I actually completely agree with you on the Zoro point. I remember going in hoping that they would be able to capture his goofier and more laid back side but was really disappointed when we didn’t get that. Which is a shame because Zoro is my favorite character in OP.
Though I like LA Zoro aka a badass who’s a dumbass and genuinely believes in that, it’s no where near the original Zoro The closest we get is when he makes fun of Nami after Sanji flirts with her, and him arguing with Sanji after defeating Arlong, and we need MORE of these
My problem with the show is how they handle Usopp and Sanji in their respective arcs, Usopp spends most of his arc hiding in a closet and they remove Sanji's friendship with Gine, that and i think Nami is too deadpan in this show, deadpan works for Zoro but not Nami
From someone who discovered the wonderful world of One Piece from the live action, i really appreciate your insight as a fan of the original manga/anime.
What made the live action so good was that it wasn't afraid to be weird and embrace all the things that made One Piece so good. Even if some things aren't as good as others, it's still really good. In fact, people are now getting into the anime because of it, and I just love that so much! I watched it with my little brother. He didn’t like the anime, but after watching it with him, he not only rewatched the entirety of East Blue, but he's now on Skypiea and he's a massive fan thanks to the live action.
100% agree, I love how much the live action has rejuvenated love for One Piece, both within existing fans and newcomers to the series. It's also clearly had impacts outside of its own show, the new remake by WIT Studio is clearly being funded by Netflix because they want a more accessible anime companion for the live action series. Really hard to complain with what Netflix has been doing for the franchise overall.
@nathandanczak7822 As a massive One Piece fan, I can actually understand why you think it's okay. Even though it is the single most successful shounen live-action, it was heavily restricted when it came to telling the story in a way that was not only good but also within their budget and the time they were given. A lot was cut and altered due to both time and budget constraints. So unfortunately, even though the live-action was good and a massive success, it could never truly be as good as it could have been if Netflix gave them just a little more time and money. I mean, they didn't even get to the end of the East Blue saga, which was planned, and dragon scenes were filmed but had to be cut due to time and budget restraints. But overall, the series is a good 6-8/10, which is far better than some other live actions, even if they were short on both time and money.
I have a real bone to pick with the pacing of that "help me" scene Cuz like, the villagers haven't even LEFT to go and fight Arlong yet. And Nami's already falling to her knees in despair. The whole reason that scene hits, at least for me, is that for Nami, its all over, The Money is gone, Nojiko has been fucking SHOT, and the whole village has gone to go and fight Arlong knowing that they'll all die. But in the live action, she literally just got robbed. and the village hated her legit this whole time. She COULD just go and get more money. Its so so weird!
I think it's an understatement she got robbed. I get a lot of the criticisms of the OPLA, I also agree that the villagers should have gotten more attention, but sadly Netflix cut down the episode from 10 to 8. Now with Nami, I cried because it was all not worth it anymore. All those years where the people she tried to save hated her. She keeps trying to say to themselves, "it will all be worth it" the money being taken, basically means all of her hard work was gone. It was not worth it. It was a waste of time.
@@FanTalks1 yea i can understand what you mean but it honestly just isn't that impactful as the original scene. Everyone is literally supporting Nami and that realization along with them not only going to fight arlong, but letting her know it isnt her fault and they all love and care about her and they're putting their lives on the line for her out of respect for all the hard work shes put in is what truly surrounds that impactful moment of Nami breaking down knowing all is hopeless
What they did with adding Garp is my biggest problem. It took time out from important plotlines in East Blue and ruined a later reveal with Garp which should've happened in Water 7 & hit much, much more there. Also, they completely excluded Hachi...
I never saw One Piece before I saw the Netflix show, and I still agree with you on quite a few points. Like how Usopp never felt like he got any focus, or how inane the twist with Garp testing Luffy was, and just how rushed everything feels.
This was actually a really solid video with a lot of great points that articulated some of my problems with the series as well, even though I didn’t watch much of the original One Piece. It's a shame this video didn't get more attention 😑
Steven Maeda has actually said that they REALLY wanted to include Hachi, they even had a really cool fight scene for him planned out but he had to be cut due to budgetary limitations, it's a shame but it is understandable.
I think the live action was very well made, though I do have some gripes with the cut content, but I think they consolidated it well enough. Though I do wish it was like 4 episodes longer at least so there was a bit more fleshing out certain areas. I don't want the crazy amount of fluff the anime has, but I also don't want it to be rushed like the live action. There needs to be a middle ground, and hopefully they resolve this with season 2.
hopefully they at least get 10, that was what they originally had for season 1 but netflix made them shorten to 8 which meant they couldnt get to lougetown
actually u can easily fit loguetown -> alabasta in 10 episodes - 1 loguetown, 2 rivers mounanin (laboom), 3 whiskey peak (vivi), 4-5 drum island (chopper arc) , 6 -10 alabasta, 5 episodes for alabasta seems to much if u think that arlong arc was 1 and a half episode (and we can asume that the last episode of S2 (at least the half episode) is a setup for more adventures to come in future
in a podcast showrunner matt owens talked about how he had to leave production for the sagafta strikes and didnt even know how much would be cut, as he filmed for 10 episodes. appearantly they DID film usopp scenes and more characterization for sanji, but they never made it to the final cut.
Diehard OP fan and I agree with the title, though I will say the final episode is absolute peak anime to live action, western or not. It's done what I believe all adaptions should strive for and what every fan of an adapted IP should have the privilege of experiencing at least once. That last episode, man. Lmao. To me, it really captured some of that emotion of OP that most fans may consider exclusive to it
About Coby's introduction: I just think they didn't want to call a woman fat and ugly in the show. Stuff like that doesn't really fly today. They should have had him stand up for himself in another way, instead of just not doing anything at all.
It wasn’t Koby’s time to stand up for himself. His role was extended to be throughout the season of this show. His arc was stretched until the end of the season, where he stands up to Garp and finally says “No”. Instead of meeting a random guy for 5 minutes, then completely turning around and being brave after spending potentially years as a coward. I feel some audiences may see that as a few sudden / rushed development for live action series’ standards. This is a live action show that’s based on an anime, but it wasn’t meant to be a direct copy of the anime. It’s a different interpretation.
@@GuyWithNoNickName Yet that destroys cobys character and Garps, and Mihawks, and Helmmeppo's, and Morgan, and Alvida, and most importantly Luffy's. Sorry but Netflix shill your time in the sun is gone SMILE group isnt getting paid to bot anymore.
@@snintendogno it doesnt lol. Mihawk still acts on his own giving a F U to garp, helpmeppo if anything has better character in LA, Morgan is a side character who was much cooler in LA fighting both luffy and zoro unlike in anime where he got cooked easily. And Alvida played her part(I didnt like that they were scared to call her fat etc but I dont mind coz the actress is actually beautiful either way). More importantly it elevates Coby's character. Like the other guy said, it makes no sense for Coby to standup to Alvida after 5-10 mins of talk with this random stranger. It doesnt make sense in the anime or even the manga. Which is probably why ODA the goat himself agreed to this changed script. Think about it from ODA's perspective, he surely knows more about Coby and his plans for this character in future than any one of us.
@@blasttrashI think an aspect y’all r forgetting is that luffy is supposed to be the “warrior of liberation”. Sure it’s unrealistic to have a character grow balls after being a coward his whole life but that’s the amazing thing about luffy. He does things like that on a daily basis. His very presence causes people to want to break their shackles and achieve their dreams. That aspect was lost in the LA. He seems a lot more like a dumb pirate who stumbles upon success rather than a man who inspires the world around him just by existing.
Honestly, I'm really glad that someone pointed out a lot of the flaws. Everyone or at least most people completely glaze the show completely refusing to hear any critique on the show which in my opinion is just delusional. I love one-piece and some of the stuff they did in the live action yea it was good but there was quite a lot of stuff that honestly didn't sit well with me either which you happened to highlight such as when Luffy ate the gum gum fruit like why did he randomly go over to open the box, you know? And Zoro's character does lack a lot of color and is just set on a dull atmospheric screenplay, not even including how he randomly second episode is like "I didn't have anywhere to go, but Luffy changed that,'" when he literally just met brodie like not even 24 hours ago. I'm glad you posted this video because soon as I watched the show, I immediately came to TH-cam to find someone who would also highlight these points which shocked me when I found barely any critics until I came here. Besides that, your video is very well explained which I greatly appreciate, thank you lol
I think people like it because of the people involved and compared to other netflix adaptations it's much better than anything else although it don't take much to improve from what they had to begin with.
I don't know how I miss your OPLA review videos from my radar. Even though I'm ok with Live Action, I totally agreed with all of your points. You understand the source material very well. I really want to see your OPLA season 2 review when it come out. I just subbed now and hope I won't miss your OPLA season 2 review video next time.
It's not gonna be for everyone but the point is it captured the spirit of the original enough to please the fanbase. Which was all we ever really wanted.
(Not) fun fact : Even Oda himself didn’t like the addition of Garp, but one of the showrunner ( Steve Maeda (?) ) “persuaded” him to add it in Though I like LA Garp ( never expected to see Garp and Zeff chowing down beef, and talking about the new generations ), it could lead to so many disasters, like many adaptations have done and got killed ( Like the Witcher from Netflix ), the writing team did a good job to minimize the damage ( Not to say it’s 100% successful) Luckily he’s stepping down as showrunner
We have the same sentiments on most things especially Garp and how Kuro was the best villain throughout the series but I liked it. I also agree on how the environment was brought into life and can't wait for what they do for Alabasta
"It's almost as if there was a time limit"... yes... that's how the medium of live action functions. That's one of the give and takes of doing live action to begin with. They had an 8 episode deal to get through the first season and hopefully not get the show canceled right away in the process and Oda was masterful enough to pull this off. If you wanted a beat for beat retelling of the manga or anime then why even do it in the first place? We already have those. Live action is always going to present strange background elements that add or even take from the source material. The goal is at the end of the day to be able to tell the story with the same moral or heart as the original. That's what makes the live action the third prong of One Piece. Manga, Anime, and Live Action. Three mediums that must deliver the story in radically different ways. From what I hear they've given the team more episodes per season because they've earned some trust so maybe things don't have to feel as rushed. But the first season could not have been any other way and functioned. Every decision was made with Oda's approval. I'd trust that he'd understand how to tell his story.
Nobody cares what Oda says. Not everything he creates is perfect, no matter how much I love One Piece. The manga and the anime are literally the same, with maybe slight differences so I don't understand this criticism. If you couldn't tell a genuine One Piece story then don't do it at all or at least not try to blow past so much content in a few time. They also didn't have to reach the Arlong Park Arc, they really could've went to Baratie and end it there.
@@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw "Nobody cares what Oda says"... Oda has final say on everything that happens on the live action show. If anime and manga are the same... if while you're reading manga the pictures are moving and you're hearing voices in your head you might want to seek professional help. But for the rest of the world no... no manga and anime are not the same, they are different mediums for storytelling. If you can't understand that then let's just all be glad that you have no control over the production of the show. If you did it would be trash.
@@MrSerious1 i didn't think I needed to explain one is animated and one is not. I thought that was obvious and didn't need to be stated, but I can see you're not very smart and can't understand anything unless its spelled out for you. Obviously they're "different", but the story literally plays out the exact same as the manga, unlike the live action. So you acting like the anime is majorly different then the manga just because its animated is straight oonga bunga beavior. You have to be 12, because there is just no way you even said that and tried to use that as a valid point. That was actually so stupid, I genuinely cannot believe you typed that with confidence. Oh my lord you're actually dumb for that. Also Oda literally draws adults drooling over children. Stop glazing the man and everything he does, and come up with your own opinions.
