I agree because if it weren’t for real life heroes throughout history, the world wouldn’t have it’s most inspired creations and people but sadly nowadays everyone is so corrupted and greedy not caring about anyone but themselves to get what they want. That’s the sad truth about society nowadays
@@dream6562 yes and no (especially with Zack Snyder). It’s an oversimplification to say superheroes have become dark and edgy. With Batman and Daredevil, I agree; but with someone like Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, etc., especially in the Snyder Cut of JL, we explore what makes them tick, what REAL human issues they’re dealing with… For example, Arthur Curry is born from a forbidden relationship, Atlantis and humanity. Neither world accepts him (especially Atlantis - a racist brutal race). Hell I’m born from a white father and Japanese mother, and I can relate (especially being born from Tokyo but will forever be know to the Japanese as a “gaijin”, an outsider). So of course he’s gonna be a drifter without a purpose who only cares at the bare minimum. I certainly do not mind the “realistic” elements of superheroes because we are all going through our own issues. Our heroes do too. When I see a “dark edgy” interpretation I try to see past what some call edgy and try to see the humanizing elements of our heroes. (However I will agree to an extent, ie; HBO Max’s Titans series; it’s a drastic imbalance from the colorful yet mature Titans I remember from the cartoon and the comics)
@@EricGraham94 idk I think a reason the snyderverse never took off, at least o n e reason was, is that they got superman wrong, he can do anything but he chooses to be good, that's the subversion, if people try to make him flawed or be like omni man and Homelander then they are missing the point of his character
@@dream6562 but what fundamentally makes a character rootable is their humanity, their inherent flaws. In MOS Clark barely started off as Superman and was barely getting the hang of saving as many people as he can and defeating the Kryptonians. In BVS, he’s better adept at saving people, but he’s still haunted by his failures and the consequences from MOS. He was still living with the idea that he’s not gonna be able to save NOR satisfy everyone’s expectations of him. By ZSJL, after his resurrection, he’s better balanced and synthesizing both his human and Kryptonian sides (hell when he dons the black suit, it’s similar to how Luke donned all black after learning from failure, becoming wiser and not so naive, and becoming more confident and powerful) But that’s just me [shrugs] I hear what you’re saying, but inherently, what makes a character rootable - especially a heroic protagonist - is their flaws
Superman is meant to inspire people to be the best they can be, and to show that no matter where you come from you can be a good person. Its not his powers that make Superman special its his humanity even despite being from a different planet he was raised by a loving family in Kansas and that love he took and tries to give to complete strangers.
Superman is Absolutely Interesting. There is something rather compelling about a being who is possessed with such _almighty_ power who isn’t corrupted by it. Superman needs to be done right on the big screen.
@@epicjonny155 And the worst part is that that’s a bad characterization for Batman too. He’s not good because he’s dark and gritty, he’s good despite the fact that the world around him IS dark and edgy.
I think the most ideal criticism of Superman can be summarized by a quote from the Green Goblin. "The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they'll hate you. Why bother?"
“Dreams save us. Lift us up and transform us. And on my soul…I swear until my dreams of a world where dignity, honor, and justice becomes the reality we all share, I’ll never stop fighting. Ever” - Superman In society, people seem to reject upon those who value altruism, seeming them as naïve, but I always perceived it with as a way to shape and build a positive community, welcoming those who would help and need help from other people. That was the whole point of Lex Luthor as Superman's villain, as someone once stated, "We're all becoming Lex Luthors", representing upon people embracing upon their assumptions that the world and everyone living are equally ugly and worthless scumbags; that it’s all about who gains and who doesn’t; and let our own ego go wild as such. To idealize upon that people can always be able to pass on hope onto to others which a small act of kindness is all it takes to do it, and that's literally how the Kents' raised a literal alien to be who he is; more human that anyone can ever be.
Superman vs the Elite a good underrated movie, But you’re right I mean you know it’s bad when a alien from outer space can be more human with how people are nowadays to each other even to children only caring about themselves being corrupted and greedy.
@Tanner Hutchings I never said all humanity is like that but people nowadays, They enjoy hurting and killing others especially children just to get what they want
@Tanner Hutchings Yes, not everyone is like that and no one is saying that everyone is, but OP and InvestedGman are saying that the foreseeable *majority* are.
I hate it when people view as a perfect being, a god, but I hate it when they dehumanize him, a monster. I love it when he’s viewed not as a god or a monster, but as Superman, an immigrant with powers and uses them to help people, who struggles and fails but gets back up
Honestly if I lived in a universe with beings like Doomsday, a being that if they die, they just come back immune to whatever killed them, Superman would be a first priority for me
Today, I read the first part of Superman: Secret Identity, and albeit its not technically the Clark Kent we know, he perfectly captures the loneliness that comes with being Superman, and he goes through his self journey all by himself. He truly presents human in superhuman
The world didn't need superman, just a brave one -Superman Everytime I hear that line by Superman, I always cry. EVERYTIME on the death of Daniel Turpin.
I was definitely one of the many people who said superman was boring but over the last couple months I've been reading some of his stories most recently rebirth and he is probably the most important superhero ever created he has such strong power and all he wants is to be a good man, husband, and father its breathtaking
Oh stfu, I have read All-Star, For All Seasons, Byrne's run, Geoff's run and many more issues here and there, Superman is really not that complex or interesting of a character. He works as a simple archetype I guess? But as a character, he's EXTREMELY simple and not in a good way, from a character conflict standpoint he's like a 6/10. Like I think The Doctor is pretty much Superman, but done right. Everything good you can say about Superman, you can say about the Doctor, but the difference is that the Doctor actually has a character flaw which is actually relevant to the story.
@@tananatana4011 Look fool, that really all depends on how Superman is written. Dwayne McDuffie certainly did him right when he used to write for Justice League TAS/Unlimited back then.
Superman is boring and the cca had a lot to do with his popularity. Sci-fi and horror comics where big before the cca. Superman got lucky cause all the bible thumpers chose him as the "safe" comic. Superman is a fraud, DC sued captain marvel, did everything it could to dominate the competition. Heck they even did a Popeye parody after the publisher of Popeye said they didn't want to just to make superman the winner. It's a slap in the face when they "hint" that Popeye has a drug problem. That is who superman is a corporate lap dog for the establishment. Funk you superman fanboys for what you guys did to my hero. Popeye the sailor man.
@@gak1146 this had better be a joke calling SUPERMAN a corporate lap dog when his greatest enemy is a Fucking corrupt billionaire if you really believe that cynical view of the first superhero piss off.
I used to be a dirtbag teen that thought Superman was boring but I've grown to really appreciate who he is and what he stands for. He's an ideal, he's what we all want to live up to. (Granted this was DCeased when Jon was Superman but..) When Superman told Constantine he was a good man right before Constantine saved the world and Constantine said something like "I don't think that's true but it means a lot hearing that from Superman", that's so powerful. Having that one character that we all know is the best of us and makes us want to be the best of ourselves, that's not boring.
I think Superman is a lesson on the nature of power. The limits of power. The need, the absolute ever-present need, for empathy. The power of unashamedly, passionately striving to do good at every turn.
Ultimately, Superman is pure positivity, and hope. He is the personalization of the indomitable human spirit. That even in the face of all inevitable doom, you stare back and say, "But I'm going to try anyway." When the rest of the world is full of cynics and pessimists, or even if it's your own internal thoughts and demons, who constantly plague your mind with the question, "What if you fail?", Superman represents the rebuttal to that questions: "But what if I succeed?"
As a kid I didn’t really care for Superman because I related and loved Spider-Man more. I’m a older young man and I can understand him and other characters and I’m truly starting to love Superman.
They find him boring because they can't see in him what they like to see, that does not make him boring, and most of the reasons and arguments I heard and saw people say and show are what is really boring and lame. Want to know something funny? Current people think that Superman is boring because they think he does not struggle and is not relatable and there is no drama and hardships... What is funny is the irony, that Superman was made by the very people who were going through real drama, life struggles and where in development and these people who were struggling were, or at least trying to relate to Superman.
This is a great video that shows an understanding of Superman and how he really isn't boring. Superman is the greatest superhero of all time, not because of his powers, but how he chooses to use them to help people because he cares. His greatest strength is his humanity which he learned from being raised on Earth by 2 loving parents. This shows that Superman's humanity and compassion comes from humanity itself. We will never have the powers of Superman, but we have the same capacity for good that Superman does and Superman does inspire us to act on our good nature. The world needs Superman now more than ever. 🦸♂️
Doomsday Clock is another great example of what makes Superman great. Dr. Manhatten A man turned into a god disassociated with humanity regains it with his encounter with a God raised to be man. True poetry. Dr. Manhattan with all his power his ability to just vaporize Clark, he can’t destroy his ideals or inspiration of hope so he vanishes and scarifies himself to give his world a Clark. Even Lex understands this at the end of The Last Knight and gives the world a new Superman after sacrificing himself. Superman is fucking awesome.
