GROUND POUNDER 2
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- THE US ARMY BUTTPACK IS GOOD WOODSCRAFT GEAR . IN THIS VIDEO I WILL SHOW YOU SEVERAL POINTS TO MAKE THE BUTTPACK SERVE AS A BUSHCRAFT HAVERSACK . WE WILL SHOW HOW TO ADD A STICK INTO THE BACK TO MAKE A USEABLE ROYCROFT FRAME IN THE FIELD. THEN WE WILL SHOW A NEW BUTTPACK AND COMPARE THE FEATURES TO THE OLD SCHOOL TYPE.
SURPLUS GEAR IS A GREAT WAY TO GET GOOD WORKING GEAR ON A BUDGET. IN THIS VIDEO I WILL SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON WHY YOU SHOULD THINK OF USING SURPLUS ARMY GEAR AS A BUG OUT BAG IN YOUR CAR IN CASE OF ACCIDENT OR THEFT.
kaufmans army surplus
samson alabama
1-334-898-1770
www.bing.com/local?lid=YN873x...
1960 U.S. ARMY BUTTPACK, VIETNAM BUTT PACK, VIETNAM LBE GEAR , VIETNAM ALICE GEAR , VIETNAM ALICE BUTTPACK, U.S ARMY PONCH, REUSABLE SPACE BLANKET , WOOBIE, PONCHO LINER, MILITARY SURPLUS,ARMY SURPLUS MODS,CAR EMERGENCY KITS,EXTREME WEATHER , CAR ACCIDENTS, SUPER SHELTERS,
I am really enjoying the Ground Pounder series. Simple and to the point.
thanks more to come
I have always thought that the old-school buttpacks were a better design than the new issue MOLLE waistpacks that replaced them.
here is a quick video on the m-1961 buttpack for use as a haversack for camping in the woods ..hope you enjoy it
I have a reproduction of the older pack/sack, and until I watched your video, I didn't realise it had a gusset. Sweet! The gusset was tucked in, and I thought it was just a liner. Thank you, Blackie!
The 3 day training pack is designed to use with the LBV 88. The D ring slips over the D ring on the rear panel and the strap secures everything together. The back secures to the belt with the keeper snaps or Alice clips. The whole system was short lived, but they kept the butt pack going. I think the whole system was the IIFV. The CFP 90 and patrol pack completed it.
I thought I was the only one who carried the buttpack as a haversack! I’ve had three haha. Very cool to see this!
A M1936 musette bag would make a great haversack too. But an original would be too old and cost too much, so repo can be had. I have an original that some family member brought back from WW2. Wore it as a backpack when I was five years old, original WW2 canteen too.
I have one in the back of my jeep. about 6 bottled waters and some beef jerkey in it.
I absolutely love military surplus
You could waterproof that or anything that will hold water with naptha and 100% clear silicone. I watched a video of this and he made a sheet waterproof. Take a bucket, put a plastic bag in it, pour 1 qt of naptha in it, then add the tube of clear silicone. Knead the bag to get the silicone to completely dissolved, then dip whatever you want to waterproof in this. Make sure you leave no dry spots anywhere. Wrong it out to ensure it’s all wet, they dry outside for 24 hours. The video used a sheet to make a waterproof tarp. Thought this could really come in handy.
yep saw that video thanks for posting
I use both a 1956 and 1961 buttpack. The latter required repairs much like your's. I was fortunate enough to fund a VE era worn fatigue shirt that I removed the sleeves and made patches with. I use the majority of the sleeve to fashion a new liner, applied sewing fabric glue, the hand sewed the material to the seams of bag interior. The glue was also applied near the holes to help reduce further loss of material.
It worked so well that I water "proofed" the new liner for added protection.
