors continued with the beatiful genre that is the first action movie with an all black cast.

    • @simona.9730
      @simona.9730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @antisocialite Glory also stars 2 white guys though...

    • @coreymcewen6793
      @coreymcewen6793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@simona.9730 irrelivent considering it's an all black cast

    • @wheremyshrimpsat6433
      @wheremyshrimpsat6433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and Michael B Jordan is in both of them

  • @khalilal-bukhari7042
    @khalilal-bukhari7042 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3482

    As a german I can say that this film is entirely accurate in its depictions of my countrymen. Every day, before the routine sinister marching, I practice saying "Africans. Show no mercy." Into the mirror while cutting new scars on my face.

    • @khalilal-bukhari7042
      @khalilal-bukhari7042 7 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      The working conditions are worse, but the morale higher

    • @khalilal-bukhari7042
      @khalilal-bukhari7042 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Amberbaum
      They were as kind as they could be, considering we killed about half of the studio cast off with stuka raids

    • @amberbaum4079
      @amberbaum4079 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Reverend Anton haha lol
      But only when they were filming outside :P

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well done Reverend Anton, you cracked me up!

    • @Claytonlamm
      @Claytonlamm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha! Nein.

  • @haileyshannon7548
    @haileyshannon7548 8 ปีที่แล้ว +768

    I found an old Lucasfilm magazine from the mid-90s and they mentioned Red Tails as one of Lucasfilm's upcoming projects, it spent 20 years in development hell!

    • @jasonfenton8250
      @jasonfenton8250 8 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      Better than Boyhood, took over 12 years to make!

    • @villemantyniemi1739
      @villemantyniemi1739 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well, I guess HBO didn't wait and made "The Tuskegee Airmen" TV-movie in -95 :D Haven't seen it, but I would think that that is better than this shit that I unfortunately watched and discovered it to be just b-grade BS war movie with overly dramatic direction, and it looked horrible. This is a good story but it needs much better direction and a script, so it can be presented as it should...
      And just found out that the HBO TV-movie is at the moment in youtube :D go watch that

    • @Myrth1
      @Myrth1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@villemantyniemi1739 Seen it in early 00s. Laurence Fishburne is in it (that was my main draw to it back then) and aside being obviously working under TV movie limitations it's a really solid movie. Definitely has less cheese in it. It's no Glory, but it's still miles ahead of Red Tails.
      It's pretty amazing how Red Tails was marketed under the whole "FIRST MOVIE LIKE THIS", while a superior version was made 15 years earlier and no fuss or media histeria was attatched to it.

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Does explain why he cast Cuba Gooding Jr 20 years too late though.

    • @spacemanspud7073
      @spacemanspud7073 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you could find that magazine, please share! (Like the name & date)

  • @isodoublet
    @isodoublet 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1408

    Hi guys, I come from the future. Everybody forgot about this movie already, george or no george.

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +DZ - 015 well im from even furdther future and i have to say fuck ZENU O HAIL CTHULHU!!!!.o and no one still remembers this film

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +CharlemagnePalace okay but what about the movie.du people remember movie named red tails in your timeline its important ?!!!!

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      o good i know what timeline you are from dont wary you well be saved by cthulhu one week from now. and it will start a war of DARK LORD ZENU AND CTHULHU.

    • @johnhandzlik659
      @johnhandzlik659 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      a know that

    • @JL-dance
      @JL-dance 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      isodoublet well i'm even more from the future and the robots who have taken over think this movie is terrible

  • @Wruce_Bayne
    @Wruce_Bayne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    those cuts to george and oprah sitting in what looks like a mansion with a vineyard talking about the little people cracks me up

  • @mrleedra
    @mrleedra 9 ปีที่แล้ว +737

    8:34 The Tuskeegee Airmen's motto was actually "Spit Fire." "Per Ardua ad Astra" ("Through Adversity to the Stars') is in fact the motto of the Royal Air Force. Since the latter has the word "adversity" in it, it got appropriated and put into the trailer, presumably to lure African-American audiences, while the Tuskeegee Airmen's own motto got left out. So much for honoring the Tuskeegee Airmen's legacy.

    • @CaptWesStarwind
      @CaptWesStarwind 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Spit Fire just sounds so much more bad ass especially for fighter pilots it is one of the best.

    • @dieppat
      @dieppat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Spit fire is fucking badass and makes way more sense.

    • @ChimpFromSpace
      @ChimpFromSpace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      George Lucas is the savior of black people!

    • @EitherEndofAugust
      @EitherEndofAugust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ChimpFromSpace Well, sure. He is the creator of Jar Jar Binks, for goodness' sake.

    • @charlottecorday8494
      @charlottecorday8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      White liberals (such as the ones who produced this) don't care AT ALL about honouring Black people, just that they APPEAR to care.

  • @TheThelaughingboy
    @TheThelaughingboy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    that scene in "Night at The Museum 2" where that one Tuskegee Airman keeps saying "The Tuskegee Airmen are on the march once again" was better than this entire movie

  • @andrewsmithphoto
    @andrewsmithphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    It's 2019 and no one remembers Red Tails... This review might be the only trace of its existence.

    • @whiterosecicero4802
      @whiterosecicero4802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Andrew Smith Red Tails is a movie? Since when.

    • @Yusuke_Denton
      @Yusuke_Denton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is this a Sonic reference?

    • @andrewsmithphoto
      @andrewsmithphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Yusuke_Denton Give it a year and it will be...

    • @Edo_Ginting
      @Edo_Ginting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now you can watch it for free

    • @andrewsmithphoto
      @andrewsmithphoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Edo_Ginting Looks like you are right... I was onto something for a while but 2020 made a fool of me yet again!

  • @MaceAries
    @MaceAries 7 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    "Forgettable in 2 years." Well it's 2 years later and I had no idea this movie even existed.

    • @henkman00
      @henkman00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ironically written 2 years ago...