I’m so thankful that some people are actually smart enough to realize the brilliance of Superman cause it always makes me mad when people dumb Superman down to an overpowered pure person
What else is Superman? Without his powers I mean we’re talking about a reporter. Superman isn’t a dumb character at all just a boring one. I think he was made great for his time period when he was made in the 1940’s I believe, but times have changed. It went from giving a lot of powers to a single character to training and earning what you get. People can relate to working hard and grinding to be on top, dbz, one piece, my hero academia, naruto, especially Batman the only reason dc is relevant to me is because of Batman!!!! Amazing shows like this can last 20, 30, 40 years plus because of the incredible storylines and character developments that happens, Superman doesn’t, and haven’t changed a lot and in my opinion over the years that’s why he’s stuck in the mud. They’ve tried to change things a bit it just hasn’t worked.
@@quintbakerjr2786 There are other ways of inspiring people, and in Superman's case he shows us the best parts of humanity and inspires us to become the best version of ourselves. Plus, there are plenty of stories where Superman is challenged at all levels (physical, emotional, etc) and he has to work hard to surpass them just like any other character.
@@gael.7593 That’s great but that doesn’t sell in movies or comics or tv shows which is why Batman is dc’s only headliner!!! Superman is a great character but if it was that easy supes would have a movie out every week, he doesn’t provide hard work and action, great adversaries and or storylines in my opinion. Good character just to much power not enough work to earn it.
@@quintbakerjr2786I think you’re missing the point here, Superman is more than just his powers. It’s what he does with them, unlike Batman who sticks to his mindset, Superman knows that there’s always room to improve as a person. Superman’s struggle isn’t physical, it’s mental.
@@Rhetoricalquestion-m6c That makes no sense and you can’t sell that in theaters. You can sell Batman in theaters, no matter what the situation, you can’t with supes without his powers he’s Clark Kent no one is paying to see Clark Kent. This is a business it’s about making money Batman does it in movies comics tv shows and more can’t say the same about Superman
@@gak1146 I’m pretty sure your a bot lol I don’t see how he’s a Mary Sue Characters can’t be Mary Sues just as a character, “Mary Sue”ness comes about via bad writing. You could write a story about a god who could do anything But as long as there is some sacrifice, difficult choices, and painful experiences in order to get what they want/do what they need to do They aren’t a Mary Sue
What sacrifice? He's a Mary Sue. I'm not a bot I hate superman and his fanboys. So I ask again what sacrifice? He still has his powers right? He can beat everyone else even 4th and 5th demonsion beings. Remember how all you fan boys wanked off cause he punched the world forger and knocked him on his ass. Superman fanboys love to bring that up. I hate superman and I'm glad his books don't sell he was below 80s in sales only one that hit 25 was a batman tie-in. 😂
"Nobody wants to look up to you, Superman. They don't want to strain their necks." It's a hard line between loving Superman, and hating his haters. If you know where that quote is from, you're a legend. If not, I'll tell you if you ask. Point is, I've met many people who think Superman is boring, and that basically shows that they have Lex's mentality.
@@vilstef6988 I agree. However, I got a separate problem. My problem is I end up hating them as individuals, and that can lead to a self-destructive mental state.
Not once did I ever find Superman boring. His very story from his reason for being sent to Earth, to his overwhelming strength, to his sense of justice and duty for others, etc. Certainly a timeless character.
You've been lucky, then. Superman doesn't have to be boring, but it's also easy to make him boring, especially if you feel obligated to include the world's biggest superhero in your story but don't really want to. There are interesting Supermen, but also boring ones.
Only people who doesn't understand Superman would call him boring. Those are the people who actually believe that Superman's greatest weakness is kryptonite instead of his heart
@@luciusnguyen2449 ...unless that Superman was written by someone who doesn't understand Superman. Which is extremely common. I dunno why I care so much about pointing this out, but Superman isn't a monolith. Action Comics #1 Superman is not New Adventures of Superman Superman is not Christopher Reeves Superman is not Alan Moore Superman is not DCAU Superman is not Lego Superman is not Snyder Superman, but for better or for worse, they're all Superman. For better and for worse.
the first superhero can't be boring, he's the personification of hope people often compare him to Captain America, but personally i always saw him as DC's own Spiderman, two kids who were living normal lives until they suddenly became upon a power like no other, who used their surrogate parents' teachings as his life philosophy, protecting everyone who can't protect themselves against everything not because they have to, but because they can, they love this place and everyone who lives here, so they'll give their everything to preserve what they love Superman isn't a Super that hides as a man, he's a man who just so happens to be Super
I agree with this I figured out 6 years of Superman material that there was definitely more similarities between Spider-Man and Superman than I realized.
I've been learning a lot about Superman lately, and I've figured out that in a good Superman story, he may be a Kryptonian, but he's still human. IMO Superman can be a really great character, but alot of writers don't know how to write that, and instead of focusing on him and him as a person, they focus on his power and nothing else. In a good Superman story, he's strong, but kind. Powerful, but gentle. I'm not even a fan, and even I know that.
The best comment I read was when someone said “If Superman doesn’t come off as a Boy-scout, then you’re writing him wrong” which I absolutely agree with. Superman’s character shines when his relationship with others are explored, his choices and how is moral choices affect him is when you see that behind his powers and cape, Superman is just a genuinely good man. Like, Superman is the nice guy that most nice guys think they are.
Yea, his best stories was when he saves a girl from jumping off a building (When he himself was dying and can't afford to waste time) or when he spends time with a random kid hanging out with him and helping him with his bike or when he helps an abused kid and gives the kid a phone so he can call Superman when he needs help. But much like Man of Steel they just turn him into McPunchy and paints him as Jesus.
@@somerandomguy7325 eh, depends who's writing them. The version in the DCAU does well with it since they start out with a distaste for each other, one for the threat the other poses, the other for the fact he uses threats to deal with problems, but over time they grow to respect each other, and even develop a good rapport between the two of them. They're friend from work, but while at work they manage to have a good time doing it.
Surprised more people don't like superman because he's "Overpowered" when so many anime protagonists and characters that people love are... "Overpowered" too. Just goes to show both that people can join in on a bandwagon of hate, AND that Superman does deserve better writers, at the very least on the big screen
@@wixchnijiinut lol nice joke but Thor isn’t perfect as he had to learn how to be humble after being cast out of Asgard. Another thing is Thors rouges gallery can actually hurt him which doesn’t make Thor overpowered. 99 percent of Superman’s villains can’t actually hurt Superman or they are given the same power set just to match him. Saying thor sounds like Superman is awful. Another thing thor is a god Superman is just a alien. By default thor, and any character who is a god should automatically be above Superman by default in dc.
@@robertrainford6754 superman villains can't hurt superman? Bro this you know everything about superman 🤣 1. Superman also has many weaknesses including kryptonite magic and the red sun that is how to kill him what about thor? 2. you said superman's villains can't hurt him wtf 🤣 darkseid brainiac doomsday general zod this guy can fuck superman if there want or even superman can't be killed True, but the one thing he could never touch was Lex Luthor intelligence 3.Yes, you said that Thor is god and Superman is just alien, but Superman has responsibility for the loss of his home planet since his birth, Raised by two farmers, he is more human than anyone else and must keep his secret identity 4.Thor comes from Norse mythology, where he exists as both dc and marvel But thor in marvel, his position is superman, That's something you can't deny, If measured according to comics, hulk and thor will be the ones who carry the team, Especially Thor who fights Magog 5. Even though Superman is perfect in every way, But there was one more thing he was missing, It is trying to adapt to humans 6.I'm not asking thor is above superman🤭
There was a time where I did come agree how Superman in comparison to others hero’s is boring, but with the popularity of Invincible and the Boys, I’ve grown to truly appreciate Superman both as an idea and as a character. He’s someone that had stand the passage of time, and hopefully continues to do so.
Love this, it’s so easy to be so caught up on the powers Superman has that we forget the soul within Clark that goes beyond the pressures he endures, most people want someone relatable because not only to not feel alone but to help believe they can raise as well, but looking at someone that is so inspiring can help us be reminded that there’s someone can be this good, it’s possible to be this good, and that life isn’t as dark as it seems.
Superman is and always has been my favorite superhero. thank you for making this, Sage's Rain. Superman is the hero we all need, now more than anything in this cynical world we know
@@leonrobinson8180nah that's a cop out because we've been able to make literally every other superhero look great, including Iron Man. Directors just don't get his character and try to change it
Superman isn't boring, he just has a bad habit of being written by people who don't like him. My favorite take on Superman is one TH-cam video that called him Clark Kent's customer service voice. I think that's the most interesting thing about him-the fact that Kal is _Clark Kent_ behind his non-existent mask, that he doesn't really care for the glory and honor of being the world's greatest hero.
@Tanner Hutchings Believe it or not, it's possible to read Superman and not get him. For better and for worse, Superman doesn't wear his interesting themes on his sleeve. ("Truth, Justice, and the American Way" is one theme he DOES wear on his sleeve, but it's also the most boring thing about him.)
After watching My Adventures with Superman, I’m relieved to see a Superman who’s helpful and a bright light, and flawed. He’s not boring, because he’s imperfect
I am so glad to see panels from Superman Smashes the Klan in here. It doesn't have any gigantic overarching universe ending plotline, but it's one of the most powerful Superman stories out there. 100% worth the read!
