Hey guys, so I finally got the XR18 (it's been out of stock because of supply chain issues). And I was incorrect in this video. You CANNOT do this with the Behringer XR18 series. I emailed Behringer and they confirmed that this trick doesn't work with the XR18. Sorry about that, that was my mistake!
It doesn't work because every bus is arleady assigned to an aux out, so there in no need for it, you can however, listen to two of those buses with the phones out the same you did here.
Can you not use the effects sends and send them to the Headphone out? say effect 1 panned L and effect 2 panned R then you'd still have 2 effects sends 3+4 for a reverb and delay?
I've got the XR16 which until now has been perfect for the band but we've just decided to expand to a 5 piece and I was struggling to come up with a solution for a 5th channel for in ear monitoring. We'd kind of come to the conclusion we'd have to send a monitor feed to a splitter and both guitar players would have the same mix, not ideal but better than nothing. Now I know I can use the headphone out (which we never use) it's a perfect solution. Many thanks for this and the other tips on your channel. 👍🏻
Having the X air 16, this is a great trick in getting the extra sub outs! Thank Scott! Just subscribed as it certainly is evident that you've done your homework. Much appreciated!
OMG!! Thank you for this Scott! I actually just needed to know why I was getting sound out of the FOH that I only wanted in my IEM! Going to "Main" and turning that switch off was all it took!! Thank you!!!
Thanks! This is awesome! I was looking for this for a slightly different reason, looking for more channel sends to send to a usb audio interface for recording individual tracks while still keeping the live sound complete. With this I should be able to record 4 separate tracks without messing up the live mix! Nice!
Awesome. We use the XR16 (only 4 IEM outs) We do use the headphone out as an extra IEMbut I had no idea what the Bus 5/6 could be split until this video. Very helpful if we ever need a 6th IEM Question; Guess there is no safe way to send the feed to a powered wedge monitor from the headphone out. Just headphone amps like the P1 and P2?
If the phones can be set as two extra IEMs, can I feed MAIN L&R XLRs to one more IEM and have total of five IEMs and no speaker monitors? My 5 piece band needs just that for rehearsals...
Dear Scott. First I want say that your videos are great. Thanx for that. I have a question about this video. I use mixing station app. Just a great app to use. In your video you use the Behringer app. Is it also possible to do the trick to use the headphone out on a XR12 or XR16 as 2 aux out by using the mixing station app. When yes, how do I do this? Greetz from the Netherlands, André
Hey Scott, thanks for your videos man. As a helix user and a midi novice your videos have really helped me out a lot. Because of this video I actually just picked up one of these mixers. The biggest thing I see people having problems with is the internal router. Is there an external one you would recommend? Also I’m gonna be picking up the phenyx 10 in ear system so I will make sure to use your affiliate link. Thanks again
Basically any dual band router works well! Mine is an older one and I don’t even remember the model of it haha. The more people who connect to it, the better of quality you need though. I have a tiny portable one when I play solo, and the bigger one that my dad gave me when we have a band
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for your reply. Hey do you happen to play break music on a flash drive using the usb drive on this mixer? If not , do you have any idea how to do that, it just seems impossible, even after watching any videos about it.
I honestly haven’t used the usb drive before in that way so I’m not sure. I have a dedicated input for playing music during breaks. That, or I have a Bluetooth connection to my EV Evolve 50s and I use that to play music during breaks 👍
Thank you so much for this vid. This is gonna be super helpful for me. ? Is it a bad idea if I run IEMs (singer and acoustic guitar player) while my other 2 band members run std monitors and amps?
Glad to help 👍 No that won’t be a problem. I personally prefer direct amp modelers and in ear monitors, but not every musician is that way. But you can combine different options for sure 👍
Scott I did the setup as described here and it works except that I get no effects at all from the aux that is routed to the headphone out. Is there a way to get the effects to the headphone out?
Totally worked on my XR12. Thanks! However, I was hoping I could get a stereo monitor mix from the headphone out on bus 3. But as soon as I changed it to bus 3, it became mono. Any way to fix that?
Hate to be a bother, but could I conceivably link buses 1 & 2, 3 & 4, and 5 & 6--then, using three TRS-to-1/4" splitter cables, get three stereo in-ear mixes from the two auxes and the headphone out?
Hi Scott. I've had my setup going for a few weeks now as per your awesome video, but I just want to clarify something. It looks to me like the maximum number of independent output channels the XR12 supports is 4, correct? When you set the monitor to 3/4, it also slaves the control of the main L and main R to the IEM person you set onto L and R respectively. Is there anyway you can still control the main L and R independent from the 4 iem channels that are setup? thanks heaps
You wouldn't have to know if there is a way to get an extra set out of the XR18 just like you did here? Since there is only 6 is there a way to get 7 or 8 mixes using the hp output or a 4th stereo output
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks so much for the reply. So conceivably could use. Mix L+R as stereo IEM mix 1. Aux 1+2 as stereo IEM mix 2. And headphone trick as stereo IEM mix 3?. Would only use for IEMs, not FOH mix required.
hi man . thanks a lot again. but the thing is, i have MR 18 and when i select bus 3 for this it goes to xlr bus 3. i still want to do this in headphone output because i don't have xlr jack. so how to do it? and one more thing. i remember one of your video where you explained how to connect mixer via wife but still stay connected to wifi, i cand of cant find that video. a link would help alot. thank again man.
@@yaqubaxamee9146 hey man, so you should be able to set the headphone output to be bus 3. It will be bus 3 and headphone out. I was incorrect in this video that you get EXTRA outputs with the 18 series. But you can still assign the headphone out to bus 3 I believe. And I think this is the video you were talking about: ADAPTER For Your DIGITAL MIXERS - Lightning/USB C to Ethernet th-cam.com/video/CtI4UaroUAU/w-d-xo.html
Hiya Scott! That’s a great set of moves, thanks. you may well be the guy to get my XR12 happening again? My internal wifi was intermittent but now it’s given up. I bought a cheap Archer router to replace it & am unable to get connected. The iPad Pro sees the router but router doesn’t pass signal on to the XR12 via the connected Ethernet cable on any of the 3 XR12 wifi in options. Any clues for me? Cheers pierre from Oz . .not the planet, the country.
