There actually is a very famous traveller in Planetos, a westerosi called Lomas Longstrider. He wrote two books, "The Wonders made by Man" and "Wonders", each looking at places he visitied during his journeys. Sadly, the farthest he has ever gone was Yi Ti. And even before that, he arrived at the Bone Mountains and thought he reached the end of the world. Although it would be amaizing if George wrote some kind of traveller's diary of Lomas Longstrider, and publish it as a book we could read, and actually know what the Bone Mountains and Yi Ti look like, I think that it won't be George who will write it. Sadly it does take a lot of his time to write books, and it will be many years before A Song of Ice and Fire series is finished, and maybe he'll have to pass the world building to someone else. Maybe then we could finally see the lands beyond the Bone Mountains. But I think it is better how it is now. Mysterious, and left for out imagination. :-)
Island is only about 2 and a half times the size of Britain. Its not really that huge when compared with the world, All tho it still its a massive island.
Earth's surface is roughly 500 million km². Iceland is 100 000 km². According to what you say, Ibben is also 100K km², so if ever anyone has a scaled map of Planetos, please be my guest and look at how many times Ibben fits in there haha
Kind of interesting how the farther you go East, thus the farther you go from the Citadel, the more absurd the people and cultures become. It's like how the farther you are from an event in Westeros, the crazier and less accurate the stories you hear become. I think it's safe to assume that most of these stories are false or exaggerated. The farthest East we've gone is Qarth, but even there they speak familiar tongues and trade familiar items and their culture is far from shocking.
Honestly, that was probably GRRM's goal. I have this headcanon that a Yi Ti soldier sitting in the Five Forts knows about as much about Westeros as a Westerosi of the Night's Watch in Castle Black knows about Yi Ti. They'd look at a similar map of the Known World, particularly at Westeros, and say: ""Jesus, look at this. Krakens from the Iron Islands that pillage ships? What are they, metal squids?! And I hear they have wild fire. Like, fire that just runs wild? Is it alive? Does it run around in packs?! And there's a frikken God's eye in the middle of everything?! Jesus, what a weird place."
Yeah, it's supposed to be realistic in the same sense that the medieval world only knew about areas far from it from rumors and stories. It's not a coincidence that all the world we HAVE seen in the books and show are pretty low fantasy, but the ones we've only heard of are high fantasy.
It is interesting, but Maesters also seem to think that Children of the Forest, the Others and White Walkers aren't real. Those things are just in the North. Hardly as far.
G.R.R. Martin created a very interesting universe. I'd love to watch it filled with more stories, based on both Essos and Westeros (maybe even Sothoryos), but with his current writing pace...
Love ur videos. GRRM is definitely gonna die before he dose absolutely everything he wants, I hope he leaves pages of notes on his world building like Tolkien but that dosent seem his style
I'm sure he's got a ton of history written, and all kinds of stories we haven't seen yet. It's why ASOIAF is so good. He's established a rich history, but enough mystery in between everything, it leaves us craving more. Have faith. George will deliver.
I dare to say, thats probably because most of the crazy tales we just heared, likely arent actually true. Let me explain why I think that, before you butcher me. In the West magic and magical beings are a rarity. Dragons reappearing seems like miracle and we are talking about only 3, Children of the Forest and Giants are extremely rare and hidden away, there are only a few magic users and when it comes to the White Walkers barely anyone believed they even exist. And yet the tales of the east tell us about magic, supernatural curiosities, abominations, spectres, monsters, sorcerers, dragons and even demons being literally everywhere. I mean seriously everywhere, according to the information in this video. Thats quite a difference there, in what Martin tells us. Did you ever ask yourself why? I would bet it is, because this is written from the view of an Westeros citizen and is supposed to mirror the misconceptions people had in medieval ages about places far away. If you ask an citizen of Medieval england, what he knows about China, then most would probably wonder what a China is and those, who heared of it, will tell you some crazy story nowhere near actual medieval chinese reality. Only a few people could give you an even semirealistic account. Now I know this is a fantasy realm and some of the stuff might be real and the more factual reports about the local empires, like Yi Ti and the city states are also true, but most, if not all, of the stories about all those weird paranormal races, living beyond the states borders, probably are just really weird rumors, that the western lands have floating around, about the lands beyond the bone mountains. I think if we actually had a story set in those regions, it would sound much more similar to what we hear about Westeros and western Essos in other stories, then to the account given to us in this video (but I doubt that'll ever happen). And again, I dont mean to say that the Author of this video made a mistake or lied, I simply think thats what Martin really intended to create, when he wrote this. Considering that a lot of what he writes in some form mimics real history, I wouldnt be surprised.
@@thezeitos469 In Planetos, many of this are considered real dating back to the appearance of dragons, giants, children of the forest and the Others/White Walkers. Its the Maesters fault for keeping Westeros in check in ignorance of the wider world. Its not a conspiracy that they're the ones planted the downfall of the Targaryen as well poisoning the dragons to a slow death. They rather keep information that spreading it.
