Forsen is the worst poe player, he needs to go back to the other crap he plays and leave poe to real gamers. Dogs barking is poe's fault in his mind......
@@zululvivon2463 look guys we found forsens simp. pathetic when you try and be toxic and simp for a terrible gamer. just makes you look really pathetic. go back to your simp hole.
@@Babachaw I love dying to a boss because it's my first time seeing the mechanic, and loosing my level 70 character. I don't see a shred of fun in the face of the people that die in hardcore, only anger. Why would anyone torture themselves in hardcore before properly learning the game and enemy mechanics in softcore is beyond me, but I'm a normal and sane person, so what do I know.
this video made me realise that i was much more the carefull type, im also in hardcore, nearly all the time i had double if not triple the HP, are they trying to rush or is it considered normal pace ?
The problem here is the people who were playing path of exile one on hard-core thought that they could just join path of exile two and just do a hard-core run and fight the whole game blind they may have played previews or betas, but as we all know that changes before the early release are to be expected. How do you expect to fight a boss where at one point you have to dodge or you’re gonna wipe and not knowning that before beforehand of course you’re gonna wipe these people need to play the whole game on softcore to begin with and then try making a hard-core run afterwards when they understood every single battle
@@Raishondo Wrong, it's more dark souls that is poe1. You NEED to build up resistances to whatever element the boss uses, know which attacks to dodge and which you can get greedy and face tank, know the tells of the boss to know when to dodge, and which direction, need to know when there are safe windows to attack. People are saying melee is hard, but it's because they don't wait for an appropriate time to attack. Is diablo-like brainrot, this is an action game now, not an action RPG. I've never, ever been one shotted because I have a bunch of rings and charms in my inventory and switch them depending on the boss. If you die, it's entirely your fault. You are expected to die a couple of times and learn from that, you HAVE to engage with the bosses, be it preparing before hand, or knowing how to dodge their attacks and counter attack. You know, like in dark souls.
Yeah, all of these people screeching about difficulty and calling the game trash meanwhile in like 30 to 60 days, we are going to see people literally God mowing every single act. People expecting to go into bosses where GGG clearly said they wanted to make them more mechanic focused where you actually have to know the fightsand people complained beforehand about the acts being too easy in POE one, are now complaining they got what they wanted
A lot of input-tracking casts that are clearly designed to hinder ranged characters will instalock onto melee players when they dodgeroll to the bosses face for damage window. Jamanra's spear throw in first phase is the main one that comes to mind, you must wait for them to finish the cast before getting in their face. Otherwise fights feel very fluid.
IIRC enemies have in-build attacks to off-screen players if they go too far don't remember being off-screened this much in PoE1 even on character with wet paper defences
The fun in HC is not the dead. The fun vomes from the many moments when u dont die and feel the adrenalin and heartbeat. These feelings you can have only in HC-Games :-)
Wait so Hardcore in PoE is like.. you dont lose your character, but instead just get opted out of Harcore and your character turns into a regular softcore character?
I'll never understand why ppl play hardcore when there is a very real, very high possibility of losing your character to lag, whether on the players end or the server's.
HC is so much more fun than standard. All of a sudden every single little stat matters. You don't just roll over everything like a mindless tornado. You check every item that drops, you explore every part of every region, because you have to move slow. And you spend much more time back home tuning your gear which is what I enjoy the most. And of course, you have to be methodical with every boss encounter. You can't just jump in and see how it goes. If the boss does a lot of fire damage, you need to find some fire res rings, boots, gloves for the encounter. But it comes with a heavy price. However without that heavy price, all these things would become unnecessary and in fact impractical.
Because the devs idea of a "defense" update was to reduce gear investment threshold to reach the same maximums. I.e. you still die and the amount of HARD CAPPED defenses is ridiculous, STILL requiring the "niche layers" that the top end players used to not get level soft-locked which spurred the necessity of the update. You can have 15K armour in PoE one and still get "how did I die"-ed by a phys mob BELOW your level. VERY EASILY in fact if you're in a map. Part of the old spellcaster meta was because there's extra layers of player delete buttons for monsters to use at melee distance. There were literally base mobs that had attacks in the 10k base damage range and at the base hard cap you're still taking 2.5k of that damage before "niche defense layers". Meaning the devs have learned nothing about how to "slow down the game" because the best defense is everything is either dead or especially mitigated in some manner. TLDR: "new game" same old bullshit.
You have to be crazy to play Hardcore in a buggy early access that crashes all the time. Your just gonna die from a DC or something out of your control.
