Why Britain 🇬🇧 Can’t Face Reality Brexit Has Failed
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- Britain is stuck in a weird trance about #Brexit and is unable to talk about it clearly because many people still want to believe their dreams of a better life can be realised.
Clips from @FinancialTimes film, “We Need To Talk About Brexit”
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"Britain is stuck in a weird trance." This should read: "England is stuck in a weird trance." Scotland voted 62% - 38% to remain.
The UK is an unworkable Union. Time to end it.
Scotland also voted to stay in the union. As an Irishman that seems like utter madness. Scotland and Wales pretending to be countries, but are just regions of the UK. As such, if the majority of the UK, e.g. England, votes for something, that's what happens. Don't like that? Leave the union and become a sovereign state.
At least Northern Ireland is creeping ever closer to becoming part of the rest of Ireland. Silver linings where we find them.
@@clancywiggam Yes, but only after being told that leaving Britain would also mean leaving the EU.
@@clancywiggam it's possible that the failure of Brexit is putting a brake on support for independence in Scotland. It's proof that drastic change and cutting yourself off from your main trading partner can have negative impacts.
On the general point I'd agree that we in Scotland have not decided to become a proper independent country.
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If Brexit was working, those behind it would never shut their pie holes about its clear and obvious success.
Brexit is working. The money laundering in Londen and the offshore bank accounts of the rich and powerful are safe from scrutiny. However, the architects of Brexit can hardly shout that from rooftops, can they?
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
@@Jj-ff9vqYou keep telling yourself that Brexit is working. But go tell the farmers and fishermen to stop crying about their own problems and failures. Lol 😂
@@Jj-ff9vqso why does britain look so dirty and poor compared to Europe? Btw, the UK growth was revised downwards recently it is now under the Eurozone😂
Brexit isn't only bad for businesses & the economy, ir's also detrimental to British politics. It has allowed the dreggs at the bottom of the barrel to rise to the surface.
That is too pessimistic. Every tory Prime Minister seems to be better than next.
@@velisvideos6208 one wonder how bad they can get.......
The UK has become the world’s fourth largest exporter thanks to a boost in services, fresh trade figures have shown.
It comes after the UK ranked seventh in 2021, moving up three places in the figures for exporting goods and services in 2022, the United Nations (UN) has confirmed.
According to the latest statistics from the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), which leads on global trade for the UN, the UK has overtaken France, Netherlands and Japan to take fourth position, behind only China, the US, and Germany.
Business and trade secretary Kemi Badenoch welcomed the news, and said: “These new figures show how the UK is punching above its weight on trade, and is on track to reach our ambition of exporting a trillion pounds of goods and services a year by 2030.”
She added: “The appetite for world-class UK produce continues to grow and this government will keep supporting our brilliant businesses, helping to create more jobs, pay higher wages and grow the economy.”
@@markperrin8098 What a HUGE lie! Britain _was_ the world's fifth biggest economy and is now 6th having fallen behind India.
And Exports, Trade and the Economy are all down. If the UK is reeeeally lucky it might come out of recession later this year. With luck.
Who do you think actually believes your lies?
@@peterbreis5407 Update your pathetic propaganda.
Many economists have tried to estimate the losses from Brexit. It is often suggested that GDP is 4-6pc lower than it would have been. Such estimates require elaborate economic guesswork involving some heroic assumptions, principally that the UK would have continued on its previous path of outperformance against most other EU members.
In regard to what has actually happened, however, the facts are rather different. Since the Brexit vote in 2016, UK GDP is up by 8pc. The equivalent figures for France, Germany and Italy are 8.5pc, 5.8pc and 6.5pc respectively. And since the expiry of the Brexit transition period at the end of December 2020, the UK has outgrown not only France, Germany and Italy but also the US.
British exceptionalism. We have the same foolishness here in the USA. We both suffer from the same foolishness. It's hard to make arrogant people admit a mistake.
Both Angelsaxons mayby .
Each country has its fair share of exceptionalism but indeed, England and the USA take it to another level.
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
@@Jj-ff9vq BS
@@SJG-nr8uj well said. The EUs expansionist policy and its federal ideology is in part moving this world to nuclear war.
CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF 'IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM'!!
Exactly what is the elephant in the room!
And poor quality journalism at that time!
Doesn't help when the Engl#sh vot#rs are so slopey shouldered, and the shadow ban on comments on this channel as an example. No shame, no clue, vote blue
Yay, another comment shadow banned on this channel. Great work
Diplodocus in the room, not elephant.
Liz, as an Irishman I have total sympathy and agreement with your position. However, the nostalgic-for-empire Brexiters plus the cynical (English) oligarchs who deceive them remain the ultimate barriers to re-joining. The EU wants nothing to do with them.
I'm English, and I totally agree with you!
What you need to do, is stop coddling these people. As long as you coddle them, they can keep lying to themselves.
Sent them to Rwanda!
@@viper_fanRwanda has suffered enough
@@viper_fan Rwanda is not your dumping ground. Keep your garbage dumping in your own waters.
When Labour states 'make Brexit work' because something as simple as openly mentioning the failure of Brexit in the UK equals 'spooking the voters', then it's very clear (to me, at least) that the UK as a nation hasn't even begun to start dealing with the Brexit trauma. The population apparently keeps switching between the stages of anger, denial, bargaining and depression. With the acceptance-stage still very much out of reach. Which is sad because imo this will only hinder a future UK's way back into the EU, and it will continue to decrease the UK's global relevance.
The toxic Tory media and their propaganda brainwashing machine is the reason.
The EU won't consider the UK's return until 70% of the UK supports it. That will take at least a generation.
@@bwalla50 The UK will also need the Copenhagen Criteria and will have to be voted in unanimously by all EU member states. This taking only a generation seems optimistic.
@@bwalla50 Less. Brexit support PEAKED at 37% and that was in the silly advisory vote treated as a referendum.
@@maartenaalsmeerStarmer's responsible for Labour's calamitous defeat in 2019.
£145 plus vet fees, delays, paperwork. Food shortages coming soon.
Thank god they don’t need a vet to certify turnips
Turnips v financial services, like pissing in the ocean. There is absolutely no way agriculture is the silver bullet for rejoin
Food shortages where all is see is obese people in the uk.
hudge opportunity for Americans to take over the British economy
@@piotrwojdelko1150 America did that when the uk was in the eu and the eu did nothing to stop it.
There are no benefits. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Thanks gammons. Own it.
The only benefit of Brexit is, now we know how many gullible idiots vote
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
@@roelkomduur8073 Truth hurting you again?
