Lol that's so badly mistranslated though. Gohan never even asks if it really matters, he just says "this can't be" when Goku is commenting about how sad it is that Vegeta purposely let himself be under control. Funimation dub had its moments but it's only like 25-50% accurate to the manga/Japanese dub at best, even DBZ Kai has blips
@@Valientlink we have to stop this nonsense its translated the exact way for a reason English language is totally different than Japanese certain words used and humor will excite English speakers that would never work in Japan you can't deny this scene in English was amazing regardless if its genuine or not I'd say it's an upgrade to the original. Video games do this as well certain conversations will never work here in the west
@@backonurporposeclips Yikes, someone had a bad day. I said the FUNimation dub had its moments, but this is just an outright complete mistranslation. That's anything but an upgrade. The only "upgrade" would be the slavery line where he says nothing at all normally and Vegeta's freaking out at Shin. It wasn't translated this way "for a reason" either, by the way. Educate yourself before making some *actual* nonsense comment, which there's still time to delete lmao. They didn't have access to the source material and had to make up a lot on their own. Half of what you're saying isn't well written and makes little sense, you don't seem to know how to write well. Translated this exact way, which I already disproved as them lacking source material and your reasoning starts with English being a different language than Japanese. That's actually mind-blowing, I never knew that. I don't know what you're on about with humor either. Most of Dragon Ball, not Z, for instance, is significantly funnier to watch in Japanese because English was dubbed for 7-year-olds and is just as guilty otherwise for having a bad translation where they just make a lot of stuff up. Even with the target age being that low, many of the jokes would've still flown because they were childlike in nature; like Son Goku.
I still watch this from time to time. Not sure if anyone else feels this way but it’s crazy how we love Goku as kids but as we get older we relate more to vegeta. Need this energy in DBS & not the stupid version of goku we get now imo
im not going to lie. i always rooted for goku. but this time i rooted for vegeta because he sounded so badass. and when vegeta became my favorite over goku. not to mention his music is the best.
Agree on Toriyama but this dub is only like 30% accurate to the source material lol. This entire scene is almost entirely mistranslated. The goated dub is the original Japanese. A lot of us just have nostalgia for having been kids when it was airing.
@@Valientlink if it gives the same meaning then its considered canon, since the manga u see online isnt 100% translated accurately. not even the sub. You literally can't achieve the perfect dialouges in english w/o knowing japanese. But it doesnt matter.
@Valientlink if its in english, then its not necessarily 100% translated, however if its in japanese n u understand it, then the material is raw and 100% accurate. good to know. (NOTE: you dont own the manga collection btw 😆 , judging my the context, u meant u own a collection of the manga, and not the manga collection in general.)
Haha. I remember an old post from somewhere that said goku was deadbeat dad of the year LOL! He really was a terrible father, but his kids still loved the shit outta him 😊
@@randomguy2052 yeah, I know lol I'm laughing at myself. I definitely was drunk and typed he instead of him and posted it lol and I'm too arrogant to edit it lol just like the prince of sayians.
@@HoodBallZ maybe in oceanic, but for me in New York, standard eastern time, this is def the original audio. You know that English versions change from time zone to time zone right?
When he gives that grin after blasting half that stadium to death told me one thing, THE PRINCE OF ALL SAYIANS HAS RETURNED. shit brought me right back to the first sayian saga. When I was 11, 12, 13 years old lol. He is so much better as a bad guy.
The amazing thing about DBZ is there’s an underlying second story line occurring at all times. Besides the defending of earth vs villains there’s always the Prince of all Saiyans vs the lower class underdog who continues to surpass him. Their dynamic makes this show
"Spend most of *your* life ruled by another! Watch *your* race dwindle to a handful! And then, tell me what has more meaning than your own strength!" Some of the coldest dialogue in DB i swear.
It’s awesome seeing people watching and commenting this after so many years. Watching the Kai version on Hulu right now, but the original scene is by far the best. “He’s stolen my honor and his debt must be paid” has to be my favorite line in DBZ. Kai screwed it up by replacing with crappy music and changing the verbiage completely. I’m watching it here first to get the true effect.
“Not to you Gohan but to a Warrior it matters greatly” I’m sorry Vegeta but didn’t Cell whoop your ass after he killed your son right in front of you and Gohan was the one to save your ass. What does it say that a “Warrior” let someone who had no intentions of being a fighter since day one was the one save everyone
goku:i didnt think you were weak enough to be controlled..answer me, vegeta, you let yourself be a slave. good tactic to try and hurt his pride to bring him back. then vegeta says the best answer vegeta: is it slavery when you get what you want
I wouldn't say addiction. Addiction to what? Vageta's theme is pride and ego. When you have too much pride you'll never be fulfilled. Cursed to never realise your own potential because your too busy being obsessed with others. It's like you're torturing yourself and you'll never be content with what you have. For example Vageta was able to kill Buu because he wasn't comparing himself anymore. Instead he was focused on fighting for what he already had.