@@thezeitos469 to think otherwise than what youve stated in your comment it be foolish. to see evidence for this, look no further than chapters of 5th book, where in tyrion and quentin chapters you can see what people say about daenerys, thats she eats flesh and bathes in blood and fucks horses and all that, when in reality, well, shes just basic. the further away from the westeros adjacent regions the stories go, the more exagerated and unrealistic they are, because people just come up with unfounded stoies. grrm even said himself his writing style isnt an absolute, like in other fantasies where the past is known as fact, to the smallest detail, from times past gone, but more accurately ita like in the real world, where we barely know or assume what happened and its almost never certain
Damn when it comes to magic,darkness,and brutality esso makes westeros look like SpongeBob SquarePants and in the capital of westeros kings landing motherfucker's are known to just beat some poor baster on the street and eat them if there not well fed enough.
ALRIGHT, clearly "Carcosa" is a tribute to the "Yellow King"; a nice easter egg for influence on G.R.R.M.'s work. The great thing about this easter egg is that Carcosa/Yellow King plays a large role in the subject matter of another famous TV show from HBO called True Detective: specifically Season 1
The yellow emperor of carcosa is a reference to a book called the Yellow King which inspired HP Lovecraft and some of the lore of the tv show True Detective (first season)
I love learning about this stuff in the ASOIAF universe cause they never talk about it in the books or show and you actually have to look it up and search for yourself. Btw CivilizationEx, can you do a video about Sothoryos, Ulthos, and/or the Summer Isles as well? :)
Irish Jester GRRM co-authored a history book called the World of Ice and Fire, and a book of maps called the Lands of Ice and Fire, they have most of this info.
I feel when naming some of these eastern cities that won't play a role in the series, George Martin just started making up some funny gibberish names and went BAM CITY
I love seeing all this little-known stuff, great vid. Would you ever consider doing a video about Lovecraft references in ASOIF? There seems to be a lot to cover, but I think it'd be interesting.
It would be cool if HBO does a future sequel or prequel of one of the explorers or adventurers from Westeros traveling to eastern Essos where get to see these mysterious exotic lands and cities. Sort of like Marco Polo and Moor explorer Ibn Battuta traveling to Persia, China, India, and Southeast Asia.
All those Islands are made up of a bunch of Easter Eggs. I'm pretty sure GRRM is waiting to die so we can blame the story-telling on the bad writing he gave his lifework to on "authors he trusts"
Jogos Nhai=Mongols Sand Sea= Gobi-desert? Kayakayanaya etc.=Baktria Yi Ti=China Leng= mix of Korea, Taiwan and Japan Asshai=India, if Itamar was right. Grey Waste and Mossovy=Siberia
The Dothraki have already been established as being a sort of cross between the Mongolians and HUns I would suspect that the Jogos Nhai are more similar to the Uyghurs or gokturks or even Jurchens
That's meant to be a joke.. but at the same time it's true. For all the people thinking I'm dumb and for all the nerds coming out to say how that's not true.
its like 5am in the UK man, but I had to wake up and watch your video, great work man. Do you think we might see any of these far away lands, maybe through a dany POV or other books, if George lives that long :(
i dont think so..geore has them for reason of mysticity..i think we will be hearing more about far east in the future but i highly doubt george would take us there
HailMe Maybe, but Assai has been brought up so many times, I feel like maybe we could see it, but yh I think you're right, we probably won't see them, it does at a nice bit of mystery and gives us room for speculation which I like.
There is one thing tho. There is Quaithe. Remember she said to Dany "To go west you must go East" and also "You must pass beneath the shadow to find the truth". You can say the first is just philosophical, but the latter is literally talking about Asshai. So maybe Dany will fail to invade Westeros and then she may go East or something.
***** Yes that's why I thought we could see it through her. But I think she will go east first, then west, I dislike dany, but she is an interesting character got to say.
I think we'll get to read about other lands. Tolkien's son Christopher took over that world and it's damn good. He had his father's notes and the fact the Hobbit was written for him so he's extremely familiar with the characters. I hope Martin has a backup plan. He's well aware of his position regarding death. There's also plenty of people capable of taking over his work when he does die. Provided they don't retcon anything. Like expanding history based on the lore we already have without altering. In some cases were there are multiple legends, the like hero of the long night, the writer gets some creative freedom but not full freedom. The future of the series canon is where it gets tricky. As you're in uncharted territory. I dunno just some thoughts.
The fact that the thousand islands are called the thousand islands yet there are less than thee hundred reminds me of how the iron throne is said to be made of a thousand swords yet little finger counted less than two hundred swords.
+Minato D Roger you have demons and dragons and a thousand god- emperors and tiger women and bone cities. that's interesting or even more than westros.
