Inside Look: Makita 18V X2 (36V) LXT Brushless Cordless 16” Chainsaw XCU04
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- Makita’s 16” Battery-powered chainsaw was released over a year ago, and today it’s still one of the top professional electric chainsaws on the market. As the debate between gas and electric chainsaws continues, we gave it to our friends at Aluhm & Arbor Tree Preservation to put it through its paces on the jobsite and decide if it deserves a spot on a professional tree truck. This is your Inside Look at the Makita 16” Electric Chainsaw.
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I’m using the Makita XCU03 (same as the xcu04 shorter bar) right now to cut firewood from a large pile of mixed hardwood logs that didn't get to the mill. Most of the wood is larger than 16” diameter so it requires continuous duty working around from one side to another. Oak, hickory, black walnut, some poplar.
I installed a 16” bar with full chisel chain. I cut my wood in 9” lengths. Of course shorter wood requires twice as many cuts, but the pieces are easier for me to lift and split. I fill a small trailer 5’x4’x2’ above the side rails, which is near the maximum I want to pull with a small RZR side by side. This usually takes a set of 6 Ah and one set of 5 Ah batteries. Sometimes I need a little extra so I carry some of my older lower capacity 3 and 4 Ah batteries if I need to finish off. It’s real important to me to know I have a bag-o-batteries so that the job always gets finished. I already had quite a few XLT batteries. The bar oil always lasts throughout the job, that is, several sets of batteries, so I never need carry oil.
If I were cutting 18” long pieces I think this saw might cut an 8’ pickup load of wood with two sets of 6 Ah batteries and one oil fill up. The 16 inch bar with full chisel chain seems to cut much faster than the Makita 14 inch bar and chain that came on it. I bought both bar and chain for $30 on Ebay. Archer brand - made in Australia.
I get to rest for 45 minutes or so after unloading while my batteries recharge (in more ways than one). I like that! I’m 70.
The bag of batteries is a must if you want to do some real work. i have 4x5A and 2x3A and i can get a lot of work done. A single set is too little.
I'm using a new 14 inch oregon bar and a round ground oregon chain. I also noticed the round ground (semi-chisel it think) throws bigger chips than the original and the cuts go much faster. The original chain is not very good.
Thanks for chatting with me. I like talking about my saw. The Archer bar chain I'm using is fantastic. It's very durable and cuts faster. Full chisel is the way to go, especially with battery saws. The 16 inch bar with this chain cuts faster than my 14 with anti-kickback chain.
I have six recharge stations, 4 singles and a double. I now have two sets of 6Ah batteries, one set of 5Ah, one set of 4Ah and a whole pile of 3Ah batteries from years gone by.
My chargers are all connected to a watt meter. When I'm loaded up really heavy with all that I dare tow on steep hillsides with my Polaris RZR side by side, it typically takes between 500 and 650 watt hours to recharge. Of course, it doesn't matter which batteries I decide to use. I rarely ever use more than 6 batteries by the time I'm done. I usually put 6 in the sack and 2 on the saw when I go to cut wood. If I were to cut 18 inch length instead of 9 inch, I could envision that this amount of energy would buck up a really heavy duty pickup load from the logs I'm cutting.
My wood is split and in a lose pile. It's hard to say how many cords I have cut with just batteries at this point, but I'm guessing between 10 to 20 full cords. I've had no problems with the Makita. I did tape down the top safety trigger on the handle, this gives you a minute or more before the saw shuts down to move wood around.
@@geraldmoore6257 did not try a larger bar but what I know is that the new chain, sharpenable by file, is a lot better than the original.
You did mention 5-600 watts to charge so this is so efficient compared to a corded saw that uses at least 1800watts per hour to 2200, even 3000. If we do the same math on the gas saw then the gas saw will look really bad being a combustion engine.
Really like the saw.
Ps: In Europe it is named DUC353Z.
And... You are welcome 😀
Hey, thanks for continuing the conversation. Here is some more info related to what you are saying. What I am going to tell you is never mentioned anywhere. I wish battery saws would give you horsepower or watts, these are power units and could be used by the consumer to decide what saw they need.
500 watt-hours isn’t horse-power or output wattage and you can’t translate conventional corded brushed saw wattage directly to horsepower because they are inefficient.
The Makita uses two 10 cell batteries or 20 each 18650 Lithium cells. Each cell can output 70 watts each, therefore the Makita battery saw motor is using 70 x 20 or 1400 watts @ peak power, that’s 1.88 horsepower. This is the equivalent of a brushed corded saw running at 1750 watts due to a 20% efficiency gain from the brushless DC motor.
Note that you’re not running a chainsaw continuously. At 1400 watts continuous peak the saw only can only run 21 minutes. But saws don't run continuous, sometimes they don’t draw full power and sometimes they aren’t running at all. It takes me over an hour to get a load, but I’m loading and moving wood or going from one spot to another.
