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I've gotten to talk to Norman since this interview actually! Can you ask him if he sees any kind of hope for some kind of return to a left which draws inspiration primarily from a materialist analysis? And does Norman have a theory as to how the economic and social justice are inter-related? Lots of the social struggles are easily popularized by a "trigger event" (George Floyd here, Mahsa Amini in Iran), but attempts to popularize economic justice is a bit more difficult as far as I can tell.
Do you think the LGBTQ+ community will wake up and read Marx after watching Katy Perry vote Republican in the California election, or do you think they will continue to label you as homophobic and transphobic for suggesting there isn't anything revolutionary about gender and sexuality?
Could you ask dr. Finkelstein what he thinks is the cause of the "cultural shift", where people are easily offended by truthful criticism, and somehow act like offending someone in search of the truth is reprehensible? I feel like this has become a major problem in present day time societies, for as far as I can tell.
What sort of differences in left ideology in different countries. How is left manifest in EU, US, China and India? Why is left so delusional in some issues?
The media presents too little of his ideas. Actually he has been expelled, cancelled and muted by the mainstream media. Even left leaning channels like Democracy Now. The Intercept etc have cancelled him under the fear of Zionist pressure and donations (the powerful AIPAC)
His honesty on Israel meant he was never allowed on TV. I've just read his Gaza book. The sourcing is incredible. His eye for detail is off the charts, he excouriates those that have lied and Israel apologists
Absolutely ... been reading him for 20 years ... razor-sharp, deeply principled, scrupulously honest & courageous ... and (like most truly impressive intellects & political activists) extremely modest, genuine humility. It's been a source of real satisfaction for me that the greatest analysts of the Left immediately saw through the Critical Theory Cult & its fundamental subversion of core Left, liberal & social democratic principles.
This is how academic criticism should be. No sweet words no beating around the busy just straight up criticism. Loved the Professor and thank you for making this happen
Norman Finkelstein is one of the best sources of objective criticism when it comes to the dogma of what is America and also the vicious legacy and nature of Israel. Both nations which Indians adore, for all the wrong reasons. Very well Done IGL to invite such brave and resilient people like Norman Finkelstein
You have reached the pinnacle with this guest. His intellect and wisdom are unmatched in North America He can demolish any of those that consider him their peer. Well done.
I hung on every word from this man. So grateful that you interviewed Norman Finkelstein and that I happened to see it, even 2 months later. It still resonates and I will look for his book now that it is November.
What's frustrating is TH-cam is suppressing Finkelstei's search results. It's amazing how the professor lives a life of discomfort where he could easily have an AC but chooses not to.
Yes I noticed current videos of Norman are not available. I can only imagine he is being painted with the "self-hating" Jew accusations. It is not hard to cancel someone with a huge apparatus behind them.
He’s been hounded out of his professorship for outing a prominent jewish lawyer as a plagiarist and a fake in tge book mentioned early on. If i’m recalling correctly the lawyer was mentioned in an Epstein witness for a massage. He insisted everything happened with his underwear on at all times. If finkelstein chose to keep the event obscure I’ll do the same.
@@elmersbalm5219 I remember the debate quite well between him an Dershowitz on Democracy Now. It is on TH-cam somewhere. It's not just Dershowitz ,but I think the state of Israel has the whole notion of "Hasbara" - to silence critics of Israel. I can only imagine they act swiftly to silence him on platforms such as TH-cam. Norman almost always is interviewed over Israeli incursions into Gaza. During the last bombing of Islamic Jihad in Gaza a month ago, there was not one interview posted interviewing Norman.
The abortion i had in my 20s was an easy choice for me. I’ve never regretted it in the two decades since. As for social stigma, nobody has a right to demonize anybody for making a decision about their body. Thank you for pushing back on Norman.
Norman Finklestein is brilliant, funny, uncompromising and the farthest thing away from Queer theory (thank god) as you can get. Does anyone know if he and Adolph Reed collaborate or work together at all, especially on the idiocy of idpol, critique of the, Western left and the need for a class analysis? Thank you Mr Finklestein and IGL.
I love Norman, sure - i have my disagreements with him, (especially with regards to his stances on the Palestinian one-state-solution and BDS), but agree with almost everything he talks/writes about with regards to free speech and "woke" cancel culture. I also love Tariq Ali too, he's quite a brilliant writer and leftist intellectual as well, and i read the message he sent to you about Verso books refusing to publish Norman's new book, it was pretty viscous. I am kinda stunned at how combative/harsh Tariq was, especially seeing as how they not only are both prominent leftists - but have also been on many a panel discussing Israel's apartheid and ongoing ethnic-cleansing of Palestinians, and the two seemed pretty tight. Now i haven't read Norman's book yet, (obviously - it hasn't been released yet), but i have a hard tim believing that it's offensive enough and/or incoherent enough to warrant such a snide response from Tariq. If it's anything like what Norman says when discussing woke cancel-culture and id-pol, i have a hard time believe that the book was "nonsensical" drivel, which was what Tariq accused it of being. I have a feeling that this has more to do with him simply strongly disagreeing with Norman's take, and is unfortunately allowing this influence his analysis of the quality of the book. Now, it cold come out and end up being the garbage fire that Ali asserts that it is, but i highly-highly doubt it! Which is why im pretty damn disappointed with Tariq on this whole back and forth. Great interview/discussion here though!