    • @timandshannon03
      @timandshannon03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn, literally beaten to this comment from 2 years ago, by 9 hours........

    • @henkman00
      @henkman00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bowiiihowdyhow dare you? this is the first ever movie with an all black cast! how dare you forget.

    • @henkman00
      @henkman00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Yay !!! I was being sarcastic...

    • @henkman00
      @henkman00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Yay !!! and knowing is half the battle. or so they say...

  • @UlshaRS
    @UlshaRS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Lucas: It's one of the first all black action pictures ever made
    Dolemite: *BITCH ARE YOU FOR REAL!*

  • @buzzybuzzbuzz760
    @buzzybuzzbuzz760 9 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    "Seen any good movies lately?" "No!"

  • @macbrown99
    @macbrown99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    So you know that joust that the guy has in a P-51 against the ME-262? The one where he gets shot in the chest a dozen times? The ME-262 was armed with 4 30mm autocannons firing high-explosive shells intended to crack bombers in half. If that guy got hit in the chest with a single round, he wouldn't have a chest anymore. This movie is very fun.

    • @ATBatmanMALS31
      @ATBatmanMALS31 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuckin' pussy can't even take 4 30mm minengeschoß to the chest~

  • @crapwich
    @crapwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    I've never seen people age 20 years in 5 years, until now.

    • @katakis1
      @katakis1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      This is a reup from like 2010

    • @ctorange
      @ctorange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like 8!

    • @luiginastro8831
      @luiginastro8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Jay aged backwards, though.

    • @LocalMultiplex
      @LocalMultiplex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and now they've aged again lol

    • @nunyanunya4147
      @nunyanunya4147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its almost like cheeseburgers and cigerets with out any healthy life decisions is bad or something...

  • @Fargoth_Ur
    @Fargoth_Ur 8 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Wow, you think Paul Feig and Sony took a page out of Lucas's book when it came to marketing their flop this year?

    • @urbangaisare
      @urbangaisare 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Haleophant Green You sexist!

    • @chrismalott7171
      @chrismalott7171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No because Lucas didn't take a pre-existing franchise. Atleast he made his agenda movie without pissing off fans. Still doesn't make it right but still.

    • @ApesAmongUs
      @ApesAmongUs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @chris malott, if you take a look at the History or Discovery channels, I'm sure you'll find enough WWII fanboys that would be pissed off by a movie like this. Reality (or at least a romanticized view of it) has enough fanboys to make any franchise jealous.

    • @chrismalott7171
      @chrismalott7171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There are no "fanboys" of history. There are people who love and are fascinated by it but it's an entirely different beast from when it comes to pop culture fandoms.

    • @chrismalott7171
      @chrismalott7171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People fictionalize history all the time. It's called historical fiction.
      You haven't met many world war 2 gets have you? Or many gets for that matter. They would find the inconsistencies trivial.

  • @aivalera
    @aivalera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    “If george lucas wasn’t attached to this movie it probably would’ve been forgotten in a few years.”
    2020 Update, I completely forgot about this movie.

    • @lockerpaint2955
      @lockerpaint2955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same! I have no memory of this movie at all.

    • @brew1116
      @brew1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Only reason I know about this movie is because of this review. Good review, though.

    • @realityisenough
      @realityisenough 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Never heard of this shit

    • @thatxmas
      @thatxmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      HBO just showed "Tuskegee Airmen" and the guide said "Red Tails" was coming on next. So, I watched the end of TA, where Laurence Fishburne acts out a sad, contemplative moment remembering his friends that died and it flashes back in a cheesy way to those characters' introduction scene plus one other memorable scene. But then it comes back to Fishburne curling up in his cot, with a tear in his eye and he acts the shit out of it and you feel the character's pain. And then I watched this review instead of waiting for "Red Tails" to start.

    • @luiginastro8831
      @luiginastro8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just saw it (I don't know why) and I already forgot about it!

  • @ariochiv
    @ariochiv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    I had no idea that George Lucas was involved with this movie. Now everything makes sense.

    • @EstherTheNicey
      @EstherTheNicey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Arioch IV It all makes sense now. Palatine is behind it all.

    • @FManAngryAmerican
      @FManAngryAmerican 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Arioch IV Jar Jar is the key to all of this.

    • @Dawkins007
      @Dawkins007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It's like poetry, it rhymes

    • @TheKaiTetley
      @TheKaiTetley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      FManAngryAmerican George Lucas: Adolf Hitler is the key to all this. We’ve never had a character as funny as Hitler. I based him off my favourite comedian from the silent movie era. We just need to get him to work.

  • @ryvlaw
    @ryvlaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    "It's the first all-black action movie" ... Damn George! Again ahead of his time. 6 years later and that movie might have even won an Oscar.

    • @DavidFrancis24824
      @DavidFrancis24824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There are a ton of movies with an all black cast from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and on and on and on. It has been happening for decades. You have been sold a lie that racism and sexism is alive and well in the past few years.

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DavidFrancis24824 And yet the movies that are pushed on us all & made popular aren't... why? Just look at award shows.

    • @filthyshoggoth
      @filthyshoggoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidFrancis24824 Racism and sexism are dead folks, we can go home.
      As a black woman, Grant Schweitzer here says it's all good.
      You necro'd a two year dead post to say something asinine and stupid, congrats.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope you forgot that it actually needs ALSO to be good

  • @jamesspence5492
    @jamesspence5492 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    just checkin in from 2024, dont worry jay figures out his hair.

  • @riiniim
    @riiniim 9 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    It's so dense

    • @xavi9able1
      @xavi9able1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Robert Miller Every single image has a digital effect

    • @hermanspaerman3490
      @hermanspaerman3490 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      xavi9able1 Fuck you Rick Berman!

    • @xavi9able1
      @xavi9able1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nah man.
      It's stylistically designed to be that way

    • @hermanspaerman3490
      @hermanspaerman3490 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But you have to diminish the effects of it.