I agree but no characters out there that are intteresting sadly unless Martin writes about one I mean Yi Ti has my interest no lie and the Jqar i like them more than the dothraki
If one lived in the East, the west would be mystical and more interesting for him of her. It’s just a matter of perspective. Macro Polo claimed that Yuan Emperors only used gold to build their palaces. That never happened. There is no archeological evidence of a gold palace in China.
Awesome video. IDEAS OF ICE AND FIRE did a video about the wall in far far east. made of black stone and inhabited by creatures that came from the sea. He mentioned maybe that Wall and the Westerosi wall have more in common than we think. It is amazing how u find all this info. And THANK YOU for doing readings of the newly released chapters. U were first channel in my subscriptions to do it😊Have u done the prophecies of the GHOST OF HIGH HEART? I'd love to see it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!!
Thank you! And yes I've don a series about Prophecies, check it out if interested, Ghost of High Heart is ep 2 I believe :) th-cam.com/video/xi-cOBlmrhE/w-d-xo.html
Will DEFINITELY check it out. My brother has FINALLY gotten into GoT. He's hooked now!! I told him about your channel and he's been watching u ALot!!! R u going to do the Euron chapter soon? Thanks again. I will help with a donation as soon as I can😀💖
hey civilization ex i absolutely a major fan of your channel. i love to learn history/ geography they are best and favorite classes and i love medieval / fantasy shows and games. I was was wondering if you could a do a few more serious on your channel ? like could you continue with your dragon age series and maybe do the the elder scrolls and witcher that would be super aswsome. keep up the good work man , your doing a great job
Thank you! I do hope to explore Elder Scrolls and the Witcher in the future, but Dragon Age did not get many views so it isnt really worth it to make more.
The places beyond Bone Mountains are not so mystical. Asshai is known place, Mel is from there. Nogos Naghai are big enemy of Bone Mountains people. Yi Ti is known place. But the things and places east of Yi Ti and beyond the five fords are something else. There the things get really darker and creepier.
the whole demon-dragon thing seems useful as information of what has been going on in this universe: the whole story could be some sort of gradual world domination plans of the monsters. makes also sense if some demon vs dragon thing comes up after humanity dies.
It's more interesting because it's not focused on as much. Westeros would be more interesting if all we heard about it was that it was ruled by dragon-riding kings, was being attacked by immortal ice beings in the North, had people capable of possessing animals, and was once populated by magical forest dwellers and giants.
Yi Ti sounds a lot like medieval or old China. And the rest of eastern Essos being other parts of Asia or our Far East. The Bone Mountains might be the Ural mountains or the Caucasus mountains or a combinations of the two dividing Europe (Westeros and western Essos) and Asia (eastern Essos). The Dothraki sea is most likely or very obviously central Asia especially given the fact that there are violent horse lords in this time period.
I would love to see a book series come out detaling events that were happening in YI TI at the same time as ASOIAF. I think the far east has such untapped potential to tell some extremely interesting stories. It could have the 2nd long night as the underlying threat of the story and work in conjunction to ASOIAF. Of course GRRM needs to finish ASOIAF first still waiting on winds of winter.
If you go east and east again you will find... The wall. Westeros and Essos and connected you see, remember what quaith said to dany "to go west you must go east" I think that means that it is a round planet and north of westeros and east esssos are the same
I love how the further east you go, the stranger and more fanciful the descriptions are of the people and animal are, to the point where you wonder if this reflects the ignorance of the Westerosi maesters? These descriptions sound like the sort of things that Medieval Europeans might have heard about the far east, like there were tales of tribes of headless men for example or one eyed men,
Why does "Mossovy" look like a word straight out of russian? Cold place, near Yi Ti (China) and distant to westerosi (european) ambitions before they started to grow? I mean...
Has there been a story that does an infinite expanse thing for their fantasy world? I know a few Sci-Fis go off the 'The Universe is infinite' premise but I've never seen it done in terms of a planet that just goes on forever with continuously new continents and islands and people. Definitely wouldn't happen in this story cause they've confirmed Planetos is a globe but it would be interesting to see it done somewhere else.
Carcosa and Yellow Emperor(king), someone has read their Chambers... GRRM never ceases to surprise me. Because of the lovecraftian references scattered across the Far East of Essos, I doubt we’ll ever get any more intricate details or complex storylines originating from there, as that would defeat the point in the references.
Just noticing that in the theme opening to the tv series, Vaes Dothrak is in a drastically different location. Anyone know if this was intentional? Or if GRRM approved?
The show uses an old version of the map because it came out before GRRM finalized the geography in the Lands of Ice and Fire. But now they have to keep using the old one to be consistent. But as far as book canon is concerned, the one in these vids is correct.
I hope they make more shows about game of thrones universe for us fans, I wanna see the grey waste, asshai, stygia and the thousand isles on screen and know more about ti
i was drinking and i spit in laughter all over my keyboard when you said said "99 percent of the men dont meet the requirements to breed with the warrior women " .. now i have pepsi all over my computer
The way the long night began in both the unmapped land in the far east of essos and the unmapped far north of westeros makes me feel like they connect at some point not yet discovered.
