That is always the funniest thing, when I scout out the new tracks for my track walks. There are a couple of other tracks, mainly dirt oval, where I really had to think about how the pitroad works.
1:50 - That's not true actually, but it's probably the only one where you regularly get pits during the race on it. Southern National has two separate pit lanes, and South Boston has two separate pit roads that literally cross over each other! You'd perhaps never know if you only ran them once or twice as they're short track that don't usually run long races, so you never actually pit. It did however screw me over once when I accidentally hit one of the pit exit cones on Southern National, giving me a black flag 😭 The real king of weird pit roads for me is Oxford Plains. I don't think I've ever seen a pit road that starts as one, and then splits into two different pit roads on separate routes, and then merges back together again. You can literally miss your pit stall by taking the wrong path!
They could do a Bristol-style pit situation for Road Atlanta if they wanted. Chaos would inevitably ensue, but it would just be the standard multi-class fare at worst.
I see comments already pointing out Oxford Plains, but I have to add that the left pit road has stalls on the left and right. Awesome to see this topic covered, it is my first time seeing some of these oddities.
Fun story about Bristol: 3 years ago when it was Bristol week every oval series had Bristol with the normal single pit lane. All but one series: A Open. Yup, somehow everything else, even A fixed, had the right single pit layout but if you wanted to do some open racing then you had to learn the dual system
Ahh the old back stretch pit lanes at Bristol I remember a time before NASCAR made the rule you had to go through the entirety of pit road and could just pit off turn 2. This really put drivers at a disadvantage at the time
While not an Iracing circuit (yet) The new downtown Detroit street circuit will have IndyCars peeling off both right and left. This is because the pitlane very short but also extremely wide. Will be the first time a major series does this. Only other time I can think of is the "Gilligan's Island" pit road at Sears Point back in the day. But that was 2 separate pit lanes.
I know ALMS and IndyCar had both side pits at the Baltimore Street track. It wasn't half and half I think it was like only 3 pit stalls on one side and everyone else on the other.
My home track had a double sided pit road (one lane, both sides) and they had to run noncompetitive pit stops and couldn’t count caution laps. It was down the middle of the infield, you entered between 3 and 4 and exited between 1 and 2.
The assetto corsa mod for COTA east has the pit lane in the run-off on the last corner of this layout, the one before the hairpin Only thing is the mod creator did not seperate pits, so if you go wide pit limiter engages Still, if you just added a concrete wall there it make for a perfectly servicable pit lane
I’ve done hosted races on most of these tracks. They had about 40 cars for each race and drive throughs for getting over 12x so there was quite a few people struggling with tear pit roads
The original Charlotte road would be my favourite for worst pitlane in iRacing. The track was always moderately popular, but the pit exited directly onto the very fast first corner. Here's what happens if you do it wrong: th-cam.com/video/FlYIqRIuS3s/w-d-xo.html And here's how you are meant to do it: th-cam.com/video/fC4Cytlu5zU/w-d-xo.html And here's my instructional video on how to do it, which I needed for some league events I ran there with mid-race pitstops: th-cam.com/video/scnYnTqO9Lk/w-d-xo.html
Might I suggest Silverstone 2008 Southern course pitroad. Last I knew you couldn't get on pitroad without getting a 1x offtrack and its a course that the Production car challenge used to race at a few years ago.
Yesss RBR North! Fun fact: when it went official in PCC last season, the fastest way to qualify was to take to the pits on the outlap for a longer run up the hill😂
Non-subject question. Really like video quality of your videos. What are the CPU/RAM/GPU specs on your system? Also, what app are you using to screen record? Thanks. I have a pretty stout system but really struggle to get the quality of screen recording I am looking for.
@DJ Yee-J Thanks! I must be doing something wrong. I've got a Ryzen 5 5600, 32GB RAM and a EVGA Geforce RTX 3060Ti and haven't been able to record the game with anything close to what you have.