I didn't like luffy that much actually, he wasn't bad but I think he was way to... smart? He was so worried about so much stuff, overthinking things, I get that he's a bit of a more emotional version but I liked him being so careless, being just a good guy and seeing that in his crew, I liked that he didn't tell ANYONE that he was a good pirate, "That's up to you to decide" has always been his modus operandi, I liked that after the fight with mihawk he tried fighting and I LOVED that during the battle at baratie zeff told sanji to watch carefully so he could realize what kind of person luffy was, he didn't told no one "I'm a different kind of pirate" but PROVED that he was just by being that way, in Buggy's arc no one knew what they did, only the mayor and I really loved him telling the villagers that he was the only one allowed to curse on them because they're not doing it for the fame or to be hero's, they're doing it because it's the right thing and no one need to know. The live action was really good and I will always be grateful that it brought so many people to watch the anime but it lacked so much that I would love it to have more people actually giving the anime/manga a try, fortunately there's the new anime coming, hope that one's better and that it bring so much more people to the community
I agree with most of your points, and I'm genuinely GLAD that someone finally brings those flaws that everyone seems not to care about. Every single members of the crew are either out of character (Luffy, Zoro, Nami) or have 3 seconds of screentime (Usopp, Sanji). Luffy's character in the first 2-3 episodes was "okay" while having some huge flaws. But then oh man his character got so much worse. They tried so hard making him the good pirate who only does good action and only befriends with angels, in the very first episode he says to Koby something like "Every pirate I know don't kill" or some sh!t like that. BRO. Shanks and his crew litterally KILLED the mountain bandits in the EXACT SAME EPISODE, what they were even trying to do ???? They completly failed Luffy's character. WhenGarp and Zeff were talking about Luffy in Baratie, they were basically talking about MANGA Luffy, there is no way it was LA Luffy. The writters know who Luffy is, but they didn't know how to pull him off in the show. The actual Luffy inspires people and helps them surpassing themselves, this is not LA Luffy, he doesn't inspire anyone. Not even Koby. Not even his own crew. He inspired them because the script wants them to, but not thanks to Luffy. To finish with Luffy, there was something that pissed me off so SO SO MUCH in this show and its that : Luffy was NOT elastic. I'll explain myself. Yes, his arms could stretch. Yes, he has the ability to turn into a baloon etc. But not a single time after that one fighting scene vs Alvida in ep 1, his body tanked his enemy's punches. When he fought Arlong, he FELT those punches, and it's not even because of the sea water, because even in the map room he was hurt by Arlong's FISTS. They couldn't even understand the most BASIC point of his character. Now Zoro. I'm happy for Zoro fans cause he had 3 character arcs in this show : Romance Dawn, Syrup and Baratie. The peak of Syrup arc was ZORO. CLIMBING. A. GODDAM. WELL. I'm sorry but that was SO A$$. Thye couldn't fail more this arc. He litterally stole the show twice and left no crumbs to Usopp and Sanji, they were just some guys who got to meet Luffy and hiw crew, that's all. Their recruitment in the crew made no sense. They didn't have any character arc, they barely stood up against the antagonist of the arc (Baratie had none lol) AND THAT is a hige HUGE problem. The writers thought that an antagonist's unique purpose is to be a powerscalling checkpoint and help the MAIN PROTAGONIST get stronger, but they never questioned themselves about the importance they have to the newly introduced characters, tha protagonist of each arc. Why is Krieg a giant man with a golden armor, weapons covering his entire body and has a big a$$ crew with a gigantic ship ? Because Oda wanted to show us that no matter how physically strong you are, no matter how much you are equiped, the ONLY thing that matters in a fight between two dreamers is guts and power of convictions. Krieg had none of them, that's the reason why he lost against Luffy, the biggest dreamer in the world. That's the reason why Sanji witnessed his defeat and Luffy's victory. And that's because Sanji HAD to see how far these people could go for their dreams that he also saw Zoro fighting Mihawk. He was sticking to the Baratie like a mussel on its rock, and Zeff and the staff had to tear him off of the Baratie so he could pursue his dream. We had none of that in the LA. I have so many other things to say, whether it be about Luffy, Usopp's character, Arlong Park, Garp, Buggy, Nami, Syrup arc, etc, but I unfortunately don't have the time to expand more on that. I was sooo excited to see the LA, I truly believed that they would give us a great show and wouldn't betray their promises. But this show ended to be a big lie and was certainly one of my biggest disapointments
@@dimitripatronas2409 no need to ask me for that lol not only did they completely cut everything that make One Piece so special, but besides of that they have a bunch of zi0nists working on it and plan on adding even more with S2 (jlc 🤢)
@@rubberman3226 of course, but it doesn’t mean you have to write the characters (and the script in general) so poorly, I’m sure that most of the main cast would get their ass beaten by their original version of themselves in the manga, bc Garp is straight up a fasc!st at this point lol and Luffy is the exact opposite of who he actually is
Such a great video. You went really detailed. I really agree with most of the pros and cons. Spot on for an hour straight. I disagree with you on the wigs. Some of the color made it seem more similar to the anime. I thought the wigs worked on some characters. You’re right they looked terrible on others tho.
for me this wasn't The one piece, but A one piece. it was good for what it had, and thats a good thing. they did drop out certain things, but got other things to compensate, and thats fine, because this leaves additional content for those who didn't watch the anime to enjoy, or alternatively extra content for those who didn't watch the live action. sometimes that especially resonated with me was the fact that arlong wasn't just a bad dude and a bully, but an actual terrorist, which wasn't really communicated well in the anime, but was wonderful in the live action. as someone who lives in israel and considering the horrific events of the 7/10/2023, this was actually terrifyingly accurate to how a terrorist mindset is like, and almost felt like im watching some Hamas terrorists talking and not fishmen. excited to see more in the future.
I do hope season 2 goes for 10 episodes. Hopefully, they can learn from their missteps on season 1 and elevate the series higher with the second season
Honestly, I understand why they changed Koby’s introduction in the LA. Although OP is anything but realist and I’m glad they kept its wackiness, in a live action setting people’s personalities at least, must be real and human. Koby barely knew Luffy and couldn’t possibly trust him 100% at that point. They had literally met just 10 minutes ago. I think it would be weird and out of place for him to throw his old ways out the window so abruptly at that point in the story. It was fine in the anime, but for the live action, it was much more satisfying to slowly see him grow and become braver throughout the season, at least imo.
I think the live action is really good - if you are not familiar with the manga. I watched the live action not knowing anything about One Piece, I only knew it was popular manga/anime series. I really enjoyed it and decided to start reading the manga. After catching up to the most recent chapter I decided to rewatch the live action and I have to say, I have many problems with it, similar to the ones you mentioned, mostly with Luffy, Garp and whole Arlong Park. Live action is much less subtle than the manga, but I will still give it like 8/10 for the effort. As far as the manga goes - it became my favorite piece of media I have ever consumed. Give me chapter 1104 already, please!
Koby introduction; 7:49 In the source material, that moment was the end of Koby's first arc, here it's just the beginning, his arc ends in a simmler vain in the finale (admititly undercut with the garps "test"), when he stood up to Garp, he put his dream of being a merian on the line for Luffy, imo that's better than having him put his life on the line by calling alvida fat and ugly, just for Luffy to save him. Mihawk; 35:23 I would agree to some extent that it didn't feel like Zoro gave it his all before he lost, it didn't feel like he was outmatched; it felt like he just got outplayed, which is a meaningful difference. I would say that Mihawk is definitely a sassy, cocky swerdsman. I do agree that the magnificant line feels more like a "good job" rather than the a "YES, Fanstasitc, you understand what a sowerdsman is, and I respect you as such" kind of line it was supposed to be. Luffy Doubting Himself; 36:59 I disagree massively; I think this is a missread. The situation is 'ur crewmember will die, and to stop that from happening is to stop him from following his dream. What will you do?' This isn't out of character; this is his responsibility as a captain and his core values clashing. he doesn't regret not stopping him, he regrets failing his responsibility as a captain, he even says, "I would have done anything to save him, anything but stand in the way of his dream." grete criticism, all around, it was deffenitly rushed in some plases, hopefully that gets better next season
real, plus he just met luffy for just a few minutes, ofc nothings gonna change in koby yet.......just like what you said, realistically putting his liffe on the line by calling alvida fat and ugly is not something a normal person like koby would do.
9:39 You say that Gold Roger's speech was too fast but expect Coby to show development within few mins that we see him? It worked in manga/anime but it might be just be nostalgia for us. Think about it, it makes no sense for Coby to suddenly show such character development to call Alvida a hag just after meeting luffy a stranger for few mins. Coby's character growth in LA makes much more sense which is probably why ODA agreed to this changed script and gave Coby more show time. This is also why Coby's last meeting with luffy where he gives bounty poster hits us that much more. It would be weird if Coby called Alvida a hag in the first episode itself and acted all meek and stuff later on while chasing luffy with Garp. His interactions with Helmeppo, Garp, listening to Mihawk etc adds much more character development for the finale meeting with luffy. If this character development was sped up in the first episode, all these interactions would'nt make sense. Also GOLD Roger's scene was PERFECT. You know why? Its coz its supposed to be a legend/myth. Even in the anime, whenever we get Gold Roger's flashback, its always different. Sometimes its sunny, sometimes its raining etc. It shows that different people are remembering that scene differently. If LA does this like anime, then surely we will get a more detailed flashback sometime in future where they show characters like buggy crying etc during that execution scene. At the end of the day LA is an adaptation of manga, not anime. So a lot of pacing related issues that you had with LA might just be temporal dilation in your brain coz you are used to a different adaptation which is anime. LA's pacing was perfect, it did miss certain things imo but those had nothing to do with pacing but the budget of one more episode etc. Would've been great if Sanji actor was little bit more weak during starvation scene(using CGI of course), also it would've been great if the last piece of bread fell off(that would've shown us that desperation he had), also Nami's interaction with villagers especially the fact that villagers knew about Nami's goals all along(unfortunately this was removed in LA).
@@blasttrash saying they didn’t like it..u didn’t have to watch it u could’ve moved on u writing a novel isn’t gunna change someone’s opinion i thought gol d rogers scene was average as well.
@@kingslayerbella using that logic they could've moved on as well instead of watching the show. Or YOU COULD'VE moved on as well instead of coming and replying under my comment. Sharing opinions is how we show we are passionate about this project. And I gave clear explanations as to why I have that opinion instead of simply saying "Oh I thought that scene was average as well" coz there are many on OPLA sub who would disagree with you and according to your logic, you should just shut up and not have your opinion because thats what you are expecting of me.