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
@@Jj-ff9vq What "truth"that you're a fool or a bot?
Brexit works as designed by the disaster economists Roger Bootle and Patrick Minford who opined that the loss of the farming and manufacturing industries was a price worth paying for Brexit. So it hasn't failed. People were duped into Brexit and cannot admit to their mistake. What needs to be addressed is the manipulative press owned by people who benefit from the misery of millions of people
After the "Nuremberg trials" uk can begin to heal.
@@ulfosterberg9116 We don't let them on the continent-no "Nürnberg" FOR THEM! **G**
You cannot equal or replicate the benefits and advantages of EU membership without EU memberhsip. End of story! That is why I agree the term that Starmer is occupying a holding position. In government, Labour absolutely cannot continue to ignore the obvious damage of leaving the EU and must seek to repair the damage.
Labour will work, QUIETLY, to do everything they can to fix the damage the Tories did with Brexshit.
You right, but it will take years and years if not more ! 😢
In the days of the empire, Britain was treated differently.
The mentality that still discusses trade advantage/disadvantage as the core issue, is yet again missing the point.
The EU is a peace project. It removes trade as a factor leading to political tension. It comprehensively addresses all the trade-impacting aspects of life within the EU.
We would not wish a divided, partly regretful, partly persuaded Britain to reapply. The change of heart has to be deeper than that. We want an enthusiastic partner, and Britain isn't anywhere near that just now.
The EU is a war project. Not deliberately, of course, but try telling the Poles, the Hungarians or the Greeks that all major governmental policy decisions will be made in Brussels, by a government they can never vote into or out of office! You are heading for absolute disaster, entirely of your own megalomaniac creation.
So, the 'EU is a peace project' directly responsible for the war between Ukraine and Russia.
This is one of the BEST replies. Indeed those english are only eagerly looking for low habging fruit to pick. They assume everybody is favorably addressable because they get a reply in english. Of course they are too stupid to understand that the real stuff escapes them because real stuff done is not in english .
C'mon let's not be so downbeat - another 750 years and we'll have turned the corner !
@@SJG-nr8ujFarage has said the EU is going too collapse for years. Still waiting.
As little as I think Brexit was a good idea I have to respect this sentiment. Stiff upper lip. Very well said.
But Liz. Liz, Liz, Liz, Liz, Liz. They knew what they were voting for. Every brexiteer was saying this a while ago. When you know what you were voting for, you win and then you get it, it isn't a disaster.
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
The Brexit campaign was the application of extremist and authoritarian methods of population manipulation. If you want to change a system then do the following.
1) Hurt the people (Austerity)
2) People in pain get angry. Angry people are easier to influence with lies.
3) Tell the people that their pain is due to XYZ (in this case, the EU). We saw the effort put into this by the leavers. Use emotions. Emotions are very easy to appeal to, especially with "quick fix" promisses, not matter how impossible they are in reality.
4) Promise the people that your policy will make life better for them. Promise them riches and happiness. The more pain they are in then the more attractive the offer.
5) rinse and repeat.
Brexit. The greatest own goal in the history of democracy.
they didnt want brown people and the bankers and wealthy didnt want the regulations.
congrats.
brexit is running as intended
Even worse that H8's break with Rome and the Dissolution of the monasteries (that at least cared for the poor).
Seems to me like most Brits have a very short memory, or have never imported or exported anything (most likely the latter). Border controls were phased out within the EU for a very good reason. I can remember crossing the border into Northern Ireland from the Republic in the 80's. It involved paying a customs clearance agent and waiting at British customs for 4 hours just to get a document stamped after which came the inevitable search. It was a 6 hour wait to cross the border. I crossed into Poland from the Ukraine a couple of months ago, and we drove for 45 mins past a queue of trucks waiting to cross the border into the EU. Who in their right mind would vote for that, thinking it would be a benefit to their trade with anybody? And yet we hear that the EU are mistreating the British seeking revenge for Brexit. Absolute horseshit. That's how it was before the vote, and that's how it is after the vote. That's what you voted for. Take back control? of what your borders? The British border isn't in France. It's in the middle of the English channel exactly where your border patrols pick up the boats. The French aren't responsible for stopping people from leaving France. You wanted to control your borders, well there you go, control them yourselves. Britain thought of nobody but the British with Brexit (which is fair enough) by why are you surprised when other countries do likewise and protect THEIR interests? Your trade deals with the ex colonies of the Empire will be entertaining too. Don't think for one min that they will look favourably on "The Mother country". They are well aware of how they were treated when Britain had the upper hand. They know that THEY now have the upper hand in any trade deals and will squeeze every ounce of blood they can from any deals done. Remember, the Empire benifited nobody but the British, and countries that were raped of their wealth like India will not be shy in putting their term on any deals. I feel sorry for the individuals who could see what was going to happen and voted no, but got dragged down by the gullible majority, but as a nation, I just think that you made your bed, I hope you can get comfortable in it because you will be in it for a long time.
Brilliantly worded. The low reply number underscores the truth of your words.
No sympathy for brexitards
Neither do I but they have taken us down with them... So I do like to think we should point a finger at them and call them out.
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality.
What Remainers don't understand is that we voted for freedom! We are now free of the EU and have restored democracy to the UK! I think we all sleep easier now we are out, as we are able to strike trade deals that benefit us and can control our borders!
@@Jj-ff9vq Our productivity is way below all of the G20 countries, and your prose is bullshit
@@Jj-ff9vq Where do you live? The economic losses caused by Brexit in the UK are in the range of three to five percent of gross domestic product. The Brexit promise that fewer people would come to the British island after the end of EU freedom of movement was not fulfilled. In 2022, 745,000 people came to Great Britain as net immigrants, significantly more than the 212,000 annually that the Conservative government wanted to stay below in its 2019 election manifesto. Prices for fruit and vegetables, but also dairy and meat products, will rise over the course of the year because previously postponed border controls for food imports from the EU are now actually coming into force and increasing bureaucratic effort and import costs. Just part of the chaos on the island.
There is no short term solution for Brexit. Fulfill Copenhagen Criteria, then we might talk. Before that, the EU has more important things to do.
The UK is disqualified to talk to, when the contracts and agreements are not worth the paper they are printed upon.
The UK needs to regain trust.
That will be costly and time consuming.
The earlier you start the work, the faster you will get results.
The EU is neither forced to rescue you, nor will it act against its own interests.
Enjoy your Orban.
