Back in the 90's I remember watching a report of an American producing his own fuel using a mirror array in the desert. He was producing about a gallon of fuel a day. I was impressed by the innovation and it's good to see that the idea is being taken a bit more seriously now rather than being seen as a novelty news story. Even if it is only 5% efficient you can store it in a tank for a rainy day.
I'm curious how this would have any value since "They" are banning all combustion devices. Certainly if you live on your own 1000 acres and you need some fuel for an old tractor, it would work! But I don't see a commercial entity undertaking an expensive R&D project for this because there's no commercial market for the fuel, or wont be soon.
I proposed something very similar way back in the early 1970's when North sea gas was starting when in experiments found that magnified sunlight could be used to reform natural gas using sunlight and a catalyst and I seem to remember that CO2 and Water for fuel was invented by the Australian Military during or just after WW2. This could be worth a look as it was over 50 years ago and from memory.
YES YES YES more people need to know about this approach. Did you hear about the new CSIRO process to make ammonia out of water and a lithium catalyst, it’s a 3 pass process
Pretty amazing process! In a general sense, nature roughly does the same thing with photosynthesis. It takes water and carbon dioxide from the air and using solar energy converts them to cellulose which can be burned as a fuel.
Isn't this what Porsche and Siemens are doing in Chile? Using wind power to run the plant. It's making all of Porsche's fuel for racing. Bit expensive at the moment but...
You are correct. It is a matter of economics. It is getting more interesting in places like Australia where vast deployment of solar is making times where the power company will pay you to use electricity. When negative cost of energy is available the economics of making jet fuel is very different because efficiency is not important, just capital cost of the equipment and operation cost. A similar approach is also underway for making ammonia for both fuel and fertilizer.
15 years ago they paid well for your excess power from solar panels ,,,now your lucky to get 5 cents per KW that they then sell to people like me who have no solar panels, I think I pay 28 cents per KW,,,So not as good as your led to believe ,,
@@keithhowell4138 I think you misunderstood. I was not talking about what they pay for your solar power, but how much they pay you to take the power when there is too much being generated.
@@Ken00001010 if they have too much power they don’t pay anybody to use it,,that would be great if they did ,but all they care about is profit ,,nobody here gets discounted or free power nor are they paid to use power.
Great channels! I love learning from your videos. If Iron oxide can be used to produce syngas, it would be awesome to pair it with an iron powder burning furnace. The exhaust of the furnace could be used to produce syngas and, maybe, the heat from the furnace could be used in that reaction as well. Thanks for all the inspiration!
I do believe that we might be better off to increase the production of electricity by wind and solar (both large wind-parks / PV installations as well as decentralized roof mounted in cities) to maximize the supply of it. That can than be used better for either electrical direct conversion or for high temperature processes hydrogen production. The more electricity we produce (renewable) the less expensive it will get - scale effects are awesome.
It is a wonderful idea. Sadly the people who own the grids and turbines and panels, are motivated by profit alone. When is the last time you saw electricity prices fall? The only only true solution is to go offgrid.
i would suggest maybe water split by radio active decay to make hydrogen fuel is pretty good also. But thorium conversion to uranium 233 for nuclear fuel is a quite a bit better in energy storage and if you could use some part of that cycle to run a generator or fuel cell then that would last about 150 to 300 years of power for your home if radolisis is practical. But fission in molten salt reactors could be miniaturized. Though I don't think we will see a nuclear battery powered car anytime soon.
That is such good news! If I heard right, they are producing kerosene from 15kW solar collector. That is around 80kWh of solar per day. Kerosene contains 10.35kWh per litre, so with an efficiency of around 4%, means they can produce 3.2kWh of energy as kerosene or around 0.3L each day. At 20% efficiency that would mean around 1.2L per day from a 15kW solar collector. We will need to scale this up to the point where we satisfy all the fossil fuel needs of the world and then have excess production that we can pump back into oil wells to start removing the excess CO2 from the air. So we have the technology, just needs massive scaling. Question is; is the current capitalist system capable of doing this in the time required to avoid catastrophic climate change?
The exhaust gas temperature of a gasoline engine can be driven up to 1200°f if you run it lean. Stick a catalyst in there and turn your exhaust back into fuel. Syngas combustion exhaust is water and CO2 right?
Back in the 90's I remember watching a report of an American producing his own fuel using a mirror array in the desert. He was producing about a gallon of fuel a day. I was impressed by the innovation and it's good to see that the idea is being taken a bit more seriously now rather than being seen as a novelty news story. Even if it is only 5% efficient you can store it in a tank for a rainy day.
I'm curious how this would have any value since "They" are banning all combustion devices. Certainly if you live on your own 1000 acres and you need some fuel for an old tractor, it would work! But I don't see a commercial entity undertaking an expensive R&D project for this because there's no commercial market for the fuel, or wont be soon.
Jet fuel straight fron the air, sounds like science fiction ❤
I proposed something very similar way back in the early 1970's when North sea gas was starting when in experiments found that magnified sunlight could be used to reform natural gas using sunlight and a catalyst and I seem to remember that CO2 and Water for fuel was invented by the Australian Military during or just after WW2. This could be worth a look as it was over 50 years ago and from memory.
YES YES YES more people need to know about this approach. Did you hear about the new CSIRO process to make ammonia out of water and a lithium catalyst, it’s a 3 pass process
This is the efuels theory. But at 4% or 20% our cars would be to expensive to drive. It might work for aircraft but ticket prices would be x4.