I agree with this video for sure, very good points are made and I am not a fan of the live-action myself. Much of One Piece is about metaphorical meanings which are poorly expressed, if not expressed at all in the live-action. Although, I have to say one thing, what you said at 51:32 isn't a valid criticism because the walk to Arlong Park was never even in the manga in the first place. It's only a popular scene among anime-only American/European viewers anyway, it isn't really this "OMG ICONIC YEAHHH!!!" scene in Japan as they primarily read the manga while the west's primary way of consuming the story is through the anime which just ISN'T the real story of One Piece, exactly like the live-action. I never got the hype because I always knew that it was some Toei nonsense where they stalled out the episode as the walk took an unreasonably long amount of time, the dramatic music didn't distract me from that either. I understand the hype of the "Help me" scene, I'm part of that hype, I love it, and that scene is popular not only in Japan but worldwide, as it happened in the manga and has actual plot significance unlike the walk which is a filler "cool factor walk" to stall time, which anime-onlys, because they don't know any better, try to spin around as the scene that "officially made the Straw Hats be what they are!" or some other dumb headcanon. Anime-only scenes just aren't popular worldwide. It's only here in the West, particularly the English-speaking community, that stuff like G-8 gets so much praise to an almost obnoxiously repetitive degree. And I'm pointing all of this out so you can understand where the live-action staff are coming from, from a creative standpoint. What we here in the West deem to be popular, isn't actually popular outside our little bubble, or, to be less sugarcoaty here, echo chamber. I just want to burst that bubble so you can understand and come to terms with the exclusion of anime-only scenes like that. Besides that, the live-action obviously adapts the manga, not the anime. That's why we got Shanks' backstory immediately instead of waiting until after Zoro joins to show it like how the anime did it. The western fandom's beliefs of how the story happened is so rooted in what the anime does that I just don't see eye to eye on them a lot of times because they are ignorant to what the actual story, AKA the manga, is telling us and is trying to convey to us. Sorry if this may have come off as incredibly picky, I just think that criticizing the live-action for not having what another adaptation/interpretation made instead of the original source material, isn't fair. Maybe you didn't know and never read the whole manga from start to finish and you just looked up manga panels for this video? That would at least explain what you said at 51:32, and if so, I can't really blame you at that point because that's how most English-speaking people are, being ignorant to how all the events happened in the manga that is. Despite what I just said, most of this video I agree with! I just wanted to mention my biggest gripe with it because praising all the positive aspects of this video would be redundant, so don't get it twisted, I loved the video!
You definitely made a huge point on every thing you've said but in my own humble opinion (I'm a die hard OP manga fan) OPLA is entirely it's own interpretation of the original work and I would most definitely be watching it as long as it is renewed given that they will stick to the overall concept and feel of THE One Piece by gODA 😆
Great job! Honestly super hard to talk about all my thoughts because there is A LOT to say about various different things. I ended up agreeing on a LOT and glad you spent a lot of hard work get as many thoughts out there as you did. Not much time spent on the show's pretty gross color grading and weirdly distracting camera/cinematography for character's close ups; just a LOT of shots where the depth of field was so narrow. Also I do respect the hell out of how detailed and lived in the set design was (again lighting and overall darkness of interiors - even scenes that were original meant to be during the day being at night - was a big enjoyment harmer). However certain places like Baratie just didn't feel like Baratie. Turning a blindingly bright white tableclooth and silverware restaurant into some seedy night-life restaurant felt odd. Baratie and even Kaya's house felt super anachronistic to how I felt they were interpreted in the anime. Like there's hardly any natural light coming in through the windows unless they're glaringly dramatic beams of god light casting shadows on the walls. I kind of wish we got to see more of the set design and for it to be much less red? More blue? Anyway, wondering what your thoughts were on the early Garp-Luffy lineage reveal since you didn't get to talk too much about that in your Garp section. Again, great vid! Super sad to hear about the 2 episode cut. Did not know about that. Hard to know if that means there was 2 episodes worth of material cut or not. Because the amount of stuff that you could argue felt "missing" does not seem as much as a problem of the weird choices they seemed to be committed to from the get-go (cutting characters and how they messed up Mihawk). Really would love to hear a director's commentary about that one day.
Ur one of the few people I’ve seen criticizing the weird visuals of the series. Most people just gawk at the set design (which is nice) but the color grading and camera angle choices they make are pretty bad a lot of the times. Especially during dialogue scenes. I can tell they’re trying to go for an anime/manga vibe with the editing but the way they went about it didn’t work imo.
Im with you on most of the criticism but I like the live-action, I watched the live-action four 4 times ( 1. original release in Eng, 2. in Japanese, 3. in my country language, 4. With my friends). As a Manga fan for 13 years (my favourite manga ever) I gave it 5.5/10 but as a casual movie watcher, I gave it 7.5/10. Like I say Im only a Manga reader even an Anime eastblue saga I gave it 6.5 compared to manga but 7.5/10 as a casual anime watcher. But what makes me like live-action is the Simplicity. It is just like an old 2010 movie like Avenger 1 where all character is honed on their 1 characteristic. It is a completely different thing compared to the Manga. From this review, I think the problem you have is mostly what people have the problem with Superhero movies. I like Superhero movies because it is a fun time but not a long time. I like this Adaptation because it has the same idea "Fun time, not a long time" but not the source material which is " Fun time for a long time". The only thing that Onepiece's live-action is better than most Superheroes' live-action is that the movie lacks a Thematic message and have more Wholesome/whimsical fantasy. I think if you have the source material in mind, live-action is always gonna be bad compared to the source material. When you say " Un zoro like to do " or " Not Luffy enough to me", it is what I think of it the first time I watch it. But the second time and the third time I watched it, it made me understand the tone of the character better. I keep thinking to myself how to fit " Goffy Zoro" or "Crackhead Luffy moment (which I disappoint that it not existed" in some scenes and realise that it is kinda impossible with the length of the episode. It is easy to list the nitpicked and disappoint ant things that exist in the Og source material but not in LA. Such as I dont like Syrup Village in Live action because I like Usopp Pirate and the Three Kids, I dont like the look of most set designs and a lot of dark lighting scenes compared to manga where 90% is day light, Sanji does not see zero fight, Hachi non-existent, Gen and Nojiko is not focused at all and the village didn't know about Nami make them look like idiot etc. Everything sucks compare to manga but the only thing that didn't suck is without those I mention you won't get the simple form of Onepiece. This live-action film is not an Arc cramp-up into 8 episodes but I think it is a thoughtful way to explain Onepiece concept/world in 8 episodes. Marines have more explanation, Pirate and warlord have more explanation, and the world has more explanation but the character got cut down. In the source material Oda also still experimenting , he reverse engineer most of his character until post-time skip where every character in the crew stick to there own gags. In early one Luffy is the one who got lost everywhere, Sanji is more gentleman and a thug, Zoro smile al the time etc. It hard to describe the audience what your chracter are when he have too many emotion. Onepiece have it Lenght to do that but not the liveaction that why it need Zoro to stick as a " cool sword man who rarely smile " Than " cool sword guy who love smile but always serious looking because his burden and his loyalty character as a first mate/vicecaptian make him not want to smile" that is too complex for 8 episode. I will keep supporting it because I love when people being creative and I like when people adapted series I like in to Live action , game, novel, etc because it fun even if it bad or good, that why headcanon and What if.. exist. However, I dont care, Oda finally made my mom watch his series lol.
Not clickbait, valid points. I like ohara complaining about mihawks boots and ussops sling haha. But I think this show has made life even harder for other live actions
nami is my favorite character in any anime ever and i was so disappointed how they did nami. the actresss is sooooo gorgeous but i didn’t feel the nami vibe :( hopefully it’s better next season
The sad fact is this is a sinking ship destined to fall. The next season won't be out until 2025. Meaning it takes almost a year, maybe 2 to make 1 season. That's not sustainable for a series as long as One Piece, especially in live action when the actors age as time passes. They simply can't keep this going, I give it one more season before it's cancelled, especially if you consider how big the budget will need to get for the more insane seasons later one.
@@PhenomSage Yeah probably not a smart idea to make a live action show where despite 20 years passing the main characters only aged about 2 years in canon.
Not at all. LA zoro is a snarky diva. Zoro rarely cares to argue (unless it’s with sanji) and showers once a week. So why in the live action is he telling nami not to wear black because it’s his color? It was meant to be comedic but Stuff like that just makes zoro seem like a completely different character from the manga. Instead of being the quiet loyal swordsman he’s the edgy snarky hothead.
My problem with Zoro, maybe I'm too used to Zoro's VA both Japanese and English version, is that his voice is just too soft, wished he talks a little Louder. So far even though Luffy has an accent his voice is rather clear at a right volume. Zoro voice sounds mumbled most times even without sword in his mouth 😂😂
I think I agree with a lot of your criticisms, but I also think it had less of an impact on my enjoyment of the series because I had such low expectations going into it.
I started with the live-action One Piece last year, and tbh, I fell inlove with the story and characters. Then I dove into the anime, finished East Blue, and rewatched the live-action, and I was like, 'this kinda sucks, how did i enjoyed it before?.' Now I get why some OG fans are so salty about it. Zoro in the live-action was trying too hard to be cool. I love Mackenyu but i don't like his portrayal of Zoro even before I got to watch the anime. I actually liked Sanji better in the live-action, but now he's my least favorite in the anime. Honestly, the live-action only worked because the story is so good. It's pretty bad overall, but I'm still gonna watch the new seasons cuz it's the reason I'm obsessed with One Piece now. It's my fave anime ever!
I hope they use this video as feedback to make a better season for one piece viewers. It had some problems some can be blamed to netflix for reducing episode counts. Though for a first season attempt it is not bad but needs improvement as I have a lot of complaint but still more than passable just not amazing. This why build up is important as it makes payoffs stronger as jumping to payoff without build up won't give it tjat oomph. Overall excellent, it is nuance and well articulated, though i feel u still enjoyed just not as much as u hoped to the level of amazing but passable and needing improvement to make season 2 have less flaws
I have to say, you're the first person to comment that they like Usopp's arc so that's cool. Also I agree that coco village relationship was really downplayed especially nojiko and gen
I mean, this was about as good as you're going to get out of a live action version of a shonen anime. Live action and quirky shonen just don't mix that well.
I completely disagree honestly. If anything this series shows that quirky anime can have huuuuuge appeal in live action. It just suffers from alot of the problems most live action series suffer from. Bad dialogue, bad character writing, lackluster emotional scenes etc etc. just getting better writers would make this series a millions times better. This is not the best live action anime has to offer. Far from it Imo.
I thought I was alone in thinking there was significant lapses in character for the cast that really devalued the live action while otherwise there still was a lot of good. Though I do think that it at least showed that good live action adaptations can be made.
Love the video. Pretty accurate to how I feel about the LA. It has great potential but needs to focus more on the writing. Everything else i.e., the sets, the music, the feel, etc. is pretty much perfect. The actors are great, even Mackenyu, who lacks a Zoro-like voice but makes up for it in his swordplay. His fight scenes were the cleanest. He doesn't get to show his acting chops due to the weird characterization, but he does get one scene (waking up after the duel) and you can tell that he can act pretty well and was wasted in the series. One thing I do disagree with you on is the "Magnificent" part. I do not believe Mihawk was mocking Zoro when he said it. In fact I was surprised you felt that way. In my opinion, he was being genuine but didn't want to totally drop his entire demeanor. It felt very nuanced when I saw it. I liked the Mihawk actor. That said, the moments and flashbacks need to hit harder. The context behind the emotional beats must be fleshed out more. I think your video captures that shortcoming of the LA pretty well. I feel that these improvements are necessary for the series to go beyond a second season. The story, in the future, will need expert writing to flesh out the political and the larger narrative aspects it contains. Also, we need better dialogue writing, not just in this show but in most of the shows being made nowadays. I hate the MCU cookie cutter wordplay.
how do you have Hachi 's story in the later in the series, without introducing Hachi? simple, you replace him with one of the other two fishmen they DID introduce. they were already interchangeable in the manga's arlong park arc
That just seems really bizarre, I wouldn't agree they're interchangeable, Hachi has a very specific personality and disposition that makes his change later work, although none of them were even characters in Live Action so if that's what you mean then I guess maybe it could work.
