I have had numerous different drivers but always go back to my G10, its so easy to place the shots. That said i had a G10 3 wood which is impossible so picked up a G10 4 wood for €60, happy days :-)
I have G15, it’s the oldest club in my bag and was thinking of picking up a new driver, but I’m still real happy with it. Kind of have the feeling of it’s not broke don’t fix it.
Been using the Nike Sasquatch Tour Driver from 2006 since High School. I can carry it 285 on the simulator with low 170’s ball speed. Just bought a Cobra Aerojet LS from 2023 after doing a lot of research about older vs newer drivers.. Will report back once I hit the Cobra.
I have the G425 LST and really like it. But, sometimes, I game an older Rapture and am surprised that my scores and distances are about the same. The difference is there’s a level of satisfaction in playing well or better with “older” technology.
I agree. L really like the older clubs. Don't like the looks of the newer drivers. They look like they belong in a starwars film. 9 yards is nothing to me. I'm an average golfer. If i don't center a driver I'll make up for it on the next shot. I don't take it seriously. I can see where these guys would.
@@todaysgolfer when able to play, 62 physically challenged, I still swing my 2003 Hogan BB C-S3 driver 270…😂😂😂 In fact the entire contents of bag are Mr Hogan clubs, and the bag!!! - BB C455 13* fairway - Colonial Hybrids, 21 & 24 - Ft Worth 15 hi - TK-15 wedges: 52, 56, 60 - oops, putter is OG, Anser or Bulls Eye w/flange Old school mentality, ya? Mucho luv to both, GOD bless!!! /gHr p.s. posted a 79 last time out, then the injury…rib cage ligament fractured. I’m done…ouch!!!!!
@@pataleno Me too bro, I will never give up my Ping G10 Driver, I like it so much I have 3 of the Drivers in case one breaks. I have tried all the new Pings in 2024 and nothing goes longer or straighter for me !! Quality lasts forever!
There's been several of these tests on other TH-cam channels and I didn't want to believe the data. So I took my 2007 Cleveland HiBore XL driver to my local golf shop and asked their pro to hit it. Sure enough, a 1.48 smash factor drive at 110 MPH swing speed resulted in nearly identical ball speed and spin characteristics as the 2023 Srixon driver that's in the bag of the pro who hit it...... It'll be used drivers for me in the future that's for sure. I feel like such a sucker for paying $500+ for what has proven to be nothing more than fancy designs and good marketing.
Like the other guy said, the real difference is forgiveness on bad strikes. If you can't find the middle, a newer driver will give you better results in terms of how far offline it's going. On the other hand, if you're an excellent ball striker, 10 extra yards is enough for you to notice the strokes gained. That's one whole club lower you need to hit on your next shot.
If you were to use the G20 (introduced in 2012) instead of the G10 (intro 2007) I think that the results would have shown very little difference. G20 shape is much different than the g10 and I suspect much better MOI. I just did my own test yesterday, taking my old G20 to the range VS several of my newer drivers and the G20 in going back into my bag. I used a Swing Caddie SC200 to monitor carry/smash/swing speed and my G20 was giving me 2-5 yards more carry and more consistently hit down the middle.
You're probably correct, but how much forgiveness do we need? I grew up playing with wooden woods. There was 0 forgiveness. I've been forgiven so much by my golf clubs that I'm not even Catholic anymore.
14 years is a long time for sure, but if you're super comfortable with a driver we understand how hard it can be to switch onto something new. Have you tried any of the latest drivers? And did you feel they offer anything your R9 doesn't?
That g400 has been a die hard driver even for current pros. Bernhard Langer still has the G400 in the bag and Brooke Henderson only let it go just this year.
9 yards... Considering I can find a Ping G10 driver for $20 at a yard sale, or spend $400 or more on a G425 - and a golf ball can make a 30 yd difference - I AM ALL SET with my G10
Amen brother!! Never giving up my Hogan BB C-S3 8* which I paid $20.00 or my Hogan BB C455 13* at $47.00 or my Hogan 21* & 24* hybrids at $92 both. Less than half the price of one overpriced club. I’ve hit that G425, it’s sweet but it’s still $500 new!!! Secondhand market is alive and kickin’ here in 🇺🇸
I have a 7.5 degree G10 which would have been more equal on the numbers with launch, height and spin. Possibly even longer at the cost of forgiveness. G10 is a legend.
You misunderstood the point of the video. He was fit for his driver and he’s a 4 handicap you aren’t there for you would benefit from the newer model since you don’t know what the middle of the face feels like 👍
Because he had confidence in it Stephen. He was also just about the best driver of the golf ball in the world at the time as well. Lee is a bit of an anomaly, he used Ping Zing 2 irons for ages after they were retired and still plays really old JZ Lite iron shafts even today.
