A simple maneuver on a nice calm sunny day, howling gale and rough seas would make this so much more dangerous, proud of you guys, I could not do what you do
Hi ! A good demonstration video again! Good music choice! Congratulations! This is very reassuring! Thanks for uploading! Very big like (31)👍👍👍!! Have nice day!
Thankyou for sharing this normally unseen proceedure, i have nothing but admiration for these unsung heroes who put their lives on the line voluntarily to save others.
@@adamreznik6374 the lines used by the RNLI are designed to have a very low recoil/snapback if they fail. I use similar synthetic cable when we spool thru new overhead power lines and is very expensive
Cant speak highly enough about the RNLI. Watching this, its very labour intensive. Isnt there a way you could remotely recover the boat up the ramp making it safer for the staff ?
Actually, its done with safety in mind. The reason they have to tie the boat off outside the door and reposition the winch is because they would have to put a man in the water to attach the winch to the bottom of the boat if they didn't and it a storm thats the last thing you want to do. The winch line is pulled on deck via a throw rope without putting someone in danger, the rougher the seas, the longer the throw rope required. They could in theory have a permanent Bridle line attached to the bottom of the boat with a tether to the deck like they use on the front of the Tamar class but the issue there is the boat house is not long enough to account for the extra rigging and the boat would still be sicking out the door so you would still have to tie the boat off, take the Bridle out, then reattach the winch direct to the bottom of the hull to complete the pull which is the same labour as what they have just done. If you think this is labour intensive, look up some old cartridge recoveries, it could take them an hour to get the boat out of the water.
Its pretty simple Triman500, to keep the crew and workforce absolutely safe, it's probably best for them to stay and home with their feet up watching shipwrecks on the TV. Well spotted that there were humans in danger exposed to the open air though..
It's a fair comment, I imagined there would would be a track/carriage device that would travel down the ramp and would attach to the boat as soon as it landed on the ramp, and bring it into the station in one go. Working method look safe enough but it is a very manual system with lifting stuff like that heavy shackle on a sloping floor that doesn't look very grippy, with a gap in it.
They could make a carriage of some sort that the boat would just have to get above, then it would raise up, hook into something on the boat, then pull it up, it would be very expensive to build, and expensive to maintain, and you'd still need to keep this system in case the automated one breaks, sometimes simple is best.
Labour intensive.. yes, but as the RNLI exists on donations I'd have thought paying thousands for a bespoke recovery rig against spending the cash on life saving equipment, fuel etc would be a no brainer. Also if it's simple, it's less likely to fail. The crew on the slip weren't in any real danger and I presume in really bad weather they could easily use a life line in case they got washed off by a freak wave.
I support the RNLI , the Volunteers really are dedicated , I have looked at dozens of the videos showing stations all around the UK , But very surprisedly I have never seen any about Whitby North Yorkshire life boats or information ,I have been doing a little research and discovered that it has a very rich history and currently is highly active station , But seems not to get any publicity for some reason,
Can someone explain the reason behind this operation? Why are these boats stored inside and dropped and recovered for every mission? Lifeboats in other country are usually based strategically at harbors along the shoreline.
Nearly impossible to build any suitable harbor in these located waters and coastlines. With this operation, only a ramp and boat house is required (easier said than done). Also helps to repair and remove the boats after rescue operations, and personal as well.
its to do with the land on coast lines where its flat you see boat houses next to or on the beach or in a harbour and the boats deployed by a special tractor that roles a trailer with the boat on into the water but where there is only cliffs then they have no choice but to build the stations higher and install ramps to deploy the boats and these kind are slightly quicker as rolling the boat into the see with the tractors is slow work and sometimes have to travel a bit further to get to the shoreline
Looks pretty safe in calm seas. I can’t imagine the stress on the pilot with high wind and waves though. Looks like the boat has bow thrusters. I guess that’s enough?
In a launch, time is of the essence; lives are at stake. After a mission, though, there's no rush. If the seas are too rough they simply don't return to the station; they wait it out.
It's funded by donation and all but one station are crewed by volunteers. The one that has paid staff also has housing as it's in a very remote location. RNLI the only charity I now give to after I found out that air ambulances bill for jobs.