You have it switched to Ethernet mode right? If it doesn’t work, it might be a router issue, but it could also be the Ethernet port having problems as well
@@ScottUhlMusic WoW Scott! Quick response thanks & yup, Ethernet has been the main choice but I did try the others as well pretty sure it's the Router but what to look for? It's an Archer AC750 aka C24
I can figure it out (by offline, Im not trying it yet), you can route aux 1-6 in menu INPUT-OUTPUT (I/O), then select route options for aux out.. In XR18, we didnt have the bus 7-8 , so you can try feed your aux by FX send/return options and change the output in monitor to bus 5/6... example: for floor monitor, I using aux 1 and 2 (for my singers), what I do here? I feed my aux 1 with FX sends 1 and feed my aux 2 with FX sends 2, and I not open the FX return fader to main LR... Aux 3-6 feeds by bus 3-6, and phones/monitor out feeds by bus 1/2...
@@jonathanarleys Wow Jonathan you are a genius!!! It took me a little while to get what you were trying to say, but it's a genius method bro!!!! The only disadvantage is that you lose two FX sends but each one of us will see if it's worth it.
This does not work with the xr18. That was my mistake. I even emailed Behringer and they confirmed that this trick doesn't work with it :( Sorry about that!
That’s so strange, I’ve done this on multiple devices. There has to be a setting that is switched on or off that doesn’t need to be. A hard reset for the entire mixer is an option if you really need to. You can save the scenes before doing that if you want to go that route
Great video thanks. It's a really useful feature which I use all the time. A couple of watchouts. With the X-Air Edit app, setup, monitor, having selected Bus 3/4 as the source, check that the "MONO" button is DISABLED, otherwise you will get the same signal through both sides no matter what. Secondly, there are several kinds of splitter cable. The only one that works has a stereo output jack wired to 2 x mono input jacks with the tip from the stereo jack wired to the tip of one mono jack (Bus 3), and the ring (the middle bit of the stereo jack) wired to the tip of the other mono jack (Bus 4). If you have one, use a multimeter to get absolute confidence you got the correct type of lead, but obviously testing will confirm. To match the output levels of Bus 2 and 3 the headphone volume level needs to be around 2/3 of full volume.The leads are not balanced but when I need long cable runs I sometimes convert to balanced by using an ART dPDB passive DI box fed by a very short splitter cable. In this case the headphone volume level needs to be somewhat higher at 80-90% of full volume, or you could use an equivalent powered DI box and a lower output volume.
Hey great tutorial man. Thanks. One thing. Is it like each band member can connect to the mixer by their phone app and mix their IEM ? Or there is a separate app for band members ?
I assume the headphone out is playing the same as main out to begin with. When changing the headphone out as you do in this videos, - is it possible to link bus 3+4 and thereby get ONE seperate stereo mix, instead of two mono mixes?
Thanks Scott. Very well presented. We have an X Air 12. Could you please do a video to show how to connect and ring out a floor monitor? We are a four piece band but we have a lot of problems with feedback from the monitor and find it difficult to overcome. We are musicians but not sound guys. Something nice and simple, one step at a time would be good. Thanks
I stopped using wedges and switched to in ear monitors because I kept getting a ton of feedback at certain venues we would play. I’m actually not good at mixing wedges at all, and I only use this gear with IEMs now 👍 definitely recommend it if you can! These are the cheap ones that I recommend: th-cam.com/video/dJL_zI2drRQ/w-d-xo.html
Im probably doing something wrong but ive followed the steps a few times and i cant get 2 busses from the headphone out. Ive set the monitor settings correctly i think. Seem to only get buss 5 on 5 and 6. Im using an XR16 with the Xair app for windows on my laptop. Any help much appreciated.
If you follow these steps, it should work, unless something I’m not sure about got switched in a global setting or a new firmware update or something. I’ve done this multiple times on my old 12 and my singer’s 16.
Oh man, that's awesome, I assume that those buses where just something generic to fill some spaces. Thank you very much but now I can't stop thinking in buses 5/6 🤣
hey, it seams you can still do it in xr18 with some workarounds. you need to sacrifice 2 of the FX buses and use 2 of the aux sends as monitor. so monitor will output to the selected aux outputs and the FX to the phones output. am i right?
Oh interesting… I haven’t tried that but I guess that would work if you are able to route the fx to the headphone out. I’m not sure at all about that, but in theory it’s possible.
You should be able to set the headphone out as one of the aux channels. It might not be an “extra” one like I go over here, but you can assign the bus/aux to be the headphone out
Scott, I have a couple of questions. I recently purchased a Behringer X Air 16. I have IEM's but I've been reluctant to really throw myself into using them. Being that I'm starting to play larger venues in the area that me and my family moved to this year I think that I should probably get used to using them. When you start your sound check I assume that you do both a FOH mix check and an IEM mix check? Also do I need to route differently if I plan on using external effects?
@@gerimayawhyte154 yeah if I’m doing FOH sound, I check FOH sound first and then dial in my mix. But most of the time the settings are very similar so it’s usually the same. I never use external fx with my mixer personally, I like the built in ones
@@ScottUhlMusic Oh okay thanks. As far as external effects I meant using an effects pedal chain on my guitar prior to going to the mixer. Someone told me that sending my guitar signal through my effects pedal chain first and then into the mixer wasn't ideal as far as tone was concerned. Thoughts on this?