In the context of that world, describing the East as flipping crazy is analogous to real world Orientalism, so its mostly just tall tales. But if that stuff is true then dammit I'd love to read a story set over there!
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I wish GRRM would write a Marco Polo type story of an adventurer going to the far East of Esso. It sounds so interesting!
There actually is a very famous traveller in Planetos, a westerosi called Lomas Longstrider. He wrote two books, "The Wonders made by Man" and "Wonders", each looking at places he visitied during his journeys.
Sadly, the farthest he has ever gone was Yi Ti. And even before that, he arrived at the Bone Mountains and thought he reached the end of the world.
Although it would be amaizing if George wrote some kind of traveller's diary of Lomas Longstrider, and publish it as a book we could read, and actually know what the Bone Mountains and Yi Ti look like, I think that it won't be George who will write it. Sadly it does take a lot of his time to write books, and it will be many years before A Song of Ice and Fire series is finished, and maybe he'll have to pass the world building to someone else.
Maybe then we could finally see the lands beyond the Bone Mountains. But I think it is better how it is now. Mysterious, and left for out imagination. :-)
that would be awesome, but I would settle for a complete ASOIAF
The adventures of Gerion Lannister.
Cloud Strife I would hope he would just explain the Lands and myths after he's finished with all the books.
That would be great, a series made entirely in Essos, and maybe some information on ulthos and sothorysis
I would kill to find out what is beyond that map's edges.
We all would,man.We all would.
west of westeros you mean? =)
Anywhere really,we only what to know more about the world.
Island is only about 2 and a half times the size of Britain. Its not really that huge when compared with the world, All tho it still its a massive island.
Earth's surface is roughly 500 million km². Iceland is 100 000 km². According to what you say, Ibben is also 100K km², so if ever anyone has a scaled map of Planetos, please be my guest and look at how many times Ibben fits in there haha
Kind of interesting how the farther you go East, thus the farther you go from the Citadel, the more absurd the people and cultures become. It's like how the farther you are from an event in Westeros, the crazier and less accurate the stories you hear become. I think it's safe to assume that most of these stories are false or exaggerated. The farthest East we've gone is Qarth, but even there they speak familiar tongues and trade familiar items and their culture is far from shocking.
Honestly, that was probably GRRM's goal.
I have this headcanon that a Yi Ti soldier sitting in the Five Forts knows about as much about Westeros as a Westerosi of the Night's Watch in Castle Black knows about Yi Ti. They'd look at a similar map of the Known World, particularly at Westeros, and say: ""Jesus, look at this. Krakens from the Iron Islands that pillage ships? What are they, metal squids?! And I hear they have wild fire. Like, fire that just runs wild? Is it alive? Does it run around in packs?! And there's a frikken God's eye in the middle of everything?! Jesus, what a weird place."
Yeah, it's supposed to be realistic in the same sense that the medieval world only knew about areas far from it from rumors and stories. It's not a coincidence that all the world we HAVE seen in the books and show are pretty low fantasy, but the ones we've only heard of are high fantasy.
The quartheen are far more interesting in the books
In the books they have really white skin and the women have one breast uncovered
once again grrm is analoging old earth. the "here be dragons", Cyclops, Centaurs, Blemmyes etc, except on Planetos some of the things do exist.
It is interesting, but Maesters also seem to think that Children of the Forest, the Others and White Walkers aren't real. Those things are just in the North. Hardly as far.
If you go too far east Youll end up in the shire
xD
Or in Lindon..... xD
Tobias Wulff if you go too far east you'll find the place where morgoth was banished
Jarls Terra ponyland? I cant think of a worst fate
If you go too far easy you’ll end up with COVID-19
You may enter in the lands of mordor where the shadows lie.
G.R.R. Martin created a very interesting universe. I'd love to watch it filled with more stories, based on both Essos and Westeros (maybe even Sothoryos), but with his current writing pace...
That would be amazing👍🔥🔥
Love ur videos. GRRM is definitely gonna die before he dose absolutely everything he wants, I hope he leaves pages of notes on his world building like Tolkien but that dosent seem his style
I'm sure he's got a ton of history written, and all kinds of stories we haven't seen yet. It's why ASOIAF is so good. He's established a rich history, but enough mystery in between everything, it leaves us craving more. Have faith. George will deliver.
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@Theo Angelo flixportal =)
Eastern Essos sounds absolutely terrifying, lol. Almost wish we had an entire TV series set in that part of the world.
Aaah Eastern Essos, such a pleasant place!
Now after seeing so many races, Westeros feels quite boring.
I hear you.
Game of Thrones that concentrated on Westeros is really a buckload.
I dare to say, thats probably because most of the crazy tales we just heared, likely arent actually true. Let me explain why I think that, before you butcher me.
