@@reinsama2.09 My issue with anime on netflix. Is if I don't quickly press a button it going skip the opening,ending and preview. It annoying having to press a button so it dont. Then if a episode had a brief recap it will skip that and I gotta rewind. I refuse to skip any second of a episode
Ya, I don't like netflix either, both are terrible companies to be honest, full of propaganda, so which ever ones win we still lose. That being said, I will agree crunchyroll/sony is a bit worse. What I'm not a fan of is how the west through many of these companies are trying to stretch their tendrils into japan and try to bully them into compliance when it comes to censorship, and demanding they change their ways like they have some moral authority over their own entertainment products in true colonialist fashions. Some of these western localizers affiliated with these companies are also terrible, don't respect the fans, the medium or even the content creators and at times have been caught trying to deviate from what is actually being said in the source, in favor for their own political commentary. I just find it annoying, as you expect a certain level of professionalism with these translations but many of the times they just end up with garbage with these local dubs, and the liberties they take in translating the material or voicing the characters. Western influence in japan not really a good thing imho, and the more involved they are, the less authentic and the worse the product - I mean they already are ruining their own comics, and entertainment, and I would hate to see companies like sony , exert even more control (who had only recently been in talks of the acquisition of KADOKAWA CORPORATION [but only settled on some shares in the end which was the best case scenario in that situation but still not good for the medium])
As a Japanese person, I think Japan should properly invest in creating official websites for anime that cater to overseas viewers, including quality translations.
Kind of is given international laws and the differences in marketing to specific target audiences. The American audience is actually very different from the Japan audience, especially when it comes to topics and stories they want to see. The biggest and probably the more well known example is how well the villain arcs in MHA were received. Their arcs were well recieved by the American audience, but wasn't liked by the Japan audience. A lot of content was scrapped by the creator because of this (Japan is still were the majority of the money comes from afterall). What case I find particularly interesting is how Nier, a video game, actually came put with two versions of it's main character to appeal to the different audiences. There's also the fact both countries define a target audience in different ways. What is appropriate for a young, usually teen boy, Japan audience, is not going pass the same regulations for America, but the creators still want to target the same age group. This is where the censorship comes in. Anime companies that dub, translate for sub, or generally distribute Japanese anime have to do so in accordance to a contract that outlines rules and regulations on what they can or cannot do with the source material.
@@noctisthedevious Don't get me started on NieR, what a cck up that was. Still annoys me when NieR Replicant, i.e. the CANON one, was finally officially released to the West, people whined and demanded Father NieR still. Showing nothing has really changed. Even after NieR Automata. That being said, The Big 3 are all led by teenagers and they dominated the world. Same for Demon Slayer. By Japan being the majority of the money coming into animanga, do you mean purely manga sales or overall? "Otaku" culture in America can't be scoffed at, Anime Expo alone houses hundreds of thousands of consumers, that's a lot of revenue. I talked to some people there and even just regular dudes who looked like jocks or frat boys were spending hundreds to thousands on merchandise/signatures. All Japan would need to do is give them official means to support the series and they'll see massive capita. The problem is that Japan is too shortsighted. Instead of overseeing this themselves, putting their boots on the ground, they divert this process to Western companies/branches and keep a hands-off approach. Worst mistake as those branches butcher the product, taint the brand, and steal profit. Look at Sony and Crunchyroll. Japan is still fair to allergic to interacting with the world outside of the island, and that's stagnating the economy/culture. Though, I can't blame them, now is one of the worst times due to the social and political climate in the West
@@jase276Isn’t Sony Japanese? I think it’s mainly a logistics/cost vs benefit issue. It’s easier and more cost-effective for Japanese animation studios to license their anime to companies that already have a foothold on the foreign market than for them to do it themselves. They still get revenue but they don’t have to deal with translating and dubbing, as well as research and marketing. Not all anime that worked in Japan is a sure hit in the foreign market so I think the studios are playing it smart.
While it is nice to hear that Crunchyroll with their trash policies is failing, it ain't so pleasant that Netflix is gaining influence on Anime. The idea they potentially can become a monopoly on anime streaming one day is really depressing. One would think the other services like Peacock, Max or Disney+ would try to compete for licenses yet everyone is more focused on pushing live sports.
I may not be aware of the fandom's distain for them, but why not turn to Sentai Filmwork/HiDive? That is the last remaining dedicated streaming and Blu-Ray producing anime provider out there. They are super cheap too! Their library has been shrinking due to lack of funds but they have been providing various shows like the latest "magic 'grills'" and whatnot that CR wont carry and being unsensored. Yes, I know what I wrote there. But seriously, why not them if the other is so despised? With enough subs and DVD purchases, they could galvanize a disgruntle fandom to them.
And that's a clear mistake, no matter how successful the Olympics were, the truth is that the average age for sports viewers keep on getting higher. Long term betting of sports is a losing proposition.
Let Netflix have the monopoly on anime. I’m not trying to subscribe to 10 different services to watch one anime I would rather sail the high seas than do that
Crunchyroll USED to be a good company with a good reputation but then everything that happened with High Guardian Spice completely destroyed whatever good will they had. They built up for years says that any money that came from subscriptions went back to Japan, and its animators then they did that, and it really pissed a lot of people off at the time myself included.
Being acquired by an ESG corporation might as well be the first death knell of a company. The moment they get bought you might as well start the 5-10 year countdown and just wait to see how they'll shoot themselves in the foot, piss off their customer base, etc before they decline into irrelevance. RIP Rooster Teeth
This is the first time in my 29 years of life i have ever seen "death knell" written this whole time I've thought it was nail... 🫣 Thanks for teaching me something new
@@LuigiTheMetal64 True, but it is still it's own entity. There is no higher authority in the form of a controlling parent company to force it to cancel the Dave Chappelle specials for instance. The "workers" who protested got fired. Profit, rather than ideology, is still the prime motivator of business decisions (for good or ill).
@@GabeSweetMantrue. Yes, they do keep Netflixing shows with some really dumb decisions, but they also don't just roll over when there's money to be made. There are some worrying symptoms, but there is a chance that the patient can recover.
*You know the Old Literature Phrase?* “An enemy of my enemy is my ally”. *Netflix is terrible, but it’s not Crunchy Roll. Crunchy Roll is Majority Hated in Japan* 🇯🇵
@@RinaRetro yes buth netflix hase gotten better this jear 1 optimisanal sub titels 2 axtely giving good shows a good season 2 voor axemple squid game 3 returning good old shows like adventure time and the old scooby doo
@sharkio93and having NGE and the movies as well as Slam Dunk and other older anime like Great Teacher Onizuka, and such good new anime to like Saiki K and Blue Box
Yes the Censorship is the biggest problem. Most Anime is not for children think about it, also them pushing for just one (Monopoly) is bad for everyone involved
@@josephschultzEh, most is for kids or teens so that’s not that convincing an argument. Though there’s certainly a problem to be had there in what they’ve done with stuff for kids in the past. Like when Saban and Netflix turned Smile and Doki Doki Pretty Cure into Glitter Force. The shows were already for a young audience, but they still got butchered. Names changed because kids apparently can’t handle foreign characters. Episodes cut because they were just too Japanese. Or were about dealing with the grief of a loved one who had died and Netflix didn’t think kids could handle a message aimed at them. It’s not that they treat everything as being for kids. It’s that they can’t handle even the stuff that was, much less an older audience.
Sounds like Netflix is giving Crunchyroll a taste of reality and defeat making it realize that it needs to stay ahead of Netflix. Talk about a wake up call boss.
I'd rather pay for Crunchyroll over Netflix for many different reasons but if Netflix is all that's left then I must return to the high seas and put my skull hat on again.
yeah im not sure what people complain about..8 dollars and a ton of shows..with no ads..also netflix has a good history of dumping millions into shows and it just being mediocre or straight crap..
@@Spazzfrom.1989 crunchyroll has way more anime. Where Netflix its mostly the anime that everyone even non anime fans watch. Where most of what they got I have Zero interest in. I'm a huge anime fan and pretty much only watch anime. The anime I'm interested in Netflix doesn't ever get.