Hey Scott, thanks for all your videos on IEM setups. In the past two weeks i learnt a lot!! I already have 2 wireless transmitters, 3 bodypacks and one cabled bodypack for my drummer. I'm looking for a mixer now, could i use the main outputs of these xr12 to connect one Anleon s3 in stereo?(to have two separate mono mixes)
Thanks! Yes, you could use the main outputs to connect to an IEM system. Obviously you wouldn’t have a way to run to FOH in that case, but if you just need it for an IEM splitter mixer, that would work 👍
Hey Scott! Thanks for your video, one question, does this AUX outputs come in a Mono or Stereo mix? Is it possible to have an in ear monitor mix in stereo? Thanks! 🙌🏻
You only show using the xlr channels in the IEM. I assume the other 1/4 channels inputs will still go through the iem channel made by the headphone output.
Hey, I have a question. Would you know how to give each instrument members(Bass and keys) their own mix without affecting each other/others in-ears? We're all actually sharing a transmitter with wireless receivers, and just curious on how to give each member full control of their own in-ears
okay but you can divide it to have 2 more iem individualy control in a bus configuration ? ( i don't know if a explain it clearly) i was looking to buy a xr 18 because we need 6 individual iem but there 2-3 mounth due to supply stil.l so i found a xr16 avalible right now and i want to be sur that i understand how to configure de xr16 since there is no video explaining how to use all the out put as iem send" @@ScottUhlMusic
Scott, I've recently been viewing your videos on wireless IEM. Thank you for them. I think I've landed on one but I hope to feed the left and right ins split out from the headphone outs on the Zoom L12 mixer. Would splitting the left and right signal out from a headphone out work or would the wireless transmitter then reamplify the already headphone amplified signal and create a problem? Don't know how to find the answer to this other than just buying one and trying it (which I don't have the luxury of doing). Thanks for your help!!
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi, Scott. The Zoom L-12 has five separate headphone outs. It looks like the inputs to the wireless IEM are left and right (for stereo). I just want to know if I can split the single headphone outs to inputs of the transmitter. I mean, I know I can physically do that but the headphone outs are powered for headphone use. Isn't the IEM as well, and wouldn't that create a problem with one headphone amp in front of another (in the transmitter)? I'm probably not explaining this well. Sorry.
Great video, thanks Scott. A quick question - in my main band we use QU16 desk and all have the mix software on our tablets for controlling our IEM mixes. I am looking at a solution for a 2-3 piece act I am in, and am wondering if all three band members can run the XR12 software at once and be connected to the mixer to allow them to tweak their IEM/BUS monitor mix themselves? Thanks.
Yup. Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/w-d-xo.html I go over it with the x32 but the idea is the same with basically any digital mixer 👍
Hi Scott. love your videos, they are life saving for a small band setup like us. Our band is adding a lead guitarist and taking us to a four piece, but my drummer uses headphones on the headphone out. Can I do this same process, but on one of the aux send outputs instead? the manual does state the aux output is TRS? That way the drummer can stay using the headphone out and I can share one of the aux outs as your video states. I have just purchased one of these XR12, but I haven't received it yet. cheers
Hmm I’m not sure either. I made sure to do all the steps correctly. Possibly there is something that is switched on the app that I’m not familiar with. That’s the only thing I can think of
So I don't have my iPad in front of me to test, but I use an XR18 and I'm wondering how it would work for that because it only shows a maximum of 6 busses on the app. How would you get to what would would then be 7 and 8? I might just be missing something or rendering incorrectly.
@@ScottUhlMusic I just pulled it up in demo mode (XR18 is not with me) but it still only shows being able to route to busses as high as 6. I've attached a link to a video. Am I missing anything? th-cam.com/video/Ba7LgEyJKWY/w-d-xo.html
We tried the headphone out tip to run a stereo feed for my in ears but it didn’t give me a true stereo feed. Also sent volume on keys Sky high? Maybe it was the cable type? Used trs to xlr from headphone out on the xr to my stereo headphone monitor amp. Any suggestions?
Good Video and thank you for sharing this.. Can I do the same to XR18? There is nothing Bus left if I was using all 6 buses for monitor, It just got 6 aux, 2 main out, and stereo monitor or I can get more 2 buses so I can using 8 mono buses? I just imagining of using monitor out as streaming audio but I just realized that monitor out are unbalanced stereo out, so I need to feed this monitor out same like main mix and then send it using DI boxes to reaching streaming PC (30 meters Balanced cable)...
I keep getting this comment, and I need to figure it out. I swear there was a way. I have the 12… my singer has the 16… and the 18 is sold out EVERYWHERE. But I going to pick one up from a friend who is selling it. I will do more research on it! Sorry anyone who was lead astray with my video. I know it does work on the 12 and 16 for sure
@@ScottUhlMusic I just look the software on my phone.. there is no extra buses (7-8) for monitor out... So it clear to me, I need to routed aux 1-6 by another way and I can using this video method for monitor out.. Example: in the Routing - Output tab, I can route aux 1-4 by their buses, aux 5-6 feed by FX 1-4 out (send to streaming PC), and monitor out feeds by 5/6 buses, using a short cables and feed my power amp for floor monitor... Hahaha.. Damn, this is how we was done on analog mixer.. 🤣 Edit: there is available "aux" labeled but I dont know it was set for another aux or what, maybe you can do experiment with it? I see it avalable on XR12 mixing software (offline - android)..
Thanks for the research. It says this is an 18 in and 12 out mixer. I just emailed behringer actually. Hopefully I find out soon (and I’ll update the thumbnail and description).
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks back to you man, you helping me in the fisrt place... God Bless... I just a early adoper on digital mixer, so what was I share is how I hack my church old analog mixer (its the Behringer Xenyx X2442USB)....
@@jonathanarleys Okay I heard back from Behringer... this trick does NOT work with the XR18. I'm sorry I got that wrong in this video. I updated the thumbnail, description, and pinned a comment as well correcting this.
Great video, that helped a lot! Is there a way to assign a bus to the main out L or R in order to get 2 additional mono mixes? I am not using the mains, as it is used as a dedicated IEM unit. It would be nice to use the XLR outputs instead of the TRS. TIA.