Honestly Bristol's dual pit lanes are nowhere near as bad as they were back in the day. Getting a backstretch pit stall was once a death sentence thanks to 2 rules. The first was that you didn't have to drive thru both pit lanes under caution, you just drove down whichever pit your box was on. The second was that the first cars allowed to pit were the cars that had front stretch pit stalls. In other words, if you had a back stretch pit box you would have to wait at pace car speed while all the front stretch drivers pitted and then you would come around to get your chance to pit. When the front stretch guys were done they could accelerate back up to rejoin behind the pace car and would effectively jump anyone with a back stretch pit.
Check out Legacy Silverstone Southern. The pit road and pit out aren't too bad, but the pit in? 90 degree left through a bit of tarmac barely wider than your car right on line for the entry to Stowe, OR.... a 1x over some very bumpy runoff. Either way, truly fantastic Barcelona Club is also tied for first with an M shaped pit road, and Snetterton 100 isn't far off The old Suzuka West pits were good too. Basically a reverse of the Legacy Charlotte Infield. Wall in the center, pit stalls left and right of it, merging just before the one lane pit out. Sadly that got patched out about a year ago Rockingham Infield Short is possibly the slowest pit lane. 15mph limit
Thanks! I almost put rockingham on there but legacy Charlotte did the same thing and had double sided pits. Didn’t know about the others might need to do a part 2
Interesting that they did something for VIR Patriot, cause in Forza Motorsport you can't perform pitstops on that layout and therefore cannot run fuel and tire wear
i saw the title and knew daytona rally cross would be here but its not and then I remembered it didn't exist... the only reason I know this is because I jumped the start in a pro 2 lite race and got black flagged and had to go into pits. I challenge you to find pit road entry as I got disqualified for cutting the course and even after 10 mins of practice I couldn't find it... So fast repairs are useless here also haha
Every time one of these videos comes out, I'm fascinated by how in detail this channel has made you understand the game. I assume in three or four years when you run out of game mechanics to talk about, you're going to start breaking down the binary coding. Or at least read through all of it on a charity stream. 😂😂
Here's the thing with the Hell RX pit road. This is a rally cross track, and they don't pit at all during the real race. Plus there are only, at most, six cars ever on track racing at the same time. Been a while since I watched real RX action though, so maybe that changed.
Hell RX road short is actually a full road course configuration in iracing. It’s very janky and never used, I actually covered it in a previous video. It’s a rally track for all intents and purposes, but it’s all tarmac so iracing designates it as road
Nah you right rallycross as a discipline remains unchanged and the dirt section being the pitlane is the normal circuit for the rx as well as the joker lap part at the first hairpin
I think there was an IndyCar street course (Detroit?) that had pits on left and right sides. I think they basically had a line down the middle that wasn't to be crossed, basically making it two parallel pit roads
I've done a league race that required pit stops (multiple! we were using the RX cars and it turns out those bad boys can only go a few laps at a time...) at the Charlotte infield course. It was just as horrifying as one might expect. The people with the first and last stalls on the right hand side are particularly fucked since they have to take harder turns than anyone else. Edit: also ran a league race on müllenbachschleife where I ended up pitting multiple times for fast repairs (the very cursed car class list included TCR, LMP1, and the Beetle Lite). That was also awful though TBH not really any worse than the corners you skip by taking the pit lane, especially with multiclass racing and cars like the LMP1 that simply cannot turn that sharply.
You should take a look at Legacy Silverstone Southern layout, instead of taking Stowe, you have to take the tightest left entry ever off to the side of the corner as to not get a pit road penalty and the pit road is the runoff area between Stowe and Club
Lanier has a super cursed pit road, you enter off of turn 4, do a full lap on the pit road, then exit on turn 1. Just ads insult to injury after getting taken out in a street stock.
Martinsville had dual pits, but they've converted the backstretch pit area into more of a garage area, and safety vehicle lane. So did Rockingham (US). But I'm not going to include this..... --Because it's currently not on any major racing series. (NASCAR, ARCA, IROC, SRX, etc) -- And secondly, it hasn't been used in years prior to NASCAR's last race at Rockingham in 2006, or so.
Oh dude I’m waiting! First and most important thing is really good physics and FFB, which suck in iRacing! The best on the market at the moment are the Rfactor2 physics, they should be at least as good as that because your game is 10 years newer, so basically they should be much better if you have the ambition to make a realistic game! Oh real physics means also real tires, because the iRacing tires are like a thin layer of rubber, no real durability, way too slidy and absolutely no sidewall feel. You should be able to race like in real life, which is on and sometimes a bit over the limit. But over the limit is just not possible in iRacing because of its way to slidy physics.
