Oh my god, after getting to like 45mins I've gotta say, I don't think I've ever seen/heard a better example of this quote lol. I've seen some dumb people in debates, but this girl is something else. Like as "something else" as something else can be lol- seriously can't follow the most basic of points!
“You don’t want to accept this is what’s happening, you just want to argue…” - pretty ironic coming from someone who was just questioning the Big Bang…
Too right. P-Who wrote the Bible? April-Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Me- 😶...🤣🤣🤣 TBH April must be the most ignorant person I've seen on a call-in show on TH-cam. And the confidence with which she presents her non-arguments is off the charts. She may have actually evolved into the personification of Dunning-Kruger.
This is the most painful, fascinating, fascinatingly painful conversation I’ve ever listened to. I have to pause every few minutes just to take a breath, and I audibly gasped when she asked “how do we have the copies if we don’t have the originals?”
I'm only 2/3s of the way through (taking one of those breathers), and that's already a repressed memory. The way she kept jumping claims was Olympic level mental gymnastics.
And her arrogant laughs on top of it- it's just..... God, I soo hope that she's just trolling him so that I can go back to pretending that people like this don't actually exist on this Earth lol.
It’s heart breaking when you try and try and try to make people see and they love bathing in ignorance. This lady is a victim like so many of us of indoctrination and ignorance about science
Holy hell, this conversation is why I seriously worry for the future of humanity. The profound lack of comprehension and reasoning skills coupled with supreme confidence is horrifying. The implications of such a mindset as well as the broader meta-narrative of so many human beings who experience reality on such an incoherent level, makes me shudder. These people sit in nuclear weapons silos, they head governments, and determine fate of nations. Ugh!
I don't think you should worry about it too much. Ignorance has been a part of the human experience for pretty much our entire existence. Yet, here we are. We'll be fine.
Unfortunately this kind of blind confidence and extreme dedication to one's own convictions can also make one a billionaire if they fall upon the right soil.
Cats already know geometry. THAT’S why trying to teach them is futile. Need evidence? How else would they know EXACTLY where to step to trip you? From this, I suspect they know physics as well.
@@joeaddison7120 I'll do you one better: A cat knows exactly the volume of a container, so that it will fit in it! The almighty Internet shows this! :D
@@Nekotaku_TV I gasped and actually choked on my coffee when she said Homo sapiens never existed. Her ignorance is physically dangerous to the health of others even only indirectly exposed to her 😂
April was refusing to understand what you were saying. We all know it's because she believes it and it scares her that it might be wrong. She's utterly terrified of facing her indoctrination
You can tell every time the cognitive dissonance is bothering her because she seemingly intentionally misses the contradictions in her own arguments, even when peterson presents them to her in a clearly comprehensible manner. Either she's doing it intentionally, or she's just really dumb.
Why is it so important for them to define who (or what) created the universe without actually studying the actual science behind it? Do they feel good at night going to sleep knowing sky daddy did it? That's just like me finding peace knowing Luke Skywalker's force spirit is somewhere out there.
Because God is a stop gap for knowledge. It's used as a way to subvert thought. For them, the God hypothesis is enough to answer any questions, so they expect it to be enough for other people. God is something that stands in for knowledge and makes it so that they don't have to look deeper.
I've never witnessed a mind so thoroughly, so terminally poisoned by religion. It's like her faith completely amputated her ability to think and use logic. Gotta admit - in a way it's very impressive.
Happens in relationships too. It is unhealthy attachment, this time to an imaginary being that fulfils some of her human needs (a partner incapable of betraying or leaving). You will have better luck convincing a stalker who is obsessively in 'love' with a celebrity that the celebrity does not love them back. In that case, at least, the celebrity exists for sure.
Someone please tell this woman that "My pastor said that science says X" and "Science says X" are not the same sentence like...at all XD Because I'm pretty sure when she says "Science says X" she really means that her pastor says that's what science says lol :P
Same. Seems really weird. Might be an issue with the recording / compression? mp3 with a bitrate of 20? ^^ Though as far as I know Eric actually does Tiktok livestreams, so it may be just the recording of those. Though, it's still weird that only the recording is affected.
