DoubleLine CEO Gundlach: National Debt is totally out of control

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  • DoubleLine Capital CEO and founder sits down with CNBC's Scott Wapner to discuss the national debt and national deficit and why he's concerned.
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  • @ronnyfrancisco8986
    @ronnyfrancisco8986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Where are my fellow republicans talking about national debt, they expend 8 years under Obama talking about it and now it's ok to keep spending and printing the us dollar, 8 years.

    • @user-td7xf3gz4l
      @user-td7xf3gz4l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gotta ask the libertarians

    • @daft9inety6ixer57
      @daft9inety6ixer57 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-td7xf3gz4l Well, the chinese are hoarding gold. maybe they see a new gold standard coming.

    • @mightbesherwood1313
      @mightbesherwood1313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Republicans' biggest problem with Obama's fiscal policy was that he was African-American, and not Republican. Let's be real.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The same place there were when they were bitching about food stamps and couldn't care less about the cost of invading and occupying Iraq.
      7 trillion dollars vs. couch change so a working stiff can feed a bag of starch to his starving children.

    • @knpstrr
      @knpstrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love Congress to cut spending! Shrink the size of the federal government DRASTICALLY

  • @wiskerbiscuit397
    @wiskerbiscuit397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to Jeff all day.

  • @YesPlease1
    @YesPlease1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The reporter's shoes lol

  • @amoliterno945
    @amoliterno945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    It’s amazing that investors don’t care about debt growth really at all

    • @AX1A
      @AX1A 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ignorance is bliss -- until it ain't.

    • @ihatem2970
      @ihatem2970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes they don’t care- until they care. Very soon.

    • @Mikesorrento3344
      @Mikesorrento3344 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will but it will be too
      late.

    • @tmemore
      @tmemore 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does not matter until it does. And it will.. Things break slowly and then fail suddenly... Next recession will be fugly.

    • @barrysmith9878
      @barrysmith9878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What investors? Corporations are getting paid, to take money from the FRB, and buy there own stocks.

  • @MrJameschance
    @MrJameschance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    the last voice of sanity in this world of debt junkies

    • @juniorjr5328
      @juniorjr5328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      most of the things he said was said first by peter schiff

  • @Antonocon
    @Antonocon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gundlach, probably the most sensible person commentating on this. Don't listen to the naysayers Jeff. There is a lot of lunacy out there right now. This full interview is very good and the last couple of youtube interviews with him. All he's doing is not jumping into 'the Emperor's new clothes' current mode of thinking.

    • @lisad2701
      @lisad2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ray Dalio is very concerned about the situation as well.

    • @Antonocon
      @Antonocon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lisad2701 Ray Dalio is great, and people should heed his investment advice particularly how to balance your portfolio for any scenario. However, he is not as honest as Gundlach, probably because he has too many eyes on him and doesn't want to be the spark that causes a market sell off. Same with a lot of other celebrity investors.

  • @jesselivermore2291
    @jesselivermore2291 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    usa is shrinking so is europe n japan even with trillions of stimulus, 1930s recession coming

  • @michael2275
    @michael2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Get your gold and bitcoin folks

    • @Kyle-mb4dg
      @Kyle-mb4dg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's your weighting for those two? Not really a bitcoin guy, I prefer gold, however, I do think bitcoin could do well if the dollar goes south.

    • @user-td7xf3gz4l
      @user-td7xf3gz4l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitcoin isn't immune from political manipulation. Governments can shut down Bitcoin. Gold and especially, silver are much more resistant to government interference.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@drmodestoesq Governments cannot shut down bitcoin just like they can't stop torrenting. Do more research before speaking.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michael2275 The Chinese government can't make it a minimum ten year sentence for trafficking in Bitcoin? The OECD countries can't ban credit card companies and financial institutions from buying and selling Bitcoin?
      Governments can't shut down Fentanyl trafficking but they can sure make it something financial mainstream doesn't want anything to do with.

  • @yannchevrier-foundy5063
    @yannchevrier-foundy5063 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, all that money spent, still no universal healthcare, and a lagging education system. Where is all the money going? the middle east?

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Military industrial complex is a good place to start with cuts. But will it happen? Most Americans have bought the con that getting involved in Crazy Achmed's interminable wars is "keeping them safe....we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here."

    • @knpstrr
      @knpstrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where is it all going? Government waste. Government spending needs to be cut DRASTICALLY across the board.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knpstrr The government waste argument is overrated. Social Security for example. A huge government expenditure. The government just cuts a check to everyone over 65. The administration costs are negligible.
      There's zero chance that entitlements will be cut. The debt will have to be bought by the Federal Reserve and retired.

