Kanye West & Timbaland In The Studio Working On "Stonger"

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  • @Knowledg3X
    @Knowledg3X 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1216

    "i have every drum machine ever made" that nigga is NOT lyin lol

    • @urbannuance5151
      @urbannuance5151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What's your favorite mines is the CLASSIC MP

    • @MrSpencerMcIntosh
      @MrSpencerMcIntosh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he meant the presets when he said it but he prolly has all of them fr now

  • @inga3188
    @inga3188 ปีที่แล้ว +9272

    "He fixed it in 5 minutes and spent the rest of the hour talking about how no one could've done it but him" 😂😂

    • @g.o.9513
      @g.o.9513 ปีที่แล้ว +262

      It all makes sense now!

    • @djbrotherelectric
      @djbrotherelectric ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Yep dude has always been a narcissist

    • @Leon-zu1wp
      @Leon-zu1wp ปีที่แล้ว +565

      It reminds me of when you hire someone to fix anything. They change one part that costs $5. You go: "What that costs $5 and I'm paying you $100 for the hour?". You're not paying for the part, you're paying for the person's expertise that they honed in after learning the machine inside and out.

    • @inga3188
      @inga3188 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Leon-zu1wp that's true! 🔥

    • @Myburneracc
      @Myburneracc ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@djbrotherelectricStill got the job done

  • @jamesbrooking2143
    @jamesbrooking2143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5094

    This shows just how good Timbo really is, he's an insanely good engineer while also being a legendary producer

    • @rapnerd1392
      @rapnerd1392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Who said he’s an engineer? Lol

    • @loseljukes5204
      @loseljukes5204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

      @@rapnerd1392 music engineer

    • @rosegold-beats
      @rosegold-beats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thats producing not engineering

    • @trollingbigot4686
      @trollingbigot4686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@rosegold-beats he engineers too

    • @treyvonnerobinson
      @treyvonnerobinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@rosegold-beats music engineering is not the same as producing the beat lol. Someone has to produce the beat and then the engineer comes in and puts all the vocals and everything else together

  • @solids526
    @solids526 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2886

    It took Tim about 3 sec to figure out the whooole problem lol. He's the best!

    • @RaidersDnB
      @RaidersDnB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Exactly
      Why didn’t Kanye or any of the engineers suggest and 808 ?!
      Crazy
      I always suggest an 808 (to myself) to layer over a kick to make it knock
      Crazy to think Kanye wouldn’t have arrived at that himself at this stage of his career

    • @allthingsaudio4610
      @allthingsaudio4610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Im surprised kanye couldn't figure this out by himself or with his team. Simple problem. If your kick & 808 aint hitting or clashing simply invert the phase on one of them,eq, compress, or parallel compress,tune,pitch. Its not that hard. Or create a custom kick with the 808 together just for the song. Put a kick that pops with fast attack and place the 808 under it with the length you need for the bass and compress it a lil bit for it to gel together. Throw a lil eq and dirt or lo fi to it for a lil seasoning and bam you got your kick & 808 in one sample.

    • @MS-uj8dg
      @MS-uj8dg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

      @@allthingsaudio4610 Because Kanye was thinking waaayyy outside the box at this moment in his career. Sometimes artist forget to go back to the basics. So an OG like Timbaland had to put his input in and went to back to the basics and BOOM!

    • @nehemiah347
      @nehemiah347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@allthingsaudio4610 Or just sidechain that thang. But yes still surprised he ain't think of this with his "musical genius" Pretty simple solution.

    • @amrit-2865
      @amrit-2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@nehemiah347 nah he was definetly thinking innovatively graduation changed how music sounded after 2007 soul sounds werent too present

  • @elijahholland3995
    @elijahholland3995 ปีที่แล้ว +1147

    Big props to Timbaland for not only being a master of his craft and having a solution on the spot but also not being stingy with the game and putting Ye on to it. And big ups to Kanye for not being to proud to ask for help and putting the art above ego, a lot of artist wouldn’t have put their pride aside to ask for help from a industry colleague/ competitor. This is the beauty of true collaboration when we work together as community helping eachother the end product is greatness

    • @FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit
      @FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut your ol corny ass up duke 😂😂😂

    • @arustaj1673
      @arustaj1673 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      beautifully put

    • @leroyrodgers6089
      @leroyrodgers6089 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Genuises all around.