    • @gavin9088
      @gavin9088 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      again it's like poetry, they rhyme.

  • @StudhouseK
    @StudhouseK 8 ปีที่แล้ว +518

    Mike's rant at about 24:30 about portraying all Germans as villainous and making a propaganda movie is absolutely spot on.

    • @endlessetudes2029
      @endlessetudes2029 8 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      We know you guys built the death star. stop lying.

    • @pizzallama7424
      @pizzallama7424 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Bubo 25 I wish they'd make a Canadian villain. It would be celebrated across our country as the one time we were portrayed as more than just really nice people

    • @vobjects
      @vobjects 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      History Buffs' Saving Private Ryan review discusses that German-Czech misunderstanding pretty well.

    • @lsgarr11
      @lsgarr11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Darkanims not all Germans fighting in the war were Nazis dude. That's like saying all Americans are apart of the KKK.

    • @MrAdamloring1985
      @MrAdamloring1985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To my recollection, the German Air Force was the most deadly and battle hardened Air Force in ww2

  • @maujo2009
    @maujo2009 9 ปีที่แล้ว +597

    I wished Plinkett reviewed this.

    • @user-mn3iq2cs9n
      @user-mn3iq2cs9n 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +Mau Jo I wish he reviewed everything. Where can you find more than what's here on youtube. Star Wars and Star Trek.

    • @maujo2009
      @maujo2009 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      陈瀚龙 redlettermedia.com

    • @user-mn3iq2cs9n
      @user-mn3iq2cs9n 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mau Jo Unfortunately, that site just has the same movies as youtube. 2 or 3 others, besides Star Wars/Trek, but that's all. So many other bad movies out there for him to do:) Hollywood has been busy for 100 years.

    • @user-mn3iq2cs9n
      @user-mn3iq2cs9n 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fourcrippledhorses Just happened to see this. Which one is blip? Who is the voice of Plinkett? Just a casual viewer, but I love the Plinkett reviews.

    • @user-mn3iq2cs9n
      @user-mn3iq2cs9n 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Alex Feehan THanks, I hear it now. Does it make sense that I think Mike is a much better reviewer as Plinkett than as himself?:)

  • @justinpyke1756
    @justinpyke1756 8 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The film almost reaches "funny bad" levels if you have knowledge of Second World War aerial combat and other historical things like that.

    • @Soridan
      @Soridan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Aw, come on. It's scientifically proven that being black lets you shrug off multiple 30mm minengeschoss to the chest. And anti gravity fields were a thing in dogfights, yo.

    • @carl5381
      @carl5381 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      and catching a ME262 in level flight thats over a hundred mph faster. Failywood strikes again

    • @venicemackay9244
      @venicemackay9244 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i would guess the bit about the pilots flying of leaving the convoy is bollocks

    • @Justa318i
      @Justa318i 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't eat a bunch of 30mm rounds in real life, but a Tuskegee airman did take down a 262

    • @Soridan
      @Soridan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So did others by that time (about sixty 262s were shot down just by americans before that happened, mostly from 8 AF (obviously not all in dogfights(parentheses, gotta love them))).
      I don't mean to diss the Tuskegee Airmen, I'm just saying I'd rather watch a movie true to their real achievements instead of a movie that has gone full Lucas.

  • @TheZealo
    @TheZealo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    This movie is heartbreaking. But not in the way they intended. Its heartbreaking to see a good true story portrayed in such a lame way. You guys nailed it. They had all the pieces to make THE oscar bait movie, but decided to do a TV movie.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Zealote There is a better Tuskegee Airmen movie and its's called....uh, The Tuskegee Airmen. I recommend THAT over this.

    • @johnnycage6729
      @johnnycage6729 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Zealote Monuments Men was worse imo.

    • @joelhassig6099
      @joelhassig6099 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Zealote I feel the same way about "Pearl Harbor".

    • @fenwar9060
      @fenwar9060 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      So glad you mentioned it, it is by far superior.

    • @IrisCorven
      @IrisCorven 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The funnier part is that this movie was done WAY better in 1995, as a made-for-HBO film called "The Tuskeegee Airmen". Also starring Cuba Gooding Jr., oddly enough.

  • @Max11551
    @Max11551 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Now that we've successfully ended racism, we should get back to work on the VCR." Jay, 12 years ago

  • @cecilofchristmaspast4186
    @cecilofchristmaspast4186 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "Its a real, actual motion picture, based on facts. Dig that."

  • @steveharvey2102
    @steveharvey2102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    George! You didn't have to produce an entire movie to atone for Jar Jar. A simple apology would of been enough.

    • @karmabad6287
      @karmabad6287 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Steve Harvey speak for yourself. Imo opinion George owes us decades of community service.. cleaning up graffiti, picking up trash etc... I still wake up with nose bleeds from the nightmares i have of jar jars poorly conceived character.

  • @Modenut
    @Modenut 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Without his mustache Jay looks like he's 9 years old. It's so adorable! =D

    • @S2Cents
      @S2Cents 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tony McModeNut lol. He beer stay away from Hollywood then. Zing.

  • @julianwebb919
    @julianwebb919 8 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    It still baffles me that George Lucas was a peer of guys like Coppola and Spielberg.

    • @dragonphoreal
      @dragonphoreal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      George Lucas just got carried with the spectacle of visual effects. True special effects are a tool to tell a story, as he said in the 70s- 80s, but he also said that they need story to be exciting which he ended up ignoring/forgetting himself. Therefore CGI has been the only thing on his mind (in terms of filmmaking that is), such as the prequels being focused on spectacle (causing a story that had good potential to be overshadowed by superior spin off stories of the same era in the timeline), and him forcing (or rather *pesturing*) Spielberg into pitting Aliens in Indiana Jones 4.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      George was a major proponent of Special effects, a lot of his ability is shown in older movies of the 70-80s but with CGI he lost his edge.

    • @Den.Vos.Reynaerde
      @Den.Vos.Reynaerde 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Julian Webb To be fair: Coppola turned out to be a hack too. Remember 'Jack'?

