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  • @zerox5062
    @zerox5062 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The bonnie no face connection is really interesting

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you! It's by no means a confirmation but it was an interesting parallel!

  • @princess25599
    @princess25599 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I do believe Cassie’s dad is the Bonnie bully. The fact he can’t remember the bite makes me believe that the impact of the actual bite, made his brain forget automatically the incident to protect him psychologically. And William is trying to make him remember so he can kill him. However, maybe in future games, he’ll focus on the Freddy and Chica mask bullies too. My guess of why he targeted Cassie’s dad first was maybe he was Mike’s best friend and they both came up with the prank

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope we can learn of the other bullies too!

  • @vincentmorris8431
    @vincentmorris8431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There's also Fitzgerald believed to be the Bite of 87 victim.
    Like ooftroop said in their timeline, "Bonnie, possessed by little Jeremy Fitzgerald, was merely a prophecy of more face trauma to come for that bloodline."
    They also called Bonnie Mask Jeremy Fitzgerald II, kinda crazy what HW2 makes of it.
    Comparing the PQ4 graves to the FFPS screen, i could somewhat see it saying Charlie as Chica, Jeremy as Foxy, Fritz as Freddy, Susie as Bonnie, Gabriel as Golden Freddy, and Cassidy as the Puppet.
    And yes, Barbadroid does great art.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The idea of these character's 'bloodline' being their animatronic death trap rather than their human family line is hilarious to me. And accurate to the series.
      Yeah I used what I saw being the most commonly accepted interpretation of the graves in order for this theory. Unfortunately when it come to a series like FNAF we typically have to just pick what accepted theory cannons we are going to work with if we are going to come up with anything interesting. Its just important for us (me) to keep in mind that while that has been the most said and not 'corrected' in a future game, we can only use it as long as something else doesn't come along and make a compelling argument another way in the future.

  • @Echosinfireify
    @Echosinfireify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In all of the FNAF theory content I’ve seen, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone talk about Afton’s victimology. When people talk about why and how Afton kills it’s often put in very simplistic terms and people try to justify it. I think examining the victimology feels a lot more satisfying and thorough.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I've noticed a lot of videos trying to start figuring out the "why" but none of them looked into how I try and see serial killer study; criminal psychology. So I thought, hey why not do it myself lol.

  • @cosmiclily6872
    @cosmiclily6872 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This was a really fascinating video! I love bringing in the victimology aspect. Looking forward to more in the future!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I'm excited to dig more into this and other FNAF Theories!

  • @Mae-n4g
    @Mae-n4g 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You shouldn't have to worry so much about whether your contributions are unique enough, this is a great video and you're allowed to put your opinion out there. Tonnes of bigger channels just regurgitate their stuff anyway.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is very kind of you to say, and you are right of course. I wanted to make sure that I at least start off on the 'right food' in making sure I have something new to say. I need to remember that even if I say the same or similar thing as someone else, I can bring a new perspective or even just draw new attention to it.

  • @ethanpark8243
    @ethanpark8243 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a little late to this video, but omg I’m currently a psych student and the victimology connection is genuinely one of my favorite ways I’ve seen anyone discuss the Jeremy name connection! Loved this video and I’ve been on the fence about making my own videos about FNAF and genuinely this might have pushed me over the verge to do it! Thanks for an amazing video, I look forward to checking out the rest of your channels content!!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You aren't late! You are just in time for my upcoming follow up to this one. I'm currently almost done editing and it should be up soon. ;)
      I'm glad you like the psychological angle I took for my theory! I hope I can bring more to the concept. And I hope you make videos!

  • @efad3215
    @efad3215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Scuse me while I grab my heart from across the room......

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol I couldn't resist

  • @alysonberryhill4773
    @alysonberryhill4773 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:55 genuinely frickin scared me.😵😲😭😂 Nice theory!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol I had to do it. Thank you!

  • @Ingysta
    @Ingysta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this theory! I've always felt that the bully bros must've had some sort of connection to Afton's victims and the faceless Bonnie parallel really sells it!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also thought it was a really interesting connection and I was really excited when it came to me!