The immigrant from the stars is just so amazing because he was raised and inspired by us. He's not the Super Kryptonian, he's the Superman because Earth is his home now and he's here to stay.
Your ending words to this video are exactly what I needed to hear. In a world where Superheroes are becoming darker and edgier, with people clamouring for deconstructions of characters - Superman is a hero that's meant to inspire and show us how good we can be. The reason Superman and Spider-Man will always be relevant is because of this idea that these incredibly powerful and incredibly busy heroes have time to talk someone down from suicide or to save a cat from a tree. We need heroes like that. Especially now
@@logicaltips4107 No, unfortunately. I would love to write one, but I'm still devising what that would look like beyond "deconstructionist" heroes being exposed as villainous (or, at the least incompetent at this whole "hero" thing). I am considering nihilistic, edgy, pseudo-"realistic" heroes ultimately being defeated by actual heroes, but that would require immaculate writing to pull off and not be cringy or preachy.
People who call superman "boring" have never actually consumed a superman story outside of the man of steel movie. Superman's literal biggest enemy is Lex Luthor a normal human with simply high intelligent and wealth. And the reason why despite all the powerful creatures superman has battled like lobo or Darkseid, lex is his arch-nemsis is because of the thematic contrast between the two. Superman represents a symbol of hope, justice and ultimate power while Lex represents corruption, corporate synergy and injustice. Superman uses his powers for good by virtue of his morally right upbringing while Lex is obsessed with superman's power creating machinery to replicate and compete only furthering his corruption and descendant into madness. Lex is the president in some stories which holds good faith for the people while Superman is the hero of justice also holding faith and hope for the people and when the two sides clash, in a good superman story it is a thematic clash not just a physical one. Despite Superman being an Alien he always showed great humility while Lex depsite being human acts above everyone and almost un-human like how he looks down on everyone even at times competing with superman physically(mainly due to kryptonite) This is only one aspect of superman its not even taking into account his personal life as Clark and balancing superman or his dichotomy between other Justice League members especially his complex contrast with Batman or even his homeworld's lore and history such as supergirl.
Superman is still boring after everything you said. But you can like him we all have different opinions, however superman will never be as iconic as he was befote
That's not true. I consumed Superman media years before it and I thought he was boring. In fact it was Man of Steel that made me realize how interesting he is. And I know I'm not alone in that regard
I like how you described both Superman and Lex Luthor's philology and what they represents with Superman represents the good in humanity and has a sense of justice that he wants to help people because it's the right thing to do, meanwhile Lex Luthor represents the worst in humanity, he's a corrupted billionaire, he has a huge ego, and he committed horrible crimes just to get what he wants, that's why they're both arch-nemesis.
People love Homelander for the following reasons: He's an "evil" version of Superman. But let's break it down on what makes him this version of Superman. - With all the power in the world, he does virtually what he wants with little to no remorse. - He's narcissistic. - He lacks a support system/love which resulted in a lack of morals an insecurity. - Despite his status, he's never TRIED to truly put his powers to the test. - He does a shitty job holding back his powers and lashes out whenever he wants. - instead of showing ingenuity when he meets his match, he tried to hide it and is afraid of not being top dog. - he's a force that puts protagonist in high risk situations. With all this said, people should realize that Superman is a DEEP character because of the points above. - Superman with all his godlike powers, is humanities greatest defenders because of a simple, normal family in a farm teach him right from wrong, love and support and making him not ashamed of what he is. Nuture being such a powerful thing. - He has all the power in the world, but him being in danger is not the focus, his goal to save someone is the focus. - Because he wants to save someone? He has to limit his powers to not break someone or something. (World Made of Cardboard) - he loves among humans, as a normal guy. A bumbling clumsy guy at that. And people take advantage of someone like that. That tests Superman. Because he's seeing some potential ugliness in the people he tries to save when he could sqaush them like a fucking bug. Huge restraint. - When Superman bleeds against a foe, now you have his to consider. And if he goes? Alot more souls will follow but he will still press forward. Superman ain't boring. People's perceptions of Superman in modern day? Are boring.
I think the reason Superman gets a bad rep as a character is because its hard to imagine someone as powerful as him being as virtuous, which tells more about our society than Superman as a character. The decline of his popularity reflects the grimmer view we have on society compared to earlier days. As much as I don't like Iron Man as a character, I think part of his appeal is that he starts out as a rich jerk with power. So following his journey of becoming a better person feels relatively more real. We really need more superman in our lives.
Superman is a normal nice guy who just so happen to have god-like power. You think that it wouldn't be that hard to write, but people get caught up in the power part of it I suppose. In an episode of STAS, they think that Clark Kent is "dead" from a car bomb, and he is terrified at the prospect of being Superman 24/7 and straight up says he can't do it.
I absolutely adore you for making this video, Superman is one of my biggest heroes. Even if I'm not even a "superman", I'm still trying to be the best man I can be, and make the best choices I can for others, like he would. Thank you so much again for this video ❤
One of the biggest things done wrong in 2013’s Man of Steel (in my opinion of course) is how Pa Kent died; Clark could have easily saved him and others without tipping anyone off about his powers. It would have been much more powerful and made more sense for him to have died in a way that Clark couldn’t have helped, like a heart attack as in the 1978 movie. It would have driven home that he can’t save everyone. Zack Snyder tells stories like a six-year-old.
I personally think Superman is less about hope and more about humanity. He should be relatable, deal with very real human issues, like alienation or impostor syndrome. He needs to be a likable character. And if you want to do him well in film, you should give him a flat character arc. His values should be challenged rather than changed. I like a Superman that can lift buildings but helps an old lady cross the seat.
*I feel like I can relate to Superman more than any other comic character* I’ve been insecure about who I am before - which resulted in me trying to be someone else - trying to be someone else (Clark Kent as an example) playing to a persona - made me awkward af.. cos what you are and what you’re trying to be are conflicted.. in reality - - being yourself - - is the best advice you’ll ever get.
I think this why I've come to like Superman and Ultraman is that they are symbols of hope despite looking and acting different. Both are symbols of hope because despite the failures or desperate situations they still do good
Like everything else Superman can be bogged down by either bad adaptions or dare I say it even bad comic storylines and I think that sort of thing is what really ruined the character for a lot of people. For me personally it took a portrayal that I liked for me to come around to see his character in a positive light. With that said though I think it’s totally fine to thinks he’s boring, under all the flowery language about hope and the future there are things about him that are unappealing to people and you just have to accept that.
I think the movies that made him a soulless alien character that made his character boring for people which is sad that an amazing character is done dirty
Other way around for me. Man of Steel showed me that he still has room to grow. Shows like Justice League Unlimited made him seem like Mr. Perfect at a first glance. Death Battle sure as hell didn't help his perception to the public.
@@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646 Yeah, honestly despite its flaws, I really liked _Man of Steel_ because it showed us what having beings like Superman would actually be like, in terms of how destructive a fight between two beings of Superman caliber could be. Along with the fact that it shows us a Superman who actually has to struggle to use his powers, that he doesn't get perfect control of his powers and sees the consequences of it. Do you get what I mean?
I had always thought of Superman as being lame and very much overrated. Then I started watching The Boys and started really appreciating someone w these powers who doesn't choose inhumane evil. Also,this video helped to understand Superman so thank you :)
Thank you sage for making this video. It just really pains me to see so many people call superman boring, and it pains me even more to see that most of the people who say that have only ever seen him in the films which do not paint an accurate representation of his character. In a world that seems to get more and more chaotic, depressing, and nihilistic, we need a character like superman more than ever. Theres a good reason he's the prototype superhero, there's a good reason that big S on his chest is so iconic. The true superman exists to show us and to prove to us that we as individuals and as a society are capable of more and can always strive to be better. Superman shows us what it truly means to be a hero. It isn't about just punching bad guys really hard, or looking cool. Being a hero is really about inspiring others, standing up for whats right and for what you believe in, being a hero means to uplift others and to save people sometimes even from themselves. Superman taught me all of that, and I hope more people start to truly appreciate why we need a symbol of hope like him
@Tanner Hutchings Henry cavill is a great actor and was good casting but unfortunately the writing for his version of superman was not good and misses the point of his character. I do hope he gets another chance to get the character right though
A farmboy raised by middle class parents who instilled him with morals and values that teach him to save people with his gifts. A man working in a large city as a reporter while building relationships with co-workers. Someone trying to help as many as he can while balancing his own life. A man wondering what his life would've been like with his birth parents, but grateful for the life and parents he ended up with. How is he less relatable than a billionaire living the same tragic night constantly in his head while isolating his true self from society?
people would say superman is boring then praise Shigeshi from Mob Psycho 100 for being an interesting character My brother in Christ they are the same fucking character
I love your analysis that Superman's greatest importance isn't about him testing his powers, it's about testing his humanity. Superman is the absolute good in all of us, yet he just like anyone will face issues where he will be defeated every day by others who disagree with him and may even as others do today write him off as a boring good boy with nothing of substance. The truth is that Superman's greatness has never come from his powers, his greatness comes from being human in spite of his powers and in spite of others finding him to not be "Superman" It's kinda like saying why the world is still screwed up when Superman could fix it all, when the truth is that no one can fix that as to do so would be beyond human, issues do not come from the world, they come from people and people no matter how amazing will always have flaws, and Superman is just like any other person in this regard and yet he still chooses to see a world where we can be better and we can fix these issues. We just have to know that even when fixed those issues will still arise and it's important to stay strong and find reason within ourselves, find Superman in us.
Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. They happened to be Jewish and the character premiered in the 1930s when a certain someone in Germany was rising in power. I doubt that that was a coincidence.
I love superman and my favorite moment is clark kent lois lane and my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self going on fun adventures especially seeing Lois lane protecting her son Jon Kent fighting the eradicator with the hellbat armor is really awesome and badass.
People forget, she is Spider-Man, but she’s also just a KID. She’s LEARNING, growing up, as all kids must. She’s finally learned what Spider-Man TRULY is, what the suit MEANS. I will forever quote Pete in the Edge of Time game, “What’s important is NOT standing by and allowing someone to suffer or DIE because you do NOTHING! If you don’t get that, then you don’t get the first thing about being Spider-Man.” Fittingly enough, it’s Miguel that Pete says that to, teaching him that Spider-Man is about doing the RIGHT thing in the face of fear rather than standing by and watching others suffer because of it.
Superman is my 2nd favorite hero of all time right behind Green Lantern. He has helped me be who I am today and I think that everyone can take something from him no matter who you are.
I want a Superman movie.. based around that one comic “ Superman and the jumper” no big action set pieces, so fights, just Clark trying to save ONE person. Just one.
Once again, Sage's Rain reminds me (despite I already knowing) and many others, that Superman is not boring, Superman is interesting and simply incredible.
Loved the essay! Homelander in the Boys series is the dark version of superman which makes me value the influence of superman`s father Jonathan Kent (especially as portrayed in the Superman: Man of Steel) in preparing him to develop a philosophy or paradigm to synthesize and cope with the pressure and responsibilities that come with such power. Homelander did not have such a figure in his life and we can all see the effects.
Saying homelander is the dark/ evil version of superman is the most surface level thinking I've ever seen there's a reason many are regarding him as one of the best villains in tv history and its not because he's "dark superman" that's an insult to the writing of the character because he's quite more than that
@@teonnechapman1420 why do you think homelander turned out the way he did? If he had an upbringing similar to Clark, would he end he have turned out that way?
@@Thus_said I'm not talking about how he grew up the point of my comment was to critique you for saying that homelander is dark/ evil superman when his character is much more that and is so much more complex than your simplification
I'm tired of the hipsters that are like "SuPerMaN iS bOriNg CuZ hE HaS nO FLaWs". Like, #1 yeah he does have flaws, don't over-simplify him, and #2 if you actually look into Superman's struggles and what he puts up with he is far from boring. Superman is a classic hero archetype, don't pretend like these new-age superheroes or rewritten characters are better. Maybe people should reflect more on Superman's stories to figure out why he became such a popular character in the first place.
Superman may not be the most greatest or complicated hero, but hes one that has created great memories that will last generations to come. Good day to you Mr. Rain
Depends what you mean by _greatest_ I measure _greatness_ in relation to your *Impact and influence.* And Superman definitely is the most influential character in comic books, and the superhero genre:
In the last issue of Superman Adventures he was willing to sacrifice himself to save Livewire and almost died his if it wasn't for her saving him in return,he was willing to save Livewire his enemy who hated him in every electrolyte she had yet he chose to help her despite the hatred she had for him... Superman is a true hero born out of love not revenge not from the sins of the past nor guilt just love and willpower He is a true hero,he really is🦸🏻✊
Anyone who thinks Superman is boring is a basic fan. He is everything a hero SHOULD represent. Every thing a hero should strive to be. He may not be as “cool” as certain heroes, but in terms of pure heroism, he is the standard. Strong, compassionate, faithful, resilient, and humble.
Superman isn't boring per say, hell, he's got a simple but super cool premise. It's just that so many authors or directors end up reiterating and making his character... I dunno, predictable? Overly simplistic? A simple, easy to follow and understand hero is totally fine, and hell, sometimes it's refreshing just to have a regular, average story for a superhero, truly. I dunno, I guess what I'm trying to say is; maybe it's just that they gotta hit all the aspects of the guy well enough tbh. Cause if not, it's like "oh, Superman ALONE is about to throw hands and its gonna be a wash" at this point, what's the point of the Justice League surrounding him?
Superman is the greatest superhero When Written right. Clark is a very important character and very easy to do badly unlike Batman. You ask everybody what is Batman you will get a different answer because everybody has a different interpretation of Batman. With Superman most people have the same answer. Truth and Justice, the big blue boy scout. A man with amazing powers who uses those powers to save a cat out of a tree. Using his worlds to stop threats
Superman: The Best Version of Humanity, Down to his core. The MAN With the strength to bring Justice, But the Kind heart To use it to bring about Peace.
When I was like 12, I use to never like Superman just cause he beats Goku☠️. But I then realized that he does. I also watched alot of analysis videos and I get why people like him so much. I actually really want some Superman content. He seems like the kind of character that I would really like. Hopefully Hollywood figures out how to make a faithful movie for him.
as a Superman fan Im sick and tired of people disrespecting him and saying he's boring crazy to me that a character that genuinely loves to do good gets flamed on and Im tired of the evil superman trope as well enough already what does it say in our society where characters like batman is praised more then hopeful characters like superman that just want to do good
People that say Superman is boring are very evious, they think that people put him above all others. They feel that a God powerful being would drive attention away from them and therefore they envy him. In order to love Superman we must be humble, we must be like him and not only him, but like every good person we know. It's funny, Superman is the most powerful human and still, he is the most humble one, he just wants a simple and happy life, nothing more. I love Superman and i am not ashamed to say it, i've cried so many times reading his stories and i am proud to say it. Superman was influencing my life even when i disliked him. He taught me how to be humble, how to love others, how to help others and how to be better, and he will always do it. Batman and Superman, my All Time Favorite Heroes.
Before this even starts, I'm recommending Superman vs The Elite animated film and the comic panels of Superman/Shazam: FT where he learns Billy Batson is a kid.
what are your thoughts on Superman?
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He's a pretty chill man
The best representation that a hero should be. There is a reason he is remembered even when he was created since the 1940's.
He is my favorite hero and so many people don't understand his character which is just sad.
He is gay
HES THE GOAT
The world needs super man now more then ever, I think people are beginning to forget why we made superheroes in the first place
To be dark and edgy
I agree because if it weren’t for real life heroes throughout history, the world wouldn’t have it’s most inspired creations and people but sadly nowadays everyone is so corrupted and greedy not caring about anyone but themselves to get what they want. That’s the sad truth about society nowadays
@@dream6562 yes and no (especially with Zack Snyder). It’s an oversimplification to say superheroes have become dark and edgy. With Batman and Daredevil, I agree; but with someone like Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, etc., especially in the Snyder Cut of JL, we explore what makes them tick, what REAL human issues they’re dealing with…
For example, Arthur Curry is born from a forbidden relationship, Atlantis and humanity. Neither world accepts him (especially Atlantis - a racist brutal race). Hell I’m born from a white father and Japanese mother, and I can relate (especially being born from Tokyo but will forever be know to the Japanese as a “gaijin”, an outsider). So of course he’s gonna be a drifter without a purpose who only cares at the bare minimum.
I certainly do not mind the “realistic” elements of superheroes because we are all going through our own issues. Our heroes do too. When I see a “dark edgy” interpretation I try to see past what some call edgy and try to see the humanizing elements of our heroes.
(However I will agree to an extent, ie; HBO Max’s Titans series; it’s a drastic imbalance from the colorful yet mature Titans I remember from the cartoon and the comics)
@@EricGraham94 idk I think a reason the snyderverse never took off, at least o n e reason was, is that they got superman wrong, he can do anything but he chooses to be good, that's the subversion, if people try to make him flawed or be like omni man and Homelander then they are missing the point of his character
@@dream6562 but what fundamentally makes a character rootable is their humanity, their inherent flaws. In MOS Clark barely started off as Superman and was barely getting the hang of saving as many people as he can and defeating the Kryptonians. In BVS, he’s better adept at saving people, but he’s still haunted by his failures and the consequences from MOS. He was still living with the idea that he’s not gonna be able to save NOR satisfy everyone’s expectations of him. By ZSJL, after his resurrection, he’s better balanced and synthesizing both his human and Kryptonian sides (hell when he dons the black suit, it’s similar to how Luke donned all black after learning from failure, becoming wiser and not so naive, and becoming more confident and powerful)
But that’s just me [shrugs]
I hear what you’re saying, but inherently, what makes a character rootable - especially a heroic protagonist - is their flaws
Superman is meant to inspire people to be the best they can be, and to show that no matter where you come from you can be a good person. Its not his powers that make Superman special its his humanity even despite being from a different planet he was raised by a loving family in Kansas and that love he took and tries to give to complete strangers.
@@Stillonyx You yes
No matter where you come from??
Dude’s from a planet where anyone exposed to a yellow sun suddenly becomes a living god
@@Licjr and?
Superman represents open borders.
@@Licjr Jealous?
Superman is Absolutely Interesting.
