It’s the single best mod you can do for the AT if ride sag is unattainable for you as a rider. No more sending energy through the frame and body. Its not just for off-road….so much saver on pavement too.
This video has been extremely informative, and has given me the confidence to do this, myself. Despite being an industrial mechanic for years, this task seemed daunting. I'll have it done within the next week, I hope.
Towards the end of the video, we demonstrated that the Hyperpro springs had the option to raise the suspension by about 20mm. To the eye, that's one of the biggest changes from stock. When it comes to riding and handling, there is a significant change. We are going to put out a full review/feedback video later down the road when we get enough testing and footage.
Nicely done! But how does the bike feel now in comparison to how it was when stock? Try to describe the new feeling please :). Thanks and cheers buddy!
Hey, thanks for the comment and inquiry. I am 225lbs and there was zero chance at setting sag correctly and travel length was lost from the get go. The benefits of the Hyperpro springs is immediately noticeable just taking bike off center stand and moving the bike around in the garage. The whole bike feels like it has a core six pack with the ability to hold and transfer forces correctly. There is a lot of preload left too, giving you the ability to load up and go on trip where you come back with a beard. The intended travel length is now available, (on top and on bottom), and the progressive part is at the end of stroke keeping violent forces from getting into frame as it stiffens at the end. Action is improved and controlled unless you go full Evel Knievel of course. The bike even looks better on side stand, as it is not squatting under the added weight of the mods. Slow Speed maneuverability and off-road technical: Absolute improvement! When you twist the throttle, power is delivered to the rear wheel; instead of spending time expanding the forks, compressing rear spring and then getting power to the wheel, then reverse process when braking. The Hyperpro recommended settings seemed dialed in too. Please comment if you have additional questions that were not answered.
Thanks for the installation video. Can you provide us with a preview/ comparison video or update please? I'm really interested to know how different these springs are from the originals. Thanks
Hey, thanks for comment. We plan to do a follow up video this spring/summer on the swap. I am very happy, as the suspension now has the room in pre-load to set sag for me and still leave room for loading up for a long trip. Before I was maxing out preload unloaded.
Correct me if I'm wrong but you filled the fork leg to 180 from the top, the Honda manual says 95 ml. Watching you stick the Tool into the top of the fork I could tell that the amount of tube down into the collar was twice what it should be
Hi, thanks a lot for a quality video. I ve forgotten to set the preload & damping to minimum soft, they were at maximum hard when i replace the fork springs. Can you please explain the implications and what should I do?
If you didn’t set preload and rebound to minimum soft before you took them apart…I’m guessing you don’t have the turns available on preload and/or rebound.
If you have a 16-19 year model, and the fork is assembled correctly; you should have (15) full turns available from full soft or full hard on the pre-load. 19mm nut and typically blue. Standard position is (5) A/A2 (8.5) D/D2 from the full soft position. Also you should have (3+) turns available on the rebound adjustment from full soft or full hard. Adjustment is dial in center of pre-load. Standard position (2.25) turns from maximum position. If you don’t have the (15) and (3+) turns available, fork is assembled wrong and you need to remove the caps and verify they are set full soft and have locking nut down 10.5mm on damp rod.
As per the manual, for the rear, the tighter coil (which is smaller did) needs to be towards the preload adjuster isn't it? or did I read it wrong? - see that you have put the tighter coil to the bottom?
Perfect job! Awaiting video with review after few kKm. But on beginning the video I already see results! What about rear spring, original is ok for my mind, but front wery softly. I looking for front, is it really need to change rear? Many thanks for good video! Ride safe!
1 more sink, can You make video with some big wawe or stages for rocking test. OEM springs do wery bad on this, bikes front rocking so much. I has lot of drops on desert for this reason :-( And in test video please include settings for valves. Cheers!
We really appreciate your comment. You are correct, changing out the front spring is what moves the needle the most. Hyperpro sales springs individually and as kits, making the option to add the rear a no brainer for me. So much more flexibility with preload when loading the bike and/or 2 up. Changing out the rear is harder and where things can be a little dicey. Please have done by shop or a method that is suitable for your safety.
More videos will be made, but they take time to film and edit. Hyperpro sends settings out based on the springs or kit you chose. Meaning my setting numbers could be different as I picked a kit that raised the bike 20mm. Please reference our video on setting up factory settings and adjust number of turns and clicks based from the Hyperpro recommendations for your kit or front springs.
The kit that I installed was the one that increases height 20mm. It’s a much Stiffer spring that allows you to ride fully loaded or empty and have preload range. I don’t have a weight I can give you. I’m 225 lbs and pack for moto-camping. I dial up preload when heavy, ride, unpack, and dial back preload when empty.