@@WindUpTsukumo i really liked the dota and castlevania series..but i was suprised to find out that they ended at 4 a 3 seasons..dota felt like it was just barely getting into the climax and its larger problems..and castlevania seemed like there was quite a few people/issues that werent yet fully resolved yet..but yet they make a new castlevania..makes me wonder if they even know what theyre doing..loving the dungeon show tho..that one suprised me..dad pays for the netflix though..i wouldnt pay 20 a month for netflix..other than a few korean shows and indie films..most of the N originals arent quite there
I'll never forgive them for that. I actually bought multiple things and supported the anime industry through that place. I haven't bothered looking into any other website
It makes me very sad. I loved Rightstufanime. If I had the money I would've bought them before sony/crunchyroll and kept it running as it was for 36 years.
As someone who pretty much exclusively watches anime and doesnt watch any western TV or film, Crunchyroll is still the better option for me due to their larger library of anime. Netflix subscriptions cost more and there is less stuff on there that I want to watch. I imagine Netflix is winning over casual anime fans who also watch lots of other film/TV shows. It won't win me over until they either have lower prices or if their anime library significantly increases. The only way that thst probably happens is the collapse of Crunchyroll. If Crunchyroll really does die off in a few years, I'll be intetested to see what other platforms pick up their library. Honestly, whilst Crunchyroll has its problems , I have to say that the app/website itself is far more functional than it once was in years gone by. As a regular user, I'm ok with Crunchyroll for now, but I definitely understand the msny issues the company has.
I have netflix anime on much more than Crunchy, but that’s because I just have anime that I’ve already seen running in the background while I’m reading manga, but most of the anime that I actually watch is on Crunchy. But I do wish they had a TV app, it’s so much easier to watch Netflix, at the moment I have to use Airplay on my iPad to link it to my TV to watch episodes, and it has a bug for the last few months where the next episode won’t play, I have to go to my iPad and click on the next episode in order for it to play.
You sweet summer child... Nobody's picking up CR's library once it dies. When they get the license to release an anime they always make sure to get an exclusivity agreement (probably for 10 years if I had to guess the undisclosed duration) meaning nobody else is legally allowed to translate or release that anime, even though CR in no way owns or created it. CR will die, but some random private equity firm will buy it for IP trolling, as always happens. Then CR will no longer stream anime, but still holds the exclusive rights to do so. "It's my IP to sit on and do nothing with!!!"
Even CR's library is pretty limited if you like watching older anime. It's good for new stuff coming out, otherwise the seven seas is my preffered solution as someone who has paid both for Netflix and CR in the past.
would be great if one could search by number of episodes. i dont wanna find a new anime every time im gonna watch because of 12-24 episode 1season animes that i have to settle for since everything has multiple genre tags. same problem netflix library has everything there has like 10tags so doesnt matter what genre you choose.
the thing is Netflix was always bound to succeed as the og streaming service now you can watch anime and normal shows and movies without having to have another subscription where i live for instance country price for Netflix max plan is about 5k naira (1600 naira=1 dollar) Crunchyroll roll base is 4k naira and now Crunchyroll been fucking up throughout the entire year so Netflix was bound to be on top
Netflix has source-censored content. The Ranma 1/2 remake already failed at making anime fans Netflix subscribers. Anime fans watch anime, not Netflix.
Netflix also sometimes offers Japanese subtitles with Japanese voices, so I can practice listening and reading at the same time. Crunchyroll never has that.
Netflix is still a bad service. Even if the content is greater than 'Stairway to Heaven' by Led Zeppelin, you will be able to get the content on DVD. Sailor Moon Eternal still does not have a US disc release.
We still have the rumor that Crunchyroll was going to increase subscription prices by 15-35% (?). If they do that, they're going to lose a lot of fans and pirate sites will become more popular again when they've been trying to control the pirate websites. It's interesting to watch all these streaming services joining the war for anime, however its just ruining the viewers because we have to be subscribed to multiple sponsors that take certain titles. It's frustrating. It's crazy how we're at this time in the Anime Community. Japan just needs to own their own anime streaming service (which i heard they have one) , need to welcome us westerns, please
I would hate to pay the Netflix subscription price if the only thing I watch is anime. There is nothing else on there that I want so I would be paying more for the same content as Crunchyroll. That would suck.
5:40, I mean, we saw 7% of their viewers were coming for anime. adjust the subscriber numbers and that’s 16m for Netflix. it still essentially is just double crunchyroll’s money lol
If only HiDive/Sentai Filmworks could capitalize on the situation and offer more compeition, since they are more of a dedicated avenue for anime. But they have no money and are really cheap by comparison. Seriously, why not start backing them if the other is so despised? With enough subs and DVD purchases, they could galvanize a disgruntle fandom to their services and give us what we want. They are trying to do that right now. And, if push comes to shove, Sony owns or is partnered with Columbia Pictures so they could easily expand Crunchyroll's library to include non-anime films and craft their own Netflix and use CR as its foundation.
Hidive needs to fix its app for smart TVs. Searching for series on Hidive is awful. It will link you to random, unordered episodes of a series rather than take you to the series itself. Just awful.
They need to have more than you know just a couple of new shows every season for high dive to really take off. They usually have one show that you need to watch and they might have some other shows but the the quality and the consistency hasn't quite been there the types of things to expect from season to season are unpredictable on high dive they do have some good backlog titles though
@@Veretax I subscribe to them. Every few months they surrender another older anime's streaming rights to the competition. While they maintain the physical media rights, as they do reprints often, HiDive loses a number of shows. Sadly. The only thing I can suggest additional is buy stock from their parent company to support the studio so they have more money to play with. If they can break out of this runt, I'm sure they can overtake CR.
I'm down for people doing whatever that makes them happy you know? So long as you ain't hurting no one it is what it is. Life is too short. We can go at any time. At the end of the day I just want people to be happy. That guy that married Hatsune Miku? I'm happy for him. If that chick legitimately married a cardboard cutout I'm happy for her. It is what it is lol.
It’s kind of funny how some people are acting like Netflix will be a better alternative when they have their own issues too, I mean they got called out by a bunch of anime producers a while back because they don’t pay royalties even if an anime becomes successful on their platform. I think both Netflix and CR suck but at least CR does pay royalties for the shows they acquire.
I was in the Philipines for 6 weeks and netflix unlimited is only 300 pesos and they have almost every anime that's on crunchyroll that I watch. Also with weekly updates. I was like WTF but I caught up on much anime.
Not sure if I’m a fan of Netflix being the next anime service since they tend to take ages to get every season of an anime on their site and then they very consistently remove shows for reasons I don’t understand.
I’ve been Netflix is starting to learn from their mistakes, especially where anime is concerned since they’ve had some of the biggest anime flops whether it’s live action or animated in recent years and because they’re one of the bigger companies learning from there failures they are starting to build an understanding of how to navigate through the industry. Anyone can sit here and say Netflix is trash or that I’m wrong but a company as big as them it’s gonna take some time for communication and wording to go through the different channels
Yea, Netflix is quite slow in picking up popular shows. But I understand since even when an anime is popular in Japan, it doesn’t mean it will also be in other parts of the world. Plus, there are licensing issues to consider.
Doesn't Netflix have a poor track record when it comes to producing original content, adaptations (live action one piece, and avatar being the only exceptions that i know of), and getting rid of popular shows and movies.
They do. Despite removing Glitter Force now that Pretty Cure is more available under the Pretty Cure name to anime fans, viewers like myself are still not subscribing to Netflix.
They had the track record for poor original anime shows but it has been changing for quite some time with Cyberpunk edgerunners, Dungeon Mishi, Pluto, just to name a few.. they have been on a great track recently with anime shows.
@@knaditya8228 cyber punk was mediocre and so was pluto with its let me tell you what the point is in the final 5 mins..dungeon meshi is really good though..id rewatch dungeon..i got no desire for edge runners..or the other
@@RocSandy Crunchyroll is too big to fail, at most they’ll become an obscure anime source but I doubt they’ll be that braindead to not change their ways before it gets to that point
Censoring the Ranma 1/2 remake at the source is progress? Nice try. Even I still boycotted Netflix since December 2015. I don't care if the Glitter Force series is no longer available.
I can’t believe that I’m being “that guy” but I don’t think we can fairly compare Crunchyroll to Netflix or Hulu/Disney when most “normies” and their mom have had Netflix and Hulu/Disney at one point whereas Crunchyroll is more “niche” comparatively.