There is something rather compelling about a being who is possessed with such _almighty_ power who isn’t corrupted by it.
Superman needs to be done right on the big screen.
The 70s film and its sequel are great!
@@bradskag3007 except for the 4th movie quest for peace lol
@@bradskag3007 Christopher Reeve?
*coughs* Zack Snyder's Justice League *coughs*
@@123dan165 Yes!
It’s honestly sad how we’ve treated Superman as a character. He deserves so much more.
And we keep saying batman is better cause he's dark and gritty. Maybe because he's going through stuff we all going through but come on.
@@epicjonny155 both are epic and both are needed
@@epicjonny155 And the worst part is that that’s a bad characterization for Batman too. He’s not good because he’s dark and gritty, he’s good despite the fact that the world around him IS dark and edgy.
and yet in a world where everyone hated superman. he would love us
Nah Superman is overrated and shouldn’t be adapted again.
I think the most ideal criticism of Superman can be summarized by a quote from the Green Goblin.
"The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they'll hate you. Why bother?"
“Dreams save us. Lift us up and transform us. And on my soul…I swear until my dreams of a world where dignity, honor, and justice becomes the reality we all share, I’ll never stop fighting. Ever” - Superman
In society, people seem to reject upon those who value altruism, seeming them as naïve, but I always perceived it with as a way to shape and build a positive community, welcoming those who would help and need help from other people. That was the whole point of Lex Luthor as Superman's villain, as someone once stated, "We're all becoming Lex Luthors", representing upon people embracing upon their assumptions that the world and everyone living are equally ugly and worthless scumbags; that it’s all about who gains and who doesn’t; and let our own ego go wild as such. To idealize upon that people can always be able to pass on hope onto to others which a small act of kindness is all it takes to do it, and that's literally how the Kents' raised a literal alien to be who he is; more human that anyone can ever be.
Superman vs the Elite a good underrated movie, But you’re right I mean you know it’s bad when a alien from outer space can be more human with how people are nowadays to each other even to children only caring about themselves being corrupted and greedy.
At this point in how mass media portrays heroism, I feel like Classic good Superman is becoming more of an exception than the norm
@Tanner Hutchings I never said all humanity is like that but people nowadays, They enjoy hurting and killing others especially children just to get what they want
@Tanner Hutchings Yes, not everyone is like that and no one is saying that everyone is, but OP and InvestedGman are saying that the foreseeable *majority* are.
There's nothing more cliche than cynicism.
I hate it when people view as a perfect being, a god, but I hate it when they dehumanize him, a monster. I love it when he’s viewed not as a god or a monster, but as Superman, an immigrant with powers and uses them to help people, who struggles and fails but gets back up
man that can do anything: devotes a huge amount of his time to helping others without expecting anything in return
admirable is an understatement
Honestly if I lived in a universe with beings like Doomsday, a being that if they die, they just come back immune to whatever killed them, Superman would be a first priority for me
Today, I read the first part of Superman: Secret Identity, and albeit its not technically the Clark Kent we know, he perfectly captures the loneliness that comes with being Superman, and he goes through his self journey all by himself. He truly presents human in superhuman
The world didn't need superman, just a brave one
-Superman
Everytime I hear that line by Superman, I always cry. EVERYTIME on the death of Daniel Turpin.
I was definitely one of the many people who said superman was boring but over the last couple months I've been reading some of his stories most recently rebirth and he is probably the most important superhero ever created he has such strong power and all he wants is to be a good man, husband, and father its breathtaking
People who think superman is boring have never read or watched a real superman story
Absolutely.
He's not boring, Hollywood just sucks! Period.
They just don't know him as well as they think.
Oh stfu, I have read All-Star, For All Seasons, Byrne's run, Geoff's run and many more issues here and there, Superman is really not that complex or interesting of a character. He works as a simple archetype I guess? But as a character, he's EXTREMELY simple and not in a good way, from a character conflict standpoint he's like a 6/10.
Like I think The Doctor is pretty much Superman, but done right. Everything good you can say about Superman, you can say about the Doctor, but the difference is that the Doctor actually has a character flaw which is actually relevant to the story.
@@tananatana4011 Look fool, that really all depends on how Superman is written. Dwayne McDuffie certainly did him right when he used to write for Justice League TAS/Unlimited back then.
Never was the biggest Superman fan but everything you've done is so compelling, I gotta give this a good listen
What do think now ?
Superman is boring and the cca had a lot to do with his popularity. Sci-fi and horror comics where big before the cca. Superman got lucky cause all the bible thumpers chose him as the "safe" comic. Superman is a fraud, DC sued captain marvel, did everything it could to dominate the competition. Heck they even did a Popeye parody after the publisher of Popeye said they didn't want to just to make superman the winner. It's a slap in the face when they "hint" that Popeye has a drug problem.
That is who superman is a corporate lap dog for the establishment. Funk you superman fanboys for what you guys did to my hero. Popeye the sailor man.
@@gak1146 Superman was made by two jewish men, so that people would accept Jew refugees after Hitler… what the fuck are you on about?
@@gak1146 this had better be a joke calling SUPERMAN a corporate lap dog when his greatest enemy is a Fucking corrupt billionaire if you really believe that cynical view of the first superhero piss off.
You had better watch Superman vs The Elite it's *amazing*
I used to be a dirtbag teen that thought Superman was boring but I've grown to really appreciate who he is and what he stands for. He's an ideal, he's what we all want to live up to. (Granted this was DCeased when Jon was Superman but..) When Superman told Constantine he was a good man right before Constantine saved the world and Constantine said something like "I don't think that's true but it means a lot hearing that from Superman", that's so powerful. Having that one character that we all know is the best of us and makes us want to be the best of ourselves, that's not boring.
I think Superman is a lesson on the nature of power. The limits of power. The need, the absolute ever-present need, for empathy. The power of unashamedly, passionately striving to do good at every turn.
Ultimately, Superman is pure positivity, and hope. He is the personalization of the indomitable human spirit. That even in the face of all inevitable doom, you stare back and say, "But I'm going to try anyway." When the rest of the world is full of cynics and pessimists, or even if it's your own internal thoughts and demons, who constantly plague your mind with the question, "What if you fail?", Superman represents the rebuttal to that questions: "But what if I succeed?"
As a kid I didn’t really care for Superman because I related and loved Spider-Man more. I’m a older young man and I can understand him and other characters and I’m truly starting to love Superman.
They find him boring because they can't see in him what they like to see, that does not make him boring, and most of the reasons and arguments I heard and saw people say and show are what is really boring and lame.
Want to know something funny?
Current people think that Superman is boring because they think he does not struggle and is not relatable and there is no drama and hardships...
What is funny is the irony, that Superman was made by the very people who were going through real drama, life struggles and where in development and these people who were struggling were, or at least trying to relate to Superman.
This is a great video that shows an understanding of Superman and how he really isn't boring. Superman is the greatest superhero of all time, not because of his powers, but how he chooses to use them to help people because he cares. His greatest strength is his humanity which he learned from being raised on Earth by 2 loving parents. This shows that Superman's humanity and compassion comes from humanity itself. We will never have the powers of Superman, but we have the same capacity for good that Superman does and Superman does inspire us to act on our good nature. The world needs Superman now more than ever. 🦸♂️
Doomsday Clock is another great example of what makes Superman great. Dr. Manhatten A man turned into a god disassociated with humanity regains it with his encounter with a God raised to be man. True poetry. Dr. Manhattan with all his power his ability to just vaporize Clark, he can’t destroy his ideals or inspiration of hope so he vanishes and scarifies himself to give his world a Clark. Even Lex understands this at the end of The Last Knight and gives the world a new Superman after sacrificing himself.
Superman is fucking awesome.
He was never boring and anyone who saids he is just has no idea and Assume they know his character.
BINGO! Those people just don't know him as well as they think.
I’m so thankful that some people are actually smart enough to realize the brilliance of Superman cause it always makes me mad when people dumb Superman down to an overpowered pure person
What else is Superman? Without his powers I mean we’re talking about a reporter. Superman isn’t a dumb character at all just a boring one. I think he was made great for his time period when he was made in the 1940’s I believe, but times have changed. It went from giving a lot of powers to a single character to training and earning what you get. People can relate to working hard and grinding to be on top, dbz, one piece, my hero academia, naruto, especially Batman the only reason dc is relevant to me is because of Batman!!!! Amazing shows like this can last 20, 30, 40 years plus because of the incredible storylines and character developments that happens, Superman doesn’t, and haven’t changed a lot and in my opinion over the years that’s why he’s stuck in the mud. They’ve tried to change things a bit it just hasn’t worked.
@@quintbakerjr2786 There are other ways of inspiring people, and in Superman's case he shows us the best parts of humanity and inspires us to become the best version of ourselves. Plus, there are plenty of stories where Superman is challenged at all levels (physical, emotional, etc) and he has to work hard to surpass them just like any other character.
@@gael.7593
That’s great but that doesn’t sell in movies or comics or tv shows which is why Batman is dc’s only headliner!!! Superman is a great character but if it was that easy supes would have a movie out every week, he doesn’t provide hard work and action, great adversaries and or storylines in my opinion. Good character just to much power not enough work to earn it.
