Wow! Much gratitude for your thorough instructions! Love the no-frills and relaxed presentation, your style and cadence - made it easier to absorb the info (and I have to say that by the end of the video I was wishing that I was a friend of yours that could just hang out and share good conversation, laughs, highs and lows of life in ‘Earth School’ - but of course, I’m merely projecting my imaginary ideas of who you are. just thought I’d let you know how well you come across on the video.) Can’t wait to check out your other videos. Aloha!
Thank you for the feed back. I am pretty much the character you see in the videos. I trim my behavior on both ends. You seldom see me telling my cat how much I love her and I aways edit the 4 letter words when tour helicopters come over head while I am recording. You noticed, I still engage the fine old Hawaiian tradition of "talking story". I never use emoji, never text and never use social media. I still sit around on the lanai, enjoy the trade winds and talk story with friends face to face.
You're welcome. I did a lot of business with bare root while running nursery in California. We get some bare root in Hawaii but just a few adapted varieties. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it's very interesting as I've never seen bare root trees sold at a nursery. I live near Philadelphia and have only known them to be available via mail order. I have a small orchard and never knew bare root stock are superior.
Most of the countries fruit production is in California. So are most of the US bareroot tree growers. All commercial temperate fruit and nut farms are planted from bareroot trees. In California most good nurseries have bareroot in stock from January to February. Our sales was in the thousands annually on these. We have one nursery in Hilo HI that ships in bareroot from Dave Wilson in CA. Because there are not very many temperate fruit plants that will grow here, the selection is limited. Japanese persimmons and low chill peaches are the big sellers. Because bareroot are planted with native soil they do not have soil interface conditions.
Wow I am so glad I found your channel !!! 😁😁😁You are awesome and so full of great information!!! I’m still abit unsure about pruning but I noticed you have lots of “how to” videos !!! 😁😁😁Thank you so much !!! 😁😁😁
Thank you, thank you! The company I ordered from (MONTHS AGO) decided to wait until May to actually send them to me in drought-stricken California where it’s already 80F! I’ve got to keep them in pots until fall so they will actually survive in situ.
You are dead on with the Bare Root placed in pots and shipped to a big box store. That was my experience of shaking off some potting soil and the root looked like a dead stick, the trees are growing even with some deer damage. Your pruning method was helpful without a bunch of fluff like I see in books and other videos.
Thank you. As for the fluff, I did this for a living in both nursery and orchards. I lost the fluff about the same time the hair on my head fell out! Aloha.
sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot the password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
@Finley Lachlan i really appreciate your reply. I found the site thru google and im trying it out atm. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Thank you, lots of information, brilliant, I live in England and want to TRY and plant a bare root Cherry Blossom Tree, so hopefully with your vedio it should be ok. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. 🤗🤗
Soak the roots for a hour before planting. Trim any that are broken. Plant roots down and top up. It is actually pretty simple. Don't forget to give the tree something to feed on. That is very important in containers.
Thank u sow much! I learned a lot from your video. My church had a bare root sale from Sierra gold nursery for $15 each! So I bought 2 Honey crisp apple 🍎 trees. I’m north of Sacramento. They need a pollinator. Any tips?
What climate zone you live in depends on what pollinator you use. If you are in 5 and up the Gala apple is used. It is a fine apple on it's own. Looks like you will have to pick it up at full price since you didn't get a pollinator at the sale. Best hurry, most bare root sales will be over for the year soon.
Hi Bill! I just planted a bare root nectarine in the ground, zone 9b. Should I cut the tips of the branches on the downward curve like you did with these apples? I’ve cut the center for an open vase shape but left the others. Eventually I’d love for it to have that beautiful wide look I’ve seen on some older trees in our neighborhood. Thanks again for making these videos! They are so helpful and help me so much!
I must note that a "wide" look on old peaches is a bad thing. The further the trees spread the more likely the weak wood will break and damage the plant. Keep the trees pulled to the center when pruning each year. There are many different ways to approach pruning the tree. A commercial grower would plant the trees using an orchard cut. This is removing all growth from the side branches and then cutting the main trunk to 24". I sometimes save a few branches but usually the wood I saved is cut away in the next winter. Most juvenile branches on peaches will not become the mature canopy. I would either save 2 or 3 of the nice ones that are well spaced on the trunk or I would just cut them all off. It really doesn't matter. It isn't where your tree has been it is where it is going that is important.
Hi Bill, first off great tutorial vid’s! I have a question about a bare root cherry tree I purchased. I kind of purchased it on a whim from Costco. Not exactly sure where in the yard I want it permanently, so I potted it up in a 5 gallon bucket. So I am asking if the tree will be ok in the bucket and then next winter while it is dormant can I transplant into the ground? Also should I remove all the potting soil from the roots when transplanting? SJ California. Thanks!
If it is the right size to fit a 5 gallon bucket then yes, grow it for the season and plant in mid fall just ahead of the rains. If it is a large tree I often use a 7 or 10 gallon pot. There is no need to remove the soil but I would open the roots. The beauty of bare root is no soil interface conditions. Make sure to score the side of the hole so it isn't slick. The roots will spread better. You mentioned you have a Cherry but you didn't say what kind. Only a few Cherries work when planted alone. Most require specific pollination combinations. If you have Stella or Lapins you are fine. There is also a cluster of types usually called Self Fertile Bing.