I know you can get another stereo send for sure that way… but I’m not sure how you would get two separate mono sends from the main outputs. My guess is no, but you could plug it into one stereo one 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the fast reply. I've solved it by creating stereo tracks which I then panned hard left and hard right. But I think this is not the best solution, as every input will have to be a stereo input.
@@sanchopansen4431 Hey, have you managed to find a way to turn those mains into 2 mono mixes? Looking to get this mixer but would really like to use those 2 xlr outs instead of the TRS headphone output for 2 additional mixes.
@@sanchopansen4431 Thanks for answering! Would it work if I sent those panned mixes to a behringer p2 and a senn g4 iem? Would I get a standard mono mix?
I have the XR18, unfortunately i only have 6 busses in the app... i could make it 7 or 8 this way but i do not seem to find, how to add more busses (like for subgrouping etc...) inside the app?
This should work under the routing option of the app. Let me know if you are able to get this to work. I had the 18 but I sold it for the x32. So I have the 12, my singer had the 16, and I have the 32 now so I’m unable to test it. I’ll update the info on the thumbnail and titles at least if you are not able to. I swear it was possible, but it might have to be adjusted under the routing section for the 18
I just had a look in the routing options and there is no option to make extra busses. And under Audio/midi - Monitor - there are only the 6 busses, AUX, USB17/18 and LR. So I don’t think it’s possible :(
@@SuperAndersj So weird... because it is supposed to be a 12 output option. I'm planning on selling my x12 and getting the x18, so hopefully soon. Everywhere is sold out of it right now. I'll keep you posted if I find anything out. Thanks for letting me know!
Hey guys, so I finally got the XR18 (it's been out of stock because of supply chain issues). And I was incorrect in this video. You CANNOT do this with the Behringer XR18 series. I emailed Behringer and they confirmed that this trick doesn't work with the XR18. Sorry about that, that was my mistake!
It doesn't work because every bus is arleady assigned to an aux out, so there in no need for it, you can however, listen to two of those buses with the phones out the same you did here.
Can you not use the effects sends and send them to the Headphone out? say effect 1 panned L and effect 2 panned R then you'd still have 2 effects sends 3+4 for a reverb and delay?
@@dandenning6499 That would be an interesting hack for sure if that worked
@@ScottUhlMusic might have to give it a go and see, will report back 😂
@@dandenning6499 Please report back 😛
I've got the XR16 which until now has been perfect for the band but we've just decided to expand to a 5 piece and I was struggling to come up with a solution for a 5th channel for in ear monitoring. We'd kind of come to the conclusion we'd have to send a monitor feed to a splitter and both guitar players would have the same mix, not ideal but better than nothing. Now I know I can use the headphone out (which we never use) it's a perfect solution. Many thanks for this and the other tips on your channel. 👍🏻
Awesome! Glad to help out! 🤘🤘🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic I'm in the exact same boat. Dude this is really incredible information! Thanks!!!!
This is fantastic and unleashes the full potential of the smaller units. Thank you so much!
Having the X air 16, this is a great trick in getting the extra sub outs! Thank Scott! Just subscribed as it certainly is evident that you've done your homework. Much appreciated!
Thank you Neil!
YOU ARE A GENIUS! 🤯 I had no idea you could change what goes out the headphone out jack, I assumed it was hardcoded. Absolutely amazing, you rock!
Glad to help!
OMG!! Thank you for this Scott! I actually just needed to know why I was getting sound out of the FOH that I only wanted in my IEM! Going to "Main" and turning that switch off was all it took!! Thank you!!!
Glad to help! That drove me nuts too!
Thanks! This is awesome! I was looking for this for a slightly different reason, looking for more channel sends to send to a usb audio interface for recording individual tracks while still keeping the live sound complete. With this I should be able to record 4 separate tracks without messing up the live mix! Nice!
Awesome. We use the XR16 (only 4 IEM outs)
We do use the headphone out as an extra IEMbut I had no idea what the Bus 5/6 could be split until this video. Very helpful if we ever need a 6th IEM
Question;
Guess there is no safe way to send the feed to a powered wedge monitor from the headphone out. Just headphone amps like the P1 and P2?
That I honestly do not know…. My guess is that you can do it, but I’m not positive. It’s worth a shot though!
If the phones can be set as two extra IEMs, can I feed MAIN L&R XLRs to one more IEM and have total of five IEMs and no speaker monitors? My 5 piece band needs just that for rehearsals...
If I understand correctly, I believe so 👍
But didnt explain how to rout the bus 3 to the headphones. Hace a xr16 snd i need to use the headphones please can you explain me ? How to?
Dear Scott. First I want say that your videos are great. Thanx for that. I have a question about this video. I use mixing station app. Just a great app to use. In your video you use the Behringer app. Is it also possible to do the trick to use the headphone out on a XR12 or XR16 as 2 aux out by using the mixing station app. When yes, how do I do this?
Greetz from the Netherlands, André
Thanks! And yes you can set this up in mixing station as well following the same steps. It will just look a little different in mixing station
Hey Scott, thanks for your videos man. As a helix user and a midi novice your videos have really helped me out a lot. Because of this video I actually just picked up one of these mixers. The biggest thing I see people having problems with is the internal router. Is there an external one you would recommend? Also I’m gonna be picking up the phenyx 10 in ear system so I will make sure to use your affiliate link. Thanks again
Basically any dual band router works well! Mine is an older one and I don’t even remember the model of it haha. The more people who connect to it, the better of quality you need though. I have a tiny portable one when I play solo, and the bigger one that my dad gave me when we have a band
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for your reply. Hey do you happen to play break music on a flash drive using the usb drive on this mixer? If not , do you have any idea how to do that, it just seems impossible, even after watching any videos about it.