    • @CulEdz
      @CulEdz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      At the end of the day, it’s about two men that has mastered their craft creating timeless music that would still be played for years to come. It’s truly beautiful to see. Ye knew the only person that can maximize the song’s potential is Timb and Timb wouldn’t let such an amazing song go without it reaching its best outcome. Two amazing legends in the game.

    • @highestpeeqs9532
      @highestpeeqs9532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Proverbs 8:17
      King James Version
      17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
      Jesus loves you and calls all of us to repent!!! ! !!!!! !

  • @FlemLoRaps
    @FlemLoRaps 8 ปีที่แล้ว +770

    true to the craft..love this shit

    • @buddahlovaz7206
      @buddahlovaz7206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Aye my boy flemlo 😂

    • @imyourdaddy8243
      @imyourdaddy8243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Flemlo I fw the channel bro

    • @luvsvnk
      @luvsvnk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So crazy that I find Flemlo in here 4 years later😂

    • @raylantrace5626
      @raylantrace5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I realize I am kinda off topic but do anyone know a good place to stream newly released movies online ?

    • @justzach10
      @justzach10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raylantrace5626 Goole, bud.

  • @jdls12
    @jdls12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2904

    Timbo always said if Kanye would let him produce an entire album of his, it’d be one of the greatest projects of all time.

    • @chrism7163
      @chrism7163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Damn where was this

    • @QuadrantBottomHalf
      @QuadrantBottomHalf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Hit factory Miami.

    • @davidmckesey7119
      @davidmckesey7119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He's right

    • @onemorescout
      @onemorescout ปีที่แล้ว +113

      If Yandhi dropped this would have been proven right, the quality jump of all the leaks from after Timbaland hopped on the project is huge

    • @padraig5335
      @padraig5335 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I'd love to see them do a song with Justin Timberlake

  • @lukestar2218
    @lukestar2218 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    4:41 i love when timb says “you don’t have no-“ and the kick he has knocks so much harder

    • @rickyflores5797
      @rickyflores5797 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      it's insane how much better his kick was compared to kanye's lmao some people just have that ear incredible to see

  • @FrannieFibgert
    @FrannieFibgert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2882

    timbaland, kanye, mike dean, and the neptunes were literally the best producers of the 2000s. Literally no one defined the 2000s more than them

    • @cringe1660
      @cringe1660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +280

      What about Scott storch

    • @woo_shynen8805
      @woo_shynen8805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      jdilla did too

    • @yummdiddy
      @yummdiddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Dr dre lol

    • @TheDavidbeckham7
      @TheDavidbeckham7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Dre and scott Storch aswell.
      Dre for an example produced get rich or die trying an album that definetly defined the 2000s

    • @brandongordon2392
      @brandongordon2392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Dre, Just, Storch can discuss this too

  • @samrobinson387
    @samrobinson387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1256

    I feel like Timbaland is still a bit underrated. In my opinion one of the best producers at just feeling the vibe and not overthinking, which is one of the most important parts of producing. Legend!

    • @waynetables6414
      @waynetables6414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Dre, Tim, Pharrell, J Dilla, and Kanye Top 5 GOATS no order

    • @mamba4817
      @mamba4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@waynetables6414 Premier and RZA over all

    • @outwoodyapecker
      @outwoodyapecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      just because u like something doesnt make it underrated

    • @bannedplaylist
      @bannedplaylist ปีที่แล้ว +7

      under appreciated, not underrated bc he is a very well known producer just not appreciated much

    • @GMeza-cy5xv
      @GMeza-cy5xv ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Underrated??? What are you talking about?? He owned mid 2000s

  • @dariusdavis6508
    @dariusdavis6508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    You can tell Timbo legit loves what he does. That shit is ill.