That's just not even correct. At most, you could say Chu and Kuroobi were interchangeable 'cuz they were both assholes, but Hachi is the "nice one", the ONLY one of them the arc makes sense for. Him giving that ride to Zoro didn't just get Zoro back to the SHs, it demonstrated that he doesn't actively hate humans like the other Fish-Men. This would be expanded upon with him giving the SHs an in with Shakky and Rayleigh, not to mention the only reason he helps the SHs in the first place being because he ALREADY felt bad for Nami and regretted taking over the village. Placing racist assholes Chu or Kuroobi in Hachi's position would just make things unnecessarily confusing and less believable.
I thought I was the only one who wasn't a fan of the LA portrayal of Mihawk. I was confused seeing so many people say he's identical to the manga. I mean, looks wise, yes, but personality wise? Not really. Hearing the dub in portuguese (my native language) helped a bit, he sounds sassy but doesn't sound as pompous. I don't think it was a bad change, its just that, personally, I prefer how he is in the source material.
It's decent, it's great how it's a milestone when it comes to western adaptation of an anime regards the localization and scale of One Piece. how they manage the casting is no doubt painstaking, how grounded they were as the pacing when it come to a live counterpart.
I'd rewatch the live action before I slog through the anime's dogshit pacing any day. In fact I've rewatched the live action twice, while to this day I have never rewatched the One Piece anime, only clips of important moments. That's a testament of how much I think the anime wastes my time and how good I think the live action adaptation is. The manga is still better than both though.
I disagree/don't have that big of a problem with most of the criticisms in this video,but it's nice to see someone bring their opinion and i hope season two can make you like it the same way i do.
🤔 I see your points but, as a one piece fan, I accept the live action for what it is, though not perfect, it's an interpretation of the source material. 😅 have you seen the yu yu hakushou adaptation? 😂
The scene in manga where Coby asks Luffy if he thinks he could be a marine and Luffy answers "How would I know?" to make him decide for himself and be "free" was cut. Gen from Namis village also didnt want her to feel the villagers believed in her so he wanted her to feel more free, was also cut. Basically no scenes of the Sun, which is important in the story. Netflix writers basically passing by every little thing that's important for some of the characters
I agree with every point, they fudged the core of each characters arc and a lot of it felt like it only had to happen because of previous alterations, like a smudge across the whole season. Very disappointing, id love to see it recut and edited tho they wont, but there was so much else to love about it so I'm excited for season 2 and Vivi especially
Glad to see this video. Idk how anyone could praise the live action, it just changes shit for no reason, and it follows the trend of anime to live action not working. But people probably praised this one because they're either: A) The common One Piece fans that praise everything about it and would NEVER point out a flaw with something related to their "bible" lol B) Someone who would NEVER watch One Piece because it's "too long" (dumb take of course) but wants to be like "Yeah One Piece is awesome, the Live Action is the definitive way to watch it" lmaooo The Live Action One Piece is poop :(
The live action has it's own interpretation so we should not expect it to be exactly what it's like on the source material. Overall people love it and that's what matters.
@@-tom-8720 people's feelings matter because it's also the reason why we'll be getting a 2nd season, and why Netflix is now investing more on One Piece.
I don't have any strong feelings about the live action (because I haven't watched it, nor do I want to tbh), but this point that you and some others spouted just puzzles me beyond believe. There is zero indication in the video that Phenom aren't welcoming new changes or have problem with the show "having it's own interpretation"; he didn't expect it to be a 1 to 1 copy, hell he even somewhat criticize the show for having lines ripped straight from the source material (just with the context surrounding them significantly diminished). His criticisms (and many many praises) are so on point that this _"don't expect it to be exactly like the source material"_ defense started to sound more like _"don't expect it to be as good as the source material"_ to me. Which would be a fair suggestion I suppose, but why even say it to someone who aren't doing such a thing in the first place?
@@shira_yone he was disappointed to a couple of characters in the live action (Roger, Coby, Garp, Zoro) and then compared it to the source material, I understand what he means but that's where I say it's gonna be too hard to make it exactly as the source material. He even said Mihawk in the live action ruined it when everyone thinnks it's better than the source material. Steve Maeda revealed they have 3 versions of OPLA, they have to reshoot because Oda didn't like the others. I don't know what they should have done and what else to tell you because 1. Oda himself is involved in the production 2. This is a 100 million dollar project and had to cover the whole east blue arc in just 8 episosdes, a lot of people where so skeptical but they made it work. It was successful. 3. you just said you didn't watch the live action so how can you even judge it overall?
@@D__634 where did I even judge the show? The only thing I was judging were people behavior, people whose deflection of the show's criticism seems to be _"just accept it for what it is"_ (which reads more and more like _"just consume the product"_ in my gradually less charitable opinion). Phenom compared many things to the original NOT because he want it to be exactly like the source material, but to explain what substance was improved (like captain Kuro) and what was not because of the changes. As if it weren't clear enough, he doesn't have a problem with the show "having it's own interpretation"; he got a problem with it if those interpretation deserves criticism (i.e. of questionable quality). It's honestly comical to me that people were essentially saying that Phenom can't criticise these aspects because of something he didn't even do, ironically maybe people should expect some criticisms to be uttered in a critique video essay.
Mixed bag of a series IMO. I think it got enough right that I can say it’s among the better live action adaptations of an anime, but eight episodes was really not enough to provide the kind of development that could have made this truly great. Garp in particular bothered me, and I definitely noticed how a number of major scenes didn’t hit as hard.
I mainly disagreed with you on Roger and Mihawk. I thought Roger's execution was amazing unless I'm missing some later context (I'm at Skypiea right now) Mihawk leaning more into the cock Spaniard duellist aspect of his character was pretty good in my opinion. I think if you have him acted out as the scary villain who respects strength he'll end up sounding pretty generic, though I didn't watch the anime so maybe he's amazing there. However the "Magnificent" clip you showed DID seem sarcastic when presented out of context so I could've been filling in from my manga memories for that part. I did agree that his presence felt very minimal in the live-action and rather forced. One last thing unrelated to your points. I found it really distracting and occasionally confusing how you sometimes laid the manga panels from left to right when the dialog is still right to left like at 17:47
I did like it but do agree there were some big flaws. For me main one was Kobayashi village. I think it was because would seem awkward them being okay Nami sold herself. But there was like no other option left. People just think the marines could have helped when shown they wouldn't cause od Nazumi. Not sure how accurate imdb is but says hachi was cast as well as episode 7 credits but... where. Maybe that angry Fishman during poker but didn't have budget to do proper Hachi.
The only bad thing about the movie was pacing which that can’t be helped and some lines are kinda weird trying to say it in a live action kinda made me cringe when luffy tells nami she’ll always be her friend it’s not perfect or anything but it’s a pretty decent adaptation
Zoro was butchered. I think Mackenyu is a very good actor but golly, they messed him up but you didnt address the BIGGEST issue for me I would have been okay with him being "edgy" but he was always characterized by his will and determination. There are huge moments in the anime that prove this that were all cut out. Zoro cuts himself vs Cabaji to prove that little wounds like that would never stop him. Later , despite the grave wound from Mihawk, he pushes on and defeats Hachi. I honestly dont get how they could even fathom cutting these 2 fights out. Its wild. They dont even have the wound bothering Zoro that much. Then his backstory. They missed the entire point. Zoro goes full blown PSYCHO MODE in his training after Kuina dies. They not only failed to convey that but they cut almost all of it out. I also really disliked Luffy as a character imo. Even tho hes a big fan, i really dont think Matt Owens carried a very deep understanding of these characters
It's one of the best adaptation of the anime compared to most live actions. And as wacky and absurd as One Piece is, they really did a great job translating it to a live action
@@mikayrose2 6-6.5/10 rating is not bad, it was good, does the job, not spectacular, the straw hat crew casting is perfect. OP fanbase wanted it to be good, it was good enough not the best. The changes the LA made to the source material works sometimes works, sometimes does not. The main detriment to show is '8 episode' Netflix format, feels rushed, should have given little more time to explore the characters.
Regarding the nulber of episodes, I believe that they were planning to make 10 45min long episodes, and not 1h long. iirc that’s the case for many netflix shows that have 10 episodes, so I doubt the number of episodes would change anything at the end of the day
I'm glad I didn't finish the live action. My disappointment would be tapped out. One Piece Live Action was a mistake for the sole fact that they adapted a series that Oda was going to finish in that saga but now have decades of foresight from him and the writers to make a series that is so foreign to me that I couldn't finish 1 episode.
Brah. Stop trying to go against the grain and trying to be cool. It’s a W for anime live action. Get with the crowd my guy. It’s ok to be a follower when it comes to one piece.
“Get with the crowd” lmaoooo ur telling bro to be a mindless sheep? Just enjoy what the masses r enjoying even tho it has glaring flaws? u sound like the type to wait for ur friends to give their opinion on sumn so u can agree with them. No individuality 😂😂😂
Don't think you needed a hour just to say they cut Jango out
I'm glad someone else sees it Jango was the best
I wonder if they'll bring Jango back in Alabasta along with fullbody. @@jimothywright1621
Wait. Fr? This is the video is about?
I actually completely agree with you on the Zoro point. I remember going in hoping that they would be able to capture his goofier and more laid back side but was really disappointed when we didn’t get that. Which is a shame because Zoro is my favorite character in OP.
Zorotards like edgy
Though I like LA Zoro aka a badass who’s a dumbass and genuinely believes in that, it’s no where near the original Zoro
The closest we get is when he makes fun of Nami after Sanji flirts with her, and him arguing with Sanji after defeating Arlong, and we need MORE of these
My problem with the show is how they handle Usopp and Sanji in their respective arcs, Usopp spends most of his arc hiding in a closet and they remove Sanji's friendship with Gine, that and i think Nami is too deadpan in this show, deadpan works for Zoro but not Nami
zoro is waaaaay to deadpan tho.
From someone who discovered the wonderful world of One Piece from the live action, i really appreciate your insight as a fan of the original manga/anime.
What made the live action so good was that it wasn't afraid to be weird and embrace all the things that made One Piece so good. Even if some things aren't as good as others, it's still really good. In fact, people are now getting into the anime because of it, and I just love that so much! I watched it with my little brother. He didn’t like the anime, but after watching it with him, he not only rewatched the entirety of East Blue, but he's now on Skypiea and he's a massive fan thanks to the live action.
Well, when you do much terrible things coming out of netflix. Okayish shows seem ground-breaking(Which one piece LA is).
100% agree, I love how much the live action has rejuvenated love for One Piece, both within existing fans and newcomers to the series. It's also clearly had impacts outside of its own show, the new remake by WIT Studio is clearly being funded by Netflix because they want a more accessible anime companion for the live action series. Really hard to complain with what Netflix has been doing for the franchise overall.
@nathandanczak7822 As a massive One Piece fan, I can actually understand why you think it's okay. Even though it is the single most successful shounen live-action, it was heavily restricted when it came to telling the story in a way that was not only good but also within their budget and the time they were given. A lot was cut and altered due to both time and budget constraints. So unfortunately, even though the live-action was good and a massive success, it could never truly be as good as it could have been if Netflix gave them just a little more time and money. I mean, they didn't even get to the end of the East Blue saga, which was planned, and dragon scenes were filmed but had to be cut due to time and budget restraints. But overall, the series is a good 6-8/10, which is far better than some other live actions, even if they were short on both time and money.
I have a real bone to pick with the pacing of that "help me" scene Cuz like, the villagers haven't even LEFT to go and fight Arlong yet. And Nami's already falling to her knees in despair. The whole reason that scene hits, at least for me, is that for Nami, its all over, The Money is gone, Nojiko has been fucking SHOT, and the whole village has gone to go and fight Arlong knowing that they'll all die. But in the live action, she literally just got robbed. and the village hated her legit this whole time. She COULD just go and get more money. Its so so weird!