Unfortunately Realmash you are correct. The many different areas of rebuilding trust, reassurance and integrity my country has to demonstrate to the EU member states is depressingly far reaching.
Farge, Johnson, Cameron et al, must surely retain the dubious honour as the most selfish, stupid, deceitful lowlife in British history.
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
@@AlexGys9 I don’t need it. And can do without it. You can’t do without Orban - he is there. So have a bit of humility, if you know what it is.
@@Jj-ff9vq Tell this rubbish to Brits. They are just going to throw the government into the bin for all their “achievements”.
Looking at history Brexit is the best decision Britain ever made! For the EU. It silenced tight wing parties all over the continent. No one is talking about leaving anymore. It accelerates decision making and opens up opportunities for adjustment and dialogue inside the EU. Brexit forged a closer union among the remaining members while at the same time creating more room for decision making and implementing things on a national level.
Yes in the Netherlands the biggest anti-eu party stopped talking about Nexit. It was put in the "refrigerator" . I have heard in other countries Belgium and France it is not a topic anymore.
Liz! You do an amazing job to tell the results of Brexit! 👍😊
The EU is more than trade. It is not only about money.
But the Brits want to cherry pick only the Trade part and if possible for free.....😂
@@klausschumacher7126 Not anymore. In fact so far the Uk has been quite bad at trade deals. Cherry picking days are over with.
A perfectly predictable outcome. The EU commission has been negotiation all trade deals for all members in EU in the customs union for many decades. They are very good at what they do and that is why the deals take a long time to finish because every issue has to be acceptable for all now 27 members. This is the first time UK has to do it on its own. Quotas that UK had stayed in EU and Japan did not want to expand the cheese quota at all for another competitor to their own cheese industry. " Talk with EU if they have any leftover of their quota" was what Japan suggested to Truss.
@@trident6547I'm sure were devastated about cheese exports to lactose intolerant Japan😂
"Well, for starters, the UK can begin by paying £350 million every week along with an apology for all the lies. Then we might consider talking with the UK again."
The UK is decades away from asking to join the EU. Save your bile meantime.
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
@@Jj-ff9vqI hope you are joking, no one can be that dumb.
@@Jj-ff9vq In your dreams - You poor deluthered dupe.
The EU will be 10% of the global economy in 2030. 😆
Perhaps very few of us, including Remainers, could conceive of what it would look like to live in an economy or society that might collapse. Hence 'Project Fear'. 5 years ago, Johnson negotiated a de facto 'No deal' exit from the EU & within 5 years, we have already forced Labour to concede the need for closer alignment and 'rule-taking'. I don't think it will be enough - UK must be inside the Single Market + Customs Union - but it is a total sea change in a short space of time. The Tories are exactly where Labour was in the early 1980s now. I would infer that BrexitShambles can never be made to work as long as the EU continues to exist, which it MUST.
In the meantime, I just don't know what is going to happen with UK farming without re-join. Sell up to big Megafarms like you have in USA & Australia? It is very worrying to see farmers so anxious and furious.
It'll never happen, so, get on with your life
I like it. I am sick of hearing how politicians have let us down. No it was the people whot done it and they knew what they were doing. it's not as if they were not warned. We tried words and they did not work so now we have to let reality do it's work. I know it's painfully but without this we have a kind of Democratic moral jeopardy. So let's watch them enjoy their sovereignty and try not to wet ourselves on election night.
brexit feels like england working out that it was a horrible soul wrecking empire, wanting the power back, but not wanting to talk about the horrible soul wrecking empire.
Brexit cultists is their name
Our PMI is way over the Eurozone.
Our employment is way above Eurozone.
Our food is on average 8% cheaper than in Europe.
We have had record wage growth.
We have enjoyed record exports.
Thats the truth.
This is just a weak propaganda channel.
You lost. Learn to accept your new reality
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
@@Jj-ff9vq🌄🦄 They're just over the hill.Keep believing.😂
@@user-im8us6sg5d
Facts always trump EU fiction
@@Jj-ff9vq Cutting and pasting the same old, same old doesn't make you correct. Think for yourself. If you can.
Just to put something in (perhaps a psychological) perspective...it's quite revealing how people in UK still speak of 'the EU' or 'europeans,' or 'our 'partners' etc etc . Europe it seems, for UK'ers, is still something 'else,' something 'other' its another entity/place/ at arms length ... In Ireland that kind of language/phraseology is long gone replaced with 'us' and 'we' rather than 'them over there!' Perhaps this is what journalist Fintan OToole, of the I.T. (Irish Times) meant when he said 'Brexit is the mirror into which the British & mainly English need to look to find answers about themselves.'
That was exactly where the problem with BREXIT lay. This was from
...In Ireland that kind of language/phraseology is long gone replaced with 'us' and 'we' rather than 'them over there!' ...
but Tory and Labor promoted the distance from the EU! The GB politicians were always saying that the GB was something special and better than the EU. Now that they are faced with the mirror of reality, they see the opposite. This, in front of the world, is the worst thing a country and its citizens have to endure.
So now please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@w47w Interesting spelling of "Labor" ... are you American? You are mistaken in your assessment. The British government always argued against adoption of the euro (for which Denmark also has an opt-out) and Schengen (for which Ireland also has an opt-out) on the basis that the British electorate was majority euro-sceptic. That doesn't mean we thought we were better, just that the UK government would not be able to get their introduction past a sceptical British electorate, in other words political suicide.
The EU were looking forward to a Remain victory, not least because that argument of euro-scepticism would have been demolished. So they had lined up the euro and Schengen for the UK following a Remain victory, elements of EU membership that not a single Remainer thought they were voting for. The EU were going to take a Remain victory as a ringing endorsement of all its policies and were particularly looking forward to playing soldiers with HM Armed Forces. They already had a term for the Royal Navy - "Strategic Enablers".
@@SJG-nr8uj If we were wrong in our assessments, then tens of English companies would now be bankrupt and their remaining jobs would be gone!
The EU was well prepared for any eventuality when it came to BREXIT and CO. But they were also amazed that GB and their politicians were so stupid and thought they would get bilateral contracts like Switzerland! None of the top economists and bankers we know believed that before.
In Denmark it was a completely different case where right-wing idiots like GB were running the game! Danes were on the same BREXIT steamer because of rights. Today they are happy not to take part in a happy sinking ala GB BREXIT! Today, over 80% of them are happy that they are also EU citizens. In 2016 their low point was thanks to right-wing Farage hate triads.
As much as there is talk about BREXIT in the UK, EU citizens are less interested in it, around 5-1%!
