TJ belly is rarely an issue due to how short the wheel base is. 3" suspension and 1" body is money on a TJ. I glide over stuff 4 doors get turtled on. I do have a SYE of course.
Hey Derek , good info there my friend. I run 3.5 springs and a 1'' body lift ( coming out this spring ) on my TJ with a SYE and Fox shocks . It has been a great combo for me , but I don't do any crazy off roading anymore . I am removing my body lift this spring to lower the center of gravity a little. I also run a Barnes flat belly skid and 1'' motor mount lift with Adams driveshafts. Take care sir and looking forward to you new build.
good video man. Too many youtubers out there on tons, 40s and an LS. Makes the new off-roaders think you have to do that to wheel. I've been on stock suspension with a 2" spacer, and now a 2" old man emu spring with adjustable control arms. 05 lj. it's been an awesome rig. Currently building dana 60s but that's because i legitimately feel like i want them to take the next step. and add old man emu to your list of springs. they're great! Get out there and wheel!!
You definitely want to look/invest in an SYE, that driveline looks like it was ready to pop out of the Xfer case. You dont need to go crazy buying a new driveline off the bat. Just find a local junkyard and pull an XJ front driveshaft and have it cut down. Then when you have the coin for a new one, you will have a good spare.
currently im on 31.5's No lift and it wheels alright....With that said i do plan on doing a Savvy tummy tuck 1.25" Body lift 1" MML And after all that i may keep my stock suspension run a spacer upfront since my Front got sagged a bit after my winch&plate ! Just speculation i feel like for my daily id like to keep it 3 inches total lift but theres seems to be more options for longer travel shocks with a 3" Coil lift ! .......Im kinda hesistant but i feel like the 3" Coil & 1.25" Body lift will do me good on the street with some stiffer sway bars Like an ORO Front dual rate bar for example and a Hellwig rear ? but also on the trails it could be a badass little rock crawler ! I still got ideas but ill figure something out and make em to life !
what is the overall consensus on lifting a TJ? is it better to do a 2" spring lift + 1" body...or just go for a 3" spring lift? I'm assuming the 2" spring lift is easier on the geometry, and the 1" body would allow more room for a tummy tuck. mainly just wondering if springs + body is better/worse than springs only? I'm mainly concerned with respect to keep it essentially a Low Center of Gravity build.
I’m of the opinion 2” coils + 1” BL. Yes, precisely, better for geometry! In most cases you can get away with stock control arms and no SYE. You can of course go wild, but it’s budget friendly. Easy to fine tune, and rides great!
Rubicon Express monotubes which are made by Bilstein. I can grab the part numbers when we are back from spring break. My rear doesn’t flex that well, I am thinking the rears might be a tad short.
@@1923ford Hi Kevin, thanks for your comment! So that particular belly skid is a Teraflex belly up. I believe it is designed to work with their long arm kit but also works without. It was a really nice skid, no issues with it at all. I ran the factory trans mount, and with a body lift i didn’t have any clearance issues. Sadly I already had the body lift on, so I’m unsure if that setup would work without the BL. Hope that helps!
@@1923fordIf you have a Rubicon, I would say yes go right to the BL. If not, personally I’d try it without the BL first and see if you need it. The 231 is quite a bit smaller than the 241.
Thanks Tim! Well, I can tell you they were Rubicon Express Monotubes. I do happen to have a picture of a front shock - RXJ703B, but I am afraid I don't have information on the rear. I will do a little googling later and see if I can find it for you. Thanks for your comment, glad to be of some help!
Sounds sweet! Yeah, I suppose I neglected to mention you could fit a 31 inch tire on a 2 inch lift and have all kinds of room for activities! Thank you for your comment!
There isn't "that" many folks that make the 2", the most you hear is about RK and OME. In the 3-4" range you hear either RK or Metal Cloak, as they are both progressive rate coil. Obviously there are others, but I feel like the progressive rate springs are the future. I've been a RK customer for something like 17 years and they've never let me down. Take that for what it's worth though.
@@1923ford I think some depends on the shock, but “generally” I run monotubes and thus I’d say it rides just as well. The progressive springs are great. Mine rides better than several of my buddies on 4” kits. My white LJ has leftover Rough Country shocks and I would still put it against a stock LJ.
Cool! I haven't had the good luck you've had evidently. I do have a thought provoking question for you: ANY new 4" lift you see comes with a transfer case drop. Why do you think that is? Thanks
@@ronbitzer6587 They were Rubicon Express Monotubes(bilsteins). The fronts are RXJ703B, which is a 23.50 extended and a 14.8 collapsed, for a 8.6” travel. I’ll have to do some digging on the rears. Thank you!