The tree is only one shoot at the moment (only the “trunk” no side branches). Roots were only 1/8” in diameter, not as big as in your vid. The tag says Bing Cherry. One of the neighbors has a cherry tree. I guess we’ll see how things work out. Thanks again!
How often do I do what? I assume you mean fertilize. That depends on the brand of fertilizer you use. I use Nutricote 360 so twice each year is fine. If you use Miracle grow you feed every 7 to 14 days.
They are 10 and 15 gallon containers. The only reason I put the trees in pots is because I had picked them up bare root for a friend who could not be around to plant them for a few months. In general fruit trees are very difficult to grow to maturity in containers. If you have open ground in the yard i would use it instead of potting the tree. Standard size fruit trees are almost extinct these days. Commercial farmers use mostly semi-dwarf which are by no means small. Dwarf trees are best for in ground planting of home orchards. If you plan to do container growing because you have no soil I would stick to using Genetic Dwarf trees. They are the only trees naturally small enough for mature growth in a pot. The class of Ultra Dwarf can be found on a few trees. These are still pretty big but better than dwarf trees in pots.
GreenGardenGuy1 very thorough response! Thank you!! Trying my hand in planting a multi graph cherry and pluot - both semi dwarf. Also have some columnar apples on the way. I’ll be using your video as a guide to pruning branches and roots in the next few months. Thanks!
@@ifihadthumbstheydbegreen.9426 The columnar apples are genetic dwarf. They are very slow growing and could be container grown. I had 6 type of columnar apples in California and liked most of them. Beware of fire blight on those. The spurs will grow right on the main trunks and transmission of the disease can kill the trunk. Keep all flowers pruned off the trees for 3 years after planting to grow enough wood. If the tree is large enough you can prune away the damage. The Semi Dwarf multi grafts are better off in the ground, they grow very large. Your pots will be on the ground every time the wind blows.
Bill! I keep watching your video. My columnar are coming in a few weeks and based on your descriptions, I’m planning on letting them live their wonderful lives in 13 gallon pots. Can you do a video on permanent fruit tree potting soil? Or at least any thoughts on the permanent aspects of it? Permanent stakes and drainage thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks so much! Edit: what’s up with Bruce? What happened? Would love an update (no pressure Bruce...)
Where do you get your nursery pots from, Bill? I need to up-pot all of my fruit trees. (still haven't put them into the ground because I'm waiting to find the perfect plot of land to cross my path)
Sarah, I probably won't be much help. Because Hawaii is a major producer of house plants and nursery stock we have many wholesale nursery supply stores here. I generally use Nursery Things in Hilo as my container source. In the Bay area any good retail nursery will stock these pots but at a higher cost than i get them for wholesale. Even Home Depot & Walmart generally stock them.
@GreenGardenGuy1 Hello! I have Eastern Redbud, White Dogwood bareroot trees and 2 Crepe Myrtle Shrubs. All are teeny tiny (approx. 12") and dormant. Please, what size pots can I start these in for about a year? Will need to use fabric for cost effectiveness as I have 12 trees. Help! Please advise.
The full dimensions will dictate the size. We often trim the roots and tops anyway. Sounds like you will need the standard "5 gallon" size nursery pot. I never use fabric. The plain black plastic nursery pot is usually the cheapest option. They are durable and can be used over.
@@donnabaker9920 Use your judgement to size the pots as you shop them. Some of your plants may be bigger or smaller. Don't bend the roots to make them fit. Allow a natural spread. Aloha
A friend of mine had an established, but young, small Kwanza Cherry Tree and decided she didn’t want it. When I arrived she had hacked and whacked it to death, but I managed to retrieve ONE LONG SINGLE ROOT. I didn’t have time to plant , so I put it in water. Am I wasting my time if I try to salvage this little root? And, what do you recommend?
Sorry but you were too late. Kwanzan Cherry is never grown on it's own roots. The trees are grafted to a Prunus root stock. If the root sprouts it will not be Kwanzan.
When planting a bare root in the "field" after backfilled and watered and mulched (with wasted hay with some goat manure in it) would you fertilize? If so how often? Thank you!
Some goat manure is likely fine. New trees need very little added fertility. They emerge in spring from the energy stored in the cambium. As the send out new feeder roots they will start to feed from the surrounding soil. They do this slowly though. Over use of manure or fertilizer on new trees is not a good thing. Since goat manure has no label how much to use and how often depends on factors like climate, the manure and soil. Generally light applications two or three times during a growing season is fine. I would judge by tree growth. If your soil is high quality the trees will grow with limited applications. If the soil is poor then the amount and the schedule changes. We get 120" of rain where I live. A fertilizer rated for 6 month intervals only last 2 months around here.
Air layering is useful for people who are looking to reproduce a few trees in the orchard. It is much too slow for most commercial applications. Seeds, grafting or cuttings all produce plants in larger quantities quicker. Here in Hawaii the Lychee and the Longan are commonly sold as air layered trees. I believe this is because they are unstable from seeds, won't grow from cuttings and very hard to graft. I have never asked the growers why they do it that way though. Just a guess on my part.