The Criticiser not sure where you got that info that air ambulances bill for jobs. That never happens. The air ambulance only gets money from charitable donations from people and businesses. Also the London RNLI bass is definitely not remote!
Got some bad news, Humberside is the only full-time crew. Check for yourself at RNLI.org As for the Air Ambulance, I was a Paramedic since before First Air Ambulance started and I would have agreed with you. Then I was at an overturned quad that rolled over the rider on a farm. We had the Air Ambulance medevac him and the farmer got an invoice for £3500. He called them and was told that as it was on private land that was policy. They said to claim on his insurance, that would have caused his premium to rocket and that was the last of qauding there.
The Humber Lifeboat at Spurn Point is the only fulltime paid crew and is very remote. Tower is crewed 24/7 and has fulltime duty Helms who are paid, the other crew members are Volunteers Also each All Weather Boat Station around the Country has a fulltime Mechanic who may also be the Coxswain, but that is not always the case
same way the waves would have to be 20ft or something for the lifeboat crew to go to a standard harbour and moor but if the waves are that high considering the size of most harbour walls they would probably have to just camp it out
They are underfunded and do one hell of a job in the stormy weather and on a calm day thay are the emergency services that most people in places like London, Cardiff, Birmingham don't know what they do on a day to day basis.
wheres the health & safety here then, i'm referring to the people on either side of the slipway, surely if any part of the winch rope snapped then one or more of those peoples lives would be in danger of critical injury, would it not be sensible to clear the slip completely before beginning the winch.
I don't understand why they still build this old design of rescue boat ramp. A rigid boat house building at waters edge where the boat can simply drive in, doors close, and a lift mechanism from underneath simply elevates it up out of the water like in use in other places would be faster and more economical.
Because a ramp and a winch are simple and require almost no maintinance. Any crane system requires hydraulics, lines and a structure capable of supporting 50t. Then there is the H&S of all that and a 50t boat in the air. It's far simpler to just drag it up a ramp to an inland boathouse.
The 2 props on this Tamar boat are in a protected tunnel. The only Water Jets are on the New Shannon Boat and the E Class boats on the Thames in London
Respect but ! i think is an unsafe procedure with a bit formed sea! too slow and risky manipulate big cord ! I think will be better engage ramp with bow and with automatik hook system similar to a boat trolley . Ship will be reverse on safe
It is ready, quicker to run it down that slip and hit the ground running than mess around with mooring ropes! Also it can launch where there is no safe anchorage in the area.
Look out for Saun Parkinson in this comment thread - he's very knowledgeable and contributes the same comment many times and consistently spells 'wear' as 'ware' for everyone's entertainment.
Dunno if you noticed they've got visitors? The whole point is demonstrating how the process works. I should imagine after a call out they work a bit faster to quiet their rumbling stomachs
Completely stupid way to recover the vessel! They SHOULD be able to power in forwards, winch to top of the ramp, turntable spin the vessel 180 degrees, ready to relaunch! What sort of idiot designed this process?
ian hawkins Versus not being able to recover the vessel stern first in a rough sea state? Surely when required to launch & rescue, it’s because of bad conditions & some vessel has come to distress state? Once out there & rescued the stricken craft or passengers crew, where do you go? Back to a sheltered harbour / anchorage & wait for calm weather to be able to reverse the vessel back into this launch station? It just doesn’t make sense? If you can’t recover stern first in bad weather & thus have to seek shelter in a safe harbour, why not just base the vessel, in said safe harbour? Don’t get me wrong- I’m a master 5 skipper who owned a ex marine & harbours rescue & patrol vessel! This arrangement is just plain poor design / poor execution. If I were master of that vessel and asked to do a stern recovery into that lifeboat station in anything but glass flat conditions I’d tell them to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine! 😂😂 I actually thought our UK mariners were smarter than this! I’d have zero confidence an any mariners dumb enough to operate this way having the capability to actually rescue anyone. I’m scratching my head wondering, “who rescues these idiots, coz they obviously couldn’t organise sexual intercourse in a women’s prison with a handful of pardons! This video is seriously NOT good PR for whatever organisation runs this rescue facility! Please tell me it’s not taxpayer funded? I’m left speechless & majorly underwhelmed! Who’s in charge? Mr Bean?
