Thanks mate, I'm getting it. I have 4 Husqvarna chainsaws, this will be perfect for what I need it for. To anyone else reading this comment or the ones who have commented and been disappointed that it cut out:- all chainsaws should not be pushed, but allow the speed of the chain and the chain to cut the material. Your first cut illustrates how material should be cut. Great review, thanks
Thanks Rhett a good clear and unhurried review. I got fed up with my heavy corded chainsaw and ordered one of these. I then looked at your review afterwoods as you do. I am now confident I made the right choice.
Cheers for putting the video together. I've exactly same use case as you, Aussie outback, camping, good to know it makes short work of whats out there. Thanks again.
Very nice review! Thank you. Only thing I would add is that a key less chain tightening and bar removal are worse... you loose a lot of stability and tightening power (usually). Also, I think you had your chain too loose. Remember, after working the chain loosens with heat.
Thank you very much Rhett, for that excellent review, a quality, informative and helpful review. I have the bigger (top of the line) DUC353 which is fantastic, but i am now definately getting this awesome little bugger for smaller jobs (and the Missuz) lol ...Cheers Rhett : )
Thanks Cobber. I'm considering this model to replace a 'husky' which is costing a lot to use thanks to the people in Canberra increasing excise + GST on petrol.
I already have a powerful Stihl mains electric chainsaw, so I'm not going to be asking this one to do what I'd be better using the Stihl for. This looks perfect for hedge laying, pruning and a little light chainsaw carving.
I have cut up a fair bit with this chainsaw now. The convenience of battery electric and near silence means i always grab it first if it can do the job. Cutting up hardwood the length of the bar on a hot day is the limit of it and it can becoming annoying but i still choose it over my petrol chainsaw. It is particularly good at pruning, and i often use it one handed, making sure my face and body is not in the line of the cut. I havent done wood carving but i wonder if it would be more suited to that than anything else on the market, unless having a cord makes an equivalent chainsaw even lighter.
A higher amp hour battery doesn't improve amp output, only run time. As a matter of fact, the problem that battery chemists encounter is getting higher capacity batteries to output high current (amps). It's usually a trade off. The higher the capacity (amp hours) the lower the current (amps) output. So, if anything, 3 Ah batteries are better at high drain than 5, or 6 amp hour batteries. This is why it has taken so long to develop the longer lasting tool batteries. The longer they last the lower their output level needs to be. Makita's 6Ah batteries seem to output similar levels as the 3Ah, but not any higher. I once had a single battery Makita saw. It was much smaller and had a brushed motor. This saw is extracting an impressive output from 10 18650 cells in a single LXT battery. The outer rotor brushless motor must achieve astronomical efficiency! Cutting limbs with a single small tool battery blows my mind. I think Makita ought to make LXT batteries with 15 cells. They would be a little thicker, but it would spread the amp load out so as not to over tax the cells too much. That would allow them to make 9 Ah LXTs.
The reason the saw has a cut out is to protect the motor. If the saw is overloaded (say pushing too hard) and the motor slows down too much, current through the motor can rise to a very high level which can damage the motor. The saw has a circuit which monitors motor current and cuts power to the motor when it gets too high. If you want to go hard, you should look at a more powerful saw or a petrol version.
So are you saying that this model cuts better than the two battery model because of the higher speed? I just bought the DUC302z for trimming small branches and am now worried I should have bought this one instead? Good review btw.
If you are doing work up a ladder or in a tree or doing fast light work or you are a small or elderly person you might be better off swapping? Otherwise the 302 may have more torque, so cutting might not be much different? I havent used a 302, only seen video.
@@rhetth-s8082 thank you im consider a small chainsaw but for my needs I don't think I require an petrol powered I find the battery just fine but wanted to check with people who have it, have lots of makita battery equipment though
A bit disappointed that it seems to cut out so easily but I guess its a bit hard to tell how much pressure u were applying in the video.... Does the chain bar oil leak from the tank when not in use?
I also have a Stihl Woodboss which is a mid sized petrol chainsaw. I might have put about the kind of pressure that can handle into the makita. So its no surprise it cut out. I noticed some oil on its bottom, but as far as i can tell so far it came out of the oiling port, and/or was residual oil from that area.
bare in mind it's an 18v saw, ideal for a bit of work around the yard or fire wood for camping. If you need more grunt get the 36v or check the reviews on yt
Ron Hickmott yes I know, I’ve got a 36v ozito brand one and it works great. The higher Voltage is definitely better for more grunt and I’ve cut through some decent size logs and as long as u don’t it too hard it does the job.... Good value for money I reckon
Yeah, it seems you can’t really apply any serious pressure (well, it can’t take such abuse as big petrol saws and that makes perfect sense, it’s about 500w I guess not much more). I have cut quite a lot of softwood and a bit of hardwood (slightly seasoned ash) with it and it worked very nicely. It’s not for felling and cutting large logs of course but I still love it, the power/weight ratio is very good, 15cm softwood is no problem, the saw throws big chips of wood. On my unit there’s very little leakage, there were some drops under that rubbery thingy under the saw, behind the chain, don’t know what it’s called...