    • @knpstrr
      @knpstrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drmodestoesq I agree that there is zero chance that entitlements will be cut even though that is what needs to be done. And not just S.S. or Medicare all wealth redistribution programs need to be cut back and/or eliminated. However, I would say there is a near 100% chance entitlements and government spending will be increased. There is no money available to retire the debt. It will just keep growing. We're broke and people want "free" health care and "free" college.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knpstrr "No money available?"
      The government has a printing press. And all the debt is denominated in U.S. dollars. To me the future is as clear as Zeiss glass. The government is going to buy the debt. It's the path of least political resistance.

  • @JoeDoe2
    @JoeDoe2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At 0:45 he calls him Judge Wapner. hahaha

    • @priushater
      @priushater 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's judge wapner's son.

  • @kingkemet2527
    @kingkemet2527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We always talking shit about China debt when our national debt is on pace to be $43 quadrillion by year 2100

    • @lisad2701
      @lisad2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that you are being optimistic.

    • @kingkemet2527
      @kingkemet2527 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lisa D lol

  • @justinpeanuts9767
    @justinpeanuts9767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last words are the key to the discussion.
    The Fed follows the ECB and the BOJ.

    • @barrysmith9878
      @barrysmith9878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, two broke central banks.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BOJ: "Let's spend government money trying to spur inflation that will never happen with a shrinking population." Are they still giving away houses for free?

  • @michaelmeredith4225
    @michaelmeredith4225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Makeup guy went ham on that reporter.... yikes

  • @brunomanco7529
    @brunomanco7529 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    With all this corporate and national debt new issuances, and fed lowering its balance sheet, how theres is still available cash to buy all this? Is there any graphic available to see when is expected for the market to run out of cash to buy new debt???

  • @stopasking9745
    @stopasking9745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn this guy's handsome

  • @jackblack5962
    @jackblack5962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greg Mannarino says it, watch the bond market, that is where all the action are

    • @lisad2701
      @lisad2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, and Mannarino FINALLY sees that he supported a conman in the White House. It was about time!

  • @dailydata903
    @dailydata903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy gets 3% over 5 years on his bond fund. How can I get his job?

  • @lowpross11
    @lowpross11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s coming

  • @michaelfernandez1513
    @michaelfernandez1513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    he's back! don't fuck it up again CNBC!!!

  • @tommathew7684
    @tommathew7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We put 10 million human beings into prison and created 4 million peace officers, defense lawyers, district attorneys and judges.

  • @dailydata903
    @dailydata903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JG figured out the 22 Trillion debt is bad. I didnt need to go to Harvard to figure that out.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the growth of Harvard's endowment since the Global Financial Crisis. How has it performed compared to a boring Stock Index fund? And this university is supposed to be the creme de la creme of financial geniuses? They got massacred by the indexes. They are geniuses as finding investments that suck.

  • @michaelbond781
    @michaelbond781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What he is talking about with ECB and BOJ, I assume, is negative interest rates. If that happens, I will walk into my bank and take out every nickel in cash. Period!

    • @mooredann69
      @mooredann69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooo it's coming. Want that sweet sweet Fdic insurance? Payus.

  • @johnlaubenstein758
    @johnlaubenstein758 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What he said is right OTHER than discussion on robust GDPs
    Every 3= GDP WE HAD HAPPENED from hurricane/willdfire rebuilds followed b trade war stocking/related.
    Every one of those 3+ prints adjusted for disaster relief was

  • @Ja50nkAt
    @Ja50nkAt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weird to see them outside. At least Gundlach is back on CNBC, only one talking the about the things no one else wants to talk about.

  • @grahamhammond
    @grahamhammond 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Genius

    • @cmdrrgh
      @cmdrrgh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      graham hammond scary

  • @johnnywalker2220
    @johnnywalker2220 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone telling truth

  • @tommathew7684
    @tommathew7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's easy to forecast the economy. Our economy is based on abortion, incarceration, divorce and STDs. This is routinely called personal consumption expenditure, a concept that is difficult to model. Incarceration is easy to model. Statistics are published every month and also annually. You can easily get 10 years of data and compare it to GDP, birthrates and interest rates. Abortion can be modeled with scanner data of morning after pills (they are retail products). Divorce is available by state. STDs are easy to track. The most lucrative STD is HIV as it will generate $5.3 million of revenues per patient. Prior to HIV, an adult male would not generate even $600,000 of medical care.

  • @ok-re1md
    @ok-re1md 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you cant have trade deficit of $900 Billion and not borrow money, main strength of the US is its dollar, and if you want to keep USD as the world currency you need to provide liquidity to the rest of the world, which is in a form of issuing debt, as the proportion of US economy in the global economy is declining US only has to accelerate issueing its debt, contraction would only accelerate US decline. I dont see a way out, its hard to say how long will it take for this to blow up but its coming.