You’re the only one. Vegeta is not addicted. He’s the ultimate narcissist. That’s his sin. He’s driving by pride and ego. Goku is driving by love & competition.
I feel like Toriyama originally wrote this to be Vegeta vs Gohan. Mainly because there's no WAY Gohan wouldn't lose his shit if Vegeta killed people right in front of him.
1:43 ❤❤❤❤ very personal and they dont seem to understand. It seems pointless but it means everything to vegeta. That saiyan pride 😂😂❤❤. "In a day youll be back to the dead.. and i WILL NOT miss this opportunity! 3:00 ❤
Frankly, as much I love the Faulconer score, it doesn't really serve some scenes very well. Vegeta's speech would be way more impactful without cool chill out slow synth rock n roll in the background. He's losing his shit with how pissed he is, it's not supposed to sound cool, it's supposed to sound intense, scary but empathizable. Soundtrack just makes him sound like a bad boy.
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"Not to you Gohan but to a warrior it matters greatly"
Vegeta killing people emotionally too
Lol if this happened RIGHT after Cell’s death he would’ve labelled Gohan as a warrior
@@lordwoody8352 He likely still did, this translation is just very inaccurate.
Lol that's so badly mistranslated though. Gohan never even asks if it really matters, he just says "this can't be" when Goku is commenting about how sad it is that Vegeta purposely let himself be under control. Funimation dub had its moments but it's only like 25-50% accurate to the manga/Japanese dub at best, even DBZ Kai has blips
@@Valientlink we have to stop this nonsense its translated the exact way for a reason English language is totally different than Japanese certain words used and humor will excite English speakers that would never work in Japan you can't deny this scene in English was amazing regardless if its genuine or not I'd say it's an upgrade to the original. Video games do this as well certain conversations will never work here in the west
@@backonurporposeclips Yikes, someone had a bad day. I said the FUNimation dub had its moments, but this is just an outright complete mistranslation. That's anything but an upgrade. The only "upgrade" would be the slavery line where he says nothing at all normally and Vegeta's freaking out at Shin.
It wasn't translated this way "for a reason" either, by the way. Educate yourself before making some *actual* nonsense comment, which there's still time to delete lmao. They didn't have access to the source material and had to make up a lot on their own.
Half of what you're saying isn't well written and makes little sense, you don't seem to know how to write well. Translated this exact way, which I already disproved as them lacking source material and your reasoning starts with English being a different language than Japanese. That's actually mind-blowing, I never knew that. I don't know what you're on about with humor either.
Most of Dragon Ball, not Z, for instance, is significantly funnier to watch in Japanese because English was dubbed for 7-year-olds and is just as guilty otherwise for having a bad translation where they just make a lot of stuff up. Even with the target age being that low, many of the jokes would've still flown because they were childlike in nature; like Son Goku.
This shit was so cold when i was a kid, i ran straight outside ready to whoop the next person who'd try to steal my honor.
lmao
😂😂😂😂
Nicely played warrior Nicely played 🫡
I used to watch this scene while working out at the gym long ago. 10+ years later and it still get me pumped for a hard core workout!
"And his debts must be paid". Just awesome
When Goku was actually serious sometimes.
Naw that’s Kakarot
He still is. Maybe try reading for once, or watching with your eyes open
@@BlackJacked yea maybe like 1% of the time he's on screen
When someone so free spirited gets so serious, then you should be careful. Then the real fight begins!
In case you haven’t noticed, the main times he gets serious is when family or civilians are around.
This music made it so intense I remember watching when I was like 9 or 10 years old on toonami all of us probably do
great times feeling was much different
I still watch this from time to time. Not sure if anyone else feels this way but it’s crazy how we love Goku as kids but as we get older we relate more to vegeta. Need this energy in DBS & not the stupid version of goku we get now imo
@@wilbertamayai agree great times
@@jaimerivas5967very true. Goku was pretty reckless and too care free.
Nothing encapsulates this speech better than Hells Bells/Vegeta's Theme
3:01 growing up watching DBZ as a kid, you always rooted for goku, but when you start to understand vegeta..
im not going to lie. i always rooted for goku. but this time i rooted for vegeta because he sounded so badass. and when vegeta became my favorite over goku. not to mention his music is the best.