The visible exterior holes add character, but the new liner improves its use.
good use of resources
There is no skool like old skool👍🏾👊🏽
lol
OUTSTANDING VIDEO MY FRIEND!!! Now gotta get me one of these.... I'll be durn if you ain't cost me some money Blackie 😂😂
lol sorry
From a veteran of the era. The butt pack was a combat day pack. Mostly a one day patrol bag. Personal gear was not planned as contents. The only "overnighters" it saw were night patrols and ambushes. No sleep or shelter were going to be in the mission normally. It would hold three stripped out C-rat packs and 5 boxes of ammo. Less food and more ammo was common. You would not have time to eat anyway. Underneath was the poncho roll. A "space blanket" was not common back then and a woogie was not standard issue since you would not be sleeping on patrol. On the "Yoke" of the suspenders we hung the E-tool, square in the middle of our back. Under the straps of the suspenders we placed a pair of GI socks on each side under a ranger band. The butt pack was always used with the pistol belt and suspenders. The belt would hold 2 canteens and 4 ammo pouches. On the front would be a .45 ammo pouch if you had a .45. On the front suspender straps was your aid kit and compass pouch, and probably a pace cord.
thank you for your service
Thanks for the spike ascender inquiry 🙂
I have almost all my old military gear, an the butt pack, poncho and liner are still som of my favorites
awesome i love my old stuff it has served me well for a long time
Really enjoying the series. Thank you for doing them and sharing your knowledge. Can't wait to see more.
More to come!
I been doing that for years, my old gear still smells like Vietnam, lol 😆. I got away from my old military gear for a long time and just recently decided there was nothing better so I have went back to using it. Glad there is still someone besides me teaching the old grunt life in the woods. People need to listen before we all gone and take all this knowledge with us. Keep teaching the real life.
very true there was a lot of hard won knowledge of camping with that gear
@@blackoracle69 camping with them old soldiers was a lot of survival knowledge to be learned
Mate you get it right, the bumpack was the best idea we stole off the Germans,also hang tw0 extra water bottles on each side,with our larger ammo pouches full it evened it out, love your stuff.
I really like the canvas butt pack. Normally used as a day rig with the belt and H-suspenders, there was a sleeping bag strap that allowed the bag to hang from loops on the shoulders. With my tent slung underneath, I could turn the pack into an overnight rig, as you describe.
yep i may visit that rig in a upcoming video
Same rig I use
The M1956 LBE had a butt pack adaptor, that allowed the butt pack to be used as a backpack. I used a M1956 butt pack on belt and a M1961 butt pack with adaptor. The M1967 LBE H-suspenders had hooks on back yoke to attach butt pack or poncho carrier. Only have one, wish I had bought more when they were cheap.
Man how I wish I had that new one... all the surplus stores that was around my area long gone.
kaufmans military surplus samson alabama 334 -898-1770 tell them blackie sent ya and what
you are looking for they will hand select it for ya
Cool,im gonna modified my duffle bag to my regular aluminum back pack frame
Very interesting video thanks blacky see you in your next video
Thanks for watching!
The only time I ever used one of these (canvas, M56 pattern) was in Army Basic and Infantry AIT (Advanced Individual Training). If I remember correctly, unless we were bivouacking, we only carried the mess kit and an extra pair of socks. The fork, knife, and spoon were wrapped in the socks and then placed inside the mess kit. When bivouacking in Basic, we carried a shelter half, stakes, and one of the take down tent poles wrapped into a roll and slung under the bottom. Whether or not we carried a rubber maid in the roll, I don't remember. Nor do I remember carrying a blanket. When bivouacking in AIT, and there was a lot of it on the various ranges, we used squad tents with cots and sleeping bags. Once I got to Vietnam it was all ALICE pack.
By the way, having lived under my boonie so long while in the field, I have a special place in my heart for hats, and am constantly on the lookout for the "perfect hat". I know, a fantasy. May I ask, is the hat you use still in production? It appears to be wool, which seems on the face of it a strange choice for south Alabama. I would have thought a canvas hat would have been your choosing. But hats are like knives, when you use it you'll know.