I honestly haven’t used the usb drive before in that way so I’m not sure. I have a dedicated input for playing music during breaks. That, or I have a Bluetooth connection to my EV Evolve 50s and I use that to play music during breaks 👍
Thank you so much!!!! this is extremely helpful
excellent video short and to the points.
Thank you so much for this vid. This is gonna be super helpful for me. ? Is it a bad idea if I run IEMs (singer and acoustic guitar player) while my other 2 band members run std monitors and amps?
Glad to help 👍 No that won’t be a problem. I personally prefer direct amp modelers and in ear monitors, but not every musician is that way. But you can combine different options for sure 👍
Do you have a video on how to do this or just an IEM mix in general on the the mix station app?
@@gerimayawhyte154 I have a mixing station overview video here: th-cam.com/video/bGcOnbUFjA0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=A3KEIbt7p58lP4MT
Great video, really helpful!
I looking for this so much ty for you video!!
Glad I could help!
wait a min. couldnt you split the other xlr aux sends the same way?!
No, you cannot
Scott I did the setup as described here and it works except that I get no effects at all from the aux that is routed to the headphone out. Is there a way to get the effects to the headphone out?
Yeah you should be able to route fx to the aux. it’s kind of a pain, and I always seem to forget how to do it tbh lol
Hi, can the main left/right XLR outputs be assigned as buses for monitor mixes? hoping to use the xr12 purely as a monitor mixer
Yeah you can do that send someone a monitor mix and they just mix the main outputs as their monitor send
Do you know if there's a similar workaround for the Soundcraft UI series mixers?
I’m not sure, I haven’t really used one
Totally worked on my XR12. Thanks! However, I was hoping I could get a stereo monitor mix from the headphone out on bus 3. But as soon as I changed it to bus 3, it became mono. Any way to fix that?
To do stereo you need to link 3 and 4 together and send two channels to 2 inputs on your IEM receiver 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks!
Hate to be a bother, but could I conceivably link buses 1 & 2, 3 & 4, and 5 & 6--then, using three TRS-to-1/4" splitter cables, get three stereo in-ear mixes from the two auxes and the headphone out?
Hi Scott. I've had my setup going for a few weeks now as per your awesome video, but I just want to clarify something. It looks to me like the maximum number of independent output channels the XR12 supports is 4, correct?
When you set the monitor to 3/4, it also slaves the control of the main L and main R to the IEM person you set onto L and R respectively.
Is there anyway you can still control the main L and R independent from the 4 iem channels that are setup?
thanks heaps
Yeah if you follow these steps you should be able to get 4 independent bus sends as well as LR as it’s own control 👍
Think this would work on the Midas MR12 as well?
I believe so, yes
You wouldn't have to know if there is a way to get an extra set out of the XR18 just like you did here? Since there is only 6 is there a way to get 7 or 8 mixes using the hp output or a 4th stereo output
Unfortunately you cannot. I even emailed behringer
Hey mate - Are those AUX send stereo? Trying to work out if they are suitable for a stereo IEM mix each?
You need 2 outputs per stereo in ears on any mixer 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks so much for the reply. So conceivably could use. Mix L+R as stereo IEM mix 1. Aux 1+2 as stereo IEM mix 2. And headphone trick as stereo IEM mix 3?. Would only use for IEMs, not FOH mix required.
That’s correct 👍
hi man . thanks a lot again. but the thing is, i have MR 18 and when i select bus 3 for this it goes to xlr bus 3. i still want to do this in headphone output because i don't have xlr jack. so how to do it? and one more thing. i remember one of your video where you explained how to connect mixer via wife but still stay connected to wifi, i cand of cant find that video. a link would help alot. thank again man.
@@yaqubaxamee9146 hey man, so you should be able to set the headphone output to be bus 3. It will be bus 3 and headphone out. I was incorrect in this video that you get EXTRA outputs with the 18 series. But you can still assign the headphone out to bus 3 I believe.
And I think this is the video you were talking about: ADAPTER For Your DIGITAL MIXERS - Lightning/USB C to Ethernet
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@@ScottUhlMusic thanks a lot man
how to connect to mixer and stay connected with internet man?
Hiya Scott! That’s a great set of moves, thanks.
you may well be the guy to get my XR12 happening again? My internal wifi was intermittent but now it’s given up. I bought a cheap Archer router to replace it & am unable to get connected. The iPad Pro sees the router but router doesn’t pass signal on to the XR12 via the connected Ethernet cable on any of the 3 XR12 wifi in options. Any clues for me? Cheers pierre from Oz . .not the planet, the country.
You have it switched to Ethernet mode right? If it doesn’t work, it might be a router issue, but it could also be the Ethernet port having problems as well
@@ScottUhlMusic WoW Scott! Quick response thanks & yup, Ethernet has been the main choice but I did try the others as well pretty sure it's the Router but what to look for? It's an Archer AC750 aka C24
How would this work with the XR18 when it already has 6 aux/bus outs. Where would I get the out 7 & 8?
I did just update the thumbnail, description, and pinned a comment. This does NOT work with the XR18. My mistake!
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Thank you 🙏
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I'am shopkeeper, i need to talk for xr12, this one if possible to work in Studio?
Studio?
Will this work to add 2 more stage monitors?
I would be curious how the splitter would work with stage monitors… but you technically can, yes
@@ScottUhlMusic I think you'd use a 1/4" stereo beakout cable.
on the xr 18 how do you assign the bus to mix the headphone jack though???? i really need to do this but cant work it out
Are you trying to do what I did in this video? Or something different?
I can figure it out (by offline, Im not trying it yet), you can route aux 1-6 in menu INPUT-OUTPUT (I/O), then select route options for aux out..
In XR18, we didnt have the bus 7-8 , so you can try feed your aux by FX send/return options and change the output in monitor to bus 5/6...
example:
for floor monitor, I using aux 1 and 2 (for my singers), what I do here?
I feed my aux 1 with FX sends 1 and feed my aux 2 with FX sends 2, and I not open the FX return fader to main LR...
