Mother! Is basically a Neil Breen film. The leading man plays god, the plot centers around a magic rock, and the leading lady spends most of the movie without a bra. 10/10
Saw it with an elderly couple who walked out with a WTF look on their faces once it was over, I remember the woman saying "I thought this was supposed to be a romance movie?".
+NeuronalAxon I started watching RLM around the time Rogue One came out, so no plinkett reviews for me. I'm a Star Wars fan and heard about the controversy surrounding their Rogue One review and decided to check it out. After watching the review, I wasn't able understand the big fuss some people were having. Maybe it's just me.
its**. I'm just pointing it out because the first time I read your comment I didn't understand it. I don't mean to play smartass or anything, I'm not even a native speaker
NoTodoEsArte - seriously? My phone added an apostrophe to its and that caused you enough distress to warrant a reply? Sorry, I'll have a talk with someone in the apostrophe department at LG first thing tomorrow. Obviously I'm just poking fun. Sorry about confusion bud.
I didn't get it, because I went into this movie without reading anything about it and I'm not religious(even though most of the stories were the really known ones). Zero reason to think someone would make a movie about just retelling bible stories. Like wtf is the point ? I mean I know the director, I liked most of his previous work, but I thought this was going to be a straight psychological thriller based on the beginning.
@@pulkmees I grew up religious and so got some of the religious allegory... buuuuut... it wasn't well done and still didn't really make sense, even looking at it that way. I think the director just did what he wanted and didn't really think any of it through. Like the randomness of her drinking that yellow mixture, and then stopping, and it's never bought up again.
@Drog .NDTrax thats such a pretentious statement, it doesnt matter if a movie has methapors or not what matters will always be the story, lawrance does nothing shes just being a victim in this movie shes not a charecter shes just a victim its no different from any home invasion film but somehow its a masterpiece because of the methapors? So movies that suck can be great if they get inside an editing room and add in some methapors? I tought it was good writing ,good story and narrative but okey i guess methapors is the only thing that matters now, We dont dislike this movie because we dont understand it im pretty sure everyone understood its messege but if your just gonna use methapors for 2 hours without compelling charecters then thats just lazy writing , you can have methapors and charecters that feel like charecters but somehow every film student now just thinks about the occult messege instead of making a good story or narrative , events are not story
"Humanity is bad and the earth was better off without it"...did you like my point? That'll be $8.95 in humanity money that i need to survive as a human.
For real... Once I saw a matinee ticket costing $15 suddenly the whole experience of attending sank to the level of going to a yodling concert. I'm not talking about going to this Aronofsky movie. I wouldn't go even if somebody gave me a ticket and paid me to watch this, but just in general this is what the downfall of cinema looks like. Quality goes down and the prices go up, a winning equation.
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay "It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay "It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay "It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay "It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
Interesting enough my friend thought the movie was a metaphor for celebrity culture and how people (celebs and social media stars) have a huge disregard for privacy and always have the need to share everything with everyone because of their egos. It shows how we tend to treat celebs like gods and not normal people. The child being passed around and killed was a metaphor for when these very people share every single aspect of their children that they have basically doomed them to a fate in the spotlight that could eventually kill them (also a metaphor for child actors who went off the deep end). JLaw being called a slut, stripped and getting beaten for it harkens back to her photo scandal and how certain people treated and see her differently for it. I truly bought this interpretation from my friend until I watched the director's interview and we FUCKING WASTED OUR TIME THINKING TOO HARD OVER A SHALLOW ASS MOVIE.
But I mean death of the author right? I can totally see that interpretation which in a way means it’s true. Does it really matter what the director thinks when you can draw that totally valid interpretation?
Exactly like you said. I loved the movie and thought it was really clever... but I'm a UK citizen who's been raised atheist and knows jack all about the Bible. I thought the movie was about a controlling spouse, he never takes her side, lets random people into the house without even explaining who they are, he cared about himself while she cared about themselves. Reading all the references to the Bible online afterwards was actually quite fun, although all of this is somewhat of a flaw for me. If the movie was supposed to be about something so specific, it probably shouldn't have flown so far over my head lol
This movie reminded me of a couple apartments I had in my mid 20s. My roommates had people over day and night, often people would just show up uninvited. They ate and drank the groceries I bought, made a big fucking mess, broke stuff. I knew if I objected or tried to kick people out I would be treated as the crazy person, so I didn't bother. I also have a social anxiety disorder that was crippling at that point in my life, so confrontation wasn't something that I had the capacity to handle then. I took this movie as a literal, surrealistic interpretation of the type of living situation I was trapped in, and in that regard it absolutely nails the anxiety, frustration and feeling of madness that I felt in those apartments.
I saw Possession recently and I am fascinated with it! It's such a harrowing experience, watching it for the first time, not quite knowing what to expect. You're just overwhelmed by the performances watching it. And the sad part is, barely anyone knows or talks about that movie. Jay should DEFINITELY host a Re:view episode about it!
The eating sort of worked for me.. I've always wondered why that custom exists, as it sounds awful. he depicted what i think of when i hear people mention it.
Funny thing is, I actually did see this in theaters with my grandmother. We just wanted to watch a new release movie after our enjoyable lunch at Cheddars. She was not a fan to say the least and did not speak to me on the ride home.
Sooo... they basically took the "An Unexpected Party" chapter of _The Hobbit,_ padded it out to two hours, and threw in some assault and infanticide to up the edge factor...?
Mother Earth being portrayed as innocent, good and forgiving is ridiculous in of itself. Because nature is extremely violent. Animals having to kill each other for survival and natural disasters are not something that man created. Jennifer Lawrence should have been portrayed as having split personalities or something. Nice and calm one minute, and raging and screaming with a knife the next minute.
@@adamw116 I've seen a lot of her movies and have never gotten a sense of her playing different characters. She can do sad face, scared face. She just plays herself. A lot of the time, not even that well.