  • @eniagomezolle2757
    @eniagomezolle2757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I found this channel not that long ago because of the Rusty Lake video you posted (I'm so excited to see what you make of that, I absolutely adore Rusty Lake!) and when I saw you covered FNaF as well I was optimistic - let me tell you that despite having been around since the old ages of FNaF 2, I've never had a theory smack me in the face with a line as hard as "Withered Bonnie has no face" did. WOOOO this video was GREAT, can't wait to see what else you've got to add to the discussion! :)

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wow, thank you very much! It was a moment that hit me really hard too, I was literally laying in bed about to fall asleep and just up upright suddenly (my poor partner lol) like "WITHERD BONNIE HAS NO FACE!" and I tried to deliver it in the way I felt in that moment. I'm glad that shocked 'aha!' came across with a lot of people!
      Rusty Lake part 2 is coming, just a bit delayed when I realized I needed to get the stuff from the new game and levels in there, and then I will probably do another FNAF.

  • @huntersmith1943
    @huntersmith1943 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Continue this we need more angles to look at everything in this franchise

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I certainly will be and have some new scripts in the making 😀

    • @huntersmith1943
      @huntersmith1943 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zefiewings That is good to hear

  • @Mal-mq9fr
    @Mal-mq9fr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Plz do more fnaf ! While your video mentions some of the things Rye does, that’s gonna happen with fnaf TH-cam all the time. The Bonnie no-face connection & the victimology discussion was totally new to me though! Great job I can’t wait to see more !

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know some overlap is inevitable but I felt bad because I didn't want to just copy one of the big guys lol. But I'm glad I went forward with it and that I was able to bring a few new details into the mix!

  • @monstrdog7031
    @monstrdog7031 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Never heard of Jeremy possibly being one of Mike's alliases, but an interesting theory and dive into Willy's possible motives. I dont think Jeremy cut his whole face off and died there though, still cut it, perhaps the vanny or bonnie mask off, but I think hes the arcade conspirator for sb too

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats interesting! It's incredible how many different ways parts of FNAF can be interpreted. I had heard the arguments of people vehemently saying that Mike was pro-William, and others certain he was against him, but I hadn't heard I lot of people saying that they don't think Mike went back and was the protag for a lot of the old games.
      I don't know that he managed to cut off his face entirely, and I've certainly heard different interpretations to how extreme the series took it, but there being further Jeremy/Bonnie connections though that detail still seemed super interesting to me. I hadn't heard anything about the possibility of him living through it; though if it's in the new TOTPP books I am behind on buying those. I'm working on catching up but there are a lot of things to buy these days!

    • @monstrdog7031
      @monstrdog7031 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zefiewings I definitely think he was the protag for the old games, just fritz and Mike Schmidt, not Jeremy lol. The game points me more to Jeremy being switched to the dayshift and becoming the victim of the bite of 87 (he is told to stay close to the animatronics). As for Mike, I think it's likely he was manipulated by William pre-SL, so a reluctant accomplice in going and tampering with the animatronics. I think rye or id actually theorized that hw1 Jeremy survived- the Halloween mask on the floor potentially being an actual mask, possibly a vanny mask he cut off. It really is an interesting thing how many ways things can be looked at!

  • @ironmuro
    @ironmuro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the FNAF 2 guard that is Mike is Fritz Smith not Jeremy Fitzgerald. However, that does leave a guard we don't know. However I have a solution. So Cassie's Dad is theorized to be Bonnie Bro and named Jeremy right?What if he is the same Jeremy in FNAF 2? Well if Jeremy is Bonnie Bro, and Fritz is Mike... Is it possible they are BOTH using the names of the kids that match the mask they wore in FNAF 4 as guards in FNAF 2? Matching the graves from Pizzeria Simulator to the animatronic heads in FNAF 3. Bonnie would be matched to Jeremy and Foxy would be matched to Fritz.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And interestingly in the novels, Micheal is the name of the one who is in Foxy!
      Yes luckily it still works no matter which guard is him, there is still a victim he is calling himself after. Ive heard some say they both him and that he just came right back after being fired, and while I don't know if I buy into that it would be really strong for this case were it true.
      I'll dig more into this angle, thank you!

    • @zetorocks811
      @zetorocks811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zefiewingsMichael is the name of the kid in Golden Freddy, Fritz is still Foxy

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @zetorocks811 lmao shoot that's right.
      The book facts keep getting tangled in my head.