@@xxshooterxxdm Awesome! Do you have a TJ or LJ? What size tires? Any other mods? Do you have Instagram by chance - I would love to see pictures! Take care!
With the absolute crappy reliability of jeep, do you honestly think it's a good idea to put more stress on engines and transmission, by putting bigger tires on them .
I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences! I’ve owned 89 Jeeps and so far haven’t experienced any issues aside from wear and tear items. The Blue Jeep pictured has 300k miles. Thanks for your comment! Take care.
@bushtrash2286 Wear and tear items: brakes, steering pumps, alternators, nothing major. Sure I have bought jeeps with bad transmissions and engines but never personally had those break. They are easily fixable, I stick to 97-06.
@bushtrash2286 If I could specifically recommend the 03-06, 4.0 strait 6, Dana 44 rear axle, auto or manual are solid choices. The 4.0 is pretty well bullet proof! Good luck!
TJ belly is rarely an issue due to how short the wheel base is. 3" suspension and 1" body is money on a TJ. I glide over stuff 4 doors get turtled on. I do have a SYE of course.
Bang for the buck. I think you have a point. Other aspects maybe not so much but this is the internet and everybody's got an opinion. Nice jeep
True! This is what has worked for me a bunch of times, but I recognize it isn’t for everyone - all good! Thanks for your comment!
I'd have gone a similar route if I didn't piece together a long arm kit for che@p. Don't trust that stock shaft on 37's if you wheel hard
@travisandrewhale oh for sure! Front shafts are on the short list! I’d love to see your Jeep, are you on instagram?
Hey Derek , good info there my friend. I run 3.5 springs and a 1'' body lift ( coming out this spring ) on my TJ with a SYE and Fox shocks . It has been a great combo for me , but I don't do any crazy off roading anymore . I am removing my body lift this spring to lower the center of gravity a little. I also run a Barnes flat belly skid and 1'' motor mount lift with Adams driveshafts. Take care sir and looking forward to you new build.
Sounds like a pretty great setup to me! Good to hear from you bud! Thanks for your support!!
With the tummy tuck and motor mount lift idk if the body will fit at factory height anymore
good video man. Too many youtubers out there on tons, 40s and an LS. Makes the new off-roaders think you have to do that to wheel. I've been on stock suspension with a 2" spacer, and now a 2" old man emu spring with adjustable control arms. 05 lj. it's been an awesome rig. Currently building dana 60s but that's because i legitimately feel like i want them to take the next step. and add old man emu to your list of springs. they're great! Get out there and wheel!!
You definitely want to look/invest in an SYE, that driveline looks like it was ready to pop out of the Xfer case. You dont need to go crazy buying a new driveline off the bat. Just find a local junkyard and pull an XJ front driveshaft and have it cut down. Then when you have the coin for a new one, you will have a good spare.
I run 33's on my TJ with stock suspension (except 0.750" hockey pucks) and no issues.
I like the looks of stock stance and full wheel wells.
The web wheelers will tell you that’s not possible! lol. I love it! I’m a big fan of the LCG trend personally! Thanks for your comment!
Best mall crawler setup out there
Gotta get over speed bumps in style!
currently im on 31.5's No lift and it wheels alright....With that said i do plan on doing a Savvy tummy tuck 1.25" Body lift 1" MML And after all that i may keep my stock suspension run a spacer upfront since my Front got sagged a bit after my winch&plate !
Just speculation i feel like for my daily id like to keep it 3 inches total lift but theres seems to be more options for longer travel shocks with a 3" Coil lift ! .......Im kinda hesistant but i feel like the 3" Coil & 1.25" Body lift will do me good on the street with some stiffer sway bars Like an ORO Front dual rate bar for example and a Hellwig rear ? but also on the trails it could be a badass little rock crawler ! I still got ideas but ill figure something out and make em to life !
Sounds like it will be a solid setup!
what is the overall consensus on lifting a TJ? is it better to do a 2" spring lift + 1" body...or just go for a 3" spring lift? I'm assuming the 2" spring lift is easier on the geometry, and the 1" body would allow more room for a tummy tuck. mainly just wondering if springs + body is better/worse than springs only? I'm mainly concerned with respect to keep it essentially a Low Center of Gravity build.
I’m of the opinion 2” coils + 1” BL. Yes, precisely, better for geometry! In most cases you can get away with stock control arms and no SYE. You can of course go wild, but it’s budget friendly. Easy to fine tune, and rides great!
What shocks are you using? I’m thinking of lcg on my LJ but shock travel is limited. Yours looks decent wondering what actual shocks you are using.
Rubicon Express monotubes which are made by Bilstein. I can grab the part numbers when we are back from spring break. My rear doesn’t flex that well, I am thinking the rears might be a tad short.