Pretty amazing process! In a general sense, nature roughly does the same thing with photosynthesis. It takes water and carbon dioxide from the air and using solar energy converts them to cellulose which can be burned as a fuel.
The only problem it's not reversible, and you have to plant more plants than you burn to sustain
Isn't this what Porsche and Siemens are doing in Chile? Using wind power to run the plant. It's making all of Porsche's fuel for racing. Bit expensive at the moment but...
If a fraction of the money that's been invested in other green R&D had been invested in this year's ago we might have carbon neutral energy now.
Apparently you can also make syngas via electric arc in sugar water as per patent AU684908B2.
Awesome talk, thanks!
You are correct. It is a matter of economics. It is getting more interesting in places like Australia where vast deployment of solar is making times where the power company will pay you to use electricity. When negative cost of energy is available the economics of making jet fuel is very different because efficiency is not important, just capital cost of the equipment and operation cost. A similar approach is also underway for making ammonia for both fuel and fertilizer.
15 years ago they paid well for your excess power from solar panels ,,,now your lucky to get 5 cents per KW that they then sell to people like me who have no solar panels, I think I pay 28 cents per KW,,,So not as good as your led to believe ,,
@@keithhowell4138 I think you misunderstood. I was not talking about what they pay for your solar power, but how much they pay you to take the power when there is too much being generated.
@@Ken00001010what.
@@danp1224 Do a lookup on "negative power prices."
@@Ken00001010 if they have too much power they don’t pay anybody to use it,,that would be great if they did ,but all they care about is profit ,,nobody here gets discounted or free power nor are they paid to use power.
Fascinating 👍
The petroleum industry saved the whales by providing cheaper better lighting oil.
Great channels! I love learning from your videos. If Iron oxide can be used to produce syngas, it would be awesome to pair it with an iron powder burning furnace. The exhaust of the furnace could be used to produce syngas and, maybe, the heat from the furnace could be used in that reaction as well. Thanks for all the inspiration!
"It's only 4% efficient"
producing high-grade heat for seasonal thermal storage. Now if only the sun shone a lot in northern latitudes.
My guess is we will see a lot of tech and processes being “rediscovered” and developed now that fossil fuel industries are on the back foot.
I do believe that we might be better off to increase the production of electricity by wind and solar (both large wind-parks / PV installations as well as decentralized roof mounted in cities) to maximize the supply of it.
That can than be used better for either electrical direct conversion or for high temperature processes hydrogen production.
The more electricity we produce (renewable) the less expensive it will get - scale effects are awesome.
It is a wonderful idea. Sadly the people who own the grids and turbines and panels, are motivated by profit alone. When is the last time you saw electricity prices fall? The only only true solution is to go offgrid.
the oil conglomerates will love this
This was being done in the 1930s. In Germany I recall.
You could use the byproduct from your iron powder furnace to produce jet fuel 😂 THAT'S WILD!!! 😳👍
Hmmm. We have the chemistry to make a petrol fuel cell. Strip off the electrons directly and get considerably higher efficiencies.
i would suggest maybe water split by radio active decay to make hydrogen fuel is pretty good also. But thorium conversion to uranium 233 for nuclear fuel is a quite a bit better in energy storage and if you could use some part of that cycle to run a generator or fuel cell then that would last about 150 to 300 years of power for your home if radolisis is practical. But fission in molten salt reactors could be miniaturized. Though I don't think we will see a nuclear battery powered car anytime soon.
You mentioned your love for open access journals, do you know about the Russian approach to open science, Sci Hub?
That is such good news!
If I heard right, they are producing kerosene from 15kW solar collector. That is around 80kWh of solar per day. Kerosene contains 10.35kWh per litre, so with an efficiency of around 4%, means they can produce 3.2kWh of energy as kerosene or around 0.3L each day.
At 20% efficiency that would mean around 1.2L per day from a 15kW solar collector.
We will need to scale this up to the point where we satisfy all the fossil fuel needs of the world and then have excess production that we can pump back into oil wells to start removing the excess CO2 from the air.
So we have the technology, just needs massive scaling. Question is; is the current capitalist system capable of doing this in the time required to avoid catastrophic climate change?
if you get the renewable energy for nothing then the efficiency is less relevant and the waste heat can be repurposed.
The exhaust gas temperature of a gasoline engine can be driven up to 1200°f if you run it lean. Stick a catalyst in there and turn your exhaust back into fuel. Syngas combustion exhaust is water and CO2 right?
Gud vid Bob.
You do not even need solar, a deep well geothermal plant can do the same thing 24 hours a day.
Solar to petrol!
People in India are combining hydrogen and carbon dioxide to make fuel for automobiles. A vehicle runs just like it was gasoline.
If it's carbon neutral, does that make it perpetual?
Hmmm, mushrooms exhale CO2. Could a mushroom production facility power itself using its own exhaust? Perspiring minds want to know!
Isn't it easier to turn wood into petrol?
Carbon Monoxide a bit dodgy
Could you run an engine on syngas by heating cerium oxide with that same engine? If you could then why not run a car on water?
Heresy
People don’t understand about energy density. Your heresy is not heretical at all.
Generate electricity from burning coal and convert the C02 into motor fuel.
If you happen to have access to an active volcano...
By the time the production gets to 20% batteries will have increased in efficiency and be available for use in long range aircraft.
Batteries will .Never. be used for long-range aircraft, shipping, rail, or anything else. Write that down and remember it.