SInce anime is 7% of Netflixes traffic and Netflix has 230 million people that means the equivalent of 16.1 million people are watching anime on Netflix so if that estimation is true than Netflix is making almost double with almost the same amount of people watching anime as Crnchyroll
I remember a time when Netflix had only a few anime on their platform. Although crunchyroll is many kinds of awful, I don't want them to disappear completely like VRV or Funimation or Roosterteeth
I think the doubling is more significant than it might seem at first glance. The article says anime is 6.8% of Netflix viewer demand, so if you take that to mean that's the percentage of Netflix subscribers that watch anime, and they have 230M subs, that works out to around 15.6M subs watching anime on Netflix. That's on par with Crunchyroll's 15M subs which one assumes are ALL anime watchers (otherwise why subscribe?). In that light, Netflix doubled revenue on essentially the same number of anime watchers.
Netflix is £10.99 a month Or £17.99 if you want 4k. CR is £4.99 a month. With roughly the same size audience of 15mil for anime its easy to see how the numbers are obtained.
@@LionheartTM That got me thinking a bit more - the article says Netflix "earned about $2.07B from anime". I'm wondering how that's calculated (amount attributable to anime vs non-anime content). Also is 6.8% the percentage of subs that watched ANY anime at all? It actually says it's 6.8% of viewer demand so my initial assumption that meant 6.8% of the total subscribers may be (frankly probably is) wrong. Maybe it's 6.8% of the time spent streaming all content? Which makes it harder to compare. So I'm obviously overthinking this, and the more I (over)think it, the more questions I have. I feel like I do that with a LOT of news stories these days. Like there's always some information missing.
what made Crunchyroll stand out was the comment section. it was a place to come together and discuss about episodes, blog aricles. Now it's just a Video streaming platform, and I can do streaming on Jellyfin.
I used crunchyroll on firestick and they got rid of the row for just added. Now I have to go to browse to see what dropped today. Rows should be customizable and the over all design for crunchyroll needs an overhaul because it’s hard to find classic stuff. Also they don’t have dub for shows that have dub on other services. Competition is good. Crunchyroll needs to change. This will motivate them, not shut them down.
I don’t know if this factors into the amount Netflix makes off of anime but they have successful shows like arcane, blue eyed samurai and castlevania to name a few that are western animation shows that get lumped into their numbers but aren’t anime. Competition is needed in the hopes that crunchyroll can get their act together. I know most people here in the comments along with chibi can’t stand crunchyroll but I’m rooting for them because Netflix is too expensive and so is Hulu for that matter. I’ve just about given up hope for Hidive because they can’t even get their app right let alone everything else they fumble like losing the rights to so many good shows. In my perfect world, crunchyroll and Hidive would be our best options because both combined is less money than Netflix or Hulu. So please get your shit together Sony and AMC.
This was the expected results for the company that was convinced that people wanted "high guardian spice" that showed that the people in charge had no idea what they were operating.
I would not want to undersell the damage that Crunchyroll in Sony continue to do to themselves. However I am not confident that these Netflix numbers and the Crunchyroll numbers are actually an Apples to Apples comparison and the reason why I say that is how does Netflix figure out what they made on anime only and their subscription covers pretty much everything on their platform maybe there's a way to get viewing information and get percentages or something but I just have a hard time believing that Netflix is necessarily tracking things quite that way
The problem is also that crunchyrolls contract with the companies that want their animes to be stream on their streaming service is outdated, it's s very likely Netflix probably charged more for the animes to be streamed on their streaming services. Crunchyroll will have to renegotiate pricing for their contracts if they want to survive. Damn it we think alike I wasn't fully listening to the video but you mentioned it lol 😅
My friends and i were watching Dan Da Dan and Daima together, we had to watch Daima on crunchyroll cuz they were the only ones that had it, but on our tv crunchyroll is constantly buffering and skipping ahead 10 seconds, so wed switch to netflix for Dan da Dan. I dont know if thats just an us situation with our tv, but they literally sent our business to netflix with how bad the service was.
And CR's actual site and streaming service is just plain terrible, forgetting all the other problems and issues Sony has. I want to pay for my anime, but right now they only decent way to do that would require me to learn Japanese and buy the Japan Blurays.😢
I don't know how well a rebrand would go. That strategy might've worked like a decade and a half ago, but it's just too easy for the controversy to follow the entire companies and corporate family trees now.
Me: *causally hating both of them* I'm glad at least Crunchyroll is getting what they had coming to them but it is sad to see that the ONLY U.S Anime streaming service will be gone.
Despite how netflix is one week late of anime episode and how horrible their production is considering the ceo think we the customers are extremely dumb and have to remind where the episode is in and thinking making some sort of standard guideline for anything made in netflix. It is the lesser evil compared to crunchyroll indefinitely.
@@ronel7836 as long as they know to NOT make a deal with them on production…….. unless your vigilant like Oda….. well we have to see how season 2 will be.
We need competition but can't keep feeding one place. In the end that place eventually becomes the new villain. Reminds me of the South Park episode with Wallmart, where they destroy it in the end. They then continue shopping at a local market which grows and grows until that place eventually gets destroyed by them as well. In the end Randy says to go shop at another local market and we know the cycle will repeat.
I had never been so jealous of a car that cardboard box before reading my life. I want that to be that cardboard box character. Why must it be him? Why not me?
yeah not only the comment section removal + changing dialogue in subtitles, but whenever a big show drops an episode, the entire CR site goes down, its so dumb, if they cant handle the load of viewers, dont bother getting bigger shows, and if they cant get big shows, how can they claim to be the biggest site for anime? id prefer sites like hidive to break the barrier an pull things away from CR and actually have a bigger library of content (sure CR has a big library, but quite a few they only have certain seasons of a show, not every season, and its stupid to have to go to different platforms to watch all seasons of 1 series)
The anime library on Netflix is still too small to truly dethrone CR. Even if they took every giant IP, there are many people who watch old, smaller or less known shows, and right now there is no other legal/reliable sorurce for that. I certainly hope Netflix continues to expand their selection with less mainstream titles, but I also hopes they stop their policy of just cutting anything not-absolute-best-seller right in the middle. They going for Dorohedoro season 2 is a really good signal, IMO.
One thing I noticed lately is that crunchyroll doesn't have some of the english dubs they used to have when they had both subs and dubs for popular anime now they only have the subs
There's also the fact that Crunchyroll can work alongside other companies for projects. Let's not forget that for Dragon Ball Z Kai and Super, while Funimation had the dubbing rights, Adult Swim had the exclusive airing/streaming rights for a long time. They also have an advantage in that they have Sony as a parent, which owns Aniplex, giving them almost exclusive rights to streaming and dubbing their works.
5:27 If you do 6.8% out of 230 mil it comes out to around 15.6 mil comparable to the crunchyroll's 15 mil total of only anime watchers so considering that netflix anime subscribers pay almost double (15.5/month) the crunchyroll's subscribers(8/month) they just assume it's simply double, the fact that they have access to other things and don't use them should be taken into consideration, but I get how they could consider it earning double from anime shows in comparison. Also on that note, I think that there is a generally set number of people willing to spend money to watch anime on the official streaming sites and regardless if it's 8$ or 16$, so a lot of them do overlap so the two platforms aren't eating each other's customers because they don't have the same shows offered. Their goal now is to convert more non paying anime watchers to their platform and keep them which both platforms struggle with rn, witch can only be done if they drastically increase the frequency of the ultra high quality shows they get. Now the only question is if the people in charge of the two platforms realize this or not.
Interesting. I speak Japanese so I always watch anime on netflix because crunchyroll doesn't work in Japan and doesn't have Japanese subtitles. So I reckon there's a ton of revenue coming into Netflix from Japanese viewers as well.
Netflix may be specialized and well funded but it’s still strange for them to beat Sony and crunchyroll in their home turf. Anime and games are the next Hollywood movie gold mine so Sony really should have been working on better synergy between PSN, Sony pictures, Sony animation, crunchy role anime streaming and the Japanese anime and manga market. This stuff seems like a no brainer to me. They even have the headset they can make media for
Main thing is Netflix's offers more than just anime. If someone is tight on money it makes sense to cut down on services. With Netflix offing other show's and movies than just anime I would choose the one that offers me more. Especially if the monthly subscriptions are close in price. I think economy is a factor as well. Netflix just offers more then Crunchyroll in general.
All Netflix needs to do for me is have a comment section under every episode and I'll leave Crunchyroll. Its been about 7 years since I started paying for anime and the only reason was cause of the community but ofc they had to take that one good thing away from us.