I have the same kit (standard rate spring) and I cannot find the 10.5 mm reference for the damper rod lock nut on top. In the HP instructions or the Factory manual it does not mention this. I left mine at 10.5 but I wonder where Haynes gets that info. Anybody have further info?
Nice video! I wonder if the +20mm HP kit springs should exactly longer on 20mm than oem springs or not? Ive just make the same change to +20mm HP kit, but there is still 870 mm of seat height. It should be 890, I guess. Also my HP springs kit are the same length as oem springs, I am not sure it is right. Could you please check you seat height? Thank you and good luck!
To my knowledge, spring lengths are the same. Spring rate is different and the height comes from the spring preload setting. I have many adds that would effect my OEM seat height.
Nicely done. I did the same to my 2016 Africa Twin, using some stiff Racetech springs for the forks. It made a huge difference in handling for me.
It’s the single best mod you can do for the AT if ride sag is unattainable for you as a rider. No more sending energy through the frame and body. Its not just for off-road….so much saver on pavement too.
This video has been extremely informative, and has given me the confidence to do this, myself. Despite being an industrial mechanic for years, this task seemed daunting. I'll have it done within the next week, I hope.
We love those types of comments. Good luck with the task.
If you close your eyes it's like a suspension how to from Duncan Trussel. In all seriousness, this was a very helpful video.
Thanks
Hi guys,
have you done long term review after changing the springs ?
oh man I'm wearing headphones and stuck at the beginning.
I know that this bike has a great sound but MAN it sounds addicting
Is there any way to demonstrate the change from stock?
Towards the end of the video, we demonstrated that the Hyperpro springs had the option to raise the suspension by about 20mm. To the eye, that's one of the biggest changes from stock. When it comes to riding and handling, there is a significant change. We are going to put out a full review/feedback video later down the road when we get enough testing and footage.
Super job, thanks!
Thanks for the support
Great video thanks for making and sharing
Thanks for the feedback. We appreciate the support.
Nicely done! But how does the bike feel now in comparison to how it was when stock? Try to describe the new feeling please :). Thanks and cheers buddy!
Hey, thanks for the comment and inquiry. I am 225lbs and there was zero chance at setting sag correctly and travel length was lost from the get go. The benefits of the Hyperpro springs is immediately noticeable just taking bike off center stand and moving the bike around in the garage. The whole bike feels like it has a core six pack with the ability to hold and transfer forces correctly. There is a lot of preload left too, giving you the ability to load up and go on trip where you come back with a beard. The intended travel length is now available, (on top and on bottom), and the progressive part is at the end of stroke keeping violent forces from getting into frame as it stiffens at the end. Action is improved and controlled unless you go full Evel Knievel of course. The bike even looks better on side stand, as it is not squatting under the added weight of the mods.
Slow Speed maneuverability and off-road technical: Absolute improvement! When you twist the throttle, power is delivered to the rear wheel; instead of spending time expanding the forks, compressing rear spring and then getting power to the wheel, then reverse process when braking. The Hyperpro recommended settings seemed dialed in too.
Please comment if you have additional questions that were not answered.
Amigo ! Excelente video gracias. Greetings and respect to all from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽. New subscriber here
Thanks for the support!
Thanks for the installation video. Can you provide us with a preview/ comparison video or update please?
I'm really interested to know how different these springs are from the originals.
Thanks
Hey, thanks for comment. We plan to do a follow up video this spring/summer on the swap. I am very happy, as the suspension now has the room in pre-load to set sag for me and still leave room for loading up for a long trip. Before I was maxing out preload unloaded.
@@1LiterADV 👍🙏
Great to hear
Gracias gran tutorial, una pregunta solo una telescópica se hace el trabajo
A well modded AT (Mk1 and Mk2) is a very discerning choice as a large ADV mount.
Thx for comment. I like all ADV bikes and could be happy with many of them….but the AT is my unicorn, and I love modding it up.
Correct me if I'm wrong but you filled the fork leg to 180 from the top, the Honda manual says 95 ml. Watching you stick the Tool into the top of the fork I could tell that the amount of tube down into the collar was twice what it should be
180 is the recommend space with the Hyperpro spring I chose. HP sends the recommended settings when you purchase their kits.
@@1LiterADV I know, I have the same kit..
180 should be correct depth. Just measure before inserting spring.
I'll go back and read their directions once again, I was pretty sure they said to refer to manufacturers oil settings
Great tutorial guys! Well done
Thanks for watching man! Hope you found it helpful.
