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Wow! Thank you very much

Thank you! A video in progess right now :)

lol You are Welcome! I'm glad it helped and thank you for watching!

@zefiewings I have played all rusty lake games it was just amazing. Thank you for explaining everything 🙏🏻

Thank you :)

Thank you very much! This was a very difficult project but I'm thrilled with how it turned out and how helpful people seem to find it. A new video with more explanation and a bit more theory is on the way!

Yes! and no... The characters in Hotel have established backstories that seem to contradict them being exactly the same characters. For example when Hotel was announced there were character profiles that included Height, Age and Profession. And if we look at Mr. Boar's announcement it says he is 52. That would make his birthday around 1841 with Hotel taking place in 1893. But obviously, that's not Gerard's birthday (the uncle who wears the boar mask) with Paradise taking place in 1796. Well then maybe it just froze them at their age, after all, they didn't actually say Mr. Boar's birthday is 1841 just that he is 52, and Gerard seems like he could be 52. Except that it's not that simple either since Mrs. Pigeon is listed as 39 and the family member who wears the Pigeon mask is Margaret..., Gerard's mom. So that doesn't work. HOWEVER, we can't say it's just a coincidence because Mr. Rabbit is explicitly called D. Eilander in Paradox. Here's what it seems like to me: Unlike Jacob who was Transformed immediately into Mr. Owl the rest of the family was reborn after the fact into the animal characters. They have different lives and jobs and at least some of them are aware of their past lives but a rebirth is a separate character like William and Laura and different from transformations like Jacob (Owl) and Alduos (Crow).

I truly don't even know what to say to this... Congratulations?? For being weird??

@@icosahedron3 thx. was born weird and queer. Really, just being a furry is a bonus. xD

lmao no no you're just Enlightened ;)

@@zefiewings after all these disney furry movies. yes xD

@@Absbor it adds to character! Just means you're not boring lol. Sorry if i came off as mean earlier, 😅

Thank you! I'm excited to get more out there!

I have a lot planned don't worry!

@@zefiewings lets gooooo ΦωΦ

Thank you :)

Honestly, I still don't know what is going on with "changing the past" with the blue cubes. That is, for my money, the most complex part of the whole series. I have quite a few Rusty Lake explanation videos lined up for different elements of the series but the one about the Blue Cubes is probably the most speculative.

​​@zefiewings Yeah, they never really did elaborate on the blue cube like they have with the gold cube in recent games. Like, at least we know what the gold cubes do now what with cube escape: paradox and the past within. And looking at how the story might progress next, I don't think it'll be explored all that much. Certainly, not enough to focus an entire game around it. The most the series ever plays with them were in earlier games like cube escape: seasons and cube escape: birthday. Although I do think it's fitting that it took place at the beginning of Dale and Laura's respective character development. If you take into account one of the major themes in Rusty Lake, that of trauma (specifically how one heals from, or atleast makes peace with their past truama), I think it's important to give Dale and Laura the chance to change one of the most traumatic parts in their past (the murder of Dale's family and Laura's suicide) into a 'what if?' Scenario, in order to bring them closure, before they can make peace with the reality that actually happened. I think it's best exemplified with Dale's memories of his 9th birthday in cube escape: birthday. We see how 9yo Dale changes the events of his past in order to prevent the deaths of his family. Which is what present-day Dale wished he could've done. But it didn't stop Dale from being able to face his parent's murder, confront Mr. Rabbit, and ultimately take complete agency of a situation where he felt powerless as a young boy in order to become an 'enlightened' being. So I think "changing the past" in regards to the blue cube don't necessarily mean literally changing the events that occurred in the past, but rather that it changes the past in a way that brings one closure so that you may start to heal from your past traumas and move on with your life. Also, you notice how the blue cubes are more often used as plot devices rather than the main objective of any game they're in. Unlike the white, black, and gold cubes. EDIT: I added so many things hours after posting this comment, so I'm sorry if my thoughts sound very scrambled 😅

Thank you very much! Ive been trying to articulate what this comment means to me but there isn't a really good way to say it. I'll just say thank you so much! I did put a lot of work into this video, both the video (with my little 8bit kidnapping recreations lol) and the theory itself. I know that there are still a lot of people that dont believe the 'grave order' from Help Wanted 2 but I wanted to try and emphasise that while I DO believe it and take it into account, that's not the main point of the theory. There is such interesting things behind the ideas of how that moment went down; the one that is the reason for the whole series but that we don't really know a lot about.

lol Thanks! It did take quite a lot of work, I'm not sure why I thought a moving timeline was a good beginner video but it turned out ok.