Only Goku understood Vegeta at that moment. And as a "Sayan" probably even approved a bit.
If Gohan was himself right after defeating Cell, eh would have understood
Majin vegeta had so much aura
Wdym had he is the definition of aura
@terrencebunnage5715 LITERALLY!!
@@terrencebunnage5715 Basically the new term for cool
the one and only Goated Dubbed Anime!
Toriyama sensei will forever be in our Heart!
Agree on Toriyama but this dub is only like 30% accurate to the source material lol. This entire scene is almost entirely mistranslated. The goated dub is the original Japanese. A lot of us just have nostalgia for having been kids when it was airing.
That's a matter of fact!!!
@@Valientlink if it gives the same meaning then its considered canon, since the manga u see online isnt 100% translated accurately. not even the sub. You literally can't achieve the perfect dialouges in english w/o knowing japanese. But it doesnt matter.
@@CallMeIAN1 I own the manga collection so it's well translated
@Valientlink if its in english, then its not necessarily 100% translated, however if its in japanese n u understand it, then the material is raw and 100% accurate. good to know.
(NOTE: you dont own the manga collection btw 😆 , judging my the context, u meant u own a collection of the manga, and not the manga collection in general.)
When my father wasn’t home vegeta raised me
📠✍🏾🔥
His a villain most of the show 🤐
Yeah when my dad wasn’t home goku was my dad but my dad is a good guy who just never bothered to be around. Real goku energy 😂
🔥
Haha. I remember an old post from somewhere that said goku was deadbeat dad of the year LOL! He really was a terrible father, but his kids still loved the shit outta him 😊
"...and he debts... MUST. BE. PAID."
his*
@@randomguy2052 yeah, I know lol I'm laughing at myself. I definitely was drunk and typed he instead of him and posted it lol and I'm too arrogant to edit it lol just like the prince of sayians.
In the original he said He has stolen my honor….AND I WANT IT BACK!
Yes bro. Son this is one of the hardest speeches in DBZ.. Vegeta wanted his rematch. He knew what would push Goku to fight him.
@@HoodBallZ maybe in oceanic, but for me in New York, standard eastern time, this is def the original audio. You know that English versions change from time zone to time zone right?
Goku understood his pain
That's not Goku that's Kakarot
Underrated part of Goku's psychology. Gotta love pureblood Saiyans.
The passion, energy, pain, suffering and this scence is just legendary.
When he gives that grin after blasting half that stadium to death told me one thing, THE PRINCE OF ALL SAYIANS HAS RETURNED. shit brought me right back to the first sayian saga. When I was 11, 12, 13 years old lol. He is so much better as a bad guy.
He is better as a hero
*”ANSWER ME! VEGETA!.. Do you let yourself be a slave?!”*
That was two saiyans talking to each other
@@abemartinez9623 damn SKRAIGHT. 💪🏼😤
Tell me, is it slavery when you get what you want? Ayo the savagery of these two
“Dad, don’t” god you guys I miss old Gohan 😞young gohan 🤔😂
You mean teen?
“How sad I didn’t think you were weak enough to be controlled” spicy talk from Goku had me like 👀
I love this scene. The stuff with Majin Vegeta is awesome.
When Vegeta became Majin Vegeta it seemed like a lot of anger and rage was let out of him
WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE
🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Only a Sayan would understand. You can see it in Kakorrot's reaction.
The amazing thing about DBZ is there’s an underlying second story line occurring at all times. Besides the defending of earth vs villains there’s always the Prince of all Saiyans vs the lower class underdog who continues to surpass him. Their dynamic makes this show
This scene is not the same without this epic score!
"Spend most of your life ruled by another. Watch your race dwindle to a handful."
Watching this as an adult hits different.
Notice how Vegeta still treats Gohan decently, even if hes disappointed in him.
Still a better Dad than Goku lmaoo 😅 plus, Vegeta definitely cares for Gohan, knowing how much Trunks did too.
"TELL ME WHAT HAS MORE MEANING THAN YOUR OWN STRENGTH" goddamn that still hits
The disappointment in Goku’s voice is heartbreaking
Underrated part of this scene
Dragonball Z is really where Dragonball should have ended in my opinion after all of this the soul left the story.
"Spend most of *your* life ruled by another! Watch *your* race dwindle to a handful! And then, tell me what has more meaning than your own strength!"
Some of the coldest dialogue in DB i swear.