Enjoyed the video, I really enjoy them. And thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
this hat is a boy scouts exploriers scout master hat it is crushable wool felt and mine has served me since 1993 or 94 i have had people ask and they say they found one thru the boy scouts
The old G.I. packboard is very useful for heavier loads. I'm enjoying the Ground Pounder Series. I'm looking forward to the next ones.
Glad you like them!
Love that smell of old army surplus.
i know its a unique smell
I love this series! Really looking forward to more!
more to come
Thx Blackie !!!
ALWAYS informational !!
Any time!
Good demo Blackie. I wore the canvass butt pack for many years with my LBR. Used it for many things, also I always had a poncho on top of it. Now I have a camo butt pack ready to deploy (my knees are not ready to deploy). Thanks and take care.
Great series Blackie, thank you.
My pleasure!
Knowledge isn't knowledge unless it is shared.
Thank you for sharing Blackie. In my youth the canvass butt pack is what my dad got me along with a belt, canteen with cup and cover and poncho from the local surplus store before sending me off to 4 weeks of summer camp. I still have one of the canvas packs and cherish it today.
i help a lot of people learn to camp with old surplus it was good gear and a 25 dollar investment would get you enough gear for a weekend campout
Blackie , good series and tips , thanks for sharing ,God bless !
My pleasure
Very good info I have been using my lbe harness with butt pack and Ranger Blanket roll for over nite trips and it has served me well.
they do well for that
Enjoying the content. Thanks
Glad to hear it!
Great series Blackie. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
My pleasure!
Best designed pack.
Today I went to an antique store and they had some army surplus gear. One of the things they had and that I bought was a L.B.E. has the straps the butt pack, some smaller pouches and a canteen. I am hoping tomorrow that I can get out into the woods and play with the L.B.E. Awesome video my friend
good score
This series are good thanks.
Glad you enjoy it!
Good information Blackie on the butt packs. Got a few of them from the 70s. Great possible bags for black powder hunts 👍
yep they hold every ya need on those hunts
I have had the same butt pack for 50 years. It stands the test of time.
they sure do
Good stuff, enjoying this series. I sure wish there was a link to the next in the series. YT has random ones cued up but I don't want to miss any.
I can smell the "adventure" in that old pack. Looking it up right now...love a pack without zippers.
yep less to go wrong
Just the kit I have been looking for to put on my canteen belt for day hikes.
it will serve well and a canteen belt carrier will hook to the side of a butt pack
Good video! I have had both types of butt packs but I prefer the nylon because of their water repellant properties!
Thank again for this great series! ATB, Sam Adler from Vietnam
thanks for watching
Great series Blackie. I like your canvas Vietnam buttpack, I don't recall seeing one of those. I have the modern nylon woodland camo one. Never thought of using it as a haversack. I have mine attached to the GI harness and web belt. Thanks for the video, look forward to the next! 👍⛺
Sounds great!
Great stuff Blackie!!
thanks
Blackie , WOW A Great Video and Information . LBE gear or WEB gear , it's great gear and will last a long time. Ground Pounder series is Awesome , I like all your series that you are doing . Thanks Again for you sharing your time and knowledge passing on the knowledge . You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter . Tim L.
Glad you enjoyed it
1st, keep up the great work Blackie
congrats ! and i will do my best
My butt-pack was right between those two, the pattern was just like the canvas one but everything was nylon OD green. Thanks for an interesting video, I like these subjects and not many talk about the differences is surplus gear from different eras and how they evolved.
Thanks for sharing!
I love your brass revolver videos Blackie! I'd love to see you shoot it.
i will one day soon
Great video good stuff. The second but pack went to the vest . I think. Well God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Right on
Great video
thank you
My old 91 issue woodland camo butt-pack is the exact same as yours, but I didn't cut my straps. It's still attached to my web belt and the LC2 harness. Enjoyed your video as always !!!
Thanks for the info!