Thank you very much!

I completely agree!

Thank you!

Thank you! A new Rusty Lake video is in the works :)

Thank you! It was a lot of work but I'm really happy with the result! Now I just have to decide what to talk about next!

Those are some strong observations! For myself, I consider the grave order to be the strongest both because it's the newest and because it's explicitly together. It doesn't have to be strung together from separate games or evidence points. I definitely thought of Charlie as first until this grave order, so I have to consider how and why she might now be last because I can't ignore the strength of that moment. But for those who don't, I just want to get the gears turning about how we could have used Chika's stories to parallel how Aftons crimes got bigger and scarier over time.

Lmao well if you think of it later let me know!

Thank you! The timeline was a lot of work so it was a wild one to start with but they turned out pretty well!

Thank you! I think that the storytelling in the Chika videos really line up!

Thank you! I just have to decide what do do next lol

Thank you! Honestly the lore is the best part anyway lmao.

You aren't late! You are just in time for my upcoming follow up to this one. I'm currently almost done editing and it should be up soon. ;) I'm glad you like the psychological angle I took for my theory! I hope I can bring more to the concept. And I hope you make videos!

Thank you very much! I hope they will continue to be as I make more :)

It defiantly seems like its either the the Netherlands (where the studio is based) or northern US/Canada. Its also possible it deliberately takes place nowhere specific.

That's an excellent point! Its really cool that for all the mysteries and things I dont remotely understand about the story, the hard and fast rules they establish they follow.

That's very kind of you! Thank you for watching :)

Found us! I'd love to have you in my discord, I stream this series (and others) a lot and we talk theories and stuff in the chat and discord all the time!

We do see that in Underground Blossom, however since we have to assume that game is at least somewhat symbolic, its mor e4important we look at the actual memories in Bob's head. We get to see the moment he gets the card in the real world, and its the day he found our Laura died, so that cant be a literal representation in Underground Blossom. I do wonder what the symbolism is trying to say in that moment, perhaps that meeting Laura started him down that path?

Welcome! I use she/they, though I prefer They online somewhat because my IRL life most people use she so I want to balance that out a bit lol. But either is fine.

Thank you very much! More to come :)

They defiantly have similar vibes but its so hard to say for sure because their voices often are the same people anyway. I do wish we could have a more solid confirmation on that one because we literally see his face so it SHOULD be clear if its him, but Aldous looks slightly different in many of his games so the art style isn't 100% consistent enough to know for sure if "grandpa" is Aldous. There is really solid arguments for and against them being the same but I cant find any way to feel confidant about it one way or another.

Thank you! I agree even when you have played the games a lot, there is so much going on. It genuinely took me sitting down and writing it out like this too feel like I had a solid grasp of the story and i thought it would be helpful to others too!

I certainly will be! Now I just need to figure out what subject would be best to do next there are so many things to talk about!

Thank you! Me too, I absolutely love this series.

I know what you mean! Especially since Paradox emphasised that they are the new pair; one of them will die and the other will be enlightened. It really seems like they are building to some sort of "one or the other" moment.