Ian Moone Great comment i feel the same way this has to me the most asinine way to recover that boat better be a real emergency to go through all that shit.
@@ianmoone2359 The station is placed where it is based on time of response to likely incidents. RNLI do place lifeboats "lying afloat" when appropriate, but this is one of many locations where the coastline and lack of proximity to a safe harbour prevent that. Moreover, with a handful of exceptions, RNLI boats have mostly volunteer crews (normally only the coxswain and mechanic are staff positions), so the boats have to be in a location where the crew can get to the boat and be underway on service quickly. If the sea state is such that return to station is inappropriate, then the boat will head to a safe harbour - but it will not be in the optimum position for further rescues until it can return to station. I believe I am correct in saying that this is not the latest class of RNLI boat in the video. The Shannon class, which is beach launched from many stations, has a launcher supporting bow first recovery - the boat is winched up onto the launcher and spins on a turntable ready to be launched again. The RNLI is charitable and receives no public money.
David Wood Thanks for the explanation, I’m sure it makes sense in relation to the location and how the service evolved with donations & making do with what you have & has “evolved over time”, to where it is now. If OSHW / Worksafe inspectors here in Oz saw this it would be shut down for excess risk to operators. It really needs further upgrading.
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Unbelievable!! Fantastic video. Absolute respect to the guys and gals who volunteer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
A simple maneuver on a nice calm sunny day, howling gale and rough seas would make this so much more dangerous, proud of you guys, I could not do what you do
Hi !
A good demonstration video again! Good music choice!
Congratulations! This is very reassuring!
Thanks for uploading! Very big like (31)👍👍👍!!
Have nice day!
Thankyou for sharing this normally unseen proceedure, i have nothing but admiration for these unsung heroes who put their lives on the line voluntarily to save others.
The RNLI are awesome, and make what I’m sure is a complex, difficult operation look easy 👍
Very informative. They do great works and it was a pleasure to visit their huge base in Poole, this year.
muito competentes, bom trabalho!
Where you at willie?
Looks like a well funded quality operation
The RNLI is well-funded. It's one of the most wealthy charities in the UK and annual revenues always exceed expenditure.
Hi, can I use the audio from this video for a student project I'm working on about lifeboats?
Big respect...just can't help thinking that the winch cable is wrong angle..guess unless you can hook further down nowt you can do.
I was there to
Very nice. I suppose there is no chance of that cable parting because it might take someone's head off if it did?
Synthetic ropes designed to have almost no recoil, if you watch a launch when they release the weight of the boat the rope simply falls to the floor
Jock Wood Ok very good.
There's always a very real chance of the line parting.
Search "synthetic line snapback."
@@jockwood2398 This is incorrect, synthetic lines will snap back when they part.
@@adamreznik6374 the lines used by the RNLI are designed to have a very low recoil/snapback if they fail. I use similar synthetic cable when we spool thru new overhead power lines and is very expensive
Cant speak highly enough about the RNLI. Watching this, its very labour intensive. Isnt there a way you could remotely recover the boat up the ramp making it safer for the staff ?
Actually, its done with safety in mind. The reason they have to tie the boat off outside the door and reposition the winch is because they would have to put a man in the water to attach the winch to the bottom of the boat if they didn't and it a storm thats the last thing you want to do.
The winch line is pulled on deck via a throw rope without putting someone in danger, the rougher the seas, the longer the throw rope required.
They could in theory have a permanent Bridle line attached to the bottom of the boat with a tether to the deck like they use on the front of the Tamar class but the issue there is the boat house is not long enough to account for the extra rigging and the boat would still be sicking out the door so you would still have to tie the boat off, take the Bridle out, then reattach the winch direct to the bottom of the hull to complete the pull which is the same labour as what they have just done.
If you think this is labour intensive, look up some old cartridge recoveries, it could take them an hour to get the boat out of the water.