Visitormassacre that’s the dumbest shit I have ever heard . Trees don’t come back when you have destroyed the environment, when you have put so many chemicals into the atmosphere that the earths natural barrier and protection from the sun , you know the thing called the Ozone layer , that little thing that makes it possible for life to flourish on this planet ! Yah , dinosaurs didn’t destroy the Ozone layer , yes they ate trees BUT they didn’t bulldoze down millions of acres of forest , they didn’t destroy the coral reefs that bring the ocean to life or dump Chemiclas into our oceans . You know that other little thing called water that makes it Possible for life to flourish on this planet . Yes there has always been climate change , the continents have changed and shifted and the life on earth adapted . This is very very different when you destroy far more then you can ever replace to keep the natural balance the earth needs to retain life . Yes Dino’s , cows , ancient people , released gassed into the atmosphere but no where near the amount we do now and what we do now is NOT natural . We have destroyed the oceans and much of the life in it , wrecking the natural order of things and the ocean slowly dies . We have ripped holes in the atmosphere so bad the polar ice caps that have been there for thousands and sometimes millions of years are freaking melting at alarming rates AND is leading to lakes and rivers drying up everywhere , crops dying because of that . The hurricanes the storms , the colder winters and hotter summers , it’s all because of the holes we created in the atmosphere. It’s because of the ignorance of people like you this planet is dying. Of course over thousands /millions of years the earth goes through changes , that’s natural . We however have significantly speed up global warming . When you bulldozer rainforest and so much land that the earth can’t possible replenish itself and destroy and pollute the oceans what do you think is going to happen
@@jimjam7928 Welcome to the Redlettermedia comment section. As the crew once said in one of the wheel of the worst episodes "That's the same shit they've been saying for 5 years!"
You guys are the fucking realest movie YT channel ever. Skip over most shit like American Assassin, Emoji Movie etc and just talk about the movies that deserve discussion. Props for that.
kleptooohhyena Would have loved to see them talk about "The Emoji Movie" to be honest. They genuinely hate product placement and tackling a movie that was basically all product placement would have been somewhat cathartic.
I remember when I saw Javier Bardem in No Country For Old men and thought how great he was and looked forward to seeing what he did next. Then he made bad decision after bad decision for the next 10 years.
23:46 I love how Mike let that Reefer Madness reference sink in and then just silently cracked up after processing it in his mind while Jay kept talking.
I literally just finished watching this. The symbolism is right on the nose BUT I really enjoyed it. It's worth it just to watch it go completely off the rails. You know exactly where it's going but I enjoyed the ride. Worth a rental
Yeah it's definitely worth watching. I don't know if I liked it or not, but it was entertaining, especially the bat shit second half. I wish it flowed together better though...the obvious Genesis metaphors from the first half were kind of at odds with the second half. If it were a tight 90 minute movie that flowed a little better, I think it'd be a legitimate cult classic. I also laughed at the baby scene...not in a bad way though, I thought it was just blackly comic how quickly it escalated and how absurd the Christian metaphor is when literalized like that. I wish there had been more of that black absurdism in the rest of the movie.
I'm so glad I sa it in theatres, because the impact of this movie is just gigantic during the war scenes, with the house coming down and everything. I felt sick afterwards, but in a good way.
I love how straightforward you tell the plot xD. All other reviews I've seen are trying to keep the plot spoiler free like, "Hey, I'm gonna try and tell you about this movie, but I can't cause the whole movie is a spoiler." type of attitude xD.
When I first watched this movie I was convinced it was an experimental exercise to induce panic attacks or as extreme a reaction from the viewer as possible, but the more I think about it the more I realize the directors and writers probably aren’t that clever.
Jay, thank you very much for introducing me to Possession. I had never heard of it before, and I just watched it and it's pretty much the best thing ever. Please do a Re:View on it at some point.
killamagillagorilla Shia LaBouf as god. "And on the seventh day god took to rest and beckons his angels to continue his works. They declined for fear of bringing ruin and the lord did say JUST DO IT!"
There is nothing independent about this movie. It's a Paramount film with a wide release. Aesthetically and in its script, it's weird in the same way as a lot of independent and arthouse films, but it's not one of them.
the fact that the whole scenario repeats at the end and we are told that this is just a cycle basically makes "Mother's" ordeal pointless. Totally undercuts the emotional consequences of what we had just witnessed over the previous two hours.
@@lucasmossman3820 I never said he did. Whatever comment I responded to is gone now, so the actual context is lost. It has been many years since I've seen requiem for a dream, but I remember my problem with it being a distinct lack of attachment or care for the characters because of how they were written. I felt nothing for the suffering they went through because of it, and without that, there's little value in the film for me. The technical qualities of the film should serve to bolster the experience of the story and characters, but since I cared for neither, it failed to impress me. It boredered on pretentious for me, which I define as focusing on technical features or grander themes without enough care for actually making an engaging experience. I didn't understand why everyone cried at it when I was bored instead. I can't give details because it has been so long ago though.
"You don't look at a science fiction film to see our reality..."- Jay Baumann I guess Jay has never seen a science fiction film, which highlight current social issues ALL THE TIME.
Apocalypse Now, Lost Highway, Melancholia, Old Boy, No Country for Old Men. Lots of movies shift gears. You might be able to make a case that SOME of those were jumbled messes, not all of them.
From Dusk till Dawn I would not rank next to it cause the literal appeal of that movie is how much a disconnect the two parts of the movie have. If u were to try to take the movie seriously it would just be bad as mother! but mother! doesnt have the humor factor as much as From Dusk till Dawn.
Wow, it's so crazy how different people interpret different things. I watched this with no prior knowledge of what it was supposed to be about. I had no idea about the director's intended religious overtones nor his attempt to create a metaphor about man's relationship with earth. To me, this was just a story about abusive relationships. The insanity in the house and JLaw's attempts to justify it and keep it all together felt like a metaphor for the way people rationalize their own toxic relationships. In my mind, the house signified the relationship itself, that's why JLaw was trapped there while everyone else could come and go as they pleased. The husband was your typical artist, more in love with his work than his own family, hence his willingness to sacrifice his child in order to get the praise he craves. "You didn't love me, you only loved how much I loved you." That was the whole story in a nutshell for me. Everything Mike and Jay are saying here totally makes sense, especially when you see it in the context of Arronofsky's own words. However, the way this film resonated with ME was something else entirely. I loved the shit out of it.
This is why I don't like when people explain their art. You watched the movie and got something interesting and different out of it. But since the director has flat out said, "this is what the movie means..." It turns your unique interpretation of the movie (and all other interpretations of it) into nothing but an incorrect explanation. IMO, that kinda sucks.
Same here. I really liked Mother, more for how it made me feel that for what it tried to say. I love when movies try to challenge the viewer by making it unconfortable, pushing the envelope to what pictures can convey. Not since early Lynch have I felt so uneasy watching a film. Then I watched some Aronofsky interviews and I said to myself "oh, no...this guy loves to eat his own shit..."
Chimutrufio Gumercindo Ibañez del Campo - Have you ever seen the movie Pi? It's by the same director as Mother, but it's a little reminiscent of early Lynch stuff. Not in a huge way; it just has that famous uncomfortable Lynch-style atmosphere, a bit like Eraserhead but with the weirdness toned way down. It's definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it already; you seem like the type that would also enjoy it.