I think it's an understatement she got robbed. I get a lot of the criticisms of the OPLA, I also agree that the villagers should have gotten more attention, but sadly Netflix cut down the episode from 10 to 8.
Now with Nami, I cried because it was all not worth it anymore. All those years where the people she tried to save hated her. She keeps trying to say to themselves, "it will all be worth it" the money being taken, basically means all of her hard work was gone. It was not worth it. It was a waste of time.
@@FanTalks1 yea i can understand what you mean but it honestly just isn't that impactful as the original scene. Everyone is literally supporting Nami and that realization along with them not only going to fight arlong, but letting her know it isnt her fault and they all love and care about her and they're putting their lives on the line for her out of respect for all the hard work shes put in is what truly surrounds that impactful moment of Nami breaking down knowing all is hopeless
@@EzuprkASMR I think that's fair to say the original was better. But this is the reality of the LA, they need to cut stuff for time and budget.
What they did with adding Garp is my biggest problem. It took time out from important plotlines in East Blue and ruined a later reveal with Garp which should've happened in Water 7 & hit much, much more there. Also, they completely excluded Hachi...
I really hope they do not ignore the criticism as form of people just haying and for goodness sake give them more episodes.
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I never saw One Piece before I saw the Netflix show, and I still agree with you on quite a few points. Like how Usopp never felt like he got any focus, or how inane the twist with Garp testing Luffy was, and just how rushed everything feels.
This was actually a really solid video with a lot of great points that articulated some of my problems with the series as well, even though I didn’t watch much of the original One Piece. It's a shame this video didn't get more attention 😑
Steven Maeda has actually said that they REALLY wanted to include Hachi, they even had a really cool fight scene for him planned out but he had to be cut due to budgetary limitations, it's a shame but it is understandable.
I think the live action was very well made, though I do have some gripes with the cut content, but I think they consolidated it well enough. Though I do wish it was like 4 episodes longer at least so there was a bit more fleshing out certain areas. I don't want the crazy amount of fluff the anime has, but I also don't want it to be rushed like the live action. There needs to be a middle ground, and hopefully they resolve this with season 2.
It's going to be cut a lot and a lot of story elements for the remainder seasons. We should have made our own company.
Originally we got 10, but got cut to 8
If, just if we have an extra episode for Arlong park, the show will be far better
I really hope the second season has around 15 episodes because there is no way they can fit everything into less than 10 episodes.
hopefully they at least get 10, that was what they originally had for season 1 but netflix made them shorten to 8 which meant they couldnt get to lougetown
@cwompus No, it's still gonna feel condensed with 8 episodes.
@@nathandanczak7822 it literally cant be good if they only do 8 episodes. its going to have more
Steven said that they cut lougetown because they ran out of money not due to Netflix@@cwompus
actually u can easily fit loguetown -> alabasta in 10 episodes - 1 loguetown, 2 rivers mounanin (laboom), 3 whiskey peak (vivi), 4-5 drum island (chopper arc) , 6 -10 alabasta, 5 episodes for alabasta seems to much if u think that arlong arc was 1 and a half episode (and we can asume that the last episode of S2 (at least the half episode) is a setup for more adventures to come in future
in a podcast showrunner matt owens talked about how he had to leave production for the sagafta strikes and didnt even know how much would be cut, as he filmed for 10 episodes. appearantly they DID film usopp scenes and more characterization for sanji, but they never made it to the final cut.
This live action was the best thing I watched this year I hadn't been this invested in a show in years
Then you should really watch actual One Piece lol
Mackenyu is post time skip zoro.
I can never forgive the live action for what it did to Arlong Park
Diehard OP fan and I agree with the title, though I will say the final episode is absolute peak anime to live action, western or not. It's done what I believe all adaptions should strive for and what every fan of an adapted IP should have the privilege of experiencing at least once. That last episode, man. Lmao. To me, it really captured some of that emotion of OP that most fans may consider exclusive to it
Truly phenomenal the way you clearly expressed your feelings towards the show. No pun intended
About Coby's introduction: I just think they didn't want to call a woman fat and ugly in the show. Stuff like that doesn't really fly today.
They should have had him stand up for himself in another way, instead of just not doing anything at all.
It wasn’t Koby’s time to stand up for himself. His role was extended to be throughout the season of this show.
His arc was stretched until the end of the season, where he stands up to Garp and finally says “No”. Instead of
meeting a random guy for 5 minutes, then completely turning around and being brave after spending potentially years as a coward.
I feel some audiences may see that as a few sudden / rushed development for live action series’ standards.
This is a live action show that’s based on an anime, but it wasn’t meant to be a direct copy of the anime. It’s a different interpretation.
@@GuyWithNoNickName Yet that destroys cobys character and Garps, and Mihawks, and Helmmeppo's, and Morgan, and Alvida, and most importantly Luffy's. Sorry but Netflix shill your time in the sun is gone SMILE group isnt getting paid to bot anymore.
@@snintendogno it doesnt lol. Mihawk still acts on his own giving a F U to garp, helpmeppo if anything has better character in LA, Morgan is a side character who was much cooler in LA fighting both luffy and zoro unlike in anime where he got cooked easily. And Alvida played her part(I didnt like that they were scared to call her fat etc but I dont mind coz the actress is actually beautiful either way).
More importantly it elevates Coby's character. Like the other guy said, it makes no sense for Coby to standup to Alvida after 5-10 mins of talk with this random stranger. It doesnt make sense in the anime or even the manga. Which is probably why ODA the goat himself agreed to this changed script. Think about it from ODA's perspective, he surely knows more about Coby and his plans for this character in future than any one of us.
@@blasttrash yawn all I read was Netflix simping and saying og one-piece is bad.
@@blasttrashI think an aspect y’all r forgetting is that luffy is supposed to be the “warrior of liberation”. Sure it’s unrealistic to have a character grow balls after being a coward his whole life but that’s the amazing thing about luffy. He does things like that on a daily basis. His very presence causes people to want to break their shackles and achieve their dreams. That aspect was lost in the LA. He seems a lot more like a dumb pirate who stumbles upon success rather than a man who inspires the world around him just by existing.
It's the curse problem plus with budgets, but seeing the curse hopefully broke The One Piece Live Action will get the exorbitant amount of budget
I came to terms that OPLA really was not made for me but my friend who started reading the manga and is now on wano because of the Live Action
Honestly, I'm really glad that someone pointed out a lot of the flaws. Everyone or at least most people completely glaze the show completely refusing to hear any critique on the show which in my opinion is just delusional. I love one-piece and some of the stuff they did in the live action yea it was good but there was quite a lot of stuff that honestly didn't sit well with me either which you happened to highlight such as when Luffy ate the gum gum fruit like why did he randomly go over to open the box, you know? And Zoro's character does lack a lot of color and is just set on a dull atmospheric screenplay, not even including how he randomly second episode is like "I didn't have anywhere to go, but Luffy changed that,'" when he literally just met brodie like not even 24 hours ago. I'm glad you posted this video because soon as I watched the show, I immediately came to TH-cam to find someone who would also highlight these points which shocked me when I found barely any critics until I came here. Besides that, your video is very well explained which I greatly appreciate, thank you lol
I think people like it because of the people involved and compared to other netflix adaptations it's much better than anything else although it don't take much to improve from what they had to begin with.
There is little to disagree with in this video. Though I 100% agree on Zoro (re-read East blue if you disagree).
I don't know how I miss your OPLA review videos from my radar. Even though I'm ok with Live Action, I totally agreed with all of your points. You understand the source material very well. I really want to see your OPLA season 2 review when it come out. I just subbed now and hope I won't miss your OPLA season 2 review video next time.
glad i’m not alone on this….
It's not gonna be for everyone but the point is it captured the spirit of the original enough to please the fanbase. Which was all we ever really wanted.
That wasn't their intention at all it was literally about shipping the IP to new viewers and hoped the OG fanbase liked it enough to support it.
@@-tom-8720 which they did because it captured the spirit of the source material.
It's trash asf
(Not) fun fact : Even Oda himself didn’t like the addition of Garp, but one of the showrunner ( Steve Maeda (?) ) “persuaded” him to add it in
Though I like LA Garp ( never expected to see Garp and Zeff chowing down beef, and talking about the new generations ), it could lead to so many disasters, like many adaptations have done and got killed ( Like the Witcher from Netflix ), the writing team did a good job to minimize the damage ( Not to say it’s 100% successful)
Luckily he’s stepping down as showrunner
How about giving Zoro (and Usopp) real personality in later seasons? Wouldn't that be something?
Usopp feels so out of character it hurts, i know he cant be exactly how he is in the anime but he should at least be close
We have the same sentiments on most things especially Garp and how Kuro was the best villain throughout the series but I liked it. I also agree on how the environment was brought into life and can't wait for what they do for Alabasta
"It's almost as if there was a time limit"... yes... that's how the medium of live action functions. That's one of the give and takes of doing live action to begin with. They had an 8 episode deal to get through the first season and hopefully not get the show canceled right away in the process and Oda was masterful enough to pull this off.
If you wanted a beat for beat retelling of the manga or anime then why even do it in the first place? We already have those. Live action is always going to present strange background elements that add or even take from the source material. The goal is at the end of the day to be able to tell the story with the same moral or heart as the original. That's what makes the live action the third prong of One Piece. Manga, Anime, and Live Action. Three mediums that must deliver the story in radically different ways.
From what I hear they've given the team more episodes per season because they've earned some trust so maybe things don't have to feel as rushed. But the first season could not have been any other way and functioned. Every decision was made with Oda's approval. I'd trust that he'd understand how to tell his story.
Nobody cares what Oda says. Not everything he creates is perfect, no matter how much I love One Piece. The manga and the anime are literally the same, with maybe slight differences so I don't understand this criticism. If you couldn't tell a genuine One Piece story then don't do it at all or at least not try to blow past so much content in a few time. They also didn't have to reach the Arlong Park Arc, they really could've went to Baratie and end it there.
@@TrafalgarD.Wat3rLaw "Nobody cares what Oda says"... Oda has final say on everything that happens on the live action show. If anime and manga are the same... if while you're reading manga the pictures are moving and you're hearing voices in your head you might want to seek professional help. But for the rest of the world no... no manga and anime are not the same, they are different mediums for storytelling. If you can't understand that then let's just all be glad that you have no control over the production of the show. If you did it would be trash.
@@MrSerious1 i didn't think I needed to explain one is animated and one is not. I thought that was obvious and didn't need to be stated, but I can see you're not very smart and can't understand anything unless its spelled out for you. Obviously they're "different", but the story literally plays out the exact same as the manga, unlike the live action. So you acting like the anime is majorly different then the manga just because its animated is straight oonga bunga beavior. You have to be 12, because there is just no way you even said that and tried to use that as a valid point. That was actually so stupid, I genuinely cannot believe you typed that with confidence. Oh my lord you're actually dumb for that. Also Oda literally draws adults drooling over children. Stop glazing the man and everything he does, and come up with your own opinions.
Wow didn't expect March comes in like a lion soundtrack here 49:42. My favorite one too!