@@Bunny99s Could be a compression artifact, sure, but if it was we'd expect it to be more consistent. The reason I'm hesitant to think it's upstream throughput limitation is because the video never seems to have issues. So it probably either has something to do with the microphone or audio compression somewhere in the pipe pre-stream. I'm really curious from a signal engineering perspective, but I have no idea what kind of setup he's using so can't definitively say much about it.
@@ThorsDecree But it can't really be a hardware issue since, as mentioned by the op, the participants usually can hear each other just fine. Also the issues are on both sides and usually at the same time, even though it's hard to tell every time since it's rare they both speak at the same time. So it really feels like a third party has recorded this stream and the audio stream is loosing packets or something like that. There could be several reasons why the video is not affected / not noticably affected. Depending on the streaming protocol the data may be transmitted differently. Since the video throughput is much higher, if there's just a small interruption you may get a single glitched frame. However if the audio is streamed in chunk bursts, if one such burst is corrupted, we get messed up audio for a couple of seconds.
@@JTfromVT It REALLY was! I can’t believe someone with access to the internet, Google at their fingertips, in 2023 and doesn’t know humans are animals, and says “homosapiens NEVER existed”‼️ How does one teach adulthood and not know these things??
I actually get so mad. How can a someone say humans are intelligent and then say humans aren’t animals. That totally contradicts herself. Learn the taxonomy of animals and stop thinking that humans are so exceptionally smarter. Primates feature are that they are a little smarter and have a way with tools. She says humans are smart, how? Because we have phones? I’ve never seen her make a phone. Some people are smart. By actually finding out like Carl von linné and Isaac Newton. But then people learn from them. Humans just learn to act a certain way from others
It's drives me crazy that the people who don't believe in evolution learned evolution from people who don't understand it or are actively trying to misrepresent it. They only hear what these things are from other people like them. The lack of education on these topics is severely lacking. We need more Planet Petersons to correct the misconceptions.
Nah, you probably are stupid. We all are. -On all kinds of subjects. It takes a certain kind of arrogance to assert expertise in a subject on the grounds of your own ideas. Let's celebrate out stupidity by going out and finding out actual facts about the world, instead of relying on hearsay :)
41:02 An animal isn't a species. Which means humans and animals cannot be two different species. She clearly doesn't understand what an animal actually is. A chair isn't an animal, but a dog and a human are both animals.
HOW⁉️ How on earth do you have the patience for this⁉️ I have stated this on many of your videos, you are operating on a (pun intended) “god level” patience mode!! Hats off to you, there is simply no way I could do it without yelling at this piece of LEGO! Keep ‘em coming Eric, your videos make me laugh (& cry & scream & hurt) every single time!! 🤪🤣👍🏼☮️
@@alphaghost9672 i understand people can believe in religion my whole family and lots of friends believe but they also are normal people. This person is unbelievably out of mind
She came into this conversation trying to win an argument, not have a civil debate and learn something. Absolutely absurd, you sir, have way more patience than i do.
"Obviously, because it happened (the Big Bang) there has to be a reason, what is the purpose of humanity"? (1:20) This woman has to be the world non-sequitur champion.
“Why don’t people still talk about vampires” (28:30) She’s joking right? There are entire groups and cults centered around vampires. Also, the existence of vampires is GRANDLY more likely than the Abrahamic deity.
Honestly I'm more a vampire than she is a christian, I know significantly more about vampires than she knows about christianity, and I drink human blood, whereas she drinks wine at best.
Seeing as how vampiric creatures exist, you're right, it is more likely. I mean a human-sized creature would have to drink ungodly amounts of blood each day to live, but it's not physically impossible.
@@catpoke9557 If a human sized vampiric animal would exist, I'd wager they would require about 2L of blood food a day which is almost half as the human body contains.
Technically getting nutrition mostly or exclusively from drinking blood is what makes a vampire. If human guts could draw all the required nutrients from just blood, some of us would be real life vampires by choice.
44:42 So if there was a creature that was intelligent, but other than that was identical to a sunflower, that organism would not be a plant because they are smarter and special?
She also acts like "must be dumb lawl" is in the definition of an animal. In reality we're not even certain if humans are actually the smartest animal or if we just happen to have the right anatomy + environment to actually invent things.
The most frustrating part of conversations like this, is people like her ask for specifics like, "what was their name?", or "you weren't there", but aren't self aware enough to recognize that is literally the same question that destroys the evidence they think they have for their own position.