I bought a couple bare root trees was told to wait a few weeks to plant soaked pruned back and they never did a thing was it a no good tree to start or possibly took to long to plant the tree was always moist but not overly? But I did hear you say they should be planted in winter mine were more planted in spring. Thanks I will just need to try again you have given me hope. One more question if we are always talking about air to the roots why is it so important to get rid of all air pockets. Cheers
Sorry, I believe you have typo's in this message that make it very difficult to determine your question. The last question is clear. Air pockets cause roots to dry out. If roots dry out they die rather than grow. I always build a berm around planting holes and flood the plants several times to settle soil. It is also important to spread the roots to a natural state while planting as sift the soil down between them. You first question looks like some one told you ot soak the plant for 2 weeks before planting. If this is what happened then that is why the plant died. A 24 hour soak is the longest you would ever subject the plant to. A one hour soak is actually much better.
Hi, I'm in Texas! I got a tree from home depot online a bare root multiple apple, it's not dead but having issues not putting out leaves, some little buds. It's in a self watering container and I spilled out the water from the reservoir because it stunk. Should I make sure it's emptying?
July is very late in the year for an apple to leaf out. It may have been in bad condition the day you brought it home. I believe HD has a return desk. I never use self watering pots on out door plants. The rain will fill the soil and drown the plant. The water flow is from the tank to the soil, not the other way around.
great video. I have some 1 1/2 year old bare root walnut trees and the wife and I are planning to move in two years. I wanted to know if I could pot them for 2 years and then transplant them outside once we get in our new house?
I could not think of a worse bare root to try and hold in a pot. Walnuts have huge tap roots. We stopped selling them at the nursery because most came back dead. The huge tap root requires a pot about three times the depth of an ordinary container. I would advise against it but if you insist use a pot over 2 feet deep.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 That's a bummer. Had hoped to get a head start. I also already bought them haha so in your opinion how long could they last in let's say a 15 gallon grow bucket, but still let me transplant?
@@bandols You did what you did and I would not change things. I'm just letting you know keeping a Walnut in a container is not something any nurseryman wants anything to do with. The tap root is too big and the trees suffer. Head start will not be what you get but if you are lucky you will have survival and the tree can recover when it arrives at it's new home. I can only think of three reasons a person would want to put a bare root tree in a pot. You plan to sell it in summer. The sight isn't ready but you have the tree. The tree is a dwarf and intended as a container plant. Best of luck. Placing bare root directly in the soil they are to grow in is one of the reasons we like them. No pot binding and no soil interface issues.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 I did take your adduce and mixed 50/50 the soil in my current yard as I’m planning to purchase in the same neighborhood. Hopefully that helps.
@@bandols Can't hurt. It's just the size of that tap root that causes us nursery types to lose sleep. I really hope it works out okay. Plants like Walnut, Oak, Hickory, Pecan and Pawpaw all have these huge carrot like tap roots that make them stable and drought tolerant. They all reach for the water table. If the tap is stunted in a container it grows up crooked and may not reach the water as well. That's one of the reasons Walnuts do well in CA and Pecans in AZ.
New subscriber! Best video by far! Great at explaining and much information. I purchased a Reliance peach tree that arrived as a bare root stick, with about a foot of the top of the trunk broke off (they sent it in a bag). Do you think it will be ok? And if so, will I need to prune down, above a bud? I’ve had a lot of success with bare roots, but never had one shipped in a bag. :/
As long as the tree still has good wood above the graft line no harm was done. Peach is generally reduced to an "orchard cut" when planted commercially. The bare root trees are chopped off 12 to 18" above the ground when planting. The next winter they are reduced to the three best scaffold limbs. Lack of pruning, not pruning is the enemy of the peach tree.
Provided you buy a proper sized container half way up from the bottom is close to right. If I had planted any higher the root system would have been exposed. Forgive me for not mentioning the basic rule, plant with the last root near soil level. That is just what I did.
I just received my bare root plum trees, and it has rained a bunch, so I was forced to put my trees in pots. I have a question, in about a week when the ground dries, can I remove the potting soil from around them and plant the bare roots in the natural soil, will it set the tree back any? Thanks in advance four your reply. BTW, I live in Eastern NC, if that makes a difference.
If the trees are only held in the containers for a couple weeks you can remove them and transplant the trees bare root to the field. If they are held in the pots long enough that the roots are meshing the soil then the trees should be left to root until they can hold the soil ball together. Half way between you would likely do a lot of root damage.
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The container size is judged by the size of the plant. I am using a 7 & a 15 gallon size container. One of the trees was too large for the smaller pot.
Yes, most of us work organic matter into clay soil. I suggest turning in cover crops like rye, vetch or alfalfa. This video was about container plants though. Do not use native clay soil in containers whether it is amended or not. Leave right out there in the field where you found it. The only two native soils that ever get mixed into potting soils are high quality sandy loam and in Hawaii volcanic cinder. Even these are only used in a minor percentage for best results.