I feel like metaphors and symbolism like this were intended despite what he's said about the movie. I really enjoyed it because I felt that it spoke about a lot of different topics and ideas within one story. Their relationship definitely was a large part of it, and I feel the toxicity of it was intended. The biblical references and comparisons to our earth only add to the film.
9:40 I was just watching this video and I swear to god I could hear some one whispering in my ear. I was fucking creeped out. So I went back to 9:40 and I realised it was Rich Evans in the background saying "what are you doing, what are you doing"
I loved everyone’s acting in it. Like yeah it’s over the top and obvious film but I appreciate the craftsmanship of it all. It’s not better than his other movies but I’m still thinking about it a week after.
lol did anyone else see the trailer for this in theatres and it had one of those 2000s era dramatic male voice overs that more or less said "THIS WILL MESS YOU UP"
Thank you, RLM, for dismantling this movie whose ads i remember flooding my media consumption a while ago. I love it when an artificially over-hyped feature turns out to be dissapointing or worse, especially if i actively chose not to spend money on it.
I saw this at a Regal Theater and it was basically a full house. Theb about 20 minutes in I think 90% of the audience checked out. Lots of talking and laughing and phone usage. Though there were 2 middle aged women sitting behind me that may have come to see it just to riff on it, because that's what they did almost from the start.
I forgot how much Jay loves the Wrestler. Man, as someone who grew up watching wrestling in the 80s, and then was horrified as an adult watching where a lot of those guys lives went in the 90s and 2000s...such a heavy movie.
quite literally the first time i saw this movie i was super high and i just remember loving it and telling everyone it was like insane and they all looked at ME like i was insane and then i made my sister watch it with me while i was sober and i slowly pieced together that everything i thought was weird and interesting was actually some weird biblical metaphor or some shit i was so pissed.
I went to see this film with my partner in theaters, after being thoroughly intrigued when watching the trailer. No joke, there was a couple in the row before ours, and the man was so furious at one point when watching the movie (the baby part), he stomped his way out of the theater through the emergency exit, leaving his poor, girlfriend awkwardly sitting there. It's nothing I've ever seen in my 28 years of movie watching...
I think we are honestly at a point now where movie criticism is more interesting than the movies themselves - sort of like how TH-cam personalities critiquing the news media is more interesting now than the actual news media.
"That was the best movie I've ever seen and I never want to be put through it again" has been my reaction to at least three Aronofsky films now, with Mother! being the best yet.
Really duplicates the stress of people barging into your house and breaking things, a new window or door being open every time you turn around even though you thought you'd locked the place down... it was like a stress dream you have while sick with a stomach bug. He nailed it, glad I watched it, will not be buying the blu-ray.
"Did they trick people into thinking this was a horror movie?" "That would be the worst thing they could've done." .....They tricked me into thinking this was a horror movie 😑
Just finished watching Mother! It's 11PM. I'm so nauseous and disturbed. Thank god that I can come here, and with that familiar sound of the stock music piano intro, I know that Mike and Jay will deconstruct it to the point of calming me down and allowing me to sleep. Thankyou for being here Mike and Jay
" I wanted to make a story about our connection with the earth"... looks at a film in which the humans have no connection with the earth. The humans literally come from nowhere and mother earth hates them from the first second. fascinating.
@@DarkAngelEU not in the least. Nature is a constant fight for survival for all life. We're better at it than most organisms due to our ability to accumulate knowledge, structures, culture, technology. Humans are part of nature. Like ants, Termites, Meercats, we alter the environment to increase our effective survival. Unlike those other species, we can sit around and talk about how unfortunate the side effects are when we're too good at it yet careless and we lose the balance and asthetics of the glories of nature. We can eve make pretentious movies that sort of express a misguided form of this sentiment.
@@DarkAngelEU it's virtually impossible to deny such vague claims with any meaningful intelligence. Obviously the climate is changing. The question is how much, are projections accurate, what's the expected outcome, are the proposed causes proportionate to what's popularly believed and what, if that's true, can be done about it. My previous reply in no sense takes any of this lightly. Do you think humans are aliens of spirits and aren't part of nature? DO you think nature is some pagan personified force that makes decisions and is trying to get even with people or is it a biological complex habitat that has trends but no supernatural will? Because the idea that "humanity isn't part of nature, and the earth is trying to wipe us out" is Captain Planet fairy tale nonsense. It isn't even self aware honest nonsense since ALL of the cautionary tales that say how bad people are and how ignorant we are and how we deserve to pay are.... all invented by HUMANS, not "nature" as a personified mind or a goddess, but PEOPLE who want to see other PEOPLE pay. My advice is, if you're an anti-natalist, stop it with the hypocrisy, start with yourself.
@@ravissary79 Lol I'm not anti-natalist, and it's not hypocritical to say that we should have less babies whilst still being alive. You're exposing some of your own ideology here. Let's first make clear that we are modern human beings. We have separated ourselves from nature, we have plenty of means to shelter ourselves from natural forces, even circumvent them, we no longer rely on the seasons or other natural phenomena to survive, so in a way we have become independent from nature to thrive. This is the modern condition of man. However, and this is what can be called the postmodern condition, there are still parts of nature we can't change and because we are thriving independently from nature, we are railing against the "edges" of how much human activity our planet can tolerate before its ecosystem starts to collapse. This is what we are witnessing today. In this way, you could say the movie isn't so much an allegory for Christianity, but it is an allegory for nature vs nurture (culture) and how those two seem to fight for control over the human condition. The movie makes a statement that culture always wins, exactly because for your reasons that all these ((linguistic)) expressions are manmade constructions: as long as there's man, there is God. However, you can't deny that climate change is real, that it is happening, and in a sense you could argue that this is like an autoimmune response of the Earth when it is being tipped out of balance, like a body fighting an infection. Even if Earth isn't trying to consciously get rid of us, it is reacting to our industrial activities, so we should be more conscientious of our behavior and moderate it in a way that doesn't disturb the planet in favor of our survival as a species and in an effort to conserve our precious ecosystems.
Goddamnit, Mike, how am I supposed to know what to think about this movie if I don't know which episode of Star Trek it reminded you of?
you win.
"I shouldn't have that reaction to a baby being slaughtered and eaten"
-Jay Bauman 2017
God bless Jay Bauman
I had the same reaction....
That's too much B movies for you, you can't be shocked by disgust anymore.
I bet Jay's Anthropophagus vhs has a certain part worn out.