  • @AA-qb7ni
    @AA-qb7ni ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I could watch Kanye and Timbaland in the studio all day. Fascinating to see these legends work together.

    • @aprilleerose
      @aprilleerose 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you heard Vultures?

  • @69thnstony
    @69thnstony 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3309

    It always amazes how people call him “arrogant” when he’s always shown learning and collaborating.

    • @casillasscorer
      @casillasscorer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      69thnstony because through collaboration, he gets where he wants to be, but he claims it’s just him and his genius, even though he has a team of people helping every aspect, every step of the way

    • @PepeAgain1025
      @PepeAgain1025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      Kanye has always been open to working with other people throughout career and he hasn't been shy about telling everybody who he has worked wih. Kanye could thank half of the success in his career for everybody he has worked with honestly.
      It's what he is saying that rubs people the wrong way and also his personality especially more recently. He was always confident and brash even earlier but now he just comes off as a dickhead and really hard to be around.

    • @deontaeriley-waites8818
      @deontaeriley-waites8818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      casillasscorer he never claimed it's just him

    • @dallinbirch1473
      @dallinbirch1473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think it's the part where he says he's the "fucking end-all, and be all of music" and claims to be a god that make people think he might be a bit arrogant.

    • @raynium1
      @raynium1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bc6798 15 or so

  • @MrLamont1993
    @MrLamont1993 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4538

    Until you realize how hard it is to do... Most people think sampling is easy and thats why its frowned upon, and when some producers do it it is easy, but the way kanye and Timb do it, its more difficult than you think. Making it an art in its own. I actually think its easier to make a beat from scratch then to successfully sample a track the way Ye does.

    • @sickboi335
      @sickboi335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@RealityBoat youre right bro but now i try to make my own samples instead of using what someone else made

    • @thakaptin2043
      @thakaptin2043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@sickboi335 Part of sampling is trying to catch the emotion of the reaction to the sample too. I dont care how good your self made samples are, it will never have that "Hey, I know that.... oh DAMN!" feeling the first time you hear it. You instantly connect with it, and then it goes somewhere its never been before, so it makes that head bob snap just a bit harder. H.O.V.A. and Stronger are perfect examples of this.... both happen to have come from Kanye.

    • @sickboi335
      @sickboi335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@thakaptin2043 i get your point bro but sometimes it is harder to clear those samples from getting out of copyright claim most of the industry producers are in a financial position where they can afford to clear them up so that there wont be a problem using them so i try to make my own so I don't have to deal with anybody running after my beat. but i agree with you that feeling can't be replicated what the old samples gave.

    • @Coronaboii88
      @Coronaboii88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SickBoi Just get Tracklib. Game changer

    • @ssaintluke3628
      @ssaintluke3628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely agree

  • @TycraneVG
    @TycraneVG 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3444

    Kanye and Timbaland needs to work on an album together, would be amazing.

    • @timkelhar8408
      @timkelhar8408 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      they are both doing on the games album right now, on documentary 2 :)

    • @sicklestevens2430
      @sicklestevens2430 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      tim harkel he means a kanye and tim album not one game track they worked togheter on

    • @timkelhar8408
      @timkelhar8408 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sickle Stevens I understand that, but at least we wil be able to hear something new from them bouth :D
      sorry for bad englsih

    • @sicklestevens2430
      @sicklestevens2430 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      tim harkel yeah true

    • @fabo36
      @fabo36 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +TycraneVG too much ego, I can't see them allowing each other to really do what they want

  • @julianwilliamsTSW
    @julianwilliamsTSW 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1158

    just to be a fly in the wall with all the knowledge and creativity these 2 have. sheesh

    • @SoImperialBeats
      @SoImperialBeats 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Bro i was saying the same thing...i could die a happy producer after that!

  • @Picho444
    @Picho444 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    That’s amazing! He knows exactly what Kanye wanted and he made it happen even better than Kanye thought.