Sh💩 translations, high cost membership that keeps going up for some reason, and a team that only cares about money over truth. I wish we had another website to stream stuff like re zero or mushoku tensei than to rely in this BS 1:11
Crunchroll is a woke pile of trash on fire... Sadly it has almost all stuff i already watched in anime side and for sure i will lost the future of some really good shows
6.8% (viewer demand) of 230million subscribers is 15.64million, so roughly the same viewer count since Crunchyroll is 100% anime demand of it's 15million, I'd say they did pretty good to almost double the revenue with roughly the same amount of anime fans, unless I'm looking at that totally wrong.
Are you sure about that ? I mean I see the name Parrot Analytics and that raises a bunch of red flags for me. They were already in some controversy in the past for basing their "estimates" on internet traffic about something based on the assumption that "all publicity is good publicity". I do not remember now what that is, but it was some failed show. They reported it as being the market leader or something while it under performed financially and the true viewing numbers were terrible. So whenever I see that company as the source of any market claim I tend to not trust it. Anyway, just comparing MY experience with Netflix vs Crunchyroll (I am NOT from North America), Netflix does not have anything better. There are some exclusives but those are very few. The main difference is the public knowledge of both. You have to specifically look for anime streaming to find Crunchyroll. You have Netflix plastered all over the internet. So yeah, from that perspective, Netflix should be leading.
It's nice that Netflix is competing for anime viewers, but we should be cautious. Let's hope they don't start censoring their content library to increase their profits 🤞🏼
Not saying that this is totally untrue, but I have doubts about how accurate these numbers are. My 5 minutes sleuthing says that these numbers came from an analytics company and as far as I know, there aren’t any reliable analytics company for pure internet based services. Netflix is super secretive about both their users and their shows data. The only people with access to these data is basically Netflix themselves, so unless Netflix quotes a number on how much revenue anime makes them, I wouldn’t trust anything else. Every other analytics firm out there are merely making guesses. Some guesses are better than others, but as we’ve seen with election polling numbers, even companies claiming amazing methods can be way off. I’ve been referring to Netflix till now, but I assume Crunchyroll is the same about their data. If their leadership has any brain cells left, they should realize what a goldmine these data is and make decisions based on that. For now, I wouldn’t worry about Crunchyroll’s future (not that I love it), but I still find Crunchyroll’s style of editing the video to translate Japanese text to English an amazing feature. Whoever inherits Crunchyroll should keep that feature
Companies need to learn that making your company the same as your competitor removes your edge and makes you less preferable vs them and thus makes it easier for people to switch AWAY just as much as TO your service. If your users don't like the other tool and you make yours MORE like that tool, you're going to alienate users.
If anything I would love to see more competitors in offering anime to the world. Japan really needs to fix its anime industry problems before they could even consider tackling piracy
Crunchyroll doesent even promote dragon ball daima because its not a a exclusive. Thats why the deserve this. Sony owns Crunchyr0ll and they dont care about dragon ball daima and They just give anime of the year to the one they have. They deserve it.
There is a ceiling for anime content. These corporations don’t understand that the line can only go up but so much, theres is only but so many people willing to pay to stream Anime.
I just use a VPN and get the majority of Anime on netflix now, there are only a few Animes you cant find on Netflix while using a VPN. Crunchy just died for me when they removed the comment section
I am also pretty sure they are crushing earnings because Netflix has japanese subtitles and crunchyroll doesn't For japanese learners this is a big plus. I use it a lot for sentence mining.
Crunchyroll still has greater value for me. I’m one of those guys who has an Apple Vision Pro, and little Crunchyroll has an outstanding native Vision Pro app. Netflix might be making all the revenue, but they certainly won’t spend any of it making their customers happy, instead just sort of taking out their frustrations with Apple on mutual customers. So I’m going to give credit to Crunchyroll for that.
Taking comments off Crunchyroll was a massive mistake.
For sure.
Using the subscriber money to make _High Guardian Spice_ and _Ex-Arm_ is Crunchyroll's biggest mistake.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 You gotta ask yourself why did it thought they were good ideas?
Didn’t know they had, but that’s more a reflection of how long ago I left their service
Netflix removed the comments section too.
A guy marrying a fictional girl. A woman marrying a fictional guy. The Balance.
Equally creepy because it is failing to separate fantasy from reality. Yes, I am saying a woman marrying Eddie from Iron Maiden is creepy.
No wonder why the population is in decline.
Nothing creepy about it. Strange? Maybe. @@LuigiTheMetal64
Based 100%
@@LuigiTheMetal64Nothing creepy about it. Strange? Sure.
If Netflix is doing something right you know it's over for you
Not to mention it's a wake up call for Crunchyroll to better itself and stay ahead in the world of anime streaming services.
im happy i only have netflix cuse my parents watch it every day (dont now how they do it) buth i can fainilie in joy me some anime
Over for Crunchyroll? They'll be fine.
@@reinsama2.09 My issue with anime on netflix. Is if I don't quickly press a button it going skip the opening,ending and preview. It annoying having to press a button so it dont. Then if a episode had a brief recap it will skip that and I gotta rewind. I refuse to skip any second of a episode
Ya, I don't like netflix either, both are terrible companies to be honest, full of propaganda, so which ever ones win we still lose. That being said, I will agree crunchyroll/sony is a bit worse. What I'm not a fan of is how the west through many of these companies are trying to stretch their tendrils into japan and try to bully them into compliance when it comes to censorship, and demanding they change their ways like they have some moral authority over their own entertainment products in true colonialist fashions. Some of these western localizers affiliated with these companies are also terrible, don't respect the fans, the medium or even the content creators and at times have been caught trying to deviate from what is actually being said in the source, in favor for their own political commentary. I just find it annoying, as you expect a certain level of professionalism with these translations but many of the times they just end up with garbage with these local dubs, and the liberties they take in translating the material or voicing the characters. Western influence in japan not really a good thing imho, and the more involved they are, the less authentic and the worse the product - I mean they already are ruining their own comics, and entertainment, and I would hate to see companies like sony , exert even more control (who had only recently been in talks of the acquisition of KADOKAWA CORPORATION [but only settled on some shares in the end which was the best case scenario in that situation but still not good for the medium])
As a Japanese person, I think Japan should properly invest in creating official websites for anime that cater to overseas viewers, including quality translations.
Also, the dubbing
Yes to all of this.
Now there is more than one way to view it: Ideal, Realist or another manner I need to remeber.
Yup!
Agreed and hopefully the subtitles and dub will completely stay true to the original manga/anime script.
Make it illegal to license Japanese IP to foreign companies.
I want a legitimate, good anime streaming service that doesn't censor and faithfully translates into English. I feel like that's not a big ask.
Japan needs thier own streaming site for every thing. Manga anime hentai basically take control over everything
Kind of is given international laws and the differences in marketing to specific target audiences. The American audience is actually very different from the Japan audience, especially when it comes to topics and stories they want to see. The biggest and probably the more well known example is how well the villain arcs in MHA were received. Their arcs were well recieved by the American audience, but wasn't liked by the Japan audience. A lot of content was scrapped by the creator because of this (Japan is still were the majority of the money comes from afterall).
What case I find particularly interesting is how Nier, a video game, actually came put with two versions of it's main character to appeal to the different audiences.
There's also the fact both countries define a target audience in different ways. What is appropriate for a young, usually teen boy, Japan audience, is not going pass the same regulations for America, but the creators still want to target the same age group. This is where the censorship comes in. Anime companies that dub, translate for sub, or generally distribute Japanese anime have to do so in accordance to a contract that outlines rules and regulations on what they can or cannot do with the source material.
@@noctisthedevious Don't get me started on NieR, what a cck up that was. Still annoys me when NieR Replicant, i.e. the CANON one, was finally officially released to the West, people whined and demanded Father NieR still. Showing nothing has really changed. Even after NieR Automata. That being said, The Big 3 are all led by teenagers and they dominated the world. Same for Demon Slayer.
By Japan being the majority of the money coming into animanga, do you mean purely manga sales or overall? "Otaku" culture in America can't be scoffed at, Anime Expo alone houses hundreds of thousands of consumers, that's a lot of revenue. I talked to some people there and even just regular dudes who looked like jocks or frat boys were spending hundreds to thousands on merchandise/signatures. All Japan would need to do is give them official means to support the series and they'll see massive capita. The problem is that Japan is too shortsighted. Instead of overseeing this themselves, putting their boots on the ground, they divert this process to Western companies/branches and keep a hands-off approach. Worst mistake as those branches butcher the product, taint the brand, and steal profit. Look at Sony and Crunchyroll.