Pouse does work and it works well. When it lags and game "frezzes" thats the time to logout, not the time to wait for what will happen next like some nuub.
i think people are dumb for complaining on a hardcore death when they havnt even played through the game on normal yet. Hardcore is for the people who already know what to expect from the game.
ppl playing hardcore in a unfinish game witch doesn't include hardcore at the moment and then rage like big fat baby cause they die are absolute peak of stupidity , if you have to download a third party thing to play hardcore its because your not suppose to at the moment XD
The dude is a legend, responsible for some of the most crazy builds in PoE1 and super difficult content runs... He was raging because of inconsistent behaviour of Leap Slam ability. He later explained he tried to jump away (targeting bottom of the screen) but the ability randomly decided to target the monster instead so he jump directly into its attack... You can check in slow-mo (mouse position vs where his jump landed).
...sigh, the devs learned nothing about making the player wipe attacks either have a tell or specific condition to wind up. If it isn't already in the game expect sirus off screen "die" beams within the first few expansion leagues. Also the game isn't even fully out yet and melee builds are already dunked on by any boss (and probably champion mob) that survives longer than two seconds.
Watch alkaiser and tell again melee build are that bad. They are in a fine spot, clearly more slow, but still okay. There is just not melee build that can run fast maps for the moments, but yes we have half of the classes its an EA, be patient
I dies 3 times in the tutorial. Those freakin creatures that spit surrounded me more than once and was instant death lol. If I was playing hardcore I would have lost more than I already was.
they slow tho, those spit things come back later on in the game too. I wait for them tospit dodge it then attack, wait for spit attack again. those shits didnt kill me in tutorial but have been annoying me throughout a few zones XD
@ Yeah one time they got me as they were slightly off screen and I was attacking another mob and all of a sudden the spit started flying and I was not prepared lol
Watching Diablo 4 hardcore deaths is funny because the game is easy and you can easily survive. PoE2 hardcore deaths are lame because you are set up to lose one way or another, pretty much ALL BOSSES have the same 1 shot mechanics that is mandatory to time a dodge and people doing HC there are just comparable to poor souls smashing their heads repeatedly against a wall. It's pretty depressing to see, actually.
See how most of the deaths are warriors? Literally the worst class in the game. You cant play this shitty class that feels completely wrong in the early game. The game is already quite challenging for hardcore players from the beginning and mobs hit hard, even on auto attacks. But then u play a class that feels like it was designed by a 12 year old DEI hire that is shit in every aspect of the early game, which makes no sense. Most of the other classes destroy like crazy in early game.
Newsflash the streamers are bad at the game when they aren't metacucking. Im playing warrior, in act 3 atm, have died single digit times and campaign has been a joke. Nothing can hurt me and i blow up most packs instantly
@@germanrud9904 thanks for answering to a post with 2 arguments that have nothing to do what people complain about, the class. Typisch deutscher Lappen.
Wait what?😂 u mean the class that alk took to endgame on hardcore and one shot every boss so they had to nerf it first? It was the meta build before anyclass 🤡🤭
3:35
The ol Classic "I can't see because the dog is barking" Excuse
Good one Mr. Fors
One of the most amazing things in this game is going in blind, seeing a boss for the first time and discovering how its moves work.
You forgot dying in the process lmao
Forsen: "Easy for the God gamer"
Also Forsen: *dies to tutorial boss*
Forsen is the worst poe player, he needs to go back to the other crap he plays and leave poe to real gamers. Dogs barking is poe's fault in his mind......
@@roamin9871 "real gamers" you're such a fucking loser lmao
@@roamin9871still better than you and all other SC players sadly
@@zululvivon2463 look guys we found forsens simp. pathetic when you try and be toxic and simp for a terrible gamer. just makes you look really pathetic. go back to your simp hole.
@@zululvivon2463 think what you want, but at least SC players dont try to find scapegoats for their own deaths :p
Why? I just don’t get why anyone would hardcore a game that’s already built to kill you multiple times before you learn the fight.
Because it is fun to challenge yourself even if the challenge seems impossible:)
@@Babachawgo sekiro then more challenging sir or darksoul lden ring😂😂😂
Some people is just straight up Masoschists.
@@Babachaw I love dying to a boss because it's my first time seeing the mechanic, and loosing my level 70 character. I don't see a shred of fun in the face of the people that die in hardcore, only anger. Why would anyone torture themselves in hardcore before properly learning the game and enemy mechanics in softcore is beyond me, but I'm a normal and sane person, so what do I know.
If you die in hardcore your character just becomes a normal one. So literally no reason to not play hardcore.