Its pretty simple Triman500, to keep the crew and workforce absolutely safe, it's probably best for them to stay and home with their feet up watching shipwrecks on the TV. Well spotted that there were humans in danger exposed to the open air though..
It's a fair comment, I imagined there would would be a track/carriage device that would travel down the ramp and would attach to the boat as soon as it landed on the ramp, and bring it into the station in one go. Working method look safe enough but it is a very manual system with lifting stuff like that heavy shackle on a sloping floor that doesn't look very grippy, with a gap in it.
They could make a carriage of some sort that the boat would just have to get above, then it would raise up, hook into something on the boat, then pull it up, it would be very expensive to build, and expensive to maintain, and you'd still need to keep this system in case the automated one breaks, sometimes simple is best.
Labour intensive.. yes, but as the RNLI exists on donations I'd have thought paying thousands for a bespoke recovery rig against spending the cash on life saving equipment, fuel etc would be a no brainer. Also if it's simple, it's less likely to fail. The crew on the slip weren't in any real danger and I presume in really bad weather they could easily use a life line in case they got washed off by a freak wave.
That’s cute, they named this boat “LIFEBOAT”
I support the RNLI , the Volunteers really are dedicated , I have looked at dozens of the videos showing stations all around the UK , But very surprisedly I have never seen any about Whitby North Yorkshire life boats or information ,I have been doing a little research and discovered that it has a very rich history and currently is highly active station , But seems not to get any publicity for some reason,
amazing
Any one with a couple of million £ to buy one.. The RNLI would love to hear from you.
Well designed and thought out launch and recovery system!
Date , time indication pls
Those three deck hands are really strong.....
Can someone explain the reason behind this operation? Why are these boats stored inside and dropped and recovered for every mission? Lifeboats in other country are usually based strategically at harbors along the shoreline.
Nearly impossible to build any suitable harbor in these located waters and coastlines. With this operation, only a ramp and boat house is required (easier said than done). Also helps to repair and remove the boats after rescue operations, and personal as well.
Adam Brcic that makes sense. Thx.
its to do with the land on coast lines where its flat you see boat houses next to or on the beach or in a harbour and the boats deployed by a special tractor that roles a trailer with the boat on into the water but where there is only cliffs then they have no choice but to build the stations higher and install ramps to deploy the boats and these kind are slightly quicker as rolling the boat into the see with the tractors is slow work and sometimes have to travel a bit further to get to the shoreline
What a difference,the old lifeboat days when we had to pull the winchwire down the slip to hook the boat on. Modern times.
So cool
I would love to see this in person!
Well done all you boys over there in Tenby.
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Simply awesome 👌👌👍👍
Looks pretty safe in calm seas. I can’t imagine the stress on the pilot with high wind and waves though. Looks like the boat has bow thrusters. I guess that’s enough?
In a launch, time is of the essence; lives are at stake. After a mission, though, there's no rush. If the seas are too rough they simply don't return to the station; they wait it out.
It's called a skipper not a pilot
Actually, "helmsman" and "coxswain" are the correct terms here, not "skipper."
Surprised they stand so close with the lines under tension..
It's funded by donation and all but one station are crewed by volunteers. The one that has paid staff also has housing as it's in a very remote location. RNLI the only charity I now give to after I found out that air ambulances bill for jobs.
The Criticiser the only paid station is Tower in central London, which I wouldn’t describe as ‘remote’
The Criticiser not sure where you got that info that air ambulances bill for jobs. That never happens. The air ambulance only gets money from charitable donations from people and businesses. Also the London RNLI bass is definitely not remote!
Got some bad news, Humberside is the only full-time crew. Check for yourself at RNLI.org
As for the Air Ambulance, I was a Paramedic since before First Air Ambulance started and I would have agreed with you. Then I was at an overturned quad that rolled over the rider on a farm. We had the Air Ambulance medevac him and the farmer got an invoice for £3500. He called them and was told that as it was on private land that was policy. They said to claim on his insurance, that would have caused his premium to rocket and that was the last of qauding there.