@@quintbakerjr2786I think you’re missing the point here, Superman is more than just his powers. It’s what he does with them, unlike Batman who sticks to his mindset, Superman knows that there’s always room to improve as a person. Superman’s struggle isn’t physical, it’s mental.
@@Rhetoricalquestion-m6c
That makes no sense and you can’t sell that in theaters. You can sell Batman in theaters, no matter what the situation, you can’t with supes without his powers he’s Clark Kent no one is paying to see Clark Kent. This is a business it’s about making money Batman does it in movies comics tv shows and more can’t say the same about Superman
I love this. Superman is a loveable character because he never let the power or fame get to his head.
Unlike Say for Characters such as Homelander & Omni-Man.
Superman is a boring mary sue. Dog water of a character.q
@@gak1146 I’m pretty sure your a bot lol
I don’t see how he’s a Mary Sue
Characters can’t be Mary Sues just as a character, “Mary Sue”ness comes about via bad writing.
You could write a story about a god who could do anything
But as long as there is some sacrifice, difficult choices, and painful experiences in order to get what they want/do what they need to do
They aren’t a Mary Sue
What sacrifice? He's a Mary Sue. I'm not a bot I hate superman and his fanboys. So I ask again what sacrifice? He still has his powers right? He can beat everyone else even 4th and 5th demonsion beings. Remember how all you fan boys wanked off cause he punched the world forger and knocked him on his ass. Superman fanboys love to bring that up. I hate superman and I'm glad his books don't sell he was below 80s in sales only one that hit 25 was a batman tie-in. 😂
Don't hear anything from you superman wankers now do I?
"Nobody wants to look up to you, Superman. They don't want to strain their necks."
It's a hard line between loving Superman, and hating his haters. If you know where that quote is from, you're a legend. If not, I'll tell you if you ask. Point is, I've met many people who think Superman is boring, and that basically shows that they have Lex's mentality.
Damn
If a person is unable to see Superman's goodness and the sureness of his moral compass, the problem is with them, not Superman.
@@vilstef6988 I agree. However, I got a separate problem. My problem is I end up hating them as individuals, and that can lead to a self-destructive mental state.
That's a great line. Where is it from, then?
I wanna know where it's from.
Not once did I ever find Superman boring. His very story from his reason for being sent to Earth, to his overwhelming strength, to his sense of justice and duty for others, etc. Certainly a timeless character.
You've been lucky, then. Superman doesn't have to be boring, but it's also easy to make him boring, especially if you feel obligated to include the world's biggest superhero in your story but don't really want to.
There are interesting Supermen, but also boring ones.
Only people who doesn't understand Superman would call him boring. Those are the people who actually believe that Superman's greatest weakness is kryptonite instead of his heart
so timeless he's still the face of comic book heroes, 100 years later
@@luciusnguyen2449 ...unless that Superman was written by someone who doesn't understand Superman. Which is extremely common.
I dunno why I care so much about pointing this out, but Superman isn't a monolith. Action Comics #1 Superman is not New Adventures of Superman Superman is not Christopher Reeves Superman is not Alan Moore Superman is not DCAU Superman is not Lego Superman is not Snyder Superman, but for better or for worse, they're all Superman. For better and for worse.
I love Superman and I’ve never found him boring.
the first superhero can't be boring, he's the personification of hope
people often compare him to Captain America, but personally i always saw him as DC's own Spiderman, two kids who were living normal lives until they suddenly became upon a power like no other, who used their surrogate parents' teachings as his life philosophy, protecting everyone who can't protect themselves against everything not because they have to, but because they can, they love this place and everyone who lives here, so they'll give their everything to preserve what they love
Superman isn't a Super that hides as a man, he's a man who just so happens to be Super
I agree with this I figured out 6 years of Superman material that there was definitely more similarities between Spider-Man and Superman than I realized.
Superman isn’t the first superhero
@@User-lo6sx first modern one
He is boring. Cry more fanboy.
Nightwing is more like DC's Spiderman he has a lot of similar characteristics: acrobatic, ladies man, levity, being his own man storyline.
I've been learning a lot about Superman lately, and I've figured out that in a good Superman story, he may be a Kryptonian, but he's still human. IMO Superman can be a really great character, but alot of writers don't know how to write that, and instead of focusing on him and him as a person, they focus on his power and nothing else. In a good Superman story, he's strong, but kind. Powerful, but gentle. I'm not even a fan, and even I know that.
That's what happened when you get bad comic book writers and also bad movie directors to write Superman
Supes is an ALIEN,pretending to be_HUMAN.
The best comment I read was when someone said “If Superman doesn’t come off as a Boy-scout, then you’re writing him wrong” which I absolutely agree with.
Superman’s character shines when his relationship with others are explored, his choices and how is moral choices affect him is when you see that behind his powers and cape, Superman is just a genuinely good man.
Like, Superman is the nice guy that most nice guys think they are.
Facts
that comment about the “nice guy” is hella accurate. Superman isn’t one of the “nice guys,” he’s a genuine GOOD guy.
Yea, his best stories was when he saves a girl from jumping off a building (When he himself was dying and can't afford to waste time) or when he spends time with a random kid hanging out with him and helping him with his bike or when he helps an abused kid and gives the kid a phone so he can call Superman when he needs help.
But much like Man of Steel they just turn him into McPunchy and paints him as Jesus.
I’m gonna be honest I kinda wish that Superman and Batman weren’t friends
@@somerandomguy7325 eh, depends who's writing them. The version in the DCAU does well with it since they start out with a distaste for each other, one for the threat the other poses, the other for the fact he uses threats to deal with problems, but over time they grow to respect each other, and even develop a good rapport between the two of them. They're friend from work, but while at work they manage to have a good time doing it.
Surprised more people don't like superman because he's "Overpowered" when so many anime protagonists and characters that people love are... "Overpowered" too. Just goes to show both that people can join in on a bandwagon of hate, AND that Superman does deserve better writers, at the very least on the big screen
Anima characters have growth and they are not as overpowered as Superman. Superman doesn’t have any growth or challenge. He’s perfect from the get go.
@@robertrainford6754lmao
@@robertrainford6754sounds like thor
@@wixchnijiinut lol nice joke but Thor isn’t perfect as he had to learn how to be humble after being cast out of Asgard. Another thing is Thors rouges gallery can actually hurt him which doesn’t make Thor overpowered. 99 percent of Superman’s villains can’t actually hurt Superman or they are given the same power set just to match him. Saying thor sounds like Superman is awful. Another thing thor is a god Superman is just a alien. By default thor, and any character who is a god should automatically be above Superman by default in dc.
@@robertrainford6754 superman villains can't hurt superman?
Bro this you know everything about superman 🤣
1. Superman also has many weaknesses including kryptonite magic and the red sun that is how to kill him what about thor?
2. you said superman's villains can't hurt him wtf 🤣 darkseid brainiac doomsday general zod this guy can fuck superman if there want or even superman can't be killed True, but the one thing he could never touch was Lex Luthor intelligence
3.Yes, you said that Thor is god and Superman is just alien, but Superman has responsibility for the loss of his home planet since his birth, Raised by two farmers, he is more human than anyone else and must keep his secret identity
4.Thor comes from Norse mythology, where he exists as both dc and marvel But thor in marvel, his position is superman, That's something you can't deny, If measured according to comics, hulk and thor will be the ones who carry the team, Especially Thor who fights Magog
5. Even though Superman is perfect in every way, But there was one more thing he was missing, It is trying to adapt to humans
6.I'm not asking thor is above superman🤭
There was a time where I did come agree how Superman in comparison to others hero’s is boring, but with the popularity of Invincible and the Boys, I’ve grown to truly appreciate Superman both as an idea and as a character. He’s someone that had stand the passage of time, and hopefully continues to do so.
The Boys and Invincible are shown on Amazon. And Amazon is owned by Jeff Bezos who is compared to Lex Luthor by people. Mmmmh
Love this, it’s so easy to be so caught up on the powers Superman has that we forget the soul within Clark that goes beyond the pressures he endures, most people want someone relatable because not only to not feel alone but to help believe they can raise as well, but looking at someone that is so inspiring can help us be reminded that there’s someone can be this good, it’s possible to be this good, and that life isn’t as dark as it seems.
Superman is and always has been my favorite superhero. thank you for making this, Sage's Rain. Superman is the hero we all need, now more than anything in this cynical world we know
Movies have done him dirty for so many years
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Exactly
To be fair, you can only do so much in 90 minutes. Plus it will be dumbed down for a general audience.
@@leonrobinson8180nah that's a cop out because we've been able to make literally every other superhero look great, including Iron Man. Directors just don't get his character and try to change it
Superman isn't boring, he just has a bad habit of being written by people who don't like him.
My favorite take on Superman is one TH-cam video that called him Clark Kent's customer service voice. I think that's the most interesting thing about him-the fact that Kal is _Clark Kent_ behind his non-existent mask, that he doesn't really care for the glory and honor of being the world's greatest hero.
@Tanner Hutchings Believe it or not, it's possible to read Superman and not get him. For better and for worse, Superman doesn't wear his interesting themes on his sleeve. ("Truth, Justice, and the American Way" is one theme he DOES wear on his sleeve, but it's also the most boring thing about him.)