Japan is still fair to allergic to interacting with the world outside of the island, and that's stagnating the economy/culture. Though, I can't blame them, now is one of the worst times due to the social and political climate in the West
@@jase276Isn’t Sony Japanese? I think it’s mainly a logistics/cost vs benefit issue. It’s easier and more cost-effective for Japanese animation studios to license their anime to companies that already have a foothold on the foreign market than for them to do it themselves. They still get revenue but they don’t have to deal with translating and dubbing, as well as research and marketing. Not all anime that worked in Japan is a sure hit in the foreign market so I think the studios are playing it smart.
While it is nice to hear that Crunchyroll with their trash policies is failing, it ain't so pleasant that Netflix is gaining influence on Anime. The idea they potentially can become a monopoly on anime streaming one day is really depressing. One would think the other services like Peacock, Max or Disney+ would try to compete for licenses yet everyone is more focused on pushing live sports.
I may not be aware of the fandom's distain for them, but why not turn to Sentai Filmwork/HiDive? That is the last remaining dedicated streaming and Blu-Ray producing anime provider out there. They are super cheap too!
Their library has been shrinking due to lack of funds but they have been providing various shows like the latest "magic 'grills'" and whatnot that CR wont carry and being unsensored. Yes, I know what I wrote there.
But seriously, why not them if the other is so despised? With enough subs and DVD purchases, they could galvanize a disgruntle fandom to them.
And that's a clear mistake, no matter how successful the Olympics were, the truth is that the average age for sports viewers keep on getting higher. Long term betting of sports is a losing proposition.
Let Netflix have the monopoly on anime. I’m not trying to subscribe to 10 different services to watch one anime I would rather sail the high seas than do that
Netflix won’t become a monopoly In anime becuse anime like highschool would scare tf off
Hopefully what happens is Crunchyroll improves due to this competition.
Crunchyroll USED to be a good company with a good reputation but then everything that happened with High Guardian Spice completely destroyed whatever good will they had. They built up for years says that any money that came from subscriptions went back to Japan, and its animators then they did that, and it really pissed a lot of people off at the time myself included.
Netflix also sucks like the Ranma 1/2 remake being made for Netflix, rather than being made for Japan.
The down fall of crunchyroll headquarters went from Japan to Commyfornia.
Crunchyroll was originally an anime piracy website
@@LuigiTheMetal64 buth we goth both blue box and dandadan
@@LuigiTheMetal64the ranma remake itself is kinda mid the og was better
Crunchyroll needs to bring back the comments section
Some employee probably sent a letter to their head that Crunchyroll doesn't have a safe space for them xD
And a reasonable price
Legit question: people used the comment section a lot?
It was a lot of fun to read everyone’s thoughts after watching an episode. I honestly do miss the comments section.
@LordrockmanReturns Yes. Depending on the popularity of series.
Being acquired by an ESG corporation might as well be the first death knell of a company.
The moment they get bought you might as well start the 5-10 year countdown and just wait to see how they'll shoot themselves in the foot, piss off their customer base, etc before they decline into irrelevance.
RIP Rooster Teeth
No disagreement. 50+ year old otaku. Seen this happen with radio stations, comics, local stores, and more.
Netflix are also funded with ESG/DEI. That has been happening since December 2015 where Pretty Cure almost got killed under Glitter Force.
This is the first time in my 29 years of life i have ever seen "death knell" written this whole time I've thought it was nail... 🫣
Thanks for teaching me something new
@@LuigiTheMetal64 True, but it is still it's own entity. There is no higher authority in the form of a controlling parent company to force it to cancel the Dave Chappelle specials for instance.
The "workers" who protested got fired. Profit, rather than ideology, is still the prime motivator of business decisions (for good or ill).
@@GabeSweetMantrue.
Yes, they do keep Netflixing shows with some really dumb decisions, but they also don't just roll over when there's money to be made.
There are some worrying symptoms, but there is a chance that the patient can recover.
*You know the Old Literature Phrase?* “An enemy of my enemy is my ally”.
*Netflix is terrible, but it’s not Crunchy Roll. Crunchy Roll is Majority Hated in Japan* 🇯🇵
netflix is not that bad come on it hase a few good shows once in i wail still better than disney plus tho
@sharkio93 Too bad all the good shows often get canceled
@@RinaRetro yes buth netflix hase gotten better this jear
1 optimisanal sub titels
2 axtely giving good shows a good season 2 voor axemple squid game
3 returning good old shows like adventure time and the old scooby doo
@sharkio93and having NGE and the movies as well as Slam Dunk and other older anime like Great Teacher Onizuka, and such good new anime to like Saiki K and Blue Box
@@gurshaundhesi8086 no any good animes on netflix cuse im tho scared tho pirad anime and im a teen ager so i cant ovort hellroll
Netflix censors anime just like Crunchyroll does, them having more influence in anime is not good news at all for anime fans
Yes the Censorship is the biggest problem. Most Anime is not for children think about it, also them pushing for just one (Monopoly) is bad for everyone involved
@@josephschultzEh, most is for kids or teens so that’s not that convincing an argument. Though there’s certainly a problem to be had there in what they’ve done with stuff for kids in the past. Like when Saban and Netflix turned Smile and Doki Doki Pretty Cure into Glitter Force. The shows were already for a young audience, but they still got butchered. Names changed because kids apparently can’t handle foreign characters. Episodes cut because they were just too Japanese. Or were about dealing with the grief of a loved one who had died and Netflix didn’t think kids could handle a message aimed at them.
It’s not that they treat everything as being for kids. It’s that they can’t handle even the stuff that was, much less an older audience.
I refuse to go to Netflix regardless of its successes.
Anime shouldn't had gone Main stream
Netflix just doubled the earnings of what Crunchyroll made.
After Netflix funded to make Pluto, I've become a fan
It's like netflix is making good progress on what they are currently doing works
With all the anime Netflix added in 2024, yeah they can compete.
Sounds like Netflix is giving Crunchyroll a taste of reality and defeat making it realize that it needs to stay ahead of Netflix. Talk about a wake up call boss.
Netflix > CR sad 😢
Whoever wins, we all lose.
Nope. Netflix isn't that bad of a company.
if Netflix had a anime only version, i’d immediately leave crunchyroll, i just don’t want to pay that atrocious like $20 a month
Dude, Netflix ruined Stone Ocean, it is not an alternative to Crunchyroll, it is just crazy that all of this just started a decade ago 😂
I'd rather pay for Crunchyroll over Netflix for many different reasons but if Netflix is all that's left then I must return to the high seas and put my skull hat on again.
@@infini.tesimo Exactly same here
🤣 Mmmm...the old limewire and bearshare days 😂
yeah im not sure what people complain about..8 dollars and a ton of shows..with no ads..also netflix has a good history of dumping millions into shows and it just being mediocre or straight crap..
@@Spazzfrom.1989 crunchyroll has way more anime. Where Netflix its mostly the anime that everyone even non anime fans watch. Where most of what they got I have Zero interest in. I'm a huge anime fan and pretty much only watch anime. The anime I'm interested in Netflix doesn't ever get.
@@WindUpTsukumo i really liked the dota and castlevania series..but i was suprised to find out that they ended at 4 a 3 seasons..dota felt like it was just barely getting into the climax and its larger problems..and castlevania seemed like there was quite a few people/issues that werent yet fully resolved yet..but yet they make a new castlevania..makes me wonder if they even know what theyre doing..loving the dungeon show tho..that one suprised me..dad pays for the netflix though..i wouldnt pay 20 a month for netflix..other than a few korean shows and indie films..most of the N originals arent quite there
We lost RightStuf for this 😔
I'll never forgive them for that. I actually bought multiple things and supported the anime industry through that place. I haven't bothered looking into any other website
Sony dodged the anti-trust people somehow. It is like how P. Diddy dodged the FBI before.
I miss Rightstuffanime 😭😭
It makes me very sad. I loved Rightstufanime. If I had the money I would've bought them before sony/crunchyroll and kept it running as it was for 36 years.
Join the Club. Right Stuf Anime 4 Life. Suck It Crunchyroll!