Thanks. Used one of those for EDC and a small hunting haversack when I hunted with my inline muzzleloader. Still have one. Didn't know the details about the wp liner.
thanks for watching
I still have my Butt Pack that I bought from Clothing Sales and used it for about 17- years over my 24 military career. I turned in my issued one when I retired. I always had a purchased set of LBE for "Dress Up" Times such as Change of Command and parades, etc. It was the perfect size to keep your rain gear and other items at the ready when out in the field.
i knew guys who had field gear and ""dress gear"" the field gear was dirty and well used the dress gear was new clean and stayed in the house until they needed to do a inspection
The new junks issued to us now won't hold up to real use; but they are sure lighter.
Looking forward for more! Hard to wait for next sunday. And I'm excited about your upcoming video on Friday too! It's just the right series for me. Please teach us how to sleep outside with minimal gear! Can't wait to learn more from you. I'm so thankful that you do this series! Please keep on doing what you're doing. You became one if my idols in Bushcraft long time ago! And now I'm totally excited about this series.
Cheers from Germany!
thank you very much i will be going out to camp this week we will have temps in the 20'F here
@@blackoracle69 Uh, will be a pleasure to see how you deal with it! I bet it will be great! Looking forward for it!
Cheers!
@@blackoracle69 see, Germany loves you. and rightly so :-) 20° ? brrrr^^
Nice M1961 butt pack. I carry one with a GP strap as well. Very handy and isn’t as loud as the M81 woodland LBV ones.
true the old green is better for me at least
I got one of those canvas sweedish gas mask bags that were really popular a few years ago. it's the same size/shape as the canvas one you show, but it doesn't have the features that bag has, no pass throughs or extra straps to strap or tie things to no liner. But it's fine bush crafting purposes and holds a surprising amount of stuff. I modified the straps to make it more of a shoulder bag and it works great.
i have seen those and almost bought one my self
I like the dark green camo bag for a game bag
Yup my kit for yrs was the lbe . With the ammo pouches which takes some room out of the butt pack .for a weekend 100 percent will work .and It works great for haversack fishing pouch hunting pouch .oh we would put a garbage bag cross the bottom up over top top of equip. Kept it pretty dry my new bp was short strapped too ill tell ya man two of the new ones you could go for a week no sweat .coupled with a sustainment pouch you styleing
thanks brother
Funny I didn't think about it in your blackbird haversack video. I mentioned I have my aloce pack that typically stays at camp but I work in layers and also use the Y-harness alice system with a field pack like yours instead of the smaller buttpack so I guess I really use that field pack on my belt and harness as my haversack. I keep a bit of food and plastic ziplocks for gathering material in it along with my poncho and woobie tied to the bottom. My philosophy in working in layers has always been each layer I can survive if the trip goes bad but it may just be a little harder as I lose layers.
sound wisdom
I love my old butt packs. I have a couple of them and used one as a haversack
they serve really well
I configured a lot of my Alice and molle gear together like for instance a Alice frame to a modern backpack, but I feel dumb I never thought about the “haversack butt pack” and I got actual Vietnam US ones too, but I do got actual Haversacks tho, so I guess that’s why I didn’t think of it haha
they can serve very well
I was thinking of taking two backpacks connecting them with the Alice clips but I'm not sure what is the best way to carry them if I do them that way
You in Alabama, I'm in Louisiana, we got about the same climate. Might have to camp together one day and chat around the fire
I PUT ON A GATHERING AT GENEVA STATE FOREST IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA THIS YR IT WILL BE APRIL 6-10
Seriously, you should have that cordage in every video showing a new use of it. It could be your 'Wha' choo ta'kin' 'bout Willis?'!
lol i got lots of ideas to try with that
Still using my old canvas butt pack as a haversack/hunting bag.
i love the old canvas ones they smell like adventure
I use the current sustainment pouches in a similar manner, but the sustainment pouches doesn't have the extra attachment points on the outside and not as much interior room. The waist pack does similar but also less space.
yep the modern has a diffrent mind set and the gear reflects this much of this old gear does well for camping
@@blackoracle69 agreed. A lot of the new gear is not conducive to actual bushcraft use. Modern military seems more focused on using supplies vs self-sustainment in the field.