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After watching My Adventures with Superman, I’m relieved to see a Superman who’s helpful and a bright light, and flawed.
He’s not boring, because he’s imperfect
I'm excited to watch this because I've been on a superman kick lately and this might link with my new hyperfixation
I am so glad to see panels from Superman Smashes the Klan in here. It doesn't have any gigantic overarching universe ending plotline, but it's one of the most powerful Superman stories out there. 100% worth the read!
The immigrant from the stars is just so amazing because he was raised and inspired by us. He's not the Super Kryptonian, he's the Superman because Earth is his home now and he's here to stay.
Your ending words to this video are exactly what I needed to hear. In a world where Superheroes are becoming darker and edgier, with people clamouring for deconstructions of characters - Superman is a hero that's meant to inspire and show us how good we can be.
The reason Superman and Spider-Man will always be relevant is because of this idea that these incredibly powerful and incredibly busy heroes have time to talk someone down from suicide or to save a cat from a tree.
We need heroes like that. Especially now
We need a deconstruction of deconstruction itself, to expose the cynical, dark underbelly of the very thing itself.
@@glitchygear9453 question - how high are you right now?
@@glitchygear9453 Do you know of any stories that do that? I'd love to read it
@@logicaltips4107 No, unfortunately. I would love to write one, but I'm still devising what that would look like beyond "deconstructionist" heroes being exposed as villainous (or, at the least incompetent at this whole "hero" thing). I am considering nihilistic, edgy, pseudo-"realistic" heroes ultimately being defeated by actual heroes, but that would require immaculate writing to pull off and not be cringy or preachy.
@@glitchygear9453 kinda sounds like Superman vs The Elite- animated film
its sad people only interested on superman if he is evil😭
People who call superman "boring" have never actually consumed a superman story outside of the man of steel movie. Superman's literal biggest enemy is Lex Luthor a normal human with simply high intelligent and wealth. And the reason why despite all the powerful creatures superman has battled like lobo or Darkseid, lex is his arch-nemsis is because of the thematic contrast between the two. Superman represents a symbol of hope, justice and ultimate power while Lex represents corruption, corporate synergy and injustice. Superman uses his powers for good by virtue of his morally right upbringing while Lex is obsessed with superman's power creating machinery to replicate and compete only furthering his corruption and descendant into madness. Lex is the president in some stories which holds good faith for the people while Superman is the hero of justice also holding faith and hope for the people and when the two sides clash, in a good superman story it is a thematic clash not just a physical one. Despite Superman being an Alien he always showed great humility while Lex depsite being human acts above everyone and almost un-human like how he looks down on everyone even at times competing with superman physically(mainly due to kryptonite)
This is only one aspect of superman its not even taking into account his personal life as Clark and balancing superman or his dichotomy between other Justice League members especially his complex contrast with Batman or even his homeworld's lore and history such as supergirl.
*snores*
Superman is still boring after everything you said. But you can like him we all have different opinions, however superman will never be as iconic as he was befote
That's not true. I consumed Superman media years before it and I thought he was boring.
In fact it was Man of Steel that made me realize how interesting he is. And I know I'm not alone in that regard
I like how you described both Superman and Lex Luthor's philology and what they represents with Superman represents the good in humanity and has a sense of justice that he wants to help people because it's the right thing to do, meanwhile Lex Luthor represents the worst in humanity, he's a corrupted billionaire, he has a huge ego, and he committed horrible crimes just to get what he wants, that's why they're both arch-nemesis.
people always give a million reason why he isn't boring and yet he still remains boring, he's the plain Jane white bread super hero
As someone with DACA, I never thought I could have such a deep connection to a character until I rewatched Man of Steel as an adult.
People love Homelander for the following reasons: He's an "evil" version of Superman. But let's break it down on what makes him this version of Superman.
- With all the power in the world, he does virtually what he wants with little to no remorse.
- He's narcissistic.
- He lacks a support system/love which resulted in a lack of morals an insecurity.
- Despite his status, he's never TRIED to truly put his powers to the test.
- He does a shitty job holding back his powers and lashes out whenever he wants.
- instead of showing ingenuity when he meets his match, he tried to hide it and is afraid of not being top dog.
- he's a force that puts protagonist in high risk situations.
With all this said, people should realize that Superman is a DEEP character because of the points above.
- Superman with all his godlike powers, is humanities greatest defenders because of a simple, normal family in a farm teach him right from wrong, love and support and making him not ashamed of what he is. Nuture being such a powerful thing.
- He has all the power in the world, but him being in danger is not the focus, his goal to save someone is the focus.
- Because he wants to save someone? He has to limit his powers to not break someone or something. (World Made of Cardboard)
- he loves among humans, as a normal guy. A bumbling clumsy guy at that. And people take advantage of someone like that. That tests Superman. Because he's seeing some potential ugliness in the people he tries to save when he could sqaush them like a fucking bug. Huge restraint.
- When Superman bleeds against a foe, now you have his to consider. And if he goes? Alot more souls will follow but he will still press forward.
Superman ain't boring. People's perceptions of Superman in modern day? Are boring.
Sage's rain : superman should not deified, he's a human.
Meanwhile gods from real mythologies : I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear dat.
I think the reason Superman gets a bad rep as a character is because its hard to imagine someone as powerful as him being as virtuous, which tells more about our society than Superman as a character. The decline of his popularity reflects the grimmer view we have on society compared to earlier days.
As much as I don't like Iron Man as a character, I think part of his appeal is that he starts out as a rich jerk with power. So following his journey of becoming a better person feels relatively more real.
We really need more superman in our lives.
Superman is a normal nice guy who just so happen to have god-like power. You think that it wouldn't be that hard to write, but people get caught up in the power part of it I suppose.
In an episode of STAS, they think that Clark Kent is "dead" from a car bomb, and he is terrified at the prospect of being Superman 24/7 and straight up says he can't do it.
Ah, another Superman appreciater.
Superman is the greatest superhero.
I absolutely adore you for making this video, Superman is one of my biggest heroes. Even if I'm not even a "superman", I'm still trying to be the best man I can be, and make the best choices I can for others, like he would. Thank you so much again for this video ❤
Great video. Superman is the absolute BEST. My favorite superhero
One of the biggest things done wrong in 2013’s Man of Steel (in my opinion of course) is how Pa Kent died; Clark could have easily saved him and others without tipping anyone off about his powers. It would have been much more powerful and made more sense for him to have died in a way that Clark couldn’t have helped, like a heart attack as in the 1978 movie. It would have driven home that he can’t save everyone.
Zack Snyder tells stories like a six-year-old.
I personally think Superman is less about hope and more about humanity. He should be relatable, deal with very real human issues, like alienation or impostor syndrome. He needs to be a likable character. And if you want to do him well in film, you should give him a flat character arc. His values should be challenged rather than changed. I like a Superman that can lift buildings but helps an old lady cross the seat.
*I feel like I can relate to Superman more than any other comic character* I’ve been insecure about who I am before - which resulted in me trying to be someone else - trying to be someone else (Clark Kent as an example) playing to a persona - made me awkward af.. cos what you are and what you’re trying to be are conflicted.. in reality - - being yourself - - is the best advice you’ll ever get.
Bill's Superman monologue from Kill Bill is awesome and gives credit where credit is due.
I think this why I've come to like Superman and Ultraman is that they are symbols of hope despite looking and acting different. Both are symbols of hope because despite the failures or desperate situations they still do good
I saw an amazing quote recently that sums up what I love about Superman
“Superman did not become Clark Kent,
Clark Kent became Superman”
Like everything else Superman can be bogged down by either bad adaptions or dare I say it even bad comic storylines and I think that sort of thing is what really ruined the character for a lot of people. For me personally it took a portrayal that I liked for me to come around to see his character in a positive light.
With that said though I think it’s totally fine to thinks he’s boring, under all the flowery language about hope and the future there are things about him that are unappealing to people and you just have to accept that.
I think the movies that made him a soulless alien character that made his character boring for people which is sad that an amazing character is done dirty
Other way around for me. Man of Steel showed me that he still has room to grow. Shows like Justice League Unlimited made him seem like Mr. Perfect at a first glance. Death Battle sure as hell didn't help his perception to the public.
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Yeah, honestly despite its flaws, I really liked _Man of Steel_ because it showed us what having beings like Superman would actually be like, in terms of how destructive a fight between two beings of Superman caliber could be. Along with the fact that it shows us a Superman who actually has to struggle to use his powers, that he doesn't get perfect control of his powers and sees the consequences of it. Do you get what I mean?
I had always thought of Superman as being lame and very much overrated. Then I started watching The Boys and started really appreciating someone w these powers who doesn't choose inhumane evil.
Also,this video helped to understand Superman so thank you :)
Massive MASSIVE props for recognizing Kingdom Come's importance to understanding Clark Kent's character.