As someone who pretty much exclusively watches anime and doesnt watch any western TV or film, Crunchyroll is still the better option for me due to their larger library of anime. Netflix subscriptions cost more and there is less stuff on there that I want to watch. I imagine Netflix is winning over casual anime fans who also watch lots of other film/TV shows. It won't win me over until they either have lower prices or if their anime library significantly increases. The only way that thst probably happens is the collapse of Crunchyroll.
If Crunchyroll really does die off in a few years, I'll be intetested to see what other platforms pick up their library. Honestly, whilst Crunchyroll has its problems , I have to say that the app/website itself is far more functional than it once was in years gone by. As a regular user, I'm ok with Crunchyroll for now, but I definitely understand the msny issues the company has.
I have netflix anime on much more than Crunchy, but that’s because I just have anime that I’ve already seen running in the background while I’m reading manga, but most of the anime that I actually watch is on Crunchy.
But I do wish they had a TV app, it’s so much easier to watch Netflix, at the moment I have to use Airplay on my iPad to link it to my TV to watch episodes, and it has a bug for the last few months where the next episode won’t play, I have to go to my iPad and click on the next episode in order for it to play.
You sweet summer child...
Nobody's picking up CR's library once it dies. When they get the license to release an anime they always make sure to get an exclusivity agreement (probably for 10 years if I had to guess the undisclosed duration) meaning nobody else is legally allowed to translate or release that anime, even though CR in no way owns or created it. CR will die, but some random private equity firm will buy it for IP trolling, as always happens. Then CR will no longer stream anime, but still holds the exclusive rights to do so. "It's my IP to sit on and do nothing with!!!"
@xraze6906 ah. I didn't know how that all worked. Sounds like very bad news indeed.
Even CR's library is pretty limited if you like watching older anime. It's good for new stuff coming out, otherwise the seven seas is my preffered solution as someone who has paid both for Netflix and CR in the past.
It’s probably because they both censor everything that has to do with nudity.
CR needs to revert back to some of what the community likes to have such as a comment section just to name a thing missing.
Yeah it really does.
@@imJGott I didn't even know it had comments and I used it for 12 years. One thing I miss was being able to screen shot
would be great if one could search by number of episodes. i dont wanna find a new anime every time im gonna watch because of 12-24 episode 1season animes that i have to settle for since everything has multiple genre tags. same problem netflix library has everything there has like 10tags so doesnt matter what genre you choose.
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Yup! You use to be able to read the comments on each episode to see what others thought about it.
the thing is Netflix was always bound to succeed as the og streaming service now you can watch anime and normal shows and movies without having to have another subscription where i live for instance country price for Netflix max plan is about 5k naira (1600 naira=1 dollar)
Crunchyroll roll base is 4k naira and now Crunchyroll been fucking up throughout the entire year so Netflix was bound to be on top
Netflix has source-censored content. The Ranma 1/2 remake already failed at making anime fans Netflix subscribers. Anime fans watch anime, not Netflix.
What is your country? Currency named naira is sounds beautiful
@@wifikun2466 Nigeria
@@wifikun2466 bro just wants to use the country prices
@@lordray1000 nah bro, my country have crazier prices (1usd=16 000 idr)
If SONY kept FUNimation as premium subscription for CrunchRoll meant classics it would've been better for them.
Yeah something like this would have worked really well, or just kept the FUNimation movies division intact cause man the crunchyroll one sucks so bad
@ i honestly loved FUNimation app design and layout…😞
I miss Funimation I wish it would have stayed
@MinaRose2023 me too 😢
Netflix also sometimes offers Japanese subtitles with Japanese voices, so I can practice listening and reading at the same time. Crunchyroll never has that.
Crunchyroll just added English subtitles for English dub. So yeah they are just now trying to catch up to norms.
Sounds like Crunchyroll really needs to do better if it wants to compete with Netflix.
Netflix is still a bad service. Even if the content is greater than 'Stairway to Heaven' by Led Zeppelin, you will be able to get the content on DVD. Sailor Moon Eternal still does not have a US disc release.
Yes, I do this as well. Love reading Japanese with Japanese dub
@@LuigiTheMetal64 jou realy hate netflix your commeting on everie comment
We still have the rumor that Crunchyroll was going to increase subscription prices by 15-35% (?). If they do that, they're going to lose a lot of fans and pirate sites will become more popular again when they've been trying to control the pirate websites.
It's interesting to watch all these streaming services joining the war for anime, however its just ruining the viewers because we have to be subscribed to multiple sponsors that take certain titles. It's frustrating. It's crazy how we're at this time in the Anime Community.
Japan just needs to own their own anime streaming service (which i heard they have one) , need to welcome us westerns, please
I would hate to pay the Netflix subscription price if the only thing I watch is anime. There is nothing else on there that I want so I would be paying more for the same content as Crunchyroll. That would suck.
True 😮
Nah, Crunchyroll is destroying itself, and Netflix is just picking the pieces for itself.
5:40, I mean, we saw 7% of their viewers were coming for anime. adjust the subscriber numbers and that’s 16m for Netflix. it still essentially is just double crunchyroll’s money lol
If only HiDive/Sentai Filmworks could capitalize on the situation and offer more compeition, since they are more of a dedicated avenue for anime. But they have no money and are really cheap by comparison. Seriously, why not start backing them if the other is so despised? With enough subs and DVD purchases, they could galvanize a disgruntle fandom to their services and give us what we want.
They are trying to do that right now.
And, if push comes to shove, Sony owns or is partnered with Columbia Pictures so they could easily expand Crunchyroll's library to include non-anime films and craft their own Netflix and use CR as its foundation.
Hidive needs to fix its app for smart TVs.
Searching for series on Hidive is awful.
It will link you to random, unordered episodes of a series rather than take you to the series itself.
Just awful.
They need to have more than you know just a couple of new shows every season for high dive to really take off. They usually have one show that you need to watch and they might have some other shows but the the quality and the consistency hasn't quite been there the types of things to expect from season to season are unpredictable on high dive they do have some good backlog titles though
@@Veretax I subscribe to them. Every few months they surrender another older anime's streaming rights to the competition. While they maintain the physical media rights, as they do reprints often, HiDive loses a number of shows. Sadly.
The only thing I can suggest additional is buy stock from their parent company to support the studio so they have more money to play with.
If they can break out of this runt, I'm sure they can overtake CR.
I'm down for people doing whatever that makes them happy you know? So long as you ain't hurting no one it is what it is. Life is too short. We can go at any time. At the end of the day I just want people to be happy. That guy that married Hatsune Miku? I'm happy for him. If that chick legitimately married a cardboard cutout I'm happy for her. It is what it is lol.
Who would've guessed especially since almost everyone has netflix and the anime that netflix has currently
Crunchyroll really needs to keep up with the competition.
@ProfessorDreamer it probably can't Netflix is getting all the bigger shows which can starve out crunchyroll
@@ProfessorDreamertrue we need more more old one piece movie on there
@@mythicalskeleton1546 Netflix has only 1 anime I'm interested in that is Pokemon horizons. It has one piece but so does crunchyroll
It’s kind of funny how some people are acting like Netflix will be a better alternative when they have their own issues too, I mean they got called out by a bunch of anime producers a while back because they don’t pay royalties even if an anime becomes successful on their platform. I think both Netflix and CR suck but at least CR does pay royalties for the shows they acquire.
I was in the Philipines for 6 weeks and netflix unlimited is only 300 pesos and they have almost every anime that's on crunchyroll that I watch. Also with weekly updates. I was like WTF but I caught up on much anime.
That's because anime is free on TH-cam legally so they have to step up in the Asian market
I still prefer Crunchyroll because one of the things that makes it better than Netflix: Crunchyroll knows what an "anime" is.
Not sure if I’m a fan of Netflix being the next anime service since they tend to take ages to get every season of an anime on their site and then they very consistently remove shows for reasons I don’t understand.
(I don’t actually know if this is still the case- I don’t really like Netflix so I haven’t used it in a while)
I mean they have blue box, my happy marriage, sakamoto days, and the one piece remake as exclusives that’s why I have Netflix
Also the summer hikaru died is coming on their platform next year too.
I’ve been Netflix is starting to learn from their mistakes, especially where anime is concerned since they’ve had some of the biggest anime flops whether it’s live action or animated in recent years and because they’re one of the bigger companies learning from there failures they are starting to build an understanding of how to navigate through the industry.
Anyone can sit here and say Netflix is trash or that I’m wrong but a company as big as them it’s gonna take some time for communication and wording to go through the different channels
Yea, Netflix is quite slow in picking up popular shows. But I understand since even when an anime is popular in Japan, it doesn’t mean it will also be in other parts of the world. Plus, there are licensing issues to consider.