I appreciate the video but I can't believe that YOU are believing Ping marketing department in the data they provided. It is fairly well known that the Ping i25 driver is the longest driver Ping has ever produced at swing speeds in the 95 - 125 mph range, with the Ping G20 and G25 being the longest & most forgiving drivers Ping has ever produced. The decision to start putting the turbulators & dragonflies on top of the crown was purely marketing and had no basis in engineering. This has been commented on by former Ping engineers as well. I would love to see you test the Ping i25 and G25 driver against the G425 driver using the same shaft in all three. You will find that on center-face shots the i25 carries longer and rolls longer. Off-center shots will probably be a tie between the G25 and G425, but would be fun to see the results.
9 yards is really nothing if you consider real golf time. You could hit the newest driver and depending on the fairway conditions end up behind the G10. And as far as the sweet spot it's micro between the two. However the g10 is a far better looking driver than the new ping which resembles some kind of insect head. Who would like looking down at that? Just saying ehh so what.
All marketing hype a good player can smash the g10 where they want it to go.besides they are making golf for the rich.I would feel guity if spent 500 pounds on new driver and my wife would kill me. 😊
As always you really make sense on why players should upgrade their drivers
Thanks for the feedback Robert, much appreciated.
I have had numerous different drivers but always go back to my G10, its so easy to place the shots. That said i had a G10 3 wood which is impossible so picked up a G10 4 wood for €60, happy days :-)
Thanks for your input.
I have G15, it’s the oldest club in my bag and was thinking of picking up a new driver, but I’m still real happy with it. Kind of have the feeling of it’s not broke don’t fix it.
Been using the Nike Sasquatch Tour Driver from 2006 since High School. I can carry it 285 on the simulator with low 170’s ball speed. Just bought a Cobra Aerojet LS from 2023 after doing a lot of research about older vs newer drivers.. Will report back once I hit the Cobra.
Excellent video as always, thanks both👍
Thanks Andy, really appreciate it.
I have the G425 LST and really like it. But, sometimes, I game an older Rapture and am surprised that my scores and distances are about the same. The difference is there’s a level of satisfaction in playing well or better with “older” technology.
Thanks for the input Rob.
I agree. L really like the older clubs. Don't like the looks of the newer drivers. They look like they belong in a starwars film. 9 yards is nothing to me. I'm an average golfer. If i don't center a driver I'll make up for it on the next shot. I don't take it seriously. I can see where these guys would.
i have used both drivers on the video and am getting alot more distance and consistency on the G425
Thanks for the input Richard.
Great video guys, as usual!!
Thanks for taking the time to say so Guy, appreciate it.
@@todaysgolfer when able to play, 62 physically challenged, I still swing my 2003 Hogan BB C-S3 driver 270…😂😂😂
In fact the entire contents of bag are Mr Hogan clubs, and the bag!!!
- BB C455 13* fairway
- Colonial Hybrids, 21 & 24
- Ft Worth 15 hi
- TK-15 wedges: 52, 56, 60
- oops, putter is OG, Anser or Bulls Eye w/flange
Old school mentality, ya?
Mucho luv to both,
GOD bless!!!
/gHr
p.s. posted a 79 last time out, then the injury…rib cage ligament fractured. I’m done…ouch!!!!!
Still using my G10 Driver today. Won't swap for anything.
Love that, so long as you love it why change?
@@pataleno Me too bro, I will never give up my Ping G10 Driver, I like it so much I have 3 of the Drivers in case one breaks. I have tried all the new Pings in 2024 and nothing goes longer or straighter for me !! Quality lasts forever!
There's been several of these tests on other TH-cam channels and I didn't want to believe the data. So I took my 2007 Cleveland HiBore XL driver to my local golf shop and asked their pro to hit it. Sure enough, a 1.48 smash factor drive at 110 MPH swing speed resulted in nearly identical ball speed and spin characteristics as the 2023 Srixon driver that's in the bag of the pro who hit it...... It'll be used drivers for me in the future that's for sure. I feel like such a sucker for paying $500+ for what has proven to be nothing more than fancy designs and good marketing.
Thanks for your input CA.
New Driver are way more forgiving and carry further on off centre shots. Yep, further into the water and out of bounds.
Like the other guy said, the real difference is forgiveness on bad strikes. If you can't find the middle, a newer driver will give you better results in terms of how far offline it's going.
On the other hand, if you're an excellent ball striker, 10 extra yards is enough for you to notice the strokes gained. That's one whole club lower you need to hit on your next shot.