Depends how long you want it to last before you might need to change the battery. I only have 3 and 4 amp batteries but if i had bigger i would consider using them. Are the 5 and 6 amp heavier than the 3 and 4? I often use the saw one handed so in those applications i might avoid extra weight.
Comparison of chain speed with "no load", it's the same like comparison of wheel speeds of tractor and moped, which spinning in the air. Which as you can understand, says you nothing about actual output power (or sawing perfomance) So, you shall compare them both under "work load".
Yes i would be happy to compare any number of chainsaws if they want to provide me with them. The no load chain speed does affect performance, it affects vibration, start up time, etc, but yes, it is by no means a full measure.
I hate this feature that shuts the saw of after 1 sec of not operating it. It's annoying as hell. Makita hedge trimmer I bought 2 years ago shuts off automatically after one minute. SO you can leave it in the ground for 50 sec, pick it up and continue. But the pole hedge trimmer I've bought a few days ago - boom, the same feature as on the DUC254 chainsaw.. I'm searching for an electronic geek who can take it apart and over ride this feature. I'm even willing to forget about the warranty, just make it go away..Pleeeeease..
@@rhetth-s8082 ya te heat is the main enemy here unless the tips were diamond or carbide. On the other side chains are not expensive so I guess its ok to change them everyfew uses especially when money is no a issue.
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Thanks mate, I'm getting it. I have 4 Husqvarna chainsaws, this will be perfect for what I need it for. To anyone else reading this comment or the ones who have commented and been disappointed that it cut out:- all chainsaws should not be pushed, but allow the speed of the chain and the chain to cut the material. Your first cut illustrates how material should be cut. Great review, thanks
Thanks Rhett a good clear and unhurried review. I got fed up with my heavy corded chainsaw and ordered one of these. I then looked at your review afterwoods as you do. I am now confident I made the right choice.
Cheers for putting the video together. I've exactly same use case as you, Aussie outback, camping, good to know it makes short work of whats out there. Thanks again.
Very nice review! Thank you. Only thing I would add is that a key less chain tightening and bar removal are worse... you loose a lot of stability and tightening power (usually). Also, I think you had your chain too loose. Remember, after working the chain loosens with heat.
Thank you very much Rhett, for that excellent review, a quality, informative and helpful review. I have the bigger (top of the line) DUC353 which is fantastic, but i am now definately getting this awesome little bugger for smaller jobs (and the Missuz) lol ...Cheers Rhett : )
You used real wood...good to see. Thanks for the review.
I wonder how this model compares to makitas chainsaw with 2x18v batteries the older model
It is the best video I have seen yet
Great review and demonstration - thanks
Excellent information, just what is required. Cheers.
Great Review! Helped me make a purchase :) Thanks
Thanks for your helpful video!
Thanks Cobber.
I'm considering this model to replace a 'husky' which is costing a lot to use thanks to the people in Canberra increasing excise + GST on petrol.
I already have a powerful Stihl mains electric chainsaw, so I'm not going to be asking this one to do what I'd be better using the Stihl for. This looks perfect for hedge laying, pruning and a little light chainsaw carving.
I have cut up a fair bit with this chainsaw now. The convenience of battery electric and near silence means i always grab it first if it can do the job. Cutting up hardwood the length of the bar on a hot day is the limit of it and it can becoming annoying but i still choose it over my petrol chainsaw. It is particularly good at pruning, and i often use it one handed, making sure my face and body is not in the line of the cut. I havent done wood carving but i wonder if it would be more suited to that than anything else on the market, unless having a cord makes an equivalent chainsaw even lighter.
A higher amp hour battery doesn't improve amp output, only run time. As a matter of fact, the problem that battery chemists encounter is getting higher capacity batteries to output high current (amps). It's usually a trade off. The higher the capacity (amp hours) the lower the current (amps) output. So, if anything, 3 Ah batteries are better at high drain than 5, or 6 amp hour batteries. This is why it has taken so long to develop the longer lasting tool batteries. The longer they last the lower their output level needs to be. Makita's 6Ah batteries seem to output similar levels as the 3Ah, but not any higher.
I once had a single battery Makita saw. It was much smaller and had a brushed motor. This saw is extracting an impressive output from 10 18650 cells in a single LXT battery. The outer rotor brushless motor must achieve astronomical efficiency! Cutting limbs with a single small tool battery blows my mind. I think Makita ought to make LXT batteries with 15 cells. They would be a little thicker, but it would spread the amp load out so as not to over tax the cells too much. That would allow them to make 9 Ah LXTs.