Well over 80% were interested in the EU citizen survey by the EU in BREXIT Hammer in the direction of GB, which then hit!
In 2-4 years the full extent of the BREXIT disaster will become apparent.
GB staying versus not staying is what EU BREXIT means
....see the EU as a confirmation of their entire policy...
Best thing that could have happened in all respects, as we now know.
Oh yes, the U stands for everything kicked in the bucket!
@@w47w The EU wants economic union complete by 2027. That means one big economy. It requires a central, federal government to run it, set tax rates etc., therefore the political unification of all member states, and the reduction in their status to that of a federal province. In advance of this the EU is now working on fiscal union.
This should have been explained to the British electorate in 2016, but was deliberately not explained to them. The unification of member states' armed forces, under command of the European Council, was also not explained. The EU is therefore, a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam, which, in the absence of a democratic mandate from the peoples of Europe to proceed in this way, is a disaster waiting to happen.
Scotland has known the reality since day one and brexit has been regularly discussed for the disaster it is.
Now we are getting to the core of the problem - Well said Liz -
People cannot ignore the elephant sitting in the middle of the room forever
I am going to assume that this denial of reality is why farmers still wont criticise Brexit - just everything it has brought with it
labels, food supply, subsidies, cheap imports
It's not an elephant. It is a red bus.
@@viper_fan it's a big , big red elephant sitting in an even bigger red bus stearing to the cliff !!! and they will succeed in driving over it !! well done UK !!!
I saw the same thing. I was utterly baffled that this woman did not dismiss Brexit outright.
Her husband must love he very much ❤
Me too.Explains a lot ;)
In Dutch they say " she wants to have a finger in the porridge" but in this case she get struck on her fingers by the EU .
You can not make brexit work. Its one disaster after another . Absolutely shocking self harm.
Brexit did work - it was the act of UK leaving the EU. The UK is not a member of the EU so Brexit worked. If you still don't believe Brexit worked Google: _Members of the EU_
Uk got to. There is no way back in your lifetime.
@@ulfosterberg9116 The people of the UK don't want to go backwards - so don't worry about the UK.
there is not much to negotiate for starmer. I believe that the European Union has already made it clear several times that it is not interested in strengthening ties with the UK.
the eu does not want site deals with the uk the eu does not want to renegotiate the trade agreement.
It’s not EU who isn’t interested, it’s you. But you, unlike EU, can be ignored.
Facing global threats from Putin and China, Europe needs to be united more than ever. Everyone who disrupts the unity is Putin’s agent.
@@someoneno-one7672 _It’s not EU who isn’t interested_ So you claim the EU is interested, tell me: how is that interest shown? There are talks in the UK about renegotiating the TCA. If the EU were interested in a closer relationship (as you claim) them why has EU Vice-President Maros Sefcovic clearly stated in september 2023 that the 2026 review is exactly that: *a review of the implementation* of the TCA and *not* a renegotiation. That the review “does not constitute a commitment to reopen the TCA”. Brexit is done and the EU moved on. It's the UK that still struggles with the aftermath of Brexit, but that is a *domestic* UK problem and not a EU problem.
@@maartenaalsmeer EU is surely not interested in negotiating anything either the incompetent and untrustworthy Conservative U.K. government. That is to change within a year.
EU is surely deeply interested in strengthening their security, defence and size of economy in the world dominated by the likes of Xi and Putin, and domestic politics by likes of AfD and Orban.
EU is interested in more opportunities for their citizens, few millions of who are still living, studying and working in U.K.
EU is interested in cooperation in science, engineering etc. EU is interested in better business opportunities, EU is interested in better access to a 66 million strong market at their doorstep.
Seriously, if EU isn’t interested in U.K. converging (and joining in the future), why would EU be interested in anything from Slovenia to Ukraine to Georgia?
@@someoneno-one7672 Your security argument is moot. The UK doesn't have to be in the EU to be a defence ally. And there's also NATO, still. Wishful thinking is doing most of the heavy lifting in your arguments. What the EU is interested in is unity and stability. And that's not something the current UK has on offer. Who knows, maybe in 20-30 years.
@@maartenaalsmeer Of course, EU enjoys a lot of unity and stability with Orban, Kaczynski, Fico and others. Starmer would be sooo disruptive comparing to those nice EU politicians!
EU doesn’t need anything, it just has got a 66-million strong market on its doorstep with close standards and practices and, btw, one of the strongest jurisdictions in existence. It is silly not to take better access to such a market if an opportunity is provided.
One thing are good in EU - they are not Waltersobchakeit. They negotiate when approached. 😉
Should never have been done on a 50/50 vote. If it had needed a 60/40 vote it would have been better. All the vote did was split the population right down the middle.
well said
Problem with a requirement for a super majority in referendums is that some votes are worth more than others
It was a glorified opinion poll. There was no requirement to act on the result whatever it was.
@@katywalker8322 I’d say, the government had a moral obligation to further consult the public if there was any way of leaving that public liked more than remaining. And that would have been the end of the story.
@@someoneno-one7672 that would have required a competent government, rather than ones just wanting power for powers sake.
They went out of their way to avoid any consultation, even trying to suspend parliament to stop any discussion on it.
Brexit can't be reversed. If anything because no one in the EU is willing to go through all of this again. UK left, not ideal but sorted. The EU is not a pub where you come and go when you want
I can’t remember who said it, but I think the whole Brexit thing is most well summed up by…first time in history that a country imposed sanctions on itself. 😜
This is THE reason why you won't seed the inside of EU or the Single Market for decades to come.
This Brexit debate will go on forever... Problems Problems Problems...Solution ? Join the EU..End Of Problems...
But EU don’t want them back!!!
Come back but without any exemption of our rules.
Pollution created by round trip 15,000 mile shipping alone is a catastrophe
Yeah, an environmental catastrophe on top of a disaster.
Wtf does global britain mean ffs?
Like most things Brexit related, the adequate description would be: global britain means global britain!
There are no real world explanations, everything is within a small bubble and self referring! Others outside the UK can play the same game, so from EUrope - out means out!!
The term was imo mostly used by Brexiters when describing the possibilities of 'trading all over the world!'
Not only do I live in global Britain, but I’ve got my Brexit freedoms too. The trouble is I’m trapped in this stupid country where bone heads get to vote for….global Britain and Brexit freedoms.
@@maartenaalsmeer Trading all over the world. Well, the two biggest trading partners of Germany are China and the USA - last time i checked, both were not EU members 🤣🤣
@@maartenaalsmeer the thing that the Brexit morons failed to understand was there was absolutely nothing stopping any UK business trading with any other country in the world while we were members of the EU But instead they preferred to make it more difficult and expensive to trade with our closest partners and were too thick to actually do any sort of research.