Thank you sage for making this video. It just really pains me to see so many people call superman boring, and it pains me even more to see that most of the people who say that have only ever seen him in the films which do not paint an accurate representation of his character. In a world that seems to get more and more chaotic, depressing, and nihilistic, we need a character like superman more than ever. Theres a good reason he's the prototype superhero, there's a good reason that big S on his chest is so iconic. The true superman exists to show us and to prove to us that we as individuals and as a society are capable of more and can always strive to be better. Superman shows us what it truly means to be a hero. It isn't about just punching bad guys really hard, or looking cool. Being a hero is really about inspiring others, standing up for whats right and for what you believe in, being a hero means to uplift others and to save people sometimes even from themselves. Superman taught me all of that, and I hope more people start to truly appreciate why we need a symbol of hope like him
@Tanner Hutchings the only way that Henry cavills superman is accurate is in looks, that's where it ends
@Tanner Hutchings Henry cavill is a great actor and was good casting but unfortunately the writing for his version of superman was not good and misses the point of his character. I do hope he gets another chance to get the character right though
I never do this, but have you considered voice acting in the media? I mean you have the deepest voice out of all those video essayists.😲
A farmboy raised by middle class parents who instilled him with morals and values that teach him to save people with his gifts. A man working in a large city as a reporter while building relationships with co-workers. Someone trying to help as many as he can while balancing his own life. A man wondering what his life would've been like with his birth parents, but grateful for the life and parents he ended up with. How is he less relatable than a billionaire living the same tragic night constantly in his head while isolating his true self from society?
Every hours is respect Superman hours, no exceptions. We need him now more than ever.
Clark Kent and Superman are more human than anyone could ever be, but anyone can aspire to.
people would say superman is boring then praise Shigeshi from Mob Psycho 100 for being an interesting character
My brother in Christ they are the same fucking character
*starts playing Starman*
I love your analysis that Superman's greatest importance isn't about him testing his powers, it's about testing his humanity. Superman is the absolute good in all of us, yet he just like anyone will face issues where he will be defeated every day by others who disagree with him and may even as others do today write him off as a boring good boy with nothing of substance.
The truth is that Superman's greatness has never come from his powers, his greatness comes from being human in spite of his powers and in spite of others finding him to not be "Superman"
It's kinda like saying why the world is still screwed up when Superman could fix it all, when the truth is that no one can fix that as to do so would be beyond human, issues do not come from the world, they come from people and people no matter how amazing will always have flaws, and Superman is just like any other person in this regard and yet he still chooses to see a world where we can be better and we can fix these issues.
We just have to know that even when fixed those issues will still arise and it's important to stay strong and find reason within ourselves, find Superman in us.
The only people who say Superman is boring are the people who don't know anything about him
I did used to not like SuperMan but i have changed and i have alot for respect of him now
Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. They happened to be Jewish and the character premiered in the 1930s when a certain someone in Germany was rising in power. I doubt that that was a coincidence.
Superman and Optimus Prime aka Orion Pax are one and the same when it comes to their character
I love superman and my favorite moment is clark kent lois lane and my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self going on fun adventures especially seeing Lois lane protecting her son Jon Kent fighting the eradicator with the hellbat armor is really awesome and badass.
I love superman, and I always will and seeing people give him the respect he deserves is amazing.
People forget, she is Spider-Man, but she’s also just a KID. She’s LEARNING, growing up, as all kids must. She’s finally learned what Spider-Man TRULY is, what the suit MEANS. I will forever quote Pete in the Edge of Time game, “What’s important is NOT standing by and allowing someone to suffer or DIE because you do NOTHING! If you don’t get that, then you don’t get the first thing about being Spider-Man.” Fittingly enough, it’s Miguel that Pete says that to, teaching him that Spider-Man is about doing the RIGHT thing in the face of fear rather than standing by and watching others suffer because of it.
Superman is my 2nd favorite hero of all time right behind Green Lantern. He has helped me be who I am today and I think that everyone can take something from him no matter who you are.
What a chump, needed a comic hero to be your crutch. I pity you.
I want a Superman movie.. based around that one comic “ Superman and the jumper” no big action set pieces, so fights, just Clark trying to save ONE person. Just one.
Booorrrriiiinnnggg!!!!!
Once again, Sage's Rain reminds me (despite I already knowing) and many others, that Superman is not boring, Superman is interesting and simply incredible.
This is why Superman and The Iron Giant are my favorite characters
Was praying one of these days you'd cover the Man of Tomorrow. Great stuff as always my guy.
Loved the essay!
Homelander in the Boys series is the dark version of superman which makes me value the influence of superman`s father Jonathan Kent (especially as portrayed in the Superman: Man of Steel) in preparing him to develop a philosophy or paradigm to synthesize and cope with the pressure and responsibilities that come with such power.
Homelander did not have such a figure in his life and we can all see the effects.
Saying homelander is the dark/ evil version of superman is the most surface level thinking I've ever seen there's a reason many are regarding him as one of the best villains in tv history and its not because he's "dark superman" that's an insult to the writing of the character because he's quite more than that
@@teonnechapman1420 why do you think homelander turned out the way he did? If he had an upbringing similar to Clark, would he end he have turned out that way?
@@Thus_said I'm not talking about how he grew up the point of my comment was to critique you for saying that homelander is dark/ evil superman when his character is much more that and is so much more complex than your simplification
Kingdom Come is the perfect DC Comic for me. It Shows the DC Characters so well...
Superman as an idea, to me, is beautiful. I just wish his stories reflected this more often, be it in the comics or in the movies.
I'm tired of the hipsters that are like "SuPerMaN iS bOriNg CuZ hE HaS nO FLaWs". Like, #1 yeah he does have flaws, don't over-simplify him, and #2 if you actually look into Superman's struggles and what he puts up with he is far from boring. Superman is a classic hero archetype, don't pretend like these new-age superheroes or rewritten characters are better. Maybe people should reflect more on Superman's stories to figure out why he became such a popular character in the first place.
Superman may not be the most greatest or complicated hero, but hes one that has created great memories that will last generations to come. Good day to you Mr. Rain
He is the greatest though!
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The greatest? 🤔
Depends what you mean by _greatest_
I measure _greatness_ in relation to your *Impact and influence.*
And Superman definitely is the most influential character in comic books, and the superhero genre:
In the last issue of Superman Adventures he was willing to sacrifice himself to save Livewire and almost died his if it wasn't for her saving him in return,he was willing to save Livewire his enemy who hated him in every electrolyte she had yet he chose to help her despite the hatred she had for him...
Superman is a true hero born out of love not revenge not from the sins of the past nor guilt just love and willpower
He is a true hero,he really is🦸🏻✊
A read a few comics with Superman and I always get this warm feeling when he interacts with his friends and family.
Anyone who thinks Superman is boring is a basic fan. He is everything a hero SHOULD represent. Every thing a hero should strive to be. He may not be as “cool” as certain heroes, but in terms of pure heroism, he is the standard. Strong, compassionate, faithful, resilient, and humble.
Superman isn't boring per say, hell, he's got a simple but super cool premise. It's just that so many authors or directors end up reiterating and making his character... I dunno, predictable? Overly simplistic? A simple, easy to follow and understand hero is totally fine, and hell, sometimes it's refreshing just to have a regular, average story for a superhero, truly.
I dunno, I guess what I'm trying to say is; maybe it's just that they gotta hit all the aspects of the guy well enough tbh. Cause if not, it's like "oh, Superman ALONE is about to throw hands and its gonna be a wash" at this point, what's the point of the Justice League surrounding him?
Superman is the greatest superhero When Written right. Clark is a very important character and very easy to do badly unlike Batman. You ask everybody what is Batman you will get a different answer because everybody has a different interpretation of Batman. With Superman most people have the same answer. Truth and Justice, the big blue boy scout. A man with amazing powers who uses those powers to save a cat out of a tree. Using his worlds to stop threats
Superman: The Best Version of Humanity, Down to his core.
The MAN With the strength to bring Justice, But the Kind heart To use it to bring about Peace.
When I was like 12, I use to never like Superman just cause he beats Goku☠️. But I then realized that he does. I also watched alot of analysis videos and I get why people like him so much. I actually really want some Superman content. He seems like the kind of character that I would really like. Hopefully Hollywood figures out how to make a faithful movie for him.
Superman has always been my favorite
as a Superman fan Im sick and tired of people disrespecting him and saying he's boring crazy to me that a character that genuinely loves to do good gets flamed on and Im tired of the evil superman trope as well enough already what does it say in our society where characters like batman is praised more then hopeful characters like superman that just want to do good
The world is lucky that Kal El was found and raised by the Kents.
People that say Superman is boring are very evious, they think that people put him above all others. They feel that a God powerful being would drive attention away from them and therefore they envy him.
In order to love Superman we must be humble, we must be like him and not only him, but like every good person we know.
It's funny, Superman is the most powerful human and still, he is the most humble one, he just wants a simple and happy life, nothing more.
I love Superman and i am not ashamed to say it, i've cried so many times reading his stories and i am proud to say it.
Superman was influencing my life even when i disliked him.
He taught me how to be humble, how to love others, how to help others and how to be better, and he will always do it.
Batman and Superman, my All Time Favorite Heroes.
Before this even starts, I'm recommending Superman vs The Elite animated film and the comic panels of Superman/Shazam: FT where he learns Billy Batson is a kid.