  • @albertperez1
    @albertperez1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Imagine TIMBALAND asking you about your own record: "How you gonna tell me this record's not hot?"

  • @3CityJay
    @3CityJay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1171

    Damn this Stonger song sound a hell of a lot like Stronger

    • @imyourdaddy8243
      @imyourdaddy8243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      U know I kinda do hear it

    • @scr3w5
      @scr3w5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @vileink4733
      @vileink4733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Prolly samples the same song

    • @Bandstand
      @Bandstand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@vileink4733 Doubt it

    • @n0kattaem
      @n0kattaem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I hope they drop it soon

  • @naimaismail4356
    @naimaismail4356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    Kanye got me interested in learning about production (for fun). As a music fan, it’s dope to see his process for how these records are made.

    • @yyakuza707
      @yyakuza707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      if you start maybe you'll never stop 😂

    • @sickfoo5506
      @sickfoo5506 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's addicting

    • @highestpeeqs9532
      @highestpeeqs9532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Proverbs 8:17
      King James Version
      17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
      Jesus loves you and calls all of us to repent!!! ! !!!!! !

  • @rubenromero5925
    @rubenromero5925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Timbo has the best kicks and drums EVER

  • @gjones2312
    @gjones2312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    The end of this song proves that it’s a master piece. The outro is sublime musically speaking.

  • @abc-pn6yi
    @abc-pn6yi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    These guys are so talented.. it's unreal how many hits they have made..

    • @highestpeeqs9532
      @highestpeeqs9532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Proverbs 8:17
      King James Version
      17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
      Jesus loves you and calls all of us to repent!!! ! !!!!! !

  • @MrWinnyRoe
    @MrWinnyRoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    timbo: "i have every drum machine ever made" this man basically changed the course of music history

  • @frescotooly8205
    @frescotooly8205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Timbo is one of the best producers of all time. He built and saved alot of careers.

  • @Fyeagass16
    @Fyeagass16 13 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    "In Today's Music Industry It's the Producer and Engineer That Counts!" That is in fact a real statement.

    • @BXTUBE7
      @BXTUBE7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean mixers and masters

    • @MrFoofarew
      @MrFoofarew ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It isn’t totally, you still need talent and extreme hard work from the performers side of things, buuuuut you’re absolutely right the mix and master is INSANELY important.

  • @thebicycleman8062
    @thebicycleman8062 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    The problem is his original kick had "tonality" in it - So when using it with the 808, which is very tonal - it clashes. So then u run into all kinds of problems wen the two parts r not right to start with. Thats why the very first step is CRUCIAL which is to make sure you KICK and 808 are TUNED together and ALREADY separated. Then its becomes sooo much easier to mix them and they jus harmonosly blend beautiful complimenting each other. The kick punches thru and it knocks on ur chest and the bass 808 wobbles you on ur abdominals and lower gut level. Together they form wht u wod call a HAPTIC experience of a really good low end of a song

    • @XenoghostTV
      @XenoghostTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In other words Ye didn't know about sidechain

    • @thebicycleman8062
      @thebicycleman8062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @XenoghostTV wrong. This isn't a side chain thing, this is a disharmony thing

    • @yungchris3238
      @yungchris3238 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@XenoghostTVeveryone knows about sidechain and it’s not a fix for everything

    • @lamodification
      @lamodification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spoken like a professor

    • @rebinu
      @rebinu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XenoghostTVside chain in hiphop 😂😂😂😂

  • @Gemberland2004
    @Gemberland2004 14 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Undertones make it pop! Timbaland got mad quotables lmao

  • @Puffinonzooties
    @Puffinonzooties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    4:42 just like that he knows the kick pattern listening to it first hand and look how on beat he is smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ 😳🔥 greatness

    • @murppyisdurppy1816
      @murppyisdurppy1816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      huh?