Let’s be honest, there’s not enough truth and straight talking in this world for many people to make their way to Norman. But for those who do, whether it’s his TH-cam’s or his books, you’re gonna get one hell of an education.
As Finkelstein has experienced himself, this kind of conversation is a strictly enforced taboo within the Western left. I'm glad there are people like your channel that discuss these inconvenient for many topics, keep it up
I know it wasn't the topic of the video, but Norman is an expert on Israel. Gaza was in the headlines this week. The topic should have been addressed at least briefly due to it being timely. You have an expert right there. At least get a few thoughts on the matter. People who have channels need to do this. There are no other videos of Norman discussing what happened this last week.
Hi Steve, thank you so much for flagging the issue. We really apologize for missing this. We generally keep a sharp eye on current events, and place them in priority. If you have seen our videos with Vijay, we started off with Julian Assange, as the district court decision had just come in. By the same logic, we should have begun with Gaza. Since the schedule was fixed a month ago, and the agenda was the book, we kept it off the table. On hindsight, we consider it a mistake. We look forward to have more feedback from you. We would also be delighted to receive any email from you at indiagloballeft@gmail.com As we go past 500 subscribers, we would seek suggestions about questions from our viewers through community posts. Sadly at this stage we don't have the right to community post. Thanks again, Regards, Team IGL.
Indians are Israeli allies so u can be sure they won’t bring it up..infact when Israel bombs Gaza, a majority of them applauds Israel in the public walls of most social media and news platforms
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Sure. Problem is I can see no end in sight. Intellectuals and the man on the street are screaming at each other about us. We're just getting on with daily chores.
He sounds quite bitter here about the ascensions of some so-called Black scholars to the point that he seems bigoted, calling most "stupid" but refers to those that surrounded Obama as "White Jewish geniuses." While he claims to know what he's talking about the truth is that many of the supposed facts used in his critiques of them are completely inaccurate and totally false. I once held Mr.Finkelstein in the highest regard but after this not so much.
I used to think Cancel culture was ok because I conflated it with boycotts...Then I realised people are being cancelled for Free speech. After watching this interview, I just laugh at the fact that anybody and anything can be cancelled for whatever reason.
In America, the people who oppose reproductive rights for women also oppose any social spending to care for poor mothers or the children they will bear. It's not about concern for the children. It is depressing to see more women, minorities and LGBTQ being just as greedy, militaristic and apathetic as the the old white males of the past instead of using their new influence to address economic inequalities. However, it's absurd to suggest that it's actually the people rehashing libertarian or conservative economic ideology under a cloak of being "anti-woke" who are being intellectually brave. Were David Duke, Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan or Phyllis Schlafly "courageous?" The hysterically exaggerated importance of cancel culture in social media and academia has only given traditional conservatives and a new opportunistic pundit class something to hide their class warfare behind.
The women’s protest triggered the February revolution, which resulted in the abdication of the tsar. The October revolution was the one in which the Bolsheviks outed Kerensky in a coup d’etat.
This term "woke left" seems inaccurate I would say because these people are not, in the political sense, Left unless the term Left has come to mean bourgeois worldview. The disseminators of cancel culture, identity politics, "wokism", etc. worldview want wealth and power and privileges themselves. They have no issue with the status quo so long as they can be integrated into it's higher income echelons. The promoters of these politics are ultimately hustlers for the one percent. These politics were developed as tools in the ruling class' toolbox to divide the working class against itself in ways that don't threaten ruling classes. Get working classes to view social reality through these reactionary lenses instead of a class based view and critique of current social relations. The abortion issue should be analysed I would think in the context of the material conditions of women generally most all of whom today are proletarians. Social relations, class divisions and antagonisms, private property, etc. affect women's life possibilities generally. A pregnant young single working class female is a whole other question. And attaching a stigma to abortion doesn't seem right in terms of punishing or causing more anguish to the woman and perhaps shouldn't be reduced to an individual female question but a social question. Women generally and especially working class women are pressured by things not under their control to have or not have an abortion. There's no absolute moral argument vis-a-vis abortion and in today's society in the USA the ruling class have decided that abortion is not a constitutionally provided "right" and thus state government's will decide. Thank you Norman Finkelstein for the analyses with details of these political trends that have been around for decades unbeknownst to but dividing the working class. Thanks to the host too. "...present society is no solid crystal, but an organism capable of change, and is constantly changing." Karl Marx, Capital Volume One 1867 Preface to the First German Edition
Great discussion but I disagree with his argument on affirmative action and reparations. He says black people were "shafted", I think an appropriate word would have been enslaved and brutalized. I totally agree with his opinions of Obama.
Indeed, a lot of Finkelstein's characterizations are based on vulgar reinterpretations of concepts like reparations -- which is obviously about more than "cut the cheque" -- thus leaving him swinging at straw men.