@@rolux4853 I'm basically starting with the mechanics that are relatively simple to implement and prototyping with the Unity engine while I develop my own engine/framework, since that's basically the only engine I can afford to use to make my own games and it's the only one I know how to use. > "Oh dude I’m waiting! First and most important thing is really good physics and FFB, which suck in iRacing!" Finding any FFB tutorials for game developers is like finding a needle at the bottom of the ocean buried in a mile of sand. Guess what Unity does not support at all. > "The best on the market at the moment are the Rfactor2 physics" I'm a big fan of gMotor/isiMotor, but I cannot afford the license. I have no choice but to make my own engine, which has been a struggle to say the least. > "Oh real physics means also real tires, because the iRacing tires are like a thin layer of rubber, no real durability, way too slidy and absolutely no sidewall feel." The irony is that gMotor has the ability to simulate this with the much simpler tire model from rFactor 1. > "You should be able to race like in real life, which is on and sometimes a bit over the limit." Like in NASCAR SimRacing? Granted I think you can go too far over the limit in that game and still recover, but at least you can recover from it. > "But over the limit is just not possible in iRacing because of its way to slidy physics." So I've noticed.
@@TChapman500Gaming thank you very much for your detailed reply! I really appreciate it! I hope you’re project will succeed, it definitely sounds promising for a one man project!
*ahem* It's pronounced Neer-boorg-ring. Despite the similarity in name to the city of Nuremberg (Nürnberg), the Nürburgring has nothing to do with Nuremberg.
LA Coliseum has to be one of the wildest real life configurations on the service, even if it doesn’t have live stops IRL
Haven't watched it all yet, but Oxford better be on here
rippp I completely forgot about Oxford Plains That would be a solid #3, #4 with the diverging pit roads
Once you do it IRL, or atleast do a live pitstop IRL, it's way more simple 😅😅
That is always the funniest thing, when I scout out the new tracks for my track walks.
There are a couple of other tracks, mainly dirt oval, where I really had to think about how the pitroad works.
Some of those need an in game gps
1:50 - That's not true actually, but it's probably the only one where you regularly get pits during the race on it. Southern National has two separate pit lanes, and South Boston has two separate pit roads that literally cross over each other! You'd perhaps never know if you only ran them once or twice as they're short track that don't usually run long races, so you never actually pit. It did however screw me over once when I accidentally hit one of the pit exit cones on Southern National, giving me a black flag 😭
The real king of weird pit roads for me is Oxford Plains. I don't think I've ever seen a pit road that starts as one, and then splits into two different pit roads on separate routes, and then merges back together again. You can literally miss your pit stall by taking the wrong path!
Idk how i missed southern national I was just on it doing an arca guide for next week hahahaha
dual pits is a lifesaver at bristol. saves you multiple laps during green flag stops
They could do a Bristol-style pit situation for Road Atlanta if they wanted. Chaos would inevitably ensue, but it would just be the standard multi-class fare at worst.
i noticed that a few months ago and want it so badly
I see comments already pointing out Oxford Plains, but I have to add that the left pit road has stalls on the left and right. Awesome to see this topic covered, it is my first time seeing some of these oddities.
Fun story about Bristol: 3 years ago when it was Bristol week every oval series had Bristol with the normal single pit lane. All but one series: A Open. Yup, somehow everything else, even A fixed, had the right single pit layout but if you wanted to do some open racing then you had to learn the dual system
Ahh the old back stretch pit lanes at Bristol I remember a time before NASCAR made the rule you had to go through the entirety of pit road and could just pit off turn 2. This really put drivers at a disadvantage at the time
While not an Iracing circuit (yet) The new downtown Detroit street circuit will have IndyCars peeling off both right and left. This is because the pitlane very short but also extremely wide. Will be the first time a major series does this. Only other time I can think of is the "Gilligan's Island" pit road at Sears Point back in the day. But that was 2 separate pit lanes.