47:15 She seems to not understand categories. A human being can still be a human being while also belonging to the mammal and animal categories. "We need population on Earth we need to give birth!" is not an argument for not being a mammal at all. I'm not sure why she thought that would be convincing in any way. We could have been laying eggs instead, or planted seeds.
Yes we can know something happened without knowing how it happened. If, f.i., I were to find the wreck of an burned car I know it was destroyed by fire somehow. I would have no idea if it was set on fire, had an accidental electrical fault or caught fire because the sun was focused just right trough the wind shield or something.
The reason we only have copies is simple. Paper and parchment etc degrade over time because of handling, rolling and storing them badly. The copies were made because the originals were essentially crumbling away and becoming unreadable. Then we made copies of the copies before they aged beyond readability. And thats why only copies still exist. We got a lot better at keeping books for long times but they still slowly decay and get lost. That is why we are digitising a lot of them to preserve them as digital copies.
09:00 Oh my... I can't with these people. God created the universe, Zeus was a deity created by people. The only difference is that she believes in one, and doesn't believe in the other. There isn't any more or less evidence for either.
This reminds me about the question of how extremely primitive war machines would do against extremely futuristic advanced ones. Would the advanced designers even think to create defenses against the primitive? So many times, she says something cripplingly stupid, and then laughs at him as if he said something stupid, like, people like April are making me lose hope for humanity. The double standard is strong with her.
My god (pun intended), how can anyone make it through this without getting furious. And then this smug laughter all the time. I salute you to make it through this one, but she’s way way waaaaaay too brainwashed. I feel for her, i think it’s too late to salvage anything here unfortunately. Thanks for trying anyway :)
21:22 This wheel is round like a cookie "but you can't eat a wheel" I know but my point is they're both round I'm making an analogy "but you can't eat the wheel, you can eat a cookie" facepalm
I heard someone argue w a Christian scholar with had a Harvard degree - insist that the world was six thousand years old because the bible said so - in spite of all evidence - It's called blind faith. There is no way to penetrate that darkness.
Whenever someone says that something can't come from nothing, my response is usually "How do you know?" While it's reasonable to say that something can't come from nothing, we've never had "nothing" (a complete lack of anything) to study. Something not coming from nothing is just as much of an assumption as saying nothing is an unstable concept and, by its nature, something will be produced, imo.
My grandpa was resurrected at the hospital after dying for a number of minutes.... Not taking April's side on this; just pointing out another obvious point she missed.
The exact same thing happened to my grandpa. Funny enough, he was a devout christian, yk what he told me he saw when he died? Nothing. He said it was like being asleep.
for the lens cap example, there are LOTS of things we cant know about it for sure (without an insane level of effort). like where did the glass come from, where was the silica for the glass sourced from. where did the materials for the grinding disc that was used to shape that lens come from. yet we can know aspects of its manufacture like a grinding disc was used to shape it.
That's the saddest part, idiots like that exist, get to vote and they are too stupid to realize how stupid they are. They birth, they live and they die clueless.
You should have made clear you were saying that we don't have any original texts from the New Testament from anywhere close to when Jesus Lived. We have the Dead Sea scrolls, some of which have been dated to around the time of Jesus, and we have copies of the Old Testament - showing a considerable degree of variation. But she was not equipped to have any reasonable conversation about any of this.
I want an ounce of April’s confidence
The stupid people are full of confidence while the smart people are full of doubt.
Dunning and kruger
@@jme92685 Oh, I'm soooooo doubtful...
The more you know, the more you realize what you don’t know.
- Aristotle
Or as I say, “The less you know, the less you realize what you don’t know…”
the cost is too high
The old adage: Don't debate an idiot, they will beat you with their experience
So anyway, here he is, making that very mistake.
Don't play chess with pigeons, they'll strut around the board knock over all the pieces, poo on the board and proclaim victory.
Oh my god, after getting to like 45mins I've gotta say, I don't think I've ever seen/heard a better example of this quote lol. I've seen some dumb people in debates, but this girl is something else. Like as "something else" as something else can be lol- seriously can't follow the most basic of points!
“You don’t want to accept this is what’s happening, you just want to argue…” - pretty ironic coming from someone who was just questioning the Big Bang…
The full quote is "They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
This was incredibly unbearable and i both loved and hated every minute of it.