What do you mean? Cashing in? Are you asking if he is profiting by authoring a book on a subject about which he is qualified to write? What a pathetic ad hominem.
@@stevenhines5550 Yeah he is definitely cashing in. " Wokeism " is a subject loved by the right and centrist liberals. You are almost guaranteed to sell quite a few books writing hysterical stuff about " wokeism ''. Does Finkelstein think that Black people are too focused on race? Does he think we talk too much about slavery? He is a prick
Hi Mike, So good to be in touch. That's so kind of you. I think we are growing at a reasonably good pace. Even though we started about a year ago, we have been consistent only since last August. That's one reason if you like. We can add that somewhat academic orientation of our work makes the show less penetrable to a large audience, specially in the Global South. With that said, we believe that people are supporting the content we are producing, and incredibly renowned scholars are joining us almost every week. We can expect to grow faster in the coming days. We also feel great that we have a small but incredibly well informed subscriber base with us. Stay in touch (the most important thing). IGL.
@@IndiaGlobalLeft It's a fine balance between academia and the working class. But any academic can speak in a manner that will engage the "common man", if they wish to. I truly believe that. So you should definitely not "dumb down" your content, just make it as accessible as possible. And that I think you are doing well. It's our mission to educate people, anyway
Did'nt have time to check the video , maybe you can help me out ...talking about the roots of woke did he mention those of the Frankfurt school, most prominent feminist intellectuals, 80% of the boshlevicks were jew? Thanks in advance for yoir kind answer
The whole “woke politics” is not stupid. It is a right wing redirection of traditional left wing views. The ideas of identity, woke, cancel culture and political correctness allows the right wing to misrepresent and demonize the left and avoid the primary issue of the left which is class struggle. The right wing now have all the straw men they need to switch the conversation and not address the terrible overlooked issue of the impoverished working class that have been systematically repressed and impoverished over the past 40 years. At this point 75+% of the US population life from paycheck to paycheck with less then $400 in the bank for an emergency. They have no savings, no retirement savings and no future as they find their bodies falling apart from years of exploited back breaking labor. These ppl are resorting to drugs and alcohol and suicide as their remedy to their destroyed lives. This is what the right wing desperately try to deny and avoid. The next time you hear anyone talking about woke and identity politics then tell them to shut up and go to hell. Then remind them of what real leftism is about: restoring the destroyed lives of working ppl and the poor.
I agree. In Canada, where I am, we are flooded with ideas and perceptions coming out of the U.S., where bizzarely, they seem to like to define "the left" in turns of what the neo-liberal corporatist Democratic officially embraces, or as the whatever happens to be the current "political voter base" for the Dems, and "the right" in turns of the Republican party (and Libertarian party). "Conservatives" are "right wing" now, not only because the support the status quo, including defending the poverty and disadvantage of the poor and the wealth and unequal advantage of the waelthy, but now also because they embrace the now more "traditional values" such as the recognition of fundamental human rights, while the corporate "left" are radical in their abandonment of not only "Chrisrian values", but also in their abandonment of fundamental human rights (like the right to say whether or not you receive an experimental medical proceedure), and they seem to promote and legitimatize, all in the name of "freedom and liberty", every possible way capitalists could more fully exploit and control other people... or perhaps rather, those "moral relaxations" that they tend to support seem to tend to correspond to one's which extend the opportunities for capitalistic exploitation. I don't know, maybe I'm just tongue wagging here, but I consider myself to basically be a "Christian socialist", and I tend to like watching Jimmy Dore videos, and I guess Jimmy really hates the Dems or something, he says he hates that they're deceitful hypocrites because they're just as corrupt and bad as the Repubs, and always only govern at the behest of the ruling, corporate backed super wealthy elite, but that their even worse than the GOP because they're supposed to be for the poor and middle class. And anyway, he and Max Blumenthal go on about how all the crazy lefties were fully onboard with "mandatory vaccinations" (for a private, proprietary, for-profit big pharma designed patented, novel technology "vaccine" for which no long term impact data was available, and which had only been granted emergency use authorization because the pharma companies effectively control the regulatory agencies involved, and because "elected representatives" are all bought and on the take, etc). And of course even Noam Chomsky makes some rediculous statement to the effect that basically, people refusing to be injected with this experimental substance, (which was admitted to have been designed soley in order to create on ongoing profit stream for the Pharma corps.), didn't, in his opinion, deserve to retain individual rights and liberties. And most of those willing to push back against the "mandatory jabs" seemed to be coming from the "religious (and conservative, and libertarian) right", i.e. significantly, Christians. And similarly, there seems to be more push back against arming the Fascists in the Ukraine, and escalatiing to a war against Russia, from the "right wing", while the media zombified "left", (who, accrding the American categorization, are those who still back the Democrats) tend to believe whatever the corporate media is saying, that tend to be tripple jabbed if not more, that still seem to believe that Russia helped Trump steal the election, that January 11 was far more terrifying threat to "our democracy" than September 11, that seem to think Putin is the devil incarnate and that the Ukraine was an innocent victim of unjustifiable Russian aggression, etc. It seems all so upside down now, with the majority of the anti-war voices coming from "the right". And then of course you have the WEF, basically representing the Western owner/ruling class, supposedly backing a socialist transhumanist (and basically evil) agenda, who, through their corporations, have basically been dictating Western government policy, and spinning out an inverted reality propaganda narative. Yeah, I guess I'm just ranting here. But getting back to my original point, it bothers me when "woke trans-gay activism", BLM, "identity politics", "defund the police" "radicalism", "pro-lockdown and pro-mandate" are all labelled with a broad brush as being "leftist", as well as the crazy "we stand with democratic Ukraine against authoritarian and fascist Russia, even if it means going to war with both Russia and China and even it means losing everthing", when, in reality, this is all media manufactured Disney alternate reality/fantasy, and it the Ukraine that is the authoritarian Fascists, and the idiotic proxy war against Russia is an insane neocon plan to conquer Russia so that our parasitc capitalist overlords (many of whom associate with the WEF) can seize control of its people, land and resources, and eventually, do the same to India and China and everywhere. And our governments are all the pockets of our true ruling class through the WEF, and "the West" is thoroughly corrupted and slowly imploding. Sorry, I can't seem to help myself here, I keep on ranting. I guess I feel very frustrated and annoyed. Anyway brother, all the very best. I expect better days are coming. Cheers, peace, love and God bless.