    • @LoopSeek3r
      @LoopSeek3r ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Pretty simple pattern but yeah he smooth with it

    • @user-wu3mw2iu7x
      @user-wu3mw2iu7x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a 4/4 beat lol. If someone can't keep 4/4 it's almost certain that they're mentally retarded 😅 cute comment though. Timbo can keep 44 OhEmGeeee

    • @victorieux9580
      @victorieux9580 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LoopSeek3ryou can’t do it bro bro 🏆😁

    • @LoopSeek3r
      @LoopSeek3r หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@victorieux9580 i can do it in like 2 minutes bro bro 🏆😃 its a very simple pattern but executed beautifully

  • @a.k.aemperor2365
    @a.k.aemperor2365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    Mixed 11 times omg that’s work and Kanye was like it still ain’t right.. nowadays people ain’t putting that much work into songs now.. u can’t rush perfection every body too much in a hurry to get things done u gotta take your time and do things right

    • @chukwukosolu
      @chukwukosolu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You always know a well produced record from a mediocre one....like day and night

    • @pabloguccibeats4156
      @pabloguccibeats4156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Some artists are focused on making shit that lasts and others not as much. It’s fine honestly different music for different vibes

    • @Nairrrrrrr
      @Nairrrrrrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pabloguccibeats4156 we listen to the former even when we all get old. Quality over quantity always

    • @laner1172
      @laner1172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      now all of Kanyes shit sounds like ass

    • @bhris.c8315
      @bhris.c8315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laner1172 nah ur tripping

  • @iffysd9864
    @iffysd9864 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Lex interview brought me here 😂😂

  • @jrockwell19
    @jrockwell19 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Timbaland is on the mount Rushmore of the best producers of all time.

  • @Thegamercat420
    @Thegamercat420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Every thing timberland touches is a classic. 5:40 wow

    • @XenoghostTV
      @XenoghostTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At 4:39 you can hear how much Timb's kick differs from the weak one

  • @aaronadams6873
    @aaronadams6873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    even in 240p, timbaland keyboard choir sounds crispy :,)

  • @SiQuemaCuhh
    @SiQuemaCuhh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    People ain’t even know these some of the first dudes to make a kick and an 808 work together at the same time in records and make it a popular thing… this mad

  • @aisharpproductions1351
    @aisharpproductions1351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    2019 and I can still watch this repeatedly, without skipping.

  • @annav5171
    @annav5171 8 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    "in the presence of greatness"

    • @av5165
      @av5165 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats up!

    • @bhaveshtochabbra6853
      @bhaveshtochabbra6853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@av5165 nm, wbu?

    • @maryagyemang9870
      @maryagyemang9870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@av5165 lmao you both got A V did you live happily ever after?

    • @av5165
      @av5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhaveshtochabbra6853 what’s Gucci?

    • @av5165
      @av5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maryagyemang9870 haha omg old ass comment. She never replied 😢

  • @winst9546
    @winst9546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    It's 2021 and I am still waiting for *_"Stonger"_* to drop🤩

    • @silentstormf1496
      @silentstormf1496 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      hey buddy i have to tell you something

    • @RealHamburglar
      @RealHamburglar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silentstormf1496double necropost but i don’t think you get it it’s misspelled in the title

  • @BrysontheeTV
    @BrysontheeTV ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I respect Kanye so much for wanting all of the signal responses to be recognized in the venues the music was played

  • @DarkOblideration
    @DarkOblideration 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This one ye most classic songs. super inspiring and motivating

  • @SPELLWRKS
    @SPELLWRKS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    this is true production talk right here. love it

  • @samrobinson387
    @samrobinson387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Kanye and Tim and everyone else here are truly inspiring. Hope to be like them one day after I put in all the work.

  • @rachit
    @rachit 8 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    This was like a movie.

  • @antonyjones6946
    @antonyjones6946 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love watching the process, music production is so hard and I'm excited for the day I can do shit just like both of them, shits inspiring

  • @VIISoldiers
    @VIISoldiers 11 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    DAFT PUNK SAMPLE SO CLEAN

  • @ImDougDimmadome
    @ImDougDimmadome 8 ปีที่แล้ว +858

    I know what ye's talking about. he wants the thump of the kick to cut through while still having the 808 present and not clashing. sidechain compression maaaaaaaan

    • @SmokezZ908
      @SmokezZ908 8 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      how u kno how sway

    • @christophergarcia8956
      @christophergarcia8956 8 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      The problem is the kicks sharing similar frequencies. When one comes in they cancel each other out.

