PLZ Don't do THIS on the Dance Floor - Baila Productions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2017
- Just a bit of common sense on the dance floor goes a long way ;)
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That's right. A good leader will lead. A great leader will be able to gauge the follower's level and NOT try to lead her into difficult or moves that are above the follower's level.
well said !!!
OMG. That was hilarious. Your Russian is very good ;)
Love this. Smooth sailing never made a great sailor. My instructor said to me the best dancer is not the one who can dance well with an equally talented dancer, a great dancer is one who can dance with anyone on any skill level, who can adapt to the challenge and make it fun.
+Cleo Truffle this is so very well said ;) the adaptation process and fun part is what we practice and preach. Thanks for your comment;)
Yeah right ! and how many guys are there like that around?
You're Russian us awesome, I nearly fell on the floor from laughing 😘
and this is how I met my husband. it was my first time going to a salsa social. I didn't know how to dance salsa I just wanted to get a taste of what it's like before signing up. what a disaster. all the guys were too aggressive swinging me, one even elbowed me in the mouth by accident making me bleed. I told them all I was new and they just didn't care. after that I sat down and felt like salsa wasn't for me. that's when a new guy I had not seen before started talking to me and I told him my sad situation he asked if I'd like to dance with him. I thought well I guess I'll give it one more shot. he officially became my teacher. everytime I'd mess up we would laugh and start over. he was so patient so kind so funny. After that he kept asking me again and again if I wanted to dance with him and I was always up for it. here were are five years later and counting. he was already an advanced salsa dancer today I consider myself also advanced. so yes guys take this advice seriously! you just never know.
He’s a true gentleman... thanks for sharing your story... if everyone would behave like him our community would be so much better in many ways
I loved your story. I'm afraid I am (and from now on, I was) one of those guys, swinging and spinning so hard all the ladies without paying any mind if they now the move or not. Now I see I am (was) wrong. Really, thanks. I'll change my attitude. Thnx!
Cher Ilias, je suis impressionné par tous ces talents que je découvre à chaque vidéo !
Merci de regarder nos clips c’est apprécié;)
I simply love this guy
I love your videos! Thank you for posting.
Important info. Loved the various languages.
I challenge followers a little bit by throwing in a figure that I think is difficult but doable for them now and then. I will give a tip like "go under my arm there" or "walk around me at the end" but not correct them on their technique or mistakes, hope that's not considered rude.
And if something doesn't work I try it two or three times at the most.
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TEACH MEN SOME MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it.
sometimes when a guy does a move that is new to me i don't do it right, then he does it again, and i still don't do it right caz i don't know what is the right move in the first place! so i get pissed and stop, telling him its either you show me how to do it or skip and do another move.
guys don't repeat the same move over and over hoping that your partner will get it right by herself.
*Please skip it, or if she asked you to show her, show her*
Agreed
Totally agree with you! By the way, your Chinese pronunciation is good!
Love that you did the Parisian accent too 😂
Yes indeed, good advice!
Sooo true...👍👍👍
I love this guy :)
So true
Really liked the Russian version: 'Это очень нехорошо! Ну прекрати так делать! Ну пожалуйста. Что это такое?! " 8-)
It be great if you have a video for the Women because they sometimes try to teach on the social dance floor as well. Worse, I even see them giving instruction when they are dead wrong. For example, last night, I tried to do a simple hair comb on a lady on the one (dancing on1) as she is breaking back and she tried to turn which any good salsa dance knows is wrong (girls don't turn on the 1, when it's an obvious hair comb about the head)...I didn't say anyting but she then tells me how worng I was as we're dancing!!
Basics first rhythm next remember if you asked her then let her follow as best she can .... it’s up to you to make her for the whole song. Then next time you’ll know.... or watch her on the dance floor first then ask her.
Why are you directing this towards only male salsa dancers? Women also do this. Agree, have fun and never correct on the social dance floor but this goes for everyone, both leader and follower!
Thanks for your question... because men tend to do this way more than ladies:) in my 20 years of social dancing i was never stopped by a lady on the dance floor for corrections i never asked... when i go out dancing i always see at least one guy doing this. For some bizarre reason because guys lead they might feel they are in a teacher position.. im not againts feedback but more againts breaking the fun and flow... i think theres a place and time for everything
Agree that Men are more often the culprit of giving advice on the dance floor. But the reason you personally don't see Women do it, is probably because you're a expert dance instructor who probably rarely makes mistakes. You likely have a ton of different strategies for making an adjustment to a pattern when the girl doesn't do what you expect. Now take a leader who only has a 1-5 yrs of experience, they know a lot of moves but maybe they're timing is sometimes off or can't pick up on the subtle clues that a move isn't going to work until it's too late. I've seen girls stop me in the middle of the dance and tell me what I did wrong or that my timing was off (there's ways to let the leader know to slow down or speed up or get back on the 1 without stopping or making the leader feel like a loser). Just last week I was dancing w/ a girl who didn't pick up on a simple hair-comb and tried to turn (as she was moving back on the 1, in LA on1 salsa), not only did she stop dancing (messed up the flow) but she correct me when she was dead wrong. I of course didn't tell her anything, we finished the dance and I made sure not to do any hair combs w/ her because obviously she's probably never been trained in that move. Point is that this happens a lot more often to Men (who are in that beginner to intermediate phase) than you realize.
