Pre Appalachian Trail Thru Hike - Backpack, Shelter and Sleep System
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- My shelter, backpack, and sleep system choices for my upcoming Appalachian Trail Thru Hike.
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It's been over 20 years since I've looked at hiking and camping gear much less done any hiking and I just cant get over how much lighter everything is now. If I'm not mistaken when I used to go with my dad so many years ago, our packs weighed at least 35 lbs, if not 40 or more with everything needed for two people, for no more than 3 or 4 days. He had top of the line gear for that time also. I'm sure a lot of the weight was food but it's still amazing to me how much the gear has improved since I spent time with my dad hiking in the 90's.
Yup it's pretty crazy. Definitely saves my weak knees!
I started in mid-March and we had numerous nights below 20, including a peachy -8 on Blood mountain.
I’m sure you get a lot of internet quarter backing, but I’ll throw my hat in and suggest the 0 degree UQ with the 20 TQ, at least for the first week or two
Thanks, for helping me set up my gear for my thru hike of the AT next year. Being a hammock person I dont see too much about hammock camping on a thru hike. It nice to know I going in the right direction with my gear. Might need to get a lighter pack but I have a year to decide if I want to go lighter.
Get everything dialed in. It will be here before you know it! I'm gonna try and shoot a lot of hammock on the AT tips while I'm out there because I totally agree there isn't much info out there.
Pretty new hammock camper here. I’m really looking forward to your vids! Just found your channel watching Darwin’s latest vid. Keep them coming.
OH SNAP! So you are on the trail now. Good luck Frozen. I just watched a whole Thru Hike on the AT by Evan. He was an awesome dude. I saw you commented on the video I watched so you know the deal.
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TRAVELS FROM A FELLOW PITTSBURGHER!!!
Very thorough and detailed. You're a natural in front of the camera. Your AT footage will be on point!
oooooh this guy likes quilts like I like packs. Looking forward to seeing your hike, Frozen!
Sean I'm looking forward to see how your new bivy/tarp setup works for you this year. It worked good for Evan last year!
I'm very excited for your trip!! 😍😍😍🏕️🏕️🏕️🌳🍁🍁
Excited to follow your thru hike this season
Really looking forward to your hike. Your videos are always top-notch, so seeing them more often will be awesome!
Nice I’m getting so excited for your thru hike like if I was was going
Can’t wait to see your videos
Thanks for another informative video, it’s getting closer to the start date and I can tell you’re excited about that. Good luck and I’ll be following you all the way.
Can’t believe it is almost here!!!! Looking forward to your on the trail videos!!!
Im pumped for you! No matter what you do . Your mindset will dictate your hike .. Happy trails😀
Hi from Holland, looking forward to your journey!
Great sets! Thanks for the review! Have a greaaaaaaat hike! Many wishes from Switzerland!
I'm excited to follow your journey. 🤗
Excellent video young man I wish you all the luck in the world on your thru-hike
Awesome I look forward to your step off which is right around the corner.
Looking forward to your hike. I am a couple of years away from a Thru hike of the AT. I enjoy the channel.
So excited for your adventure! Wish you nothing but the best and take care! And thank you for putting grams into your videos!
A metric friend from Germany! :)
I wanted a Dream Hammock as I have heard nothing but good things but the lead time was too much for me as I start the AT on the 14th of Feb. So I am taking a HH ... See you out there!
Frozen that was a great video. One of the best big three videos I have seen for an AT thru hike. I have seen a lot of these types of videos and they usually just piss me off because they are a waste of my time. Good job. Good luck on your thru hike. I am planning another section of the AT in April. I am going to try and make it an annual thing.
Can't wait to watch!
Great gear choices ! If you hurry, you can catch up to and summit with Gary......
that pillow is bomb..love mine
Boy you are equipped .I am sure you will make it .Good luck
Your prep work for this trip is second to none brother!! Very well done. Best wishes my friend.
Thanks man.
We are going to check out that continuous ridgeline for our tarps. We just converted to hammocks and we are still working out the kinks. We have been on the lookout for ways to speed up the setup process and this looks like it will really help. We are looking forward to following your journey!! So excited for you!! Thanks so much for sharing!!