@@Zatzzo According to me, it's a woman's right to get an abortion. Who'll raise the kid if the mother didn't even want them? These "defenders of life" will not let a migrant in this country but they want to "save" this human life? Foh! It's tragic no doubt that a life had to die but that's the best course if the woman doesn't want the child. There are enough abused and ignored kids in the world. They can use all their anecdotes but they aren't -touching- coming anywhere near that baby AFTER it's born but before birth, they'll defend it as if it's their child.
Tariq Ali, Amy Goodman: is there anyone on the left who Finkelstein is still on good terms with? And I know that Tariq Ali comes from a successful family, but does he really 'own half of Pakistan'?
I would argue that Amy Goodman is no longer on the left. As an example, look how she promoted the Russia-gate farce. See, e.g., Aaron Mate’s critique of Amy or especially Jimmy Dore’s.
If Norman were to compare the amount of possessions he has amassed with the possessions that the Mahatma maintained, he would realize he is not living the way Gandhi did, so he might as well buy a fan -- Gandhi would have laughed at his foolishness.
As much as I love Norm and agree with him 3 out of 4 times, there is no woman question. Women are in no way analogous to black people in US history. Both men and women face sexism in various and differing ways, but women don't have it worse
Guys, We are having Norman back on our show on Nov 26th. Leave your comments and questions as "reply" to this pinned comment, if you want us to ask Norman your question.
I've gotten to talk to Norman since this interview actually!
Can you ask him if he sees any kind of hope for some kind of return to a left which draws inspiration primarily from a materialist analysis? And does Norman have a theory as to how the economic and social justice are inter-related? Lots of the social struggles are easily popularized by a "trigger event" (George Floyd here, Mahsa Amini in Iran), but attempts to popularize economic justice is a bit more difficult as far as I can tell.
Do you think the LGBTQ+ community will wake up and read Marx after watching Katy Perry vote Republican in the California election, or do you think they will continue to label you as homophobic and transphobic for suggesting there isn't anything revolutionary about gender and sexuality?
Could you ask dr. Finkelstein what he thinks is the cause of the "cultural shift", where people are easily offended by truthful criticism, and somehow act like offending someone in search of the truth is reprehensible? I feel like this has become a major problem in present day time societies, for as far as I can tell.
What sort of differences in left ideology in different countries. How is left manifest in EU, US, China and India?
Why is left so delusional in some issues?
one of the few public speakers that kept a spine instead of giving in after extended bullying
Norman Finkelstein is a great and honest intellectual. The media presents too little of his ideas. Please have him as a regular guest.
The media presents too little of his ideas. Actually he has been expelled, cancelled and muted by the mainstream media.
Even left leaning channels like Democracy Now. The Intercept etc have cancelled him under the fear of Zionist pressure and donations (the powerful AIPAC)
His honesty on Israel meant he was never allowed on TV. I've just read his Gaza book. The sourcing is incredible. His eye for detail is off the charts, he excouriates those that have lied and Israel apologists
I love how intellectually honest Finkelstein is, and how contemptuous he is of those who are not. You can trust him all the way.
Absolutely ... been reading him for 20 years ... razor-sharp, deeply principled, scrupulously honest & courageous ... and (like most truly impressive intellects & political activists) extremely modest, genuine humility. It's been a source of real satisfaction for me that the greatest analysts of the Left immediately saw through the Critical Theory Cult & its fundamental subversion of core Left, liberal & social democratic principles.
Pleased to say, incidentally, the automated transcript rendered "Ibram Kendi" as "Iraq Candy".
I love the name "Chomsky's Army" just wanted you to know!