    • @barrysmith9878
      @barrysmith9878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only way out is war.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once the yearly interest on the National debt becomes impossible to pay we have a problem, I'd call that the blowup moment. The other way would be the petrodollar collapse if the strait of Hormuz closes or electric cars become the norm - which will eventually happen.

    • @barrysmith9878
      @barrysmith9878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, buy will we see deflation and depression, or hyper inflation?

    • @ok-re1md
      @ok-re1md 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rs72098 nothing prevents Fed from printing money to pay off the debt for the time being, surprisingly investors did not pull out their money after GFC when fed was engaging in crazy QE. if straight of Hormuz closes you know what that means, war with Iran which will cost trillions and will add up to national debt, I dont think US can afford another war atm.
      like Barry said solution could be a war, with China (not with Iran) which will end up being a nuclear war and end of the world or a global recession, one that destroys economies of Asian nations but wouldn't effect that much to the US, which is impossible as Chinese would starts selling US debt. so I dont see a way out, this could last for a decade or more and Chinese do not want US collapsing now, once they are superior militarily and economically to a different level they will dump US like a b*tch
      proper trade deals and eradication of WTO is the way out but China would fall apart in couple of years in that environment so thats not happening.

  • @ammarali9043
    @ammarali9043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is being talking about that recession a year ago and it hasn't come yet. So if people buy what your saying and setting on sideline, they would have missed huge gains.

  • @tommathew7684
    @tommathew7684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are in recession now. It started 7/3/2019.

  • @rs72098
    @rs72098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harry Dent was right, way ahead of Gundlach, except he forgot low unemployment. The US is mimicking Japan, deflation with record high debt, and extremely low unemployment due to aging demographics. Babyboomers are retiring like crazy while millenials can't fill all the jobs. Likewise consumer spending will also fall, and governments will spend higher amounts of money to spur inflation.

  • @tannersilva4215
    @tannersilva4215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2020 has entered the chat...

  • @gettinafterit2158
    @gettinafterit2158 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually surprising to see him on CNBC. Didn’t think he would go back on again.. nonetheless always list to what E. F Hutton has to say 😂

  • @nohopeequalsnofear3242
    @nohopeequalsnofear3242 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats going to happen in the next recession?
    A. Bail outs for wall street
    B. Trillions more in debt.
    C. Socialist Revolution
    D. All of the above

    • @mooredann69
      @mooredann69 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bail ins for Banks.

  • @MrGeneraaltje
    @MrGeneraaltje 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think it's nearly as bad as he makes it seem. The interest on these debts is farrrrr less than back in 2007 and the Fed isn't going to push it up much because inflation is low. So the country can handle a much higher debt with these lower interest rates, as long as it's spent on investments and not on wasteful things.

    • @mooredann69
      @mooredann69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are telling me investments are not a waste at the moment? I have some Uber stocks to sell you. Maybe a piece of BuzzFeed.

  • @harbifm766766
    @harbifm766766 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No out, only crushing the dolloar is the only way out?!!!

  • @billmoyer3254
    @billmoyer3254 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it only matters if you do not consider strategic default. turn the problem into a weapon.

  • @leonoradompor8706
    @leonoradompor8706 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We poor countries will print also money without borrowing USA banks !

  • @jasongood5499
    @jasongood5499 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    USA will eventually have a Puerto Rico debt collapse moment, where the whole financial system will have to reset since the debt is unsustainable long term.

    • @stopasking9745
      @stopasking9745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No they won't they'll just print it

  • @ONEMANUNITX
    @ONEMANUNITX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great time too short.

  • @jameswesley8096
    @jameswesley8096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trump in office debt is the gift for your children

    • @bobleib737
      @bobleib737 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its always the kid that makes the last out in the last inning who is responsible for the loss.

  • @geneshepherd9393
    @geneshepherd9393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys don't have to worry , You've got a machine that can print trillions of counterfeit notes!!
    You need a gold standard which will force your govt to run balanced budgets.

  • @gettinafterit2158
    @gettinafterit2158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn’t matter Dem/Rep.. we are in serious trouble coming and people are going to be scared as heck😭
    Atlas Shrugged is here!!!

  • @ozzyguy6792
    @ozzyguy6792 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha ha...Bring on da ZIRP...Bring on da NIRP...US crony capitalism is about to crash the Empire!

  • @jbeck6560
    @jbeck6560 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter Schiff is far better than Gundlach

    • @stopasking9745
      @stopasking9745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not at making money he isn't

    • @jbeck6560
      @jbeck6560 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stopasking9745 lol but telling the truth he is. I agree though he's been wrong for some time. He missed out on the biggest bull market in history.