Well put!
I agree!
Lol yes 😂
Looks like we love to suffer, high five bro!
Too right.
P-Who wrote the Bible?
April-Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
Me- 😶...🤣🤣🤣
TBH April must be the most ignorant person I've seen on a call-in show on TH-cam.
And the confidence with which she presents her non-arguments is off the charts.
She may have actually evolved into the personification of Dunning-Kruger.
Omg, the Dunning Kruger laugh! 😂😂😂😂😂
I thought she might have had a chicken in the room with her.
😂
@Grinder2112😂😂😂
It's like every day April goes to a special gym with training equipment specifically designed to make her unimaginably stupid.
Church.
Yeah the gym is called the church.
"Stop interrupting me. Interrupt me when I'm done," said the daft lady who interrupts constantly.
Also not making sense yet again since it's not an interruption at that point.
Darth Dawkins' half sister.
Sounds like the a-hole techniques people like Kent Hovind rely on...
@@midlander4
Don't _psychobabble_ her!
😂
@@midlander4 Darth Dawkins half wit
On behalf of all South Africans I apologize for this woman
Lol embarrassing us 😅
I thought i was the only one that recognized the accent
@@kennethdzengedza8978 the word "mos" did it for me 😅
i mean you can be proud that a south african proved that there is life after death.
life after brain death to be more precise
@@albazthefallenbut the "bruh" threw me off 🤣
This is the most painful, fascinating, fascinatingly painful conversation I’ve ever listened to.
I have to pause every few minutes just to take a breath, and I audibly gasped when she asked “how do we have the copies if we don’t have the originals?”
Same here, I had to pause at that same moment. Something has seriously snapped in her brain.
I'm only 2/3s of the way through (taking one of those breathers), and that's already a repressed memory. The way she kept jumping claims was Olympic level mental gymnastics.
And her arrogant laughs on top of it- it's just..... God, I soo hope that she's just trolling him so that I can go back to pretending that people like this don't actually exist on this Earth lol.
@@carlosa4852 are you still there or did the last minute give you a heart attack?
Wooow, she is quite… something, let’s say something 😂
This woman needs to talk to a biblical scholar so she can learn about her own book.
She would have to learn to have a conversation first lol
She is too busy listening to the voices in her head to listen to anything from, you know, "Experts"...
She can't learn (anything)
It's not her own book, got absolutely nothing to do with her and many more like her...
Most biblical scholars don't understand the Bible at all either
She votes. And possibly procreates. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
🤣
Why? ALL humans are dumb in one degree or another.
Voting doesnt matter retard, its the fact she can have children super easy and raise criminally stupid children.
and can own guns, and hold political office and affect legislation. be very afraid indeed.
Im not convinced she knows how
I've never heard someone so completely embody the personification of the Dunning-Kreuger effect. This was painful.
Holy fuck. She just demanded that he provide the location of the MISSING manuscripts. Lady, they’re *MISSING*
No they arent. You heathen. Dey ahh in Egypt.
It’s heart breaking when you try and try and try to make people see and they love bathing in ignorance. This lady is a victim like so many of us of indoctrination and ignorance about science
This one was brutal to get through. I can only imagine the bubble of crazy this lady lives in.
welcome to south africa where people deny basic biology lol
April Fool.
Holy hell, this conversation is why I seriously worry for the future of humanity. The profound lack of comprehension and reasoning skills coupled with supreme confidence is horrifying. The implications of such a mindset as well as the broader meta-narrative of so many human beings who experience reality on such an incoherent level, makes me shudder. These people sit in nuclear weapons silos, they head governments, and determine fate of nations. Ugh!
Our nation was founded as a constitutional republic, but turned into dumbocracy pretty fast.
@@blondequijote When you have to shove political talk into something for no reason at all.
Congressperson Boebert, anyone?
I don't think you should worry about it too much. Ignorance has been a part of the human experience for pretty much our entire existence. Yet, here we are. We'll be fine.
Unfortunately this kind of blind confidence and extreme dedication to one's own convictions can also make one a billionaire if they fall upon the right soil.
I think you'd have an easier time teaching a cat geometry than getting a point across to this woman.
They did teach a Gorilla sign language once! Her IQ was about 96, so smarter than this lady.