BTW, I do want to say I'm a fan of your channel. You have some good advice, I would just like to see some more balance in your videos and not put all the pressure on the man. For example, I'd like to see a video on how ladies can help keep the leader "on time" without stopping the dance in a friendly positive way because the reality is they also must share responsibility in keeping "on beat" and not expect the guy to do everything.
Thanks for your feedback;) Belinda and I try to cover a bunch of experiences we went thru... trust me we have no agenda in picking which of the 2 sexes when we adress a situation.... also most of our subjects come from comments, complaints or questions from our students... we had sooo many lady students telling us about guys corrected them but not a lot of guys came with this issue in particular...( one common one is that some gave the guy attitude when they missed a move ) ... theres a bunch on each side...in my experience that this perticular situation come mostly from men... from reading you It looks like youre not a compulsive corrector;) also theres always a risk in correcting someone by giving them a bad correction... One reason i dont like correcting on the dance floor is that i like to use the social dance floor as grounds to test the precision of my lead... so if the move didnt work 2 options possible...i wasnt clear enough or i missread the capacity and skill of my partner in this case next step rollback the level of my moves to have my partner relax... if theres too many misses my partner might stress out... and then make even more mistakes.
Also, Theres a bunch of lady situations we covered for exemple we encouraged our ladies to go out and ask guys to dance... we put a bit of pressure on them too;) and theres more in the pipeline... that said your timing suggestion is a great one i will put it our todo list for next couple of vids ...thanks for taking the time to write us in such great detail and thanks watching our vids i really appreciate it;)
Dear Ilias, just discovered your channel, very funny and instructive in the same time ! Just one question: from your name I gather you are Greek or of Greek origin? I was expecting the Greek phrase to pop up, but no ! Utterly disappointed... Can you please explain? Thanks and keep up the great videos !
I agree, don't correct on the dance floor. However, I don't feel that the guy needs to apologize because a woman makes mistakes or is not a good dancer. As a leader, I always try to access the woman's level of dance and that's where I will stay. Usually, maturity in a dancer dictates how a good, seasoned leader will lead ladies of all levels.
Well put;) in my case I use a quick sorry if i see that they assume its their fault... cause when they figure out that im a teacher it adds a bit more pressure for some reason... when some moves goes down the tubes i also sometimes add im a professionnal so all this should work in theory ;) all these little things said are just to keep us flowing...for some reason most think that because im a teacher its automatically their fault...what im not allowed to make mistakes lol ....finally your last sentence sums up what i keep repeating to all my students... thanks for writing and great points;)
Well there are exceptions. If it's your dancing partner which you know very well I see no problem with correcting. Sometimes you try to practice new things on the dance floor.
Ah ha... last week I did his NO NO! Don’t ask ladies around the one who says NO! Well last nite I ask the first girl she says no so I asked the next lady to her. Her friend looks at her who said no but she decided to dance with me. I realized that the girls are in the male part of things “now-a-days”, I guess she wanted her as a lesbian affair. Too bad I’m man and told her male/lady friend what she is missing in dance between a man and a woman. Changing times so ask anyways .... you’ll find out who’s leading who.✌🏼
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Another important thing: Men please, do NOT take up salsa so that you can find a girlfriend. There is nothing more creepy or gringey than those odd guys who always treat you like a possible date every time you interract or dance with them. Women can sense these men even when they say nothing. Only start salsa because you like the culture, the spirit and the music and because you have an actual connection with it. It's really uncomfortable how many creeps see the latin dance scene as a dating space.
George Lopez?
In theory this is all good but it is all dance class speak..guys should do this, guys should do that, guys should not do this, guys should not do that bla bla bla. And what about what women should do or not do? It might be bad manners and etiquette to teach a stranger on the dance floor but what if the partner is a liability on the dance floor. They need to be corrected if there is potential to cause harm or injury to themselves or others because her technique is at fault and that said technical fault is a bad habit. Some dancers pick up annoying mannerisms that can also lead to similar dangers on the dancefloor...and then there are those who just have annoying mannerisms when they dance.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Stuart. This is certaintly not all class speak... its more about our experience in the salsa social world.... and the tons of feedback we received over the years from our students and friends. We believe social dancing should be fun and relaxed... correcting someone on the dance floor has a huge chance of stopping the flow of things. if someone wants to be corrected dance classes with a respectable teacher is the way to go... i see so many people correcting and giving actual bad corrections which actually doesnt help at all. im not saying not to drop some feedback if the person asks but to actually stop during a song and start to coach someone that never asked anything is a no go in our books! Have a great day and thanks for watching.
So... Stop dancing with the girl you don't have fun dancing. You can menage anybody for one dance, and if she is not ''fun'', stop dancing with her. This aproach certainly helped me not to engage in pointless discussions.