The Criticiser “crew on station around the clock” rnli.org/find-my-nearest/lifeboat-stations/tower-lifeboat-station
The Humber Lifeboat at Spurn Point is the only fulltime paid crew and is very remote. Tower is crewed 24/7 and has fulltime duty Helms who are paid, the other crew members are Volunteers Also each All Weather Boat Station around the Country has a fulltime Mechanic who may also be the Coxswain, but that is not always the case
Long complicated hookup , that would be difficult if they had another shout just as they were winching up.
How many times has the chain snapped? Shouldn’t it be a much thicker gage?
those wires don't snap and are vigorously checked every week and replaced if even the smallest millimetre of ware is found
How is this vessel recovered during rough conditions?
Same way, I guess, but it will take more time and hard work.
I would think that if conditions are too bad to recover it, they would divert to a protected harbor.
Correct
same way the waves would have to be 20ft or something for the lifeboat crew to go to a standard harbour and moor but if the waves are that high considering the size of most harbour walls they would probably have to just camp it out
Bonjour, Superbe vidéo, mais le titre ne nous dit pas où se trouve ce grand canot de sauvetage. Dans quelle mer ?
Philippe Durand the lifeboat is based in Tenby, Wales, UK
Thanks For that ! A nice launch and recovery installation
Very neat operation.
Bristol Channel .South Wales coast .
Amazing recovery. However, wouldn’t want to do that on a rough day. How dangerous would that be.
I think on a rough days they could'nt do this. The boat may stay at the port and when it is more easier, They do the recovery.
Royal Navy Lifeboat Institution?
wrong it is actually ROYAL NATIONAL LIFEBOAT INSTITUTION not royal NAVY lifeboat institution
Royal Navy is funded by the government, the RNLI is not, even though it is like the 4th emergency service
#the bilge is real
They are underfunded and do one hell of a job in the stormy weather and on a calm day thay are the emergency services that most people in places like London, Cardiff, Birmingham don't know what they do on a day to day basis.
They spend less than they generate so I’d say they aren’t underfunded.
wheres the health & safety here then, i'm referring to the people on either side of the slipway, surely if any part of the winch rope snapped then one or more of those peoples lives would be in danger of critical injury, would it not be sensible to clear the slip completely before beginning the winch.
The winch rope is rated at far more than the boat weighs
Ahem. See how thick that wire is? Its gonna take a way bigger boat to snap that baby
Ever heard of metal fatigue
RNLI don't use metal ropes/cables
Maybe not but they are attached to metal shackles which are susceptible to salt corrosion
Easier said than done
I don't understand why they still build this old design of rescue boat ramp. A rigid boat house building at waters edge where the boat can simply drive in, doors close, and a lift mechanism from underneath simply elevates it up out of the water like in use in other places would be faster and more economical.
Because a ramp and a winch are simple and require almost no maintinance. Any crane system requires hydraulics, lines and a structure capable of supporting 50t.
Then there is the H&S of all that and a 50t boat in the air. It's far simpler to just drag it up a ramp to an inland boathouse.
Tenby RNLI station can have terrible weather, the station must be elvated from the waves.
@@Andrew-mv5kt Now I understand.
#saving lives at sea
That winch has to be pretty powerful to overcome gravity and friction between the hull and the skid surface.
After all this they still have to wash her down to get all the salt water off.
yes
how are the props not being bent or ripped off of the vessel?
Water jets, no prop's to mess up
The 2 props on this Tamar boat are in a protected tunnel. The only Water Jets are on the New Shannon Boat and the E Class boats on the Thames in London
Why not a simple boat house? Is this for servicing? Seems like a huge waste of money.
because this design allows for quicklaunch in all weather while allowing the boathouse to be protected from being washed away
it is good that they dont have any hert people
Respect but ! i think is an unsafe procedure with a bit formed sea! too slow and risky manipulate big cord !
I think will be better engage ramp with bow and with automatik hook system similar to a boat trolley .
Ship will be reverse on safe
Take it the 3 people on jetty has never seen a bond or rope break under tension
Shouldn't be a Lifeboat ready and in the water at all times?
Some are - it depends on the locality.
It is ready, quicker to run it down that slip and hit the ground running than mess around with mooring ropes! Also it can launch where there is no safe anchorage in the area.