Nah, I reckon Quantum Physics
Cats already know geometry. THAT’S why trying to teach them is futile.
Need evidence? How else would they know EXACTLY where to step to trip you?
From this, I suspect they know physics as well.
@@joeaddison7120 I'll do you one better: A cat knows exactly the volume of a container, so that it will fit in it! The almighty Internet shows this! :D
Listen here buddy, cats know geometry. Don't insult them😑.
I believe this woman is a person whose thinking has been eliminated from brainwashing 😂
First 5 minutes and I'm convinced April has no clue how analogies work
15 minutes in and I'm not sure she knows how *_time_* works
Holy fucking shit I just got to the end. "Homo sapiens never existed bruv" WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCK LADY THEN WHAT ARE YOU?!
There's a lot of stuff beyond science and religion she doesn't understand... like basic logic and how thinking and talking works.
@@Nekotaku_TV I gasped and actually choked on my coffee when she said Homo sapiens never existed. Her ignorance is physically dangerous to the health of others even only indirectly exposed to her 😂
You spelt reality wrong
I’m so glad that there are patient people such as yourself helping people like this.
There is no help for her
Unfortunatly there is no helping her. Shes the case of someone so deep in religion they will never be able to think for themsleves.
She can't be helped, it can only help and entertain others.
he aint the most patient lol, see: video title
At 21:33, he absolutely is not, lmao.
I love when they fall back to the “why do you talk so much about something you don’t believe in?” As if it’s some kind of “gotcha”?
April was refusing to understand what you were saying. We all know it's because she believes it and it scares her that it might be wrong. She's utterly terrified of facing her indoctrination
You can tell every time the cognitive dissonance is bothering her because she seemingly intentionally misses the contradictions in her own arguments, even when peterson presents them to her in a clearly comprehensible manner. Either she's doing it intentionally, or she's just really dumb.
Your patience here is amazing.
April , and the billions, (possibly millions) like her, are the reason many con artists are millionaires .. :(
Why is it so important for them to define who (or what) created the universe without actually studying the actual science behind it? Do they feel good at night going to sleep knowing sky daddy did it? That's just like me finding peace knowing Luke Skywalker's force spirit is somewhere out there.
Because God is a stop gap for knowledge. It's used as a way to subvert thought. For them, the God hypothesis is enough to answer any questions, so they expect it to be enough for other people. God is something that stands in for knowledge and makes it so that they don't have to look deeper.
This was extremely painful, sorry you had to sit through that.😭
It’s not like it was an accident
I've never witnessed a mind so thoroughly, so terminally poisoned by religion. It's like her faith completely amputated her ability to think and use logic. Gotta admit - in a way it's very impressive.
Happens in relationships too. It is unhealthy attachment, this time to an imaginary being that fulfils some of her human needs (a partner incapable of betraying or leaving). You will have better luck convincing a stalker who is obsessively in 'love' with a celebrity that the celebrity does not love them back. In that case, at least, the celebrity exists for sure.
I'm not convinced she was smart before religion. I think Christianity attracts dumb people more than it makes people dumb.
Someone please tell this woman that "My pastor said that science says X" and "Science says X" are not the same sentence like...at all XD Because I'm pretty sure when she says "Science says X" she really means that her pastor says that's what science says lol :P
That question “have you ever seen an ape turn into a human?” Is sooooooo stupid. How would you see that?
People like Kent hovind barf it up then their flocks spread the bull
Whenever someone asks me that I just ask them if they've ever seen a bird turn into a chicken or if they've ever seen a dog turn into a chihuahua.
@@ThorsDecree only in Pokémon
@@cwack12 😂 that made me choke on my coffee
Humans are a type of ape. 😂
So an ape turning into an ape is a bit of a confusing one.
I always wonder where the intermittend bad audio quality comes from, it seems to not affect the participants at that moment.
Internet connection issue, sounds like. Upload is slower than download on asynchronous connections, hence the guest never sounding crackly.
Same. Seems really weird. Might be an issue with the recording / compression? mp3 with a bitrate of 20? ^^
Though as far as I know Eric actually does Tiktok livestreams, so it may be just the recording of those. Though, it's still weird that only the recording is affected.