What are the recommending fork and shock settings with these? Mine did not come with them. +20 kit
Comes with kit. Based on weight and riding style.
@@1LiterADV ok mine did not come with that… any idea for 250?
You’d need to call them. They’ll send you the literature
Hi, thanks a lot for a quality video. I ve forgotten to set the preload & damping to minimum soft, they were at maximum hard when i replace the fork springs. Can you please explain the implications and what should I do?
Watch this videos of ours and follow up if you still have questions.
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If you didn’t set preload and rebound to minimum soft before you took them apart…I’m guessing you don’t have the turns available on preload and/or rebound.
@@1LiterADVdoes it mean i could get more preload if i set preload at minimum soft level before re-assemble the fork? Or preload does not change?
What year and model do you have?
If you have a 16-19 year model, and the fork is assembled correctly; you should have (15) full turns available from full soft or full hard on the pre-load. 19mm nut and typically blue. Standard position is (5) A/A2 (8.5) D/D2 from the full soft position.
Also you should have (3+) turns available on the rebound adjustment from full soft or full hard. Adjustment is dial in center of pre-load. Standard position (2.25) turns from maximum position.
If you don’t have the (15) and (3+) turns available, fork is assembled wrong and you need to remove the caps and verify they are set full soft and have locking nut down 10.5mm on damp rod.
Thanks
As per the manual, for the rear, the tighter coil (which is smaller did) needs to be towards the preload adjuster isn't it? or did I read it wrong? - see that you have put the tighter coil to the bottom?
I believe you are correct for the OEM spring. The Hyperpro spring has tighter coils down.
@@1LiterADV ok. The manual says that smaller dia to the top. Is the dia less for the tigher coil side or the other side ?
Yes. The HP spring actually only fits that way.
Perfect job!
Awaiting video with review after few kKm. But on beginning the video I already see results! What about rear spring, original is ok for my mind, but front wery softly. I looking for front, is it really need to change rear? Many thanks for good video! Ride safe!
1 more sink, can You make video with some big wawe or stages for rocking test. OEM springs do wery bad on this, bikes front rocking so much. I has lot of drops on desert for this reason :-(
And in test video please include settings for valves. Cheers!
We really appreciate your comment. You are correct, changing out the front spring is what moves the needle the most. Hyperpro sales springs individually and as kits, making the option to add the rear a no brainer for me. So much more flexibility with preload when loading the bike and/or 2 up. Changing out the rear is harder and where things can be a little dicey. Please have done by shop or a method that is suitable for your safety.
More videos will be made, but they take time to film and edit. Hyperpro sends settings out based on the springs or kit you chose. Meaning my setting numbers could be different as I picked a kit that raised the bike 20mm. Please reference our video on setting up factory settings and adjust number of turns and clicks based from the Hyperpro recommendations for your kit or front springs.
@@1LiterADV nice!
Many thanks!
Enjoy with new suspension! 😊
Cheers for the video. Does this upgrade have an effect on how the bike feels on road and, if yes, is it significant?
For me it helped in all conditions. There are so many variables. But the general consensus is that the AT is soft from factory like many bikes.
@@1LiterADV , ok, thanks.
FOR WHAT PILOT WEIGHT IS THIS REGULATION INTENDED?
The kit that I installed was the one that increases height 20mm. It’s a much Stiffer spring that allows you to ride fully loaded or empty and have preload range. I don’t have a weight I can give you. I’m 225 lbs and pack for moto-camping. I dial up preload when heavy, ride, unpack, and dial back preload when empty.
I have the same kit (standard rate spring) and I cannot find the 10.5 mm reference for the damper rod lock nut on top. In the HP instructions or the Factory manual it does not mention this. I left mine at 10.5 but I wonder where Haynes gets that info. Anybody have further info?
I’m not sure either….but it leaves room for turn on rebound and preload
where did you order the spring from and is it the heavy or normal weight spring?
I ordered everything from Hyper-Pro and I went with the system that raised the bike 20 or 25mm
Nice video! I wonder if the +20mm HP kit springs should exactly longer on 20mm than oem springs or not? Ive just make the same change to +20mm HP kit, but there is still 870 mm of seat height. It should be 890, I guess. Also my HP springs kit are the same length as oem springs, I am not sure it is right.
Could you please check you seat height?
Thank you and good luck!
To my knowledge, spring lengths are the same. Spring rate is different and the height comes from the spring preload setting. I have many adds that would effect my OEM seat height.
what model springs are these?