"I can't see because the dog is barking" is the best thing i have ever heard someone say
Because the fucking dog is ...barking! I can't see - that cracked me up
The best content all year
hahaha Those streamers sure do love that esc button xD
Logout macro reflex
logout macro, which is not in the game so they have to actually play the game
The amount of one shot kill mechanics in this game, I feel bad for HC SSF gamers.
this video made me realise that i was much more the carefull type, im also in hardcore, nearly all the time i had double if not triple the HP, are they trying to rush or is it considered normal pace ?
I love how brutal the game is. It really makes these HC clips that much more meaningful and impactful.
Just wondering if hardcore char is gone..does the equipment and gems are also gone?
it will transfer to normal mod
@Crazy1Apple1 oooh okee..nice
what happen at 2:28? i got same problem, health is still there but insta die
not die, he lose all honor points needed to finish that trial
honor system, if 0 = insta lose. if you are playing warrior it's better to level a bit before trying it
The problem here is the people who were playing path of exile one on hard-core thought that they could just join path of exile two and just do a hard-core run and fight the whole game blind they may have played previews or betas, but as we all know that changes before the early release are to be expected.
How do you expect to fight a boss where at one point you have to dodge or you’re gonna wipe and not knowning that before beforehand of course you’re gonna wipe these people need to play the whole game on softcore to begin with and then try making a hard-core run afterwards when they understood every single battle
That's what happens when you have years of brainrot gameplay that is poe1
What we're seeing here are poe1 players getting exposed as 🤡 lmao
The problem is some of these bosses hit way too hard in my opinion. Make one small mistake and you're instantly killed, this isn't dark souls.
@@firstnamelastname1566 you say that but these ppl are still on the top of the ladder
@@Raishondo Wrong, it's more dark souls that is poe1. You NEED to build up resistances to whatever element the boss uses, know which attacks to dodge and which you can get greedy and face tank, know the tells of the boss to know when to dodge, and which direction, need to know when there are safe windows to attack. People are saying melee is hard, but it's because they don't wait for an appropriate time to attack.
Is diablo-like brainrot, this is an action game now, not an action RPG. I've never, ever been one shotted because I have a bunch of rings and charms in my inventory and switch them depending on the boss. If you die, it's entirely your fault. You are expected to die a couple of times and learn from that, you HAVE to engage with the bosses, be it preparing before hand, or knowing how to dodge their attacks and counter attack. You know, like in dark souls.
Yeah, all of these people screeching about difficulty and calling the game trash meanwhile in like 30 to 60 days, we are going to see people literally God mowing every single act. People expecting to go into bosses where GGG clearly said they wanted to make them more mechanic focused where you actually have to know the fightsand people complained beforehand about the acts being too easy in POE one, are now complaining they got what they wanted
I haven't gotten to high levels yet, but good to see Diablo's problem of mobs insta killing you is in this game too
7:00 that passive tree is dogshit. Bro wasted like 40 points on attributes only 😂
A lot of input-tracking casts that are clearly designed to hinder ranged characters will instalock onto melee players when they dodgeroll to the bosses face for damage window. Jamanra's spear throw in first phase is the main one that comes to mind, you must wait for them to finish the cast before getting in their face. Otherwise fights feel very fluid.
How can some people play bosses with the overlay map?
IIRC enemies have in-build attacks to off-screen players if they go too far
don't remember being off-screened this much in PoE1 even on character with wet paper defences
Ziz deserves every bit of it
'START GAS'
my grandpa having 1945 flashbacks: N I C E
LIGHT THE OVEN!!!
Where are the heals where are the heals where are the heals where are the heals
The fun in HC is not the dead. The fun vomes from the many moments when u dont die and feel the adrenalin and heartbeat. These feelings you can have only in HC-Games :-)
Wait so Hardcore in PoE is like.. you dont lose your character, but instead just get opted out of Harcore and your character turns into a regular softcore character?
Yes
Yep
Pretty awesome
" i can't see because the fucking dog is barking" 😂
everytime I see zizzaran he is straight up mouth breathing LMAO
i cant see my dog is barking lol
idk how people play HC, i get one shot sooo much
11:48 *me on the toilet after eating chipotle*
Silverfist has to be the easiest boss if you just stay close to him.
"wont die from a lag spike" yea ok died in ultimatium for my 5n6 ascendancy bc of a lag spike
This would be like beating Elden ring with zero deaths on week 1. Hardcore not for me
there is a pattern in this video:
DON'T paly MELEE
play RANGED
Its not D4, boys. Cant just steamroll the game. 🤣😂 You have to actually strategize.