I know ALMS and IndyCar had both side pits at the Baltimore Street track. It wasn't half and half I think it was like only 3 pit stalls on one side and everyone else on the other.
@@maxb148 I know that was the case in 2011, I think they had it fixed for 12 and 13
My home track had a double sided pit road (one lane, both sides) and they had to run noncompetitive pit stops and couldn’t count caution laps. It was down the middle of the infield, you entered between 3 and 4 and exited between 1 and 2.
I love this channel, I love the humour and positive vibes, most high level iRacers are grumpy bastards, keep up the great work!
Thank you I appreciate it! iRacing should be fun
Love the video! My nomination is Oran Park North B configuration, just a very weird track and pitlane
I’ll keep that one in mind for future vids!
The assetto corsa mod for COTA east has the pit lane in the run-off on the last corner of this layout, the one before the hairpin
Only thing is the mod creator did not seperate pits, so if you go wide pit limiter engages
Still, if you just added a concrete wall there it make for a perfectly servicable pit lane
I’ve done hosted races on most of these tracks. They had about 40 cars for each race and drive throughs for getting over 12x so there was quite a few people struggling with tear pit roads
I need to start doing weekly meme race hosteds haha
@@DJYeeJay Yeah I’m in a group that does joke hosted races about once a month and you get some great races
The original Charlotte road would be my favourite for worst pitlane in iRacing. The track was always moderately popular, but the pit exited directly onto the very fast first corner.
Here's what happens if you do it wrong:
th-cam.com/video/FlYIqRIuS3s/w-d-xo.html
And here's how you are meant to do it:
th-cam.com/video/fC4Cytlu5zU/w-d-xo.html
And here's my instructional video on how to do it, which I needed for some league events I ran there with mid-race pitstops:
th-cam.com/video/scnYnTqO9Lk/w-d-xo.html
Oh geez hahaha
Might I suggest Silverstone 2008 Southern course pitroad. Last I knew you couldn't get on pitroad without getting a 1x offtrack and its a course that the Production car challenge used to race at a few years ago.
Easily my favorite iracing TH-cam guy. I like the Xfinity car over the Arca car, but still find a lot of this info useful.
Thank you I appreciate it!
That Mullenbachschlife pitlane has actually been used in real life for classic GT and Touring car races
Oh boy hahaha that’d be interesting to see irl
As a non-iRacer, I enjoyed this video anyway. Thank you for this well-thought-out video.
Yesss RBR North! Fun fact: when it went official in PCC last season, the fastest way to qualify was to take to the pits on the outlap for a longer run up the hill😂
Non-subject question.
Really like video quality of your videos.
What are the CPU/RAM/GPU specs on your system?
Also, what app are you using to screen record?
Thanks.
I have a pretty stout system but really struggle to get the quality of screen recording I am looking for.
Thanks!
1. AMD Ryzen 5600x, RTX 3080, 16GB RAM
2. Usually Nvidia Geforce but sometimes OBS when I use webcam/overlays
@DJ Yee-J
Thanks!
I must be doing something wrong. I've got a Ryzen 5 5600, 32GB RAM and a EVGA Geforce RTX 3060Ti and haven't been able to record the game with anything close to what you have.
Wow, new video already! You're on the grind man!
This one was relatively easy to make so I just banged it out last night
Honestly Bristol's dual pit lanes are nowhere near as bad as they were back in the day. Getting a backstretch pit stall was once a death sentence thanks to 2 rules. The first was that you didn't have to drive thru both pit lanes under caution, you just drove down whichever pit your box was on. The second was that the first cars allowed to pit were the cars that had front stretch pit stalls. In other words, if you had a back stretch pit box you would have to wait at pace car speed while all the front stretch drivers pitted and then you would come around to get your chance to pit. When the front stretch guys were done they could accelerate back up to rejoin behind the pace car and would effectively jump anyone with a back stretch pit.