BRexit has not failed. A few currency speculators made a killing on referendum night. A small number have been able to continue laundering money and avoid taxes, what else was it ever going to do?
Brexit is like a drunken uncle - we just pretend he isn't there even when he messes up.
When literally a quarter of the population impose a decision on such a sensitive issue you begin to realise politically the country is finished as is its economy.
The core of the problem is the enormous power of the press barons who are still able to weld enormous influence over the British public to forward their own political agenda. They make it almost impossible to have a grown up rational debate on Brexit, which is why Labour avoid debating this issue at all costs.
Ooh, look, someone who wants a "grown-up rational debate on Brexit"! Then please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. (Labour knows all about this stuff, by the way, which is why we're not going back in).
@charliebryce3783 Absolutely spot on.The EU on the verge of inspecting and introducing laws regarding the tax havens and off shore bank accounts of the rich.No self respecting multi millionaire owner of a paper/media is going to want their tax affairs investigated. Personal selfishness was their aim,not for the benefit of the Country.They whole heartedly backed Brexit ,so how can they now openly admit it's been a disaster.?
The true believers in Brexit are never going to abandon their religion come what may. As for the Labour Party, in spite of their massive lead in the opinion polls, they are still shy of saying boo to a ghost, in case it upsets the voters. But privately, they know that Brexit can’t be made to work, and once in power, they will be working, bit by bit, to unpick it.
The problem is Brexit cannot be unpicked bit by bit. It can only be tinkered with in a very minor fashion.
@@Purple_flower09 The first thing which will need doing is to negotiate regulatory alignment and mutual recognition of standards with the EU. That in itself will help to relieve the pressures businesses are labouring under, and it will be in the UK and EU’s mutual interest, although rather more for the UK than the EU.
Leavers will never acknowledge it's not working, that's a fact indeed.
We had to take an economic hit in order to escape your beloved giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam. The fact that we escaped proves that it worked, because it saves us having to fight a war of independence.
Denial is the first stage of grief. We’ve suffered a major loss, and they k ow it, hence why they are trying to deny it.
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
UK is stuck in denial. Let´s hope it is not forever for UK´s sake.
It is a harsh reality that keeping farming alive and thriving in Europe, including Britain, requires substantial subsidies, e.g. for modernisation, environmental measures and innovation. Subsidies also mean regulations. On the governmental side, i.e. the taxpayers' side, this means it takes up a significant portion of the budget, directly and indirectly. On the farmers' side it means more restrictions and difficulty to (quickly) grow their business, but at least their business are reasonably protected to survive practically indefinitely.
Losing farming is an unwise strategy to pursue by any country/economic bloc. Domestic farming keeps their markets less dependent on import and keeps agricultural knowhow at the cutting edge. In exchange, the voters need to accept that it costs the government a lot of money and farmers need to accept that in any advanced economy with limited resources their businesses aren't able to grow, or even survive without the support of government handouts and elaborate regulations (i.e. 'red tape bureaucracy') that primarily exists to protect them.
Retaining and upgrading farming rather than 'saving' farming is vital to Britain, regardless Brexit consequences. But everyone involved should understand they all need eachother desperately to make it all work properly and everyone has to give before even thinking about taking.
On subject, moving the UK into re-entering the EU market 'as it used to' is the smart way to carry the burden of retaining farming in their default toolbag of tricks and not just for farming. But regardless, HMG still needs to keep its obligation to compensate british farming, not necessarily the same as individual farmers or their businesses, for having lost EU-driven subsidies and their protective regulations with lots of money. Making up for the sizs of the loss of the EU market is realistically not within Britain's control. UK farming and british politics has to focus on farming's sheer survival and forget about any growth of agro-businesses.
Good points, well made sir. Farmers are the defacto preservers of nature and countryside, including water resources and with changing climate patterns their job will get harder and more expensive to implement and thus NEED proper carefully planned assistance.
This is one of my frustrations also , brexit has failed so comprehensively yet no one is talking about it .
This is why I beleive brexit was done not for the reasons given but for other reasons of which we the people will never know .
It's a monumental mistake and needs to be reversed if we are ever going to get back on track .
Sympathy for them.... No we don't.... They were informed, they made their decision.... And most won't acknowledge they made a mistake.... And made it a lot more difficult for us.
It is a sad place if we can only get people on baord if we allow them to sugercoat their dumbness.
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
Why should I give sympathy for getting dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming. I’m not an expert but I could see the failure looming. The government acts like it’s the emperor’s new clothes. It’s made my life and everyone young life’s worse for the future. Pure laziness to vote Brexit for some, for others greed
Because if we are to fix the country, we need to wake up those who got conned and we can only do that by being gentle. Just as Sue’s husband did in this film by saying he understands why people voted Brexit.
WE cannot fix the country, we vote for our representatives to do what's best for the country. The trouble is, one party is ideological and brought us the mess of Brexit, and the other party refuses to acknowledge just how badly the mess is BECAUSE of Brexit.
@@lizwebstersbf they’ll wake up when things get worse and they will. I can not bare to be in the same room as these people. At the time of Brexit they shouted abuse and profanities at remainders.
@@lizwebstersbf I agree wholeheartedly. There is so much sour and nasty stuff around with the Brexit problem. People in EU countries crowing and sneering, British people at each other's throats and blaming. It doesn't help.
@@lesleyrobertson5465 yes those who wanted Brexit were angry. One nearly punched me in the face. But all that has largely dissipated now.
The woman at 3:25 who thought there’d be less red tape? How on earth did a businesswomen fall for that lie? Utterly baffling.
Being IN the EU so many things just happen almost automatically so unless you encounter an issue you are often not aware how much 'homework' has gone on before to help you. IF you were involved in writing out C88 customs documents (for the USA or other non EU countries then the burden is not great BUT has come as a nasty shock for those that only traded with EU partners.
She was told the UK held all the cards, that the EU negotiations were the easiest in history, and that the red tape she now has to fill in was just Project Fear
After all, it makes perfect sense. It is human nature to resist admitting that one got it all wrong.
The one who over 30 years ago wrote a brilliant book about Brexit and its consequences was totally ignored, so in the end Britain got Brexit.
Moral: listen before you act.
What book?
"Brexit, the book" is already on the shelfs?