19) Speaking of TWD endings, I'm sure that the one involving Sarah isn't called "The Alternative" for nothing. For one, the regular ending seems positive enough: Bob brings colors to his life, relearns Laura's lesson that nothing is gone and through that beats his depression. Thinking that Sarah's chapter follows that is causing a dissonance. As if these cool fits that Bob achieved were for nothing and he is still corrupted. That just doesn't feel right, I'd rather bet on different timelines or "what if" scenarios here, even though the book makes Sarah's ending canon in relation to Paradox. Oh and by the way, in that ending we see Sarah at Bob's place. Likely means a relationship. 20) Another praise for noticing James's elixir in the dog's feces. Many think it's just a weird elixir out of nothing. 21) Even though the blue cube depicts Laura's clock I don't think it actually belongs to her unlike the others that are explicitly linked to her picture on a scheme in the book. The blue cube comes out of nowhere there and thus I think that the clock is just a reference. 22) Just in case, the golden cube wasn't just a combinations of 3 other cubes. It required Laura's cubes specifically since they contained William's memories of the elixir, as shown in the book and on the mural. The golden cube itself is heavily implied to be tightly connected to the elixir if not already being one of its forms. 23) A little misconception. It's not fair to say that Rabbit turned into a tree. Rather dissolved into an existing one. 24) It's getting old but I'm really glad that you place Paradox before Birthday and Theatre. There are so many people thinking otherwise for no reason. 25) So yeah, I agree that Dale and maybe even Laura had journeys of their minds while connected to the machine. But I don't think for a second that Laura experienced Seasons then. Paradox is a dream or a mind palace that was deliberately looped. An artificial construct for the most part, only occasionally featuring real elements. I'd bet on Laura just sharing Paradox with Dale rather than going through Seasons for they are nothing like Paradox. They are much more like Birthday and Theatre, real memories of real locations and initially real events. Actual cubes probably floating in the lake. 26) And following that, even though I do connect Seasons with UB too, I wouldn't rush to draw lines between the normal UB ending and the elevator one. I get it, on the surface level it's very easy to connect them because, from our perspective, they take place in succession. But if you dig deeper the things start falling apart It's mostly about Laura's closing monologue : "My mother is here for me. I can live another life without sorrow". But that's not what's happening in the elevator. For one, we hear Laura asking "Where did she [Rose] go?" as if the conflict we've just resolved is suddenly rolled back. And even what's to follow isn't "a new life without sorrow". It's a deadly elixir lottery and Dale is more likely to win, considering all the clues from the games and Owl in particular. And while I absolutely agree that Rose and Harvey were helping with Seasons in one way or another. And I do agree that Harvey collecting cubes could represent his help with Laura's resurrection in 1972. There was just no place for Rose and her blossom back then. Whatever revived Laura in the great cube, it was planned by Owl. The problem is, Albert and Rose are very likely out of his scope. I don't think Owl would let Albert return if he knew it was going to happen, he's dangerous and unpredictable enough on his own. But now he also manifests knowledge and capabilities on a completely new level. He doesn't strive for elixir and false immortality, he breaks the realities and creates exits to The Lake like nobody's business. He enlightens Rose with no sacrifice whatsoever and does so like no one ever did. It's the first time in the series that enlightenment actually looks like nirvana. And if Owl doesn't know about Albert, then he doesn't know about Rose and thus can't plan accordingly. Even Seasons themselves look like Laura's personal endeavor, considering the lack of guidance on Owl's and Crow's behalf that Dale gets so much of (and no, it's not Crow calling Laura in Seasons, it's her corrupted future-self. Just in case). And I think 1981 has to be a real date. I do believe that "future memories" are possible but actual memories are simply much more probable and plausible. Besides, again, the devs promised to return to 1981. So I think Laura was somehow revived inside the cube in 1972 (due to Harvey's cubes or Dale drinking the green vial, not sure). Then she took the elevator and followed Dale to the hotel. There, after a ton of gameplay we'll see Laura lose to Dale in the elixir draw (at least in one of the endings) and die once again (or maybe she was never truly alive in the 1st place). Then, after 9 years of fighting stagnation and Harvey bringing the timepiece at some point, Laura finds her way to The Lake, to her cubes and to Rose in blossom. Then Seasons take place. Again according to the devs (this time at Gamescom 2021), they somehow make elixir and Laura is alive and happy in "one of her timelines", as UB synopsis said. And since Rose from 1926, Rose from 1984 and Laura from some year in between can all meet in The Lake, Harvey witnessing these events out of order is just as easily explained by The Past Within and its "time does not exist in The Lake". 27) I think it's not just to say that Albert and Rose merged the timelines in The Past Within. If anything, it looked like Roses entered their respective cubes like Dale did in Bday/Theatre only this time they did so simultaniously. The thing is, when you enter a cube, your mind is normally funneled into your past body inside it. But here, Roses have created an accelerating funnel loop sending minds into their other bodies as they are already sending minds into their other bodies. They are effectively swapping bodies until they merge and break out their cubes as one. 28) Really glad you didn't miss the ARG's. These are very cool bits of Lore. 29) I think it's safe to assume that Chad died in 2023. At least after late 2022 if we are evidence purists. For reference, there was a tape of a fictional VHS lottery winner Jimbo Fletcher. According to BKM documents, he ordered his memory tape in December 2022 when the lottery took place and left a review in May 2023 when the tapes arrived to their winners. By the same logic, the events of Distribution Center should also take place in May, when the secret level became available. Phew... That was a lot. Hope it's not too overwhelming. Would really appreciate your further thoughts. Looking forward to your other videos.