    • @jvictor3048
      @jvictor3048 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Jan Frackiewicz I don't think the man responsible for The Conversation, The Godfather I and II and Apocalypse Now can ever be called a hack, no matter how low he's fallen. Same goes for Spielberg.
      They may have lost their spark for a good while now but when they were good, they were two of the best ever.

    • @Ravi-xf8dw
      @Ravi-xf8dw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThreadBomb lol wtf. No that's great film

  • @fartmcfart7524
    @fartmcfart7524 7 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    It's 2017 in the U.S. and I swear I've never heard of this movie.

    • @WakkaMadeInYevon
      @WakkaMadeInYevon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw the title "red tails" and went, "Oh, a Lucas film. Is this, like, a re;view? Wait, they reviewed this when it came out? Why have I never heard of it?"
      Really shows why I never knew about it.

    • @LosBerkos
      @LosBerkos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Weird, because it's 2019 in Poland...

  • @dragonphoreal
    @dragonphoreal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    GHOSTBUSTERS appears to be this year's RED TAILS.

    • @merzbowvevo2243
      @merzbowvevo2243 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I'd have to disagree with you for saying that Ghostbusters is this year's Red Tails. At least Red Tails tried. Barely.

    • @JCIce007
      @JCIce007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Red Tails definitely tried, but the execution was hopelessly flawed from the top down.

    • @FuriousGorge
      @FuriousGorge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah, Red Tails at least had an interesting premise.

  • @twoidiots9844
    @twoidiots9844 9 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I loved Red Tails! It's my favourite film, I saw it right after I got diagnosed with Brain Cancer!

    • @cal593
      @cal593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you sure it wasn't just before?

    • @TheKaiTetley
      @TheKaiTetley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two Idiots² 😂😂😂

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brain cancer was less painful I bet.

  • @EmperorSigismund
    @EmperorSigismund 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Damn, I met the guys who did some of the CG for this. That part of the showreel was usually accompanied by something along the lines of "In the film industry you can get to work on great films, then sometimes you have to work on this.".

  • @johnnycareless9933
    @johnnycareless9933 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That bit where one of the pilots swoops down on a German cruiser (in the Mediterranean, who'd of known!) and shoots it with his machine guns and it explodes (cruisers weren't armoured or anything like that). That was great.

  • @aaronsustaita277
    @aaronsustaita277 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s funny to look back at this movie and the same marketing tactic is used today.

    • @DoctorJammer
      @DoctorJammer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly how Sound of Freedom was marketed.

  • @sigh280
    @sigh280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love that you mentioned Glory. Glory does everything right when trying to tell a story like this. The characters do feel real, their character arcs are impactful (even in application to today's politics), and when we get that super emotional AND HISTORICAL ending, you cry. Glory took itself seriously, while also allowing for the actors to bring humanity into their performances. Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Andre Braugher, and Jihmi Kennedy bring the voices of the men of the 54th to life. Even with Matthew Broderick (as Colonel Robert Shaw) as the lead, and Cary Elwes as well, the movie prioritizes the voices of the whole of the 54th rather then making it a "they vs us" race baiting situation. Glory tells the story of the men of the 54th fighting side by side overcoming predjudice to fight for freedom, during one of the most infamous wars in American history: the Civil War. It's a damn good movie, and I recommend everyone should see it. Glory puts any movie that tries this kinda stuff (like Redtails) to shame. Glory is a movie you can't get away with making today, but its a film that should never be forgotten because of that. Every actor brings their A-game and so do the writers, directors, and reenactors who worked hard to bring the story of the 54th to life. They did it to tell a story, not sell a product, and damn did they succeed.

    • @filthyshoggoth
      @filthyshoggoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glory is Lost Cause myth trash.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@filthyshoggoth Glory has nothing to do with the lost cause myth because it’s told from the perspective of the union/black units, not confederates

    • @filthyshoggoth
      @filthyshoggoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mckenzie.latham91 It isn't as bad as the director's next civil war movie, sure.

  • @LocalMultiplex
    @LocalMultiplex 9 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Wasn't Bad Boys a black action movie?

    • @ZoddGuts
      @ZoddGuts 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      +KingTekins Doesn't count, it was film by a white guy.

    • @davewilson5413
      @davewilson5413 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ZoddGuts gotta love that

    • @clemfandango3041
      @clemfandango3041 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Will smiths white

    • @luciuspaullus1948
      @luciuspaullus1948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael bay directed

    • @monsieurcondottiero2685
      @monsieurcondottiero2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was really more of a blacktion movie, so to speak

  • @pablohenriquez1984
    @pablohenriquez1984 9 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Finally someone talks about how amazing Glory is

    • @nilswaage7626
      @nilswaage7626 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +pablo henriquez
      Thanks to this, I rewatched it this weekend and was blown away by how good it was even the second time around.

    • @greenmanatee3368
      @greenmanatee3368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was very pleasantly surprised when they played this in my jAmerican history class a couple years ago

    • @Fatalismic
      @Fatalismic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The opening scene is fucking UNBELIEVABLE

    • @jbug1979
      @jbug1979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True!!!!

    • @kingsleycy3450
      @kingsleycy3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watched it in a class. It was so good that the class was completely quiet throughout.

  • @NeriahElOlam
    @NeriahElOlam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's interesting looking back at this, the first action movie with an all black cast. Especially after seeing Black Panther, the first action movie with an all black cast.

  • @DoDPUB
    @DoDPUB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Marvel did the same thing with Black Panther. They said it was the first all black cast for a movie.

    • @cornparade6874
      @cornparade6874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they didn't, but people like to pretend they did for internet clout
      It's got two fairly prominent white characters among other people that appear in it and were in all the marketing.

  • @Mapmaker39
    @Mapmaker39 9 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Three years later, nobody remembered this film. Everybody will remembered 12 Years a Slave and Selma more than Red Tails. George Lucas failed as a Storyteller and a business man.