We all endure the slings and arrows of Temptation after the honest people endure them without caving in they deserve respect.
This is how academic criticism should be. No sweet words no beating around the busy just straight up criticism. Loved the Professor and thank you for making this happen
Norman Finkelstein is one of the best sources of objective criticism when it comes to the dogma of what is America and also the vicious legacy and nature of Israel.
Both nations which Indians adore, for all the wrong reasons. Very well Done IGL to invite such brave and resilient people like Norman Finkelstein
Norman is an intellectual force in the world.
One of the few people who battled the Holocaust industrial complex and survived. His principled stand is something I wish I had the courage to follow
He survived in the sense that he is alive…but they effectively killed his career in academia!
@@michaeleendoxtader1633 indeed😓
You have reached the pinnacle with this guest. His intellect and wisdom are unmatched in North America He can demolish any of those that consider him their peer. Well done.
I hung on every word from this man. So grateful that you interviewed Norman Finkelstein and that I happened to see it, even 2 months later. It still resonates and I will look for his book now that it is November.
What's frustrating is TH-cam is suppressing Finkelstei's search results.
It's amazing how the professor lives a life of discomfort where he could easily have an AC but chooses not to.
Yes I noticed current videos of Norman are not available. I can only imagine he is being painted with the "self-hating" Jew accusations. It is not hard to cancel someone with a huge apparatus behind them.
When did he say it was discomfort?
He’s been hounded out of his professorship for outing a prominent jewish lawyer as a plagiarist and a fake in tge book mentioned early on. If i’m recalling correctly the lawyer was mentioned in an Epstein witness for a massage. He insisted everything happened with his underwear on at all times. If finkelstein chose to keep the event obscure I’ll do the same.
@@elmersbalm5219 I remember the debate quite well between him an Dershowitz on Democracy Now. It is on TH-cam somewhere. It's not just Dershowitz ,but I think the state of Israel has the whole notion of "Hasbara" - to silence critics of Israel. I can only imagine they act swiftly to silence him on platforms such as TH-cam. Norman almost always is interviewed over Israeli incursions into Gaza. During the last bombing of Islamic Jihad in Gaza a month ago, there was not one interview posted interviewing Norman.
@@Letheseus he doesn't need to say it. He's been completely tortured and crushed for his activism.
The abortion i had in my 20s was an easy choice for me. I’ve never regretted it in the two decades since. As for social stigma, nobody has a right to demonize anybody for making a decision about their body. Thank you for pushing back on Norman.
Thank you for this fascinating interview. This professor gives voice to many issues I have been noticing. I must read his book. Thanks again ji
I love him. Probably would never get along, I'm a young palestinian man from the "hood", but I love this man. he taught me a lot
So good to hear from you brother. Stay in touch, solidarity IGL.
@@IndiaGlobalLeft for sure bro, I subbed
Old Norman, as hard hitting as ever. Well done IGL.
How can this only have 2,000 views?
Amazing Amazing stuff!!!! Best interview yet
Finkelstain, never comprimising basic principles of truth searching and integrity.
OMG !!! how is it I've never herd of this man???? He seems legendary. I have never heard someone on the left speak this way.
Great Interview!
Great discussion with a great guest!
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Very insightful look at Norman. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Norman Finkelstein!, 👍
Much obliged.
Norman Finklestein is brilliant, funny, uncompromising and the farthest thing away from Queer theory (thank god) as you can get. Does anyone know if he and Adolph Reed collaborate or work together at all, especially on the idiocy of idpol, critique of the, Western left and the need for a class analysis?
Thank you Mr Finklestein and IGL.
Prof. Finkelstein, a career destroyed for being a Truth Teller and refusing to cower to the Lobby! A hero in his time!
I love Norman, sure - i have my disagreements with him, (especially with regards to his stances on the Palestinian one-state-solution and BDS), but agree with almost everything he talks/writes about with regards to free speech and "woke" cancel culture. I also love Tariq Ali too, he's quite a brilliant writer and leftist intellectual as well, and i read the message he sent to you about Verso books refusing to publish Norman's new book, it was pretty viscous. I am kinda stunned at how combative/harsh Tariq was, especially seeing as how they not only are both prominent leftists - but have also been on many a panel discussing Israel's apartheid and ongoing ethnic-cleansing of Palestinians, and the two seemed pretty tight. Now i haven't read Norman's book yet, (obviously - it hasn't been released yet), but i have a hard tim believing that it's offensive enough and/or incoherent enough to warrant such a snide response from Tariq. If it's anything like what Norman says when discussing woke cancel-culture and id-pol, i have a hard time believe that the book was "nonsensical" drivel, which was what Tariq accused it of being. I have a feeling that this has more to do with him simply strongly disagreeing with Norman's take, and is unfortunately allowing this influence his analysis of the quality of the book. Now, it cold come out and end up being the garbage fire that Ali asserts that it is, but i highly-highly doubt it! Which is why im pretty damn disappointed with Tariq on this whole back and forth. Great interview/discussion here though!
“No Kimberly….” Norman can be so funny sometimes
At least Norman is intellectually honest and is willing to criticize with equal opportunity.