Aux 3-6 feeds by bus 3-6, and phones/monitor out feeds by bus 1/2...
@@jonathanarleys Wow Jonathan you are a genius!!! It took me a little while to get what you were trying to say, but it's a genius method bro!!!! The only disadvantage is that you lose two FX sends but each one of us will see if it's worth it.
This does not work with the xr18. That was my mistake. I even emailed Behringer and they confirmed that this trick doesn't work with it :( Sorry about that!
Man this would of saved my ass if i watched this video earlier :(
😂 that’s usually how it works haha
can i do it at aux?
Aux out already works as an IEM monitor send if you wanted to
@@ScottUhlMusic it works for separating two mono? coz i need 5 diff iem for my band mates on our XR12
No, you cannot separate from an aux channel. I suggest upgrading the xr16 or 18
@@ScottUhlMusic oh thanks
Regardless of what I try I cannot make it work
That’s so strange, I’ve done this on multiple devices. There has to be a setting that is switched on or off that doesn’t need to be. A hard reset for the entire mixer is an option if you really need to. You can save the scenes before doing that if you want to go that route
Thank you very much! This is really helpful!
Great video thanks. It's a really useful feature which I use all the time. A couple of watchouts. With the X-Air Edit app, setup, monitor, having selected Bus 3/4 as the source, check that the "MONO" button is DISABLED, otherwise you will get the same signal through both sides no matter what. Secondly, there are several kinds of splitter cable. The only one that works has a stereo output jack wired to 2 x mono input jacks with the tip from the stereo jack wired to the tip of one mono jack (Bus 3), and the ring (the middle bit of the stereo jack) wired to the tip of the other mono jack (Bus 4). If you have one, use a multimeter to get absolute confidence you got the correct type of lead, but obviously testing will confirm. To match the output levels of Bus 2 and 3 the headphone volume level needs to be around 2/3 of full volume.The leads are not balanced but when I need long cable runs I sometimes convert to balanced by using an ART dPDB passive DI box fed by a very short splitter cable. In this case the headphone volume level needs to be somewhat higher at 80-90% of full volume, or you could use an equivalent powered DI box and a lower output volume.
Nice, thanks for the input and adding to the knowledge for this video 👍 I appreciate it
This doesn’t work on the XR12. You’ll still receive main mix levels even seating pre fader. It kind of works but it’s not isolated.
I’ve done this multiple times on the 12, it does work. I would check to make sure something didn’t get changed by accident
I've been looking for this everywhere, you just solved my life! Thanks!
Glad to help!
Genius!! Thanks for that!
Hey great tutorial man. Thanks. One thing. Is it like each band member can connect to the mixer by their phone app and mix their IEM ? Or there is a separate app for band members ?
Yup. They can control their mix using an app and it just gives access to their mix. MX Q is one but I prefer mixing station instead.
I assume the headphone out is playing the same as main out to begin with.
When changing the headphone out as you do in this videos, - is it possible to link bus 3+4 and thereby get ONE seperate stereo mix, instead of two mono mixes?
Hmm, I believe you would get stereo yes. And I believe you can link them, but I’m not positive.
This is exactly what I need to get a true stereo feed for my keys
The video is great. But i am dealing with some issue. Apparently changing the fader in bus 3 after this process also changes the main gain level
Something is routed incorrectly. Follow the steps again and make sure they are exact
Thanks Scott. Very well presented. We have an X Air 12. Could you please do a video to show how to connect and ring out a floor monitor? We are a four piece band but we have a lot of problems with feedback from the monitor and find it difficult to overcome. We are musicians but not sound guys. Something nice and simple, one step at a time would be good. Thanks
I stopped using wedges and switched to in ear monitors because I kept getting a ton of feedback at certain venues we would play. I’m actually not good at mixing wedges at all, and I only use this gear with IEMs now 👍 definitely recommend it if you can! These are the cheap ones that I recommend: th-cam.com/video/dJL_zI2drRQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks Scott.
Im probably doing something wrong but ive followed the steps a few times and i cant get 2 busses from the headphone out. Ive set the monitor settings correctly i think. Seem to only get buss 5 on 5 and 6. Im using an XR16 with the Xair app for windows on my laptop. Any help much appreciated.
If you follow these steps, it should work, unless something I’m not sure about got switched in a global setting or a new firmware update or something. I’ve done this multiple times on my old 12 and my singer’s 16.
Great!
Would this work with a Midas MR12?
I believe so, but I haven’t done it on that one
Oh man, that's awesome, I assume that those buses where just something generic to fill some spaces. Thank you very much but now I can't stop thinking in buses 5/6 🤣
hey, it seams you can still do it in xr18 with some workarounds. you need to sacrifice 2 of the FX buses and use 2 of the aux sends as monitor. so monitor will output to the selected aux outputs and the FX to the phones output. am i right?
Oh interesting… I haven’t tried that but I guess that would work if you are able to route the fx to the headphone out. I’m not sure at all about that, but in theory it’s possible.
Hello guys, I'm using the x air but I noticed when i plug my earpiece to the headphone jack it's only one ear that works... Any clue to this please?
Try setting it to mono, or make sure you have a stereo plug for the headphones
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks sir
How can this be performed on the x32? I want repurpose the headphone output to its on mixbus for IEM.
You should be able to set the headphone out as one of the aux channels. It might not be an “extra” one like I go over here, but you can assign the bus/aux to be the headphone out
Hi Scott can you please tell the same steps using the mixing station app? Thanks
As you know the xair app is not working properly.
It should be very similar as this one 👍 might just be slightly different where the menus are
Scott, I have a couple of questions. I recently purchased a Behringer X Air 16. I have IEM's but I've been reluctant to really throw myself into using them. Being that I'm starting to play larger venues in the area that me and my family moved to this year I think that I should probably get used to using them. When you start your sound check I assume that you do both a FOH mix check and an IEM mix check?