I would never knock worm castings as a biological activator but as a source of NPK they are low and rather variable. If you use a good organic fertilizer in the pot worms will come to it like candy and leave castings with out having to add them.
Perhaps you are mistaking the information about mineral salt based fertilizers, know as chemical fertilizer, for organic fertilizers? Most good organic fertilizers are very good for the soil. Many of the modern ones include a huge cluster of beneficial soil microbes and fungi. Generalizations are usually incorrect. Be specific about information and accept nothing at face value, use critical thinking. Bill
With out reviewing the entire video i am pretty sure I covered that. I judged the pot size by the tree size. If I recall the smaller tree got a 7 gallon and the bigger one got a 15 gallon. Bare root plants are never started in smaller than a 5 gallon. In the nursery they are canned to 5s and if they didn't sell they shift to 15s.
No matter where you live the apple tree can get a variety of diseases. In Hawaii we appear to free of the worst apple disease, Erwinia amylovora, aka Fire Blight. This one is terrible on the Mainland. Here the main issues are Chinese fruit flies, Rose Beetles and tropical weather. Apples need to be cold in the winter so it is best to use low chill types and be as high up the mountains as possible. I get fruit at 1600' but between 4000' and 6000' would be better.
I’ve heard NOT to fertilize bare root trees it could kill them ?!?!! I’m so confused 🤷🏽♀️ I know I don’t fertilize some of my other plants (plumeria, Brugmansia ) until I see new growth (when planted as smaller rooted cuttings) so the roots adjusted and began to grow first. I wonder why everyone says something different?
I believe if you review my video on expert opinions you might understand more about why you get different answers from different people. I won't waste anymore type on that one. th-cam.com/video/qrlolqu-LGY/w-d-xo.html In the earth there are a lot of plants that don't need to be fertilized and others that need to be fed. In a container everything requires feeding for good results. The container is artificial and not truly connected to the environment at large. Potted plants rely on you to feed them. I believe the idea about not feeding a bare root tree must come from the miss interpretation of not feed them with a high nitrogen fertilizer. I ran one of the most famous nurseries in the California Bay Area for 20 years and if my people didn't get a high phosphorus fertilizer in the hands of every bare root shopper I would want to know why. In a last word, having worked in the business for much of my life, I can testify there are a lot of folks out there that think they know horticulture who would be better off selling used cars.
Well who ever wrote that message on ebay had best follow their own advice. As for me, I've been in the nursery business most of my life and I KNOW that 100% of the potted fruit trees in nurseries across the USA get started as bare roots trees that are transplanted to pots for sale. It is only the dormant season trees that are sold as bare root. Just goes to show you the internet has an amazing amount of BS circulating. Confirm information by using university or other informed websites. Avoid information from commercial and private sources unless it is well known to be reputable.
@@GreenGardenGuy1I agree! I've actually got a couple bare root trees coming to me in the mail and I'm a little worried about them arriving when I'm out of town for the weekend. I guess they'll be fine as long as not in the direct sun or jammed into my mailbox with bad packaging. This person decided to wait and ship at a random time.
@@wheelmanstan I like to shop bare root at the local nurseries so I can choose. Here the bare root trees arrive from California in January. I assume yours must have been in cold storage.
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It has been a long road to this point. thank you.
Wow! Much gratitude for your thorough instructions! Love the no-frills and relaxed presentation, your style and cadence - made it easier to absorb the info (and I have to say that by the end of the video I was wishing that I was a friend of yours that could just hang out and share good conversation, laughs, highs and lows of life in ‘Earth School’ - but of course, I’m merely projecting my imaginary ideas of who you are. just thought I’d let you know how well you come across on the video.) Can’t wait to check out your other videos. Aloha!
Thank you for the feed back. I am pretty much the character you see in the videos. I trim my behavior on both ends. You seldom see me telling my cat how much I love her and I aways edit the 4 letter words when tour helicopters come over head while I am recording. You noticed, I still engage the fine old Hawaiian tradition of "talking story". I never use emoji, never text and never use social media. I still sit around on the lanai, enjoy the trade winds and talk story with friends face to face.
I luv ur simplicity! Finally, someone that knows what they’re talking about! Thx so much, an official new sub y!
Thanks for the sub and I'm glad you found the video useful. Aloha
You are a wealth of information. I just subscribed to your channel after stumbling on here. Thank you for the education on bare root trees.
You're welcome. I did a lot of business with bare root while running nursery in California. We get some bare root in Hawaii but just a few adapted varieties. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 it's very interesting as I've never seen bare root trees sold at a nursery. I live near Philadelphia and have only known them to be available via mail order. I have a small orchard and never knew bare root stock are superior.
Most of the countries fruit production is in California. So are most of the US bareroot tree growers. All commercial temperate fruit and nut farms are planted from bareroot trees. In California most good nurseries have bareroot in stock from January to February. Our sales was in the thousands annually on these. We have one nursery in Hilo HI that ships in bareroot from Dave Wilson in CA. Because there are not very many temperate fruit plants that will grow here, the selection is limited. Japanese persimmons and low chill peaches are the big sellers. Because bareroot are planted with native soil they do not have soil interface conditions.