Thanks for the interview. Norm is as curmudgeonly as ever.
Great discussion with a great guy. Loving this channel. Solidarity from the UK.
What a hero sounds and acts like.
His book is coming out "hopefully around November." I hope so as well, really want to read that sucker.
Amazing stuff. Bring more guests from the left. Solidarity
More in love w Norman Finkelstein than ever
Let’s be honest, there’s not enough truth and straight talking in this world for many people to make their way to Norman. But for those who do, whether it’s his TH-cam’s or his books, you’re gonna get one hell of an education.
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As Finkelstein has experienced himself, this kind of conversation is a strictly enforced taboo within the Western left. I'm glad there are people like your channel that discuss these inconvenient for many topics, keep it up
I can't wait to read that book.
I know it wasn't the topic of the video, but Norman is an expert on Israel. Gaza was in the headlines this week. The topic should have been addressed at least briefly due to it being timely. You have an expert right there. At least get a few thoughts on the matter. People who have channels need to do this. There are no other videos of Norman discussing what happened this last week.
Hi Steve, thank you so much for flagging the issue. We really apologize for missing this. We generally keep a sharp eye on current events, and place them in priority. If you have seen our videos with Vijay, we started off with Julian Assange, as the district court decision had just come in. By the same logic, we should have begun with Gaza. Since the schedule was fixed a month ago, and the agenda was the book, we kept it off the table. On hindsight, we consider it a mistake.
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Indians are Israeli allies so u can be sure they won’t bring it up..infact when Israel bombs Gaza, a majority of them applauds Israel in the public walls of most social media and news platforms
Great bro ..!
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Very good interview.
To each according to need and from each according to his/her abilities.
Luv Dr. F. . . .i am constitutionally incapable of not making an argument
The Amy Goodman bit was gold!
He’s hilarious
Us black people are a very very popular topic.
All the rage I hear
Sure. Problem is I can see no end in sight. Intellectuals and the man on the street are screaming at each other about us.
We're just getting on with daily chores.
He sounds quite bitter here about the ascensions of some so-called Black scholars to the point that he seems bigoted, calling most "stupid" but refers to those that surrounded Obama as "White Jewish geniuses." While he claims to know what he's talking about the truth is that many of the supposed facts used in his critiques of them are completely inaccurate and totally false. I once held Mr.Finkelstein in the highest regard but after this not so much.
Sadly I do not have your analytical explanation skills. Every word you wrote is correct.
@@m.r.browning2065 Excellently stated! 👍🏾
I used to think Cancel culture was ok because I conflated it with boycotts...Then I realised people are being cancelled for Free speech. After watching this interview, I just laugh at the fact that anybody and anything can be cancelled for whatever reason.
Is there a release date for this work?
Such a needed point of view on the radical left
Norman stays telling the truth
In America, the people who oppose reproductive rights for women also oppose any social spending to care for poor mothers or the children they will bear. It's not about concern for the children.
It is depressing to see more women, minorities and LGBTQ being just as greedy, militaristic and apathetic as the the old white males of the past instead of using their new influence to address economic inequalities. However, it's absurd to suggest that it's actually the people rehashing libertarian or conservative economic ideology under a cloak of being "anti-woke" who are being intellectually brave. Were David Duke, Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan or Phyllis Schlafly "courageous?" The hysterically exaggerated importance of cancel culture in social media and academia has only given traditional conservatives and a new opportunistic pundit class something to hide their class warfare behind.
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The women’s protest triggered the February revolution, which resulted in the abdication of the tsar.
The October revolution was the one in which the Bolsheviks outed Kerensky in a coup d’etat.
You are absolutely right. Thanks for the comment. Stay in touch. Solidarity IGL.
This term "woke left" seems inaccurate I would say because these people are not, in the political sense, Left unless the term Left has come to mean bourgeois worldview. The disseminators of cancel culture, identity politics, "wokism", etc. worldview want wealth and power and privileges themselves. They have no issue with the status quo so long as they can be integrated into it's higher income echelons. The promoters of these politics are ultimately hustlers for the one percent. These politics were developed as tools in the ruling class' toolbox to divide the working class against itself in ways that don't threaten ruling classes. Get working classes to view social reality through these reactionary lenses instead of a class based view and critique of current social relations.
The abortion issue should be analysed I would think in the context of the material conditions of women generally most all of whom today are proletarians. Social relations, class divisions and antagonisms, private property, etc. affect women's life possibilities generally. A pregnant young single working class female is a whole other question. And attaching a stigma to abortion doesn't seem right in terms of punishing or causing more anguish to the woman and perhaps shouldn't be reduced to an individual female question but a social question. Women generally and especially working class women are pressured by things not under their control to have or not have an abortion. There's no absolute moral argument vis-a-vis abortion and in today's society in the USA the ruling class have decided that abortion is not a constitutionally provided "right" and thus state government's will decide.
Thank you Norman Finkelstein for the analyses with details of these political trends that have been around for decades unbeknownst to but dividing the working class. Thanks to the host too.