Some battery saws are more powerful, albeit much, much heavier. Most use the same 18650’s, but some use 20700's or 26650’s or a greater number of batteries and can therefore output more continuous power and drive longer bars. For example, a certain Echo battery has 28 18650 cells each capable of outputting about 70 watts each. That’s 70x28, or 1960 watts continuous power or 2.6HP - Wow.
Amazingly however, the Makita 6Ah battery set contains approximately the same total energy, 218 versus 204 watt hours for that Echo. That means both saws should cut the same amount of wood on a battery set, albeit, the Makita SHOULD be a bit slower. For me, the important part is not speed, but weight. The Makita does it with close to half the weight. Who wants to trim limbs with a 20 pound bowling ball when the maximum allowable weight for a bowling ball is 18 pounds?
Hi Gerald, Which Archer Bar and Chain did you get, I want to get the same for mine. Thanks, JT
I used this chainsaw as a home defense.
It’s more of a concealed carry kinda saw for me
Nice review. Actually, I was surprised these were lighter.
Just bought an XCU03 14" I'm wondering how clean it will stay inside the bar housing.
Good review!
This is a not a replacement for 60cc pro gas saws! This is more like a 35cc.
This a adequate saw for orchard, around the home work, buckin and such.
No fuel mix, no fumes, no cold engine, no cord pulling, no spark plug, low noise, silent at idle, no gas smell, no need for screnches. Just fill some bar oil, fit the batteries in, push the button and go to work.
If one want to do more work then get more battery sets. With 4x5amps and 2x3amps I can work for around two hours.
It can use 16 inch bar but never felt the need to go beyond 14 inch.
One thing i advise you is to replace the chain. Bough a round ground oregon chain and it throws much bigger chips than the original one. The original chain is less agressive and has to be gound using a machine. The cutting speed went up dramatically. It also improves the amount of work one can do with it.
You are right about the chain. I replaced my 14" with a 16" Archer bar and chain. I could only get full chisel chain. I'm glad because the saw cuts faster and more total cuts than with the shorter bar that came with the XCU03. The 16" chains are $10 and the bar was $20. I like the Archer chain much better than the Oregon anti-kickback chain.
I cut up the equivalent of 20 cords of timber logs into firewood last winter. Logs ranging from 12 to 25 inches. The saw uses about 500 to 600 watt-hours of batteries for half a (full) cord. Two battery swap outs (3 battery sets) usually cuts that much with some power left. I have the chargers plugged into a watt-o-meter. That's how I know how much electricity is used. The rating on Makita batteries is spot on.
Hi, I am trying to figure out the difference between the makita xcu09pt and the makita xcu04pt1 besides body style and price? One response is: "The XCU09PT is more for climbing and liming, you can use it with one hand. The XCU04PT1 is more for cutting trees, and rounds." Does that seem accurate to you? Thanks for the helpful videos!
Great review👌
how about locking the side cover bolt in place
Замечательная пила, но для высоты лучше одноручную использовать, типа 302Z
You need a HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE, MAKITA VS MILWAUKEE
Luke S Also add the EGO with their 7ah battery
Tried this and it does not have as much power
Any comparison should be done with equal power batteries. 2 Makita 6 Ah batteries have the same power as Milwaukee's 12 Ah battery that weighs a pound more. The chains should be the same as well a full chisel chain cuts faster but kicks back more.
Makita is much better
The Milwaukee probably has a bit more power, but the Makita is better construction and higher quality overall. I hope in the future they'll have pro saws with magnesium alloy body instead of full fiberglass plastic
I put a Stihl chain on mine and it's unstoppable now
Water will stop it.
Mine doesn't plunge cut very well... still have original chain.. does the stihl chain make a difference....??
smokingcheeba420 it won’t. I use mine in the rain all the time.
I put a 16" Archer bar and full chisel Archer chain on mine. Made a significant improvement for only $30 total. $20 bar and $10 chain. The Archer chain is really impressive!
I just bought a XCU03. Like the idea of the longer bar and better chain.
This is a good thing
I don't think you can technically call that a clutch. It's a chain break. There is no clutch mechanism needed for this type saw.
Thank you...
I was thinking the same thing 🤔
Great to see the saw taken apart to see how is better made and engineered than the harbor freight atlas I was considering. I have stihl saws but have been wanting to add a quiet battery saw. Leaning towards the Makita plus they have a two free battery deal in may ‘20.
Would be a good idea if a light came on when the bar oil goes low as there is a different type of power/fuel being used.
Erwin List
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I got this saw, but they do not sell replacements chains, they keep sending. .050 and they do not fit, it needs a .043, which you can't find any place. If you guys have a place to buy please send me link. Thank You
Oregon sells replacement chains and bars for them.
Can this chainsaw be fitted with an 18 inch bar?
Yes
สวัสดี XCU04 ต่างกันอย่างไรกับ XCU03 และ XCU07 ขอบคุณ
Nice video what's the price for the kit. Thank you
I'm in the UK but not having much luck finding this model,is this the latest out,or whats the equilivant please
Hey Andrew,
I live in the Netherlands.