When a boat is always in the water it gets barnacles and sea weed on the hull that slows the boat down and uses more fuel
2:08 you can hear the whales swim past
Look out for Saun Parkinson in this comment thread - he's very knowledgeable and contributes the same comment many times and consistently spells 'wear' as 'ware' for everyone's entertainment.
Is he from Murica?
He also spells "rolls" as roles must be Murican.
Bendigedig pobol
I’m just saying, can’t they just build a dock and dock the boat like the best CG in the world? (USCG)
Not on that coastline
Because the coastline doesn’t allow it. The RNLI is far superior in rescue work.
Boat crew works as slow as Caltrans. Flat day. I'd hate to see them work on a big ocean.
Kevin Allen - should they be rushing? You try to get everything done as quickly as possible do you? Are you married..? 😉
Dunno if you noticed they've got visitors? The whole point is demonstrating how the process works. I should imagine after a call out they work a bit faster to quiet their rumbling stomachs
Call a helicopter it's faster ?
Wouldn't be practical because weather can ground helis and helis cant tow boats unlike a lifeboat
a helicopter cant land on a sinking ship to recover crew as easily as a tamar class lifeboat can pull up alongside
helicoper = costly
boat = no so costly
Completely stupid way to recover the vessel!
They SHOULD be able to power in forwards, winch to top of the ramp, turntable spin the vessel 180 degrees, ready to relaunch!
What sort of idiot designed this process?
Ian Moone while your design sounds great the increased cost and additional compilation would make it out of the question
ian hawkins Versus not being able to recover the vessel stern first in a rough sea state?
Surely when required to launch & rescue, it’s because of bad conditions & some vessel has come to distress state?
Once out there & rescued the stricken craft or passengers crew, where do you go?
Back to a sheltered harbour / anchorage & wait for calm weather to be able to reverse the vessel back into this launch station?
It just doesn’t make sense?
If you can’t recover stern first in bad weather & thus have to seek shelter in a safe harbour, why not just base the vessel, in said safe harbour?
Don’t get me wrong- I’m a master 5 skipper who owned a ex marine & harbours rescue & patrol vessel!
This arrangement is just plain poor design / poor execution.
If I were master of that vessel and asked to do a stern recovery into that lifeboat station in anything but glass flat conditions I’d tell them to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine! 😂😂
I actually thought our UK mariners were smarter than this!
I’d have zero confidence an any mariners dumb enough to operate this way having the capability to actually rescue anyone.
I’m scratching my head wondering, “who rescues these idiots, coz they obviously couldn’t organise sexual intercourse in a women’s prison with a handful of pardons!
This video is seriously NOT good PR for whatever organisation runs this rescue facility! Please tell me it’s not taxpayer funded?
I’m left speechless & majorly underwhelmed!
Who’s in charge? Mr Bean?
Ian Moone Great comment i feel the same way this has to me the most asinine way to recover that boat better be a real emergency to go through all that shit.
@@ianmoone2359 The station is placed where it is based on time of response to likely incidents. RNLI do place lifeboats "lying afloat" when appropriate, but this is one of many locations where the coastline and lack of proximity to a safe harbour prevent that. Moreover, with a handful of exceptions, RNLI boats have mostly volunteer crews (normally only the coxswain and mechanic are staff positions), so the boats have to be in a location where the crew can get to the boat and be underway on service quickly.
If the sea state is such that return to station is inappropriate, then the boat will head to a safe harbour - but it will not be in the optimum position for further rescues until it can return to station.
I believe I am correct in saying that this is not the latest class of RNLI boat in the video. The Shannon class, which is beach launched from many stations, has a launcher supporting bow first recovery - the boat is winched up onto the launcher and spins on a turntable ready to be launched again.
The RNLI is charitable and receives no public money.
David Wood Thanks for the explanation, I’m sure it makes sense in relation to the location and how the service evolved with donations & making do with what you have & has “evolved over time”, to where it is now.
If OSHW / Worksafe inspectors here in Oz saw this it would be shut down for excess risk to operators.
It really needs further upgrading.
I have difficulty seeing how a pier wouldn't be easier and safer than all this nonsense.