    • @emmanueljohnson2631
      @emmanueljohnson2631 7 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      they probably didnt know how to sidechain back then. now shit is advanced

    • @melvoHD
      @melvoHD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Or you could just EQ out the low-end frequencies of the kick and maybe increase the punchier frequencies

    • @brook4204
      @brook4204 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      mhdTV then I guess you’d lose the thump of the kick

  • @M4R5-C4V14R
    @M4R5-C4V14R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I bow in the presence of their greatness

  • @maliekjcksn
    @maliekjcksn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    People forget that Yeezy is one of the best producers ever, as well as a good writer.

    • @trueprolouge123
      @trueprolouge123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Man had the best bars when he wasn’t even writing them, just straight free styling from College Dropout-Graduation

    • @juliuszgodek6514
      @juliuszgodek6514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jacob Serrano I really don’t believe him when he said that. As much as I am a massive Kanye fan, the man really can’t freestyle. All of his freestyles ever since 2009 were already written but unrealesed lyrics

    • @Loulou______
      @Loulou______ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad he’s a joke now

    • @rayseanedogameh2626
      @rayseanedogameh2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Loulou______ how he's a billionare and 21 Grammy winner u clown

    • @shivi4153
      @shivi4153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rayseanedogameh2626 🗣

  • @colocho_
    @colocho_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    4:15 that beat so FIREE

    • @quertyjanerty6024
      @quertyjanerty6024 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow you're so funny man

    • @BigGucciOsc
      @BigGucciOsc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      adonis mendoza lmao

    • @ZenoBeatz
      @ZenoBeatz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +adonis mendoza lol

    • @ay5285
      @ay5285 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +adonis mendoza lol

  • @angelodavis4069
    @angelodavis4069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Two of my favorite producer's.

  • @El_Diablo_12
    @El_Diablo_12 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    0:53 "Another level" "Another level of crazy?" - I assume this means that even Kanye's mixing engineers are shook at how many revisions he's making on his song. I think Kanye's dedication to perfecting his products is really admirable and what made him into a truly great artist regardless of the bullshit he sometimes spouts.
    I wanna bring that same energy to my business, and hopefully it turns out well lol. Just getting started now.

    • @oraleofficial9398
      @oraleofficial9398 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good luck bro 💪🏾

    • @El_Diablo_12
      @El_Diablo_12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn’t work out. Infinite revisions was a mistake at first lol. Onto another business haha

    • @ryleypalmer
      @ryleypalmer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@El_Diablo_12the actual main takeaway from this video is to go back to basics, not to infinitely refine. Kanye would’ve kept going forever if timbaland didn’t show him that simplifying was the best option. Words to live by whatever you do, art or business or anything..

  • @robertocruz3279
    @robertocruz3279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The process of producing classic hip hop music props to both of these producers

  • @giftedwun1
    @giftedwun1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +702

    And these are the length's today's producers should be going to, to get the record right. I myself, as a producer - keep things like in my mental rolodex at all times. It's not about the quick turn-up record, it's about never giving up until the record is right. Doing whatever it takes! Salute to these two LEGENDS.

    • @23dgoudeau
      @23dgoudeau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Even if it means becoming a monk and going into deep meditation to come up with that perfect sound

    • @AdonisAiolos
      @AdonisAiolos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gifted Society FOH its just music bruh it even that deep.

    • @expiredtylernol
      @expiredtylernol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      AdonisAiolos yes it is tf? You don’t know how important making music is to him so just stfu

  • @rento8747
    @rento8747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An honor to be able to see this

  • @santossantana
    @santossantana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    1 million views later and the title is still misspelled haha

    • @levibeernaert8582
      @levibeernaert8582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stonger lool

    • @Hugo_Tate
      @Hugo_Tate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hahahah integrity to not change it is admired.