Steamrolling is literally what you have to do to survive.
It's when you try to facetank that PoE kills you.
haha forsen dying before lvl 7 with 5 characters
that first guy is a verry happy guy
don never stops grinding that paper, damn
just a kid who loves his games 🤷♂️
I'll never understand why ppl play hardcore when there is a very real, very high possibility of losing your character to lag, whether on the players end or the server's.
Zalar it's best to stack right on the boss. Many bosses will have swipes and punish you more if you try kite them or stay too far back.
Weird, for me it does pause whenever my game freezes.
It's just torturous to play this on hardcore. These dudes' mental health doesn't seem like it's a good idea.
HC is so much more fun than standard. All of a sudden every single little stat matters. You don't just roll over everything like a mindless tornado. You check every item that drops, you explore every part of every region, because you have to move slow. And you spend much more time back home tuning your gear which is what I enjoy the most. And of course, you have to be methodical with every boss encounter. You can't just jump in and see how it goes. If the boss does a lot of fire damage, you need to find some fire res rings, boots, gloves for the encounter.
But it comes with a heavy price. However without that heavy price, all these things would become unnecessary and in fact impractical.
If you play minions you dont play at all PoE 2. They have to adjust the balance, actually only Mark and Jonathan are having real fun.
5:08 Easy Freddy Mercury, easy....Lol
Why they're dying if they're melee?
Because the devs idea of a "defense" update was to reduce gear investment threshold to reach the same maximums.
I.e. you still die and the amount of HARD CAPPED defenses is ridiculous, STILL requiring the "niche layers" that the top end players used to not get level soft-locked which spurred the necessity of the update.
You can have 15K armour in PoE one and still get "how did I die"-ed by a phys mob BELOW your level. VERY EASILY in fact if you're in a map.
Part of the old spellcaster meta was because there's extra layers of player delete buttons for monsters to use at melee distance.
There were literally base mobs that had attacks in the 10k base damage range and at the base hard cap you're still taking 2.5k of that damage before "niche defense layers". Meaning the devs have learned nothing about how to "slow down the game" because the best defense is everything is either dead or especially mitigated in some manner.
TLDR: "new game" same old bullshit.
Poison cloud+firewall was nerfed lmao
thank god
What about that Rain of arrows?
@gnzlpico it will be knowing ggg every dun build gets the nerf bat they even nerfed raging spirits
@@gnzlpico Nerfed as well vs large monsters like that boss
Ah it's good to see Hardcore players actually play the game without logout macro.
got to love a game shows if streamers not using a copy past build that is broken it shows there no better then most gamers lol
who was 5th on the leaderboard, Imagin sitting there and you just go from 5 to 1 lol
You have to be crazy to play Hardcore in a buggy early access that crashes all the time. Your just gonna die from a DC or something out of your control.
Pouse does work and it works well. When it lags and game "frezzes" thats the time to logout, not the time to wait for what will happen next like some nuub.
Where's Dom?
I'm here! How's it going?
@@TopMMOPlays Need your voiceover! Adds all the personality to the channel. Keep up the great work!
@@Chrobar Appreciate you bro! I was crunching to get this out but definitely planning on adding commentary to the next ones. ❤
The quin one don't count they was reseting the servers
7. 40. 6 act for 11 hours?
God these graphics are so sick
RaizQT should git Fokin GUD
TH-cam asked me if I wanted to translate this. Us brits get done so dirty 😭
@@TopMMOPlays HEHEHEHAHAHAHAHHHEHE LOL LMAO
ziz died: not gonna say anything bad.
The ground poison is too common and pretty stupid, didnt diablo4 have the same issue at launch they changed later.
Well they choose their own destiny.
0:21 하...저거 당해봤지....
결전시련에서 언덕위로 올라가 꼬리쪽으로 가니까 샷건당해 죽음...
как можно на сумонере вообще откиснуть, поймать атаку от которой не увернёться только лузер, куда он на ХК полез?:)
Best video
Everyone knows random oneshots make for the best games lol
Yea....this game would be hell on hardcore..
i think people are dumb for complaining on a hardcore death when they havnt even played through the game on normal yet. Hardcore is for the people who already know what to expect from the game.
By the way those AoEs are a real problem for monk, at least at low lvls.
Or your not hardcore enough!?
11:02 who is this? He looks like jackscepticeye and penquinz0 have a baby. No disrespect 😂
Alkaizerx,he is old arpg streamer he was doing like 1 shots builds on older diablo games aswell,he is actually like a robot lol.