When I read what the UK government comes up with, I am reminded of the dark times of communism in Poland and similar stupid ideas of the communist government in Poland until 1989! We know how it ended - with a disaster!! I don't know where the UK government has any sense, but it's enough to read the stories of other countries and not repeat their mistakes. Why make the same mistakes?
It’s because they keep believing they are way too good to get their arse handed back to them.
They seriously think, it was not working for others only because others were not as good at everything as them.
The FT video contianed a lot of cherry picking wich Liz Webster has edited out. Many of the editors of FT were also living in lala land with their ideas of creating a freedom of movement for specific groups of people in UK.
You can't fix the problem if you refuse to admit there is a problem.
Why did so many farmers vote for Brexit?!
Difficulty exporting dinosaurs; a fantastic metaphor for Brexit.
In what way?
@@Iazzaboyce In the way Brexit is perceived within Britain, and from outside. Brexit was an insular nationalist program peddled by populists promising to resurrect past glories. It simply has no relevance to the outside world. Yet post Brexit even liberal media commentators in Britain still asked EU officials if they missed Britain, and wanted it back? What an odd waste of time. Yet I still do not see evidence that the mindset within the British media or establishment is changing. Kier Starmer's statement about making 'Brexit work' is clear enough proof of that.
The farmers drove through London with one important thing missing 🚜 🤔 💭 Big posters saying Stuff Brexit Rejoin the EU 🇪🇺
Starmer is right, it will take at least a generation before England and Wales are becoming EU members again. In the meantime you have to make the best of it.
Britain has admitted that. Only individuals and officials don't.
At least Starmer won’t have to pander to the ERG.
All of the members of the ERG will have retired and moved to their chateaus in France, probably next door to Andrew Neill (so he can advise them on writing for the Daily Telegraph).
Economic Ruin Group.
Liz, the current implementation of Brexit is by no means the most extreme possible. Remember that some proponents wanted to trade with the EU on WTO terms only, and wanted to have no trade border between NI and GB (which, in their mind, would force the EU to kick RoI out of the Single Market). Nowadays, the same Brextremists want UK to leave the Council of Europe too.
Of course, this would have amounted to an open trade war and, quite likely, to Johnson being lynched (and eaten?) by a hungry mob.
So, while today’s Brexit is by no means the most extreme possible, it’s still a hard Brexit and the most extreme UK government could afford.
The EU graciously allowed 12 significant changes that Leaving would mean to be suspended for several years, Brexiteers forget how genrerous the EU has been to the UK to allow this because the Article 50 calls for immediate suspension of ALL rights that the leaving country had accrued. Stoppind ALL Flights and ferries to/from the UK would have been catastrophic for the UK but Article 50 effectively states that this SHOULD have happened.
The final step of British decadence that had only been delayed by the lie that the UK be as powerful as the US just because of the language. So silly and self-deceiving.
We DO need to make them accept they got it wrong. Sorry not sorry. They need to understand why they screwed up so they won't repeat the problem again. The reason we're in this mess is because of ego and people who voted emotionally, linked their ego to the vote. They can't bring themselves to accept their mistake because it would mean they are unable to understand. They can't handle that. So they'd rather keep ploughing on hoping things work out than admit it was a failure. Because that would admit they have failed.
If you can make Brexit work, you should go on and nail a pudding to the wall.
The EU will collapse within a couple of years of economic union. The EU wants economic union complete by 2027. The UK will not be part of their giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam, and neither will other countries. The EU just doesn't know that yet. When they find out, all hell will break loose. That's when all these people on here will be telling their grandchildren: "Of course I saw it coming, and that's why I voted leave"!
Labour needs to turn Brexit on its head.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Immigration to the UK has NOT reduced post Brexit, it has gone up!
travelling in Europe I love the Euro. Most of your other points are Farage/Right Wing Press scare stories that have never occurred.
I am a strong believer in karma and therefore I have a hard time in feeling sorry for the people of England. I feel more sorry for the Scottish people who where yanked out of the EU with 60% being against Brexit.
Make Brexit work = make alchemy work.
It's been a catastrophe, and we continue down this awful path ....
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
Shame the UK government and Leavers were so abusive to those who said it would cause problems in 2016. Expect NO help now.
@@mattsyson3980 Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
You actually think 'Brexit is a catastrophe' because two people ordered some plastic dinosaurs from China and don't know how sell them?
@@SJG-nr8uj The good news is that I have reassurances from my immediate neighbours (French, Belgian and Dutch) that we will stick together and support each other as far as possible rather than be isolationists who will be picked off by Russia and China etc. I say put the Atlantic wall back up to repel thiose nasty Brits.
3 remarques : 1) le pari de Londres = Singapour européen est/était insensé ; 2) les anglais vivent et pensent comme du temps de la Reine Victoria, en 1880, nous ne sommes plus en 1880 nous sommes en 2024. Dans 10 ans l''Inde, ancienne colonie britannique, sera dans le top 5 des pays les plus puissants du monde ; 3) si l'Ecosse et l'Irlande du Nord quittent la Grande Bretagne, (à cause d'une aggravation de la situation économique), l'Angleterre ne sera plus rien !!!
L’Inde a déjà dépassé le Royaume-Uni en tant que cinquième. Inde PIB 4112 Royaume-Uni 3592.
@@trident6547 et en plus ils veulent changer de nom, l'Inde était une appellation britannique !!.
Funny how you say we have a colonial mindset when you lot still cling onto your African colonies to this day... Oh wait they're deserting you for the Ruskies.
@@trident6547India does have 1.5 Bn people living there so it's expected that their economy would overtake ours at some point. However their GDP per capita is nowhere near as close to ours.
The journalist Peter Oborne freely admits he made the wrong call on leaving the E.U. in a recent interview.
No chance they would accept us without a large demonstrable social and political backing, and anyway we don't fulfill the requirements right now. We never had to pass their test, as we were already in the EEC. No point in rushing an application that will absolutely fail. Right now, the only thing to do is realign as much as possible, then apply. But Starmer is right saying that he will not apply; there is no point as it wouldn't be accepted and it would only create international humiliation and increase the anti-EU resilience among the poorly informed. It is up to the EU, remember. The guy after Starmer might, just might, be able to start the application, but that is being optimistic.
as long as you have yours papers to blame every domestic issue on the EU I don't think there will be a proper stable majority to rejoin. And after the application some scores have to be settled; Gibraltar, the marbles. And then we have the issue of the Euro; which you would have to take on; it's a long long way to rejoin!
where is farridge in all this? has he scarpered?
Farage recognized that Brexit was a failure.
