It's incredible that people like Julius Caesar grew up with stories of Aeneas and Romulus in the same way that our generations grew up with Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. Thanks for the video!
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion as to the historicity of characters like Aeneas or the Achaean kings you speak of in other videos? Do you treat them as purely fictional or do you prefer to intertwine them into known history?
My opinion is that most of the epic cycle heroes did exist, had these names and did similar things as the epic tradition says. Of course many deeds that they did not actually do were atributed to them. But the essence is that, and I am speaking as a Greek therefore understanding the mentality and logic behind this, if they were fictional characters they would not have these specific names. People would have name them by using adjectives to create fictional names related to their deeds. But their names are unrelated to the events they are associated with. They seem to be their actual names given to them before the deeds narrated. A Greek would have said "the Tall" , "the Slayer" etc if it was a fictional character. This is the case with Hercules, having a name attributed to him that is related to his deeds, that is not likely his real name. As a baby he strangled the snakes Hera send to kill him in his cradle, and his name means "victorious over Hera". If he existed most likely his name was totally different. Nicknames are a lead to a fictional character, rela names to an existing person. As to the magnitude of the events and their historicity, they must have been of enormous proportions compared to the reality of the world after them and up to the industrial revolution. The scale must have been way beyond the capacity even of a modern human of the late 19th century, logistically and economically speaking. The bronze age was a period that such one only in today's world we can experience it's effect. Globalisation, trade, total warfare etc. After the collapse of the bronze age world it took literally thousands of years of development either constructive or destructive for humanity to reach this stage of social development again.
Good question. It’s impossible to know for sure really. I suppose that some of the characters carry the names of real historical figures, while others may have been based on some forgotten warriors or even entirely fictional in order to make a better story.
If they were greeks than why did spartans attack them , Its known from the movie of troya itself that trojans spoke albanian , stop claiming things that dont have nothing to do with greece
@@DARDANIANEAGLE you re not very educated or else you`d know that greek city states were fighting each other for economic dominance. period. and the albanians were not even around at that time. them albanians are an amalgamation of slavs, thracians, illyrians etc. in other words nothing special about this people. pathetic.
The ruling people? Likely yes. But to suggest the entire population and city to have been "Greek", as Athenians and Spartans, that is likely and for sure not the case.
according to the little Iliad, Prince Aineas was captured by NEoptolemus and sold into slavery. period. the rest is an invention by a Roman poet by the name Virgil.
You are best historian this would be mean Aeneas was dardanian Kosovo Albanian of today who emigrated into troya and build the city grece princess came to Albanian dardanian in troya 😉 grece kingdom believing she was raped from hector declared war on troya troya won the war but second lost
@@martiedoherty5765 oh, does the algorithm care about the content of the comments? i thought it just cared about the comments. please provide me your source
It's incredible that people like Julius Caesar grew up with stories of Aeneas and Romulus in the same way that our generations grew up with Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. Thanks for the video!
This channel is criminally under viewed. I'm distantly related to Heinrich Schleeman so anything about Troy catches my eye!
Too bad that there isn't a film, series, or even a miniseries based on Virgil's Aeneid!
Actually my friend, there is a movie called Aeneas and it is made since 1962. Search for it pls. I am Greek, and i really liked it
Wonderful insight
Excellent! In the future , will you do videos about the Roman history and mythology?
That’s the plan!
never thought or knew anything about the early life of Aeneas with the exception Aphrodite was his mother
Great video. Can you tell me the name of the song or music in the background? Thank you
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion as to the historicity of characters like Aeneas or the Achaean kings you speak of in other videos? Do you treat them as purely fictional or do you prefer to intertwine them into known history?
I would also like to know if any of them were based in real people
My opinion is that most of the epic cycle heroes did exist, had these names and did similar things as the epic tradition says. Of course many deeds that they did not actually do were atributed to them. But the essence is that, and I am speaking as a Greek therefore understanding the mentality and logic behind this, if they were fictional characters they would not have these specific names. People would have name them by using adjectives to create fictional names related to their deeds. But their names are unrelated to the events they are associated with. They seem to be their actual names given to them before the deeds narrated. A Greek would have said "the Tall" , "the Slayer" etc if it was a fictional character. This is the case with Hercules, having a name attributed to him that is related to his deeds, that is not likely his real name. As a baby he strangled the snakes Hera send to kill him in his cradle, and his name means "victorious over Hera". If he existed most likely his name was totally different. Nicknames are a lead to a fictional character, rela names to an existing person. As to the magnitude of the events and their historicity, they must have been of enormous proportions compared to the reality of the world after them and up to the industrial revolution. The scale must have been way beyond the capacity even of a modern human of the late 19th century, logistically and economically speaking. The bronze age was a period that such one only in today's world we can experience it's effect. Globalisation, trade, total warfare etc. After the collapse of the bronze age world it took literally thousands of years of development either constructive or destructive for humanity to reach this stage of social development again.
Good question. It’s impossible to know for sure really. I suppose that some of the characters carry the names of real historical figures, while others may have been based on some forgotten warriors or even entirely fictional in order to make a better story.
"Troad" the first thing that came to my immature mind was that it just meant a Trojan Choad 😂😂
Aeneas was a direct ancestor of Brutus of Troy, who founded the mighty Britons!
Trojans were basically Greeks.
Acheans and Trojans were in competition for far too long.
If they were greeks than why did spartans attack them , Its known from the movie of troya itself that trojans spoke albanian , stop claiming things that dont have nothing to do with greece
@@DARDANIANEAGLE you re not very educated or else you`d know that greek city states were fighting each other for economic dominance. period. and the albanians were not even around at that time. them albanians are an amalgamation of slavs, thracians, illyrians etc. in other words nothing special about this people. pathetic.
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@DARDANIANEAGLE
@DARDANIANEAGLE I can't do anything else than laugh at that
The ruling people? Likely yes. But to suggest the entire population and city to have been "Greek", as Athenians and Spartans, that is likely and for sure not the case.
according to the little Iliad, Prince Aineas was captured by NEoptolemus and sold into slavery. period. the rest is an invention by a Roman poet by the name Virgil.
Dardania 🇽🇰🇦🇱
No 😂
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@@Napalm-gr good joke, greeks got f’d by us 🤣
@@MuslimanDardania When exactly?😂
@@Napalm-gr macedonian wars, epirus wars, palaponese wars
@@MuslimanDardania 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aineas was third cousin to hector and PAris. their fathers , PRiam and Anchises were second cousins. get your facts straight.
You are best historian this would be mean Aeneas was dardanian Kosovo Albanian of today who emigrated into troya and build the city grece princess came to Albanian dardanian in troya 😉 grece kingdom believing she was raped from hector declared war on troya troya won the war but second lost
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Well said little one!...Go play now.👶
@@martiedoherty5765 oh, does the algorithm care about the content of the comments? i thought it just cared about the comments. please provide me your source