Can't express enough how excited we, your audience, are for you. Greetings from all the way from Asia, Frozen!
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Looks good Jason I think that is a good choice to go with the LightAf backpack.
I think so too. No parts that can break and it is super comfortable fully loaded.
It’s been awesome watching your prep for the AT. You’re gonna crush it... You def wanna test those HG 20s, I only use mine in 35+. For me the 20 is a survival rating. But hyoh. Good luck and keep the videos coming.
I'm a pro-stuff sack guy as well. When it comes to my quilts and clothes, I really like to do all I can to keep them dry. As a fellow hammocker who has traversed the Smokies, I hope you are fortunate enough to get a few "full shelter" nights so you can use your hammock. Thanks again for a great video.
We definitely can get some cold weather in the Smokies especially in Feb/March (and even April). I’ll keep an eye out for you on the trail in the Smokies! Good luck Jason! :)
Thanks!
Thanks for all this. With your help and from others, I've dialed down my base weight to just 5 ...
... kilograms, that is. :)
You look well prepared and thought out good. My wife bought me a new 11 ft Darien Dream Hammock for Xmas. I wanted to give the 11 ft a try to see if it's more comfortable with a flatter lay and decided to go back to the more basic Darien. Nothing wrong with my 10 1/2 ft Dangerbird I'm just trying something different for this year.
Darwin brought me here... looking forward to tracking you on your trip! I'm a novice hammock camper and interested in how you do along the AT.
Welcome! If you are interested I have a beginner series about hammocks. But you may have more experience for that to be worth the watch time.
@@FrozensAdventures Thanks! I'll take a look. Never too experienced to learn something new.
If you are worried about being cold in your hammock just get a winter sock for it instead of using 0 degree quilts. I hammock camp in the winter and I use my 20 degree quilts down to 0F. Often it's the wind that makes the hammock cold, plus the winter sock traps a good amount of heat. I just add a torso length z-lite, down socks, and the hammock sock for winter use. Your set up looks good! Looking forward to your adventure.
I've used them in the past and they just seem to create unnecessary condensation for me.
@@FrozensAdventures A definite down side for sure. I find it worth it though when the wind is just brutal and getting under your under-quilt and blowing in your face.
Good Luck Frozen! Pillow? Take some PJs too! All the best! Karl
I have a set of sleep/town clothes I'll be bringing.
Long time hammock hanger here. Good choice on tarp, I own two of them. I like the Klymit X pillow as is keeps my head centered while the hammock and makes it hard to slip off. I also use Hammock Gear and Enlightened Equipment quilts, good stuff. Good luck on the hike.
I was looking at xpillow as it was on mass drop. But a quick trip to REI ruined that for me and saw that the s2s aeros had been updated to a ul model.
Man you should make a video covering supply drops and food, i know anyone planning a AT through hike would really appreciate it myself included!
Plenty of videos on where to send a ressupply. I have a food video already though.
@@FrozensAdventures all right, thanks for the feed back ill go check out your food video.
Some great tips and nice ideas. It all makes sense. Have a super adventure and look forward to the final edit post hike :)
I've had good luck with my HG quilts and pushing the rating. I also am a hot sleeper. Can't wait to see how the Curve performs for you I'm really thinking that will be my 1st frame less pack. Can't wait to tag along on your adventure.
That's good to hear!
Nice video. I have the HG econ burrow and incubator 20 degree and have been comfortable down to about 13 or 14. I'm a hot sleeper though, especially after a long hike and a big meal.
That is great to hear! Thank you
The 7 P’s will set you free. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance! My dad taught me to respect power tools, but to not fear them. I know you have respect for the AT and you don’t want to come off as arrogant, but C’Mon Man! We all know you are going to dominate this trip. You know how to listen to your body and keep yourself limber. I hope deep down you aren’t stressing about not finishing. As I tell my football players all the time, “Go take it!” Scratch my back with a hacksaw!