I didn't like luffy that much actually, he wasn't bad but I think he was way to... smart? He was so worried about so much stuff, overthinking things, I get that he's a bit of a more emotional version but I liked him being so careless, being just a good guy and seeing that in his crew, I liked that he didn't tell ANYONE that he was a good pirate, "That's up to you to decide" has always been his modus operandi, I liked that after the fight with mihawk he tried fighting and I LOVED that during the battle at baratie zeff told sanji to watch carefully so he could realize what kind of person luffy was, he didn't told no one "I'm a different kind of pirate" but PROVED that he was just by being that way, in Buggy's arc no one knew what they did, only the mayor and I really loved him telling the villagers that he was the only one allowed to curse on them because they're not doing it for the fame or to be hero's, they're doing it because it's the right thing and no one need to know. The live action was really good and I will always be grateful that it brought so many people to watch the anime but it lacked so much that I would love it to have more people actually giving the anime/manga a try, fortunately there's the new anime coming, hope that one's better and that it bring so much more people to the community
I agree with most of your points, and I'm genuinely GLAD that someone finally brings those flaws that everyone seems not to care about. Every single members of the crew are either out of character (Luffy, Zoro, Nami) or have 3 seconds of screentime (Usopp, Sanji). Luffy's character in the first 2-3 episodes was "okay" while having some huge flaws. But then oh man his character got so much worse. They tried so hard making him the good pirate who only does good action and only befriends with angels, in the very first episode he says to Koby something like "Every pirate I know don't kill" or some sh!t like that. BRO. Shanks and his crew litterally KILLED the mountain bandits in the EXACT SAME EPISODE, what they were even trying to do ???? They completly failed Luffy's character. WhenGarp and Zeff were talking about Luffy in Baratie, they were basically talking about MANGA Luffy, there is no way it was LA Luffy. The writters know who Luffy is, but they didn't know how to pull him off in the show. The actual Luffy inspires people and helps them surpassing themselves, this is not LA Luffy, he doesn't inspire anyone. Not even Koby. Not even his own crew. He inspired them because the script wants them to, but not thanks to Luffy. To finish with Luffy, there was something that pissed me off so SO SO MUCH in this show and its that : Luffy was NOT elastic. I'll explain myself. Yes, his arms could stretch. Yes, he has the ability to turn into a baloon etc. But not a single time after that one fighting scene vs Alvida in ep 1, his body tanked his enemy's punches. When he fought Arlong, he FELT those punches, and it's not even because of the sea water, because even in the map room he was hurt by Arlong's FISTS. They couldn't even understand the most BASIC point of his character.
Now Zoro. I'm happy for Zoro fans cause he had 3 character arcs in this show : Romance Dawn, Syrup and Baratie. The peak of Syrup arc was ZORO. CLIMBING. A. GODDAM. WELL. I'm sorry but that was SO A$$. Thye couldn't fail more this arc. He litterally stole the show twice and left no crumbs to Usopp and Sanji, they were just some guys who got to meet Luffy and hiw crew, that's all. Their recruitment in the crew made no sense. They didn't have any character arc, they barely stood up against the antagonist of the arc (Baratie had none lol) AND THAT is a hige HUGE problem. The writers thought that an antagonist's unique purpose is to be a powerscalling checkpoint and help the MAIN PROTAGONIST get stronger, but they never questioned themselves about the importance they have to the newly introduced characters, tha protagonist of each arc. Why is Krieg a giant man with a golden armor, weapons covering his entire body and has a big a$$ crew with a gigantic ship ? Because Oda wanted to show us that no matter how physically strong you are, no matter how much you are equiped, the ONLY thing that matters in a fight between two dreamers is guts and power of convictions. Krieg had none of them, that's the reason why he lost against Luffy, the biggest dreamer in the world. That's the reason why Sanji witnessed his defeat and Luffy's victory. And that's because Sanji HAD to see how far these people could go for their dreams that he also saw Zoro fighting Mihawk. He was sticking to the Baratie like a mussel on its rock, and Zeff and the staff had to tear him off of the Baratie so he could pursue his dream. We had none of that in the LA.
I have so many other things to say, whether it be about Luffy, Usopp's character, Arlong Park, Garp, Buggy, Nami, Syrup arc, etc, but I unfortunately don't have the time to expand more on that. I was sooo excited to see the LA, I truly believed that they would give us a great show and wouldn't betray their promises. But this show ended to be a big lie and was certainly one of my biggest disapointments
I didn't read all of that but please don't watch season 2 then ok? What? You will watch it regardless? Thought so 😂
@@dimitripatronas2409 no need to ask me for that lol not only did they completely cut everything that make One Piece so special, but besides of that they have a bunch of zi0nists working on it and plan on adding even more with S2 (jlc 🤢)
I haven't watched it yet but It's the live action you can't make it 1 to 1 with the source material
@@rubberman3226 of course, but it doesn’t mean you have to write the characters (and the script in general) so poorly, I’m sure that most of the main cast would get their ass beaten by their original version of themselves in the manga, bc Garp is straight up a fasc!st at this point lol and Luffy is the exact opposite of who he actually is
How are you going to say Luffy is out of character when Oda himself picked him?
Such a great video. You went really detailed. I really agree with most of the pros and cons. Spot on for an hour straight.
I disagree with you on the wigs. Some of the color made it seem more similar to the anime. I thought the wigs worked on some characters. You’re right they looked terrible on others tho.
for me this wasn't The one piece, but A one piece. it was good for what it had, and thats a good thing. they did drop out certain things, but got other things to compensate, and thats fine, because this leaves additional content for those who didn't watch the anime to enjoy, or alternatively extra content for those who didn't watch the live action. sometimes that especially resonated with me was the fact that arlong wasn't just a bad dude and a bully, but an actual terrorist, which wasn't really communicated well in the anime, but was wonderful in the live action. as someone who lives in israel and considering the horrific events of the 7/10/2023, this was actually terrifyingly accurate to how a terrorist mindset is like, and almost felt like im watching some Hamas terrorists talking and not fishmen. excited to see more in the future.
I do hope season 2 goes for 10 episodes. Hopefully, they can learn from their missteps on season 1 and elevate the series higher with the second season
i agree with the zoro part this zoro felt more like post time skip zoro then the pre time skip one.
Honestly, I understand why they changed Koby’s introduction in the LA. Although OP is anything but realist and I’m glad they kept its wackiness, in a live action setting people’s personalities at least, must be real and human. Koby barely knew Luffy and couldn’t possibly trust him 100% at that point. They had literally met just 10 minutes ago. I think it would be weird and out of place for him to throw his old ways out the window so abruptly at that point in the story. It was fine in the anime, but for the live action, it was much more satisfying to slowly see him grow and become braver throughout the season, at least imo.
I will agree with you Zoro is...TOO SERIOUS.
I think the live action is really good - if you are not familiar with the manga. I watched the live action not knowing anything about One Piece, I only knew it was popular manga/anime series. I really enjoyed it and decided to start reading the manga. After catching up to the most recent chapter I decided to rewatch the live action and I have to say, I have many problems with it, similar to the ones you mentioned, mostly with Luffy, Garp and whole Arlong Park. Live action is much less subtle than the manga, but I will still give it like 8/10 for the effort. As far as the manga goes - it became my favorite piece of media I have ever consumed. Give me chapter 1104 already, please!
Koby introduction; 7:49
In the source material, that moment was the end of Koby's first arc, here it's just the beginning, his arc ends in a simmler vain in the finale (admititly undercut with the garps "test"), when he stood up to Garp, he put his dream of being a merian on the line for Luffy, imo that's better than having him put his life on the line by calling alvida fat and ugly, just for Luffy to save him.
Mihawk; 35:23
I would agree to some extent that it didn't feel like Zoro gave it his all before he lost, it didn't feel like he was outmatched; it felt like he just got outplayed, which is a meaningful difference.
I would say that Mihawk is definitely a sassy, cocky swerdsman. I do agree that the magnificant line feels more like a "good job" rather than the a "YES, Fanstasitc, you understand what a sowerdsman is, and I respect you as such" kind of line it was supposed to be.
Luffy Doubting Himself; 36:59
I disagree massively; I think this is a missread. The situation is 'ur crewmember will die, and to stop that from happening is to stop him from following his dream. What will you do?' This isn't out of character; this is his responsibility as a captain and his core values clashing. he doesn't regret not stopping him, he regrets failing his responsibility as a captain, he even says, "I would have done anything to save him, anything but stand in the way of his dream."
grete criticism, all around, it was deffenitly rushed in some plases, hopefully that gets better next season
real, plus he just met luffy for just a few minutes, ofc nothings gonna change in koby yet.......just like what you said, realistically putting his liffe on the line by calling alvida fat and ugly is not something a normal person like koby would do.
Uhhhhh, not gonna get better dude! Hah!
9:39 You say that Gold Roger's speech was too fast but expect Coby to show development within few mins that we see him? It worked in manga/anime but it might be just be nostalgia for us. Think about it, it makes no sense for Coby to suddenly show such character development to call Alvida a hag just after meeting luffy a stranger for few mins. Coby's character growth in LA makes much more sense which is probably why ODA agreed to this changed script and gave Coby more show time. This is also why Coby's last meeting with luffy where he gives bounty poster hits us that much more. It would be weird if Coby called Alvida a hag in the first episode itself and acted all meek and stuff later on while chasing luffy with Garp. His interactions with Helmeppo, Garp, listening to Mihawk etc adds much more character development for the finale meeting with luffy. If this character development was sped up in the first episode, all these interactions would'nt make sense.
Also GOLD Roger's scene was PERFECT. You know why? Its coz its supposed to be a legend/myth. Even in the anime, whenever we get Gold Roger's flashback, its always different. Sometimes its sunny, sometimes its raining etc. It shows that different people are remembering that scene differently. If LA does this like anime, then surely we will get a more detailed flashback sometime in future where they show characters like buggy crying etc during that execution scene. At the end of the day LA is an adaptation of manga, not anime. So a lot of pacing related issues that you had with LA might just be temporal dilation in your brain coz you are used to a different adaptation which is anime.
LA's pacing was perfect, it did miss certain things imo but those had nothing to do with pacing but the budget of one more episode etc. Would've been great if Sanji actor was little bit more weak during starvation scene(using CGI of course), also it would've been great if the last piece of bread fell off(that would've shown us that desperation he had), also Nami's interaction with villagers especially the fact that villagers knew about Nami's goals all along(unfortunately this was removed in LA).
damn bro it’s just an opinion of someone else can you relax😂
bro wrote a novel
@@kingslayerbella and the op made a video :P
@@blasttrash saying they didn’t like it..u didn’t have to watch it u could’ve moved on u writing a novel isn’t gunna change someone’s opinion i thought gol d rogers scene was average as well.
@@kingslayerbella using that logic they could've moved on as well instead of watching the show. Or YOU COULD'VE moved on as well instead of coming and replying under my comment. Sharing opinions is how we show we are passionate about this project.
And I gave clear explanations as to why I have that opinion instead of simply saying "Oh I thought that scene was average as well" coz there are many on OPLA sub who would disagree with you and according to your logic, you should just shut up and not have your opinion because thats what you are expecting of me.
It's generally fine for people to like different things
I agree with this video for sure, very good points are made and I am not a fan of the live-action myself. Much of One Piece is about metaphorical meanings which are poorly expressed, if not expressed at all in the live-action.
Although, I have to say one thing, what you said at 51:32 isn't a valid criticism because the walk to Arlong Park was never even in the manga in the first place. It's only a popular scene among anime-only American/European viewers anyway, it isn't really this "OMG ICONIC YEAHHH!!!" scene in Japan as they primarily read the manga while the west's primary way of consuming the story is through the anime which just ISN'T the real story of One Piece, exactly like the live-action.