"...present society is no solid crystal, but an organism capable of change, and is constantly changing." Karl Marx, Capital Volume One 1867 Preface to the First German Edition
I am all for abortion and women's rights, but working class women have many more reproductive rights than men do, and not more pressure
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Great discussion but I disagree with his argument on affirmative action and reparations. He says black people were "shafted", I think an appropriate word would have been enslaved and brutalized. I totally agree with his opinions of Obama.
Indeed, a lot of Finkelstein's characterizations are based on vulgar reinterpretations of concepts like reparations -- which is obviously about more than "cut the cheque" -- thus leaving him swinging at straw men.
But isn't Finkelstein merely cashing in on a fashionable subject " wokeism " and " cancel culture " ?
That's the feeling I'm getting here. Kinda disappointed from him
What do you mean? Cashing in? Are you asking if he is profiting by authoring a book on a subject about which he is qualified to write? What a pathetic ad hominem.
@@stevenhines5550 Yeah he is definitely cashing in. " Wokeism " is a subject loved by the right and centrist liberals. You are almost guaranteed to sell quite a few books writing hysterical stuff about " wokeism ''. Does Finkelstein think that Black people are too focused on race? Does he think we talk too much about slavery? He is a prick
The internet is both the driver and revealer of every moronic belief on earth.
incredible channel, how you only have 1k subscribers is beyond me
Hi Mike, So good to be in touch. That's so kind of you. I think we are growing at a reasonably good pace. Even though we started about a year ago, we have been consistent only since last August. That's one reason if you like. We can add that somewhat academic orientation of our work makes the show less penetrable to a large audience, specially in the Global South. With that said, we believe that people are supporting the content we are producing, and incredibly renowned scholars are joining us almost every week. We can expect to grow faster in the coming days. We also feel great that we have a small but incredibly well informed subscriber base with us.
Stay in touch (the most important thing).
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@@IndiaGlobalLeft It's a fine balance between academia and the working class. But any academic can speak in a manner that will engage the "common man", if they wish to. I truly believe that. So you should definitely not "dumb down" your content, just make it as accessible as possible. And that I think you are doing well. It's our mission to educate people, anyway
@@sheezle3 Thanks a lot for the love and support. Let's stay in touch. Solidarity, IGL.
The last intellectual left.
Nice. I see what you did there
So when he says Al Sharpton is a " lowlife " what does he mean?
Did'nt have time to check the video , maybe you can help me out ...talking about the roots of woke did he mention those of the Frankfurt school, most prominent feminist intellectuals, 80% of the boshlevicks were jew? Thanks in advance for yoir kind answer
Indian universities could benefit by inviting Dr. Finkelstein tp ljpld cpirses in the social sciences
Why is this edited to cut it up so we miss words?
How can you ask Norman a ten-minute question? Write them down my brotha....
Minimalist, but why?
Usually, I pay great attention to Norman Finkelstein, but I avoid any title or writing that uses the slang "woke".
The sound on this is no good.
7:00 kill the landlord LOL
The whole “woke politics” is not stupid. It is a right wing redirection of traditional left wing views. The ideas of identity, woke, cancel culture and political correctness allows the right wing to misrepresent and demonize the left and avoid the primary issue of the left which is class struggle.
The right wing now have all the straw men they need to switch the conversation and not address the terrible overlooked issue of the impoverished working class that have been systematically repressed and impoverished over the past 40 years. At this point 75+% of the US population life from paycheck to paycheck with less then $400 in the bank for an emergency. They have no savings, no retirement savings and no future as they find their bodies falling apart from years of exploited back breaking labor. These ppl are resorting to drugs and alcohol and suicide as their remedy to their destroyed lives.
This is what the right wing desperately try to deny and avoid. The next time you hear anyone talking about woke and identity politics then tell them to shut up and go to hell. Then remind them of what real leftism is about: restoring the destroyed lives of working ppl and the poor.
I agree. In Canada, where I am, we are flooded with ideas and perceptions coming out of the U.S., where bizzarely, they seem to like to define "the left" in turns of what the neo-liberal corporatist Democratic officially embraces, or as the whatever happens to be the current "political voter base" for the Dems, and "the right" in turns of the Republican party (and Libertarian party). "Conservatives" are "right wing" now, not only because the support the status quo, including defending the poverty and disadvantage of the poor and the wealth and unequal advantage of the waelthy, but now also because they embrace the now more "traditional values" such as the recognition of fundamental human rights, while the corporate "left" are radical in their abandonment of not only "Chrisrian values", but also in their abandonment of fundamental human rights (like the right to say whether or not you receive an experimental medical proceedure), and they seem to promote and legitimatize, all in the name of "freedom and liberty", every possible way capitalists could more fully exploit and control other people... or perhaps rather, those "moral relaxations" that they tend to support seem to tend to correspond to one's which extend the opportunities for capitalistic exploitation.