Wow I am so glad I found your channel !!! 😁😁😁You are awesome and so full of great information!!! I’m still abit unsure about pruning but I noticed you have lots of “how to” videos !!! 😁😁😁Thank you so much !!! 😁😁😁
Pruning is very important with fruit trees. Work at it and get comfortable with the idea. It is difficult to hurt a tree by pruning it.
Great Info! Thanks for the class, Bill.
I sold thousands of bare root trees during my years as a nursery man. Glad to help. Bill
Best video I’ve seen on this, thanks Bill.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for the comment.
Thank you, thank you! The company I ordered from (MONTHS AGO) decided to wait until May to actually send them to me in drought-stricken California where it’s already 80F! I’ve got to keep them in pots until fall so they will actually survive in situ.
You are welcome, best luck, Bill
Learned a TON from this video. Thank you!
I am happy to share. Aloha, Bill
You are dead on with the Bare Root placed in pots and shipped to a big box store. That was my experience of shaking off some potting soil and the root looked like a dead stick, the trees are growing even with some deer damage. Your pruning method was helpful without a bunch of fluff like I see in books and other videos.
Thank you. As for the fluff, I did this for a living in both nursery and orchards. I lost the fluff about the same time the hair on my head fell out! Aloha.
Thanks for the bare root lessons kind sir!
Thanks for having a look, Bill
Thanks for sharing! Very informative.
Thank you
I love ur advice, thanks so much u make it seem so easy.xx
Thank you. Only a few simple rules, no rocket science involved!
Thank you for this very informative video. I'm going to plant them in London, UK.
Other than brands of material and fruit varieties all should be the same in UK as in HI!
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love your attitude on this lmao thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed your tutor.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video thanks bill
You're welcome.
I found your twin! Dr. John Bergman on You Tube !!! Great video by the way!
Thank you.
Thank you, lots of information, brilliant,
I live in England and want to TRY and plant a bare root Cherry Blossom Tree, so hopefully with your vedio it should be ok. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. 🤗🤗
Soak the roots for a hour before planting. Trim any that are broken. Plant roots down and top up. It is actually pretty simple. Don't forget to give the tree something to feed on. That is very important in containers.
Thank u sow much! I learned a lot from your video. My church had a bare root sale from Sierra gold nursery for $15 each! So I bought 2 Honey crisp apple 🍎 trees. I’m north of Sacramento. They need a pollinator. Any tips?
What climate zone you live in depends on what pollinator you use. If you are in 5 and up the Gala apple is used. It is a fine apple on it's own. Looks like you will have to pick it up at full price since you didn't get a pollinator at the sale. Best hurry, most bare root sales will be over for the year soon.
Hi Bill! I just planted a bare root nectarine in the ground, zone 9b. Should I cut the tips of the branches on the downward curve like you did with these apples? I’ve cut the center for an open vase shape but left the others. Eventually I’d love for it to have that beautiful wide look I’ve seen on some older trees in our neighborhood.
Thanks again for making these videos! They are so helpful and help me so much!
I must note that a "wide" look on old peaches is a bad thing. The further the trees spread the more likely the weak wood will break and damage the plant. Keep the trees pulled to the center when pruning each year.
There are many different ways to approach pruning the tree. A commercial grower would plant the trees using an orchard cut. This is removing all growth from the side branches and then cutting the main trunk to 24". I sometimes save a few branches but usually the wood I saved is cut away in the next winter. Most juvenile branches on peaches will not become the mature canopy. I would either save 2 or 3 of the nice ones that are well spaced on the trunk or I would just cut them all off. It really doesn't matter. It isn't where your tree has been it is where it is going that is important.
Hi Bill, first off great tutorial vid’s! I have a question about a bare root cherry tree I purchased. I kind of purchased it on a whim from Costco. Not exactly sure where in the yard I want it permanently, so I potted it up in a 5 gallon bucket.
So I am asking if the tree will be ok in the bucket and then next winter while it is dormant can I transplant into the ground? Also should I remove all the potting soil from the roots when transplanting? SJ California. Thanks!
If it is the right size to fit a 5 gallon bucket then yes, grow it for the season and plant in mid fall just ahead of the rains. If it is a large tree I often use a 7 or 10 gallon pot. There is no need to remove the soil but I would open the roots. The beauty of bare root is no soil interface conditions. Make sure to score the side of the hole so it isn't slick. The roots will spread better. You mentioned you have a Cherry but you didn't say what kind. Only a few Cherries work when planted alone. Most require specific pollination combinations. If you have Stella or Lapins you are fine. There is also a cluster of types usually called Self Fertile Bing.
The tree is only one shoot at the moment (only the “trunk” no side branches). Roots were only 1/8” in diameter, not as big as in your vid. The tag says Bing Cherry. One of the neighbors has a cherry tree. I guess we’ll see how things work out. Thanks again!
thank you so much for sharing :)
You're welcome.
Very good vid.
Thank you
Thank you. Sometime using a container is the solution. Aloha
How often do you after you’ve planted the tree in the pot.
How often do I do what? I assume you mean fertilize. That depends on the brand of fertilizer you use. I use Nutricote 360 so twice each year is fine. If you use Miracle grow you feed every 7 to 14 days.