In the West magic and magical beings are a rarity. Dragons reappearing seems like miracle and we are talking about only 3, Children of the Forest and Giants are extremely rare and hidden away, there are only a few magic users and when it comes to the White Walkers barely anyone believed they even exist.
And yet the tales of the east tell us about magic, supernatural curiosities, abominations, spectres, monsters, sorcerers, dragons and even demons being literally everywhere. I mean seriously everywhere, according to the information in this video.
Thats quite a difference there, in what Martin tells us.
Did you ever ask yourself why?
I would bet it is, because this is written from the view of an Westeros citizen and is supposed to mirror the misconceptions people had in medieval ages about places far away. If you ask an citizen of Medieval england, what he knows about China, then most would probably wonder what a China is and those, who heared of it, will tell you some crazy story nowhere near actual medieval chinese reality. Only a few people could give you an even semirealistic account.
Now I know this is a fantasy realm and some of the stuff might be real and the more factual reports about the local empires, like Yi Ti and the city states are also true, but most, if not all, of the stories about all those weird paranormal races, living beyond the states borders, probably are just really weird rumors, that the western lands have floating around, about the lands beyond the bone mountains.
I think if we actually had a story set in those regions, it would sound much more similar to what we hear about Westeros and western Essos in other stories, then to the account given to us in this video (but I doubt that'll ever happen).
And again, I dont mean to say that the Author of this video made a mistake or lied, I simply think thats what Martin really intended to create, when he wrote this. Considering that a lot of what he writes in some form mimics real history, I wouldnt be surprised.
@@rogueascendant6611 well, thats ebcause marhtin wanted to write a low fantasy history, not anything like conan the barbarian
@@thezeitos469 In Planetos, many of this are considered real dating back to the appearance of dragons, giants, children of the forest and the Others/White Walkers. Its the Maesters fault for keeping Westeros in check in ignorance of the wider world. Its not a conspiracy that they're the ones planted the downfall of the Targaryen as well poisoning the dragons to a slow death. They rather keep information that spreading it.
@@thezeitos469 to think otherwise than what youve stated in your comment it be foolish. to see evidence for this, look no further than chapters of 5th book, where in tyrion and quentin chapters you can see what people say about daenerys, thats she eats flesh and bathes in blood and fucks horses and all that, when in reality, well, shes just basic.
the further away from the westeros adjacent regions the stories go, the more exagerated and unrealistic they are, because people just come up with unfounded stoies. grrm even said himself his writing style isnt an absolute, like in other fantasies where the past is known as fact, to the smallest detail, from times past gone, but more accurately ita like in the real world, where we barely know or assume what happened and its almost never certain
its been 3 years and i still rewatch this sometimes because of how cool eastern essos sounds
Damn when it comes to magic,darkness,and brutality esso makes westeros look like SpongeBob SquarePants and in the capital of westeros kings landing motherfucker's are known to just beat some poor baster on the street and eat them if there not well fed enough.
Am I the only one who already knows this stuff but still enjoys watching these videos?
No
How do you know all that? Actually, How does Civilization X know all that?
Zack Light I read all the novels, accompanying short stories and The World of Ice and Fire.
I support Sorcerer Lord, the 69th Yellow Emperor. I support pretty much anything 69 related.
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ALRIGHT, clearly "Carcosa" is a tribute to the "Yellow King"; a nice easter egg for influence on G.R.R.M.'s work.
The great thing about this easter egg is that Carcosa/Yellow King plays a large role in the subject matter of another famous TV show from HBO called True Detective: specifically Season 1
Nice...
Yeah
We really need a version for Essos, can't wait to meet the old gods, mad gods, vampires, demons, balrogs, dragons and other creatures.
Eastern Essos seems like a pretty chill place.
The yellow emperor of carcosa is a reference to a book called the Yellow King which inspired HP Lovecraft and some of the lore of the tv show True Detective (first season)
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this guy figured out how to say the names of these cities but we still can't agree on how to pronouce "GIF"
Gif
Unless you pronounce "graphic" as "jraphic" its defs Giff
I love learning about this stuff in the ASOIAF universe cause they never talk about it in the books or show and you actually have to look it up and search for yourself. Btw CivilizationEx, can you do a video about Sothoryos, Ulthos, and/or the Summer Isles as well? :)
Yes, I will be doing vids about Sothoryos, Ulthos, the Jade Sea and the Summer Isles in the next few weeks. :)
+CivilizationEx thank you:)
Irish Jester GRRM co-authored a history book called the World of Ice and Fire, and a book of maps called the Lands of Ice and Fire, they have most of this info.
Not enough known about Ulthos for a video.
Honestly this upload was a great birthday present
Happy Birthday! :)
04:00 lol Kil'Jaden, Archimonde,Void shade, Nathrazime and pitlord...
nice one
Yup, I noticed it too. At first I was wondering if it was the real appearance of the presumed demons that was inspired by WoW x)
+LeDingueDeJeuxVideos to be honest they are kinda perfect representation of demons...they look badass
+LeDingueDeJeuxVideos to be honest they are kinda perfect representation of demons...they look badass
perhaps, but they may not have a "asoiaf"-like appearance...