  • @flexofrex8318
    @flexofrex8318 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Love this so much thank you for an informative video about FNAF 😊

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're welcome! I'm really happy with how it turned out!

  • @survivordave
    @survivordave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! The victimology angle and especially the faceless Withered Bonnie are great new ideas. Subscribed to see what you have for us in the future 😀

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I've already got some other thoughts about how Aftons psychology might be connected to some unanswered questions and some other things that are different ideas altogether. Working on them getting up soon!

  • @justnyi
    @justnyi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I actually love this theory, and the fact that you brought in real life information to make connections but by far that withered Bonnie connection was crazily amazing!!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you! I thought that was a super weird and interesting connection too and was really excited to talk about it!

  • @Gabriel_D3ath
    @Gabriel_D3ath 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please, we need more of your theories, you're golden!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Working on what ones will be next!

  • @FNAFGamer_2023
    @FNAFGamer_2023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really liked your video!! I’d love to see more theories from you!!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! You will!

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why did William Afton kill and put Susie's body into Chica if he was just looking for substitutes for Michael and his friends? She's a girl. Were any of Michael's friends girls? Chica was originally the female of the Fazbear group. So, if all of the missing kids are kids that resemble the boys that murdered "Evan", why did William Afton go after a girl? I would think his MO would be to attack males, mainly little boys and male security guards. I know he killed Charlie because William was bitter and angry towards Henry Emily for ruining his business. But, besides Charlie, why go after girls when most of William's victims are male?

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In this proposed theory the kid in the Chika mask could be a girl. We know nothing about the Bully kids other than that they are friends with Mike and like Freddie's enough to dress up when hanging out there, and one could easily have been a girl. I think the original designs of all the bullies were intentionally vague so they could have been whatever kind of character more or less.

  • @richardarrington7527
    @richardarrington7527 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great introspection, keep it up.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I already have some other details that line up with this idea that I cant wait to talk about!

    • @richardarrington7527
      @richardarrington7527 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @zefiewings I look forward to hearing your thoughts in future videos. You're very welcome, you got this.

  • @violetroy6875
    @violetroy6875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video is rlly interesting, and your thoughts on the victimology stuff are super smart! I was wondering if you've read the new TFTPP story Dittophobia, because it's affected my understanding of William and his motives a lot. Since now it sort of seems like William had planned to harm his youngest son from the beginning (in the experiment), It makes it more difficult (but somehow more interesting) to try and figure out if he had any sort of emotional charge AT ALL behind his killings. If you have any thoughts on that, I'd love to hear them! :-)

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unfortunately, the one bad thing about being a FNAF theorist is it's getting prohibitively expensive. I just finished purchasing the Fazbear Frights set so TFTPP is next as soon as I can, but I haven't gotten a chance to add those to my knowledge yet.
      The good (good?) news is that as a psychopath his possible intent to harm his kids doesn't stop it from being a trigger! Afton would consider his children his property, his to use how necessary and no one else's. His rage at his loss is not out of love, not love as we know it, but the loss of something belonging to him. In fact, if he had a particular use for him, someone taking that away would be more enraging.
      It's important to remember that a trigger like this doesn't turn a regular person into a psychopath. He always was one. If Afton was a regular man driven temporarily insane by the loss of his son, it COULD drive him to take the life of the bully who did it. It would not drive him to become a serial killer and to perform experiment after experiment. At most, this was the moment where he stopped holding back those perverse thoughts and desires. This is defiantly something I plan to dig into more in a future video.

  • @MuguOfficial
    @MuguOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you :)

  • @godsgirl487
    @godsgirl487 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    this video makes me want to finally play FNAF!!!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The only problem is that sometimes you are so busy not getting your face bitten off its hard to look for lore lmao