Fantastic info Bill! What size pots were those? 5-10 gallon? Guess the best tree to put in a pot is a dwarf instead of semi-dwarf.
They are 10 and 15 gallon containers. The only reason I put the trees in pots is because I had picked them up bare root for a friend who could not be around to plant them for a few months. In general fruit trees are very difficult to grow to maturity in containers. If you have open ground in the yard i would use it instead of potting the tree. Standard size fruit trees are almost extinct these days. Commercial farmers use mostly semi-dwarf which are by no means small. Dwarf trees are best for in ground planting of home orchards. If you plan to do container growing because you have no soil I would stick to using Genetic Dwarf trees. They are the only trees naturally small enough for mature growth in a pot. The class of Ultra Dwarf can be found on a few trees. These are still pretty big but better than dwarf trees in pots.
GreenGardenGuy1 very thorough response! Thank you!! Trying my hand in planting a multi graph cherry and pluot - both semi dwarf. Also have some columnar apples on the way. I’ll be using your video as a guide to pruning branches and roots in the next few months. Thanks!
@@ifihadthumbstheydbegreen.9426 The columnar apples are genetic dwarf. They are very slow growing and could be container grown. I had 6 type of columnar apples in California and liked most of them. Beware of fire blight on those. The spurs will grow right on the main trunks and transmission of the disease can kill the trunk. Keep all flowers pruned off the trees for 3 years after planting to grow enough wood. If the tree is large enough you can prune away the damage.
The Semi Dwarf multi grafts are better off in the ground, they grow very large. Your pots will be on the ground every time the wind blows.
GreenGardenGuy1 excellent advice! Very detailed again, many thanks!
Bill! I keep watching your video. My columnar are coming in a few weeks and based on your descriptions, I’m planning on letting them live their wonderful lives in 13 gallon pots. Can you do a video on permanent fruit tree potting soil? Or at least any thoughts on the permanent aspects of it? Permanent stakes and drainage thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks so much! Edit: what’s up with Bruce? What happened? Would love an update (no pressure Bruce...)
Where do you get your nursery pots from, Bill? I need to up-pot all of my fruit trees. (still haven't put them into the ground because I'm waiting to find the perfect plot of land to cross my path)
Sarah, I probably won't be much help. Because Hawaii is a major producer of house plants and nursery stock we have many wholesale nursery supply stores here. I generally use Nursery Things in Hilo as my container source. In the Bay area any good retail nursery will stock these pots but at a higher cost than i get them for wholesale. Even Home Depot & Walmart generally stock them.
@GreenGardenGuy1 Hello! I have Eastern Redbud, White Dogwood bareroot trees and 2 Crepe Myrtle Shrubs. All are teeny tiny (approx. 12") and dormant. Please, what size pots can I start these in for about a year? Will need to use fabric for cost effectiveness as I have 12 trees. Help! Please advise.
The full dimensions will dictate the size. We often trim the roots and tops anyway. Sounds like you will need the standard "5 gallon" size nursery pot. I never use fabric. The plain black plastic nursery pot is usually the cheapest option. They are durable and can be used over.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thank you so much for your help and fast reply!
@@donnabaker9920 Use your judgement to size the pots as you shop them. Some of your plants may be bigger or smaller. Don't bend the roots to make them fit. Allow a natural spread. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Ordered 5 gallon as advised. :) Thank you once again, I appreciate your helpfulness. :)
@@donnabaker9920 Use a high quality potting soil and a time release fertilizer.
A friend of mine had an established, but young, small Kwanza Cherry Tree and decided she didn’t want it. When I arrived she had hacked and whacked it to death, but I managed to retrieve ONE LONG SINGLE ROOT. I didn’t have time to plant , so I put it in water. Am I wasting my time if I try to salvage this little root? And, what do you recommend?
Sorry but you were too late. Kwanzan Cherry is never grown on it's own roots. The trees are grafted to a Prunus root stock. If the root sprouts it will not be Kwanzan.
When planting a bare root in the "field" after backfilled and watered and mulched (with wasted hay with some goat manure in it) would you fertilize? If so how often? Thank you!
Some goat manure is likely fine. New trees need very little added fertility. They emerge in spring from the energy stored in the cambium. As the send out new feeder roots they will start to feed from the surrounding soil. They do this slowly though. Over use of manure or fertilizer on new trees is not a good thing. Since goat manure has no label how much to use and how often depends on factors like climate, the manure and soil. Generally light applications two or three times during a growing season is fine. I would judge by tree growth. If your soil is high quality the trees will grow with limited applications. If the soil is poor then the amount and the schedule changes. We get 120" of rain where I live. A fertilizer rated for 6 month intervals only last 2 months around here.
You ever do air layering? It seems like a good way to get fruit earlier than starting from seed.
Air layering is useful for people who are looking to reproduce a few trees in the orchard. It is much too slow for most commercial applications. Seeds, grafting or cuttings all produce plants in larger quantities quicker. Here in Hawaii the Lychee and the Longan are commonly sold as air layered trees. I believe this is because they are unstable from seeds, won't grow from cuttings and very hard to graft. I have never asked the growers why they do it that way though. Just a guess on my part.