    • @simbiote89
      @simbiote89 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Trystan McClellan I literally heard about this film a week or two ago.

    • @Mapmaker39
      @Mapmaker39 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      WalterLiddy How is it rehashed? Just curious because I don't think it isn't really rehashed or hell a typical Oscar bait and this is based on a book that was told from a point of view by a Slave which is directed by a British black man which is rare to see in any Hollywood movies (yeah, Django Unchained did it, but that was more of a cartoonish exploitation film than the realism in 12 years of Slave and 12 years a Slave is an older material that survive for years vs ripped off material from the 60's) and it isn't safe with their material and really brutal. Yeah, it have tropes and cliches, but something new and original have them too. I think it will be like Schindler's List where people in American history classes would show this film to show its depiction. But what's your point that something am missing?

    • @I_HATE_THE_TOS
      @I_HATE_THE_TOS 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      George Lucas is a billionaire, his movies make hundreds of millions of dollars, even if they're bad, and he sells a ton of merchandise. So, no George Lucas is not a bad businessman, he's actually a great businessman, one of the best. He does fail as a film maker though, I'll agree with you on that.

    • @Mapmaker39
      @Mapmaker39 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** No, they don't. They just need to be good and memorable. Which Red Tails wasn't.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Trystan McClellan
      I think its telling how those two films gathered such huge praise and respect for their story and they too were based on real figures and real events. I can only guess that Twelve Years a Slave and Selma did one thing that Red Tails did not and that was over-glorify itself as the be all end all of Black cinema. You can tell by the way Lucas is talking in those interviews that he views himself morally superior to the people he claimed wouldn't take the film and listed off a bunch f reasons why he ASSUMED they would not take the film. I remember watching the Tuskegee Airmen film that the guys are talking about back when I was 12 or so and loving it because it was interesting, entertaining and it didn't sugarcoat or try to be Star Wars when telling the story.
      To me, Lucas sounded so arrogant in how he was portraying himself to be this victim of the industry when HE IS THE INDUSTRY. He has millions in the bank and even if he was turned down, he still could have made this movie ON HIS OWN as he has enough funds himself to do so. He made himself out as some sort of poor, starving film-maker who is just being torn down by the Hollywood bullies when we all know that's a load of bull. As someone above me commented, he has been doing this for YEARS and made loads off it so I don't see how or why he thinks he's the victim in all of this when people will still come to him and ask for him to make movies, no matter the level of quality they are. Yes, Red Tails was a flop but if there is anything we can learn from it it's that you still need SUBSTANCE in your story. It feels like people were relying just on the fact that the cast was mostly Black as a means of drawing people in and after hearing a lot of BLACK critics just deflate after it came out it was just sad. It was sad because people got themselves hyped up, were made to believe this was going to be a breakthrough epic of some sort and it wasn't. It was just MEH with a big name to back it.
      Twelve Years a Slave and Selma DESERVE the praise they get because they were out to make a STORY, NOT to claim that they were the BEST nor did they talk down to the public who were still making up their minds whether to see them or not. These two movies and their directors were not making people feel guilty. They didn't cry and whine in interviews and I'm sure as hell that these stories got more shit than Red Tails because they didn't have the titles under their belt like Lucas did. These two films got the respect they deserved by delivering a story, a message, and a peak of history. Lucas just expected people to hand him praise on a platter because he was Lucas.

  • @mrECisME
    @mrECisME 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "A massive movement on Social Media to go see the movie. " So this was Black Panther before Black Panther.

  • @huismands
    @huismands 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This very review is more well-known and successful than the movie being reviewed.

  • @Jackmono1
    @Jackmono1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    "These men are pawns."

    • @adamfrisk956
      @adamfrisk956 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jackmono1 We don’t care.

    • @tyedye1107
      @tyedye1107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They were just a couple of songwriters...

    • @justafox5356
      @justafox5356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      3,2,3,4-4,2,3 AND-

  • @cabe3231
    @cabe3231 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There was already film about "The Tuskegee Airmen" before "Red Tails" starring Laurence Fishburne, Allan Payne, Vicellous Shannon, Courtney Vance and... Cuba Gooding Jr.

  • @3.2Carrera
    @3.2Carrera 8 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This film had the look and script of a video game.

    • @ryanmitchell2185
      @ryanmitchell2185 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That's insulting to videogames lol. There's been plenty of videogames that have storylines with depth, emotion, and well developed character arcs. It would be more accurate to say that this movie has the look and script of any soulless or single dimensional work of media

    • @ryanmitchell2185
      @ryanmitchell2185 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's insulting to videogames lol. There's been plenty of videogames that have storylines with depth, emotion, and well developed character arcs. It would be more accurate to say that this movie has the look and script of any soulless or single dimensional work of media

    • @dragonphoreal
      @dragonphoreal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Ryan Mitchell HYPER LIGHT DRIFTER for instance uses *not words* but visuals, mood, and players' imagination to tell its story and lore, serving as the lead director's way to express his struggle with heart disease (through the main character) while being a solid game experience with rewarding exploration and great + challenging combat.

    • @dragonphoreal
      @dragonphoreal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Brandon Dozier Also HYPER LIGHY DRIFTER's storytelling through visuals gives it the feel of a Miyazaki film.

    • @APPEALtoFEAR
      @APPEALtoFEAR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Have you even played a video game? That's awfully ignorant to just lump all video games into one category. That's no different than me saying all films are about cats.

  • @dangerdan2592
    @dangerdan2592 9 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Oprah is so cringeworthy

    • @Danaluni59
      @Danaluni59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Propaganda is generally cringeworthy

  • @Tomyboy1897
    @Tomyboy1897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "How are you going to point out that everyone is the same if you don't label them as all seperate things" is very fitting in 2018

  • @thetopcats.9154
    @thetopcats.9154 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As an aviation history buff, I still think the Tuskeegee Airmen deserve a better movie than this.