Doesn't Netflix have a poor track record when it comes to producing original content, adaptations (live action one piece, and avatar being the only exceptions that i know of), and getting rid of popular shows and movies.
They do. Despite removing Glitter Force now that Pretty Cure is more available under the Pretty Cure name to anime fans, viewers like myself are still not subscribing to Netflix.
They had the track record for poor original anime shows but it has been changing for quite some time with Cyberpunk edgerunners, Dungeon Mishi, Pluto, just to name a few.. they have been on a great track recently with anime shows.
they USED TO but recently its almost always been hits
Arcane
Dungeon Meshi
Cyberpunk
etc
Netflix gave us one season of Lookism.
Nothing more yet. No season 2 announced. 😭
@@knaditya8228 cyber punk was mediocre and so was pluto with its let me tell you what the point is in the final 5 mins..dungeon meshi is really good though..id rewatch dungeon..i got no desire for edge runners..or the other
Netflix has done far more progress in anime than Crunchyroll has, so it makes sense. I dont see crunchyroll surviving
If only they aired weekly episodes instead of dropping everything at once after all the episodes have aired.
@@KhanMann66i think they have started doing that, which i think was a great move
@@KhanMann66but they did that with Dandadan
@@RocSandy Crunchyroll is too big to fail, at most they’ll become an obscure anime source but I doubt they’ll be that braindead to not change their ways before it gets to that point
Censoring the Ranma 1/2 remake at the source is progress? Nice try. Even I still boycotted Netflix since December 2015. I don't care if the Glitter Force series is no longer available.
I can’t believe that I’m being “that guy” but I don’t think we can fairly compare Crunchyroll to Netflix or Hulu/Disney when most “normies” and their mom have had Netflix and Hulu/Disney at one point whereas Crunchyroll is more “niche” comparatively.
SInce anime is 7% of Netflixes traffic and Netflix has 230 million people that means the equivalent of 16.1 million people are watching anime on Netflix so if that estimation is true than Netflix is making almost double with almost the same amount of people watching anime as Crnchyroll
I remember a time when Netflix had only a few anime on their platform. Although crunchyroll is many kinds of awful, I don't want them to disappear completely like VRV or Funimation or Roosterteeth
You mentioned Crunchy Roll licenses anime to Netflix. I'm guessing that is why Dragon Ball Daima episodes were coming out a week late on Netflix.
Netlix has larger user base. Not weird. How many netflix users use netlix mainly to watch anime? Probably not that many.
I think the doubling is more significant than it might seem at first glance. The article says anime is 6.8% of Netflix viewer demand, so if you take that to mean that's the percentage of Netflix subscribers that watch anime, and they have 230M subs, that works out to around 15.6M subs watching anime on Netflix. That's on par with Crunchyroll's 15M subs which one assumes are ALL anime watchers (otherwise why subscribe?). In that light, Netflix doubled revenue on essentially the same number of anime watchers.
Netflix is £10.99 a month Or £17.99 if you want 4k. CR is £4.99 a month. With roughly the same size audience of 15mil for anime its easy to see how the numbers are obtained.
@@LionheartTM That got me thinking a bit more - the article says Netflix "earned about $2.07B from anime". I'm wondering how that's calculated (amount attributable to anime vs non-anime content). Also is 6.8% the percentage of subs that watched ANY anime at all? It actually says it's 6.8% of viewer demand so my initial assumption that meant 6.8% of the total subscribers may be (frankly probably is) wrong. Maybe it's 6.8% of the time spent streaming all content? Which makes it harder to compare.
So I'm obviously overthinking this, and the more I (over)think it, the more questions I have. I feel like I do that with a LOT of news stories these days. Like there's always some information missing.
what made Crunchyroll stand out was the comment section. it was a place to come together and discuss about episodes, blog aricles. Now it's just a Video streaming platform, and I can do streaming on Jellyfin.
I used crunchyroll on firestick and they got rid of the row for just added. Now I have to go to browse to see what dropped today. Rows should be customizable and the over all design for crunchyroll needs an overhaul because it’s hard to find classic stuff. Also they don’t have dub for shows that have dub on other services. Competition is good. Crunchyroll needs to change. This will motivate them, not shut them down.
has really annoyed me that the just updated row is gone
thats how i kept up with everything
I don’t know if this factors into the amount Netflix makes off of anime but they have successful shows like arcane, blue eyed samurai and castlevania to name a few that are western animation shows that get lumped into their numbers but aren’t anime. Competition is needed in the hopes that crunchyroll can get their act together. I know most people here in the comments along with chibi can’t stand crunchyroll but I’m rooting for them because Netflix is too expensive and so is Hulu for that matter. I’ve just about given up hope for Hidive because they can’t even get their app right let alone everything else they fumble like losing the rights to so many good shows. In my perfect world, crunchyroll and Hidive would be our best options because both combined is less money than Netflix or Hulu. So please get your shit together Sony and AMC.
This was the expected results for the company that was convinced that people wanted "high guardian spice" that showed that the people in charge had no idea what they were operating.
I would not want to undersell the damage that Crunchyroll in Sony continue to do to themselves. However I am not confident that these Netflix numbers and the Crunchyroll numbers are actually an Apples to Apples comparison and the reason why I say that is how does Netflix figure out what they made on anime only and their subscription covers pretty much everything on their platform maybe there's a way to get viewing information and get percentages or something but I just have a hard time believing that Netflix is necessarily tracking things quite that way
There are WAY to many streaming services and it has basically turned into cable. So good.
The problem is also that crunchyrolls contract with the companies that want their animes to be stream on their streaming service is outdated, it's s very likely Netflix probably charged more for the animes to be streamed on their streaming services. Crunchyroll will have to renegotiate pricing for their contracts if they want to survive. Damn it we think alike I wasn't fully listening to the video but you mentioned it lol 😅
remember all anime is forever
and it'll never die.
Crunchyroll and Netflix are never sustainable. If they are, the Satellaview service would have lasted long too.
@@ProfessorDreamer Not as long as there are those who maintain it. 🦜🏝
My friends and i were watching Dan Da Dan and Daima together, we had to watch Daima on crunchyroll cuz they were the only ones that had it, but on our tv crunchyroll is constantly buffering and skipping ahead 10 seconds, so wed switch to netflix for Dan da Dan. I dont know if thats just an us situation with our tv, but they literally sent our business to netflix with how bad the service was.
Crunchyroll derseverse every failure in the future.
It really needs to undo its mistakes and redeem itself doesn't it.
And CR's actual site and streaming service is just plain terrible, forgetting all the other problems and issues Sony has.
I want to pay for my anime, but right now they only decent way to do that would require me to learn Japanese and buy the Japan Blurays.😢
I don't know how well a rebrand would go. That strategy might've worked like a decade and a half ago, but it's just too easy for the controversy to follow the entire companies and corporate family trees now.
Me: *causally hating both of them*
I'm glad at least Crunchyroll is getting what they had coming to them but it is sad to see that the ONLY U.S Anime streaming service will be gone.
you might want to look into hidive
Despite how netflix is one week late of anime episode and how horrible their production is considering the ceo think we the customers are extremely dumb and have to remind where the episode is in and thinking making some sort of standard guideline for anything made in netflix. It is the lesser evil compared to crunchyroll indefinitely.
They have their flaws, but they are improving on the anime aspect of things, at least give them credit for that lol
@@ronel7836 as long as they know to NOT make a deal with them on production…….. unless your vigilant like Oda….. well we have to see how season 2 will be.
We need competition but can't keep feeding one place. In the end that place eventually becomes the new villain. Reminds me of the South Park episode with Wallmart, where they destroy it in the end. They then continue shopping at a local market which grows and grows until that place eventually gets destroyed by them as well. In the end Randy says to go shop at another local market and we know the cycle will repeat.
Crunchyroll is still making 8 times more if u compare the number of customers. crunchyroll is $66 / customer, whereas netflix is only $9 / customer.
daily FU crunchyroll for taking princess connect away
Poor Crunchyroll, let me get my smallest violin.
I mean, a guy married to Hatsune Miku. So a woman married to an anime guy is fine by me. Equality.