Also do I need to route differently if I plan on using external effects?
@@gerimayawhyte154 yeah if I’m doing FOH sound, I check FOH sound first and then dial in my mix. But most of the time the settings are very similar so it’s usually the same.
I never use external fx with my mixer personally, I like the built in ones
@@ScottUhlMusic Oh okay thanks. As far as external effects I meant using an effects pedal chain on my guitar prior to going to the mixer. Someone told me that sending my guitar signal through my effects pedal chain first and then into the mixer wasn't ideal as far as tone was concerned. Thoughts on this?
Hey Scott, thanks for all your videos on IEM setups. In the past two weeks i learnt a lot!! I already have 2 wireless transmitters, 3 bodypacks and one cabled bodypack for my drummer. I'm looking for a mixer now, could i use the main outputs of these xr12 to connect one Anleon s3 in stereo?(to have two separate mono mixes)
Thanks! Yes, you could use the main outputs to connect to an IEM system. Obviously you wouldn’t have a way to run to FOH in that case, but if you just need it for an IEM splitter mixer, that would work 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the fast reply! and yes, it will be used only for IEMs.
Excellent tutorial. Even though I use the XR18 Air with 6 Buses, but always nice to have work arounds and knowledge of how these work.
Thank you so much Scott, I tried it and it works
Hey Scott! Thanks for your video, one question, does this AUX outputs come in a Mono or Stereo mix? Is it possible to have an in ear monitor mix in stereo?
Thanks! 🙌🏻
You can get it in stereo I believe using the TRS to 2 TS cable and run both of those into one IEM mix.
Thanks for your reply! :) I understand, then it would be 2 IEM sends, instead of 3 as shown in the video?
So can they other channels (1/4) be run into item bud out also?
I’m not sure what you are asking
You only show using the xlr channels in the IEM. I assume the other 1/4 channels inputs will still go through the iem channel made by the headphone output.
I've always been wondering this. thank you!
Is it possible to use main l/r as two mono monitors?
I was planning to use the xair as a monitor only hub and a signal splitter for FOH.
I don’t believe you get separate control over the L and R in the xr18.
@@ScottUhlMusic oh sorry, i meant the xr12 or 16
Hey, I have a question.
Would you know how to give each instrument members(Bass and keys) their own mix without affecting each other/others in-ears?
We're all actually sharing a transmitter with wireless receivers, and just curious on how to give each member full control of their own in-ears
Yup, I have a video guide on that here: th-cam.com/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gtN0d2TOSmHZ3f3u
Hi can you saw us how to do it on mixing station the hp out on x air12 as a bus 3 & 4 ...Thnk
Go to Setup and then Monitor 👍 should be very similar to this process
Hi agian do you have to connected to the mixer to this?
Amazing - thanks for this.
Dude, whatever question or idea I have, you already done a video about it. This is awesome, thank you very much \m/
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can we do that or something similar to use the main LR as mono out put for iem to ?
You can always use the LR into an IEM system 👍
okay but you can divide it to have 2 more iem individualy control in a bus configuration ? ( i don't know if a explain it clearly) i was looking to buy a xr 18 because we need 6 individual iem but there 2-3 mounth due to supply stil.l so i found a xr16 avalible right now and i want to be sur that i understand how to configure de xr16 since there is no video explaining how to use all the out put as iem send"
@@ScottUhlMusic
Do you know if this mixer has any stereo inputs?
You can always link together 1&2, 3&4, etc for stereo, yes 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the response. I’ll give that a try.
Oh thank you man
This is helpfull
Thank you thank you thank you
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much
Scott, I've recently been viewing your videos on wireless IEM. Thank you for them. I think I've landed on one but I hope to feed the left and right ins split out from the headphone outs on the Zoom L12 mixer. Would splitting the left and right signal out from a headphone out work or would the wireless transmitter then reamplify the already headphone amplified signal and create a problem? Don't know how to find the answer to this other than just buying one and trying it (which I don't have the luxury of doing). Thanks for your help!!
I think I’m a bit confused on your setup… can you explain your routing and what you are trying to do?
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi, Scott. The Zoom L-12 has five separate headphone outs. It looks like the inputs to the wireless IEM are left and right (for stereo). I just want to know if I can split the single headphone outs to inputs of the transmitter. I mean, I know I can physically do that but the headphone outs are powered for headphone use. Isn't the IEM as well, and wouldn't that create a problem with one headphone amp in front of another (in the transmitter)? I'm probably not explaining this well. Sorry.
Great video, thanks Scott. A quick question - in my main band we use QU16 desk and all have the mix software on our tablets for controlling our IEM mixes. I am looking at a solution for a 2-3 piece act I am in, and am wondering if all three band members can run the XR12 software at once and be connected to the mixer to allow them to tweak their IEM/BUS monitor mix themselves? Thanks.
Yup. Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/w-d-xo.html I go over it with the x32 but the idea is the same with basically any digital mixer 👍
Hi Scott. love your videos, they are life saving for a small band setup like us. Our band is adding a lead guitarist and taking us to a four piece, but my drummer uses headphones on the headphone out. Can I do this same process, but on one of the aux send outputs instead? the manual does state the aux output is TRS? That way the drummer can stay using the headphone out and I can share one of the aux outs as your video states. I have just purchased one of these XR12, but I haven't received it yet. cheers
Yeah you can get 4 outputs using what I went over in this video with the xr12 👍
Hi! I assume the same procedure can also applied to X32 Rack to get 2 more Monitor sends. Am I right? Can you please confirm that?
I haven’t done this on the x32. So I’m not sure.
Works like a charm with my new XR16! Thanks Scott! This video saved us $160.
Glad to help!
Great tip! How would act the Monitor Level knob in this scenario? Is needed to adjust the level to insert into Headphone amplifier or not?