@@Bunny99s Could be a compression artifact, sure, but if it was we'd expect it to be more consistent. The reason I'm hesitant to think it's upstream throughput limitation is because the video never seems to have issues. So it probably either has something to do with the microphone or audio compression somewhere in the pipe pre-stream. I'm really curious from a signal engineering perspective, but I have no idea what kind of setup he's using so can't definitively say much about it.
@@ThorsDecree But it can't really be a hardware issue since, as mentioned by the op, the participants usually can hear each other just fine. Also the issues are on both sides and usually at the same time, even though it's hard to tell every time since it's rare they both speak at the same time.
So it really feels like a third party has recorded this stream and the audio stream is loosing packets or something like that. There could be several reasons why the video is not affected / not noticably affected. Depending on the streaming protocol the data may be transmitted differently. Since the video throughput is much higher, if there's just a small interruption you may get a single glitched frame. However if the audio is streamed in chunk bursts, if one such burst is corrupted, we get messed up audio for a couple of seconds.
@@Bunny99s that checks out. I don't know how streaming works on TikTok, so no prior idea about how data is prioritized there. Thanks for the info.
I came into this halfway through on the live stream. Glad I could watch the whole thing to experience true pain
Oh and it WAS true pain!! What a potato!! 🤪☮️
@@ricktaylor14001 like bashing your head into a brick wall
@@JTfromVT It REALLY was! I can’t believe someone with access to the internet, Google at their fingertips, in 2023 and doesn’t know humans are animals, and says “homosapiens NEVER existed”‼️ How does one teach adulthood and not know these things??
@@ricktaylor14001a call you have to be in the mood for
What would be a miracle is if April could stfu for two seconds, not interrupt, actually listen and pay attention.
I agree she should do that, but Human psychology explains pretty well why she won't.
“No one knows Spanky.” How dare her-blasphemy!
"The reason Shrek exists is because he exists."
This lady's arguments in a nutshell.
I snapped when I heard ‘Evolution is just an idea, it’s just a theory.’ The ultimate self report
I actually get so mad. How can a someone say humans are intelligent and then say humans aren’t animals. That totally contradicts herself. Learn the taxonomy of animals and stop thinking that humans are so exceptionally smarter. Primates feature are that they are a little smarter and have a way with tools. She says humans are smart, how? Because we have phones? I’ve never seen her make a phone. Some people are smart. By actually finding out like Carl von linné and Isaac Newton. But then people learn from them. Humans just learn to act a certain way from others
It's a "miracle" that you were able to be so patient with this woman.
The patience this guy has is unbeatable 😂 how did you manage to hold for an hour
It's drives me crazy that the people who don't believe in evolution learned evolution from people who don't understand it or are actively trying to misrepresent it. They only hear what these things are from other people like them. The lack of education on these topics is severely lacking. We need more Planet Petersons to correct the misconceptions.
Or they’re Kent Hovind and use twenty year old 6th grade science textbooks to teach his followers.
So cringe when she laughs like she's right.
Viscerally so. I physically cringed to a near painful level each time.
Dunning Kruger.
She's so dumb that she's literally incapable of understanding how dumb she is.
Its always the ones who interrupt who get mad at being interrupted.
I was feeling a bit stupid today, then I watched this and felt better about myself. Her laughing to mask her ignorance is extremely painful.
Nah, you probably are stupid. We all are. -On all kinds of subjects. It takes a certain kind of arrogance to assert expertise in a subject on the grounds of your own ideas. Let's celebrate out stupidity by going out and finding out actual facts about the world, instead of relying on hearsay :)
It's impossible to win an argument against a stupid person.
Lol, the reasons why miracles have happened is because they have happened.
Great logic, lady.
When people get angry at the idea that we are animals, i always piss my pants laughing
41:02 An animal isn't a species. Which means humans and animals cannot be two different species. She clearly doesn't understand what an animal actually is. A chair isn't an animal, but a dog and a human are both animals.
HOW⁉️ How on earth do you have the patience for this⁉️ I have stated this on many of your videos, you are operating on a (pun intended) “god level” patience mode!! Hats off to you, there is simply no way I could do it without yelling at this piece of LEGO!
Keep ‘em coming Eric, your videos make me laugh (& cry & scream & hurt) every single time!! 🤪🤣👍🏼☮️
Ladies and gentleman
You just witnessed a brain washed woman
Totally Washed out of existence.