I bought a couple bare root trees was told to wait a few weeks to plant soaked pruned back and they never did a thing was it a no good tree to start or possibly took to long to plant the tree was always moist but not overly? But I did hear you say they should be planted in winter mine were more planted in spring. Thanks I will just need to try again you have given me hope. One more question if we are always talking about air to the roots why is it so important to get rid of all air pockets. Cheers
Sorry, I believe you have typo's in this message that make it very difficult to determine your question. The last question is clear. Air pockets cause roots to dry out. If roots dry out they die rather than grow. I always build a berm around planting holes and flood the plants several times to settle soil. It is also important to spread the roots to a natural state while planting as sift the soil down between them.
You first question looks like some one told you ot soak the plant for 2 weeks before planting. If this is what happened then that is why the plant died. A 24 hour soak is the longest you would ever subject the plant to. A one hour soak is actually much better.
Hi, I'm in Texas! I got a tree from home depot online a bare root multiple apple, it's not dead but having issues not putting out leaves, some little buds. It's in a self watering container and I spilled out the water from the reservoir because it stunk. Should I make sure it's emptying?
July is very late in the year for an apple to leaf out. It may have been in bad condition the day you brought it home. I believe HD has a return desk. I never use self watering pots on out door plants. The rain will fill the soil and drown the plant. The water flow is from the tank to the soil, not the other way around.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thank you 😊
@@melaniee8781 You're welcome
great video. I have some 1 1/2 year old bare root walnut trees and the wife and I are planning to move in two years. I wanted to know if I could pot them for 2 years and then transplant them outside once we get in our new house?
I could not think of a worse bare root to try and hold in a pot. Walnuts have huge tap roots. We stopped selling them at the nursery because most came back dead. The huge tap root requires a pot about three times the depth of an ordinary container. I would advise against it but if you insist use a pot over 2 feet deep.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 That's a bummer. Had hoped to get a head start. I also already bought them haha so in your opinion how long could they last in let's say a 15 gallon grow bucket, but still let me transplant?
@@bandols You did what you did and I would not change things. I'm just letting you know keeping a Walnut in a container is not something any nurseryman wants anything to do with. The tap root is too big and the trees suffer. Head start will not be what you get but if you are lucky you will have survival and the tree can recover when it arrives at it's new home. I can only think of three reasons a person would want to put a bare root tree in a pot. You plan to sell it in summer. The sight isn't ready but you have the tree. The tree is a dwarf and intended as a container plant. Best of luck. Placing bare root directly in the soil they are to grow in is one of the reasons we like them. No pot binding and no soil interface issues.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 I did take your adduce and mixed 50/50 the soil in my current yard as I’m planning to purchase in the same neighborhood. Hopefully that helps.
@@bandols Can't hurt. It's just the size of that tap root that causes us nursery types to lose sleep. I really hope it works out okay. Plants like Walnut, Oak, Hickory, Pecan and Pawpaw all have these huge carrot like tap roots that make them stable and drought tolerant. They all reach for the water table. If the tap is stunted in a container it grows up crooked and may not reach the water as well. That's one of the reasons Walnuts do well in CA and Pecans in AZ.
Can I put them in the sun after this? they dont have leaves yet
Yes, they are ready to grow and need good light. Aloha
Bill. i am in kurtistown...Where did you get the bare root golden dorsett?
Paradise Plants in Hilo brought a load of bare root trees from California last week. There may still be a few left, hurry!
New subscriber! Best video by far! Great at explaining and much information. I purchased a Reliance peach tree that arrived as a bare root stick, with about a foot of the top of the trunk broke off (they sent it in a bag). Do you think it will be ok? And if so, will I need to prune down, above a bud? I’ve had a lot of success with bare roots, but never had one shipped in a bag. :/
As long as the tree still has good wood above the graft line no harm was done. Peach is generally reduced to an "orchard cut" when planted commercially. The bare root trees are chopped off 12 to 18" above the ground when planting. The next winter they are reduced to the three best scaffold limbs. Lack of pruning, not pruning is the enemy of the peach tree.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thank you! Really appreciate the feedback! Have a great week!
@@JustanotherMainer Sure thing. Aloha
Wouldn't you want to plant the tree higher than half way of the plot so there is more soil space for new roots to occupy?
Provided you buy a proper sized container half way up from the bottom is close to right. If I had planted any higher the root system would have been exposed. Forgive me for not mentioning the basic rule, plant with the last root near soil level. That is just what I did.
I just received my bare root plum trees, and it has rained a bunch, so I was forced to put my trees in pots. I have a question, in about a week when the ground dries, can I remove the potting soil from around them and plant the bare roots in the natural soil, will it set the tree back any? Thanks in advance four your reply. BTW, I live in Eastern NC, if that makes a difference.
If the trees are only held in the containers for a couple weeks you can remove them and transplant the trees bare root to the field. If they are held in the pots long enough that the roots are meshing the soil then the trees should be left to root until they can hold the soil ball together. Half way between you would likely do a lot of root damage.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Thank you very much! That is what I was thinking but wanted to get your advice! Appreciate you!
@@Big88Country Good luck with the orchard. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Thank you!