I never got the hype because I always knew that it was some Toei nonsense where they stalled out the episode as the walk took an unreasonably long amount of time, the dramatic music didn't distract me from that either. I understand the hype of the "Help me" scene, I'm part of that hype, I love it, and that scene is popular not only in Japan but worldwide, as it happened in the manga and has actual plot significance unlike the walk which is a filler "cool factor walk" to stall time, which anime-onlys, because they don't know any better, try to spin around as the scene that "officially made the Straw Hats be what they are!" or some other dumb headcanon.
Anime-only scenes just aren't popular worldwide. It's only here in the West, particularly the English-speaking community, that stuff like G-8 gets so much praise to an almost obnoxiously repetitive degree. And I'm pointing all of this out so you can understand where the live-action staff are coming from, from a creative standpoint. What we here in the West deem to be popular, isn't actually popular outside our little bubble, or, to be less sugarcoaty here, echo chamber. I just want to burst that bubble so you can understand and come to terms with the exclusion of anime-only scenes like that. Besides that, the live-action obviously adapts the manga, not the anime. That's why we got Shanks' backstory immediately instead of waiting until after Zoro joins to show it like how the anime did it.
The western fandom's beliefs of how the story happened is so rooted in what the anime does that I just don't see eye to eye on them a lot of times because they are ignorant to what the actual story, AKA the manga, is telling us and is trying to convey to us.
Sorry if this may have come off as incredibly picky, I just think that criticizing the live-action for not having what another adaptation/interpretation made instead of the original source material, isn't fair. Maybe you didn't know and never read the whole manga from start to finish and you just looked up manga panels for this video? That would at least explain what you said at 51:32, and if so, I can't really blame you at that point because that's how most English-speaking people are, being ignorant to how all the events happened in the manga that is.
Despite what I just said, most of this video I agree with! I just wanted to mention my biggest gripe with it because praising all the positive aspects of this video would be redundant, so don't get it twisted, I loved the video!
You definitely made a huge point on every thing you've said but in my own humble opinion (I'm a die hard OP manga fan) OPLA is entirely it's own interpretation of the original work and I would most definitely be watching it as long as it is renewed given that they will stick to the overall concept and feel of THE One Piece by gODA 😆
If you have to tone Luffy down in anyway to “make it work”, then you shouldn’t be touching it in the first place.
I remember I was immensly satisfied with sanjis portrail. this is the sanji I want to see, not the literal joke he became inn the anime.
Great job! Honestly super hard to talk about all my thoughts because there is A LOT to say about various different things. I ended up agreeing on a LOT and glad you spent a lot of hard work get as many thoughts out there as you did.
Not much time spent on the show's pretty gross color grading and weirdly distracting camera/cinematography for character's close ups; just a LOT of shots where the depth of field was so narrow. Also I do respect the hell out of how detailed and lived in the set design was (again lighting and overall darkness of interiors - even scenes that were original meant to be during the day being at night - was a big enjoyment harmer). However certain places like Baratie just didn't feel like Baratie. Turning a blindingly bright white tableclooth and silverware restaurant into some seedy night-life restaurant felt odd. Baratie and even Kaya's house felt super anachronistic to how I felt they were interpreted in the anime. Like there's hardly any natural light coming in through the windows unless they're glaringly dramatic beams of god light casting shadows on the walls. I kind of wish we got to see more of the set design and for it to be much less red? More blue?
Anyway, wondering what your thoughts were on the early Garp-Luffy lineage reveal since you didn't get to talk too much about that in your Garp section.
Again, great vid! Super sad to hear about the 2 episode cut. Did not know about that. Hard to know if that means there was 2 episodes worth of material cut or not. Because the amount of stuff that you could argue felt "missing" does not seem as much as a problem of the weird choices they seemed to be committed to from the get-go (cutting characters and how they messed up Mihawk). Really would love to hear a director's commentary about that one day.
Ur one of the few people I’ve seen criticizing the weird visuals of the series. Most people just gawk at the set design (which is nice) but the color grading and camera angle choices they make are pretty bad a lot of the times. Especially during dialogue scenes. I can tell they’re trying to go for an anime/manga vibe with the editing but the way they went about it didn’t work imo.
Im with you on most of the criticism but I like the live-action, I watched the live-action four 4 times ( 1. original release in Eng, 2. in Japanese, 3. in my country language, 4. With my friends). As a Manga fan for 13 years (my favourite manga ever) I gave it 5.5/10 but as a casual movie watcher, I gave it 7.5/10. Like I say Im only a Manga reader even an Anime eastblue saga I gave it 6.5 compared to manga but 7.5/10 as a casual anime watcher. But what makes me like live-action is the Simplicity. It is just like an old 2010 movie like Avenger 1 where all character is honed on their 1 characteristic. It is a completely different thing compared to the Manga. From this review, I think the problem you have is mostly what people have the problem with Superhero movies. I like Superhero movies because it is a fun time but not a long time. I like this Adaptation because it has the same idea "Fun time, not a long time" but not the source material which is " Fun time for a long time". The only thing that Onepiece's live-action is better than most Superheroes' live-action is that the movie lacks a Thematic message and have more Wholesome/whimsical fantasy.
I think if you have the source material in mind, live-action is always gonna be bad compared to the source material. When you say " Un zoro like to do " or " Not Luffy enough to me", it is what I think of it the first time I watch it. But the second time and the third time I watched it, it made me understand the tone of the character better. I keep thinking to myself how to fit " Goffy Zoro" or "Crackhead Luffy moment (which I disappoint that it not existed" in some scenes and realise that it is kinda impossible with the length of the episode.
It is easy to list the nitpicked and disappoint ant things that exist in the Og source material but not in LA. Such as I dont like Syrup Village in Live action because I like Usopp Pirate and the Three Kids, I dont like the look of most set designs and a lot of dark lighting scenes compared to manga where 90% is day light, Sanji does not see zero fight, Hachi non-existent, Gen and Nojiko is not focused at all and the village didn't know about Nami make them look like idiot etc. Everything sucks compare to manga but the only thing that didn't suck is without those I mention you won't get the simple form of Onepiece. This live-action film is not an Arc cramp-up into 8 episodes but I think it is a thoughtful way to explain Onepiece concept/world in 8 episodes. Marines have more explanation, Pirate and warlord have more explanation, and the world has more explanation but the character got cut down. In the source material Oda also still experimenting , he reverse engineer most of his character until post-time skip where every character in the crew stick to there own gags. In early one Luffy is the one who got lost everywhere, Sanji is more gentleman and a thug, Zoro smile al the time etc. It hard to describe the audience what your chracter are when he have too many emotion. Onepiece have it Lenght to do that but not the liveaction that why it need Zoro to stick as a " cool sword man who rarely smile " Than " cool sword guy who love smile but always serious looking because his burden and his loyalty character as a first mate/vicecaptian make him not want to smile" that is too complex for 8 episode. I will keep supporting it because I love when people being creative and I like when people adapted series I like in to Live action , game, novel, etc because it fun even if it bad or good, that why headcanon and What if.. exist.
However, I dont care, Oda finally made my mom watch his series lol.
Not clickbait, valid points. I like ohara complaining about mihawks boots and ussops sling haha. But I think this show has made life even harder for other live actions
nami is my favorite character in any anime ever and i was so disappointed how they did nami. the actresss is sooooo gorgeous but i didn’t feel the nami vibe :( hopefully it’s better next season
The sad fact is this is a sinking ship destined to fall. The next season won't be out until 2025. Meaning it takes almost a year, maybe 2 to make 1 season. That's not sustainable for a series as long as One Piece, especially in live action when the actors age as time passes. They simply can't keep this going, I give it one more season before it's cancelled, especially if you consider how big the budget will need to get for the more insane seasons later one.
yeah I am curious how they're going to handle the actors becoming very old by the time they reach seasons 5/6
@@PhenomSage Yeah probably not a smart idea to make a live action show where despite 20 years passing the main characters only aged about 2 years in canon.
that’s literally only because of the writers and actors strike putting a stop to Hollywood for literally 8 months
Chopper should just be skipped live action don't need a talking reindeer Dr. That reveal will either make or break this show
I wouldn't say I loved it but I definitely liked it.
He Acts like post time skip zoro
Not at all. LA zoro is a snarky diva. Zoro rarely cares to argue (unless it’s with sanji) and showers once a week. So why in the live action is he telling nami not to wear black because it’s his color? It was meant to be comedic but Stuff like that just makes zoro seem like a completely different character from the manga. Instead of being the quiet loyal swordsman he’s the edgy snarky hothead.
My problem with Zoro, maybe I'm too used to Zoro's VA both Japanese and English version, is that his voice is just too soft, wished he talks a little Louder. So far even though Luffy has an accent his voice is rather clear at a right volume. Zoro voice sounds mumbled most times even without sword in his mouth 😂😂
I think I agree with a lot of your criticisms, but I also think it had less of an impact on my enjoyment of the series because I had such low expectations going into it.
I started with the live-action One Piece last year, and tbh, I fell inlove with the story and characters. Then I dove into the anime, finished East Blue, and rewatched the live-action, and I was like, 'this kinda sucks, how did i enjoyed it before?.' Now I get why some OG fans are so salty about it. Zoro in the live-action was trying too hard to be cool. I love Mackenyu but i don't like his portrayal of Zoro even before I got to watch the anime. I actually liked Sanji better in the live-action, but now he's my least favorite in the anime. Honestly, the live-action only worked because the story is so good. It's pretty bad overall, but I'm still gonna watch the new seasons cuz it's the reason I'm obsessed with One Piece now. It's my fave anime ever!
I hope they use this video as feedback to make a better season for one piece viewers. It had some problems some can be blamed to netflix for reducing episode counts.
Though for a first season attempt it is not bad but needs improvement as I have a lot of complaint but still more than passable just not amazing.
This why build up is important as it makes payoffs stronger as jumping to payoff without build up won't give it tjat oomph.
Overall excellent, it is nuance and well articulated, though i feel u still enjoyed just not as much as u hoped to the level of amazing but passable and needing improvement to make season 2 have less flaws
I have to say, you're the first person to comment that they like Usopp's arc so that's cool. Also I agree that coco village relationship was really downplayed especially nojiko and gen
I mean, this was about as good as you're going to get out of a live action version of a shonen anime. Live action and quirky shonen just don't mix that well.
I completely disagree honestly. If anything this series shows that quirky anime can have huuuuuge appeal in live action. It just suffers from alot of the problems most live action series suffer from. Bad dialogue, bad character writing, lackluster emotional scenes etc etc. just getting better writers would make this series a millions times better. This is not the best live action anime has to offer. Far from it Imo.
I thought I was alone in thinking there was significant lapses in character for the cast that really devalued the live action while otherwise there still was a lot of good. Though I do think that it at least showed that good live action adaptations can be made.
Love the video. Pretty accurate to how I feel about the LA. It has great potential but needs to focus more on the writing. Everything else i.e., the sets, the music, the feel, etc. is pretty much perfect. The actors are great, even Mackenyu, who lacks a Zoro-like voice but makes up for it in his swordplay. His fight scenes were the cleanest. He doesn't get to show his acting chops due to the weird characterization, but he does get one scene (waking up after the duel) and you can tell that he can act pretty well and was wasted in the series.
One thing I do disagree with you on is the "Magnificent" part. I do not believe Mihawk was mocking Zoro when he said it. In fact I was surprised you felt that way. In my opinion, he was being genuine but didn't want to totally drop his entire demeanor. It felt very nuanced when I saw it. I liked the Mihawk actor.