  • @earlymorninggray8646
    @earlymorninggray8646 8 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    George Lucas played the black community like a fiddle.

    • @TheKnightBlade4
      @TheKnightBlade4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Early Morning Gray well Tyler Perry's been doing it his whole career.

    • @earlymorninggray8646
      @earlymorninggray8646 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. You told no lies.

    • @SeeJay804
      @SeeJay804 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      How? None of them saw it lmao

    • @RayValdezPhotography
      @RayValdezPhotography 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      black people didnt give a fuck or at least paid to see the bullshit.

    • @reflectingh9997
      @reflectingh9997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Red Tails walked so Black Panther Could run

  • @evilemperordude
    @evilemperordude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I get the feeling Anthony Hemingway was only there because they were afraid of possible backlash over an old white man directing this sort of film.

  • @bergonath8851
    @bergonath8851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    - The movie turned out pretty bad. How are we gonna sell it?
    - *BLACK* *BLACK* *BLACK* *BLACK* *BLACK* *BLACK* *BLACK*

    • @frankmerker630
      @frankmerker630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It seemed to work out for black panther and the live action Lion King remake

    • @mooseyman74
      @mooseyman74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Michael I hope he's not ahead of his time with the borderline bestialty in kids movie Howard the Duck

  • @Dimovuha222
    @Dimovuha222 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is move where P-51 survives several 30mm hits without any damage to airframe?

    • @macbrown99
      @macbrown99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yes. Also, black skin is apparently impervious to such weapons, as the pilot of said P-51 takes several high-explosive cannon rounds to the chest and shrugs them off like he was hit with spitballs. Meanwhile, the .50 cal machine guns aboard his aircraft manage to cause an entire cruiser to explode into flames after a second or two of firing straight into the armored turret and deck.
      Truly, an inspirational film of grand historical accuracy. It shall be remembered for generatio-ohwait no it is already long forgotten.

    • @ATBatmanMALS31
      @ATBatmanMALS31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 .50s, what a trash plane

  • @raylena15
    @raylena15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Ok, so first of all, for the tiny record, I'm an African American professor in Detroit--Wayne State University (Cornell is my alma mater). I have taught film studies (English Dept.) and I am absolutely LOVING your review of "Red Asses" as I like to call it. Blood lust, cartoons, FLAT, cornball patriotic WWII movies, style defeats the purpose, unreal characters, dialogue on-the-nose, bad editing, phony, no heart or feeling, secretly directed god-awful script secretly directed by George Lucas, and so on....
    These are your comments and they are each as true as the sun in the sky. Every word you said were the thoughts that I had, and so far I have heard only insane positive comments about this horribly racist, foolish film. I am one of the Black people in the theater you felt sorry for, and believe me, I felt sorry for myself for having spent money on this stiff, affirmative action goofing, overhyped bull crap. From the very beginning I sat there in fear of the inevitable moment when a Black character, would shout, "WHOOOOOOOO!" (as always in a bad Hollywood film or TV commercials, of documentary, or fast food ad).
    Sorry, I DO believe the movie wasn't touched by the studios Lucas approached because of racism, and that "Glory", which you are correct, was the antithetical GOOD film compared to "Red Asses", but you are wrong to gloss over the fact that Mathew Broderick is the 'shoe in' for studio acceptance. That IS a very common and for me by now disgusting reality about Hollywood. Black history, thought, and life is ritually 'shoed in' to American film through the inclusion of a White actor (he's the shoe in).
    You are understating the MASSIVE reality of racism in the medium of film and television. Consider the recent Golden Globe award given to a nonexistent film, "Hidden Fences". To White viewers this was I guess an honest mistake? (I hasten to add, that "Hidden booties" as I call is it just another "Red Asses" without planes but with space capsules and the inevitable "WHOOOO") To Black viewers of Golden Globes, this foolish flub was exactly what we experience in our every single day life: only two freaking Black films being awarded, and they had to conflate the two titles?? Believe me, co workers who have known me for years still do that to my freaking NAME(!?) One of my graduating students recently appeared on her Texas grad school's lists as "Opra Winfrey" (!?) (first name actually Donna).
    I can't afford to be as magnanimous as you are about the mighty fog of both primitive racism and 'careless' racism that marks Black life at the atomic level. My Black friends in the industry (including award winning independent Black director, Andre Seewood--I challenge you to interview him, he is the author of a book, "Slave Cinema") talk CONSTANTLY of the truth of everything Lucas says about the reaction to his film. Particularly hideous is the claim that Black films cannot be marketed overseas, though Blacks who travel on their own dime to France and Italy find out that they can be. They are. Just not by the major White studios, distributors, producers, and marketers. Andre can explain that to you--Spike Lee does not represent hundreds of independent Black filmmakers such as Andre who experience this crap constantly.
    Nevertheless, I am glad you did this review and that you achieved what I think is the perfect tone. You were careful, detailed, technical (Black movies and directors deserve technical analysis when they are good, as well as technically legitimate criticism when they are bad), and you paid the subject of Black film respect by not being afraid to still be mocking and humorous, which is your hallmark. You made a point of being truthful, and you said exactly what you think without any fear or any patronizing of Black people, and I love that. DO MORE BLACK MOVIES, good and (mostly) bad.

    • @liamf2300
      @liamf2300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That comment was longer than my English essay

    • @clericjack
      @clericjack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Would think a college professor would know NOT to present a treatise as a huge block of text.

    • @michaelmcgee8189
      @michaelmcgee8189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@clericjack she did paragraphs, she just didnt remember to hit enter *twice*, because college professors don't write youtube comments all day. a word processor that grownups use all day would be indenting, automatically, so you don't need extra lines to break up paragraphs.

    • @RayValdezPhotography
      @RayValdezPhotography 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yeah I think they are in a little bubble in the racism angle. Also they were kinda wrong now that we have recently seen people or at least trolls claim to boycott blackness in movies.