But the UK & European modelname is DUC353z.
Have this saw for 3 months now and it's an fantastic replacement for my Stihl 1986 motorised saw (also working like new).
How much makita costs in euros
@@xrobotxrobot384 hey the makita DUC353z costs between €240,- (without a single batt recharger & batt) & about €360,- (with a 5ah batt & double recharger)
@@kevinwillems2656 Where can i buy it in Munich Germany at sale:) thanks
I just bought one and I keep finding new model numbers out there which are identicle to me, there’s a chainsaw/charger/4 battery kit at HD but there are at least 3 versions of the 14 incher(I meant to buy 16”) but f D ones anuone know the difference in the different model numbers? 2 are $389, one is $399 and I just wanna throw a line out for some info if anyone went that deep in their research
Either way gonna keep mine I’m 94% sure but... anyone know the differences?
HD does those little tricks with their pricing. I only follow Makita, but they probably do it with other brands too. They do it with circular saws, impact drivers, etc...... Sometimes you can get a 4 battery kit for the same price as a 2 battery. I bought a Makita combo kit, and saved $100- just by switching the store code and having it shipped to my house from across the country. Makes no sense,... much like buying a car from a dealership with all the trickery. You really have to look at every option in the tool category you want to get a good deal. You will often see the same exact thing presented 3 different ways.
@@matthoward1174 yeah I’m happy with my Makita, waited for the extra battery deals, chainsaw with 4 batteries, the circ also w/ 4 batteries, a drill with 1, so bare tools on sale are what I’ll look for next, also bought the usb charger that fits on the battery so if the power ever went out I’d have usb power for days lol
Hey guys. Any negatives here. I'm guessing there would be at least a few.
Having spent a few hours running saws I believe what he was saying was will any electric saw replace my gas saw. Oh hell no! For the home gamers in the back yard fine. Also when you say you're going to take it apart I was assuming it was going to be AVE style. A bit disappointed in that all he did was take the bar off. Come on open that baby up let's see what makes it chooch!
I have not found anybody who takes tools apart like AVE. He did though pull apart the dewalt saw and he was very negative towards the plastic tooless bar ratchet mechanism. Makita does sell the LXT saw with the old duel nut style which should outlast the saw itself
not one mention of battery life. the clear obvious limitation of an electric chainsaw.
My neighbors an arborist specialized in precision jobs in tight spaces and such.
He uses a battery powered husqvarna (?????) exclusively. One charge lasts him an entire day (2-3 large trees). Cuts anything up to 10 inches off and then switches to a larger gas powered saw to take out the really big branches and to cut the stem itself.
I would say this one’s a tad too large for what these guys would use it for. No one is going to make 1500 cuts a day with a battery powered saw, you’ve got gas for that (or corded when on the ground).
Currently the niche for battery powered saws in this business is in light, small and portable saws for work high up in the trees themselves.
@@wippip
Husquavarna makes a backpack battery.
You missed several things on that. More of an emphasis on oil and the chain would be appropriate.
The big problem with this is the designers decided to turn it off when you release the trigger. If you want to fell and check the cut the saw has turned itself off after 10 seconds or less.
Leave the damned thing on
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The tooless adjuster is a con, the bar is not held as well with a single fastener vs 2 on a standard saw
Adam Petten they have a variant with traditional 2 bolts and tightening mechanism. The single fastener does great. It’s not the same as the garbage dewalt clutch tighting where it limits how much you can tighten the bar. This single bolt clamps as hard as you want it. Tool-less adjuster works great too. It will tighten the chain to the point where it’s impossible to rotate the chain.
You obviously have only used other tools adjusters. Makita's is different in this regard.
@@banannaninja I have a corded electric Makita chainsaw, and the chain tension adjust knob is designed for hand tightening.
and I managed to bend the steel tightening screw, and had to buy that part, which was only couple dollars,
but there is right hand twist screw, and left hand twist screw, which look exactly the same, except for the direction of twist,
and I ordered the wrong part, and had to reorder the correct part.
been using this for months to fall tress, buck them, chop branches. the holding mechanism is tight. i never felt the need to tighten it more. the tensioning also works fine. i've had some issues in the begining when i started using it but never since then. (never used a saw before this one). the saw is legit and dependable
Seems to work well and not had a problem with it
Oils the chain. Not a blade.
Why would he maybe not want to use it in a tree???
Too long
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I am a very loyal Makita customer. But this saw is by far the worst Makita product I’ve ever purchased. Maybe I got a dud but I’ve read a lot of online comments with the same problems.
Russell Cali don’t have absolutely any problems with mine.
Don't leave us hanging. What Problems?
no problems with mine. been using it all fall, winter and this spring. it's a great little saw and i highly recommend it!
Got mine last fall and have cut about 15 full face cords with not problems. Right away I taped down the top safety latch. The saw says on for over a minute so you can set it down and move stuff around.
What u recomend which makita is the best?
Annoying music.
Yeah, a battery powered saw compared to a Stihl MS362! What a fucking joke!