Blaming the Tories for messing it up.
Coz it’s never his fault, is it?
We need to talk about the next things:
a) Brexit was never a national advice to the Parliament. At least half of the nation always opposed it
b) May and Johnson’s governments rejected the need of a wide public consultation on the outcome of the Brexit vote and proceeded with their things without U.K. citizens’ mandate
c) For everyone who opposed Brexit, stripping them of their lawful citizenship on their Continent was degradation and disgrace. Brexit was the worst deprivation of citizens in the Western Europe since the Second World War.
d) for most of U.K. citizens who opposed Brexit, especially younger generations, Brexit is a government-imposed apartheid
e) Brexit ballot paper contained nothing on the Single market and Customs union. Neither May nor Johnson had any mandate from the nation for pulling U.K. out of those institutions
f) Brexit made U.K. a state with a disputed state border; the only clumsy fix for the dispute is a customs border between NI and GB
This are issues that prevent Brexit from ever working. But no politician fighting for power today can say that Brexit will never work. They have to start dismantling Brexit obstacles piece by piece under pretext it’s necessary to make the thing work.
As soon as dismantling Brexit starts improving things in U.K., there will be more and more appetite to remove more. And that’s the way Brexit will be finished. The Labour will happily kill the monster but pretending they only did what they had to, and it is public who wanted them to go further. Let’s get a lot of pop corn but let’s get ready to act when we need.
The Single Market and the Customs Union are EU institutions (the Single Market also including EFTA) and they don’t exist separately from the EU.
Some Brexit proponents, however, correctly guessed that the EU would agree to the idea of a “soft Brexit” in which UK remained part of the Single Market. This would spare the EU the huge risk and cost of restructuring its supply chain to exclude UK. The part left mostly unsaid, of course, was that UK - in exchange for continued unfettered access to the SM - would become a rule taker.
Johnson eventually spat on this offer and went for a hard Brexit. Now the EU has no incentive whatsoever to offer this deal again - the risk to EU’s supply chain has passed, the cost of restructuring it is fully paid, and the EU won’t want to pay it again just because Brexitannia doesn’t like the consequences of its actions - consequences that were explained quite clearly before Brexit.
Do you want the economic advantages of the EU’s Single Market? Pay the political price in full and join the EU again, this time with no opt outs.
@petertimmermans8425 EU was ready to consider a status for U.K. in SM and CU. That would have meant, of course, following the SM and CU rules and standards, including freedom of movement for EU citizens.
It was technically staying in EU without voice in the rules but with some freedoms here and there, like tighter border controls for non-EU arrivals (which U.K. already had, btw).
This opportunity was technically accepted by May’s government in the form of the NI backstop. May was ousted for that. Johnson rejected the offer. Upon leaving, there is no current format for joining SM and CU without full EU membership.
There are, nonetheless:
a) Pan-European-Mediterranean convention on standards that U.K. can easily join - matter of few years
b) a format of a bespoke custom union between a non-member and entire EU (Turkiye and few minor countries)
c) deep and comprehensive free trade area membership for countries aspiring to join EU - matter for future negotiations
@@paologat I completely agree that U.K. needs joining EU anew, and without the silly opt-outs. Citizens need rights and freedoms, not privileges.
Having said that, there are few formats that are available for both sides to consider as possible improvements: Pan-Euro-Mediterranean Convention on standards; a bilateral custom union between EU and U.K.; and, in the future, U.K. membership in EU deep comprehensive trade area.
That all, of course, needs to be on the basis of mutual benefits. There can be a lot of cooperation in security, sconce and research and business. U.K. will have to align standards with EU (but PEM requires that anyway).
I’m looking forward to EU establishing a EU armed forces and U.K. cooperating closely (and, ideally, taking part).
Lots of stuff to do. But joining EU is paramount. Will give it 15 years in the best case, 25 in the worst.
@@someoneno-one7672 25 years for a Breturn? I think you are an optimist.
I expect UK will require, first of all, 10 more years to agree with itself that Brexit was a bad idea (not “a great idea but poorly executed”). Then 10 more years to decide it should “betray” the sacred 2016 referendum and apply to join the EU again. 10 years to implement the constitutional changes required to comply with the Copenhagen Criteria in full, and 10 years to hammer out the details of accession.
Overall, about 50 years from the start of the Brexit saga. Which conveniently matches JRM’s estimate of the timeframe required for Brexit to produce its benefits.
Garbage from start to finish. You have no idea what's going on.
I'm a Brit living in Austria. All that I have today I had before Brexit, it's made no difference to me at all. But what worries me (I still have family and friends on The Island) is.... WHAT HAPPENS IF THE EU DOESN'T WANT YOU BACK?
Yes.
Apart from, that the UK doesn't even fulfill the needed criteria for APPLYING for EU membership at the moment = a national debt of max 55 %, the UKs national debt is at 101,2 % recently...
Greetings from another EUs family member state 😊
Ironic that Sue Judd deals with dinosaurs - she appears to be one!
Lock Johnson up
There appeared to be no understanding of what it means to be a nation on an Island?
Most farmers are Tories, made your bed comes to mind
Britain will not return to the EU before the generation that voted overwhelming for it passes on. Even then, negotiations will be difficult and take a long time. I don't see it happening for at least a couple of decades.
If Brexit was a game of poker, Brexitears wanted to be dealt a royal flush…
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
And that's where the country's going...down the pan.☹️
@@user-im8us6sg5d Yep.That "flush" is in the water.
Stella is spot on ❤
Those who voted to leave saying “not my brexit” - the referendum was “remain” or “leave”
You got exactly what you wanted
And farmers voted 58 to 31 percent to leave (11% abstained) - nearly 2:1
Honestly - people vote with greed, hatred and laziness
And Luz now attacking Starmer because he won’t take us back (BECAUSE HE CANT) is really taking the piss
The process for the UK to rejoin the EU would involve several steps, as outlined by EU law and experts:
Application: The UK would need to submit a letter of application to the European Council.
Assessment: The European Commission would assess the UK’s candidacy and decide whether to make the UK a candidate country.
Negotiations: If the UK’s candidacy is accepted, negotiations would begin. These could be lengthy, as it has taken other countries an average of nine years from application to signing an accession treaty.
Approval: The UK would need the unanimous approval of all EU member states and the consent of the European Parliament by an absolute majority of its members before it could formally rejoin.
Additionally, the UK would have to meet the Copenhagen Criteria, which include a functioning market economy, the capacity to cope with EU law, and political stability guaranteeing democracy and the rule of law.