I don't know, maybe I'm just tongue wagging here, but I consider myself to basically be a "Christian socialist", and I tend to like watching Jimmy Dore videos, and I guess Jimmy really hates the Dems or something, he says he hates that they're deceitful hypocrites because they're just as corrupt and bad as the Repubs, and always only govern at the behest of the ruling, corporate backed super wealthy elite, but that their even worse than the GOP because they're supposed to be for the poor and middle class.
And anyway, he and Max Blumenthal go on about how all the crazy lefties were fully onboard with "mandatory vaccinations" (for a private, proprietary, for-profit big pharma designed patented, novel technology "vaccine" for which no long term impact data was available, and which had only been granted emergency use authorization because the pharma companies effectively control the regulatory agencies involved, and because "elected representatives" are all bought and on the take, etc). And of course even Noam Chomsky makes some rediculous statement to the effect that basically, people refusing to be injected with this experimental substance, (which was admitted to have been designed soley in order to create on ongoing profit stream for the Pharma corps.), didn't, in his opinion, deserve to retain individual rights and liberties.
And most of those willing to push back against the "mandatory jabs" seemed to be coming from the "religious (and conservative, and libertarian) right", i.e. significantly, Christians.
And similarly, there seems to be more push back against arming the Fascists in the Ukraine, and escalatiing to a war against Russia, from the "right wing", while the media zombified "left",
(who, accrding the American categorization, are those who still back the Democrats) tend to believe whatever the corporate media is saying, that tend to be tripple jabbed if not more, that still seem to believe that Russia helped Trump steal the election, that January 11 was far more terrifying threat to "our democracy" than September 11, that seem to think Putin is the devil incarnate and that the Ukraine was an innocent victim of unjustifiable Russian aggression, etc.
It seems all so upside down now, with the majority of the anti-war voices coming from "the right". And then of course you have the WEF, basically representing the Western owner/ruling class, supposedly backing a socialist transhumanist (and basically evil) agenda, who, through their corporations, have basically been dictating Western government policy, and spinning out an inverted reality propaganda narative.
Yeah, I guess I'm just ranting here. But getting back to my original point, it bothers me when "woke trans-gay activism", BLM, "identity politics", "defund the police" "radicalism", "pro-lockdown and pro-mandate" are all labelled with a broad brush as being "leftist", as well as the crazy "we stand with democratic Ukraine against authoritarian and fascist Russia, even if it means going to war with both Russia and China and even it means losing everthing", when, in reality, this is all media manufactured Disney alternate reality/fantasy, and it the Ukraine that is the authoritarian Fascists, and the idiotic proxy war against Russia is an insane neocon plan to conquer Russia so that our parasitc capitalist overlords (many of whom associate with the WEF) can seize control of its people, land and resources, and eventually, do the same to India and China and everywhere.
And our governments are all the pockets of our true ruling class through the WEF, and "the West" is thoroughly corrupted and slowly imploding.
Sorry, I can't seem to help myself here, I keep on ranting. I guess I feel very frustrated and annoyed. Anyway brother, all the very best. I expect better days are coming. Cheers, peace, love and God bless.
I just read the book and particularly the Obama and Kendi stuff is polemic aha. I loved it though.
Oh, Norman..
28:20 LMAOOO
interesting how he isn't enamored of BDS and the "settler colonial" framing.
Finklestein is so off the chain. LMFAO
Amy Goodmanm
I'm surprised he keeps talking about whether a fetus is 'alive' or not. Aren't bacteria alive? Who cares?
I think he said, a life, which has different implications in American English (IE meaning it is a human)
@@charleswood2182 if all life matters, what about bacteria?
@@Zatzzo According to me, it's a woman's right to get an abortion. Who'll raise the kid if the mother didn't even want them? These "defenders of life" will not let a migrant in this country but they want to "save" this human life? Foh! It's tragic no doubt that a life had to die but that's the best course if the woman doesn't want the child. There are enough abused and ignored kids in the world. They can use all their anecdotes but they aren't -touching- coming anywhere near that baby AFTER it's born but before birth, they'll defend it as if it's their child.
All well and good, just sad this is what he chooses to focus on ATM. I thought your questions were good though.
Tariq Ali, Amy Goodman: is there anyone on the left who Finkelstein is still on good terms with? And I know that Tariq Ali comes from a successful family, but does he really 'own half of Pakistan'?
He's on good terms with black left
I would argue that Amy Goodman is no longer on the left. As an example, look how she promoted the Russia-gate farce. See, e.g., Aaron Mate’s critique of Amy or especially Jimmy Dore’s.
are they really leftists when they support US imperialism
Like Sammy Davis and the Rat Pack ?
If Norman were to compare the amount of possessions he has amassed with the possessions that the Mahatma maintained, he would realize he is not living the way Gandhi did, so he might as well buy a fan -- Gandhi would have laughed at his foolishness.
Gandhi could rely on millions to ensure his material survival, mouthpiece. Finkelstein cannot. Too bad you can't buy intelligence.
As much as I love Norm and agree with him 3 out of 4 times, there is no woman question. Women are in no way analogous to black people in US history. Both men and women face sexism in various and differing ways, but women don't have it worse
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cool: en[]wikipedia[]org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day#cite_note-10