If you were to use the G20 (introduced in 2012) instead of the G10 (intro 2007) I think that the results would have shown very little difference. G20 shape is much different than the g10 and I suspect much better MOI. I just did my own test yesterday, taking my old G20 to the range VS several of my newer drivers and the G20 in going back into my bag. I used a Swing Caddie SC200 to monitor carry/smash/swing speed and my G20 was giving me 2-5 yards more carry and more consistently hit down the middle.
Thanks for your input, enjoy the G20.
Can’t go wrong with the stability of the G425…for distance, a lower lofted G10 would be closer in distance but not forgiveness.
You're probably correct, but how much forgiveness do we need? I grew up playing with wooden woods. There was 0 forgiveness. I've been forgiven so much by my golf clubs that I'm not even Catholic anymore.
Would love to see a picture of the hits off the face so we can see how far off centre the hits were.
I'm comfortable with my R9 but I'm convincing myself i need to upgrade. Am i making a mistake for not taking advantage of the 14yrs of tech?
14 years is a long time for sure, but if you're super comfortable with a driver we understand how hard it can be to switch onto something new.
Have you tried any of the latest drivers? And did you feel they offer anything your R9 doesn't?
@@todaysgolfer yes I have on an indoor simulator and did not notice any difference in forgiveness, swing speed, or distance.
I need to try again with different drivers/ shafts
@@latteentry351 Upgrade to an m1
That g400 has been a die hard driver even for current pros. Bernhard Langer still has the G400 in the bag and Brooke Henderson only let it go just this year.
9 yards... Considering I can find a Ping G10 driver for $20 at a yard sale, or spend $400 or more on a G425 - and a golf ball can make a 30 yd difference - I AM ALL SET with my G10
Amen brother!!
Never giving up my Hogan BB C-S3 8* which I paid $20.00 or my Hogan BB C455 13* at $47.00 or my Hogan 21* & 24* hybrids at $92 both.
Less than half the price of one overpriced club.
I’ve hit that G425, it’s sweet but it’s still $500 new!!!
Secondhand market is alive and kickin’ here in 🇺🇸
I have a 7.5 degree G10 which would have been more equal on the numbers with launch, height and spin. Possibly even longer at the cost of forgiveness. G10 is a legend.
@@Matt-rq6wz same
You misunderstood the point of the video. He was fit for his driver and he’s a 4 handicap you aren’t there for you would benefit from the newer model since you don’t know what the middle of the face feels like 👍
@@austinhampton7999 except you're talkin' out yer ass brother!! Have a great day and good luck with that mouth in a bar.
Why would Lee Westwood be playing a G10 driver as apposed to a newer Ping version for so long into his career ?
Because he had confidence in it Stephen. He was also just about the best driver of the golf ball in the world at the time as well.
Lee is a bit of an anomaly, he used Ping Zing 2 irons for ages after they were retired and still plays really old JZ Lite iron shafts even today.
Why does Lee Westwood not have a major? Maybe because he's been using outdated equipment. We'll never know.
@@lkae4 or it could be because Westwoods one of the biggest bottlers in the game
@@mikebest634 He's had a much longer career than most pros. I don't drink but maybe I should try whatever he's having with my next round.
I appreciate the video but I can't believe that YOU are believing Ping marketing department in the data they provided. It is fairly well known that the Ping i25 driver is the longest driver Ping has ever produced at swing speeds in the 95 - 125 mph range, with the Ping G20 and G25 being the longest & most forgiving drivers Ping has ever produced. The decision to start putting the turbulators & dragonflies on top of the crown was purely marketing and had no basis in engineering. This has been commented on by former Ping engineers as well. I would love to see you test the Ping i25 and G25 driver against the G425 driver using the same shaft in all three. You will find that on center-face shots the i25 carries longer and rolls longer. Off-center shots will probably be a tie between the G25 and G425, but would be fun to see the results.
9 yards is really nothing if you consider real golf time. You could hit the newest driver and depending on the fairway conditions end up behind the G10. And as far as the sweet spot it's micro between the two. However the g10 is a far better looking driver than the new ping which resembles some kind of insect head. Who would like looking down at that? Just saying ehh so what.
You are of course entitled to your opinion Mike.
How about learning to hit it in the sweet spot?
You hush your mouth young man, how dear your suggest players practice, get better and not rely on a magic pill to cure their slice!
Some nerve!
🙏🏻😎🙏🏻
I suspect some people have more money than time and would like to buy their game.
Even pro cant always hit the sweet spot
If you can afford the £500 spend it on lessons not a new driver.
All marketing hype a good player can smash the g10 where they want it to go.besides they are making golf for the rich.I would feel guity if spent 500 pounds on new driver and my wife would kill me. 😊
Garbage, 10 yards for the g425 and a lump sum of £300 + more. Cobblers.
9yards is 10 paces walk. Forgiveness is impressive though
Golf player was better before.