I had never been so jealous of a car that cardboard box before reading my life. I want that to be that cardboard box character. Why must it be him? Why not me?
yeah not only the comment section removal + changing dialogue in subtitles, but whenever a big show drops an episode, the entire CR site goes down, its so dumb, if they cant handle the load of viewers, dont bother getting bigger shows, and if they cant get big shows, how can they claim to be the biggest site for anime? id prefer sites like hidive to break the barrier an pull things away from CR and actually have a bigger library of content (sure CR has a big library, but quite a few they only have certain seasons of a show, not every season, and its stupid to have to go to different platforms to watch all seasons of 1 series)
I kind of welcome any merges to streaming services, the less streaming services I have to pay for the better
I would like nothing more then for Netflix to have more Anime, especially the ones I watch.
The anime library on Netflix is still too small to truly dethrone CR. Even if they took every giant IP, there are many people who watch old, smaller or less known shows, and right now there is no other legal/reliable sorurce for that.
I certainly hope Netflix continues to expand their selection with less mainstream titles, but I also hopes they stop their policy of just cutting anything not-absolute-best-seller right in the middle. They going for Dorohedoro season 2 is a really good signal, IMO.
One thing I noticed lately is that crunchyroll doesn't have some of the english dubs they used to have when they had both subs and dubs for popular anime now they only have the subs
There's also the fact that Crunchyroll can work alongside other companies for projects. Let's not forget that for Dragon Ball Z Kai and Super, while Funimation had the dubbing rights, Adult Swim had the exclusive airing/streaming rights for a long time.
They also have an advantage in that they have Sony as a parent, which owns Aniplex, giving them almost exclusive rights to streaming and dubbing their works.
That wedding was amazing
@@Hollow_Ichigo kinda
5:27 If you do 6.8% out of 230 mil it comes out to around 15.6 mil comparable to the crunchyroll's 15 mil total of only anime watchers so considering that netflix anime subscribers pay almost double (15.5/month) the crunchyroll's subscribers(8/month) they just assume it's simply double, the fact that they have access to other things and don't use them should be taken into consideration, but I get how they could consider it earning double from anime shows in comparison.
Also on that note, I think that there is a generally set number of people willing to spend money to watch anime on the official streaming sites and regardless if it's 8$ or 16$, so a lot of them do overlap so the two platforms aren't eating each other's customers because they don't have the same shows offered. Their goal now is to convert more non paying anime watchers to their platform and keep them which both platforms struggle with rn, witch can only be done if they drastically increase the frequency of the ultra high quality shows they get. Now the only question is if the people in charge of the two platforms realize this or not.
You wouldn't say this to the guy that complained about the subs in saiki k on Netflix
Interesting. I speak Japanese so I always watch anime on netflix because crunchyroll doesn't work in Japan and doesn't have Japanese subtitles.
So I reckon there's a ton of revenue coming into Netflix from Japanese viewers as well.
Netflix may be specialized and well funded but it’s still strange for them to beat Sony and crunchyroll in their home turf. Anime and games are the next Hollywood movie gold mine so Sony really should have been working on better synergy between PSN, Sony pictures, Sony animation, crunchy role anime streaming and the Japanese anime and manga market. This stuff seems like a no brainer to me. They even have the headset they can make media for
Main thing is Netflix's offers more than just anime. If someone is tight on money it makes sense to cut down on services. With Netflix offing other show's and movies than just anime I would choose the one that offers me more. Especially if the monthly subscriptions are close in price. I think economy is a factor as well. Netflix just offers more then Crunchyroll in general.
There is no doubt that Netflix is much better than Crunchyroll. Netflix is unstoppable because it had almost everything.
i want to mention that Netflix has a problem with Correctly designating "anime" from the Non. a large number of Cartoons are labelled Anime.
All Netflix needs to do for me is have a comment section under every episode and I'll leave Crunchyroll. Its been about 7 years since I started paying for anime and the only reason was cause of the community but ofc they had to take that one good thing away from us.
Sh💩 translations, high cost membership that keeps going up for some reason, and a team that only cares about money over truth. I wish we had another website to stream stuff like re zero or mushoku tensei than to rely in this BS 1:11
Netflix has had good anime this year in August.
Crunchroll is a woke pile of trash on fire... Sadly it has almost all stuff i already watched in anime side and for sure i will lost the future of some really good shows
6.8% (viewer demand) of 230million subscribers is 15.64million, so roughly the same viewer count since Crunchyroll is 100% anime demand of it's 15million, I'd say they did pretty good to almost double the revenue with roughly the same amount of anime fans, unless I'm looking at that totally wrong.
Are you sure about that ? I mean I see the name Parrot Analytics and that raises a bunch of red flags for me. They were already in some controversy in the past for basing their "estimates" on internet traffic about something based on the assumption that "all publicity is good publicity". I do not remember now what that is, but it was some failed show. They reported it as being the market leader or something while it under performed financially and the true viewing numbers were terrible.
So whenever I see that company as the source of any market claim I tend to not trust it.
Anyway, just comparing MY experience with Netflix vs Crunchyroll (I am NOT from North America), Netflix does not have anything better. There are some exclusives but those are very few. The main difference is the public knowledge of both. You have to specifically look for anime streaming to find Crunchyroll. You have Netflix plastered all over the internet. So yeah, from that perspective, Netflix should be leading.
It's nice that Netflix is competing for anime viewers, but we should be cautious. Let's hope they don't start censoring their content library to increase their profits 🤞🏼
I still dont understand why they got rid of the comments. I looked forward to that little community.
Thats why I have Blu Rays and DVDs for Anime because some anime titles that where not on Crunchyroll
Sometimes I ask myself whether some Companies just don´t want to improve or profit more at all with simple changes.
Sorry Crunchyroll, but Mashle and Cells At Work is finally on Netflix in my region
Not saying that this is totally untrue, but I have doubts about how accurate these numbers are. My 5 minutes sleuthing says that these numbers came from an analytics company and as far as I know, there aren’t any reliable analytics company for pure internet based services. Netflix is super secretive about both their users and their shows data. The only people with access to these data is basically Netflix themselves, so unless Netflix quotes a number on how much revenue anime makes them, I wouldn’t trust anything else. Every other analytics firm out there are merely making guesses. Some guesses are better than others, but as we’ve seen with election polling numbers, even companies claiming amazing methods can be way off.
I’ve been referring to Netflix till now, but I assume Crunchyroll is the same about their data. If their leadership has any brain cells left, they should realize what a goldmine these data is and make decisions based on that.
For now, I wouldn’t worry about Crunchyroll’s future (not that I love it), but I still find Crunchyroll’s style of editing the video to translate Japanese text to English an amazing feature. Whoever inherits Crunchyroll should keep that feature
Companies need to learn that making your company the same as your competitor removes your edge and makes you less preferable vs them and thus makes it easier for people to switch AWAY just as much as TO your service. If your users don't like the other tool and you make yours MORE like that tool, you're going to alienate users.
If anything I would love to see more competitors in offering anime to the world. Japan really needs to fix its anime industry problems before they could even consider tackling piracy
1. Not surprising for the marriage
2. Damn
Crunchyroll doesent even promote dragon ball daima because its not a a exclusive.
Thats why the deserve this.
Sony owns Crunchyr0ll and they dont care about dragon ball daima and
They just give anime of the year to the one they have.
They deserve it.
And Sand land another Akira toriyama story that not a lot of people don't know even exists
Does Netflix have “Bleach: Thousand Year Blood War”? 🤔
In India we only have it in Netflix, Disney+Hotstar only has the first cour
I don’t blame that lady, Isagi is just- *chef’s Kiss*
X w X (I don’t regret saying it.)
I like the anime that Netflix chooses. Along with good quality, they also tend to do same day dubs, which is incredible.
There is a ceiling for anime content. These corporations don’t understand that the line can only go up but so much, theres is only but so many people willing to pay to stream Anime.
I just use a VPN and get the majority of Anime on netflix now, there are only a few Animes you cant find on Netflix while using a VPN. Crunchy just died for me when they removed the comment section
I am also pretty sure they are crushing earnings because Netflix has japanese subtitles and crunchyroll doesn't For japanese learners this is a big plus. I use it a lot for sentence mining.
Crunchyroll still has greater value for me. I’m one of those guys who has an Apple Vision Pro, and little Crunchyroll has an outstanding native Vision Pro app. Netflix might be making all the revenue, but they certainly won’t spend any of it making their customers happy, instead just sort of taking out their frustrations with Apple on mutual customers. So I’m going to give credit to Crunchyroll for that.