This scene and music always gives me chills and I’m 32
You spelled g hey incorrectly. I think you put 32
Sad the animation back then is 100% better than it is now
I always comeback just for this moment. Just to watch vegeta kill hundreds and give his speech 🫡
This to me as a kid was the most maddest thing ever like jaw dropped
It’s awesome seeing people watching and commenting this after so many years. Watching the Kai version on Hulu right now, but the original scene is by far the best. “He’s stolen my honor and his debt must be paid” has to be my favorite line in DBZ. Kai screwed it up by replacing with crappy music and changing the verbiage completely. I’m watching it here first to get the true effect.
This never gets old that look Gohan's face says it 😆😆😆 all 0:56
“Not to you Gohan but to a Warrior it matters greatly”
I’m sorry Vegeta but didn’t Cell whoop your ass after he killed your son right in front of you and Gohan was the one to save your ass. What does it say that a “Warrior” let someone who had no intentions of being a fighter since day one was the one save everyone
Yeah , although this was the best moment of the Buu Saga... it still had the writing of the Buu Saga 😂😂
Not to you gohan but to a warrior it matters greatly 😂😂😂 that burnnn
Tell me is it slavery when you get what you want ?
goku:i didnt think you were weak enough to be controlled..answer me, vegeta, you let yourself be a slave.
good tactic to try and hurt his pride to bring him back. then vegeta says the best answer
vegeta: is it slavery when you get what you want
Anyone else think Majin Vegeta is a perfect metaphor for addiction?
I wouldn't say addiction. Addiction to what? Vageta's theme is pride and ego. When you have too much pride you'll never be fulfilled. Cursed to never realise your own potential because your too busy being obsessed with others. It's like you're torturing yourself and you'll never be content with what you have. For example Vageta was able to kill Buu because he wasn't comparing himself anymore. Instead he was focused on fighting for what he already had.
@@OutlawAladdin well put theres a reason pride in the Christian faith is the only sin that could make an angel fall
You’re the only one. Vegeta is not addicted. He’s the ultimate narcissist. That’s his sin. He’s driving by pride and ego. Goku is driving by love & competition.
@@abemartinez9623 “is it slavery when you get what you want?!”… he’s addicted to becoming stronger.
Goku halo was gone this scene
Nope, def still there.
@@TheeLeodraco420 nope, its not there at 2:46. probably an animation error yeah but original comment isnt wrong
Yup sure is gone for about 7 sec…. Guess he felt alive
I feel like Toriyama originally wrote this to be Vegeta vs Gohan. Mainly because there's no WAY Gohan wouldn't lose his shit if Vegeta killed people right in front of him.
If you look carefully Goku almost looks like he wants to cry!
MY GOD THEY WAS IN THEY BAGGGGGGGG
1:43 ❤❤❤❤ very personal and they dont seem to understand. It seems pointless but it means everything to vegeta. That saiyan pride 😂😂❤❤. "In a day youll be back to the dead.. and i WILL NOT miss this opportunity! 3:00 ❤
Vegeta’s mid-life crisis needs to be studied
2:08 what kinda dance routine is that?
The Vegeta sway
When the kai got in the way. That was Kakarot not Goku thats why it caught Vegeta offguard he hadnt met Kakarot until then.
In Naruto Sasuke Uchiha Was like this to naruto
What episode
Vegetas arm/hand animation! Mm!!
How sad. I didn’t think you were weak enough to be controlled.
Vegeta is a badass. But he sure does talk a lot about his feelings.
Vegetas arm/animation! Mm!
I wish i could do midlife crisis like Vegeta.
Music/ost name pls
Vegeta knows his son / Hells bells
Db super is blah because it’s unoriginal in its story and lacks moments like this
Considering how many Kai's were killed right before Shin's eyes and the fact that he's basically ruled by Beerus, I think he might have an idea.
Fking epic
After rewatching this for the 8264926 time, it wasn't until now that I wish goku walked straight up to him and went SS3 and said stfu
2:01
Angry teen gohan would have thrown down with them both
ON GOD
@@fredbecovic9078no goku was stronger
Nah at this point they were far stronger
Back when Dragon Ball meant something. Vegeta is just the best character, in my opinion. Aside from Jiren.
What do you know of meaningless
0:09 0:08
Wtf was this? This is not dragon ball or Kai animation
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Frankly, as much I love the Faulconer score, it doesn't really serve some scenes very well. Vegeta's speech would be way more impactful without cool chill out slow synth rock n roll in the background. He's losing his shit with how pissed he is, it's not supposed to sound cool, it's supposed to sound intense, scary but empathizable. Soundtrack just makes him sound like a bad boy.
i think the soundtrack with the dialogue gets the point across tho, i love it, its one of my favorite scenes in dbz
The best part of all anime history
Z: Vegeta fights like hell as death before dishonor!
Super: Bows down to a cat man and dances to please his homosexual angel