Grateful for the write-up again, even when I agree with some points and disagree with others! Let me touch on these points. 1) Harvey is, in my opinion, one of the most mysterious aspects of the series. I rewatched that scene of his attack because I never noticed that Mr. Owl was calling on the white beam/power of the lake; you are so right! That minor detail completely changed how I looked at that scene, so thank you so much for pointing it out to me. And the point of the samsara wheels labelling him as an animal is also very important. That said, I hesitate to write him off as just an animal. He's just shown up as an important character too many times for me to completely accept that answer. And while his asura form in UB may not be literal, it still feels meaningful, like his soul is still not fully 'bird'. I call him humanoid in that era since, at face value, that's what we know. There is still room to find out more specific details about it as things progress. Another point of note; yes Mr.Owl/Jakob needs the Elixar again to go back and forth between human and Asure, but we have seen evidence of Mr.Crow being able to take the form of a Crow while he had his Asure form, so there is some precedence for the shift between Asure and animal to be easier. I have long suspected there is more to Harvey, and I have a couple of ideas, but I am not ready to rule out that he may genuinely have more power than even Mr.Owl. 2) Yes, I see how that happens because his outfit is pretty reminiscent of Dale's, I think I pointed it out when I was looking at it too. All together though I don't interpret Dale as having any relation to Mr.Rabbit (but mr. deer maybe?). I'd love to be able to theorize about different character's rebirths because while I don't think there is enough evidence for anything concrete there is some pretty interesting nuggets of details in there. 3) Was there something in the Lab that indicated BKM's involvement? I interpreted the Lab as her own thing but I may well have missed something, there are a lot of details and that is the newest location so I didn't have as much time to explore it repeatedly. 4) The problem is that Laura dies at the lake, and then is investigated/discovered by Dale yes? Unless...she was moved there? I know Kirsten flew to visit the lake but I didn't see anything saying she first visited his city and then the lake or where she was before flying there. And the fact that Dale didn't specifically know where it was didn't really preclude it being close to me: I live in northern Ontario and there are SO many lakes around me, you could name one and I would easily say I've never heard of it and it wind up being just a few hours away. Admittedly I do find the lake and the city location shaky so I am up to reexamining, but I don't think Dale not knowing it is necessarily a shut case, especially as the Lake itself has powers and its common for 'elder beings' and such things to have a sort of people can't easily stumble into it without being 'led' sort of thing. Thats all speculative though, I don't have a solid answer here. 6) I hope so I am eager to learn more about those moments and particularly anything to do with Harvey! 8) In UB we see Harvey visit the lab and give a cube. I don't think it went down exactly as the UB recreates it (she probably didn't just call him on a random payphone lol) but I still feel that unless I learn specifically otherwise, all scenes have at least something of truth in them. Otherwise, they wouldn't exist from a storytelling perspective. For me, it came down to just simply that Harvey definitely knew what Rose was up to. 11) Thats really neat! The main hole in my knowledge base is out-of-game info like def conversations. I guess I need to just sit down and read every old tweet and such I can find last some point lol. 12) Yeah I felt that they were more or less two sides of the same coin. Maybe Harvey just..saw it differently especially since we have confirmation that he saw the soul itself differently? In my head, they are just both canon unless something newer clarifies it more specifically. 13) To me its a question of purpose in game design, especially in the older simpler games. Them reusing assets like the phone makes things easier. But they went out of their way to change the asset of the wallpaper, and so I consider why they would go through that effort. In a setting with such few details, it felt like shorthand for a move or change in scenery. Now, it was just guesswork at that stage, but combined with the fact that we KNOW of two moves in Laura's life (once away from the lake, and once back) I see no reason not to use that detail to help shape the timeline. On its own it's just a smoking gun; but when we have to solve the timing of the move anyway and it lines up pretty well with when we know she leaves for the lake it feels solid to me. 14) I would concede your point on that if it weren't for one thing: we already know for sure that the events in Mill are not all at once like they first seem. Because we see the moment he answers the phone for Dale and we see the moment Dale is taken to the Chapel and Dale himself describes those as months apart. Since we know that both Rorschach moments are at the very least pretty close in time, I absolutely see it as indicative of it being simultanious, again unless something else comes along to say otherwise. 15) Yeah I suspected it was Mr. Deer, tho it didn't seem worth bringing up at the time. I didin't see that poster detail so that is excellent confirmation for me, thank you. 16) I'll look into those missing dates. I hesitate to use "cut-content" as it were, because I do think it might be a retcon since the re-release would have been when they were further in their plans about the story. Still its good information to have, at least until something newer comes along to debunk it outrite. Definatly my main confusion was simply where his shot took place, since there were a couple different ways to see it. As far as finding her body being the thing, I do like that explanation. Dale was at the very least still at the station and on the case when he was brought in, but now that you mention it Bob's dream/vision in the disco does seem to imply it was the other officer who actually brought him in. Seems Dale felt he was in the clear but the other guy didn't buy it. 17) I will absolutely look into that, though I will take whats in it with a grain of salt. When it comes to these complex stories over many years/games I tend to rule that most new is most true: if they've gone out of their way to change or remove something it might be for a reason. 18) yeah it seemed to be Sarah calling to him in that moment for sure.