Cliff Trainor
Maybe you can be cured by stop watching movies. Though it could take years.
Mother! Is basically a Neil Breen film. The leading man plays god, the plot centers around a magic rock, and the leading lady spends most of the movie without a bra. 10/10
Yes the nipple action in this movie was of the charts lmao
It REALLY is tho
3 breen salad
Neil Breen films are entertaining though.
Valerie Aust j law without a bra is ok with me 🙏
"...jennifer lawrence is like mother earth or some shit..."
this should have been the tagline for the movie
Yay, poop on those right wingers, pepe!
I like to make jokes and be the clown at my work but Mike always humbles me with his killer humor...
"mother! is the art-house version of Independence Day"
- Jay Bauman, 2017
Adam W that was great
Jesus, I laughed too hard at that.
Saw it with an elderly couple who walked out with a WTF look on their faces once it was over, I remember the woman saying "I thought this was supposed to be a romance movie?".
laughed so hard at this omg.
I am fully invested in this Jay/Plinkett marriage love story.
Aaron FitzSimons as long as there is a Jay/Plinkett porn, I'm in.
But which celebrity news outlet will spill the juicy gossip on the honeymoon night ?!
It's so dense
Mr. Plinkett is a lucky man.
I wish Mike and Jay weren't.
I've been binging RLM for the last month and this is my first new episode. It's like Christmas morning
Lol literally same here. I saw the Plinkett Ghostbusters 2016 Review and now i legit can't stop watching.
You mean you guys never caught the Plinkett Star Wars Prequel reviews back in the day?
+NeuronalAxon I started watching RLM around the time Rogue One came out, so no plinkett reviews for me. I'm a Star Wars fan and heard about the controversy surrounding their Rogue One review and decided to check it out. After watching the review, I wasn't able understand the big fuss some people were having. Maybe it's just me.
Make sure you watch the Plinkett reviews that started it all...
Welcome to the family!
... the disgusting, horrible family ...
This is how the universe balances itself, the shittier a movie is the better it's "Half in the bag" episode will be.
its**. I'm just pointing it out because the first time I read your comment I didn't understand it. I don't mean to play smartass or anything, I'm not even a native speaker
Ok, fixed. Fuck you
NoTodoEsArte - seriously? My phone added an apostrophe to its and that caused you enough distress to warrant a reply? Sorry, I'll have a talk with someone in the apostrophe department at LG first thing tomorrow. Obviously I'm just poking fun. Sorry about confusion bud.
Gage Bauer thanks for clarifying what travesty my phone had perpetrated. Auto-correction claims another one.
This is one of the best comments I've had the privilege to witness, no joke.
If it's an allegory concerning climate change woudn't that make it an algorey ?
Get out
Ba dum tiss
different and far far better film.
+1
I think you mean algorithm
Can we get a commentary track for this that's just Jay saying "do you get it!?" for every allegory
Do you get it?
Do you get it?
Do you get it?
Do you get it?
I didn't get it, because I went into this movie without reading anything about it and I'm not religious(even though most of the stories were the really known ones). Zero reason to think someone would make a movie about just retelling bible stories. Like wtf is the point ? I mean I know the director, I liked most of his previous work, but I thought this was going to be a straight psychological thriller based on the beginning.
@@pulkmees I grew up religious and so got some of the religious allegory... buuuuut... it wasn't well done and still didn't really make sense, even looking at it that way. I think the director just did what he wanted and didn't really think any of it through. Like the randomness of her drinking that yellow mixture, and then stopping, and it's never bought up again.
no!
I would absolutely LOVE a re:View episode of Possession. That movie is an all time favorite for me and more people need to know about it!
"(you will never answer the door again.)" - From the trailer
Yes, if you're a living biblical allegory, you will be scared shitless!
mother exclamation point
Mother ! 2: mother?!
I watch so many movie review shows on TH-cam. RLM really is just completely above all the competition. Across the board.
Oh don't be like that, yms is near, and some movie essay channels are also great
Brett PGH Love Double Toasted as well.
Me too!
Yes more Double Toasted shoutouts
Kosta Jovanovic yeah, I love these channels, but red letter media is above all of them
"the most expensive student film ever made"
damn
Drog .NDTrax Listen just because a film has some message doesn't mean it's good.
@Drog .NDTrax I'm sorry not paying attention to the amazing and not at all heavy handed message this movie presents makes you a peasant.
@Drog .NDTrax ooh we got a brooklyn cab driver here.
@Drog .NDTrax thats such a pretentious statement, it doesnt matter if a movie has methapors or not what matters will always be the story, lawrance does nothing shes just being a victim in this movie shes not a charecter shes just a victim its no different from any home invasion film but somehow its a masterpiece because of the methapors? So movies that suck can be great if they get inside an editing room and add in some methapors? I tought it was good writing ,good story and narrative but okey i guess methapors is the only thing that matters now, We dont dislike this movie because we dont understand it im pretty sure everyone understood its messege but if your just gonna use methapors for 2 hours without compelling charecters then thats just lazy writing , you can have methapors and charecters that feel like charecters but somehow every film student now just thinks about the occult messege instead of making a good story or narrative , events are not story
It defies any convention of critique AND cinéma, so I'd give that student film an A++
"Humanity is bad and the earth was better off without it"...did you like my point? That'll be $8.95 in humanity money that i need to survive as a human.
For real... Once I saw a matinee ticket costing $15 suddenly the whole experience of attending sank to the level of going to a yodling concert. I'm not talking about going to this Aronofsky movie. I wouldn't go even if somebody gave me a ticket and paid me to watch this, but just in general this is what the downfall of cinema looks like. Quality goes down and the prices go up, a winning equation.
If that’s the only message you took from the movie you should have been paying more attention.
SilverShade1008 T O B E F A I R Y O U N E E D T O H A VE A V E R Y H I G H I Q T O U N D E R S T A N D M O T H E R
@Yul Brynner at this point kinda
That's not what the movie is about
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
"It reminds me of one of my favourite movies" - Jay
Jay's version of Mike's "there's an episode of Star Trek where....."
That's when I open my nzb indexer and get them all.
Your point?
DO YOU GET IT?
not really but k
"There's a billion of us; should we just kill ourselves or what?" Mike had me laughing way too hard at that one.
'mother!'?
more like 'oh brother!'
[cue disappointed trumpet interlude]
Ian Phoenix oh brother where art thou was great though!