@@alphaghost9672 i understand people can believe in religion my whole family and lots of friends believe but they also are normal people. This person is unbelievably out of mind
Absolute smooth brain. It's not even brainwashing, it's pure stupidity. I do not know if she was ever educated, but even if, it was a waste of time.
Poor April. First the cruelest month, and now this.
She probably cannot grow lilacs either.
Dont forget Apuke Oniel from TMNT. That was gross.
She came into this conversation trying to win an argument, not have a civil debate and learn something. Absolutely absurd, you sir, have way more patience than i do.
Peterson doesn’t want that either and personally I’d find that boring sooo…
"Obviously, because it happened (the Big Bang) there has to be a reason, what is the purpose of humanity"? (1:20) This woman has to be the world non-sequitur champion.
this took an hour?????!!!!!
I think this falls under: "Never argue with idiots, it brings you down to their level and they win by default."?
Yep, that's where they can beat you with experience.
@@MadCowMusic that's what I mend "experience" and not "default" thank you.
I finally understand what dogs feel when they tilt their head.
“Why don’t people still talk about vampires” (28:30)
She’s joking right? There are entire groups and cults centered around vampires.
Also, the existence of vampires is GRANDLY more likely than the Abrahamic deity.
Honestly I'm more a vampire than she is a christian, I know significantly more about vampires than she knows about christianity, and I drink human blood, whereas she drinks wine at best.
Seeing as how vampiric creatures exist, you're right, it is more likely. I mean a human-sized creature would have to drink ungodly amounts of blood each day to live, but it's not physically impossible.
@@catpoke9557 If a human sized vampiric animal would exist, I'd wager they would require about 2L of blood food a day which is almost half as the human body contains.
Technically getting nutrition mostly or exclusively from drinking blood is what makes a vampire. If human guts could draw all the required nutrients from just blood, some of us would be real life vampires by choice.
@@catpoke9557Blood is toxic in large amounts you’d get iron poisoning I think.
She came out of the gates falling
Anyone who asks if you "know science?" does not know science
First name April, last name Fool
😂😂😂
"we have old scrolls" of all things sent me on a giggle fit.
44:42 So if there was a creature that was intelligent, but other than that was identical to a sunflower, that organism would not be a plant because they are smarter and special?
She also acts like "must be dumb lawl" is in the definition of an animal. In reality we're not even certain if humans are actually the smartest animal or if we just happen to have the right anatomy + environment to actually invent things.
The most frustrating part of conversations like this, is people like her ask for specifics like, "what was their name?", or "you weren't there", but aren't self aware enough to recognize that is literally the same question that destroys the evidence they think they have for their own position.
Humans aren't animals?
Well, I've always considered myself a pretty fun guy.
Whenever I get a nigerian letter I always wonder if there really still are people gullible enough for those. Now I don’t have to wonder anymore.
This woman is literally “I did eat breakfast this morning”
She can't even understand the questions, but is convinced she has the answers.
But how can you have copies without the originals?!
Spinal Tap: "we called ourselves 'The Originals' until we met another band called 'The Originals,' so we called ourselves, 'The New Originals.'"
And the award for the biggest amount of Patience goes to Eric Peterson 😅
Fam! You killed this!😂 Love your work.
I worked with people like this. It’s the most infuriating experience.
yeah that’s the thing we have to coexist with people like this. almost impossible
47:15 She seems to not understand categories. A human being can still be a human being while also belonging to the mammal and animal categories. "We need population on Earth we need to give birth!" is not an argument for not being a mammal at all. I'm not sure why she thought that would be convincing in any way. We could have been laying eggs instead, or planted seeds.
Yes we can know something happened without knowing how it happened.
If, f.i., I were to find the wreck of an burned car I know it was destroyed by fire somehow.
I would have no idea if it was set on fire, had an accidental electrical fault or caught fire because the sun was focused just right trough the wind shield or something.
Who is this April and how did this "conversation" come about in the first place? I'd love to hear some more of her pearls of wisdom
I was waiting for her to say "can you show me da way"
To give her a little credit, she didn't claim gawd wrote the Bible.
The fact she believes the bible says enough
Spike Milligan wrote the old testament
The ending is amazing!!!