19) You know what...You are 100% right on this one. I just straight up forgot that the memory erasing ending was not inherently connected to the mass break-out ending. For some reason the way I had them written down made it seem like they were all one thing and since we know those cubes did make it out into the world in "our" timeline I just thought it had to be cannon too. I'm kind of glad actually; it really did seem like the true ending should have been with Laura drawing Paradise instead. I think I probably know the least about TWD, I've certainly replayed it the least except UB since that one is brand new. 20) lol my favourite part of doing that piece was when I decided to add the Dogs age like I do all the important characters. Its just so funny to me; what an old doggy. Thinking about it; that seems to be further proof that the elixir might be stronger in animals somehow; its still going strong enough in Dog that they other two can extract enough to regain power but they are all out of juice at that point. This might be further proof that Harvey really did start out as just a bird. Interesting, I'll have to think on that more. 21) That is a fair point actually, it probably just represented time itself within the lake, 22) I did clock that it was important that it was Laura's memories in the book. Those memories don't seem to connect to the Elixir tho so I wonder why they were the ones chosen. Plus we know that's not the only way to make a Gold Cube. TPW sort of threw a wrench in that. Bares more thinking. 23) another fair point. I guess what he actually did was cause an existing tree to blossom...or I guess to...leaf? (not as catchy sounding). Hmm. seems to me that meant that he met with the tree of his past life perhaps? (since it's so reminiscent of Rose meeting with herself.) Something along those lines? I think that's a train of thought worth following, I'll jot that down. 24) That one surprises me, it straight up shows him getting into the Paradise elevator at the end of Paradox, that one felt pretty cut and dry. 25) yeah this is more a matter of "my cannon until I have something better" I'm not super attached to it. For me where I land is that her last 'season' firmly takes place after her death and it has all those wires and machinery which felt to me like it could easily have been because that memory was formed while in the machine. I also felt that because Laura was a means to an end for Mr. Owl but Dale was the one he wanted to train up, that would be why he created Paradox for Dale while he might not have bothered for Laura. 26) yeah I connect them because seasons imply her coming back to life/changing her death, and then we see that happen in the lake. Certainly, there are some small holes in that one, was another matter of doing the best I could to get the information we currently have out there as a starting point. Agree with all that. Here's where I differ from your opinion; I think that Laura coming back was not part of Mr. Owl's plan. To me, it almost felt like Mr. Owl backing Dale and Mr.Crow backing Laura as the choice for successor. We see Mr. Owl interact with Dale time and time again, but other than using the power of her memories and the memories of her he doesn't seem to show much interest in Laura. As you said, Albert and Rose's actions seemed out of his scope. Add to that the fact that we get a date for Laura's final 'memory', the one of her life turning back, and that date is so much after, it feels deliberately separated from Dales's exit. It's almost like Dale and Mr. Owl move on and now Mr.Crow has the opportunity to try and save his kin? That may even be why we see Dale's elevator leave the white cube in UB. It's not that it happened RIGHT before she comes back (since we have proof otherwise, and UB is more symbolic than literal) but simply to re-emphasize that this is after they leave. 27) yeah I had to find a way to simplify what happened there because all TPW stuff is a tangle of itself and will need its own discussion videos for sure. 28) Love the ARGs :) 29) Those are excellent pieces of evidence and I wish I had pieced them together for the video lmao. Thank you for the write-up once again! I have the feeling that we will be debating things a lot ;)