You can write this shit
*slidewhistle*
Interesting enough my friend thought the movie was a metaphor for celebrity culture and how people (celebs and social media stars) have a huge disregard for privacy and always have the need to share everything with everyone because of their egos. It shows how we tend to treat celebs like gods and not normal people. The child being passed around and killed was a metaphor for when these very people share every single aspect of their children that they have basically doomed them to a fate in the spotlight that could eventually kill them (also a metaphor for child actors who went off the deep end). JLaw being called a slut, stripped and getting beaten for it harkens back to her photo scandal and how certain people treated and see her differently for it. I truly bought this interpretation from my friend until I watched the director's interview and we FUCKING WASTED OUR TIME THINKING TOO HARD OVER A SHALLOW ASS MOVIE.
I love mother! but this interpretation sounds much more interesting.
See, better to leave the movie up for interpretation. It's better that way.
Yeah i was starting to think that too lol
But I mean death of the author right? I can totally see that interpretation which in a way means it’s true. Does it really matter what the director thinks when you can draw that totally valid interpretation?
Exactly like you said. I loved the movie and thought it was really clever... but I'm a UK citizen who's been raised atheist and knows jack all about the Bible. I thought the movie was about a controlling spouse, he never takes her side, lets random people into the house without even explaining who they are, he cared about himself while she cared about themselves.
Reading all the references to the Bible online afterwards was actually quite fun, although all of this is somewhat of a flaw for me. If the movie was supposed to be about something so specific, it probably shouldn't have flown so far over my head lol
They were gonna make a sequel called 'Father!', but the script ran away.
If someone spilt milk on the script it wouldn't have to leave to go to the store.
This movie reminded me of a couple apartments I had in my mid 20s. My roommates had people over day and night, often people would just show up uninvited. They ate and drank the groceries I bought, made a big fucking mess, broke stuff. I knew if I objected or tried to kick people out I would be treated as the crazy person, so I didn't bother. I also have a social anxiety disorder that was crippling at that point in my life, so confrontation wasn't something that I had the capacity to handle then. I took this movie as a literal, surrealistic interpretation of the type of living situation I was trapped in, and in that regard it absolutely nails the anxiety, frustration and feeling of madness that I felt in those apartments.
Aronofvsky should have called the movie...
"Recognise my obvious artistic talent... you plebs."
I would call it “Darren Aronofsky tipping his fedora for 2-3 hours”
Tasty Loaf Which is a shame, because Arronofsky is a great director, so I can only hope he learns from this fuck-up and goes back to being good.
I saw Possession recently and I am fascinated with it! It's such a harrowing experience, watching it for the first time, not quite knowing what to expect. You're just overwhelmed by the performances watching it. And the sad part is, barely anyone knows or talks about that movie. Jay should DEFINITELY host a Re:view episode about it!
The neck snap was upsetting. The eating didn’t work because it was extreme for the sake of extreme.
I was speechless when that happened ahhh.
Everyone was freaking out about the cannibalism and then I saw it and was like, "that's it?"
The eating sort of worked for me.. I've always wondered why that custom exists, as it sounds awful. he depicted what i think of when i hear people mention it.
Wait... Are you suggesting that Darren "Ass to Ass" Aronofsky doesn't do subtlety well?
Jennifer Connely tho... das ass
Yes. It's Called "Wrecked Colon for a Cream"
That scene was in the book, though.
And an underage gangbang was in Stephen King's "It". Doesn't mean you have to film it.
jack bran i object to that statement! Jude Law is equally attractive!!
The whole rant from mike about the Brooklyn cab driver aronovsky is fucking gold.
Except it’s not accurate
@@arunkeshavadas7171 Don't think they ever will
Funny thing is, I actually did see this in theaters with my grandmother. We just wanted to watch a new release movie after our enjoyable lunch at Cheddars. She was not a fan to say the least and did not speak to me on the ride home.
Jennifer Lawrence is the lead?
#NotMyMother
Mother!
Tell your children not to walk my way
Stretch Mark Tell them not to heed my words
Stretch Mark
What they mean
What they say
Danzig babyyyyy
Rich Evans never knew his own mother, which begs the question of who the obese elderly lady buried under his floor boards is.
That's 'Good Rich'...
...or why she looks as though she was crushed between a tree and a 1981 Century Green Cadillac and cut up in a bathtub...
The twist is that she's not actually dead and there's an OLD LADY IN THE WALLS!
Funnily enough, that actually *is* his mother, but he doesn't know
hahahahaha
This is a strange retelling of the NES game.
Earthbound deserves a movie or at least a cartoon
Ness' Dad got murdered pretty hard in the 3rd act.
This is the gritty, realistic Nolan style "reimagining"
The sarcasm is so real in the beginning
Well that's the next half hour sorted then
But what are you doing now, 30 minutes later?
Correction
Half an hour and 1 second
How can you last that long? I came at 2m25s
Johnny Threefour actually I'm about to finish my PhD and get my TH-cam 100k subs plaque but same difference
Well, that crushing sense of ennui isn't going to defer itself...
Sooo... they basically took the "An Unexpected Party" chapter of _The Hobbit,_ padded it out to two hours, and threw in some assault and infanticide to up the edge factor...?
Red Daikini Ha! That's what I was thinking when I saw the preview! I was like "this is a horror movie for hobbits."
I love it!
Red Daikini lmao.
there are zero trees ejaculating on Hugh Jackman in this movie whats even the point
@RedDaikini---you should write for IMDb they need more energy and precision analysis plus this description is spot on.
Mother Earth being portrayed as innocent, good and forgiving is ridiculous in of itself. Because nature is extremely violent. Animals having to kill each other for survival and natural disasters are not something that man created. Jennifer Lawrence should have been portrayed as having split personalities or something. Nice and calm one minute, and raging and screaming with a knife the next minute.
Wouldn't that require her to act
@@boobysr Not if you cast a politician as her spouse (ALLEGEDLY)
@@adamw116 I've seen a lot of her movies and have never gotten a sense of her playing different characters. She can do sad face, scared face. She just plays herself. A lot of the time, not even that well.