    • @kayd9244
      @kayd9244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      right

  • @angkurrongpi4910
    @angkurrongpi4910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Timbaland king of drums

  • @Burlykim13
    @Burlykim13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I really want to hear the different versions back to back cause there’s no doubt it was a good song but Timbaland made it what it is

  • @atlridder
    @atlridder 14 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    sometimes you just need to hear it from someone that knows just as much as you and even more for you to see that you got it right

  • @SpaceSpiffin43
    @SpaceSpiffin43 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    U can see the passion and hustle n they eyes

  • @rapnerd1392
    @rapnerd1392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After years of seeing this video I realized that it was mixed 10 times because in the end what the real problem was the production of the track and sound selection.

  • @michaelgarcia519
    @michaelgarcia519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He absorbing the info. Hope this video stays forever
    Truly amazing video

  • @botanicagravez
    @botanicagravez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So Powerful🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @keithchegwin1222
    @keithchegwin1222 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember the original Daft Punk dance version back in the 90's, I heard it in Paris and London. Great sample they used. It's what makes the songs a hit.

  • @parsons3857
    @parsons3857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The last part of the vid made me feel like I’m in a dream/ game watching the concert out of my mind. For real though this song is one of the best ever done.

  • @AveMcree
    @AveMcree 8 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    808s now>808s then

    • @niknombr4634
      @niknombr4634 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ave Mcree (CeeMurda DaBasedgod) Came a long way lol, and thats cool to see you posting here Ive watched some of you're videos man keep up the good work

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mick Mc thanks dude

    • @nathanzhane3628
      @nathanzhane3628 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know nothing Jon Snow!!!!

    • @actuallyhard315
      @actuallyhard315 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looooooollllll

    • @DamonBlack_Media
      @DamonBlack_Media 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      808's only as a kick drum then. 808's as a melodic baseline instrument now.

  • @Acousticsoul215
    @Acousticsoul215 13 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Somebody out here has to explain to me how this dude Kanye is supposed to be a megalomaniac yet he has enough humility to want his product perfect, even after it's released. Plus, the humility to admit his skills and ability weren't enough (yet) so he brought on a more experienced producer to help him. I just got sooo much more respect for this dude now.

    • @iggystardust9236
      @iggystardust9236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Crazy to think about how much more Kanye has been through since the 11 years you posted this

    • @SteveOjo
      @SteveOjo ปีที่แล้ว +32

      So this comment aged terribly lol

    • @andersfriisjensen967
      @andersfriisjensen967 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@SteveOjo it aged well. Kanye is cool standing up for the right things

    • @Acousticsoul215
      @Acousticsoul215 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SteveOjo LMAO!!! OMG...This is so embarrassing!!

    • @aclippa6313
      @aclippa6313 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Acousticsoul215nah it’s not. Ur original comment was correct

  • @LeFlurLeflaEshkoshka
    @LeFlurLeflaEshkoshka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Young Dj A-Trak chillin in the back. Bunch of legends in that room.

  • @ponternal
    @ponternal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy how much making music has changed since Kanye started dude has been doing it for so long

  • @GmkSuperstars
    @GmkSuperstars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Timb is just flat out gifted they mix that song 10+ times trynna get the drums right and timb comes in and fixes the issue in a few mins

  • @mum8les384
    @mum8les384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So cool to go from the studio to the stage like that

  • @OmarPerez-ln4es
    @OmarPerez-ln4es 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Respect to them in the 2000s no question asked gold 💯💯💯

  • @TheWorldJr
    @TheWorldJr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bro seeing 14 years ago is crazy

  • @Coronaboii88
    @Coronaboii88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    There’s a science to layering drums. It’s gotta be right

  • @aeronevans4337
    @aeronevans4337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that edit at the end bangs so much credit for that jeez

  • @JavierSanchez-Tmt
    @JavierSanchez-Tmt ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this

  • @tater_hater4566
    @tater_hater4566 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That video transition was slick as hell

  • @thomasdr08
    @thomasdr08 13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    god, I LOVE this beat

  • @Homelander42
    @Homelander42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    who else saw this say 10 years ago and felt old when 10 years ago was 2009

  • @moerahman6749
    @moerahman6749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Fun fact: according to Manny Marroquin, the track’s mix engineer, in the end they went back to the original kick they had on the first day.