That's interesting to hear. The EGO chainsaws allow a higher current draw from the larger capacity batteries which results in more power.
The reason the saw has a cut out is to protect the motor. If the saw is overloaded (say pushing too hard) and the motor slows down too much, current through the motor can rise to a very high level which can damage the motor. The saw has a circuit which monitors motor current and cuts power to the motor when it gets too high. If you want to go hard, you should look at a more powerful saw or a petrol version.
So are you saying that this model cuts better than the two battery model because of the higher speed? I just bought the DUC302z for trimming small branches and am now worried I should have bought this one instead? Good review btw.
If you are doing work up a ladder or in a tree or doing fast light work or you are a small or elderly person you might be better off swapping?
Otherwise the 302 may have more torque, so cutting might not be much different?
I havent used a 302, only seen video.
@@rhetth-s8082 thanks mate.
Thanks good review
Hi, thank you for the summary, can I ask you how much will the 3A battery last ?
Thats hard to say. As a rough guide I did a days work and used about 6 batteries.
@@rhetth-s8082 thank you im consider a small chainsaw but for my needs I don't think I require an petrol powered I find the battery just fine but wanted to check with people who have it, have lots of makita battery equipment though
awesome review
Nice video. Have you used it much more and does it keep cutting out?
I havent used it much yet, but that was the only time it cut out.
Rhett H-S Do you reckon it could manage plunge cuts?
@@wildlifeecology yes i would think so. It cut out because i pushed it as hard as i push my stihl woodboss, which is a medium sized chainsaw.
good job 👍🏻
A bit disappointed that it seems to cut out so easily but I guess its a bit hard to tell how much pressure u were applying in the video.... Does the chain bar oil leak from the tank when not in use?
I also have a Stihl Woodboss which is a mid sized petrol chainsaw. I might have put about the kind of pressure that can handle into the makita. So its no surprise it cut out.
I noticed some oil on its bottom, but as far as i can tell so far it came out of the oiling port, and/or was residual oil from that area.
bare in mind it's an 18v saw, ideal for a bit of work around the yard or fire wood for camping. If you need more grunt get the 36v or check the reviews on yt
Its meant for tree top use for arborist and smaller branches, and even a stronger petrol saw can get stuck.
Ron Hickmott yes I know, I’ve got a 36v ozito brand one and it works great. The higher Voltage is definitely better for more grunt and I’ve cut through some decent size logs and as long as u don’t it too hard it does the job.... Good value for money I reckon
Yeah, it seems you can’t really apply any serious pressure (well, it can’t take such abuse as big petrol saws and that makes perfect sense, it’s about 500w I guess not much more). I have cut quite a lot of softwood and a bit of hardwood (slightly seasoned ash) with it and it worked very nicely. It’s not for felling and cutting large logs of course but I still love it, the power/weight ratio is very good, 15cm softwood is no problem, the saw throws big chips of wood. On my unit there’s very little leakage, there were some drops under that rubbery thingy under the saw, behind the chain, don’t know what it’s called...
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5 amp battery for heavy work like. You just eat up the batteries to quick useing 3amp.
it's good that it cuts out under duress. Means you wont over heat chain and burn off oil etc.
Or burn out the electric motor.
Would you recommend 5ah or 6ah for this chainsaw?
Depends how long you want it to last before you might need to change the battery. I only have 3 and 4 amp batteries but if i had bigger i would consider using them. Are the 5 and 6 amp heavier than the 3 and 4? I often use the saw one handed so in those applications i might avoid extra weight.
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Comparison of chain speed with "no load", it's the same like comparison of wheel speeds of tractor and moped, which spinning in the air.
Which as you can understand, says you nothing about actual output power (or sawing perfomance)
So, you shall compare them both under "work load".
Yes i would be happy to compare any number of chainsaws if they want to provide me with them.
The no load chain speed does affect performance, it affects vibration, start up time, etc, but yes, it is by no means a full measure.
I hate this feature that shuts the saw of after 1 sec of not operating it. It's annoying as hell. Makita hedge trimmer I bought 2 years ago shuts off automatically after one minute. SO you can leave it in the ground for 50 sec, pick it up and continue. But the pole hedge trimmer I've bought a few days ago - boom, the same feature as on the DUC254 chainsaw.. I'm searching for an electronic geek who can take it apart and over ride this feature. I'm even willing to forget about the warranty, just make it go away..Pleeeeease..
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The faster the chain runs the faster it gets dull. Slower chains can last sharp much longer
With a slower chain either it cuts slower or more pressure is put on it. They shouldnt have pressure put on them.
@@rhetth-s8082 That is true but still longer chain life
@@wd9102 less heat?
I dont see focus in industry on lowering chain speed.
@@rhetth-s8082 ya te heat is the main enemy here unless the tips were diamond or carbide. On the other side chains are not expensive so I guess its ok to change them everyfew uses especially when money is no a issue.