@@adamw116 She was good in Winter's Bone though
Visitormassacre that’s the dumbest shit I have ever heard . Trees don’t come back when you have destroyed the environment, when you have put so many chemicals into the atmosphere that the earths natural barrier and protection from the sun , you know the thing called the Ozone layer , that little thing that makes it possible for life to flourish on this planet ! Yah , dinosaurs didn’t destroy the Ozone layer , yes they ate trees BUT they didn’t bulldoze down millions of acres of forest , they didn’t destroy the coral reefs that bring the ocean to life or dump Chemiclas into our oceans . You know that other little thing called water that makes it Possible for life to flourish on this planet . Yes there has always been climate change , the continents have changed and shifted and the life on earth adapted . This is very very different when you destroy far more then you can ever replace to keep the natural balance the earth needs to retain life . Yes Dino’s , cows , ancient people , released gassed into the atmosphere but no where near the amount we do now and what we do now is NOT natural . We have destroyed the oceans and much of the life in it , wrecking the natural order of things and the ocean slowly dies . We have ripped holes in the atmosphere so bad the polar ice caps that have been there for thousands and sometimes millions of years are freaking melting at alarming rates AND is leading to lakes and rivers drying up everywhere , crops dying because of that . The hurricanes the storms , the colder winters and hotter summers , it’s all because of the holes we created in the atmosphere. It’s because of the ignorance of people like you this planet is dying. Of course over thousands /millions of years the earth goes through changes , that’s natural . We however have significantly speed up global warming . When you bulldozer rainforest and so much land that the earth can’t possible replenish itself and destroy and pollute the oceans what do you think is going to happen
Mother is a Danzig song, let's keep it that way
I like the way you think!
I honestly found the music equivalent to Mother! being “To Be Kind” by Swans.
I clapped because I remember the Bible!
@@jimjam7928 Welcome to the Redlettermedia comment section. As the crew once said in one of the wheel of the worst episodes "That's the same shit they've been saying for 5 years!"
@@jimjam7928 That they are.
Do ya though?
You guys are the fucking realest movie YT channel ever. Skip over most shit like American Assassin, Emoji Movie etc and just talk about the movies that deserve discussion. Props for that.
kleptooohhyena Would have loved to see them talk about "The Emoji Movie" to be honest. They genuinely hate product placement and tackling a movie that was basically all product placement would have been somewhat cathartic.
Oh you mean like every other TH-cam movie critic
they did do a HITB of emoji movie... it is hilarious
Fun fact: _The Turn Down for What_ video was directed by the guys who did _Swiss Army Man._
I remember when I saw Javier Bardem in No Country For Old men and thought how great he was and looked forward to seeing what he did next. Then he made bad decision after bad decision for the next 10 years.
Ikr 😕
@Cristo Alba
Skyfall
@Cristo Alba
Yeah. It's very good
23:46 I love how Mike let that Reefer Madness reference sink in and then just silently cracked up after processing it in his mind while Jay kept talking.
I literally just finished watching this. The symbolism is right on the nose BUT I really enjoyed it. It's worth it just to watch it go completely off the rails. You know exactly where it's going but I enjoyed the ride. Worth a rental
@@jimjam7928 When Jennifer Lawrence turned around and they were eating the baby I just fucking lost it and started laughing at the absurdity.
Yeah it's definitely worth watching. I don't know if I liked it or not, but it was entertaining, especially the bat shit second half. I wish it flowed together better though...the obvious Genesis metaphors from the first half were kind of at odds with the second half. If it were a tight 90 minute movie that flowed a little better, I think it'd be a legitimate cult classic. I also laughed at the baby scene...not in a bad way though, I thought it was just blackly comic how quickly it escalated and how absurd the Christian metaphor is when literalized like that. I wish there had been more of that black absurdism in the rest of the movie.
I'm so glad I sa it in theatres, because the impact of this movie is just gigantic during the war scenes, with the house coming down and everything. I felt sick afterwards, but in a good way.
I love how straightforward you tell the plot xD. All other reviews I've seen are trying to keep the plot spoiler free like, "Hey, I'm gonna try and tell you about this movie, but I can't cause the whole movie is a spoiler." type of attitude xD.
"Take chances with weirdo stuff, sometimes you 'll find great things!" Words to live by!
This Mike dude sounds like Mr Plinkett. But it can't be because he doesn't have a wheelchair and pizza rolls.
If he doesn't have pizza rolls, what's all that hanging over his belt?
Are Jojo memes replacing RLM memes?
But he is morbidly obese
A quality magenta chicken mask Are David Bowie song references replacing JoJo memes?
Dot Bot SHEEYA HAHTO ATTACK
it's so funny to me that even in film school Jay Bauman was savagely critiquing his classmates films
When I first watched this movie I was convinced it was an experimental exercise to induce panic attacks or as extreme a reaction from the viewer as possible, but the more I think about it the more I realize the directors and writers probably aren’t that clever.
Thank you for bringing up Possession, such a great underrated film.
Not interested in this film. Tons of people screaming at each other. If I want to see that, I can just go to Wal-Mart
And if you want to see a baby ripped to shreds, you can also go to Wal-Mart.
It sure sounds like it in there LOL
Great, biblical allegory... because it's has brand recognition!
You jest but the Jesus Cinematic Universe is nothing to sneeze at.
Gargenville My favourite JCU film is The Lawnmower Man. It broke new ground.
I agree with them, the most shocking thing about this film is that it is playing in mega malls around the country instead of art houses
Jay, thank you very much for introducing me to Possession. I had never heard of it before, and I just watched it and it's pretty much the best thing ever. Please do a Re:View on it at some point.
According to trade papers JLaw made $15 million, the budget was around $30 million before marketing. I dont think thats how "indy" movies work.
killamagillagorilla yeah usually Indy movies have Harrison Ford as well
I'm sure they could have at least gotten a LaBeouf
killamagillagorilla Shia LaBouf as god. "And on the seventh day god took to rest and beckons his angels to continue his works. They declined for fear of bringing ruin and the lord did say JUST DO IT!"
ISayEssays sounds like a normal Tuesday night for Shia LeBeouf
There is nothing independent about this movie. It's a Paramount film with a wide release. Aesthetically and in its script, it's weird in the same way as a lot of independent and arthouse films, but it's not one of them.
WOW 2 reviews in less than 3 weeks? Go easy on the hard work hack frauds!!!!11!!1
lololol
Lucas Rossi I find it hard to believe there's two movies worth watching in 3 weeks of time.
Lucas Rossi blame hollywood
mightymelee and they blame rotten tomatoes
S James when you have a 12 k a month Patreon you can do a lot.
All of the nuance and subtlety of a WWE wrestler wielding a jackhammer from the hood of a monster truck
the fact that the whole scenario repeats at the end and we are told that this is just a cycle basically makes "Mother's" ordeal pointless. Totally undercuts the emotional consequences of what we had just witnessed over the previous two hours.
So Aronofsky really can't do shit unless he's stealing from Satoshi Kon, huh?
youranimesucks requiem for a dream is waaayy overrated. Life of pi was alright, I guess.
@Pale Shadow sorry
@@lucasmossman3820 I never said he did. Whatever comment I responded to is gone now, so the actual context is lost.