He is also probably one of the best ARPG players out there.
I never died because of Poison...
Didnt knew Forses was this bad xD
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Quin is literally the biggest loser in streaming. I've never seen anyone cry as hard as he does, regardless of what game he plays.
He farms the drama. Went as far as to stage his dc.
I didn't sign on to play Eldon Ring Diablo XD
Feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive
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ppl playing hardcore in a unfinish game witch doesn't include hardcore at the moment and then rage like big fat baby cause they die are absolute peak of stupidity , if you have to download a third party thing to play hardcore its because your not suppose to at the moment XD
Hmmm funny how a lot of these are warrior players 🤔
oh wow so many EFT Players on POE2 hype Train wha happend EFT Died ?
Бля это у меня проблемы с восприятием какие-то, или Forsen это англоязычный Папич?
LMAO
Nice
forsan so bad died at level 1 LULE
As a infernalist minion God i can tell u raizqt dmg was very very bad
Anyone on console get disconnected from the game when there controller dies? Lol
That dude at 2:26 is such a noob L M A O
The dude is a legend, responsible for some of the most crazy builds in PoE1 and super difficult content runs... He was raging because of inconsistent behaviour of Leap Slam ability. He later explained he tried to jump away (targeting bottom of the screen) but the ability randomly decided to target the monster instead so he jump directly into its attack... You can check in slow-mo (mouse position vs where his jump landed).
All I can say is FUCKIN POISON!!
I can't see because the dog is barking!
I know people who are better at doctoring their mistakes or failures completely drunk😂
Quin is the biggest regard ive ever seen on youtube. Why do you people lile him so much
Hardcore is NOT worth it
That's the thrill of it! -Dom
@TopMMOPlays and then get one shot from that gaaadamn monkey? Hell nah
if your character just then goes to normal its not really a loss
...sigh, the devs learned nothing about making the player wipe attacks either have a tell or specific condition to wind up.
If it isn't already in the game expect sirus off screen "die" beams within the first few expansion leagues.
Also the game isn't even fully out yet and melee builds are already dunked on by any boss (and probably champion mob) that survives longer than two seconds.
Watch alkaiser and tell again melee build are that bad. They are in a fine spot, clearly more slow, but still okay. There is just not melee build that can run fast maps for the moments, but yes we have half of the classes its an EA, be patient
Anyone playing hardcore while this game is still in early access is a fool.
I dies 3 times in the tutorial. Those freakin creatures that spit surrounded me more than once and was instant death lol. If I was playing hardcore I would have lost more than I already was.
they slow tho, those spit things come back later on in the game too. I wait for them tospit dodge it then attack, wait for spit attack again.
those shits didnt kill me in tutorial but have been annoying me throughout a few zones XD
@ Yeah one time they got me as they were slightly off screen and I was attacking another mob and all of a sudden the spit started flying and I was not prepared lol
lol the devs trolled everyone
When ppl play terribly then scream at the game saying it's trash makes me lol. Your gameplay was trash bud 😉
1st world problems ....smh.
I don't think any of this is funny unless you like to watch people lose their shit.
That's basically the jist of hardcore fails, yeah
Top MMO Plays, yet shows some of the dumbest clips?
If you want actually good players, then you'll not follow half of these
Watching Diablo 4 hardcore deaths is funny because the game is easy and you can easily survive. PoE2 hardcore deaths are lame because you are set up to lose one way or another, pretty much ALL BOSSES have the same 1 shot mechanics that is mandatory to time a dodge and people doing HC there are just comparable to poor souls smashing their heads repeatedly against a wall. It's pretty depressing to see, actually.
See how most of the deaths are warriors? Literally the worst class in the game. You cant play this shitty class that feels completely wrong in the early game. The game is already quite challenging for hardcore players from the beginning and mobs hit hard, even on auto attacks. But then u play a class that feels like it was designed by a 12 year old DEI hire that is shit in every aspect of the early game, which makes no sense. Most of the other classes destroy like crazy in early game.
Newsflash the streamers are bad at the game when they aren't metacucking. Im playing warrior, in act 3 atm, have died single digit times and campaign has been a joke. Nothing can hurt me and i blow up most packs instantly
@@germanrud9904 thanks for answering to a post with 2 arguments that have nothing to do what people complain about, the class. Typisch deutscher Lappen.
Warrior is amazing . Git gud scrub .
Wait what?😂 u mean the class that alk took to endgame on hardcore and one shot every boss so they had to nerf it first? It was the meta build before anyclass 🤡🤭
Asmon did fine and hes not the greatest gamer lol