That said, the moments and flashbacks need to hit harder. The context behind the emotional beats must be fleshed out more. I think your video captures that shortcoming of the LA pretty well. I feel that these improvements are necessary for the series to go beyond a second season. The story, in the future, will need expert writing to flesh out the political and the larger narrative aspects it contains.
Also, we need better dialogue writing, not just in this show but in most of the shows being made nowadays. I hate the MCU cookie cutter wordplay.
how do you have Hachi 's story in the later in the series, without introducing Hachi? simple, you replace him with one of the other two fishmen they DID introduce. they were already interchangeable in the manga's arlong park arc
That just seems really bizarre, I wouldn't agree they're interchangeable, Hachi has a very specific personality and disposition that makes his change later work, although none of them were even characters in Live Action so if that's what you mean then I guess maybe it could work.
That's just not even correct. At most, you could say Chu and Kuroobi were interchangeable 'cuz they were both assholes, but Hachi is the "nice one", the ONLY one of them the arc makes sense for. Him giving that ride to Zoro didn't just get Zoro back to the SHs, it demonstrated that he doesn't actively hate humans like the other Fish-Men. This would be expanded upon with him giving the SHs an in with Shakky and Rayleigh, not to mention the only reason he helps the SHs in the first place being because he ALREADY felt bad for Nami and regretted taking over the village. Placing racist assholes Chu or Kuroobi in Hachi's position would just make things unnecessarily confusing and less believable.
I thought I was the only one who wasn't a fan of the LA portrayal of Mihawk. I was confused seeing so many people say he's identical to the manga. I mean, looks wise, yes, but personality wise? Not really. Hearing the dub in portuguese (my native language) helped a bit, he sounds sassy but doesn't sound as pompous. I don't think it was a bad change, its just that, personally, I prefer how he is in the source material.
It's decent, it's great how it's a milestone when it comes to western adaptation of an anime regards the localization and scale of One Piece. how they manage the casting is no doubt painstaking, how grounded they were as the pacing when it come to a live counterpart.
I'd rewatch the live action before I slog through the anime's dogshit pacing any day.
In fact I've rewatched the live action twice, while to this day I have never rewatched the One Piece anime, only clips of important moments. That's a testament of how much I think the anime wastes my time and how good I think the live action adaptation is.
The manga is still better than both though.
As bad as the pacing can be, at least the story is actually good lmao
If pacing is your only issue, the One Pace cuts will help :)
I disagree/don't have that big of a problem with most of the criticisms in this video,but it's nice to see someone bring their opinion and i hope season two can make you like it the same way i do.
🤔 I see your points but, as a one piece fan, I accept the live action for what it is, though not perfect, it's an interpretation of the source material.
😅 have you seen the yu yu hakushou adaptation? 😂
The scene in manga where Coby asks Luffy if he thinks he could be a marine and Luffy answers "How would I know?" to make him decide for himself and be "free" was cut.
Gen from Namis village also didnt want her to feel the villagers believed in her so he wanted her to feel more free, was also cut.
Basically no scenes of the Sun, which is important in the story.
Netflix writers basically passing by every little thing that's important for some of the characters
I agree with every point, they fudged the core of each characters arc and a lot of it felt like it only had to happen because of previous alterations, like a smudge across the whole season. Very disappointing, id love to see it recut and edited tho they wont, but there was so much else to love about it so I'm excited for season 2 and Vivi especially
Glad to see this video.
Idk how anyone could praise the live action, it just changes shit for no reason, and it follows the trend of anime to live action not working. But people probably praised this one because they're either:
A) The common One Piece fans that praise everything about it and would NEVER point out a flaw with something related to their "bible" lol
B) Someone who would NEVER watch One Piece because it's "too long" (dumb take of course) but wants to be like "Yeah One Piece is awesome, the Live Action is the definitive way to watch it" lmaooo
The Live Action One Piece is poop :(
Thank you
The live action has it's own interpretation so we should not expect it to be exactly what it's like on the source material. Overall people love it and that's what matters.
Nah peoples feelings towards it mean nothing, the only thing that matters is if it captures the artisic merits of the original, which it dosen't.
@@-tom-8720 people's feelings matter because it's also the reason why we'll be getting a 2nd season, and why Netflix is now investing more on One Piece.
I don't have any strong feelings about the live action (because I haven't watched it, nor do I want to tbh), but this point that you and some others spouted just puzzles me beyond believe.
There is zero indication in the video that Phenom aren't welcoming new changes or have problem with the show "having it's own interpretation"; he didn't expect it to be a 1 to 1 copy, hell he even somewhat criticize the show for having lines ripped straight from the source material (just with the context surrounding them significantly diminished).
His criticisms (and many many praises) are so on point that this _"don't expect it to be exactly like the source material"_ defense started to sound more like _"don't expect it to be as good as the source material"_ to me. Which would be a fair suggestion I suppose, but why even say it to someone who aren't doing such a thing in the first place?
@@shira_yone he was disappointed to a couple of characters in the live action (Roger, Coby, Garp, Zoro) and then compared it to the source material, I understand what he means but that's where I say it's gonna be too hard to make it exactly as the source material. He even said Mihawk in the live action ruined it when everyone thinnks it's better than the source material. Steve Maeda revealed they have 3 versions of OPLA, they have to reshoot because Oda didn't like the others. I don't know what they should have done and what else to tell you because 1. Oda himself is involved in the production 2. This is a 100 million dollar project and had to cover the whole east blue arc in just 8 episosdes, a lot of people where so skeptical but they made it work. It was successful. 3. you just said you didn't watch the live action so how can you even judge it overall?
@@D__634 where did I even judge the show? The only thing I was judging were people behavior, people whose deflection of the show's criticism seems to be _"just accept it for what it is"_ (which reads more and more like _"just consume the product"_ in my gradually less charitable opinion).
Phenom compared many things to the original NOT because he want it to be exactly like the source material, but to explain what substance was improved (like captain Kuro) and what was not because of the changes. As if it weren't clear enough, he doesn't have a problem with the show "having it's own interpretation"; he got a problem with it if those interpretation deserves criticism (i.e. of questionable quality).
It's honestly comical to me that people were essentially saying that Phenom can't criticise these aspects because of something he didn't even do, ironically maybe people should expect some criticisms to be uttered in a critique video essay.
Mixed bag of a series IMO. I think it got enough right that I can say it’s among the better live action adaptations of an anime, but eight episodes was really not enough to provide the kind of development that could have made this truly great. Garp in particular bothered me, and I definitely noticed how a number of major scenes didn’t hit as hard.
I mainly disagreed with you on Roger and Mihawk. I thought Roger's execution was amazing unless I'm missing some later context (I'm at Skypiea right now) Mihawk leaning more into the cock Spaniard duellist aspect of his character was pretty good in my opinion. I think if you have him acted out as the scary villain who respects strength he'll end up sounding pretty generic, though I didn't watch the anime so maybe he's amazing there. However the "Magnificent" clip you showed DID seem sarcastic when presented out of context so I could've been filling in from my manga memories for that part. I did agree that his presence felt very minimal in the live-action and rather forced.
One last thing unrelated to your points. I found it really distracting and occasionally confusing how you sometimes laid the manga panels from left to right when the dialog is still right to left like at 17:47
I did like it but do agree there were some big flaws. For me main one was Kobayashi village. I think it was because would seem awkward them being okay Nami sold herself. But there was like no other option left. People just think the marines could have helped when shown they wouldn't cause od Nazumi.
Not sure how accurate imdb is but says hachi was cast as well as episode 7 credits but... where. Maybe that angry Fishman during poker but didn't have budget to do proper Hachi.
I think exactly like you, +1 sub
The only bad thing about the movie was pacing which that can’t be helped and some lines are kinda weird trying to say it in a live action kinda made me cringe when luffy tells nami she’ll always be her friend it’s not perfect or anything but it’s a pretty decent adaptation
the hachi cut was budget unfortunately, they'löl have to retcon that later
they are going to cut Laboon for the same reasons they already confirmed it on Twitter.
@@snintendog When was that confirmed?
@@alberona9986 a while ago on Twitter they were talking set design again then they got questioned about crocus
@@snintendogdo u have the link or something abt that?
Actors cant act. They are phoney. Director cant make proper story or pacing or camera work
Zoro was butchered. I think Mackenyu is a very good actor but golly, they messed him up but you didnt address the BIGGEST issue for me
I would have been okay with him being "edgy" but he was always characterized by his will and determination. There are huge moments in the anime that prove this that were all cut out.
Zoro cuts himself vs Cabaji to prove that little wounds like that would never stop him. Later , despite the grave wound from Mihawk, he pushes on and defeats Hachi. I honestly dont get how they could even fathom cutting these 2 fights out. Its wild. They dont even have the wound bothering Zoro that much.
Then his backstory. They missed the entire point. Zoro goes full blown PSYCHO MODE in his training after Kuina dies. They not only failed to convey that but they cut almost all of it out.
I also really disliked Luffy as a character imo. Even tho hes a big fan, i really dont think Matt Owens carried a very deep understanding of these characters
I feel the same way about zoro
I'll just say that complaining about Mihawk vs Zoro (and Mihawk's character in general) is walking on the edge of being a hater of this Live Action...
51:00 Now PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN music...
I didn't like the set design to be honest too cartoony and clean it felt too goofy compared to the rest.
Damn I have never been so happy after disagreeing with soneone haha. I wsnt to yell back "no its great!"... But i cant. Well okayed sir haha
Because you are a special unicorn maybe .
29:00 HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON music.
PASA PORQUE ONE PIECE NO FUNCIONA EN IDIOTAS . SIMPLE
Finally someone said it. It was 6-6.5/10 adaptation, but everyone is treating this like it was the best thing in world.
Everyone of us has its own opinion and if they enjoyed it, they enjoyed it. You don't like it doesn't mean it was bad lol
It's one of the best adaptation of the anime compared to most live actions. And as wacky and absurd as One Piece is, they really did a great job translating it to a live action
@@mikayrose2 6-6.5/10 rating is not bad, it was good, does the job, not spectacular, the straw hat crew casting is perfect. OP fanbase wanted it to be good, it was good enough not the best.
The changes the LA made to the source material works sometimes works, sometimes does not. The main detriment to show is '8 episode' Netflix format, feels rushed, should have given little more time to explore the characters.
Regarding the nulber of episodes, I believe that they were planning to make 10 45min long episodes, and not 1h long. iirc that’s the case for many netflix shows that have 10 episodes, so I doubt the number of episodes would change anything at the end of the day
obviously your not a fan to say it you don't like...
I don't even know who you are.
SAME I DONT LIKE THE LIVE ACTION AT ALL..
i watched the anime before the live action but the live action is all out of place
whybig meat eatr in shanks crew man is white in anime but ni I mean browni in live actsion
I'm glad I didn't finish the live action. My disappointment would be tapped out.
One Piece Live Action was a mistake for the sole fact that they adapted a series that Oda was going to finish in that saga but now have decades of foresight from him and the writers to make a series that is so foreign to me that I couldn't finish 1 episode.
Brah. Stop trying to go against the grain and trying to be cool. It’s a W for anime live action. Get with the crowd my guy. It’s ok to be a follower when it comes to one piece.
“Get with the crowd” lmaoooo ur telling bro to be a mindless sheep? Just enjoy what the masses r enjoying even tho it has glaring flaws? u sound like the type to wait for ur friends to give their opinion on sumn so u can agree with them. No individuality 😂😂😂
@@kingmanga8575 No I hate sheep mentality. But when it comes to One Piece I find that mentality a good thing.
Bro, the live action is trash
@@animekingdom4918 your opinion isn’t a fact.