You could send back most of your cold gear after Pearisburg, VA. That is when you'll finally be getting into lower elevations like below 4,000ft
So I am doing my first 3 day backpack trip with some friends in April. I am taking my tree straps and carabiner set but didn’t see one in your setup. What do you use and why? Never even considered quilts until I found your channel. Thanks so much for your detailed presentations on gear and what’s worked for you.
Shouldn't even say attempt. My boy is going ALL THE WAY!
Gotta be humble about it just based on statistics.
Just re-found your channel. I’m trying to get my base weight down to about 10lbs and I’m just getting into hammock backpacking. I’m hoping to start section hiking the AT starting spring of 2020. It’s hard to find an ultralight hammock channel. Thank you!!
As usual you have everything planned to the tee...question tho..how would you compare the temp rating on hammock gear to the enlightened equipment quilts?
Don’t be afraid to carry the Neo Air the entire way. Opens up more options to sleep in Shelters, Hostels, and Tarp set ups. Same goes for the S2S Pillow. I got to the point that I used it nightly , including replacing the Pillows if provided. Don’t be afraid to go with the 3/4 underquilt for the maturity of the trail. You can supplement the Neo Air for insulation. As well. I never needed anything less than the 3/4 20* Yeti. I started with the lines attached to the stakes and same set up as you with HG Tarp Sleeve! Great Video.
Curious if you encountered Hostels without some sort of mattress?
Outdoor Adventures Two for sure and one more that the padding was survivable, but thin. Not many but when looking at the totality of 170 nights and the importance of sleep especially during a town stay; it was mentally important to me for some reason. I guess it was a form of insurance that while seldom is used, it nice to be protected the one time it is used.
Thanks
I'd be interested in a video on how you will organize your 35L pack with all of your gear. I use a 50L pack but feel like I always have "just enough" room.
it will pretty much be exactly like this: th-cam.com/video/5g18I73oejo/w-d-xo.html
Testing my 20 degree setup at red river gorge koomer ridge campgroung if your interested. Its free while gov. Is shut down
Excellent video Frozen!
But have a few questions.
1.) Are the burrow and incubators the premium of the econ models from HG?
2.) How did you attach your line to your stakes? I know knots pretty well but was curious on how you did yours.
As for the weather, this years weather has been insane. Yesterday was 63. Tonight its supposed to be a about 28. I live about half an hour from Amicalola. Like I said. Insane. Last weekend the trail wasn't so bad around Hawk mountain. But can say south of it there are lots of blow downs.
Cant wait for the next video.
burrow and incubator are all premium model quilts and to attach the lines I just use an overhand knot to make a loop and hook it onto the stakes.
@@FrozensAdventures thanks. New to hammocks so was curious on the tarp ties.
Waiting for my econ set to come in.
It is hard for me to believe that just a year ago I began following your channel and your AT thru-hike. It is even harder for me to believe that I now sit here watching your video as research for my own AT thru-hike. I am seriously considering the Hammock Gear Burrow and Incubator. Since you mentioned the length of your quilts, I'm assuming you went with custom quilts; did you get any overfill or just standard fill? And was your fill power 850 or 950?
Okay I am impressed by the sheer fact you are bringing a 38liter backpack! How in the world are you managing to carry everything you will need on such a long trip? how many days worth of food are you going to carry on aveage?
I also am very minimalistic and I am on the fence between a 65 liter atmos AG and a 48 liter(or 58liter) osprey Exos... But I am just afraid I wont have enough room for hikes longer than 4 days.
It's a 35L and that's main compartment storage only. Most manufacturers total all the other pockets like the outside mesh in their calculations. This is more of a 45 or perhaps even 50L. Everything fits well with 4 days of food.
I understand that rules in which you have to stay in the shelter if there’s room. But you know what, I would stay out and just say you’re sick.//// good luck dude, I’ll be watching. 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Silly question: Why do you place your backpack on the ground at night instead of hanging off the ridge line of your hammock at the foot or head? I'll be attempting a flip-flop with a hammock setup this year. Thanks!
Ease of access in the night and morning. No real reason though. It's just how I've always done it.