It has been many years since I've seen requiem for a dream, but I remember my problem with it being a distinct lack of attachment or care for the characters because of how they were written. I felt nothing for the suffering they went through because of it, and without that, there's little value in the film for me. The technical qualities of the film should serve to bolster the experience of the story and characters, but since I cared for neither, it failed to impress me. It boredered on pretentious for me, which I define as focusing on technical features or grander themes without enough care for actually making an engaging experience. I didn't understand why everyone cried at it when I was bored instead. I can't give details because it has been so long ago though.
@@roelin360 you have your definition of pretentious
@@robertyeah2259 how so?
Who ever said we wanted the Bible to be rebooted as well!!!?...
Get ready for the JCCU (Jesus Christ Cinematic Universe)
It would've worked too if they gave it to JJ Abrams or Michael Bay
the bible 2： Jesus reloaded
You obviously haven't heard of Fist of Jesus smh
God does Jennifer Lawrence only have 1 facial expression?
It's called the "fetal alcohol syndrome."
it's so funny up close, it's like te artist who painted it was mocking her, but they were actually just being accurate lol
It's called the "I just ate a whole thing of Xanax"
Yes
Javier Bardem: Yes.
I clapped when I saw RLM's new video!
And I claaaaaappppppped
THEY BROKE NEW GROOUUUUND
Lots of vistas
Jay! Mike! Mr. Plinkett! These are things I recognize!
AT-STs AT-STs
“Never trust the teller, trust the tale. The proper function of a critic is to save the tale from the artist who created it.”
That’s how I feel about Shark Exorcist and Honorable Men. Those directors should not be held accountable for their intents in any way
"You don't look at a science fiction film to see our reality..."- Jay Baumann
I guess Jay has never seen a science fiction film, which highlight current social issues ALL THE TIME.
I wish I could do drugs like Aronovsky.
You mean not at all?
Wtf drugs is he on? Ritalin? Cause Willy Wonka with Gene Wilder is more imaginative.
you mean smelling your own farts
You will never be funny
Possession is such an awesome and underated movie, nice to hear it being mentioned
2016: "all they do is review superhero films!"
2017: "all they do is review horror movies!"
2018: "all they do is review STAR WARS films....OMG!..... AT-ATs!!!"
Come 2021 we'll probably get at least 5 star wars spinoffs, so I wouldnt be surprised
"all they review is that juicy shaq meat"
"The guy with the vibrating eyes." I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought about that.
Oh no you’re not! He was in constantine with keanu reeves and they used his eyes IN the movie!
"the baby-eating scene"
never heard that before
Whenever I hear the director say something like, "Starts like X, then shifts," I feel like that's code for: jumbled. fucking. mess
John Cummings Not necessarily tho. From Dusk til Dawn. Fight Club. etc.
It's all the other shit Aranosfky says that lets you know it's going to be clusterfuck
Apocalypse Now, Lost Highway, Melancholia, Old Boy, No Country for Old Men.
Lots of movies shift gears. You might be able to make a case that SOME of those were jumbled messes, not all of them.
Kelvin Williams Those are really bad examples, though I'm a pretty huge defender of movies with tonal shifts.
From Dusk till Dawn I would not rank next to it cause the literal appeal of that movie is how much a disconnect the two parts of the movie have. If u were to try to take the movie seriously it would just be bad as mother! but mother! doesnt have the humor factor as much as From Dusk till Dawn.
Wow, it's so crazy how different people interpret different things. I watched this with no prior knowledge of what it was supposed to be about. I had no idea about the director's intended religious overtones nor his attempt to create a metaphor about man's relationship with earth. To me, this was just a story about abusive relationships. The insanity in the house and JLaw's attempts to justify it and keep it all together felt like a metaphor for the way people rationalize their own toxic relationships. In my mind, the house signified the relationship itself, that's why JLaw was trapped there while everyone else could come and go as they pleased. The husband was your typical artist, more in love with his work than his own family, hence his willingness to sacrifice his child in order to get the praise he craves. "You didn't love me, you only loved how much I loved you." That was the whole story in a nutshell for me. Everything Mike and Jay are saying here totally makes sense, especially when you see it in the context of Arronofsky's own words. However, the way this film resonated with ME was something else entirely. I loved the shit out of it.
This is why I don't like when people explain their art. You watched the movie and got something interesting and different out of it. But since the director has flat out said, "this is what the movie means..." It turns your unique interpretation of the movie (and all other interpretations of it) into nothing but an incorrect explanation. IMO, that kinda sucks.
Same here. I really liked Mother, more for how it made me feel that for what it tried to say. I love when movies try to challenge the viewer by making it unconfortable, pushing the envelope to what pictures can convey. Not since early Lynch have I felt so uneasy watching a film.
Then I watched some Aronofsky interviews and I said to myself "oh, no...this guy loves to eat his own shit..."
Chimutrufio Gumercindo Ibañez del Campo - Have you ever seen the movie Pi? It's by the same director as Mother, but it's a little reminiscent of early Lynch stuff. Not in a huge way; it just has that famous uncomfortable Lynch-style atmosphere, a bit like Eraserhead but with the weirdness toned way down. It's definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it already; you seem like the type that would also enjoy it.
Calvin Lee Yeah man, great movie.
I feel like metaphors and symbolism like this were intended despite what he's said about the movie. I really enjoyed it because I felt that it spoke about a lot of different topics and ideas within one story. Their relationship definitely was a large part of it, and I feel the toxicity of it was intended. The biblical references and comparisons to our earth only add to the film.
"I'm really excited about the Mother! Cinematic Universe that's going to spawn..."
I'm dead.
For weeks I had a "Mother!" ad before every single TH-cam video I watched. Finally finding out what it's all about. XD
9:40 I was just watching this video and I swear to god I could hear some one whispering in my ear. I was fucking creeped out. So I went back to 9:40 and I realised it was Rich Evans in the background saying "what are you doing, what are you doing"
"Don't take chances with weirdo stuff"
"No, take chances with weirdo things" is what he's saying
rich Evans.
Defeatable Evans
Rich Evans, Poor Evans,
Beggar Evans, Thief,
Doctor, Lawyer,
Indian Chief.
#saverichevans
Julian Webb
*Rich Evans is the key to all of this*
How fucking dare you
I loved everyone’s acting in it. Like yeah it’s over the top and obvious film but I appreciate the craftsmanship of it all. It’s not better than his other movies but I’m still thinking about it a week after.