  • @zerox5062
    @zerox5062 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to know more about who you think we play as in both fnaf 1 and fnaf 2. The evidence for Micheal Afton is very good but I've always found that William Afton is also a good Canidate for playing the security guard because of how aggressive the animatronics are especially if William is going back to collect remnant in the metal like the mini games we see in fnaf 3. It would make sense because the animatronics are so aggressive towards the player and it's the only time we've seen the original spirits be upset in their original form except for custom night. We know William has an affinity for using aliases and in the slips it says he tampers with the animatronics. I don't fully believe in this theory, but I do think it's a good draw back to silver eyes where William goes back as a security guard to Freddy's under an Alis. We never see mike use aliases, but William uses them all the time. It would also explain why the fnaf 2 facial recognition software goes off and why the player is so good at dealing with the animatronics and why someone would go back to the locations after they're closed. If Micheal is really looking for William I think it's hard to believe he spent that much time going to each location instead of William dying and being found from one of the original locations. This is just a thought and I need to piece it together more, but I would love to know your opinion.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those are some strong evidence points, and I like where your head is at. I feel like at that point he would already be trapped in Springtap though? So I am not too sure. But if you are Micheal, a kid who has been commented on to look a lot like his dad, that could also explain their aggression, maybe they just think he is his dad. And him following in his father's footsteps by mirroring what he does in the books also works from a storytelling perspective.
      As it stands, I am currently of the opinion that Mike Schmidt of FNAF 1 is Mike Afton, with his 'odour' being a nod towards his zombie-izm from being scooped in sister location.
      I thought that Jeremy Fitzgerald was also Mike when I wrote this, hence my pointing out the name honouring, but I've actually changed my mind after watching RyeToast and I am coming around to this Jeremy also being Cassie's dad. However, if that is the case, I do believe that Fritz Smith is Mike, and in fact, had I thought about it more it makes far more sense for this guard to be Mike anyway since he also goes by the generic last name, very similar to the alias from 1 (Schmidt vs Smith) and he is also fired for odour, so this feels like the same guy from 1. We know that Micheal was probably at the FNAF 2 locations because of his doodles in the security logbook.
      LUCKILY this doesn't change my comment on his psychological connection with honouring names, because he still chose to honour one of the kid's names with that alias, Fritz.
      I think I will talk about this in the follow-up video for this sone. Thank you for bringing it up!

  • @marissaibarra148
    @marissaibarra148 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was waiting for someone to talk about this ever since i saw the achievement name!! This is such a satisfying theory my autism is going crazy!!!❤

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! As soon as I saw it my mind was buzzing like "OH THIS IS THE ONE!" lmao

  • @MichaelaDobransky
    @MichaelaDobransky 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love fnaf theories

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Its so fun to thinking about it even if its silly and makes no sense sometimes lmao

  • @knightyknightmare9074
    @knightyknightmare9074 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    (Creepy voice) I will watch your career with great interest
    Jokes aside, I really hope to see more videos from you! I think the victimology angle is really interesting and I can’t wait to see what else you bring to the table!

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol thank you! Hopefully my career goes a little better than Anakin's did!
      Next script is in the works!

  • @Echosinfireify
    @Echosinfireify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the rusty lake image in the background, and also the jackalope mount. Plus trans inclusive and poly and FNAF? It’s like you were engineered in a lab to create the perfect content creator for me

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! My mom bought me that beautiful art piece, but its so shiny I have to put a spacer back there while recording to put it on an angle, otherwise my ring light is insanely bright in it.
      The Jackalope/winged Jackalope has always been my favorite fantasy creature, so my sister made me that for streaming since my logo is a Jackalope.
      And I wanted to make sure I got a pride flag in there from day one, so that people know whats up around here as far as what kind of comments will/will not be acceptable. Establish that safe space early!

  • @jchacho6335
    @jchacho6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cassie’s dad can’t be Bonnie bro. He was at least 12 in 1983 - probably older. It is now 2035 when HW2, Security Breach, and Ruin take place. Which makes Bonnie bro at least 64. It is highly unlikely that he has a 12 year old daughter.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wouldn't be common but I wouldn't call that definitive proof otherwise. But I would need a bit more than that to disregard the Bully Bro theory because it has a lot going for it, and certainly, I am not the only one to think so.
      On another note where did you find the exact year of Security Breach?

    • @jchacho6335
      @jchacho6335 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zefiewings the calendar and a date on a picture.

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jchacho6335 nice, its good to have that information I missed that one.

  • @Crazykyle2727
    @Crazykyle2727 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New here, what is the crow😭

    • @zefiewings
      @zefiewings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      which crow?
      The one in the picture behind me? That's from an indie series I love called Rusty Lake, I did a video on that too.
      Or The Crow that my goodbye quote comes from? That's a horror movie/comic called The Crow.
      Or did I mention it somewhere else that I've forgotten? Lmao