@@zefiewings 1. I never said he was just an animal, I said he was acting like one and I admitted him being magical and intellegent. After all, just a parrot wouldn't be able to defeat a corrupted soul. I even agree that he may even possess some powers beyond Owl but they never looked to be in that domain. I woud also really appreciate a solid precedent before attributing such an ability to Harvey but the evidence of Mr. Crow turning into a bird that I know is based either on unreliable narrators, on the period of his prime or just honest mistakes. What evidence do you mean, maybe I'm missing something? 3. There's no blunt sign of The Lab being BKM but there are several pieces of moderate solidity that convinced me when I combined them. - They are both dealing with memories; - They share the same general interior design; - The have tech of the same style; - They have almost identical blast doors; But most importantly, - Albert is hanging out at BKM from time to time, - BKM somehow has Rose's memories about The Lab on VHS, - The room from the lifestreams/the distribution center with its black cube looks like both The Lab and The Future. And it was even featured in TPW trailer. Even if BKM wasn't a thing in the 60s The Lab could eventually become one of its sites. 4. 1st of all, Laura didn't die at The Lake. Her suicide memory shown in The Cave featured the wallpaper from Seasons' kitchen consistent across all 4 levels. I tend to trust it more that any other depiction. It's the most down to earth, devoid from unreliable narrators as humanly possible. For 2, in Kirsten's instagram she revisited the place where she was waiting for her father after work as a child. That was before her flight. For 3, I can totally imagine civillians not knowing each and every lake in the proximity (btw there are whopping 7 Rusty Lakes in Canada), but that's Dale we're talking about. A staff police detective with access to the resources of the state. They simply have to know that stuff if it's in their country. I don't even think that magic would keep them away since we have several travellers visiting and even some newspaper articles. Besides, there is independent evidence for Dale, Laura and Bob living in the US and The Lake being located in Europe. Depending on what we take seriously, we can be as precise as New York and Great Brittain respectively. 8. We do see Harvey visiting The Lab but he didn't give any cubes to Rose. It was the other way around. She extracted The Past and gave it to him for a test drive. I do agree that there has to be some degree of truth but the general tone of Underground Blossom leaves me very skeptical. Also keep in mind that I'm speaking from an as objective point of view as possible no matter what I personally believe. I'm almost sure, first and foremost, the devs wanted to make a link between TPW and UB. To show what were Rose and Albert up to and the very extraction of The Past. It's technically possible that Harvey was simply the only avatar available for us in that game. But that aside, I actually believe that Harvey somehow did find The Lab and he at least witnessed the events in question (I'm still leaning towards him being a full time bird which would deem many actions we players perform debatable). 12. There are definitely ways to see all 3 endings of The Lake/Harvey's Box as canon. In any combination. 13. The biggest reason for me not to interpret that specific wallpaper change in that specific way is that the rest is pretty much the same. Basically there's more things that stayed unchanged, many more. Including the general room layout and even the wallpaper on the opposite wall. It's all so similar that it's easier to just slap an equal sign on than assume a mass reuse. We do that even to things with less visual similarities (like the Eilanders being the guests, 2 different Mr. Rabbits being the same person, and TWD manager being Owl despite a heavy redesign). Even the synopsis in the mobile stores seemingly implies that it's the same room slowly being twisted. The wallpaper isn't the only change, that's true, but I'm almost sure that, when there's no gameplay reasons, it's all to depict the passage of time. It's been 7 years between the 1st 2 seasons after all. 14. There's rarely strong evidence against something. For instance, you can't easily disprove a teapot allegedly orbiting the Earth. That's why people usually put the burden of proof on the claiming party. However I think I do have some evidence against, as well as alternative interpretations. As they say, absence of evidence is sometimes an evidence of absence and we've never seen The Lake being a cause for such changes especially when reacting to cubes. Meanwhile we see time and time again corrupted souls actually doing something similar: - Excessive blood in fall in Seasons; - Black void/overlay in The Lake; - Slightly black overlay in HB; - Bloody mirror in Roots; - Twisted dark room in Paradox; - Eternal night, unsettling food, mind-bending