Good thing you dumped those EE quilts, had them and they don't even come close to their temp ratings for me even as a hot sleeper. They finally recognized the issue and upping their stuff which is good. I think you could have just gotten away with a Phoenix in 20, 40 to save weight and been good. I did 5-7 with my 20 and a Dutch winter sock a couple times and been fine. Looking forward to more videos.
I thought the EE's were well rated when I bought them 4 years ago. I can't use a 3/4 UQ in cold weather my feet get too cold.
I have HG burrow and HG Phoenix. What size Zpakcs stuff sack do you suggest for them?
Medium size works well for quilts down to 20. For 0 I'd opt for a medium plus.
You will do well
Thanks
Can't really say you are prepared. @@FrozensAdventures
so assuming the shelters you are required to stay in are full, can you then use your hammock or do you have to ground sleep?
If they are full then and only then can you camp in the surrounding areas.
eric fiorello I’m pretty sure the Smokies allow hikers to tent or hammock in designated areas near a shelter if the shelter is full; they also have a peculiar rule that allows college students on spring break (as opposed to thru-hikers) make reservations for shelters and ‘bump’ others out of full shelters along the AT to get their reserved spot(s); ironically, that’s probably okay with lots of thru-hikers who would prefer to tent or hammock than stay in the shelter anyway
Why even consider switching to the EE Revolt for ~1oz. savings and losing 10* over the HG Incubator?
I don't like sweating while I sleep.
Outdoor Adventures Fair enough. Seems the Incubator would be more versatile by adjusting your hang than swapping them out. HYOH
Totally agree with ya and I may not switch it out depending on how the weather treats me. But I've taken that 30UQ down well past it's rating so I trust. It's not going home for a while though.
Outdoor Adventures Right on! I'm building my hammock gear list slowly so I'm genuinely curious. Looking forward to some trail updates.
Will you be using cinch buckles or whoopie slings with your hammock?
Cinch buckles for me.
have you used compression sacks to reduce the bulk of your quilts? Bruce frome the city of Orange in Orange county Calif.
I do for the 0 degree quilts. Not necessary for my 20's
@@FrozensAdventures Wow fast reply, thanks. Good luck on your trip. Bruce from the City of Orange in Orange County Calif.
What kind of tree straps do you use Jason and what do they weight?
dutchwaregear.com/product/uhmwpe-poly-straps-huggers/ 12' straps. Pretty good and light.
Why the full size MSR Groundhogs and not the minis?
Worth the extra couple grams for me. They are vital stakes for my tarp.
Can you list your sleep system (hammock, quilts, etc) in the body below the video?
You can check my lighterpack link. It has all my gear.
Do you plan to use any bug netting around the hammock?
Hammock has integrated netting.
The Darien has a built-in bug net. It is an awesome hammock. Papa Smurf and the fine folks at DH really know how to make a quality product.
Does he plan to let Emergency services know where he is at for not being better prepared. One reason people are billed because they know better and don't care about searchers lives. Ten thumbs down.
Hello, I tried to contact LiteAF but got not response. I checked his website, but he looks sold out on bear bags and other items. Do you know if he is still doing business?
He is still doing business. He is slammed right now.
He is losing business. I enjoyed his mailing list but did not even get a confirmation which seems that his website it’s not really working either
I made an order via website and everything went through fine.
I guess I might have to wait until he replenishes the bear bags.
I don't see any sold out messages messages.
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Get real. A 14 ounce backpack has to be junk. Good luck with that.
Check out some backpacking cottage vendors, you will see a lot of great packs that are well within this weight range. They usually use a new material called Dyneema Composite Fabric which makes the pack waterproof, extremely durable and lightweight. It hasn't gone mainstream in retail stores yet.
Here are some links for your research if you are interested.
liteaf.com/
zpacks.com/
www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/
www.ula-equipment.com/
www.swdbackpacks.com/
palantepacks.com/
Hey Jim!!! Someone just completed an 8000 miles Triple Crown hike with this EXACT PACK!!!
Clearly this guy does not know frozen.. he doesnt do junk. Lol
Always starting with me Mark...🤣
Check out th-cam.com/users/mtilton24
Also, go to LiteAF's Instagrams feed and see the countless ambassadors currently using this pack right now on real through hikes!!!