    • @janemothra
      @janemothra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mitchellhorton9382 You didn't read her comment, what the hell are you talking about, and do you have a point other than white people out number black people and therefore matter more?

  • @brandandengler8919
    @brandandengler8919 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    And wait didn't Oprah Winfrey get nominated for the color purple. And didn't Denzel Washington get nominated for Glory.

    • @Myrth1
      @Myrth1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Denzel Washington literally has his career started by Glory as far as movies go, since St. Elsewhere barely made him into "whatshisface TV star of one role" (and you should probably know how this usually goes after stuff like GoT, Supernatural and few other and their "starts" trying to break out).
      I finally saw Glory two weeks ago. Solid stuff - not perfect, but solid. A bit corny, but in the sense of "late 80s American Civil War movie that tries to be ground-breaking, but really can't, since it's late 80s", rather than "George Lucas is a complete hack" type of corn.

  • @youreallinsane
    @youreallinsane 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yup. This movie was forgotten in less than 1 year.

  • @hoshkins
    @hoshkins 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I loved this movie when it was called "The Tuskegee Airmen".

  • @MihitsTilozi
    @MihitsTilozi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seems like the same marketing strategy for this film was used and failed for the Sony Ghostbusters. "The movie is groundbreaking, and if you don't think so you're a -ist!"

  • @BratacOfChulak
    @BratacOfChulak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    "a movie about getting over racism is abit out of date" wait till you get to 2016

    • @philswift1252
      @philswift1252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Magnificent Xefox what are you talking about

    • @holdenraymorris
      @holdenraymorris 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ThreadBomb the black guys who went on a racially fueled murder spree in baton rouge and dallas were also "good people"

    • @DarthVader1977
      @DarthVader1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @DejaVoodooDoll Colin Flaherty's videos on TH-cam, Bitchute and Minds.

    • @cal593
      @cal593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wait 'til you get to 2020.

    • @bjlm2953
      @bjlm2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait till you get to 2040....
      Anyone?

  • @DoctorJammer
    @DoctorJammer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This exactly what Javier Navarrete & Jim Caviezel did with Sound of Freedom. Claiming no one wanted make this film and that there is a moral obligation to watch it.

  • @b.p.5324
    @b.p.5324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "every time i see the lucasfilm stamp, i break out in hiiives"
    I feel you, dude

  • @groinBlaster31
    @groinBlaster31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    George Lucas was far ahead of his time when it comes to playing the race card for marketing purposes

  • @Neitenth
    @Neitenth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Usually when an enemy soldier invites himself into the home of a woman he finds attractive it's a setup for rape, and Red Tails is no exception.

  • @NealX
    @NealX 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I really hope Jay has seen Glory since when this was recorded, it deserved every Academy Award it got.

  • @lc9245
    @lc9245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I first watched Men of Honour, I wasn't aware that the Navy diver was black. I was blissfully enjoying a movie about a person facing hardship and overcome it with determination.

  • @DerMannInDerWand
    @DerMannInDerWand 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:49 - "It'd be a completely forgotten movie in a couple years"
    It already is

  • @mychaleg
    @mychaleg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was last year and they look ten years younger. Some downright presidential aging

    • @NextGen_Pants
      @NextGen_Pants 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was uploaded in 2015, it was made in 2012.

  • @Magik2702
    @Magik2702 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Sticking it to Hollywood and supporting George Lucas"

    • @samuelG009
      @samuelG009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @fewwiggle
      @fewwiggle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The level of stupidity in that quote --- who bought that happy horse-shit?

  • @corriblehunt4554
    @corriblehunt4554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    George Lucas: "It's an all black cast"
    He thought Brian Cranston was black because he'd heard he played a drug dealer

    • @q1q2q23
      @q1q2q23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oof

  • @Name-se3lf
    @Name-se3lf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can't believe this came out in 2012, it feels like 2002 now

  • @TheMarshmelloKing
    @TheMarshmelloKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How are you supposed to show that people are all the same except by pointing out all their differences

  • @edibleapeman
    @edibleapeman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "It's 2012."
    That was said twelve years ago.
    I need a shower.

  • @GAMESYSTEMHUNTER
    @GAMESYSTEMHUNTER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i didnt forget this movie. since i absolutely love air combat games and movies, this was a must watch for me. i dont give two shits that the cgi looks like it was made on a dreamcast. its ww2 planes shooting at each other, and that is a massive win for me.

  • @neliz2k
    @neliz2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am from 2020, remember 2017's Starship Troopers re:view, where they made fun of how much rich changed in just 5 years (2012-2017).. you'll never suspect that they don't look like these nerds anymore.

  • @imp2247
    @imp2247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Every time I see the Lucasfilm stamp I break out in hives." Lol wtf?

  • @SharpEdgeSoda
    @SharpEdgeSoda ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "No one has ever said they are not going to see a movie because black people are in it."
    Man, 2012 was a different time, and yet, the same.

  • @qwer58j
    @qwer58j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They brought in black soldiers because the white ones keep wandering off.....
    That is such a weird plot point.

    • @happycats685
      @happycats685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It works as an analogy though. One reason the current ✡️ run system prefers blacks is because they cannot self-organize against the state, but whites have - and can again.

  • @mrsleep0000
    @mrsleep0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ya gotta love George Lucas... just pretending the genre of Blaxploitation didn't exist...

  • @singaporesammy
    @singaporesammy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In fairness, digging a tunnel in the woods is a lot harder than just outside the woods. Tree roots are a nightmare.

  • @channelname5477
    @channelname5477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have never heard of this movie. In fact, the first time I seen the thumbnail and read the title of the video, is the first time Ive seen anything about this movie, ever.

  • @shoopdawoop32
    @shoopdawoop32 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    He might have gone too far in a few places...