activities in TWD; - Darkness, blood and blue fire in TPW; - Darkness in Underground Blossom. The effects may vary but they are all caused by corrupted souls and so, I think, are the patterns that accompany the darkness and gore in Case 23/The Mill. Especially considering that such patterns appear in The Mill only when you come close to a dark soul and in Case 23 when Deer becomes more agitated (while The Lake, on the contrary, helps Dale and gives him another chance each time he dies). Speaking of the supposed time skip in The Mill, it's not that certain too. For instance, Laura's corpse would be kept there for months in that case. With no clear explanation how it didn't rot nor reasons to wait before cube extraction. Laura's corpse was abducted before Dale but her memories were taken after. Besides, Dale discovered a peculiar testimony that time stopped at The Lake when an old man in a hat was walking by the mill. That's crazy but even the numbers appearing over the waters don't look like gameplay that much anymore, considering that they do appear in The Mill too. 16. I have a strong suspition that the dates are not cut content but rather a little bit lazy port. Seasons make me think so. They lost 3 last date screeens too (just like Case 23) but the dates are still confirmed in the cube menu. It's not the only thing missing and that's why I recommended you to play the OG version of Case 23. Not for the lore but for the experience. 20. No, I don't think the dog proves animals and Harvey more capable. The elixir does leave its body and the immortality loss is a matter of time. I think the major reason why the lake stewards can still exploit the dog is that it drank the elixir 10 years after Aldous did and it didn't wear off yet. Could be overthinking but I also heard that dogs generally eat and sh*t less than humans. No idea if the devs considered that. 24. Some would say there were elevators in other games too. So another reason why Paradox came before them is the direction the elevator comes from. It's from above as if Paradox is the lowest froor. What's more, judging by early playthoughs on YT, it used to be the other way around and the devs actually found time to fix it as if it's something important. 25. What's fun, Laura's plan in Seasons seems to be worked through. Considering the blueprint that depicts the timeline if you look into it. When it comes to the machine, I recently started thinking that Rose could have helped with it. I can't wait for the devs to show us what truly happened in 1981. 26. Don't take me wrong, I do connect Seasons and Laura's Blossom. I just don't connect Seasons and the great cube/the elevator. I'm just inclined to believe that 1981 was initially a real event taking place long after Owl and Dale succeeded. Basically Laura created her own "timeline" with blackjack and... *Cough* And thus Harvey witnessing The Lake endings out of order. So far it seemed to me that Owl needed them both to eventually come to the hotel alive so they could both take part in the elixir ritual. Chances are, Dale took off alone 1st because he had a personal journey to go on. (I'd really hope to see the same for Laura but... yeah...) And it's actually believable that Crow would support Laura's candidacy. The question is, would he be able to do much? Would he really go against Owl? Would he bring in living Laura without his approval? Would he be able to keep Albert and Rose in secret? Would he himself know about them? Would he, on his part, let Albert return? So many uncertainty against Laura finding her own black train to The Lake with no conductor inside as well as inconsistencies between UB endings. With all that said, I thank you again for this discussion. I learnt much and now I have a few more things to look after as the story develops.

Thank you!

Thank you very much! Don't worry, I have plenty of video ideas in the works for this and other series.

That's awesome!

Thank you! I've noticed a lot of videos trying to start figuring out the "why" but none of them looked into how I try and see serial killer study; criminal psychology. So I thought, hey why not do it myself lol.

Thank you! My mom bought me that beautiful art piece, but its so shiny I have to put a spacer back there while recording to put it on an angle, otherwise my ring light is insanely bright in it. The Jackalope/winged Jackalope has always been my favorite fantasy creature, so my sister made me that for streaming since my logo is a Jackalope. And I wanted to make sure I got a pride flag in there from day one, so that people know whats up around here as far as what kind of comments will/will not be acceptable. Establish that safe space early!

I know! I wonder when they will get to that part of the story?

Early enough! :D

lol Thank you! Love that movie~! And Rusty Lake is my favorite too!

Thank you! I plan on making that series for sure, I just wonder what video people would want next on the line.

Some Rusty Lake theory videos would be great