That’s so dumb hahaha
Check out Legacy Silverstone Southern. The pit road and pit out aren't too bad, but the pit in? 90 degree left through a bit of tarmac barely wider than your car right on line for the entry to Stowe, OR.... a 1x over some very bumpy runoff. Either way, truly fantastic
Barcelona Club is also tied for first with an M shaped pit road, and Snetterton 100 isn't far off
The old Suzuka West pits were good too. Basically a reverse of the Legacy Charlotte Infield. Wall in the center, pit stalls left and right of it, merging just before the one lane pit out. Sadly that got patched out about a year ago
Rockingham Infield Short is possibly the slowest pit lane. 15mph limit
Thanks! I almost put rockingham on there but legacy Charlotte did the same thing and had double sided pits. Didn’t know about the others might need to do a part 2
Interesting that they did something for VIR Patriot, cause in Forza Motorsport you can't perform pitstops on that layout and therefore cannot run fuel and tire wear
i saw the title and knew daytona rally cross would be here but its not and then I remembered it didn't exist... the only reason I know this is because I jumped the start in a pro 2 lite race and got black flagged and had to go into pits. I challenge you to find pit road entry as I got disqualified for cutting the course and even after 10 mins of practice I couldn't find it... So fast repairs are useless here also haha
Didn't expect red bull ring to appear, aka the track 1.5h away from me.
Greetings from Austria
This guy should see the actual corona pitlane on the Nürburgring irl
They should add a McDonalds drive through for a pitlane
I want to see that Janky NH legends oval in an official series.
- Pitting in.
- This is ground control to Major Tom...
Good to see Red Bull Ring North on here. Crazy
Every time one of these videos comes out, I'm fascinated by how in detail this channel has made you understand the game. I assume in three or four years when you run out of game mechanics to talk about, you're going to start breaking down the binary coding. Or at least read through all of it on a charity stream. 😂😂
One day I’ll run out of ideas and get there hahaha
Gotta put Oxford in this list for the forking roads and the dirt mounds that send you into orbit
I completely forgot rip. It is spiritually in 3rd place I still think VIR patriot is dumber hahaha
I kinda forgot how Bristol worked in NASCAR Thunder 2004. I think it got mad if you tried to skip one side and straight for yours
Here's the thing with the Hell RX pit road. This is a rally cross track, and they don't pit at all during the real race. Plus there are only, at most, six cars ever on track racing at the same time.
Been a while since I watched real RX action though, so maybe that changed.
Hell RX road short is actually a full road course configuration in iracing. It’s very janky and never used, I actually covered it in a previous video. It’s a rally track for all intents and purposes, but it’s all tarmac so iracing designates it as road
Nah you right rallycross as a discipline remains unchanged and the dirt section being the pitlane is the normal circuit for the rx as well as the joker lap part at the first hairpin
I think there was an IndyCar street course (Detroit?) that had pits on left and right sides. I think they basically had a line down the middle that wasn't to be crossed, basically making it two parallel pit roads
I expected to see Oulton Park in this list, because there it is almost impossible to get in the first pit stall without using the reverse gear.
I've done a league race that required pit stops (multiple! we were using the RX cars and it turns out those bad boys can only go a few laps at a time...) at the Charlotte infield course. It was just as horrifying as one might expect. The people with the first and last stalls on the right hand side are particularly fucked since they have to take harder turns than anyone else.
Edit: also ran a league race on müllenbachschleife where I ended up pitting multiple times for fast repairs (the very cursed car class list included TCR, LMP1, and the Beetle Lite). That was also awful though TBH not really any worse than the corners you skip by taking the pit lane, especially with multiclass racing and cars like the LMP1 that simply cannot turn that sharply.
Sounds like a fun league to mess around on those tracks!!
You should take a look at Legacy Silverstone Southern layout, instead of taking Stowe, you have to take the tightest left entry ever off to the side of the corner as to not get a pit road penalty and the pit road is the runoff area between Stowe and Club
Lanier has a super cursed pit road, you enter off of turn 4, do a full lap on the pit road, then exit on turn 1. Just ads insult to injury after getting taken out in a street stock.
Idk how knockhill gets officials in any series. People smartly stay away from it and the participation is never high.
my favorite track right behind the nords. ^^
Hi DJ Yee J hope you having good day
I am! Wish Larson won though lol
Martinsville had dual pits, but they've converted the backstretch pit area into more of a garage area, and safety vehicle lane.
So did Rockingham (US). But I'm not going to include this.....