OMG! This opening 2 minutes actually reminded me of how the RLM guys "reviewed" that steaming pile known as "Movie 43". Just as... accurate.
lol did anyone else see the trailer for this in theatres and it had one of those 2000s era dramatic male voice overs that more or less said "THIS WILL MESS YOU UP"
I feel like "Do you get it?" should be added to "I clapped, I clapped when I saw it!" as essential lines for media criticism.
Thank you, RLM, for dismantling this movie whose ads i remember flooding my media consumption a while ago. I love it when an artificially over-hyped feature turns out to be dissapointing or worse, especially if i actively chose not to spend money on it.
I saw this at a Regal Theater and it was basically a full house. Theb about 20 minutes in I think 90% of the audience checked out. Lots of talking and laughing and phone usage. Though there were 2 middle aged women sitting behind me that may have come to see it just to riff on it, because that's what they did almost from the start.
Do the world a favor and loudly tell these people to shut the fuck up.
the symbolism gets incredibly heavy-handed but as an experience it's incredible. can't think of many films that made me so anxious.
I forgot how much Jay loves the Wrestler. Man, as someone who grew up watching wrestling in the 80s, and then was horrified as an adult watching where a lot of those guys lives went in the 90s and 2000s...such a heavy movie.
Contemporary Reefer Madness 9000/9000
quite literally the first time i saw this movie i was super high and i just remember loving it and telling everyone it was like insane and they all looked at ME like i was insane and then i made my sister watch it with me while i was sober and i slowly pieced together that everything i thought was weird and interesting was actually some weird biblical metaphor or some shit i was so pissed.
Watching RLM at 8 in the morning is like drinking before noon: awesome.
This sounds like Clue meets Lord of the Flies
I love it when I discover a channel that's been around for years, so much to catch up on.
But Jesus was a space alien engineer!
GreenDayFanMT There's a film I'd pay money to see
@@foxybingo1112 it's called Prometheus, look it up
I went to see this film with my partner in theaters, after being thoroughly intrigued when watching the trailer. No joke, there was a couple in the row before ours, and the man was so furious at one point when watching the movie (the baby part), he stomped his way out of the theater through the emergency exit, leaving his poor, girlfriend awkwardly sitting there. It's nothing I've ever seen in my 28 years of movie watching...
I think we are honestly at a point now where movie criticism is more interesting than the movies themselves - sort of like how TH-cam personalities critiquing the news media is more interesting now than the actual news media.
"That was the best movie I've ever seen and I never want to be put through it again" has been my reaction to at least three Aronofsky films now, with Mother! being the best yet.
Really duplicates the stress of people barging into your house and breaking things, a new window or door being open every time you turn around even though you thought you'd locked the place down... it was like a stress dream you have while sick with a stomach bug. He nailed it, glad I watched it, will not be buying the blu-ray.
I thought Mother! Is one of his worst films. The Wrestler and Black Swan are far superior.
I always thought Arinofsky was French. Who knew he was just from BROOKLYN?
Ed Harris is in Westworld on HBO and hes amazing
"Did they trick people into thinking this was a horror movie?" "That would be the worst thing they could've done."
.....They tricked me into thinking this was a horror movie 😑
Just finished watching Mother! It's 11PM. I'm so nauseous and disturbed. Thank god that I can come here, and with that familiar sound of the stock music piano intro, I know that Mike and Jay will deconstruct it to the point of calming me down and allowing me to sleep. Thankyou for being here Mike and Jay
" I wanted to make a story about our connection with the earth"... looks at a film in which the humans have no connection with the earth.
The humans literally come from nowhere and mother earth hates them from the first second.
fascinating.
Earth rejects humanity. Isn't that an accurate depiction of our contemporary experience?
@@DarkAngelEU not in the least. Nature is a constant fight for survival for all life. We're better at it than most organisms due to our ability to accumulate knowledge, structures, culture, technology.
Humans are part of nature.
Like ants, Termites, Meercats, we alter the environment to increase our effective survival. Unlike those other species, we can sit around and talk about how unfortunate the side effects are when we're too good at it yet careless and we lose the balance and asthetics of the glories of nature.
We can eve make pretentious movies that sort of express a misguided form of this sentiment.
@@ravissary79 Are you denying climate change? Cos that's happening pretty much everywhere right now.
@@DarkAngelEU it's virtually impossible to deny such vague claims with any meaningful intelligence.
Obviously the climate is changing.
The question is how much, are projections accurate, what's the expected outcome, are the proposed causes proportionate to what's popularly believed and what, if that's true, can be done about it.
My previous reply in no sense takes any of this lightly.
Do you think humans are aliens of spirits and aren't part of nature?
DO you think nature is some pagan personified force that makes decisions and is trying to get even with people or is it a biological complex habitat that has trends but no supernatural will?
Because the idea that "humanity isn't part of nature, and the earth is trying to wipe us out" is Captain Planet fairy tale nonsense.
It isn't even self aware honest nonsense since ALL of the cautionary tales that say how bad people are and how ignorant we are and how we deserve to pay are.... all invented by HUMANS, not "nature" as a personified mind or a goddess, but PEOPLE who want to see other PEOPLE pay.
My advice is, if you're an anti-natalist, stop it with the hypocrisy, start with yourself.
@@ravissary79 Lol I'm not anti-natalist, and it's not hypocritical to say that we should have less babies whilst still being alive. You're exposing some of your own ideology here.
Let's first make clear that we are modern human beings. We have separated ourselves from nature, we have plenty of means to shelter ourselves from natural forces, even circumvent them, we no longer rely on the seasons or other natural phenomena to survive, so in a way we have become independent from nature to thrive. This is the modern condition of man.
However, and this is what can be called the postmodern condition, there are still parts of nature we can't change and because we are thriving independently from nature, we are railing against the "edges" of how much human activity our planet can tolerate before its ecosystem starts to collapse. This is what we are witnessing today.
In this way, you could say the movie isn't so much an allegory for Christianity, but it is an allegory for nature vs nurture (culture) and how those two seem to fight for control over the human condition. The movie makes a statement that culture always wins, exactly because for your reasons that all these ((linguistic)) expressions are manmade constructions: as long as there's man, there is God. However, you can't deny that climate change is real, that it is happening, and in a sense you could argue that this is like an autoimmune response of the Earth when it is being tipped out of balance, like a body fighting an infection. Even if Earth isn't trying to consciously get rid of us, it is reacting to our industrial activities, so we should be more conscientious of our behavior and moderate it in a way that doesn't disturb the planet in favor of our survival as a species and in an effort to conserve our precious ecosystems.
And I love Eraserhead and Possession so much and I'm so happy whenever they get brought up as the true greats that they are ❤