Awesome thanks for the info. I notice the rock krawler shocks have over 9 inches or travel so that might be the way to go.
BDS has a 2" coil, thats what I use
Can you give some information on the tummy tuck.
@@1923ford Hi Kevin, thanks for your comment! So that particular belly skid is a Teraflex belly up. I believe it is designed to work with their long arm kit but also works without. It was a really nice skid, no issues with it at all. I ran the factory trans mount, and with a body lift i didn’t have any clearance issues. Sadly I already had the body lift on, so I’m unsure if that setup would work without the BL. Hope that helps!
Would you recommend the 1” body lift be installed with the tummy tuck?
@@1923fordIf you have a Rubicon, I would say yes go right to the BL. If not, personally I’d try it without the BL first and see if you need it. The 231 is quite a bit smaller than the 241.
Would you mind letting me know what shocks you are using and their respective P/N? Thank you for your comments, suggestions and video.
Thanks Tim! Well, I can tell you they were Rubicon Express Monotubes. I do happen to have a picture of a front shock - RXJ703B, but I am afraid I don't have information on the rear. I will do a little googling later and see if I can find it for you. Thanks for your comment, glad to be of some help!
I also did some checking with RE and was told the rears are their RXJ704B. Thanks for your help.
Did you cut the rear to move up the wheel well
Yessir! You can cut a good bit out of the wheel wells on an LJ! One of my other videos documents it if you’d like to check it out! Thanks, take care!
Lift until you get 30° breakover. That's it.
06 wrangler x 8k miles. Put a 2 inch bds fox shocks 31 bfg k02 thing is soo sweet. I’m not into the huge tires
Sounds sweet! Yeah, I suppose I neglected to mention you could fit a 31 inch tire on a 2 inch lift and have all kinds of room for activities! Thank you for your comment!
How do people like the Rock Krawler Springs compared to others?
There isn't "that" many folks that make the 2", the most you hear is about RK and OME. In the 3-4" range you hear either RK or Metal Cloak, as they are both progressive rate coil. Obviously there are others, but I feel like the progressive rate springs are the future. I've been a RK customer for something like 17 years and they've never let me down. Take that for what it's worth though.
@@ElevatedJeeps Do the RK progressive springs ride about the same as stock? Stiffer? Softer? Thank you.
@@1923ford I think some depends on the shock, but “generally” I run monotubes and thus I’d say it rides just as well. The progressive springs are great. Mine rides better than several of my buddies on 4” kits. My white LJ has leftover Rough Country shocks and I would still put it against a stock LJ.
Don’t know what ur talking about. I have a tj. On 35s. 4 inch life. T case drop. No slip. And works just fine
Cool! I haven't had the good luck you've had evidently. I do have a thought provoking question for you: ANY new 4" lift you see comes with a transfer case drop. Why do you think that is? Thanks
Which shocks are you running on blue? Travel/compressed/extended.
@@ronbitzer6587 They were Rubicon Express Monotubes(bilsteins). The fronts are RXJ703B, which is a 23.50 extended and a 14.8 collapsed, for a 8.6” travel. I’ll have to do some digging on the rears. Thank you!
OME makes a 2" coil.
BDS does too come to think about it
Somebody make a duel rate 2'' coil just can't remember who
@jasontaylor9871 RockKrawler I “think” is the only progressive rate 2” TJ coils.(shown). All the others I believe are just regular coils.
What axles you running
Hi David! The blue LJ has Dana 44’s, the white LJ has the factory D30/44. Thanks for your comment
@@ElevatedJeeps my 06 is currently running a zone 3 in lift with core 4x4 adjustable and a slip yoke kit
@@xxshooterxxdm Awesome! Do you have a TJ or LJ? What size tires? Any other mods? Do you have Instagram by chance - I would love to see pictures! Take care!
I'm running maxis rz 32 for the time
With the absolute crappy reliability of jeep, do you honestly think it's a good idea to put more stress on engines and transmission, by putting bigger tires on them .
I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences! I’ve owned 89 Jeeps and so far haven’t experienced any issues aside from wear and tear items. The Blue Jeep pictured has 300k miles. Thanks for your comment! Take care.
@@ElevatedJeeps you have 89 jeeps and no problems with any of them ??
@bushtrash2286 Wear and tear items: brakes, steering pumps, alternators, nothing major. Sure I have bought jeeps with bad transmissions and engines but never personally had those break. They are easily fixable, I stick to 97-06.
@@ElevatedJeeps I'll take a look, I'm looking at Ineos and Toyota, but thanks I'll take a closer look at jeep, with the years you suggested
@bushtrash2286 If I could specifically recommend the 03-06, 4.0 strait 6, Dana 44 rear axle, auto or manual are solid choices. The 4.0 is pretty well bullet proof! Good luck!