@@Big88Country Sure thing.
Hey what happened to the resonator music Green Garden Guy?
Nothing, I still play. I just haven't been in the mood to sit before the camera with guitar lately. Right now I jammed a squash seed, that was stuck to the drying paper, under my right hand 3rd finger nail. It bled and the finger hurts. I'm taking a guitar break until it heals, or have to switch to a flat pick. I'll give this some thought.
What is container sizes
The container size is judged by the size of the plant. I am using a 7 & a 15 gallon size container. One of the trees was too large for the smaller pot.
Do you amend clay soil?
Yes, most of us work organic matter into clay soil. I suggest turning in cover crops like rye, vetch or alfalfa. This video was about container plants though. Do not use native clay soil in containers whether it is amended or not. Leave right out there in the field where you found it. The only two native soils that ever get mixed into potting soils are high quality sandy loam and in Hawaii volcanic cinder. Even these are only used in a minor percentage for best results.
Instead of using fertilizer on the tree, can you use worm castings? Will worm castings work as good as fertilizer?
I would never knock worm castings as a biological activator but as a source of NPK they are low and rather variable. If you use a good organic fertilizer in the pot worms will come to it like candy and leave castings with out having to add them.
GreenGardenGuy1 great! I didn't know that. I was under the impression that fertilizer normally kills the soil overtime.
Perhaps you are mistaking the information about mineral salt based fertilizers, know as chemical fertilizer, for organic fertilizers? Most good organic fertilizers are very good for the soil. Many of the modern ones include a huge cluster of beneficial soil microbes and fungi. Generalizations are usually incorrect. Be specific about information and accept nothing at face value, use critical thinking. Bill
wht size pots are you using?
With out reviewing the entire video i am pretty sure I covered that. I judged the pot size by the tree size. If I recall the smaller tree got a 7 gallon and the bigger one got a 15 gallon. Bare root plants are never started in smaller than a 5 gallon. In the nursery they are canned to 5s and if they didn't sell they shift to 15s.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thanks. I thought I heard 7 gallon, but wasn't sure about the other one.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Just found you today.. Intrigued: saved the video. Followed/liked am and now checking out you other videos
@@TheUncoveredReport The judgement is by tree size. Little trees, little pots, big trees, big pots. The root system should fit without being folded.
@@TheUncoveredReport Enjoy, thousands of videos on the channels. All manner of subject matter. Aloha
Are apple trees subject to deseases in Hawaii?
No matter where you live the apple tree can get a variety of diseases. In Hawaii we appear to free of the worst apple disease, Erwinia amylovora, aka Fire Blight. This one is terrible on the Mainland. Here the main issues are Chinese fruit flies, Rose Beetles and tropical weather. Apples need to be cold in the winter so it is best to use low chill types and be as high up the mountains as possible. I get fruit at 1600' but between 4000' and 6000' would be better.
I’ve heard NOT to fertilize bare root trees it could kill them ?!?!! I’m so confused 🤷🏽♀️
I know I don’t fertilize some of my other plants (plumeria, Brugmansia ) until I see new growth (when planted as smaller rooted cuttings) so the roots adjusted and began to grow first. I wonder why everyone says something different?
I believe if you review my video on expert opinions you might understand more about why you get different answers from different people. I won't waste anymore type on that one.
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In the earth there are a lot of plants that don't need to be fertilized and others that need to be fed. In a container everything requires feeding for good results. The container is artificial and not truly connected to the environment at large. Potted plants rely on you to feed them. I believe the idea about not feeding a bare root tree must come from the miss interpretation of not feed them with a high nitrogen fertilizer. I ran one of the most famous nurseries in the California Bay Area for 20 years and if my people didn't get a high phosphorus fertilizer in the hands of every bare root shopper I would want to know why. In a last word, having worked in the business for much of my life, I can testify there are a lot of folks out there that think they know horticulture who would be better off selling used cars.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 haha, well said!
@@Abdullah-london Ask 10 experts the same question and you may get 10 different answers, all of them right with in point of reference.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 I laughed about the used car bit!
@@Abdullah-london We can all use a bit of humor.. Thanks for watching.
Saw a person listing seedlings on ebay and she added at the bottom, BARE ROOT TREES SHOULD NOT BE PLANTED IN POTS, haha what?!
Well who ever wrote that message on ebay had best follow their own advice. As for me, I've been in the nursery business most of my life and I KNOW that 100% of the potted fruit trees in nurseries across the USA get started as bare roots trees that are transplanted to pots for sale. It is only the dormant season trees that are sold as bare root. Just goes to show you the internet has an amazing amount of BS circulating. Confirm information by using university or other informed websites. Avoid information from commercial and private sources unless it is well known to be reputable.
@@GreenGardenGuy1I agree! I've actually got a couple bare root trees coming to me in the mail and I'm a little worried about them arriving when I'm out of town for the weekend. I guess they'll be fine as long as not in the direct sun or jammed into my mailbox with bad packaging. This person decided to wait and ship at a random time.
@@wheelmanstan I like to shop bare root at the local nurseries so I can choose. Here the bare root trees arrive from California in January. I assume yours must have been in cold storage.