I use a finnish gas mask bag as my haversack.
those are a good choice
Now why the heck did I think you were gonna talk about boots
cause i had mentioned i will do one talking of boots in the future
i use a mag pouch from an m14 for my emergency gear can clip to a belt and i have a nam era canteen set with cup
i did as well fir many yrs in my earliest videos i was carring a m-14 mag pouch as a firekit / survival kit
@@blackoracle69 it kept me alive homeless for a year and still going
the bottom straps on the new butpack should be as long as the ones on the older one that are there for the same reason to keep your poncho roll ,containing the poncho and the poncho liner
yep i think this one had the straps cut short before i got it
Blackie, when making an improv Roycroft frame with one of those buttpacks, could you just leave a couple of branch stubs on the bottom of the vertical sticks to act as hooks? Or would end up digging into your back? (thinking of getting one of those packs, haven't done it yet or I would have already tried this hack myself )
they will dig in unless they are pointed well away from you
Did they used to call these small Buttpacks Musette bags? My hero, John Roarke, carried
a Musette bag filled with extra mags for his Detonics Combat Master as well as other things.
musette bag was a small cargo bag of ww2 fame but this butt pack serves the same function
And herein we have the justification for the purchase of two Blackbird haversacks.
lol well if you really want two
@@blackoracle69 I already have - and use them. Different levels of use, but several redundancies. Matching soft shackles.
Why can you just good idea to take a backpack and use it as a I carry food and what cause I need and what my hammock and a blanket and go go for a couple days thank you
true that is a good way to do it as well
Hey Blackie, would a Civil War soldier have called that Haversack
his " Possibles Bag " ?
yes same bag just it was called a seperate name over time
Carry squirrels and rabbits in mine!
makes a good game bag
I had one of those that I used for years when I wasn't having fun in the woods I used it when I surveyed. I love those things I do not know what happened to the one I had but I certainly would like to have another one. Blackie would you please sell me that old butt pack please I would be delighted to give you any amount of money you want for it. I've been in several Army Navy stores and Military outlets and still can't find one. I would be delighted to buy that one from you please please sell that to me. I hope you read this. Thank you Blackie.
I don't have any surplus stores around me u know any I can go online and find em
kaufmans army surplus samson alabama 1-334-898-1770
It's coRdura.
Where can I find Blackbird brand products? I'm interested in taking a closer look at the Blackbird Haversack?
i sell them
blackbird outdoors is my brand so to speak
you can email me at downndirtywoodscraft@gmail.com if you would like to buy one
@@blackoracle69 Do you have a web page with your products?
Great old pack you don't see no more
i can remember when the surplus places had huge piles of them not so much these days
@@blackoracle69 I can to I miss them days and prices.
Hey there, Blackie. I’m still trying to throw you my money on your haversack. What is the current status?
i have a few left in stock
Hey how much is the newer pack
i have found them on surplus for 10 or 20 bucks depending
No I get it straight if you were in the military they issued you a pistol belt that butt pack canteen if you weren't in the military that is a butt pack not a habersack and if you have a canteen with a wire handle on the cup that's not a canteen cup it's a piece of junk canteen cup has the pool under handle it's a lot more stable than that butterfly handle they came out with oh and everything hooked to the belt the pistol belt that was issued to you the canteen the butt pack and it came with a set of shoulder straps not that shoulder strap it was a either h harness or wire harness shoulder straps it that hooked to the belt in the butt pack get it straight
pretty much i learned how to lock my butterfly handles together so they are a lot better but i still prefer the old solid handle
You will be missed if something happens to you
Why don’t you ever film a over nighter
i have its just been awhile
murica
yep
Where is the ground pounder part? This was nothing more than haversack options!👎
go look at the first one first we talk a but of gear then we go demo tricks like i did in the last one there is a method to my madness lol
Still got he first haversack u an mt lutz recommended
awesome i still sell those a few times a yr