Well well well, she really seems to struggle with hypothetical imperatives.
April thinks evolution is a prescribed path, like a ladder. Education is severely lacking where she lives.
The reason we only have copies is simple.
Paper and parchment etc degrade over time because of handling, rolling and storing them badly.
The copies were made because the originals were essentially crumbling away and becoming unreadable.
Then we made copies of the copies before they aged beyond readability.
And thats why only copies still exist.
We got a lot better at keeping books for long times but they still slowly decay and get lost.
That is why we are digitising a lot of them to preserve them as digital copies.
09:00 Oh my... I can't with these people. God created the universe, Zeus was a deity created by people. The only difference is that she believes in one, and doesn't believe in the other. There isn't any more or less evidence for either.
I lost how many times April doged questions and moved the goal post
This is the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen! I don’t want it to end!
Imagine someone asking, "how come we dont see wolves evolving from canidae today?"
Wlanet Weterson all the way. Idk how he has the patience for this amount of dishonesty and smugness. 😭
This reminds me about the question of how extremely primitive war machines would do against extremely futuristic advanced ones. Would the advanced designers even think to create defenses against the primitive?
So many times, she says something cripplingly stupid, and then laughs at him as if he said something stupid, like, people like April are making me lose hope for humanity.
The double standard is strong with her.
Going by her several uses of 'Bruv' during the conversation I think she may be British. I'd like to apologise on behalf of my entire country. Sorry :(
“Don’t be rude I wasn’t rude to you” as she laughs after every talking point bro made
Where did you read that?
“Science! I read it in science!”
Oh really? Where can I get a copy of this “science” you speak of?
47:07 "Are you a mammal?" **
My god (pun intended), how can anyone make it through this without getting furious. And then this smug laughter all the time.
I salute you to make it through this one, but she’s way way waaaaaay too brainwashed. I feel for her, i think it’s too late to salvage anything here unfortunately.
Thanks for trying anyway :)
My brain hurts so bad after this.
I can't help but feel like I just got the sh!t kicked outta me.
21:22 This wheel is round like a cookie "but you can't eat a wheel" I know but my point is they're both round I'm making an analogy "but you can't eat the wheel, you can eat a cookie" facepalm
Okay, I made it 15 minutes. I am proud of myself.
Ha! I made it 1 minute longer.
It is amazing to hear someone honestly say "Humans aren't mammals" is insane.
I heard someone argue w a Christian scholar with had a Harvard degree - insist that the world was six thousand years old because the bible said so - in spite of all evidence - It's called blind faith. There is no way to penetrate that darkness.
Whenever someone says that something can't come from nothing, my response is usually "How do you know?" While it's reasonable to say that something can't come from nothing, we've never had "nothing" (a complete lack of anything) to study. Something not coming from nothing is just as much of an assumption as saying nothing is an unstable concept and, by its nature, something will be produced, imo.
You obviously didn't search for nothing inside her skull then...
My grandpa was resurrected at the hospital after dying for a number of minutes.... Not taking April's side on this; just pointing out another obvious point she missed.
The exact same thing happened to my grandpa. Funny enough, he was a devout christian, yk what he told me he saw when he died? Nothing. He said it was like being asleep.
for the lens cap example, there are LOTS of things we cant know about it for sure (without an insane level of effort). like where did the glass come from, where was the silica for the glass sourced from. where did the materials for the grinding disc that was used to shape that lens come from. yet we can know aspects of its manufacture like a grinding disc was used to shape it.
I hope the caller rewatches this and can digest how stupid they are.
If *she* was capable of self-reflection, she wouldn't be in this position to begin with.
That's the saddest part, idiots like that exist, get to vote and they are too stupid to realize how stupid they are. They birth, they live and they die clueless.
All Hail Spanky, the great and holy one. All hail his great hippopotamusness.
You should have made clear you were saying that we don't have any original texts from the New Testament from anywhere close to when Jesus Lived. We have the Dead Sea scrolls, some of which have been dated to around the time of Jesus, and we have copies of the Old Testament - showing a considerable degree of variation.
But she was not equipped to have any reasonable conversation about any of this.
Really glad I made it to the "Homo Sapiens never existed portion"....I really needed that laugh today.
A theist strawmanning the expansion of the universe? Must be a day ending in "y."