It’s important to note that public opinion and political will are significant factors in this process, and any move to rejoin would likely require a stable and long-lasting majority public opinion in favor of rejoining.
Funny, soon British will try to find jobs on the continent just to survive. Becoming immigrants themselves 😂
That is funny because 6.5 million EU nationals applied to stay working in the UK and the UK has lower unemployment than every EU country...
@@Iazzaboyce Yeah, yeah ,yeah we have heard all about your wonderful fully employed 0-hour employees. Around 13% of people in the UK were in absolute low income before housing costs in 2021/22, and 17% were in absolute low income (absolute poverty) after housing costs.
If you are all employed how come poverty is so widespread?
Of the 10 poorest regions in Northern Europe UK has 9.
The British are forbidden from working on the continent except under rare circumstances. So no.
@@trident6547 There you have it - put all of that on the side of your 'join bus' and away you go - toot! toot!
@@Purple_flower09 like people from all over the world if you find a job and a boss who will support you in applying for work visa British can work in EU. But like other things they made it hard for themselves with brexit. And since things are getting worse some might end a truck driver in Europe
Re-introduce rationing! Everyone will love it! It'll be just like the war. Which some Brits are still fighting it seems.
Leaving the European Union has been a resounding success. It has preserved, and in fact restored, sovereign independence and representative democracy in the face of the threat to both posed by European federalism. This will save us having to fight a war to win them back. The rest of Europe is not so lucky.
Naturally, I don't expect Remoaners, who only think with their wallets, to understand this.
Just one or two hours at the internet, informing yourself about the EU (and not listening to the sellers of brexit) would have helped. Unfortunately, a lot of people believed the lies of Johnson and Farage.
The two great taboos: Brexit and Israel...'ooh...mustn't criticise them'.
Bring on Scottish independence so we Scots can escape this English Tory madness and get back into the EU where we belong.
If you got Independence, you'd probably qualify for membership Nordic Council in a decade or two...
Peace and love
How would you deal with a hard border with England? I don’t think you could stand it.
@@louismart Many EU countries have borders with their non-EU neighbours. It is an entirely normal state of affairs. Besides, it would be temporary anyway. Within a generation most of the ignorant, gullible English brexiteers who voted this pox upon us will be dead and a younger, more enlightened, generation will call the shots. England then will be begging to be let back into the EU, an independent Scotland having already returned there. With both back in the EU the border will vanish. In any case, if the English don't like having a border with Scotland then it's their fault for dragging us out of the EU in the first place and thereby putting strain on this already disunited kingdom. As for the Scots, I think many of us would consider it a price worth paying to finally be free of the Tories. We have been shat upon by governments we did not elect for decades. Brexit was the final straw for many.
Once again you have it totally right, Liz. Perhaps naively I hope Starmer is just playing it safe until he gets into Number 10 Downing Street before negotiating a return to the Single Market and the Customs Union. Keep up your outstanding work, Liz. You are the best! ❤🎉😊
There is no way for the UK into the SM/ CU. That talk is an unhelpful distraction.
@@Purple_flower09 _There is no way for the UK into the SM/ CU_ But there is: EU membership, remember? *Very hard to obtain* for the UK atm, I know. But it's the only way if the UK wants SM access again. A long-term project, but one that needs to be started if the UK wants to get out of this mess. No more cherry-picking attempts but full commitment: that is the only way to sway the EU member states into not vetoing a future UK application.
Starmer has to not say anything that will rock the boat until after he's in #10 Downing Street. And even then, he won't say much -- he'll focus on doing things, QUIETLY, behind the scenes to reduce the damage from Brexshit. That way the people who got suckered into voting for it won't feel insulted the way they would if Sir Keir came out in his first PMQ's as PM and said "I have to repair all the damage you utter morons did when you voted for Brexshit."
As for the SM/CU, that'll take a while, which is why smart people aren't even talking about it. Once again, that's a matter of QUIET negotiations with the EU to see what will be needed to get the process going. Don't say a word about it until *after* the EU has already approved it.
@@maartenaalsmeer Aye well it seemed to me that the other comment meant that Starmer can 'just take us into the SM/CU'. The myth about this being possible outwith full membership refuses to die.
(Outwith is a Scottish word that the English lack).
Right now my feeling is that the UK will drift away from the EU. Joining would take far too long. The UK just has to find ways of getting by and that's going to mean doing things that will mean the potential to join the EU in the future is eroded.
We don't have a spare twenty years. Getting by probably means much closer ties with the US. We're a reliable poodle and make a useful aircraft carrier. Many Americans can speak English - up to a point. And the Americans don't hate us -some of them love Scotland, others think the royal family is cute.
So if we give the Greek Marbles to the Metropolitan Museum and let the Americans have Gibraltar and Pitcairn Island for military bases I'm sure they would do some kind of deal. The Americans know how to get on with getting things done - they don't require a decade of negotiations. There - I solved Brexit.
You and I are talking again, so that's a positive thing.
Will the UK ever be back inside the EU? Not in my lifetime. But what do I know?
I've no sympathy for the leave voters. We knew what remain was like but leave was a huge unknown. Anyone with a modicum of common sense could work out the huge risk we were taking. I've lost my right to live, work, study, retire and receive medical care in the other EU countries. Thanks a lot leave voters.
Sue, a fundamental farming principle: you reap what you sow. It is harvest time now.
Nigel Farage has captivated you, a radio presenter who has become an icon listened to by a people who have lost their watch.
Mr Farage must be imprisoned.
And all the pro Brexit voters?? Nigel did what he wanted to do and the 🐑🐏 sheep followed him. That's not a crime....😂
@@klausschumacher7126 You are right, let's give time to the democratic process.
Don't know what the couple with the export business are complaining about. Leaving the EU customs union and single market was going to reintroduce customs procedures that existed prior to 1 January 1993. However, it could have been worse, with tariffs and quotas, if there had been a hard brexit with no TCA.
As for the checks on food imports from the EU, these are to perform two functions -
1). protect the integrity of the GB animal health system, and
2). comply with WTO most favoured countries rules.
I'm surprised that there will be personal allowances for bringing food back from holidays into GB ---- I don't know about the rest of the EU/EEA/CH, but there's definitely no personal allowances for bring food back from holidays from outside of the EU/EEA/CH into Ireland - but then Ireland is ruthless when it comes to animal health and food safety.
As this lady voted leave I have no sympathy for her. Just let her suffer the consequences.
Anybody that had Economics 101 could have told you it's a bad idea, but a few rich people want to make more money.