In just impressed at how well you pronounced everything
I feel when naming some of these eastern cities that won't play a role in the series, George Martin just started making up some funny gibberish names and went BAM CITY
I love seeing all this little-known stuff, great vid. Would you ever consider doing a video about Lovecraft references in ASOIF? There seems to be a lot to cover, but I think it'd be interesting.
It would be cool if HBO does a future sequel or prequel of one of the explorers or adventurers from Westeros traveling to eastern Essos where get to see these mysterious exotic lands and cities. Sort of like Marco Polo and Moor explorer Ibn Battuta traveling to Persia, China, India, and Southeast Asia.
how cool would it be if jorah mormont went to asshai in search for a cure?
saddly fat old sam found a cure in the citadel and jorah never went to asshai :(
I think it should be gendry
Corlys Velaryon: The Sea Snake
All those Islands are made up of a bunch of Easter Eggs. I'm pretty sure GRRM is waiting to die so we can blame the story-telling on the bad writing he gave his lifework to on "authors he trusts"
AMAZING! Thank you man! I've been looking for this everywhere!
Jogos Nhai=Mongols
Sand Sea= Gobi-desert?
Kayakayanaya etc.=Baktria
Yi Ti=China
Leng= mix of Korea, Taiwan and Japan
Asshai=India, if Itamar was right.
Grey Waste and Mossovy=Siberia
Yup everything except Asshai. I'm thinking that the Indians are the Shadow men living in the mountains but their appearances were exaggerated.
Since they're living in the mountains, wouldn't that make them more similar to Tibetans?
+Disappointed Turtle Yeah I guess
in a way yes, but in a way also
dathraki = mongols,
jogos nhai = the huns (the huns used to mishape their heads also)
The Dothraki have already been established as being a sort of cross between the Mongolians and HUns I would suspect that the Jogos Nhai are more similar to the Uyghurs or gokturks or even Jurchens
Now THIS is the adaption of GRRM's work we need! Especially the Yi Ti dynastys!
I love your pronunciation's, that wasn't a joke, I love them
hi redpanda
spoiler alert (not really)... if you go too far east, you end up west of Westeros
not really
it's a sphere so that's not exactly a suprise
That's meant to be a joke.. but at the same time it's true. For all the people thinking I'm dumb and for all the nerds coming out to say how that's not true.
Sebastian SM Martin said they wernt
what if in this world The World Isn't around?
I really really wish there was more information on mossovy. I’m so curious about that place.
I love your format man...The music and illustrations are awesome. Keep it up!
2:53 I like how GRR makes references to Lovecraft and Chambers and made a nod to the King in Yellow by having Yellow Emperor of Carcossa
God damn GRRM! Let someone else take full reign of the series after your watch ends. There's so much material in the universe.
Even though I don't remember a lot of the info, I honestly love these videos, very entertaining and your voice is awesome :D
cool video, love seeing other parts of the world that aren't talked about much in the books/show
Hey mate loved your video. I would love more videos about not know Essos facts and stories.
Cheers
This is great ASOIAF Untold stories big thanks CivilizationEx! Im so addicted to watch keep it up! ^_^
dude what a brilliant video detailing the mysterious lands to the far east! Bravo!
This was awesome!
It's so sad to realize that George won't be able to complete the stories of eastern Essos
i like your other vids but the vids about essos are one of my faves.
love it when you play that song in your game of thrones videos. sets the mood real well haha
they need make a book on Eastern Essos
they should make a spinoff series only on eastern Essos. It's a vast franchise!
Love the vid!
Where do you get all this amazing information and content?
Most of this info comes from the World of Ice and Fire history book.
I still need to read that, thanks,never expected it to be so detailed
Great video!
Thanks for these amazing videos. It reminds me how amazing the world of ice and fire is. I think I will read the series again :)
I'd like to think the City of Winged Men are really just a bunch of dudes with Leonardo Di Vinci type hangliders.
I also think that's the case and they are using these "wings" to ease moving in the harsh desert environment.
Your pronounciation is spot on!
its like 5am in the UK man, but I had to wake up and watch your video, great work man. Do you think we might see any of these far away lands, maybe through a dany POV or other books, if George lives that long :(
i dont think so..geore has them for reason of mysticity..i think we will be hearing more about far east in the future but i highly doubt george would take us there
HailMe Maybe, but Assai has been brought up so many times, I feel like maybe we could see it, but yh I think you're right, we probably won't see them, it does at a nice bit of mystery and gives us room for speculation which I like.
There is one thing tho. There is Quaithe.
Remember she said to Dany "To go west you must go East" and also "You must pass beneath the shadow to find the truth". You can say the first is just philosophical, but the latter is literally talking about Asshai. So maybe Dany will fail to invade Westeros and then she may go East or something.