    • @zackyzackyzacky1
      @zackyzackyzacky1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kanye moment

    • @DJIC3Y
      @DJIC3Y ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the original kick was fine tbh

  • @JustJazzzy
    @JustJazzzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kanye went to Timbaland with that beat and he knew he had to “Bow at the presence of greatness”

  • @jeremythompson6822
    @jeremythompson6822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    This man said he got every drum machine and every choir ever made @2:30

    • @FA-te4yt
      @FA-te4yt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Jeremy Thompson i believe timb

    • @TheShadowless
      @TheShadowless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      This man is the God on drums/percussion so I would say it’s safe to say I believe him 😂

    • @ChescoYT
      @ChescoYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheShadowless no he's not. He had a ghost producer protégée named 'Danjahandz' producing some of his greatest beats and took credit for it.

    • @g_o-a_t
      @g_o-a_t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@ChescoYT danja did melodies..timbos cataloge goes back to 96...there is no better drum/percussion programmer in urban music...he never used the same drum pattern and his sense for rhythm is unique. 1.5TB of beats on my hard drive aint lying

    • @matthewsolis3826
      @matthewsolis3826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@g_o-a_t holy shit. Bro i didn't realize he never used the same drum pattern

  • @crystalmeza1772
    @crystalmeza1772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Timberland beats so specific as I’m listening to this in my cars speakers the drums beat is coming out of the speakers flawlessly through both sides.

  • @KTA-SOSA
    @KTA-SOSA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Some people an just hear the sound no one else can, it’s a special talent

  • @talschulmiller9058
    @talschulmiller9058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i love when youtube suggests me a random video from the kanye west expanded universe

  • @2341damie
    @2341damie 13 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Timberland is the professor of sound !! . Fucking legend !!

  • @chrischan2395
    @chrischan2395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love a lot of Ye's music, but Graduation is always going to be my favourite of his albums.

  • @gavinjamesaitken1
    @gavinjamesaitken1 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so much talent in that room!

  • @jacobstraut5601
    @jacobstraut5601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could hear it today when I was listening that with the bass itself, the other sound was coming in to emphasize it just enough.

  • @indamaking
    @indamaking ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the song that introduced me to Kanye

  • @farhanj123
    @farhanj123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my favorite song of all time!

  • @jenki221
    @jenki221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love watching genius at work

  • @MF-ed1uk
    @MF-ed1uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    5:38 and the magic begins like Godzilla stepping on the dance floor ! This beat ist Epic

  • @NickLivi
    @NickLivi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tim is a legend. Forreal

  • @La_La79
    @La_La79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 🐐's 🙌🏽❤️

  • @TheAceBandit502
    @TheAceBandit502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is something to commend when a person not only help you to fix something but also teaches you how he did it.

  • @kevinrivera6695
    @kevinrivera6695 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:41 as soon as Timbaland touch the board the magic 🪄 happens

    • @JRPete
      @JRPete ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was like timbaland's heart was part of the demo.

  • @keanuismyfather7477
    @keanuismyfather7477 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah yes my favourite Knye song “Stonger” off the album “Gaduation”

  • @Jabariemoore
    @Jabariemoore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    back here to listen to this legendary track in 2022

    • @meme5651
      @meme5651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My inspiration for life

  • @ksiss8616
    @ksiss8616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tims a goat man, even dealing wit opiod addiction his beats still always hit, even tho he feels it affected it, I truly haven't heard a tim beat that I sais naa

  • @nanagyambibi7426
    @nanagyambibi7426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The science behind sampling and drums is amazing to see...whether its an amateur in his room alone or grandmasters like Ye and TImbo