--Because it's currently not on any major racing series. (NASCAR, ARCA, IROC, SRX, etc)
-- And secondly, it hasn't been used in years prior to NASCAR's last race at Rockingham in 2006, or so.
Goto suzuka layout with the pit at the back straight. Sometimes you g de t assigned pit boxes you have to leave the circuit to get to them.
This actually looks like fun LOL
Just starting the video. Red bull ring with that smaller set up better be herw
It’s in a four way tie for first. Impressive 😂
Just realized. You are a musical artist name in the video game Surviving Mars
Didn't Martinsville used to have two pit lanes?
Not sure but seems possible
Are there enough dumb pit roads that you could do a part 2? Or better yet, can you rate every pit road in iRacing?
There probably is! And rating every pit road sounds like a charity stream idea with how long it’d take hahaha
I would be very rich, if I would get a dollar for every time he says pit road
Your German pronunciation was actually quite good, lol 😂👍
I may or may not be secretly taking notes for my own racing simulator, so I can make it better than iRacing.
Oh dude I’m waiting! First and most important thing is really good physics and FFB, which suck in iRacing!
The best on the market at the moment are the Rfactor2 physics, they should be at least as good as that because your game is 10 years newer, so basically they should be much better if you have the ambition to make a realistic game!
Oh real physics means also real tires, because the iRacing tires are like a thin layer of rubber, no real durability, way too slidy and absolutely no sidewall feel.
You should be able to race like in real life, which is on and sometimes a bit over the limit.
But over the limit is just not possible in iRacing because of its way to slidy physics.
@@rolux4853 I'm basically starting with the mechanics that are relatively simple to implement and prototyping with the Unity engine while I develop my own engine/framework, since that's basically the only engine I can afford to use to make my own games and it's the only one I know how to use.
> "Oh dude I’m waiting! First and most important thing is really good physics and FFB, which suck in iRacing!"
Finding any FFB tutorials for game developers is like finding a needle at the bottom of the ocean buried in a mile of sand. Guess what Unity does not support at all.
> "The best on the market at the moment are the Rfactor2 physics"
I'm a big fan of gMotor/isiMotor, but I cannot afford the license. I have no choice but to make my own engine, which has been a struggle to say the least.
> "Oh real physics means also real tires, because the iRacing tires are like a thin layer of rubber, no real durability, way too slidy and absolutely no sidewall feel."
The irony is that gMotor has the ability to simulate this with the much simpler tire model from rFactor 1.
> "You should be able to race like in real life, which is on and sometimes a bit over the limit."
Like in NASCAR SimRacing? Granted I think you can go too far over the limit in that game and still recover, but at least you can recover from it.
> "But over the limit is just not possible in iRacing because of its way to slidy physics."
So I've noticed.
@@TChapman500Gaming thank you very much for your detailed reply!
I really appreciate it!
I hope you’re project will succeed, it definitely sounds promising for a one man project!
As a german, I am sorry for the Nürburgring Grand Prix Strecke - Müllenbachschleife
Just wait til whenever they scan Berlin Raceway lol
You forgot the most ridiculous pitroad: knockhill rx. The entry is blocked by rocks so you have to tow to serve penalties. Its beyond stupidity.
Imagine if we had to use the dual pits from Darlington
Truly weird pitnroads...
Now i want to buy iracing
no one gonna talk abt how his revometer is upside down
Get the popcorn a ne DJ yee-j video just dropped
What's an arca farmer?
Dual pits at Southern National and south Boston
Southern National has dual pit roads like Bristol
Irwindale Inner has a really stupid pit road.
Honestly in light of all the stupid pit roads I missed I might do a part 2 lol
3:40 look, an american 70's or 80's action movie. Tires screaming on dirt.
American Engineering
Murica!!
real
Why do you only drive nascars?
Cause it’s funny lol
Nuremberg ring
Hickory pit exit sucks. Service black flags you 9 times outta 10
Dude this is 13 not 9
*ahem* It's pronounced Neer-boorg-ring. Despite the similarity in name to the city of Nuremberg (Nürnberg), the Nürburgring has nothing to do with Nuremberg.
The best I can do with german is sound it out in english and sound angry