***** Yes that's why I thought we could see it through her. But I think she will go east first, then west, I dislike dany, but she is an interesting character got to say.
I think we'll get to read about other lands. Tolkien's son Christopher took over that world and it's damn good. He had his father's notes and the fact the Hobbit was written for him so he's extremely familiar with the characters. I hope Martin has a backup plan. He's well aware of his position regarding death. There's also plenty of people capable of taking over his work when he does die. Provided they don't retcon anything. Like expanding history based on the lore we already have without altering. In some cases were there are multiple legends, the like hero of the long night, the writer gets some creative freedom but not full freedom. The future of the series canon is where it gets tricky. As you're in uncharted territory.
I dunno just some thoughts.
@CivilizationEx I love how your images for demons/evil gods are Warcraft demons. I wonder if this means we might get a Warcraft series one day?
Awesome vid!
so informative
He just borrowed the shrieking monsters from the land of Shrykes straight from his Lord of the Rings vids.
Ahh Eastern Essos! I really hope we get to learn/see more of this area in the series!!!
So basicly everything on the right side of the bone mountains is a combination of Lovecraft, Bierce and Chambers.
Don't forget also World of Warcraft.
World of Warcraft is based on the three authors named above
Also real life history
unematrix k, thx.
Also China
Great Vid
The fact that the thousand islands are called the thousand islands yet there are less than thee hundred reminds me of how the iron throne is said to be made of a thousand swords yet little finger counted less than two hundred swords.
So did the long night also effect Essos? and they have white walkers in Essos?
Hey man you forgot about city of Nefer..Also will you be doing video about the Sarnori and the Tall man? :)
Nice video btw :)
awesome I love your videos
why the hell is this story based westros!?! the east is far more interesting
cause the characters west are more interesting but i feels ya
+Minato D Roger you have demons and dragons and a thousand god- emperors and tiger women and bone cities. that's interesting or even more than westros.
I agree but no characters out there that are intteresting sadly unless Martin writes about one I mean Yi Ti has my interest no lie and the Jqar i like them more than the dothraki
They should have stopped the series when it reached the books, and started a spin-off in eastern Essos, until the new books comes out.
If one lived in the East, the west would be mystical and more interesting for him of her. It’s just a matter of perspective. Macro Polo claimed that Yuan Emperors only used gold to build their palaces. That never happened. There is no archeological evidence of a gold palace in China.
The fact that we know there's more to the east but it's just cut off there triggers me to no end.
Awesome video. IDEAS OF ICE AND FIRE did a video about the wall in far far east. made of black stone and inhabited by creatures that came from the sea. He mentioned maybe that Wall and the Westerosi wall have more in common than we think. It is amazing how u find all this info. And THANK YOU for doing readings of the newly released chapters. U were first channel in my subscriptions to do it😊Have u done the prophecies of the GHOST OF HIGH HEART? I'd love to see it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!!
Thank you! And yes I've don a series about Prophecies, check it out if interested, Ghost of High Heart is ep 2 I believe :) th-cam.com/video/xi-cOBlmrhE/w-d-xo.html
Will DEFINITELY check it out. My brother has FINALLY gotten into GoT. He's hooked now!! I told him about your channel and he's been watching u ALot!!! R u going to do the Euron chapter soon? Thanks again. I will help with a donation as soon as I can😀💖
Kerri McDonald Thank you! I hope to do all the preview chapters I am missing before the start of Season 7.
hey civilization ex i absolutely a major fan of your channel. i love to learn history/ geography they are best and favorite classes and i love medieval / fantasy shows and games. I was was wondering if you could a do a few more serious on your channel ? like could you continue with your dragon age series and maybe do the the elder scrolls and witcher that would be super aswsome. keep up the good work man , your doing a great job
Thank you! I do hope to explore Elder Scrolls and the Witcher in the future, but Dragon Age did not get many views so it isnt really worth it to make more.
+CivilizationEx wow I'm shocked by that dragon didn't do good but maybe when the next dragon age come out maybe it will
The yellow king of Carcosa? Maybe inspired by The King in Yellow, which also inspired True Detective season 1?
It's anything goes after the Bone Mountains.
The places beyond Bone Mountains are not so mystical. Asshai is known place, Mel is from there. Nogos Naghai are big enemy of Bone Mountains people. Yi Ti is known place. But the things and places east of Yi Ti and beyond the five fords are something else. There the things get really darker and creepier.
honestly i like Essos more than westeros.
Leng, Kdath, and the Deep Ones? Just how much Lovecraft has GRRM read?
Where did you get all this information from?
Most of it is from the World of Ice and Fire
CivilizationEx can you do a dothraki sea video?
Cone shaped heads? Now we know where Ki Adi Mundi came from.