The monitor knob still operates as a volume knob with this method 👍
I followed this exactly on my XR12 and I cannot seem to get a 3/4 mix. No idea what I’m missing
Hmm I’m not sure either. I made sure to do all the steps correctly. Possibly there is something that is switched on the app that I’m not familiar with. That’s the only thing I can think of
Fucking brilliant!
You added a great value to this cheap mixers. 🤯
Thanks 🤘
So incredibly helpful scott - Thankyou
Glad it was helpful!
you're awesome mate, thanks for all your work, priceless!
Thanks! Glad to help
Very useful, as always. You should charge for this stuff! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man! Glad to help 🤘
So I don't have my iPad in front of me to test, but I use an XR18 and I'm wondering how it would work for that because it only shows a maximum of 6 busses on the app. How would you get to what would would then be 7 and 8? I might just be missing something or rendering incorrectly.
@@ScottUhlMusic I just pulled it up in demo mode (XR18 is not with me) but it still only shows being able to route to busses as high as 6. I've attached a link to a video. Am I missing anything? th-cam.com/video/Ba7LgEyJKWY/w-d-xo.html
Okay, I emailed Behringer and this canNOT be done on the Behringer XR18. My mistake. It only works on the 12 and 16
Such a good video, thank you Scott for sharing !
Thank you 🙏
We tried the headphone out tip to run a stereo feed for my in ears but it didn’t give me a true stereo feed. Also sent volume on keys Sky high? Maybe it was the cable type? Used trs to xlr from headphone out on the xr to my stereo headphone monitor amp. Any suggestions?
You cannot get “true stereo” without using two outputs from the mixer and 2 inputs into an IEM mixer 👍
you need to stereo link bus 3 and 4 then select monitor source to bus3/4
Bingo - that was the secret setting I needed. Thanks.
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Thanks Scott! Outstanding as always.
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Good Video and thank you for sharing this..
Can I do the same to XR18?
There is nothing Bus left if I was using all 6 buses for monitor, It just got 6 aux, 2 main out, and stereo monitor or I can get more 2 buses so I can using 8 mono buses?
I just imagining of using monitor out as streaming audio but I just realized that monitor out are unbalanced stereo out, so I need to feed this monitor out same like main mix and then send it using DI boxes to reaching streaming PC (30 meters Balanced cable)...
I keep getting this comment, and I need to figure it out. I swear there was a way. I have the 12… my singer has the 16… and the 18 is sold out EVERYWHERE. But I going to pick one up from a friend who is selling it. I will do more research on it! Sorry anyone who was lead astray with my video. I know it does work on the 12 and 16 for sure
@@ScottUhlMusic I just look the software on my phone.. there is no extra buses (7-8) for monitor out...
So it clear to me, I need to routed aux 1-6 by another way and I can using this video method for monitor out..
Example:
in the Routing - Output tab, I can route aux 1-4 by their buses, aux 5-6 feed by FX 1-4 out (send to streaming PC), and monitor out feeds by 5/6 buses, using a short cables and feed my power amp for floor monitor... Hahaha..
Damn, this is how we was done on analog mixer.. 🤣
Edit: there is available "aux" labeled but I dont know it was set for another aux or what, maybe you can do experiment with it?
I see it avalable on XR12 mixing software (offline - android)..
Thanks for the research. It says this is an 18 in and 12 out mixer. I just emailed behringer actually. Hopefully I find out soon (and I’ll update the thumbnail and description).
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks back to you man, you helping me in the fisrt place... God Bless...
I just a early adoper on digital mixer, so what was I share is how I hack my church old analog mixer (its the Behringer Xenyx X2442USB)....
@@jonathanarleys Okay I heard back from Behringer... this trick does NOT work with the XR18. I'm sorry I got that wrong in this video. I updated the thumbnail, description, and pinned a comment as well correcting this.
Excellent! Thanks!!!
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Merci a toi ! 🙏🏽
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Great video, that helped a lot! Is there a way to assign a bus to the main out L or R in order to get 2 additional mono mixes? I am not using the mains, as it is used as a dedicated IEM unit. It would be nice to use the XLR outputs instead of the TRS. TIA.
I know you can get another stereo send for sure that way… but I’m not sure how you would get two separate mono sends from the main outputs. My guess is no, but you could plug it into one stereo one 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the fast reply. I've solved it by creating stereo tracks which I then panned hard left and hard right. But I think this is not the best solution, as every input will have to be a stereo input.
@@sanchopansen4431 Hey, have you managed to find a way to turn those mains into 2 mono mixes? Looking to get this mixer but would really like to use those 2 xlr outs instead of the TRS headphone output for 2 additional mixes.
@@RockLuca6 Yes, it is possible, but it takes some work, as you will have to have a hard panned L and R for each input channel. But I got it to work.
@@sanchopansen4431 Thanks for answering! Would it work if I sent those panned mixes to a behringer p2 and a senn g4 iem? Would I get a standard mono mix?
I have the XR18, unfortunately i only have 6 busses in the app... i could make it 7 or 8 this way but i do not seem to find, how to add more busses (like for subgrouping etc...) inside the app?
This should work under the routing option of the app. Let me know if you are able to get this to work. I had the 18 but I sold it for the x32. So I have the 12, my singer had the 16, and I have the 32 now so I’m unable to test it. I’ll update the info on the thumbnail and titles at least if you are not able to. I swear it was possible, but it might have to be adjusted under the routing section for the 18
I just had a look in the routing options and there is no option to make extra busses. And under Audio/midi - Monitor - there are only the 6 busses, AUX, USB17/18 and LR. So I don’t think it’s possible :(
@@SuperAndersj So weird... because it is supposed to be a 12 output option. I'm planning on selling my x12 and getting the x18, so hopefully soon. Everywhere is sold out of it right now. I'll keep you posted if I find anything out. Thanks for letting me know!
Using FX Sends and route the aux using this sends?
I heard back from Behringer and this trick does NOT work on the XR18. It only works on the 12 and the 16. Sorry about that, my mistake!