  • @MsSphinx91
    @MsSphinx91 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Yeah, I remember Black people trying to rally behind this movie and then we were all disappointed, but didn't really want to admit it. No one even talks about it anymore.
    I think it would be nice if not every movie with a large Black cast had "struggling against racism and poverty" as its main theme. It's not like those stories don't deserve to be told, but that's not the whole sum of the African American experience. That's why I appreciate Will Smith movies despite what some may think about him.
    That said, you can't make a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen without talking about racism. They consistently had to deal with racism in a military that undervalued African American soldiers; they held themselves to a such a high standard because they knew they were the representation of the Black soldiers who would follow (and probably because they didn't want to die either); and they were fighting a regime that was trying to build a blond-hair-blue-eyed master race and imprisoning millions of ethnic minorities. Race isn't just an "angle" here, it's kind of important to the story! With good direction, this could have been another Glory: a good action movie with insightful social commentary. I'm kind of annoyed that Mike said we didn't "need" another movie like that. How many great war movies have the same theme as another great war movie?
    But yeah, they're right: the movie was not good.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      MsSphinx91 I'd get behind you on that. It's gotten to the point where it feels that even we have accepted that as the only means of delivering stories.

    • @MsSphinx91
      @MsSphinx91 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** ..... Perhaps? I think it's just modern day Blaxploitation. It's easy drama, likely Academy nominations, diversity points, and guaranteed asses in seats. I think Hollywood cares more about guaranteed return on investment than making any particular group feel bad. If people are saying you're racist for not liking these types of movies, I think that's an issue with the audience, not a studio conspiracy.

  • @jackmaniacki
    @jackmaniacki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The face scar thing is a real historical thing and has a cultural context. They're called Schmisse and they were fencing scars that were a mark of prestige.

  • @HomeofdaBONE
    @HomeofdaBONE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    $58 million budget
    $50 million worldwide total box office
    oof

  • @bilwisss
    @bilwisss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i do hope we get a Red Tails holiday special for T.V...

  • @Sphere723
    @Sphere723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Facial dueling scars were popular in Germany for upper class young men. They were more or less a college frat ritual which were supposed to convey both status and bravery. Although their popularity had faded somewhat by WWII, it would not be uncommon for German officers to have them. After the war they went away entirely which is why they seem odd to modern eyes.

  • @dynamicvoltage9765
    @dynamicvoltage9765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All those studios that passed on Red Tails were right. It bombed. It's not about racism, it's about demographics. It doesn't tick any boxes that ANY demographic wants to see. If you're going to make a movie like this you'd better get Will Smith or Denzel Washington to be in it.

  • @ssoory6343
    @ssoory6343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If i hadnt watched this video, i wouldve never known this movie existed. And if i had watched this movie, i wouldve still needed this video to remind me of it.

  • @patrickthomas8890
    @patrickthomas8890 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s wild how Star Wars prequel-apologists are blind to the fact that George Lucas is a HORRENDOUS director. He’s been great at producing movies

  • @brandandengler8919
    @brandandengler8919 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The problem with George Lucas is what they said in another review, that when he takes control over a film he ruins it. That's why Star wars was so great and memorable. He had to consult with other people who would not mind telling him his ideas are stupid. Race has nothing to do with the movie, he wanted people to get rallied up for the movie so they would go see it.

    • @greenmanatee3368
      @greenmanatee3368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Makes me feel bad that he and his first wife got divorced in 1983. From what I've read she was a damn good editor who had worked on multiple Martin scores sees films and even won the Oscar for best editing with the original movie. According to interviews she was one of the only few people George would listen to and take criticism from, and Mark Hamill said that he felt like George would've made better movies nowadays had they stayed as partners.

    • @greenmanatee3368
      @greenmanatee3368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Kevin Petrak *Martin Scorsesee

  • @zeo278
    @zeo278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2021 here. I had no idea this film existed. And im a big star trek wars fan.

  • @drinniol8931
    @drinniol8931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Watching this almost a decade later, the way Mike and Jay laugh about how Lucas made it all about race like it’s some unusual cultural anomaly is fascinating; Considering that by 2020 the entire mainstream culture is obsessed with race. It is really telling.

  • @BlackPantherFTW
    @BlackPantherFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video keeps punching me in the face with the fact that 2012 was 7 years ago

  • @Halinspark
    @Halinspark 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From a few years on the future, I can safely say we all forgot about it anyway.

  • @kalibos
    @kalibos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    SEEN ANY GOOD MOVIES LATELY?

    • @TheThelaughingboy
      @TheThelaughingboy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +kalibos NO

    • @Gacko54
      @Gacko54 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Space Cop

    • @dartharmis5562
      @dartharmis5562 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I heard that movie was made by a group of hack frauds.

    • @Gacko54
      @Gacko54 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Darth Armis it's stylistically designed to be that way.

  • @marcusrosier1910
    @marcusrosier1910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It's hard to believe a studio would refuse to support a film purely because it has a black cast, when the movie sucked, and George Lucas using that as a means to promote his trash movie is offensive

  • @Sjocojate
    @Sjocojate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Why do they have to label everyone's race all the time? "
    Nail on the head.

  • @TakeNoteOfThat
    @TakeNoteOfThat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A real actual motion picture based on facts

  • @luckyspurs
    @luckyspurs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Orson Welles literally put on Macbeth with an all black cast in 1936.

  • @Tom_Van_Zandt
    @Tom_Van_Zandt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jay should 100% watch Glory ASAP. It's a fucking masterpiece. It's a movie that stirs up a lot of emotions, but it earns every emotional beat in the film. It doesn't make you feel ways about stuff just because the music and dialogue tells you that you should.
    It gets me every time when the 54th is marching in front of all the other regiments, and the one dude says "Give 'em hell, 54!
    It gets me every single goddamn time.

  • @terraLiquidus
    @terraLiquidus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Future checking in. In “Dunkirk” you couldn’t even fucking see Tom Hardy’s face and it was infinitely better and he was less than a third. George Lucas ruined the chance for a world war 1 “Harlem Hellfighters” movie because he sucks so bad.