It was apparently a practice done in South America as well. It’s crazy that something like that is possible
the whole demon-dragon thing seems useful as information of what has been going on in this universe: the whole story could be some sort of gradual world domination plans of the monsters. makes also sense if some demon vs dragon thing comes up after humanity dies.
Is it me or is Essos way more interesting than Westeros?
It's more interesting because it's not focused on as much. Westeros would be more interesting if all we heard about it was that it was ruled by dragon-riding kings, was being attacked by immortal ice beings in the North, had people capable of possessing animals, and was once populated by magical forest dwellers and giants.
Also, Essos is much bigger than Westeros, and many of its civilizations are significantly older than even the oldest Westerosi ones.
Yi Ti sounds a lot like medieval or old China. And the rest of eastern Essos being other parts of Asia or our Far East. The Bone Mountains might be the Ural mountains or the Caucasus mountains or a combinations of the two dividing Europe (Westeros and western Essos) and Asia (eastern Essos). The Dothraki sea is most likely or very obviously central Asia especially given the fact that there are violent horse lords in this time period.
Yi ti sounds more like india to me, it even looks like india.
@@tamalito111 it is not their architecture looks like Chinese
I love how Martin snuck in Carcosa and the yellow king although if you know the story it's obvious but cool he made it a "legend"
So the Grey Waste is similar to beyond the Wall and the raiders are like Wildlings? Is all of this information from A World of Ice & Fire book?
These videos are all amazing, subbed. Although my brain refuses to adapt to that lower case w lol
Thank you! It is a pretty awful W :(
Read The World of Ice and Fire if you want the full depth of it.
asdfghjkl I've read bits of it but these videos put everything together perfectly.
I would love to see a book series come out detaling events that were happening in YI TI at the same time as ASOIAF. I think the far east has such untapped potential to tell some extremely interesting stories. It could have the 2nd long night as the underlying threat of the story and work in conjunction to ASOIAF. Of course GRRM needs to finish ASOIAF first still waiting on winds of winter.
If you go east and east again you will find... The wall.
Westeros and Essos and connected you see, remember what quaith said to dany "to go west you must go east" I think that means that it is a round planet and north of westeros and east esssos are the same
Did anyone else notice the shadow men sound a bit like Quiathe, I mean Red wooden mask and all.
I love how the further east you go, the stranger and more fanciful the descriptions are of the people and animal are, to the point where you wonder if this reflects the ignorance of the Westerosi maesters? These descriptions sound like the sort of things that Medieval Europeans might have heard about the far east, like there were tales of tribes of headless men for example or one eyed men,
Why does "Mossovy" look like a word straight out of russian?
Cold place, near Yi Ti (China) and distant to westerosi (european) ambitions before they started to grow? I mean...
Has there been a story that does an infinite expanse thing for their fantasy world? I know a few Sci-Fis go off the 'The Universe is infinite' premise but I've never seen it done in terms of a planet that just goes on forever with continuously new continents and islands and people. Definitely wouldn't happen in this story cause they've confirmed Planetos is a globe but it would be interesting to see it done somewhere else.
If we ever do find out about these lands we are all probaby in for a severe dissapointment in terms of there being very little magic and monsters.
I so want to know about Ulthos!!
Carcosa and Yellow Emperor(king), someone has read their Chambers... GRRM never ceases to surprise me. Because of the lovecraftian references scattered across the Far East of Essos, I doubt we’ll ever get any more intricate details or complex storylines originating from there, as that would defeat the point in the references.
There can be many TV📺 series and movies from Eastern Essos alone.
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Just noticing that in the theme opening to the tv series, Vaes Dothrak is in a drastically different location. Anyone know if this was intentional? Or if GRRM approved?
The show uses an old version of the map because it came out before GRRM finalized the geography in the Lands of Ice and Fire. But now they have to keep using the old one to be consistent. But as far as book canon is concerned, the one in these vids is correct.
damn Awesome as Ever. how i wish a targ or someone from valyria flew to Alo these lands they are awesome
Nice Videos! is this information all from the books? because i have read them but don't recall a lot of the stuff you talk about.
Its from another book that explains everything called 'The World Of Ice & Fire'.
I hope they make more shows about game of thrones universe for us fans, I wanna see the grey waste, asshai, stygia and the thousand isles on screen and know more about ti
Could you do mass effect history and elder scrolls history
Why didn’t you mention Melissandre of Asshai?
i was drinking and i spit in laughter all over my keyboard when you said said "99 percent of the men dont meet the requirements to breed with the warrior women " .. now i have pepsi all over my computer
What's east of Essos? A land called Essos Por Aya Bien Lejos.
The way the long night began in both the unmapped land in the far east of essos and the unmapped far north of westeros makes me feel like they connect at some point not yet discovered.
I loved your vidz
In the context of that world, describing the East as flipping crazy is analogous to real world Orientalism, so its mostly just tall tales. But if that stuff is true then dammit I'd love to read a story set over there!
Well dragons white walkers zombies Giants and the children of the Forrest exist